NFL Week 6

[Jas_lov]

Peyton Manning just threw a bomb to Marvin Harrison. Ravens are struggling to get a 1st down.

[Cringer]

Jets had 25 chances to get a TD and after getting 3 of them they finally got one that counted. :)

Goes Falcons and Lions!

[Neuqua]

Matt Ryan looks real good.

[Cringer]

I am becoming a big Matt Ryan fan, except when he beats the Packers. :(

[Alan T]

Finally getting to watch the Falcons on tv for once. Loving how Matt Ryan looks so far this game. I was skeptical about a rookie QB, but he is winning me over. The offensive line needs to get a little more cohesion though it seems. The Bears are looking like the Bears of old.. Pretty ok defense, but no offense.

[Northwood_DK]

It's fun watching the Dolphins today. Already got a long TD run and another from the wildcat formation.

[Cringer]

I see the Twins have the lead on the Tigers, 2-0.

[JonInMiddleGA]

So, who had Patrick Cobbs in their starting lineup today?
2 catches, 2 TD's, 133 yds

[QuikSand]

So, who had Patrick Cobbs in their starting lineup today?
2 catches, 2 TD's, 133 yds

Sparano is killing in his fantasy league.

[Matthean]

It's fun watching the Dolphins today. Already got a long TD run and another from the wildcat formation.

I simply don't see how it's so hard to defense a RB getting a direct snap.

[MJ4H]

Do you think that is what is difficult about the wildcat package to defend?

[RendeR]

I simply don't see how it's so hard to defense a RB getting a direct snap.


Its the fact that the offense has the same number of bodies to block as the defense that makes the difference, not the person being snapped to.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Hanson hits a 3 run shot to give the Tigers a 3-2 lead over the Twins.

[MJ4H]

NFL

[ISiddiqui]

I will say that on draft day I was hoping for Glenn Dorsey and then Brian Brohm with the 2nd pick as the starting QB. But I'm ecstatic with Ryan right now and am glad the Falcons didn't do what I wanted on draft day!!

The 1st round picks of Ryan and Baker (who has been key to solidifying the OLine) have been brilliant. In Dimitroff, they have a great GM. And I really like what Mike Smith is doing as HC.

It may be a few years before the team is a playoff contender, but it's a great foundation.

[DaddyTorgo]

Matt Ryan - making BC proud!

[Cringer]

Atlanta just does the direct snap to a RB for a nice gain. Very nice.

[ISiddiqui]

LOL, Falcons borrow the "Wildcat"

[Cringer]

Hanson hits a 3 run shot to give the Tigers a 3-2 lead over the Twins.

Nicely done. :)

[DaddyTorgo]

if the falcons had slightly better WR/OL (or just a little more cohesion) all these drives wouldn't be stalling out

[Radii]

Tampa is looking good, and Carolina is making too many mistakes. Tampa returned a blocked punt for a TD, Carolina fails to get a TD after 1st and goal, and Delhomme has two INT's. Other than a 48 yard pass to steve smith, there really isn't much positive for Carolina so far today. 17-3, if the offense could wake up it could still turn around quick, but bleh.

[Alan T]

LOL, Falcons borrow the "Wildcat"

Isn't the Wildcat formation just a variant of the old double wing that has been around longer than I have?

[Alan T]

if the falcons had slightly better WR/OL (or just a little more cohesion) all these drives wouldn't be stalling out

I don't think the WR have been the problem on too many plays. The OL is a bit weak and doesn't work well together on some plays. Mainly they just seem to have issues in the red zone today and that partially is the Bears are stopping the run for the most part fairly well.

[Cringer]

There sure seems to be a lot of Bears fans in Atlanta.

[MJ4H]

The Wildcat formation:

http://www.coachwyatt.com/wildcat.html

It was brought to the forefront recently in college by Gus Malzahn, OC for Arkansas in 2006 with Darren McFadden taking the snap and frequently Felix Jones in motion. David Lee joined the Arkansas staff and borrowed it and used it extensively for Arkansas over the course of the following season, and took it with him to Miami.

[DaddyTorgo]

I don't think the WR have been the problem on too many plays. The OL is a bit weak and doesn't work well together on some plays. Mainly they just seem to have issues in the red zone today and that partially is the Bears are stopping the run for the most part fairly well.

agreed that it has been the bears d stopping the run, but there have also been a couple missed chances where they might not have been quite on the same page.

there was also that shitty "ineligable receiver downfield" shit call (sure the call was right, i just think it's a pretty weak infraction most of the time) that negated a td

[Buccaneer]

Just caught the last parts of the latest Falcons scoring drive and I, too, am very impressed with Matt Ryan.

[Cringer]

agreed that it has been the bears d stopping the run, but there have also been a couple missed chances where they might not have been quite on the same page.

there was also that shitty "ineligable receiver downfield" shit call (sure the call was right, i just think it's a pretty weak infraction most of the time) that negated a td

very shitty call. The lineman was going for a block low and missed, he was off balance and basically just fell forward. He was laying on the ground by himself and somehow that gives Atlanta and advantage? Very weak penalty most of time IMO as well.

[cmp]

Horrible call in the Lions game. CJ was clearly down and refs called a fumble. Lions challenge and somehow it doesn't get overturned.

[cmp]

Well at least Detroit blocked the field goal.

[DeToxRox]

Horrible call in the Lions game. CJ was clearly down and refs called a fumble. Lions challenge and somehow it doesn't get overturned.

Not to mention Calvin got killed and is probably done for today.

But they just did block the Vikes FG to stay up 10-9.

