NFL Week 8

[DeToxRox]

And it starts with steroid news:

REPORT: “RASH” OF POSITIVE DRUG TESTS ENSNARES SAINTS
Posted by Mike Florio on October 24, 2008, 12:29 p.m.

Josina Anderson of FOX 31 in Denver reports that there has been a “rash” of positive tests under the policy regarding anabolic steroids and related substances.

Citing a “highly-placed NFL source,” Anderson reports that there have been as few as six and as many as ten positive results, resulting from players taking water pills in an effort to lose weight.

Per the report, three or four play for the Saints, including running back Deuce McAllister and defensive end Will Smith.

The substance in question is Bumetanide, which apparently can mask the presence of other substances, such as steroids.

Under the league’s policy regarding anabolic steroids and related substances, a first offense results in a four-game suspension.

[stevew]

*rushes off to claim pierre thomas in fantasy league*

[DeToxRox]

Oh .. more drug news:

HOLMES CITED FOR MARIJUANA POSSESSION
Posted by Mike Florio on October 23, 2008, 11:52 p.m.

Steelers receiver Santonio Holmes, who ran afoul of the law twice not long after he was selected by the Steelers in round one of the 2006 draft, is in trouble again.

On Thursday afternoon, Holmes was cited in Pittsburgh for possession of marijuana.

His SUV was stopped because it matched the description of a vehicle that had been involved in a crime. Police then discovered the marijuana.

“When they pulled him over, they found there was a smell of burnt marijuana in the vehicle,” said Sgt. James Vogel. “Mr. Holmes was very cooperative with officers and turned over some items to us and was subsequently summoned for those items . . . a couple of marijuana blunts.”

Holmes wasn’t taken into custody, but he was given a summons to appear in court, and he was released.

And while the authorities in Pittsburgh didn’t give Holmes a pass, Sgt. Vogel has gone to bat for him.

“We wouldn’t expect a steelworker to be laid off or suspended without pay [for marijuana possession],” said Vogel. “I wouldn’t expect a police officer, firefighter or a member of the Steelers.”

[Editor’s note: If/when my house is on fire, I hope that they dispatch the guys from the firehouse with the firefigthers who spend their down time smoking pot. They’ll be so much mellower while trying to save my life.]

But Sgt. Vogel didn’t write the league’s rules for things of this nature. If Holmes is convicted of or pleads guilty to the charges, he’ll be subject to discipline under the substance-abuse policy. For a first offense, Holmes faces a maximum suspension of four games, without pay.

Earlier this year, Pats running back Kevin Faulk was suspended for one game after admitting to marijuana possession.

Technically, the Steelers aren’t permitted to discipline Holmes separately. And they likely won’t, given that Holmes is a key contributor. (See Harrison, James and Wilson, Cedrick.)

[GrantDawg]

And it starts with steroid news:

REPORT: “RASH” OF POSITIVE DRUG TESTS ENSNARES SAINTS
Posted by Mike Florio on October 24, 2008, 12:29 p.m.

Josina Anderson of FOX 31 in Denver reports that there has been a “rash” of positive tests under the policy regarding anabolic steroids and related substances.

Citing a “highly-placed NFL source,” Anderson reports that there have been as few as six and as many as ten positive results, resulting from players taking water pills in an effort to lose weight.

Per the report, three or four play for the Saints, including running back Deuce McAllister and defensive end Will Smith.

The substance in question is Bumetanide, which apparently can mask the presence of other substances, such as steroids.

Under the league’s policy regarding anabolic steroids and related substances, a first offense results in a four-game suspension.


Ummmm....yeah. That could be bad. Or good since I'm a Falcon's fan. :)

[Alan T]

Ummmm....yeah. That could be bad. Or good since I'm a Falcon's fan. :)

:+1:

[DeToxRox]

Mort is now saying it is over 15 guys who tested positive.

[DeToxRox]

Any suspensions would come after this week, right?

