PDA

View Full Version : Second Life affair ends in Divorce


Neuqua
11-16-2008, 08:22 PM
I admit.. I lol'ed throughout the whole thing...

Second Life affair ends in divorce - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/11/14/second.life.divorce/index.html)

LONDON, England (CNN) -- A British couple who married in a lavish Second Life wedding ceremony are to divorce after one of them had an alleged "affair" in the online world.

Amy Taylor, 28, said she had caught husband David Pollard, 40, having sex with an animated woman. The couple, who met in an Internet chatroom in 2003, are now separated.

"I went mad -- I was so hurt. I just couldn't believe what he'd done," Taylor told the Western Morning News. "It may have started online, but it existed entirely in the real world and it hurts just as much now it is over."

Second Life allows users to create alter egos known as "avatars" and interact with other players, forming relationships, holding down jobs and trading products and services for a virtual currency convertible into real life dollars. iReport.com: Share your stories from Second Life

Taylor said she had caught Pollard's avatar having sex with a virtual prostitute: "I looked at the computer screen and could see his character having sex with a female character. It's cheating as far as I'm concerned."
Don't Miss

The couple's real-life wedding in 2005 was eclipsed by a fairy tale ceremony held within Second Life.

But Taylor told the Western Morning News she had subsequently hired an online private detective to track his activities: "He never did anything in real life, but I had my suspicions about what he was doing in Second Life." iReport.com: Anger in a virtual world

Pollard admitted having an online relationship with a "girl in America" but denied wrongdoing. "We weren't even having cyber sex or anything like that, we were just chatting and hanging out together," he told the Western Morning News.

Taylor is now in a new relationship with a man she met in the online roleplaying game World of Warcraft.

hawk4669
11-16-2008, 08:28 PM
Wow.

Galaxy
11-16-2008, 08:29 PM
Taylor is now in a new relationship with a man she met in the online roleplaying game World of Warcraft.

I find this to be the best part.

Noop
11-16-2008, 08:29 PM
Wow.... I think some people need to put down the joy stick.

Galaxy
11-16-2008, 08:30 PM
Wow.... I think some people need to put down the joy stick.

:eek:

Drake
11-16-2008, 08:44 PM
Okay, I've spent my share of time in infidelity support groups after my wife's affair, and I know intellectually that women tend to find emotional affairs just as gut-wrenching as physical affairs...but I'm honestly baffled by online "emotional" affairs like this.

I just can't really see why this sort of thing would be divorce-caliber upsetting. Sure, tell him he's a dickwad and set some boundaries for appropriate online behavior, but purely online emotional stuff just baffles me (both in the "why would you want to do it?" sense and the "why would you give a shit?" sense).

Now, if the chick on the other end starts calling him in real life, sending him e-mail or planning to run off with him, bust him all you want. But avatar sex?

I'm desperately hoping that there's more to this story (i.e., a broader pattern of inappropriate marital behavior, including inappropriate attachments to actual flesh-and-blood women) and we're just not getting it because the headline wouldn't be as catchy.

I fully acknowledge that maybe I'm just not getting this because I'm a guy.

sabotai
11-16-2008, 08:45 PM
I find this to be the best part.

I found the article amusing, but that last line had me laughing uncontrollably. The writer could not have ended the article better.

Noop
11-16-2008, 08:46 PM
:eek:

What no joy stick? Okay then raise their hands of the mouse and keyboard.

Neuqua
11-16-2008, 08:48 PM
I did not know that avatars could have sex on SecondLife, that's news to me.

Crim
11-16-2008, 08:48 PM
That is one funnyashell story right there.

Radii
11-16-2008, 09:07 PM
I just can't really see why this sort of thing would be divorce-caliber upsetting.

From the story:

The couple, who met in an Internet chatroom in 2003, are now separated.

I think that's the most important line from the story. My take is that these two met in a chatroom, certainly had some sort of emotional connection cybersex themselves, and place a much much higher level of importance on it now as a result.

Drake
11-16-2008, 09:56 PM
I suppose that could be true. My wife freaks out if I send friendly e-mails to co-worker chicks as part of work banter because I "used to joke with (her) like that".

Silly me. I thought I joked with everybody "like that".