[DaddyTorgo]

very shitty call. The lineman was going for a block low and missed, he was off balance and basically just fell forward. He was laying on the ground by himself and somehow that gives Atlanta and advantage? Very weak penalty most of time IMO as well.

was talking with my dad about this - we both feel it needs to be more of a judgment call, like offsides is in soccer now, where if the guy isn't giving an advantage to the play and isn't involved then it's not called

[SirFozzie]

Huge return on the kickoff for the Falcons. That'll just about do it if they get a FG

[DeToxRox]

on NFL.com it just showed the Dolphins with the ball ..

2nd and 47
on OWN 12

Is that real?

[SirFozzie]

wow. What a HORRIBLE FG kick

[Jas_lov]

The Falcons and Lions better not blow this. It would be a great start to the day if they could both hold on. How do you only score 9 points against the Lions at home?

[DeToxRox]

The Falcons and Lions better not blow this. It would be a great start to the day if they could both hold on. How do you only score 9 points against the Lions at home?

You need to be more worried about your Packers winning then other teams losing.

[cmp]

Now a phantom pass interference call on Detroit. Horrible.

[Lathum]

Watching this Bengals final drive has been beyond painfull. I weep for their fans.

[SirFozzie]

:28 to play in the Falcons game, ball inside the Falcons 20

[GrantDawg]

Falcons about to lose a heart breaker. Just needed a gimme FG to put it away, and Automatic Elam missed it. Now the Bears are marching down the field.

[GrantDawg]

:18 3rd and 10

[GrantDawg]

And there it is. MF.

[Jas_lov]

I knew it. I knew they'd blow it like they always do. Both of them.

[SirFozzie]

That's gonna be reviewed

[Cringer]

Crap. That kind of ruins my day. A Packer loss will really kill it but this doesn't help.

[DaddyTorgo]

ugh - poor falcons

[Alan T]

I knew it. I knew they'd blow it like they always do. Both of them.

Guess we can only beat up the bad teams in the NFC North like the Packers.

[ISiddiqui]

I knew it. I knew they'd blow it like they always do. Both of them.

And Elam the goat... sucks :(.

[DeToxRox]

Jas - Your Packers should, you know, win some games before you worry about how other teams do.

[GrantDawg]

And Elam the goat... sucks :(.


Well, him and Houston. What the heck was he thinking?

[Rizon]

And the Miami Dolphins are BACK!!!!!
Simply some of the worst DBs in football.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Now a phantom pass interference call on Detroit. Horrible.

On 2nd and 20, no less. A really, really bad call. The Lions will lose this game, not because of this call - though it helped - but because they couldn't do anything on offense.

[DeToxRox]

SCHAUB!!!

[Cringer]

Vikings win at the end too. What a crappy day as a Packer fan. Packers don't win they are fading back in a bad losing streak.

Crossing my fingers never works. argh!

[Jas_lov]

There's still a chance!

[GrantDawg]

OMG!!!! THE GET A FG CHANCE!!!!!

[Alan T]

Elam might have a chance to redeem himself here

[Jas_lov]

Redeem yourself, Elam!

[Rizon]

lololololol bears ...

[GrantDawg]

Unfreakin believable. I'm dieing.

[DeToxRox]

Wow. Richie Incognito wins idiot of the week for week 6. He just couldn't shut up, yelling at the ref and such and he was flagged 15 years for it, pushing the Rams from a 35 yard FG to a 50 yard FG.

[GrantDawg]

How does Micheal Jenkins, who hasn't been able to catch a cold, suddenly make that catch?

[Buccaneer]

Wow, that was one of the best cluch pass (and catch) I've seen in a long time.

[Cringer]

Elam could make my day turn around when I was down. What a crazy ending here.

[Rizon]

LMAO ... DA BEARS

[GrantDawg]

YES!!!!!!!!!!!

[Alan T]

!!!!!

[SirFozzie]

HOLEEE SHIT GOOD!

[Jas_lov]

It's good! Falcons win! They have turned the corner as a franchise.

[GrantDawg]

I want Matt Ryan to have my babies.

[Cringer]

YES!! What a fantastic ending!

[Alan T]

Good.. my day has gotten better now.. Now I won't have to go and slash Jas_lov's tires.

[DaddyTorgo]

WOW!

what a turnaround in the ATL game!!

Ryan hits a deep-out and Jenkins steps out of bounds with 1 second left. Elam hits 48-yd FG and Falcons win!

[ISiddiqui]

OMG!!! OMG!!!

I want to have Matt Ryan's babies!!

Elam, you are forgiven!

[Buccaneer]

You should've heard our living room my wife, son and I screaming in delight about Ryan and the Falcons. I think we're all Falcons fans now.

[SirFozzie]

I want Matt Ryan to have my babies.

Welcome to the way the way I felt about Matty Ice at BC.

[Coffee Warlord]

Un fucking believable.

[ISiddiqui]

You should've heard our living room my wife, son and I screaming in delight about Ryan and the Falcons. I think we're all Falcons fans now.

My neighbors downstairs are going to hate me for the noise I made at the end of that game.

[Izulde]

Picking up Jason Elam as a bye week cover for Stephen G. at K may have been one of the smartest moves I've made this fantasy football season. :D

I'm really enjoying watching the Saints and Falcons this year.

Bummed that the Dolphins lost by a stinking point to the Texans, though. :(

[GrantDawg]

I just watched that last play setting up the FG over and over again. What is amazing to me is this rookie QB, only starting his 6th NFL game, was able to set up the defense by looking off the safeties. He was on the opposite side of the field the whole play, then just as the rush got to him he turned and threw an amazing pass cross his body. OMG.

[Alan T]

Cowboys are off to a good start.

[Recoil]

4-2 going into the bye week. Who would've thunk it? My mind: blown.