/guyrelyingondeuceinafantasyleague

That I dunno, but considering I have Deuce because Bush is out, as well as Santonio on my team, I sure hope so. I had to go spend 5 more bucks just now to pick up Pierre Thomas just to be safe.

[DeToxRox]

SANTONIO WILL SIT ON SUNDAY
Posted by Mike Florio on October 24, 2008, 1:35 p.m.

Our buddy Tim Benz of WXDX in Pittsburgh tells us that Steelers coach Mike Tomlin will deactivate receiver Santonio Holmes for Sunday’s game against the Giants.

Holmes was cited for marijuana possession on Thursday.

Tomlin declined to call the move a suspension. Technically, teams are not permitted to discipline players who have been charged with drug or alcohol offenses.

Nate Washington will start in place of Holmes. Dallas Baker and Limas Sweed will both be active for the Steelers.

[DeToxRox]

More suspension news:

Per Jay Glazer, Pat and Kevin Williams tested for that steroid coverup drug. There goes the Vikes season if true.

[DaddyTorgo]

question: what's up with no sunday night football game up here in Boston this week? is it a local-market-blackout? or is my cable box showing the wrong info?

[DeToxRox]

question: what's up with no sunday night football game up here in Boston this week? is it a local-market-blackout? or is my cable box showing the wrong info?

No SNF tonight, presumably because of the World Series.

[DaddyTorgo]

aaaah *nods* well that's silly. woulda been a good opportunity for the NFL to outdraw the WS and be like "see advertisers, we are America's #1 sport"

[Matthean]

RE: Dallas

That might have been one of the best tackles done by a punter, ever.

[Alan T]

Rams looking pretty good for a second straight week so far. If you had asked me at the start of the season what would happen for St.Louis last week and this week I definitely would have figured they would be blown out of both games. What a crazy season this has been so far.

[Thomkal]

nice to see Anquan Boldin back on the field after that scary hit to his face against the Jets. Yet another stuff on 3rd down keeps the Cards out of the endzone though.

[PurdueBrad]

That screen pass TD for the Jets was pretty sweet. Just saw the replay as well and Alan Faneca is a freakin' genius (wish my Steelers would've paid him and done a bit more to keep him happy).

[PurdueBrad]

Did Marshawn Lynch go down? I'm playing against him but I keep seeing F. Jackson getting carries.

NEVERMIND, Lynch didn't go down. Just surprised how many carries Fred Jackson is taking from Lynch.

[Big Fo]

What a joke call against the Eagles there. This is becoming touch football.

[GrantDawg]

I'll admit on the roughing the passer call in the Falcon-Eagles game, that was a bad call.

[miked]

So every time a QB gets hit, even while he's throwing, they're going to throw the flag? Really, these officials need to be reminded that the object is to tackle.

[Alan T]

Ugh, only get one game choice (Rams vs Pats) and right now the feed on this game is acting up. It is skipping like a DVD with a scratch on it to the point of unwatchable. Stupid FOX, get your act together.

[PurdueBrad]

That sucks Alan, hope it clears up soon for you (although still a bad game to have to see).

[GrantDawg]

So every time a QB gets hit, even while he's throwing, they're going to throw the flag? Really, these officials need to be reminded that the object is to tackle.


Yup, but then again if Ryan is hurt, then league can feel free to fine the guy a million dollars. :)

[PurdueBrad]

Bad pick by Favre. Partly forced by pressure, partly forced by Brett being Brett. He's hurt too, hit his forearm on a helmet on the follow-through.

[Alan T]

Long pass to Avery for a Rams TD. The two Patriots secondary players made a great tackle on each other to look foolish.

[PurdueBrad]

And Thigpen puts together a great drive (thanks to beautiful catches by Bowe and then Gonzalez for the TD) to tie things vs. the Jets.

[Jas_lov]

LOL! Favre throws yet another terrible pick and Tyler Thigpen shows him how it's done, 7-7 game.

[Thomkal]

Tyler Thigpen is 6/6 for 65 yards and a TD for KC, looking good so far.

