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Groundhog
12-16-2008, 10:12 PM
Calling kid Adolf Hitler Campbell takes the cake | World News | News.com.au (http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,24813599-401,00.html)


Calling kid Adolf Hitler Campbell takes the cake
THE father of a toddler called Adolf Hitler Campbell says it is unfair that a store denied him a birthday cake with his child's name on it.

New Jersey man Heath Campbell, 35, has decorated his home with swastikas and says he is related to a member of the SS.

But he says it is the store that wouldn't write "Happy Birthday Adolf Hitler" on a cake that should be showing more consideration for other people's feelings.

"They need to accept a name. A name's a name. The kid isn't going to grow up and do what (Hitler) did," he told the Associated Press.

But the ShopRite store that refused the cake request says it did the right thing.

"We believe the request ... to inscribe a birthday wish to Adolf Hitler is inappropriate," spokeswoman Karen Meleta told the Express-Times newspaper. (http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/warren-county/index.ssf?/base/news-0/122923112231930.xml&coll=3)

The store has also refused to make a cake bearing the name of Mr Campbell's daughter, JoyceLynn Aryan Nation Campbell, who turns two in February.

Mr Campbell and his wife Deborah also have a daughter Honszlynn Hinler Jeannie Campbell, named for SS head Heinrich Himmler, who turns one in April.

He said he named his son after Adolf Hitler (http://search.news.com.au/search//0/?us=ndmnews&sid=401&as=news&ac=search&q=Adolf Hitler)because he liked the name and because "no one else in the world would have that name".

"They're just names, you know," he told the Express-Times.

"Yeah, they (Nazis) were bad people back then. But my kids are little. They're not going to grow up like that."

"Other kids get their cake. I get a hard time," he said. "It's not fair to my children.'

Mr Campbell said he didn't expect the names to cause problems when the children start school.


The happy family:

http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,6403786,00.jpg

Someone please tell me this story is a joke. :(

Pumpy Tudors
12-16-2008, 10:14 PM
This will end well.

ISiddiqui
12-16-2008, 10:16 PM
Freaking Shoprite! :mad:

Greyroofoo
12-16-2008, 10:19 PM
I bet Shoprite is owned by jews

Young Drachma
12-16-2008, 10:24 PM
Lemme guess, South Jersey?

JonInMiddleGA
12-16-2008, 10:25 PM
Mr Campbell said he didn't expect the names to cause problems when the children start school.

I'll take that bet.

ISiddiqui
12-16-2008, 10:28 PM
Lemme guess, South Jersey?

Nope :D

Holland Township family angry that supermarket won't personalize cake for their son - The Express-Times | Lehigh Valley PA Newspaper - lehighvalleylive.com (http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/today/index.ssf/2008/12/holland_township_family_angry.html)

Take your hate elsewhere :p

Big Fo
12-16-2008, 10:29 PM
JoyceLynn Aryan Nation Campbell

:lol:

ISiddiqui
12-16-2008, 10:31 PM
That's just freaking cruel and hilarious at the same time :D.

Crim
12-16-2008, 10:31 PM
THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!

Groundhog
12-16-2008, 10:31 PM
I hope my little boy Tommy Violent Death To All People Who Aren't White Haynes doesn't have any problems when he begins school. :(

Crim
12-16-2008, 10:32 PM
I hope my little boy Tommy Violent Death To All People Who Aren't White Haynes doesn't have any problems when he begins school. :(

Dude, I hope not, but you know how closed-minded some people are...

ISiddiqui
12-16-2008, 10:33 PM
I love the AP article:

The Associated Press: Cake request for 3-year-old Hitler namesake denied (http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hNXg5FqcqZg1KUgf6PNrmnRRk-4wD9546FT80)

"There's a new president and he says it's time for a change; well, then it's time for a change," the 35-year-old continued. "They need to accept a name. A name's a name. The kid isn't going to grow up and do what (Hitler) did."

Karen Meleta, a spokeswoman for ShopRite, said the Campbells had similar requests denied at the same store the last two years and said Heath Campbell previously had asked for a swastika to be included in the decoration.


The Campbells ultimately got their cake decorated at a Wal-Mart in Pennsylvania, Deborah Campbell said. About 12 people attended the birthday party on Sunday, including several children who were of mixed race, according to Heath Campbell.