[Thomkal]

heh not so bad for a QB some people thought the Falcons shouldn't draft huh? Nice to see the good stories out of Atlanta, and a win for the Rams and Houston after their horrible seasons.

[GrantDawg]

Great start to the game for the Cards. Kickoff return for a TD.

[Lathum]

I knew it. I knew they'd blow it like they always do. Both of them.

It's good! Falcons win! They have turned the corner as a franchise.

lol

[GrantDawg]

4-2 going into the bye week. Who would've thunk it? My mind: blown.


Most expert didn't have them winning half that number.

[Thomkal]

yes beloved Cards, way to start the game!

[SirFozzie]

The NFL.. it's a HELL of a drug.

[Buccaneer]

I just watched that last play setting up the FG over and over again. What is amazing to me is this rookie QB, only starting his 6th NFL game, was able to set up the defense by looking off the safeties. He was on the opposite side of the field the whole play, then just as the rush got to him he turned and threw an amazing pass cross his body. OMG.

You want me to say it? :)

[GrantDawg]

heh not so bad for a QB some people thought the Falcons shouldn't draft huh? Nice to see the good stories out of Atlanta, and a win for the Rams and Houston after their horrible seasons.


I admitted I was wrong a couple of weeks ago, and I can't tell you how happy to be wrong I am. We may not win another game this season, but you have to feel good where this team is heading.

[Thomkal]

yeah I know you did Grant, but just nice to hear it again. :) I'm happy for the Falcons faithful, they surely deserve some hope for the future

[ISiddiqui]

Ryan was an awesome pick for the club. I'm glad they didn't do the Dorsey/Brohm first two picks I wanted them to. Ryan/Baker was genius.

[jeff061]

I just watched that last play setting up the FG over and over again. What is amazing to me is this rookie QB, only starting his 6th NFL game, was able to set up the defense by looking off the safeties. He was on the opposite side of the field the whole play, then just as the rush got to him he turned and threw an amazing pass cross his body. OMG.

He looked as good and confident as any vet in the league the entire game. Very impressive.

[DaddyTorgo]

wow - that's a hell of a shitty situation in the cards game there - that was a fumble recovered by the cardinals but it was blown dead or whatever. absolutely shit

[airulf]

If you are quick, you can read this headline on http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/

Orton's late TD clinches Bears' win over Falcons

I guess you can say that was a little premature :)

[GrantDawg]

Ryan was an awesome pick for the club. I'm glad they didn't do the Dorsey/Brohm first two picks I wanted them to. Ryan/Baker was genius.


Not to mention, they also have the rookie Lofton starting in the middle, and every pick except the two on IR playing regularly. Pretty good drafting done all around.

[DaddyTorgo]

lol yeah

[Thomkal]

yep DT, refs blow another clear call-there better be some shake-ups in the umpiring ranks this offseason.

[Thomkal]

and it comes back to haunt the Cards when Warner can't handle the snap and they lose the ball

[Alan T]

No one in the Cowboys vs Cards game wants to hold on to the ball.

[Alan T]

That seems like 3 fumbles in the past 5 plays or something.

[Thomkal]

OMG Romo is hit from behind on the next play and fumbles it back to the Cards!

[GrantDawg]

and it comes back to haunt the Cards when Warner can't handle the snap and they lose the ball


But just give Romo a sec. He'll give it back.

[SirFozzie]

And one play later, Romo fumbles it back

[Thomkal]

crazy game so far

[DaddyTorgo]

wow...Tony Romo...I'm sorry - he's just not that good. He'll be lucky to win anything in his career.

[Thomkal]

man Romo is looking awful today

[DaddyTorgo]

He wasn't in the act of throwing, he pulled the throw down and fumbled the ball...give me a break

[Thomkal]

for which I'm happy :)

[DaddyTorgo]

if he's tucking it shouldn't it be a sack and a safety?

[Thomkal]

and another blown call

[DaddyTorgo]

blah - i still hate that call. it's stupid. hated it when it benefitted the pats, hate it still. it's stupid that there's all these little nuances for the QB like that

[Thomkal]

and those last two plays shows why its tough to be a Cards fan. Man they were dominating

[Thomkal]

well at least they missed the FG

[mauchow]

This is the highest level of parity I've seen in the NFL in a long time.

[Eaglesfan27]

That was a disgusting turn of events.

[Passacaglia]

I can't believe that happened.

[Thomkal]

what the heck is happening in the SF game? seems like they just scored a bunch of points very quickly

[EagleFan]

4 Sale: One NFL head coach. One owner, low mileage. Needs new shocks (trouble adjusting to changes in the road). Great off the line but redlines mid trip. Gas guzzler.

[Jas_lov]

And the Packers put the game away with a long time consuming drive. The 3 relevant teams in the NFC North are now all tied at the top of the division with 3-3 records. It's a good thing Indy found their stride the week before they play the Packers' banged up defense.

[Suburban Rhythm]

Any thoughts what TO will have to say post game, having touched the ball 5 times today (with 1 drive to go)?

[Buccaneer]

My wife just said if Kurt can beat the hated Cowboys, that will make her season. I agreed with her.

[Eaglesfan27]

I hope Kurt pulls it off, too. Eagles keep their season alive with a huge comeback against the 49ers.

[Passacaglia]

Oh my!!!

[Jas_lov]

The Cowboys will have about a minute to go about 35 yards for a FG attempt. Hopefully the Arizona defense doesn't continuously continue to not tackle Marion Barber.

[Eaglesfan27]

57 yard FG attempt for Dallas?

[sabotai]

52 now. I don't know why the clock wasn't stopped and Arizona charged a timeout for injury.