[Thomkal]

Go Thigpen! :)

[Thomkal]

woohoo, Cards knock the ball out of Delhomme's hands and have it at the five yard line

[Thomkal]

and just like that TD Anquan Boldin

[DaddyTorgo]

Pats secondary is so bad it's going to prevent them from going anywhere this year - unless these young kids grow up FAST

[PurdueBrad]

Wow, my fantasy team is getting decimated. Jason Witten, early word, broken ribs pending X-rays.

[Thomkal]

ooof on Witten.

[GrantDawg]

Ryan to Roddy White, TD. 7-0 Falcons.

[PurdueBrad]

Favre another bad pick.

[Jas_lov]

Favre just throwing it up for grabs now. Thigpen is outplaying Favre. Here's a tip for the Jets- Run the ball against the worst rush defense in the NFL.

[Tigercat]

Good to see that the Saints are finally motivated to play well with the threat of losing half to the team to waterpill suspensions. :banghead:

[Thomkal]

Muhammad drops a perfectly thrown TD pass for the Panthers with no one around him and they have to settle for a FG.

[Thomkal]

Thigpen a perfect 10/10, who said he had accuracy problems?

[GrantDawg]

So, how long will the Falcons luck out and McNabb will keep missing open receivers?

[Thomkal]

of course right after I said that he had an incomplete

[DaddyTorgo]

So, how long will the Falcons luck out and McNabb will keep missing open receivers?

i think it's more that McNabb is intimidated by Matty Ryan - getting a chance to see what a real-QB looks like...

[GrantDawg]

i think it's more that McNabb is intimidated by Matty Ryan - getting a chance to see what a real-QB looks like...


Lol. Then again, McNabb might be rubbing off on Ryan, since he has missed a couple guys open down-field.

[Thomkal]

Cards go for the fake FG after that damned last second time out on the first try of the FG, and don't get enough for the first down. :(

[Eaglesfan27]

i think it's more that McNabb is intimidated by Matty Ryan - getting a chance to see what a real-QB looks like...

Sure, faux QB's always lead their team to 4 straight NFC title games.

[Jas_lov]

Good call by Pete Morelli. That was a TD by Mark Bradley. The Jets are struggling for the 2nd week in a row against one of the worst teams in the NFL.

[Thomkal]

wooh Thigpen and the instant replay folk. Incomplete pass call reversed, TD Chiefs

[Radii]

Cards go for the fake FG after that damned last second time out on the first try of the FG, and don't get enough for the first down. :(

Why in the hell would they try a fake there? 4th and 14, up 10-3 with an easy 39 yard FG try to go up 2 scores before the half... 4th and 14!!!

[Thomkal]

yeah I don't understand that one either, should have been a no-brainer FG there

[Thomkal]

Cards march right down the field from the kickoff and pickup 7 more

[Eaglesfan27]

A very nice drive for the Eagles ends with a Westbrook TD run. 17-7 Eagles now.

[GrantDawg]

A very nice drive for the Eagles ends with a Westbrook TD run. 17-7 Eagles now.


Yup. Looks like they are about to take over this game.

[Thomkal]

Thigpen nearly does the same thing as the Cards from the kickoff, but have to settle for a FG

[Thomkal]

Cards defense falls asleep after the TD and Deangelo Williams runs one in for Carolina

[Eaglesfan27]

Desean... ugh so many great moments but so many boneheaded ones like that play. I just hope those go away after his rookie year.

[GrantDawg]

Desean... ugh so many great moments but so many boneheaded ones like that play. I just hope those go away after his rookie year.


Yeah, that was truly ugly.

[Thomkal]

Edgerrin James coughes up the ball on the second play of the drive after the TD, Pathers recover, Steve Smith TD follows. Please Cardinals get a RB in the draft next season thank you.

[Buccaneer]

Desean... ugh so many great moments but so many boneheaded ones like that play. I just hope those go away after his rookie year.

Doubtful. There are many rookies that have not done shit like he has done. Somewhere along the line, he was not taught well.

