View Full Version : Tommy Bowden fired!
Easy Mac
10-13-2008, 11:07 AM
Perhaps he can reunite with Rich Rod
JonInMiddleGA
10-13-2008, 11:17 AM
Only Rivals seems to have this so far. No sign of it on cbssportsline or espn.com, nor the newspaper sites in Greenville or Columbia.
Interesting that the move (assuming it has taken place) comes one day after the announcement that the freshman Korn would replace Harper as the starting QB. Wonder if Bowden allegedly telling the media about the change before he told the players turned into the last straw?
Butter
10-13-2008, 11:25 AM
On ESPN front page now.
JonInMiddleGA
10-13-2008, 11:27 AM
On ESPN front page now.
Props to Rivals for the scoop then.
Galaxy
10-13-2008, 11:32 AM
So, who do you think they'll go after to take over?
Thank god Bobby Bowden won't have to save his son's job anymore.
Butter
10-13-2008, 11:42 AM
My wife wants Bobby Johnson from Vandy. Honestly, I am not sure if that's the right way to go. Some delusional fans think Bill Cowher would be interested. I don't know why.
digamma
10-13-2008, 11:47 AM
Well, Georgia Tech was probably due for a let down after a really hard fought game against Gardner-Webb, but add to this the emotion of Clemson playing for a new coach and new quarterback and it could be a tough environment in the Valley. I'm glad the game is at noon so the Tigger faithful won't be to lathered up and frothing at the mouth.
Butter
10-13-2008, 11:49 AM
Well, Georgia Tech was probably due for a let down after a really hard fought game against Gardner-Webb, but add to this the emotion of Clemson playing for a new coach and new quarterback and it could be a tough environment in the Valley. I'm glad the game is at noon so the Tigger faithful won't be to lathered up and frothing at the mouth.
Not to derail the thread... but 10-7 over Gardner-Webb? What was that about?
As for it being a noon game, don't worry about them being too lathered up... most bars don't even open until at least 8 AM.
Recoil
10-13-2008, 11:51 AM
Harper: "He got what he deserved." (per ESPN)
lol
digamma
10-13-2008, 11:56 AM
Not to derail the thread... but 10-7 over Gardner-Webb? What was that about?
As for it being a noon game, don't worry about them being too lathered up... most bars don't even open until at least 8 AM.
Some combination of a 3rd and 4th string quarterback not suited to run the offense and unable to connect on passes against 9 in the box and single coverage on the outside.
No word on the status of either Nesbitt or Jaybo Shaw for Saturday.
Butter
10-13-2008, 12:02 PM
Will be interesting to see if Cullen Harper gets the QB job back, or if Korn remains the starter, as so named by Bowden on Saturday.
Butter
10-13-2008, 12:03 PM
Both players interviewed in the ESPN article didn't seem remorseful in the least. Both thought it would ultimately be a positive step for this season. You have to wonder how bad it really was.
VPI97
10-13-2008, 12:04 PM
This is bad news for the rest of the ACC...at least I can take solace in that it looks like the last two UVA wins will help keep Al Groh in Charlottesville.
CU Tiger
10-13-2008, 12:08 PM
Dabo Sweeney interim through years end.
Local list buzz seems to be:
Bobby Johnson
Will Muschamp
Buzz Peterson
Lane Kiffin (WTF? WHY?)
Dave Christensen
Firebird
10-13-2008, 12:09 PM
Holy wow.
CU Tiger
10-13-2008, 12:11 PM
Talking to a good friend who is at the Jervey Athletic Office.
Looks like OC Rob Spence may be gone as well.
He is loading up his Hummer as we speak with boxes from his office.
Lathum
10-13-2008, 12:16 PM
Harper: "He got what he deserved." (per ESPN)
lol
thats awesome
Butter
10-13-2008, 12:24 PM
Talking to a good friend who is at the Jervey Athletic Office.
Looks like OC Rob Spence may be gone as well.
He is loading up his Hummer as we speak with boxes from his office.
Sweet. Spence has been a waste for quite some time.
None of this improves the offensive line play, however.
Dr. Sak
10-13-2008, 12:25 PM
Perhaps he can reunite with Rich Rod
Bring back Chuck Whitehurst
CU Tiger
10-13-2008, 12:27 PM
these are telling...
Clemson running back C.J. Spiller had mixed emotions seeing Bowden let go.
"I'm shocked. We are 3-3 because we didn't make enough big offensive plays," Spiller said. "I'm shocked by our record and now I'm shocked that our coach is gone.
"I enjoyed playing for coach Bowden and I liked him, but in the end he was yelling at us to be leaders and it wasn't working. He did all he could to motivate us but guys weren't buying into what he was saying. And he said a lot of the same things over and over again.