[Lathum]

I am so confused about what is happening in the cowboys game right now

[Galaxy]

Talk about confusion.

[Neuqua]

So are the refs..

[Jas_lov]

Now they decide to review this after standing around for 10 minutes.

[Cringer]

And now they will review it.....lol.

[Lathum]

What a farce, now they are reviewing something

[ISiddiqui]

The end of this game is so fucked up... jeez, how long will it be until the ball is snapped?!

[sabotai]

I still don't know why this isn't an automatic injury time out. Is it because he wasn't injured enough to keep him on the ground?

[Jas_lov]

LOL! Timeout before the blocked FG. Now watch him make this.

[larrymcg421]

Hahahahahaha!

I love it every time that stupid tactic backfires.

[Lathum]

Jesus, and the Cards take a timeout

[GrantDawg]

LOL! Timeout before the blocked FG. Now watch him make this.


I hope so. I was hoping the Cards would win, but I hate that stupid crap.

[mckerney]

Awesome timeout.

[sabotai]

Looks like this could be the death of that tactic.

[TazFTW]

It's gooooooooood! Ninja that!

[Neuqua]

You're kidding me.

[Eaglesfan27]

Looks like this could be the death of that tactic.

I sure hope so.

[Lathum]

Brutal, just brutal.

And could Romo look like anymore of a little bitch pouting on the bench while they tie the game up.

[Cringer]

Wacky ending. It's a day of them I guess.

[jeff061]

Eh, whistle was blowing before snap. Who knows how some players reacted to that. Hate it when people try to say the outcome would have been the same if no TO was called. Not to say I don't think "icing the kicker" is silly.

[Tigercat]

I still don't know why this isn't an automatic injury time out. Is it because he wasn't injured enough to keep him on the ground?

Just one of those things. Since the player could walk on his own power, and the refs were too busy following the hurry-up, it was absolutely the right call, nothing else the refs could do. The Cardinals, if anyone, are at fault for not paying enough attention and bringing the situation to the refs attention.

[Arles]

Only the Cardinals can steal defeat from the jaws of victory

[GrantDawg]

Looks like this could be the death of that tactic.


I sure as heck hope so. I wish the owners of teams with coaches that lose/almost lose games with this stupid crap would fine the coaches.

[bhlloy]

It's been a pretty clear rule at any level of football I have seen that you don't get charged with an injury timeout if the player doesn't stay on the ground. If he's hurt enough to not get off the field, he should hit the deck.

And Folk clearly heard the whistle and aborted the kick. Doesn't make the "ice the kicker" timeout any better of a tactic, but this isn't the situation we've all been waiting for.

[MizzouRah]

F*ing Cardinals!

damn you!!! damn you!! damn you!!!

You had this game!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Lathum]

Eh, whistle was blowing before snap. Who knows how some players reacted to that. Hate it when people try to say the outcome would have been the same if no TO was called. Not to say I don't think "icing the kicker" is silly.

I agree with all of this except the "icing the kicker" concept.

I think there is some validity to icing the kicker but I hate when they call the TO right as they snap it. Thats crap IMO

[Suburban Rhythm]

All I know is I am up about 13 points in fantasy...and the last player remaining on either roster is MBIII. I don't need him getting another 70 yd TD right now!

[DaddyTorgo]

ugh - damnit what happened to the cards while i was eating my quesadillas?

[Eaglesfan27]

YES!!

[Jas_lov]

Blocked kick and a TD! Cardinals win!

[Lathum]

Romo looked really bad on that opeining drive.


GAME OVER!!!!!

[Galaxy]

What a wacky and wild game. Go Cardinals!

[bhlloy]

hahahahahaha

McBriar took way too long to kick that. Can't do that backed up against your own goal line.

[Cringer]

Nice frickin' way to win, that rocks.

[DaddyTorgo]

OH FUCK THAT'S AN AWESOME ENDING!!!


CARDINALS WIN!!

[MizzouRah]

Whew... nice blocked punt!!!!!

[jeff061]

Cardinals d-line goes super human in OT.

[M GO BLUE!!!]

I guess you win on a blocked kick after all!

How 'bout them Cowboys! LOL

[larrymcg421]

Similar situation as the Michigan-Appalachian State game. Blocker takes the outside man instead of the inside man. This is basic stuff. No reason an NFL team should be losing a game because of it.

[Galaxy]

Will the NFL make a new rule now in regards to the end of the regular game?

[Lathum]

And Redskin, Eagle, and Giants fan around the world reunite for a fleeting moment and rejoice!!

[Buccaneer]

Aw shit, I can't believe I missed that. I went upstairs to tell me wife about the fumble and she was celebrating.

[Buccaneer]

And Redskin, Eagle, and Giants fan around the world reunite for a fleeting moment and rejoice!!

And anti-Cowboys fans.

[Tigercat]

Just saw Dan Orlovsky's safety where he didn't know where he was in the endzone. He wasn't even close to staying out of the back end, funny play. Sadly for lion's fans, symbolic of the franchise right now.

[Suburban Rhythm]

Aw shit, I can't believe I missed that. I went upstairs to tell me wife about the fumble and she was celebrating.

This typo made me LOL....Bucc even types like a pirate! :p

[Cringer]

And anti-Cowboys fans.

Exactly. My 9 year old daughter loved it more then me. Not sure how she became such a Cowboy hater but she has outdone me in that way more then I could have imagined.

[Lathum]

Just saw Dan Orlovsky's safety where he didn't know where he was in the endzone. He wasn't even close to staying out of the back end, funny play. Sadly for lion's fans, symbolic of the franchise right now.

I saw that too then had to explain to my mother how yes, that was a stupid play, and no, I am not at all surprised.