[Radii]

Good to see Carolina finally wake up on offense. This one may be turning into a 2nd half shootout, as Kurt Warner is tearing up the Carolina secondary when Arizona isn't fumbling the ball away.

[zums]

Desean... ugh so many great moments but so many boneheaded ones like that play. I just hope those go away after his rookie year.

Not able to watch... what did he do now?!

[Alan T]

All teams have to do evidently vs the Patriots is to throw deep. Every team that has done that this season has burned them badly. I have a feeling many of my co-workers will be hanging this season on the loss of Brady with the thought that if Brady had not been hurt, they would still be a super bowl contender this season. Watching this secondary, I really don't think that actually would be the case.

I think even if Brady had been healthy, they would have been toe to toe with the Bills to even win the division. A healthy Brady would have meant they could score a bunch more, but they still would have been in a bunch of 42-35 games with this secondary. I think the Pats are going to have to do some serious work on their defense if they want to return to a yearly favorite when Brady returns (even in a weak AFC East)

[DaddyTorgo]

All teams have to do evidently vs the Patriots is to throw deep. Every team that has done that this season has burned them badly. I have a feeling many of my co-workers will be hanging this season on the loss of Brady with the thought that if Brady had not been hurt, they would still be a super bowl contender this season. Watching this secondary, I really don't think that actually would be the case.

I think even if Brady had been healthy, they would have been toe to toe with the Bills to even win the division. A healthy Brady would have meant they could score a bunch more, but they still would have been in a bunch of 42-35 games with this secondary. I think the Pats are going to have to do some serious work on their defense if they want to return to a yearly favorite when Brady returns (even in a weak AFC East)

+1

[GrantDawg]

Welp, there's another rookie throw by Ryan. You got expect these games every once in awhile, and there is no doubt Philly's D is playing well.

[Matthean]

The Lions have gotten so bad the NFL is blocking Fox from showing the game and thus we are getting Dallas vs. Tampa Bay. Not that I'm complaining mind you...

[Thomkal]

Cards come right back with a long drive and another Boldin TD. Fun game

[cmp]

I don't know what else to do but laugh at the Lions now. Pathetic.

[Thomkal]

And the Cardinals pathetic attempts at tackling come back to bite them as Steve Smith shrugs off a couple of attempts to knock him out of bounds and runs 50 or so yards for a TD. Cards challenged but was not reversed

[airulf]

Pretty cool. Joe Flacco has a reception for 43 yards on a pass from Troy Smith.

[Radii]

And the Cardinals pathetic attempts at tackling come back to bite them as Steve Smith shrugs off a couple of attempts to knock him out of bounds and runs 50 or so yards for a TD. Cards challenged but was not reversed

I'm pretty shocked that wasn't overturned.

[Thomkal]

I'm pretty shocked that wasn't overturned.

me too, looked like his one foot was out of bounds there

[Jas_lov]

Favre throws another INT this time a pick 6 and the pathetic Chiefs are on top of the Jets by 4. Should have stayed retired, Brett.

[Thomkal]

Favre INT for the 3rd time and this time it really cost him, run back for a TD

[Eaglesfan27]

Not able to watch... what did he do now?!

Fielded a punt to close to his endzone and then ran backwards and sideways ending up getting tackled at his own 1.

[JetsIn06]

Motherfucking fuck. Watching this team makes me sick.

[SirFozzie]

Great catch by Faulk there. Pats up by 7.

[Arles]

Favre INT for the 3rd time and this time it really cost him, run back for a TD
I still can't believe the Packers went with Rodgers over this guy... :popcorn:

[miami_fan]

Come on Dolphins. Close the game out with a TD!

[GrantDawg]

Can we stop throwing at Lito Sheppard? Please?

[SirFozzie]

You gota be kiddiong me, ball deflected at the line and it falls into the hands of Dante Hall who out jumps like FIVE patriots

[Arles]

There needs to be a fulltime camera on Wade Phillips during this last Tampa drive. The "clueless look" factor is about a 50 out of 10 on his face.