Still, seems like more of a chick thing. I remember when my wife and I had been married for about two years and we got our first computer, she was doing the cybersex thing with a guy we knew. I busted her on it and we had a long talk about appropriate behavior for married people (and exchanging sexy messages with acquaintances over the interwebs wasn't one of them). Thing was, I didn't really even give a shit about what she was doing. For me, it was all about the double standard: if I'd done anything even remotely like that, she would have ripped my head off. (But, of course, I wouldn't have done anything like that anyway, because it was silly. I like to have both my hands free for jerking off, thank you.)

Then again, if I'd dealt with that behavior better, maybe I wouldn't have found myself on the shit end of a real affair ten years later. ;)

But as you can tell from my decade old anecdote, my opinion hasn't really changed, even with a great deal more wisdom. It's worth a serious conversation or five about appropriate marital boundaries, but that's about it.

Izulde
11-16-2008, 10:01 PM
I did not know that avatars could have sex on SecondLife, that's news to me.

Yeah it's been that way for a number of years now.

The escort places can be entertaining at times, but whatever you do, no matter how bored you get, do -not- wander into a furry zone.

MrBug708
11-16-2008, 10:07 PM
This is the first I have ever heard about Second Life

Galaxy
11-16-2008, 10:19 PM
This is the first I have ever heard about Second Life

Me too....Escort rooms? The Furry zone (I'm afraid to ask what that exactly is)?

Izulde
11-16-2008, 10:26 PM
Me too....Escort rooms? The Furry zone (I'm afraid to ask what that exactly is)?

Escort rooms are usually combination strip clubs/brothels where each girl has a set price of Lindens per sexual activity. There's usually a house minimum, but generally speaking, the ones worth their salt are going to charge more, of course. Each girl can also set limits on the types of the things they do. Like for example, some won't do ageplay or bondage or furry or snuff or whatever and if a client asks for those things, they'll refer the client to an escort who will engage in what said client is looking for.

Furry zones are seriously depraved places. We're talking the kind of fucked up shit that creeps even me out. Basically, think bipedal, sentinent animals of all species with human sex organs and the desire to use them.

Then you've got the Gorean zones, which are interesting, but not really my cup of tea. I tend to be bored by the RP zones. It's just too awkward that way, though I appreciate the work a lot of people put into it.

It's a fascinating fusion of SL economy and RL economy at times too, with some people pouring quite a bit of real life cash into it. Some people even make a fair bit of real life money out of it, too.

There's also the usual just hang out and chat places, a lot of trivia contests that people host, etc. Lot of dance clubs, etc.

Basically, you imagine it, SL probably has it in some form or another.

Karlifornia
11-16-2008, 10:28 PM
The Furry zone (I'm afraid to ask what that exactly is)?

I'm not sure, but I'd guess French is the main language spoken there.

DanGarion
11-16-2008, 11:00 PM
Damn Amy Taylor is hot, have you guys done an image search on her yet?

MrBug708
11-16-2008, 11:04 PM
Not that Amy Taylor :)

Karlifornia
11-16-2008, 11:25 PM
I'm creating a second life account so that I can view the forums. This could have dynasty written all over it. You can pick any first name you want, but then it creates a list of "available last names".

Oh boy. I try like 5 different first names (including my own), but it says no last names available. So I try the first name of "Boyd", and there are some actual winners.

Ladies and gentlemen, I am now Boyd Snoodle.

More to come.

Karlifornia
11-16-2008, 11:34 PM
whoops..I guess had them send the confirmation email to an account that doesn't exist...attempt two, I am now HAMBONE SWEETWATER

Fidatelo
11-16-2008, 11:36 PM
Escort rooms are usually combination strip clubs/brothels where each girl has a set price of Lindens per sexual activity. There's usually a house minimum, but generally speaking, the ones worth their salt are going to charge more, of course. Each girl can also set limits on the types of the things they do. Like for example, some won't do ageplay or bondage or furry or snuff or whatever and if a client asks for those things, they'll refer the client to an escort who will engage in what said client is looking for.

Furry zones are seriously depraved places. We're talking the kind of fucked up shit that creeps even me out. Basically, think bipedal, sentinent animals of all species with human sex organs and the desire to use them.