"He let the offensive coordinator [Rob Spence] run the show and we got away from me and James [Davis]. I think part of the problem was when he benched Cullen. Some people wanted the offensive coordinator fired, [Bowden benched] the quarterback and then he got fired."
CU Tiger
10-13-2008, 12:34 PM
Email just received to all IPTAY members
Bowden Steps Down as Head Coach at Clemson
October 13, 2008
Clemson, SC—Clemson University and Head Football Coach Tommy Bowden parted ways on Monday. After two meetings on Monday morning between Bowden and Athletic Director Terry Don Phillips, it was agreed upon that Bowden would no longer be the Clemson Head Coach. He will be replaced by assistant head coach Dabo Swinnney on an interim basis.
“Terry Don Phillips approached me this morning and we agreed that this is the best solution for the direction of the program,” said Bowden. “Clemson has been very good to me and my family. Both of our children are Clemson graduates.
“I appreciate the opportunity Clemson University gave me and the support of the administration while I was here. I also want to thank all the student-athletes and coaches who worked so hard for this program the last 10 years.
“I wish Clemson University nothing but the best in the future.”
Bowden coached Clemson for 10 seasons (including 2008) and posted a 72-45 record for his 117 games. He never had a losing season. Including his two years at Tulane when he posted an 18-4 record, Bowden has a career record of 90-49, a 65.2 winning percentage.
He leaves Clemson third in school history in wins with 72, games coached with 117, and wins over top 25 teams with 13. Included in the list of ranked wins are three of Clemson’s six top 10 road wins in history. He led the Tigers with a win at ninth-ranked Georgia Tech in 2001, 10th ranked Miami (FL) in 2004 and ninth ranked Florida State in 2006.
Four of his nine previous teams finished the year ranked in the top 25 of both polls. His highest ranked team was the 2000 edition that finished with a 9-3 record and a number-14 ranking by USA Today and number-16 by Associated Press. That team began the year with an 8-0 record and reached a number-four national ranking by USA Today.
While Bowden never won the ACC Championship at Clemson, he never had a losing record in ACC play when he coached a complete season. He was 43-32 against ACC competition overall. His best ACC record was the 6-2 mark posted in 2000.
The Tigers are 3-3 so far this year, 1-2 in the ACC. The Tigers have wins over NC State, South Carolina State and The Citadel, with losses against Alabama, Maryland and Wake Forest. Alabama is currently ranked second in the nation and Wake Forest is 21st.
timmynausea
10-13-2008, 12:44 PM
If he hadn't left WVU for Michigan last year, Rich Rodriguez would be the coach at Clemson next year. No doubt in my mind. He even owns a lot of property in the area.
And there are already some on the WVU boards that want Tommy to come to WVU. He was a WVU player and grad. I guess it is arguable as to whether or not Bowden would be better than what we have.
CU Tiger
10-13-2008, 01:00 PM
If he hadn't left WVU for Michigan last year, Rich Rodriguez would be the coach at Clemson next year. No doubt in my mind. He even owns a lot of property in the area.
And there are already some on the WVU boards that want Tommy to come to WVU. He was a WVU player and grad. I guess it is arguable as to whether or not Bowden would be better than what we have.
Allegedly Rich contacted Clemson admin last season to ask if there was an opening coming during the UM uncertainty
JonInMiddleGA
10-13-2008, 01:05 PM
Some combination of a 3rd and 4th string quarterback not suited to run the offense and unable to connect on passes against 9 in the box and single coverage on the outside.
And an OL that was either unwilling/incapable of blocking anybody for any reason.
JonInMiddleGA
10-13-2008, 01:11 PM
Local list buzz seems to be:
Bobby Johnson
Will Muschamp
Buzz Peterson
Lane Kiffin (WTF? WHY?)
Dave Christensen
This was part of the family conversation at lunch. My first thought was Johnson & I'm sure he'll get a look but ultimately I don't think it would be a good fit for him or the school. He seems to really like doing things his own way with a minimum of interference and/or pressure from the outside and I don't see that happening at CU.
Muschamp has to be a contender for pretty much any & every job opening doesn't he? Under the circumstances I figure he can pick his spot and I don't know if Clemson would be the number one job out there for him.
Kiffin? Heh.
Christensen? The ex-Raiders tight end? I don't think I even knew he was a coach.
Peterson? Why would he leave the Charlotte Bobcats front office to start coaching football? ;)
GrantDawg
10-13-2008, 02:01 PM
Bobby Johnson is a good coach, and is going to get a good bit of buzz this off-season. I just don't think there is any way he'd work out at a major university. Strict is not nearly a strong enough word for him. I just can't see him fitting in with the type of players Clemson has (no slight to Clemson players meant.)