[Thomkal]

I still can't believe the Packers went with Rodgers over this guy... :popcorn:
yeah what were the Packers thinking? :devil:

[SirFozzie]

Jets take the lead over KC

[Thomkal]

looks like Favre and the Jets are gonna escape with a win they did not deserve, Go up by 4 with a minute left

[SirFozzie]

Pats INT means BALL game.

O'Neal with the clinching pick, and he runs around for 20 seconds.. all the while Foz screams "GO DOWN! GO DOWN!"

[airulf]

The horrible secondary of the Patriots just close the game on a pick by Deltha O'Neal :)

[SirFozzie]

Belichick is throwing a nutty on the sidelines, because the refs expected Cassell to immediately take a knee, and blew the whistle, costing a couple seconds.

It was legitimately the craziest I've ever seen him.

[Thomkal]

Thigpen trying to lead them down the field after getting a sack nullified by a Jets penalty

[miami_fan]

Nice job by the Dolphins D today.

[Thomkal]

Ugh Thigpen sacked again

[SirFozzie]

Dante Hall is an idiot. Catches the ball in the end zone, and dances around for 10 seconds before stepping out of the end zone

[Thomkal]

crap Cards ae gonna lose. :(

[Tasan]

Holy cow, it was ugly but the Cowboys win. Yay.

[GrantDawg]

MFSOBGDMFSOBGDMFSOB!!! HOW THE F DO THEY MISS THAT CALL!!!!!

[ISiddiqui]

WOW... the Falcons just got super-mega screwed on the call of whether Jennings touched the punt.

[Tasan]

crap Cards ae gonna lose. :(

That was pathetic by the Cards D there on third down. They should have had that one stopped.

[Jas_lov]

looks like Favre and the Jets are gonna escape with a win they did not deserve, Go up by 4 with a minute left

Yep. Favre tried his best to give the game away but the Chiefs just don't have enough good players. The Jets are going to get pounded when they play real teams like Buffalo and Tennessee. You can't play teams led by Tyler Thigpen and Ryan Fitzpatrick every week.

[sabotai]

One reason why you should always keep a timeout handy. But yeah, Atlanta just got royally fucked.

[Thomkal]

aww too bad, Chiefs can't convert a 4th down and they are gonna lose too. Thigpen does a lot better than expected 25/36 for 280 yards, 2 TD's no INT or fumbles

[GrantDawg]

WOW... the Falcons just got super-mega screwed on the call of whether Jennings touched the punt.

They need to change that freakin rule to be like college. Every play should be able to be reviewed, because that crap wasn't even close.

[Buccaneer]

There needs to be a fulltime camera on Wade Phillips during this last Tampa drive. The "clueless look" factor is about a 50 out of 10 on his face.

I told my wife the same thing. We agreed, based on seeing him for many years, that he goes through life with a constant befuddled look.

[Thomkal]

That was pathetic by the Cards D there on third down. They should have had that one stopped.

Yep they had a lot of pathetic defensive lapses in the second half.

[ISiddiqui]

One reason why you should always keep a timeout handy. But yeah, Atlanta just got royally fucked.

Unfortunately on the previous drive, they had to burn one because Norwood couldn't get up after a big hit. Damn you injury timeouts!!! :mad:

[Arles]

Grr, I was looking pretty good until the ref's blown call gave Westbrook another TD and now it's dicey for me this week in FF.

[Radii]

Carolina is 6-2 going into a bye week. Perhaps I overreacted a little after their bad loss vs Minnesota early in the year in saying that they wouldn't make the playoffs and Fox would be fired. ;)

After the bye, their next 2 games are Oakland and Detroit.

[Thomkal]

Carolina is 6-2 going into a bye week. Perhaps I overreacted a little after their bad loss vs Minnesota early in the year in saying that they wouldn't make the playoffs and Fox would be fired. ;)

After the bye, their next 2 games are Oakland and Detroit.