[Thomkal]

it figures a game as wacky as the Cards/Dallas was would end on a blocked punt in the endzone for a TD. Luckily this time it went for the Cards instead of against them. They never should have been in OT to begin with-I mean they blocked the freaking FG if the coach doesn't call timeout!

As ugly a game as it was for my beloved Cards, its a pretty big one for them too, beating the "best" team in the NFC. Gives them a 2 game lead in the division too

[Buccaneer]

Exactly. My 9 year old daughter loved it more then me. Not sure how she became such a Cowboy hater but she has outdone me in that way more then I could have imagined.

I wish my 11 yr old son was the same way. Got to teach that kid some manners. :)

Seriously, I don't think I have ever known a kid that is so obsessed with football. He watched 10 hours (off and on) of college football, then all day today including his beloved pregame (and postgame) shows. He can tell you the scores of all Top 25 game yesterday. It is only a bonus for him if the Trojans win. And today was interesting, only 6-6 on his picks, esp. seeing my wife celebrating and my son collapsed on the floor stunned at the ending of the Zona game.

[Lathum]

As ugly a game as it was for my beloved Cards, its a pretty big one for them too, beating the "best" team in the NFC. Gives them a 2 game lead in the division too

I realize you put it in quotes, but the Giants are by far the best team in the NFC.

[EagleFan]

Just saw Dan Orlovsky's safety where he didn't know where he was in the endzone. He wasn't even close to staying out of the back end, funny play. Sadly for lion's fans, symbolic of the franchise right now.

I have to say that was one of the funniest things I have seen. It's not like he just stepped out or somethng, he was well over the line and kept rolling out withou even noticing. Even the defender looked like he had to do a double take like "do I still tackle his ass or what?".

[Bad-example]

Rough loss for the 49ers. That was a winnable game but they just imploded at the end.

[DaddyTorgo]

eh...yeah...i'm officially done thinking that this Pats team can potentially even possibly defend the title - the secondary is a POS. Deltha O'Neil blows. Unless something drastic changes, they're not defending.

[Cringer]

I wish my 11 yr old son was the same way. Got to teach that kid some manners. :)

Seriously, I don't think I have ever known a kid that is so obsessed with football. He watched 10 hours (off and on) of college football, then all day today including his beloved pregame (and postgame) shows. He can tell you the scores of all Top 25 game yesterday. It is only a bonus for him if the Trojans win. And today was interesting, only 6-6 on his picks, esp. seeing my wife celebrating and my son collapsed on the floor stunned at the ending of the Zona game.
Haha, that is great. My daughter isn't a football nut but she will watch some with me on Sunday and root for or against the teams she wants. If it is two teams she isn't sure about she always asks which team "we" want to win.

[DaddyTorgo]

god deltha o'neil - you fucking suck. go home.

[Lathum]

eh...yeah...i'm officially done thinking that this Pats team can potentially even possibly defend the title - the secondary is a POS. Deltha O'Neil blows. Unless something drastic changes, they're not defending.

defend the title??

I guess you are talking about AFC champions. But you should really put that, because when you say "title" that suggests they won something meaningfull.

[DaddyTorgo]

defend the title??

I guess you are talking about AFC champions. But you should really put that, because when you say "title" that suggests they won something meaningfull.

:rant:


whatever.

[Lathum]

:rant:


whatever.

not my problem buddy, get your facts straight. ;)

[Thomkal]

I realize you put it in quotes, but the Giants are by far the best team in the NFC.

That's why it was in quotes. Because so many analysts say the Cowboys are the best team in the NFC. I agree with you that its the Giants.

[DaddyTorgo]

not my problem buddy, get your facts straight. ;)

:nono:

[stevew]

This has been a crazy fuckin week.

Baltimore's D gets steamrollled
The Falcons snatch victory from the jaws of defeat from the jaws of Victory

It's like a falcon turducken.

I loved the ninja timeout backfiring. But I always like to see the cowboys lose.

I wonder if the Bears will claim they got jobbed by the timekeeper at the end? There looked like a bit of a delay to it starting, but I didn't watch it that closely.

I'm going to break 100 points and lose in Fantasy this week....Fuckin steve Breaston and Thomas Jones killed me this week.

[Passacaglia]

Nice goal line stand by the Chargers.

[Lathum]

This Pats secondary is ugly.

[bhlloy]

This Pats secondary is ugly.

That is what happens when you sign Delta "8 interceptions makes lazy analysts think I'm really good, but I got beat deep 40 times during the same season" O'Neal.

That guy is absolute garbage. I'm amazed NFL GM's/coaches that actually make a living breaking down game film are still willing to give him a job. Bring back Troy Brown before signing that piece of trash.

[airulf]

This Pats team is ugly.


Fixed it for you

[Thomkal]

So I'd like to point out to the analysts who claimed that the Pats, unlike the Cardinals, would better adjust to staying on the coast an extra week thanks to their coach and veteran team that they were wrong. :)

[M GO BLUE!!!]

Why isn't Daunte Culpepper tossing it deep to Randy Moss in practice today?

[gstelmack]

Well, I felt like New England's defense needed to return to the 15ppg form of old for them to have a shot this season. So much for this season. They'll still get some wins over the weak teams, as they aren't a bad team, but I don't see them making noise in the playoffs this year.

Anybody know where Laurence Maroney went? I haven't seen him all season. Not sure who that is wearing his jersey on the field...

[Passacaglia]

Well, I felt like New England's defense needed to return to the 15ppg form of old for them to have a shot this season. So much for this season. They'll still get some wins over the weak teams, as they aren't a bad team, but I don't see them making noise in the playoffs this year.

Anybody know where Laurence Maroney went? I haven't seen him all season. Not sure who that is wearing his jersey on the field...