"If we're so racist, then why would I have them come into my home?" he asked.


On Tuesday he wore a pair of black boots he said were worn by a German soldier during World War II.


HAHA!!

EagleFan
12-16-2008, 10:40 PM
With names like that and such a grea role model for a parent these kids are gonna be seriously fucked up in the head by the time the grow up.

ISiddiqui
12-16-2008, 10:42 PM
ya think? ;)

SackAttack
12-16-2008, 11:01 PM
And here I thought this thread was going to be about poverty.

Young Drachma
12-16-2008, 11:03 PM
Nope :D

Holland Township family angry that supermarket won't personalize cake for their son - The Express-Times | Lehigh Valley PA Newspaper - lehighvalleylive.com (http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/today/index.ssf/2008/12/holland_township_family_angry.html)

Take your hate elsewhere :p

Do you love how, there are all of these random ass towns in the rest of the state that barely exist and it's like "wait, where the hell is that?" I know where the LV is because my parents moved there (I grew up in Central Jersey...) but it's still hilarious when I meet people from Jersey who are from towns I've never heard of and I've been around the state a good bit, though not anymore obviously since I moved away.

Does that happen to you or is that just my distant Jersey experience?

Young Drachma
12-16-2008, 11:04 PM
I love that Wal-Mart ultimately made the cake for them.

samifan24
12-16-2008, 11:07 PM
I remember back in high school sociology class we watched this really disturbing documentary on white supremacy groups. I distinctly remember two little girls, probably 12 at the time, being billed as the "white power Mary-Kate and Ashley." They danced and sang "pop songs" with lyrics about white power. It was incredibly disturbing.

Lorena
12-16-2008, 11:09 PM
jeez, what the hell

SirFozzie
12-16-2008, 11:11 PM
Prussian Blue (duo) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussian_Blue_(American_duo))

These girls? I wish I could be cruel and say "Odds on them going into porn some day?"

But.. eh........ *shudder*

Lorena
12-16-2008, 11:13 PM
I remember back in high school sociology class we watched this really disturbing documentary on white supremacy groups. I distinctly remember two little girls, probably 12 at the time, being billed as the "white power Mary-Kate and Ashley." They danced and sang "pop songs" with lyrics about white power. It was incredibly disturbing.

Ahh yeah, I remember them. I think the family kept moving for some reason and they're currently living in Bakersfield, CA. The duo is called Prussian Blue or something.

Lorena
12-16-2008, 11:15 PM
Yeah, what SirFozzie said.

JonInMiddleGA
12-16-2008, 11:19 PM
I remember back in high school sociology class we watched this really disturbing documentary on white supremacy groups. I distinctly remember two little girls, probably 12 at the time, being billed as the "white power Mary-Kate and Ashley." They danced and sang "pop songs" with lyrics about white power. It was incredibly disturbing.

I remember vaguely seeing the same clip, although I think I may have seen them on Nightline instead of either of the documentaries they've been featured in.

So, a little Googling and voila. Prussian Blue (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussian_Blue_(American_duo))

They're 16 now and were apparently the inspiration for the show White Noise which seems headed to Broadway next year (http://www.playbill.com/news/article/123976.html).

Groundhog
12-16-2008, 11:23 PM
I love that Wal-Mart ultimately made the cake for them.

I don't think it was custom made, they just grabbed it off the shelf.

Groundhog
12-16-2008, 11:24 PM
dola

I had enough trouble finding one of those novelty license plates with "Angus" on it as a kid. Imagine the trouble these kids will have.

EagleFan
12-16-2008, 11:39 PM
I don't think it was custom made, they just grabbed it off the shelf.

I always suspected Wal-Mart was a Nazi organization...

Terps
12-17-2008, 02:04 AM
Heh. This is in my town, and my best friend works at this store.

WSUCougar
12-17-2008, 06:17 AM
They should have gone with an ice cream cake from the Baskin Robbins in the Sudetenland.

samifan24
12-17-2008, 07:17 AM
Prussian Blue (duo) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussian_Blue_(American_duo))

These girls?

Yeah, that's them.