Yep perhaps a bit of a overreaction. :) But the season is only half-over. Looks like a nice stretch for them for sure though.

[DeToxRox]

Hey Bengals, here is an idea ... WIN!

I want Michael Oher on the Lions.

[GrantDawg]

What the heck are the Steelers wearing?

[Radii]

But the season is only half-over. Looks like a nice stretch for them for sure though.

Yeah anything could happen for sure, but its a favorable schedule to at least make the playoffs and hopefully challenge for the division.

[MikeVic]

So I figured I'd hear multiple Bettis/Jacobs comparisons. But I haven't heard even one yet?

[sabotai]

They need to change that freakin rule to be like college. Every play should be able to be reviewed, because that crap wasn't even close.

All they really need to do is get rid of the timeouts part of the rule. Only having 2 challenges per game (+1 if you have 2 successful challenges) is enough to keep teams from abusing it. There's really no reason at all to tie challenges to timeouts.

EDIT: Actually, I can see how a team could abuse it by calling a few challenges late in games in order to get a few free timeouts. Perhaps just extending it to 5 minutes in the 4th quarter to booth reviews would solve that.

[Matthean]

What the heck are the Steelers wearing?

Throw up, I mean throw back uniforms.

[Jas_lov]

That was a terrible leading with the helmet call on the Giants safety. It was obvious he led with the shoulder and couldn't stop. The Giants are going to regret it later if they can't punch it into the endzone when they have the chance.

[Suburban Rhythm]

That was a terrible leading with the helmet call on the Giants safety. It was obvious he led with the shoulder and couldn't stop. The Giants are going to regret it later if they can't punch it into the endzone when they have the chance.

The call wasn't leading with the helmet, it was the receiver was defenseless.

[Chief Rum]

So, you're playing at home after a bye, your opponent is missing its star TE and coming off of an ugly week of staph infection allegations, and they're not that good anyway. So what do you do? You're freakin' blowing the game?

Way to go, JAX. You're going to cost me both of my betting sheets this week, because you, the possessor of the easiest call of the week, couldn't nut up and get a win. You suck, Del Rio.

[Suburban Rhythm]

Anyone have Ty Law on speed dial?

The Steelers have about 5 DBs left. Total. And two of them are Ty Carter and Anthony Smith.

[sabotai]

I don't think the NYG-PIT game is ever going to end. 3 hours into the game and there's still most of the 4th quarter to play.

[Suburban Rhythm]

Never mind, Ike Taylor is back in.

Maybe Brandon Jacobs should worry more about being able to run straight ahead 3 feet than talking shit to Ike Taylor while his laying on the ground injured.

[stevew]

ugly finish.

Time to find a long snapper.

[stevew]

Anyone have Ty Law on speed dial?

The Steelers have about 5 DBs left. Total. And two of them are Ty Carter and Anthony Smith.

Lord Tyrone is just horrible. I think Ward could play Safety better than that putz.

[Lathum]

so I just got back from the bar and watching the Giants game. The officiating was some of the worst I have ever seen. How many times can a Steelers DB get a handfull of Giants jersey in the endzone and not get called?

[Lathum]

Carolina is 6-2 going into a bye week. Perhaps I overreacted a little after their bad loss vs Minnesota early in the year in saying that they wouldn't make the playoffs and Fox would be fired. ;)

After the bye, their next 2 games are Oakland and Detroit.

I hate to say I told you...

[Radii]

I hate to say I told you...

I don't mind being wrong. ;)

I have become pretty anti-John Fox the last few seasons and am ready to see a change in the coaching philosophy at Carolina, so I'm very quick to turn against him when Carolina can't run the ball, plays shitty defense, the play calling is bad, or the players are making mental mistakes, even in short stretches when overall things aren't that bad.

[Lathum]

Unless they can get Cowher who do you want to replace him??

[Lathum]

dola- Todays win solidifies the Giants as the best team in the league

[digamma]

until Tennessee beats the Peytons tomorrow night.