Then you've got the Gorean zones, which are interesting, but not really my cup of tea. I tend to be bored by the RP zones. It's just too awkward that way, though I appreciate the work a lot of people put into it.

It's a fascinating fusion of SL economy and RL economy at times too, with some people pouring quite a bit of real life cash into it. Some people even make a fair bit of real life money out of it, too.

There's also the usual just hang out and chat places, a lot of trivia contests that people host, etc. Lot of dance clubs, etc.

Basically, you imagine it, SL probably has it in some form or another.

What. The. Fuck.

Seriously.



Seriously.

JediKooter
11-17-2008, 12:42 AM
So who gets all the Jolt and Magic the Gathering cards?

DeToxRox
11-17-2008, 12:56 AM
Escort rooms are usually combination strip clubs/brothels where each girl has a set price of Lindens per sexual activity. There's usually a house minimum, but generally speaking, the ones worth their salt are going to charge more, of course. Each girl can also set limits on the types of the things they do. Like for example, some won't do ageplay or bondage or furry or snuff or whatever and if a client asks for those things, they'll refer the client to an escort who will engage in what said client is looking for.

Furry zones are seriously depraved places. We're talking the kind of fucked up shit that creeps even me out. Basically, think bipedal, sentinent animals of all species with human sex organs and the desire to use them.

Then you've got the Gorean zones, which are interesting, but not really my cup of tea. I tend to be bored by the RP zones. It's just too awkward that way, though I appreciate the work a lot of people put into it.

It's a fascinating fusion of SL economy and RL economy at times too, with some people pouring quite a bit of real life cash into it. Some people even make a fair bit of real life money out of it, too.

There's also the usual just hang out and chat places, a lot of trivia contests that people host, etc. Lot of dance clubs, etc.

Basically, you imagine it, SL probably has it in some form or another.

So when you're in one of those rooms do you keep hitting F5 to prolong it?

Also ... at climax is it customary to type VINI VIDI VICCI?

stevew
11-17-2008, 01:19 AM
I pick blackberries in my online world.

Crim
11-17-2008, 08:17 AM
So who gets all the Jolt and Magic the Gathering cards?

excellent

flere-imsaho
11-17-2008, 08:28 AM
I find this to be the best part.

Yeah, that last sentence was awesome. :D

Logan
11-17-2008, 08:53 AM
We're talking the kind of fucked up shit that creeps even me out.

Winner.

And I have to add, after seeing "Role Models" last night, I am not shocked by any of that disturbing diatribe.

path12
11-17-2008, 12:58 PM
It was doomed to failure as soon as she modeled for his car.

Lathum
11-17-2008, 01:04 PM
Escort rooms are usually combination strip clubs/brothels where each girl has a set price of Lindens per sexual activity. There's usually a house minimum, but generally speaking, the ones worth their salt are going to charge more, of course. Each girl can also set limits on the types of the things they do. Like for example, some won't do ageplay or bondage or furry or snuff or whatever and if a client asks for those things, they'll refer the client to an escort who will engage in what said client is looking for.

Furry zones are seriously depraved places. We're talking the kind of fucked up shit that creeps even me out. Basically, think bipedal, sentinent animals of all species with human sex organs and the desire to use them.

Then you've got the Gorean zones, which are interesting, but not really my cup of tea. I tend to be bored by the RP zones. It's just too awkward that way, though I appreciate the work a lot of people put into it.

It's a fascinating fusion of SL economy and RL economy at times too, with some people pouring quite a bit of real life cash into it. Some people even make a fair bit of real life money out of it, too.

There's also the usual just hang out and chat places, a lot of trivia contests that people host, etc. Lot of dance clubs, etc.

Basically, you imagine it, SL probably has it in some form or another.


This post creeps me out.

YOu know WAY to much about this.

Lathum
11-17-2008, 01:05 PM
dola- I have never heard of second life and it sounds a little creepy IMO.


So basicly she is divorcing him for doing something akin to picking up a hooker in Grand Theft Auto?

Atocep
11-17-2008, 01:06 PM
dola- I have never heard of second life and it sounds a little creepy IMO.


So basicly she is divorcing him for doing something akin to picking up a hooker in Grand Theft Auto?

Not really, because in GTA you're not left wondering if its really a dude on the other end of the intertubes.