I think he missed the game, so whoever you were looking at was probably Kevin Faulk or Sammy Morris.

[Alan T]

Well, I felt like New England's defense needed to return to the 15ppg form of old for them to have a shot this season. So much for this season. They'll still get some wins over the weak teams, as they aren't a bad team, but I don't see them making noise in the playoffs this year.

Anybody know where Laurence Maroney went? I haven't seen him all season. Not sure who that is wearing his jersey on the field...

His game left when Brady was injured. Teams are not as afraid of the pass now and can gear up their defenses differently. Last year, there were just way too many options for defenses to guard against them all well.

[Jas_lov]

ESPN - Source: Romo to miss four weeks with broken pinkie - NFL (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3640890)

BREAKING NEWS: Tony Romo to miss 4 weeks with a broken pinkie according to Michael Smith.

[JeeberD]

Fuckfuckfuckfuckfuck

[DaddyTorgo]

That is what happens when you sign Delta "8 interceptions makes lazy analysts think I'm really good, but I got beat deep 40 times during the same season" O'Neal.

That guy is absolute garbage. I'm amazed NFL GM's/coaches that actually make a living breaking down game film are still willing to give him a job. Bring back Troy Brown before signing that piece of trash.

+1

[DaddyTorgo]

Well, I felt like New England's defense needed to return to the 15ppg form of old for them to have a shot this season. So much for this season. They'll still get some wins over the weak teams, as they aren't a bad team, but I don't see them making noise in the playoffs this year.

Anybody know where Laurence Maroney went? I haven't seen him all season. Not sure who that is wearing his jersey on the field...

There are PIECES of this Pats team that are very strong. Unfortunately not enough pieces.

Maroney - I don't think he will ever be the player that he should be. Seems to be too fragile (shoulder injury again? really?) and that likely will preclude him ever learning that he shouldn't dance so much behind the line (although to his credit he has vastly improved this).

O-line - Needs help. Nuff said. Caught a couple career-years from some guys, and Light is good, but the rest is pretty meh.

There's something amiss on the d-line -- they seem not to be as fearsome (and you can't say wilfork/warren/seymour are OLD - seymour is the OLDEST and he's not really getting up there too much). Something's different with them though, or maybe again it is because of the problems with the linebackers not commanding as many blockers partially.

The linebackers - Adalius Thomas + Jerod Mayo are solid. Mayo is a rook though, and can't shoulder the load alone. Bruschi+Vrabel - love ya guys, but it's time to be situational players. Crable has contributed a bit and may develop into a strong player. I might argue that BB isn't using Thomas to the full extent of his freakish athletic abilities though.

The secondary - well they've got 2 young players (Meriweather+Wheatley). Jury is still out on those guys. And Ellis Hobbs, who is a stud of a return man and should be like the #4 corner. But other than that, it's a load of shit (yes this means you Rodney Harrison - sorry bucko, like Bruschi+Vrabel it's time to be a situational guy). Deltha O'Neil is probably no better than my 14 year old brother would be.

I suspect that BB was able to get by with subpar corners for a couple years as people were confused by the rest of his defenses, but now with the ageing of the LB-corps and the lack of pressure they're bringing (big part of it), the subpar corners are getting routinely exposed.

Obviously the team misses Brady. And maybe with him and the ability to put up 38ppg they would be cakewalking through the season, I don't know. But they've got some serious issues, that's for sure.

[Butter]

I'll be the first one to admit I thought Matt Ryan would be a horrible bust as an NFL QB.

And he still might be. But what a hell of a play with 6 seconds left to make that throw and for Jenkins to make that catch in 5 seconds to give your team a chance. I hope the Falcons win the NFC South. That division is so damn wacky anyway, who knows what will happen from week to week.

[Lathum]

Eli would throw some tape on that shit and not miss a beat, or cut it off Ronnie Lott style

[Lathum]

Fuckfuckfuckfuckfuck

awesome news, you should be happy Jeebs, he has looked like dogshit, granted that may be because the pinkie.

Romo= Overrated

[MizzouRah]

GO RAMS!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHA

[M GO BLUE!!!]

I am hoping that the time out called by Wisenhut continues to haunt the Cowboys... There is a chance that at the end of the regular season Dallas will be tied for a wild card and a tie breaker for points for/against comes into play. Thanks to the time out that gave such euphoria for Cowboys fans, Dallas is now -3 more points in differential. :)

[miami_fan]

ESPN - Source: Romo to miss four weeks with broken pinkie - NFL (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3640890)

BREAKING NEWS: Tony Romo to miss 4 weeks with a broken pinkie according to Michael Smith.

And Felix Jones is out 2-4 weeks with a hammy. Bigger deal IMO.

[Lathum]

And Felix Jones is out 2-4 weeks with a hammy. Bigger deal IMO.

lets not get crazy here.

[larrymcg421]

awesome news, you should be happy Jeebs, he has looked like dogshit, granted that may be because the pinkie.

Romo= Overrated

In what universe has Romo looked like dogshit? 103.0 QB rating, 8.4 YPA, almost a 3:1 TD:INT ratio. I don't understand how anyone could objectively make that claim and still pretend to be living in reality.

[Lathum]

In what universe has Romo looked like dogshit? 103.0 QB rating, 8.4 YPA, almost a 3:1 TD:INT ratio. I don't understand how anyone could objectively make that claim and still pretend to be living in reality.

easy.

I'm not objective.

[Alan T]

easy.

I'm not objective.


:D

[Lathum]

Allrighty

Tony Kornhole aside I am looking forward to a great night!!

[Alan T]

Allrighty

Tony Kornhole aside I am looking forward to a great night!!