Passacaglia
10-13-2008, 02:08 PM
I think the ex-Raiders tight end was Todd Christensen. Finally, all those hours spent playing Tecmo Bowl comes in handy.
DeToxRox
10-13-2008, 02:08 PM
How long until Cutcliff is out of Duke and onto better things?
It's only been a season but he is setting himself up nicely for a new job sooner rather then later.
ISiddiqui
10-13-2008, 02:41 PM
This is bad news for the rest of the ACC
Yeah, totally. Clemson may actually live up to its promise now.
M GO BLUE!!!
10-13-2008, 03:05 PM
If he hadn't left WVU for Michigan last year, Rich Rodriguez would be the coach at Clemson next year. No doubt in my mind. He even owns a lot of property in the area.
Sounds like a great match to me.
:popcorn:
clemsonfan
10-13-2008, 03:07 PM
Praise Jesus!
clemsonfan
10-13-2008, 03:10 PM
My wife wants Bobby Johnson from Vandy. Honestly, I am not sure if that's the right way to go. Some delusional fans think Bill Cowher would be interested. I don't know why.
Yep, I think Bobby Johnson is the way to go. He used to be an assistant coach at Clemson and he's a Clemson grad and former player. He coached Furman when they were good and look what he's done for Vandy!
digamma
10-13-2008, 03:47 PM
Email just received to all IPTAY members
Didn't realize It was Probation Time Again (y'all).
JonInMiddleGA
10-13-2008, 04:11 PM
Didn't realize It was Probation Time Again (y'all).
Speaking of which, looking at Swinney's bio (http://clemsontigers.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/swinney_dabo00.html), it looks as though he was part of the Bama staff during the DuBose era. Hopefully he wasn't a part of the things that led to their probation, Clemson definitely doesn't need to revisit that sort of thing.
DuBose incidentally is now head coach at D-3 Millsaps College, which I didn't know until looking up his tenure to refresh my memory.
tarcone
10-13-2008, 06:49 PM
Kirk Ferentz could be available.
At least I hope he is.
Recoil
10-13-2008, 07:21 PM
How about Terry Bowden?
CU Tiger
10-13-2008, 08:36 PM
This was part of the family conversation at lunch. My first thought was Johnson & I'm sure he'll get a look but ultimately I don't think it would be a good fit for him or the school. He seems to really like doing things his own way with a minimum of interference and/or pressure from the outside and I don't see that happening at CU.
Muschamp has to be a contender for pretty much any & every job opening doesn't he? Under the circumstances I figure he can pick his spot and I don't know if Clemson would be the number one job out there for him.
Kiffin? Heh.
Christensen? The ex-Raiders tight end? I don't think I even knew he was a coach.
Peterson? Why would he leave the Charlotte Bobcats front office to start coaching football? ;)
Ok, I typed this with 200 other things going on.
1) I dont understand Kiffen's connection at all...but he is intriguing
2) Dave Christensen (maybe I have the wrong name Ill go check) the OC at Mizzou
3) And just Damn...Buzz Peterson....damn....Chris Petersen of Boise State fame...another one I really dont see.
CU Tiger
10-13-2008, 08:38 PM
Didn't realize It was Probation Time Again (y'all).
I totally dont get this quote...
Are you implying an email from the AD to all athletic fund donors would be a violation?
Or rather going back 4 coaches to the Ford days, saying no one but Bowden ha avoided controversy at Clemson?
Celeval
10-13-2008, 08:41 PM
I think he's going for It's Probation Time Again Y'all
Vegas Vic
10-13-2008, 10:52 PM
Rumor has it that Bobby Petrino is headed to Clemson tomorrow.
VPI97
10-13-2008, 10:55 PM
Rumor has it that Bobby Petrino is headed to Clemson tomorrow.
Too late...RichRod flew in tonight.
digamma
10-13-2008, 11:45 PM
I totally dont get this quote...
Are you implying an email from the AD to all athletic fund donors would be a violation?
Or rather going back 4 coaches to the Ford days, saying no one but Bowden ha avoided controversy at Clemson?
I think he's going for It's Probation Time Again Y'all
Yup...just an old joke to make myself chuckle. Sorry you didn't.
Lathum
10-14-2008, 12:18 AM
Schiano may be looking to jump ship
CU Tiger
10-14-2008, 08:01 AM
Yup...just an old joke to make myself chuckle. Sorry you didn't.
Ahh...no hard feelings.
I got it now.