Crim
11-17-2008, 01:24 PM
guffaw!

Mustang
11-17-2008, 01:46 PM
So when you're in one of those rooms do you keep hitting F5 to prolong it?


When you are done you just hit P followed by a line of alternating tildes and spaces.

Autumn
11-17-2008, 02:24 PM
(But, of course, I wouldn't have done anything like that anyway, because it was silly. I like to have both my hands free for jerking off, thank you.)

Wow, you need both hands? You really treat yourself, that's nice.

SFL Cat
11-17-2008, 09:25 PM
Get a life...a real life.

Anthony
11-17-2008, 09:30 PM
Yeah it's been that way for a number of years now.

The escort places can be entertaining at times, but whatever you do, no matter how bored you get, do -not- wander into a furry zone.

this is the 2nd time i've heard of furry zone. pumpy was the first one to tell me about it. what the hell goes on?!?!? :confused:

Anthony
11-17-2008, 09:32 PM
nevermind, izulde let the cat out of the bag.

Galaxy
11-17-2008, 09:35 PM
I wonder if JimmyWint is in Second Life. :)

Anthony
11-17-2008, 09:52 PM
OH SHIT THIS STUFF REALLY IS FUCKING WEIRD!!!!ONE!11!!! (http://xahlee.org/sl/fur.html)

Anthony
11-17-2008, 10:11 PM
JEEZUS CHRIST THIS IS THE SICKEST AND WEIRDEST AND MOST HARDCOREST THING EVER. THIS IS SICK AND DEPRAVED. I CAN'T STOP WRITING IN ALL CAPS.

<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/fkQoirciwQw&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/fkQoirciwQw&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

sabotai
11-17-2008, 10:12 PM
OH SHIT THIS STUFF REALLY IS FUCKING WEIRD!!!!ONE!11!!! (http://xahlee.org/sl/fur.html)

Yeah, furries are....well....they make LARPers look normal.

Mustang
11-17-2008, 10:17 PM
I blame Bugs Bunny

http://worlds2.tcsn.net/tcwf/web/bugs_bunny2.jpg

KWhit
11-17-2008, 10:20 PM
I remember when my wife and I had been married for about two years and we got our first computer, she was doing the cybersex thing with a guy we knew. I busted her on it and we had a long talk about appropriate behavior for married people (and exchanging sexy messages with acquaintances over the interwebs wasn't one of them). Thing was, I didn't really even give a shit about what she was doing.


I don't know. I'd have a pretty big problem if I caught my wife having cybersex - even with a total stranger. I think it would be even worse with someone she actually knew.

I can see how this kind of shit - online "romances" - can actually fuck up real life relationships.

kingnebwsu
11-17-2008, 11:30 PM
Speaking from the bad side of an online something-or-other, it really does screw up real-life relationships. World of Warcraft plus the woman I thought I knew equals our relationship is totally messed up...maybe forever.

Lathum
11-17-2008, 11:37 PM
am I the last person on the planet who jerks off to porn?

MrBug708
11-17-2008, 11:41 PM
Still on erotic stories?

path12
11-18-2008, 10:37 AM
am I the last person on the planet who jerks off to porn?

Nope.

Dr. Sak
11-18-2008, 10:39 AM
am I the last person on the planet who jerks off to Brandon Jacobs?

Fixed :p

JediKooter
11-18-2008, 11:46 AM
am I the last person on the planet who jerks off to porn?

ASCII porn?

Northwood_DK
11-18-2008, 12:36 PM
And just to make the picturer perfect.

Wedding in second life

http://gfx.dagbladet.no/labrador/375/375784/3757842/jpg/active/320x.jpg

and in real life

http://gfx.dagbladet.no/labrador/375/375783/3757836/jpg/active/503x.jpg

Kodos
11-18-2008, 12:44 PM
:D

Klinglerware
11-18-2008, 12:52 PM
'Then his character started to go country and western dancing - and my suspicions really started to grow.'



More pics and comedic gold in that article. In other news, the "other woman" appears to be not terrible looking in real life...

EDIT: Oops NSFW pic in there - It's in the Daily Mail UK, in case you're interested...

path12
11-18-2008, 12:54 PM
In other news, the "other woman" appears to be not terrible looking in real life...