[Suburban Rhythm]

so I just got back from the bar and watching the Giants game. The officiating was some of the worst I have ever seen. How many times can a Steelers DB get a handfull of Giants jersey in the endzone and not get called?

The Steelers got away with a ton. But I could ask the same about the number of times, especially in the first half, that Woodley or Harrison had McKenzie or Diehl beaten outside only to be grabbed...and not called.

But I agree. They'll let all those go, then call the one on Kevin Boss where, even without the hold, Woodley is about 3 yards from (I think) Ward on that screen.

[miami_fan]

So did Vernon Davis deserve to be embarrassed by Mike Singletary today? Or did Mike just kill his chances of being a head coach?

[Buccaneer]

So did Vernon Davis deserve to be embarrassed by Mike Singletary today? Or did Mike just kill his chances of being a head coach?

Absolutely (i.e., deserved to be embarrased).

"I will not tolerate players that think it's about them when it's about the team," Singletary said. "We cannot make decisions that cost the team, and then come off the sideline and it's nonchalant. No. ... I'd rather play with 10 people and just get penalized all the way until we have to do something else rather than play with 11 when I know that right now that person is not sold out to be a part of this team."

Whatever that means but former players like the great Singletary shouldn't have to put up with immature jerks like Davis.

[GrantDawg]

Absolutely (i.e., deserved to be embarrased).

"I will not tolerate players that think it's about them when it's about the team," Singletary said. "We cannot make decisions that cost the team, and then come off the sideline and it's nonchalant. No. ... I'd rather play with 10 people and just get penalized all the way until we have to do something else rather than play with 11 when I know that right now that person is not sold out to be a part of this team."

Whatever that means but former players like the great Singletary shouldn't have to put up with immature jerks like Davis.


Absolutely. He needs to wake that team up, and Davis' actions made him prime example number one.

[Travis]

I hope Singletary also points out Davis' hustle to the other guys during film review (on the Wilson interception return). He nearly got Wilson before the end zone and given the current state of Seattle's offense that could have kept 4 points off the board. No excuse for what Davis did later, but fair is fair.

[molson]

I was in a huge RB bind between injuries and bye weeks, and had to start Kevin Faulk and Tim Hightower. They both scored TDs and provided the winning margin. I'm not used to getting the breaks.

[Matthean]

Full article on Singletary (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/nfl/10/26/singletary.49ers.ap/index.html)

Even Davis had no issue with it.

[Galaril]

until Tennessee beats the Peytons tomorrow night.


Agreed the score maybe fiarly close but I see the Titans offense and defense as Colliingsworht said the otherday pounding the Colts all game ought to be fun.

[henry296]

so I just got back from the bar and watching the Giants game. The officiating was some of the worst I have ever seen. How many times can a Steelers DB get a handfull of Giants jersey in the endzone and not get called?

Just read in the Pittsburgh paper that there was one less ref, the back judge, for the game yesterday which would explain some of it.

[stevew]

Greg Warren's knee buckling as he was trying to walk off on his own power was friggin disgusting.

[Suburban Rhythm]

Greg Warren's knee buckling as he was trying to walk off on his own power was friggin disgusting.

Yeah...that replay, I kept thinking to myself 'Tim Krumrie, Super Bowl XXIII'. Warren's knee did the same unnatural things as Krumrie's ankle.

[stevew]

Singletary definitely has Denny Green type blowup potential. I can't wait.

[Thomkal]

Looking more and more like the Chiefs are going to sign Culpepper to a multi-year contract. Probably a good thing for the Chiefs overall, but as a Tyler Thigpen fan its a bit of a bummer. He should get to start this week against Tampa at least.

[MJ4H]

Thomkal I went kite-flying yesterday afternoon and missed it, how did Tyler Thigpen finish the game? I know he was doing really well through about 3 and a half quarters.

[Thomkal]

Thomkal I went kite-flying yesterday afternoon and missed it, how did Tyler Thigpen finish the game? I know he was doing really well through about 3 and a half quarters.