My wife and Linda Bowden (Tommy's wife) have done a number of fund raising and mission type work together over the past few years. They spoke late last night its a tough situation for all, I feel for Tommy; he is a good man.
But it was time for a change.
John, I think you guys get an easy win this Saturday, not that you wouldnt have won anyway but this teams in too much turmoil to compete Im afraid. Baptism by fire Coach Swwinney
Malificent
10-14-2008, 12:50 PM
How long until Cutcliff is out of Duke and onto better things?
It's only been a season but he is setting himself up nicely for a new job sooner rather then later.
Don't say that. We're enjoying this...what do you call it..football?...now that we have a competent coach and I would hate for that to get taken away right off the bat.
GrantDawg
10-14-2008, 02:40 PM
Rumor has it that Bobby Petrino is headed to Clemson tomorrow.
His wife is in town looking for houses. Meanwhile, Petrino is promising his AD he is not interested in another job. :)
Kodos
10-14-2008, 03:42 PM
Today, an irate Nick Saban denied that he was going to become Clemson's new coach.
JonInMiddleGA
10-14-2008, 04:38 PM
Y'know, Danny Ford is only 61 years old. He could come back & coach for at least another 20 years if he wanted to pull a Paterno.
Vegas Vic
10-14-2008, 07:06 PM
Y'know, Danny Ford is only 61 years old. He could come back & coach for at least another 20 years if he wanted to pull a Paterno.
Danny would have Clemson on the NCAA death penalty within two years of his return.
CU Tiger
10-14-2008, 08:32 PM
Y'know, Danny Ford is only 61 years old. He could come back & coach for at least another 20 years if he wanted to pull a Paterno.
Shut up....you dont know how many fans I have heard say this same thing today....get over it.
BTW it is my understanding that Clemson has $40MM set aside for the next 5 years for the RIGHT candidate...whomever that may be.
TDP has made one head coach signing and Oliver Purnell hasn't done too poorly with the BBall team
I think the game has passed Danny Ford by a little bit based on what I saw when he was at Arkansas. He certainly repaired a lot of the damage to the program done in the early 90s, but people eventually lost patience with him. I think Clemson can do better than rehiring Danny Ford.
JonInMiddleGA
10-14-2008, 08:48 PM
Shut up....you dont know how many fans I have heard say this same thing today....get over it.
Actually, I was mostly shocked to realize that he wasn't older than that.
I dunno, just seemed to me like he should be older.
Neuqua
10-14-2008, 09:18 PM
YouTube - Clemson Fan Crying Over Bowden (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoifMZd5Ewg)
Haha.
Easy Mac
10-15-2008, 10:36 AM
Too late...RichRod flew in tonight.
You're joking, but a plane flew from Ann Arbor to Oconee Regional (Clemson's airport) this morning.
FlightAware > Live Flight Tracker > N4092R (http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N4092R)
Ah the good old days of flight tracking during a coach search.
Butter
10-15-2008, 11:15 AM
If Rodriguez were really doing that to Michigan mid-season (flying to other potential jobs during a preparation week), he would need to be fired right now anyway.
As it is, I would hope Clemson would not be interested, considering all that happened in the wake of his move from WVU to Michigan.
Swaggs
10-15-2008, 12:41 PM
If Rodriguez were really doing that to Michigan mid-season (flying to other potential jobs during a preparation week), he would need to be fired right now anyway.
As it is, I would hope Clemson would not be interested, considering all that happened in the wake of his move from WVU to Michigan.
His agent is a Clemson grad and makes no bones about the fact that Rodriguez is a product (and should be treated as such) to him.
I don't think Rod would leave Michigan for Clemson, but I wouldn't put it past his agent to put out feelers to see if some leverage could be had. After reading his agent's testimony during the Rod-WVU divorce, there isn't much I would put past him.
Wolfpack
10-15-2008, 10:39 PM
Shut up....you dont know how many fans I have heard say this same thing today....get over it.
Only problem is that unfortunately, there will be that portion of the fan base that clings to Danny Ford for whatever reason. There was an opinion piece in the Charlotte Observer a couple of days ago that said he should come back. I had to read the whole thing through in order to realize the columnist was actually serious. I have no idea of what his allegiance to Clemson is, but the notion in and of itself is laughable. I do honestly believe now that Danny Ford could be a dead-and-buried corpse and some portion of the Clemson fanbase would fire whatever coach was in charge and try desperately to re-animate Ford and give him the job back.
digamma
10-15-2008, 11:15 PM
No word on the status of either Nesbitt or Jaybo Shaw for Saturday.
Josh and Jaybo have practiced the first part of this week and Paul Johnson declared both of them 100% in his mid-week press conference.
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