Your boys better not dissapoint me. I need Jamal Lewis to get like 300 yards rushing for my fantasy team, but score 0 TD and I need the Browns to remain scoreless for my Hi/Low Picks. That is not asking too much I don't think.

[Lathum]

Your boys better not dissapoint me. I need Jamal Lewis to get like 300 yards rushing for my fantasy team, but score 0 TD and I need the Browns to remain scoreless for my Hi/Low Picks. That is not asking too much I don't think.

I just put in the call...

[Lathum]

why is Eli growing a motorcycle cop mustache.

and throwing ints

[sabotai]

In what universe has Romo looked like dogshit? 103.0 QB rating, 8.4 YPA, almost a 3:1 TD:INT ratio. I don't understand how anyone could objectively make that claim and still pretend to be living in reality.

Romo is one of those players that will play at a high level 90% of the time. When things keep going good, he'll keep playing good. It's those occasional times that when things start to go bad, it seems like he completely falls apart.

[Logan]

easy.

I'm not objective.

Wow, I haven't literally LOLed in awhile.

[JediKooter]

Finally the Chargers looked good on all sides of the ball. I have to say, the Patriots without Tom Brady and his ability to get rid of the ball quickly, is killing them right now.

Cassel has got to learn to not hold on to the ball so long, which made it kind of hard to tell if it was the Pats' O-line that was giving up the sacks or the fact that the quarterback held onto the ball too long. Nice to see Randy Moss hasn't forgotten how to quit on his team when his team is down.

Another good sign for the Chargers, they didn't give up much yardage on the run until they started putting in their 2nd and 3rd stringers late in the game. I would like to have seen how the Chargers would have played if Brady was not hurt. Would have been a good test to see if they really are superbowl contenders.

3-3, not the start I expected of the Chargers, more like 5-1 was my prediction. With that one loss being to the Brady version of the Patriots. Still lots of football left in the season and at this point, it could go either way for the Chargers. They keep playing like they did in Miami, they could finish 8-8 or worse, play like they did last night and they could finish 13-3 or 12-4.

All I can say is, go Patriots,beat Denver next week, please!!

[sabotai]

Browns have done an excellent job picking up the blitz tonight. Anderson has had time on every throw.

[Rizon]

NFC East ... what?

[Lathum]

NFC East ... what?

please.

just stop embarresing yourself ;)

[Lathum]

Great end to a nice drive with the TD to Plex, it reminded me of the superbowl. Except in the superbowl Plex was way more open

[Buccaneer]

I was watching Cleveland's latest drive and they are looking good - except for the stupid penalties. Anderson is getting time and checking off well.

[Lathum]

bad Eli

[mauchow]

Jeez, Eli reverts back to his old self and makes a silly throw. Throws off his back foot completely and the Browns make a pick-six. . . Pending review.

[Buccaneer]

Wow.

[larrymcg421]

WTF are these people talking about? This two point conversion consensus drives me crazy.

There's only 8 minutes left in the game. What's the drawback of going for two here? The Giants will score two TD's and two FG's? Whatever.

[Lathum]

good thing the Giants have gone to the running game at this stage

[larrymcg421]

Don't hurry up or anything, Giants.

[Buccaneer]

It was so cool seeing the NFC East getting beat this weekend (except Eagles). Whodathink that the Titans would be the last unbeaten team.

[ISiddiqui]

:eek:

Holy crap! The Browns didn't just beat down the Giants?!!

[Lathum]

It was so cool seeing the NFC East getting beat this weekend (except Eagles). Whodathink that the Titans would be the last unbeaten team.

Not I but I still think the Giants are the best team in football.

Everyone is going to lose games during the season, a road loss to a non conference opponent is about as good a loss you can have.

[Cringer]

Allrighty

Tony Kornhole aside I am looking forward to a great night!!

:popcorn:

[Buccaneer]

Not I but I still think the Giants are the best team in football.


Still not objective I see. :)

[Lathum]

Still not objective I see. :)

none at all.

But in all seriousness if you had told me the Giants would open the season 4-1 I would be elated, especialy after Osi went down.

Eli played like crap but the defense really let us down. The Browns had third and short all day and Anderson had all day to throw the ball. The pass rush wasnt there and thats the Giants bread and butter.

Everyone has warts in the NFL and if the Giants arent the best team then who is?

[Cringer]

none at all.

But in all seriousness if you had told me the Giants would open the season 4-1 I would be elated, especialy after Osi went down.

Eli played like crap but the defense really let us down. The Browns had third and short all day and Anderson had all day to throw the ball. The pass rush wasnt there and thats the Giants bread and butter.

Everyone has warts in the NFL and if the Giants arent the best team then who is?

The Titans, who are undefeated still. Maybe the Lions though.

[Galaril]

The Titans, who are undefeated still. Maybe the Lions though.


Yeah, as a 30 year Oliers/Titans fan being 5-0 is awesome but like being #1 in the NCAA rankings after after week 5. Not too important. But what is peaking my interest is Titans got the Chiefs this weekend and The Colts at HOME the week after. So good chance we can go 7-0 and be up on the Colts and Fags (I mean Jags) by three games and it would really be 4 games since we would be in the drivers seat at 3-0 in division and 6-0 in confernce with 9 games reamining. Realistically looking at our remaining schedule I think 12-4 is a good target for the Titans which "should" give them one of the two top seeds in the AFC as the AFC South title. A lot of ifs here of course. Still with it looking like among the Ravens,Pats, Chargers,Jags only 1 playoff team comes out (likely the Chargers) or maybe none from that group we got a good shot.

[Lathum]

Colts are playing really good right now.

I just dont know if the titans offense is good enough to keep them in certain games.