I didn't actually see the game, just kept track of it on NFL.com and a Chiefs blogsite, but sounds like they got conservative with his game plan and began missing more in the second half. He actually did quite well other than getting sacked twice (one called back due to penalty) in the final drive with a minute to play. Got them down to the 30 yard line or so then tried a pass on 4th and 1 that I believe was defended against. So not sure if it was a good pass or not. Can't believe they didn't try to run him over to the sideline with his speed he should have been able to get a yard before going out of bounds.

Tony Gonsalez said after the game that no one was expecting him to do that well. Apparantly Bowe said during the week that he thought Thigpen would do well and it did look like he was developing a chemistry with both Bowe and Gonsalez.

[Lathum]

Just read in the Pittsburgh paper that there was one less ref, the back judge, for the game yesterday which would explain some of it.

Even so, they blew the challange on the 4th and 1 where they said Jacobs wasn't in, the overhead shot showed clearly he was in, and the personal foul on Phillips was an absolut crock that was on third down and it gave the Steelers a first down.

I'm not trying to sound bitter because the Giants won and at times Big Ben looked lost and I think for now we can put to bed who the best QB drafted that year was ( I honestly think that question can't be answered until their careers are over). But my god, there were some really bad calls/ missed calls.

[Fighter of Foo]

I didn't actually see the game, just kept track of it on NFL.com and a Chiefs blogsite, but sounds like they got conservative with his game plan and began missing more in the second half. He actually did quite well other than getting sacked twice (one called back due to penalty) in the final drive with a minute to play. Got them down to the 30 yard line or so then tried a pass on 4th and 1 that I believe was defended against. So not sure if it was a good pass or not. Can't believe they didn't try to run him over to the sideline with his speed he should have been able to get a yard before going out of bounds.

Tony Gonsalez said after the game that no one was expecting him to do that well. Apparantly Bowe said during the week that he thought Thigpen would do well and it did look like he was developing a chemistry with both Bowe and Gonsalez.

Favre being Favre helped too. The human interception machine was fully functional.

[Logan]

This probably got lost because of the more well-known Mike Singletary interview, but this sideline report is a must watch.

YouTube - Mike on the ghost of Bill Walsh (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2ILQbByawE)

[molson]

This probably got lost because of the more well-known Mike Singletary interview, but this sideline report is a must watch.

YouTube - Mike on the ghost of Bill Walsh (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2ILQbByawE)

For god's sake.....

I can maybe see an airhead sideline bimbo not knowing Bill Walsh was dead. But how does she make up something about him being Singletary's mentor?

[Pumpy Tudors]

For god's sake.....

I can maybe see an airhead sideline bimbo not knowing Bill Walsh was dead. But how does she make up something about him being Singletary's mentor?
She probably read this article (http://www.mercurynews.com/49ersheadlines/ci_10772195?nclick_check=1) and completely misunderstood it.

[Lathum]

Man, the Colts look terrible. Mannings problems aside, they just look brutal.

[stevew]

I loves me some Bironas. Outscores Reggie Wayne by 10 points tonight, and I win!!!!

[Galaril]

Man, the Colts look terrible. Mannings problems aside, they just look brutal.

They were off some but I think it was mostly the Titans just outplayed the Colts.

[dubb93]

it was mostly the Titans just outplayed the Colts.

I agree

Man, the Colts look terrible. Mannings problems aside, they just look brutal.

I agree again.

At this point something just isn't working. People around here are talking about Bob Sanders coming back and saving the defense, but as far as I can tell he was apart of the Bears disaster to start the season.

It is just hard to put a finger on it. Injuries aside, they are managing to be outplayed EVERY week. Hard to imagine this team turning it around at this point. I really think there is some kind of Manning injury that isn't being released. At this point it is going beyond O-Line problems and a lack of practice. We are 7 games into the season and Manning had plenty of time to throw tonight. Something just isn't right. Barring a turn around out of nowhere at this point I expect this could be an interesting off season here in Indy.