Programmers/Developers - your web enabled application

[Edward64]

Has anyone on this forum has written a software application and made it available on the internet?

I don't mean working on an enterprise ERP/SCM/CRM application that is accessible on the web (hey, that's what I do). Instead, I am thinking more of a hobbyist or small business that has written application in Jave or .Net(preferable using a database like mySQL) and is now available in some web page? Not necessarily to sell or market, but just to do.

I would personally like to do this and wanted to get experiences from others who actually have.

[gstelmack]

Well, several of us have entire league websites with reports, upload/download, and other cool features if that helps. WOOF and USFL have lots of ASP.NET stuff.

[Edward64]

Well, several of us have entire league websites with reports, upload/download, and other cool features if that helps. WOOF and USFL have lots of ASP.NET stuff.
Greg, thanks. I went to woof link in your sig and it said "page not found". I selected your RR link and it said "server busy". I'll try them a little later.

When you get a chance (no rush), can you give me some background info? Appreciate any help you can give in layman's terms. I have alot of SQL knowledge but no Jave, .Net or web page design.

1) How does FOF info get into your database and is it automated/manual update.
2) How does your webpage retrieve info from your database (ex. what are the calls you use)
3) What is the language or development environment you use?
4) Did you have to find special web hosting (ex. I've been checking out 'a small orange' for my initial play environment) and can you give me an idea as to how much they charge.

Nothing too detailed, just want to get an idea.

[gstelmack]

Ah, yes, we're having fits with our host, so it's difficult to see much right now.

1) I wrote a utility called DBUpdater that reads the FOF binary files and updates the MySQL database remotely. nHibernate is used for MOST database updates / queries, although it does some straight SQL bits as well through the MySQL Connector.

2) Again, I use nHibernate for most queries against the database.

3) C# under Visual Studio 2008, all targeting ASP.NET 2.0.

4) I went with EasyCGI who charges like $7.95 / month for ASP hosting. They were really good for me for several years, then they brought in new management, installed a new hosting setup with pooled servers, and killed stability in the process. I can't recommend them right now and am actively seeking a better host. I've got a thread here for that investigation.

[ShaneTheMaster]

Greg, thanks. I went to woof link in your sig and it said "page not found". I selected your RR link and it said "server busy". I'll try them a little later.

When you get a chance (no rush), can you give me some background info? Appreciate any help you can give in layman's terms. I have alot of SQL knowledge but no Jave, .Net or web page design.

1) How does FOF info get into your database and is it automated/manual update.
2) How does your webpage retrieve info from your database (ex. what are the calls you use)
3) What is the language or development environment you use?
4) Did you have to find special web hosting (ex. I've been checking out 'a small orange' for my initial play environment) and can you give me an idea as to how much they charge.

Nothing too detailed, just want to get an idea.

I wrote the USFL site in ASP.NET, and we are on the same troubled host as the WOOF site. We are up and running at www.fof-usfl.net (http://www.fof-usfl.net) ; however, there are intermittent issues that are occuring.

1. I use the cool utility that Greg wrote, and the website itself puts some data into the database.

2. Our data is in MySQL, and I use the ASP.NET MySQL Provider, and run inline queries to it (we didn't use stored procs, since our version of MySQL at the time didnt support Stored Procs.).

3. ASP.NET 2.0 (VB.NET)

4. EasyCGI (cringe) :mad: About 7-10 /month is what you'll pay at most hosts.

[Edward64]

I am a programmer, just not C# or VB, and believe I can pick it up by reading online manuals or books.

It looks as if its a .net world so far, do you have a recommendation strongly for/against C# or VB?

A pro I think for C# is that it is most like Java which would maximize my investment per future alternative programming options, true?

[gstelmack]

VB vs C# is a religious war I won't get into for fear of offending all those folks who love VB (and to be fair, there is a lot of cool VB stuff out there).

But C# is basically Microsoft's "primary" language, and one of my favorite languages to work in.

ASP.NET is not the only way to go, there is a lot done in PHP as well. PHP can be simpler especially for basic reports, I think ASP shines with larger applications where the OO nature helps with structure.

[Fidatelo]

If you're starting from scratch language-wise, you might want to check out Ruby On Rails. I'm not going to vouch for it personally since I haven't had an excuse to do anything more than 'Hello World' with it, but it sure seems to have a following.

[lordscarlet]

My site is at: http://sixteencolors.net. It is written in C# using SQL Server and LINQ to SQL. Having said that, I am working on rewriting it in Ruby on Rails because I'm hoping to get a little more open-source-like help on it.

I am a programmer, just not C# or VB, and believe I can pick it up by reading online manuals or books.

It looks as if its a .net world so far, do you have a recommendation strongly for/against C# or VB?

A pro I think for C# is that it is most like Java which would maximize my investment per future alternative programming options, true?

If you're not an OOP developer, c#/vb.net will be a little harder to pickup.

I will echo the recommendation for Ruby on Rails. I also hear Merb is excellent, but I haven't used it.

ASP.NET pages are a lot harder to find cheap hosting for. My site is run out of someone's basement.

[Matthean]

ASP.NET pages are a lot harder to find cheap hosting for.

This and the fact that PHP can handle such a vast amount of what you need for website related stuff is why PHP is such a popular language to use for making websites. For a pure hobby, I would go Java for desktop applications, and then MySQL/PHP for web development. If a person is looking at something for future employment, then I think MS related technologies get a bigger push.

[Subby]

cuervo did the database-driven portions of the FOFL (http://www.thefofl.com) web site in PHP and mysql (he might have some perl scripts running, but not sure).

php/mysql is the way to go because hosting is so cheap.

[lordscarlet]

cuervo did the database-driven portions of the FOFL (http://www.thefofl.com) web site in PHP and mysql (he might have some perl scripts running, but not sure).

php/mysql is the way to go because hosting is so cheap.

I would say:

php or ruby on rails or merb or python

and mysql or postgresql or a handful of other open source db's that you can find hosting for