Maybe not terrible looking, but still insane.....

Klinglerware
11-18-2008, 01:00 PM
Maybe not terrible looking, but still insane.....

Yeah, I looked at another article, and the first picture I saw must have been a much younger version of her.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/11/14/article-1085915-02784D3F000005DC-687_224x423.jpg

Now at 55, maybe not so much...

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/11/14/article-1085412-02784D43000005DC-964_224x423.jpg

Galaxy
11-18-2008, 01:03 PM
Western Courier (http://media.www.westerncourier.com/media/storage/paper650/news/2008/11/17/Opinion/Second.Life.Isnt.Primary.Life-3547573.shtml)

I love how she actually hired a private detective? WTF?

Alan T
11-18-2008, 01:06 PM
'Then his character started to go country and western dancing - and my suspicions really started to grow.'



More pics and comedic gold in that article. In other news, the "other woman" appears to be not terrible looking in real life...

EDIT: Oops NSFW pic in there - It's in the Daily Mail UK, in case you're interested...


Not sure if anyone else has already mentioned this (I kind of spaced out on this thread for a bit), but I find it funny in the Daily Mail UK articles it mentions all three of them are unemployed. I think that says alot right there in itself.

Kodos
11-18-2008, 01:13 PM
"We started out like Romeo and Juliet, but it ended up in tragedy."

Klinglerware
11-18-2008, 02:07 PM
Western Courier (http://media.www.westerncourier.com/media/storage/paper650/news/2008/11/17/Opinion/Second.Life.Isnt.Primary.Life-3547573.shtml)

I love how she actually hired a private detective? WTF?

Even more mind-blowing is the fact that the "private detective" was also a virtual character.

So, it was a virtual private investigation that led to a virtual divorce...

Shkspr
11-18-2008, 04:45 PM
I blame the near ubiquitous presence of online communities today making such mistakes in judgment too easy to commit. He should have done something more harmless with his free time, like using an iPhone.

Danny
11-18-2008, 05:26 PM
I blame the near ubiquitous presence of online communities today making such mistakes in judgment too easy to commit. He should have done something more harmless with his free time, like using an iPhone.

HAHA, very funny after I came here right after reading the other one.

kingnebwsu
11-18-2008, 05:32 PM
"We started out like Romeo and Juliet, but it ended up in tragedy."

QFT!!! Someone gets your reference ;)

Crim
11-18-2008, 07:46 PM
And just to make the picturer perfect.

Wedding in second life

http://gfx.dagbladet.no/labrador/375/375784/3757842/jpg/active/320x.jpg

and in real life

http://gfx.dagbladet.no/labrador/375/375783/3757836/jpg/active/503x.jpg

I'm glad my family isn't here this evening because I'd have difficulty explaining the fit of laughter just now. funny funny shit!

SFL Cat
11-18-2008, 09:15 PM
Wowsers!

Fidatelo
11-18-2008, 09:45 PM
I love the look on her face in the real wedding shot. She was ashamed even then.

Passacaglia
11-19-2008, 07:21 AM
Western Courier (http://media.www.westerncourier.com/media/storage/paper650/news/2008/11/17/Opinion/Second.Life.Isnt.Primary.Life-3547573.shtml)

I love how she actually hired a private detective? WTF?

In this article, she's called Ann Taylor. :confused:

Passacaglia
11-19-2008, 07:28 AM
And just to make the picturer perfect.

Wedding in second life

http://gfx.dagbladet.no/labrador/375/375784/3757842/jpg/active/320x.jpg

and in real life

http://gfx.dagbladet.no/labrador/375/375783/3757836/jpg/active/503x.jpg

I like the stats listed below each picture in the Daily Mail article, too. What is a bedsit?

sterlingice
11-19-2008, 12:22 PM
I'm just not sure what my reaction to this is...
-amusement at the absurdity of the situation
-pity for the people involved
-even more scared of Izulde than I already was

Or just go with the safe one:
-horrified by the internet, in general

SI

Galaxy
11-19-2008, 05:33 PM
I'm just not sure what my reaction to this is...
-amusement at the absurdity of the situation
-pity for the people involved
-even more scared of Izulde than I already was

Or just go with the safe one:
-horrified by the internet, in general

SI

I would say all.