[Galaril]

Colts are playing really good right now.

I just dont know if the titans offense is good enough to keep them in certain games.

That is what I a wondering too they looked awefully good against the Ravens. On the otherside I am wondering if the Colts offense can stand up to the Titans "D". the Ravens and Titans beat the living shit out each other last week and I really think that hurt the Ravens this week. The Colts have always been a finesse team especially on the Offensive side of the ball and with out Addai the Titans will be going after Manning big time. I am really more wooreid about the Chiefs game this weekend and wouldn't go near that game if I was a bettor for a million. Last thing on the Colts and this is huge Bob Sanders is out and still hasn't practiced. If he isn't near 100% and ready to go in two weeks advantage the Titans plus being at home helps.

[Cringer]

In a serious breakdown of things, I still lean towards the Giants as the best team in the league in all honesty. QB, RB, WRs, Defense, and I like them better then the Cowboys overall. The Colts defense is their problem and I can't consider them right now. The Chargers will battle with the Broncos, and those teams are good but not the best right now.

My problem with the Titans is QB, because to me it sounds like at some point this season they make the move back to Young from what I have heard Fisher say on NFL Radio.

[Galaril]

In a serious breakdown of things, I still lean towards the Giants as the best team in the league in all honesty. QB, RB, WRs, Defense, and I like them better then the Cowboys overall. The Colts defense is their problem and I can't consider them right now. The Chargers will battle with the Broncos, and those teams are good but not the best right now.

My problem with the Titans is QB, because to me it sounds like at some point this season they make the move back to Young from what I have heard Fisher say on NFL Radio.

I agree I worry about them going back to Young who has shown little as a starting QB. He really lloks to be a scrambler and that is it. At best he might be a Kordell Stewart type someday. Right now he is a tight end that throws the ball sometimes. I would trade him in the offseason but that is for another discussion.

[Alan T]

Last night's game is what I get for openly rooting for any kind of New York team. I should have learned my lesson long ago that is making a deal with the devil. Thanks for messing me up in both my fantasy league and in the hi/low game!

[MikeVic]

Steelers are the best team.

[TroyF]

At this point, I'd say the Giants are the best team in football. . . but parity really is at it again. Every team has issues. The only reason I pick the Giants is they seem to be more consistent in all phases of the game than anyone else. (though lets face it, the Redskins team they played in week one wasn't the current Redskins team, the Rams, Bengals and Seahawks were just horrible football teams against everyone)

I think the Titans are headed to 11 wins or more, but like others, I'm concerned about how they'll hold up when they face a good offensive team and are forced to score points. They haven't faced a team above 17th in the league in points scored yet. We'll see how they do when they face more potent offensive teams.

[Lathum]

Last night's game is what I get for openly rooting for any kind of New York team. I should have learned my lesson long ago that is making a deal with the devil. Thanks for messing me up in both my fantasy league and in the hi/low game!

stay away from my teams fucker!!

[Galaril]

Steelers are the best team.


Ah, I am not impressed by the steelers or Rothelesberger.

[DeToxRox]

At this point, I'd say the Giants are the best team in football. . . but parity really is at it again. Every team has issues. The only reason I pick the Giants is they seem to be more consistent in all phases of the game than anyone else. (though lets face it, the Redskins team they played in week one wasn't the current Redskins team, the Rams, Bengals and Seahawks were just horrible football teams against everyone)

I think the Titans are headed to 11 wins or more, but like others, I'm concerned about how they'll hold up when they face a good offensive team and are forced to score points. They haven't faced a team above 17th in the league in points scored yet. We'll see how they do when they face more potent offensive teams.

The Titans D is awesome though, and I wonder how many times they'll even need to score 25 + points to win a game.

Now I do think if Vince Young becomes the starter again, the Titans will be in trouble, but Collins gives them enough balance with a passing game that their offense will be potent enough to do some damage.

[sabotai]

I'd say the Giants are still the best, but 2 reasons for that. 1) I'm biased. 2) They are, in all honesty and with as much objectivity I can give, the best team in the NFL of the teams I have been able to see play more than one game.

I haven't watched the Titans play at all this year. I have TiVo'ed every game that has come on for me and saved them to my PC. There isn't a Titans game there, so I can't even go back and watch the games I might have skipped over in previous weeks. Everything that I have seen of the Titans are clips in the post game shows and stats. I can't form any really valid opinion on a team just based on stats and a few highlights. I need to see them actually play. So if I were to say the Titans are the best, I'd be going purely off what everyone else is saying.

So I'll just say that of the teams I have been able to actually watch this year, the Giants are the best. And since we are still young in the season, that doesn't really mean much since I've only really been able to see a few games from a dozen teams or so.

[Galaril]

I'd say the Giants are still the best, but 2 reasons for that. 1) I'm biased. 2) They are, in all honesty and with as much objectivity I can give, the best team in the NFL of the teams I have been able to see play more than one game.

I haven't watched the Titans play at all this year. I have TiVo'ed every game that has come on for me and saved them to my PC. There isn't a Titans game there, so I can't even go back and watch the games I might have skipped over in previous weeks. Everything that I have seen of the Titans are clips in the post game shows and stats. I can't form any really valid opinion on a team just based on stats and a few highlights. I need to see them actually play. So if I were to say the Titans are the best, I'd be going purely off what everyone else is saying.

So I'll just say that of the teams I have been able to actually watch this year, the Giants are the best. And since we are still young in the season, that doesn't really mean much since I've only really been able to see a few games from a dozen teams or so.

I don't think the Titans are the "best" team in the league but they are 5-0.So, just as I didn't think the Giants were the best team last year personnel /coaching wise they went home with the trophy.