CU Tiger
12-17-2008, 09:03 AM
Seriously can someone just take the kids, kill the parents rename the children and pretend this never happened?

stevew
12-17-2008, 09:19 AM
I think the white power duo was called Prussian Blue.

sterlingice
12-17-2008, 09:31 AM
I love that Wal-Mart ultimately made the cake for them.

Also my favorite part of the story :D

I don't think it was custom made, they just grabbed it off the shelf.

Gold :D

SI

sterlingice
12-17-2008, 09:34 AM
I think the white power duo was called Prussian Blue.

Are you sure? I thought I read somewhere that they were called Prussian Blue or something like that. ;)

SI

cuervo72
12-17-2008, 10:46 AM
dola

I had enough trouble finding one of those novelty license plates with "Angus" on it as a kid. Imagine the trouble these kids will have.

Hmm...if this was not available but say, "Colin" was, something is definitely off in the land down under.

RainMaker
12-17-2008, 12:51 PM
Bunch of loser white trash looking for attention. Should have made the cake with cyanide.

Toddzilla
12-17-2008, 03:41 PM
They should have gone with an ice cream cake from the Baskin Robbins in the Sudetenland.Winnar!

They wouldn't even have to pay for the cake, just annex it :)

ISiddiqui
12-17-2008, 03:51 PM
Do you love how, there are all of these random ass towns in the rest of the state that barely exist and it's like "wait, where the hell is that?" I know where the LV is because my parents moved there (I grew up in Central Jersey...) but it's still hilarious when I meet people from Jersey who are from towns I've never heard of and I've been around the state a good bit, though not anymore obviously since I moved away.

Does that happen to you or is that just my distant Jersey experience?

I only really knew the towns in Ocean County, so if they are from North or West Jersey, I probably wouldn't know the town anyway :D.

Klinglerware
12-17-2008, 03:58 PM
Do you love how, there are all of these random ass towns in the rest of the state that barely exist and it's like "wait, where the hell is that?" I know where the LV is because my parents moved there (I grew up in Central Jersey...) but it's still hilarious when I meet people from Jersey who are from towns I've never heard of and I've been around the state a good bit, though not anymore obviously since I moved away.

Does that happen to you or is that just my distant Jersey experience?

Yes, same for me--I never heard of Holland Township either. I guess for a lot of New Jerseyans that live/grew up along the Turnpike or GSP corridor, the rest of the state barely exists. Not only that, for such a small state, it's amazing how culturally different different parts of it are.

Shkspr
12-17-2008, 04:57 PM
Line stolen shamelessly from livejournal:

"I don't understand why the family just didn't bake the cake themselves. I mean, what kind of Nazis are they if they can't operate an oven?"

SirFozzie
12-17-2008, 05:39 PM
Line stolen shamelessly from livejournal:

"I don't understand why the family just didn't bake the cake themselves. I mean, what kind of Nazis are they if they can't operate an oven?"

...... (opens mouth).... (thinks)...(shuts mouth)..... Never mind.

I hope to hell that ended up on MetaQuotes btw.

molson
12-17-2008, 07:13 PM
Whitepages.com found two "Adolph Hitlers" in the US, and 23 Hitlers total, then links to another site that finds 50 Hitlers.

Exclusive Listing
Adolph Hitler
work
711 Beach Rd, Apt 116
Sarasota, FL 34242-2148
Job title: Manager
Company: Sunset Royale Condominium

Adolph Hitler
work
3681 Green Rd, Ste 302
Beachwood, OH 44122-5716
(216) 595-1585
Job title: Dog Owner
Company: Elderly Foundation

MrBug708
12-17-2008, 07:20 PM
Prussian Blue (duo) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussian_Blue_(American_duo))

These girls? I wish I could be cruel and say "Odds on them going into porn some day?"

But.. eh........ *shudder*

Born on my birthday, 10 years later...

JPhillips
12-17-2008, 07:42 PM
Adolph Hitler
work
3681 Green Rd, Ste 302
Beachwood, OH 44122-5716
(216) 595-1585
Job title: Dog Owner

Good to know Hitler has a sense of humor.

Groundhog
12-17-2008, 09:39 PM
Good to know Hitler has a sense of humor.

But how does he smell?

Lathum
12-18-2008, 08:24 AM
Do you love how, there are all of these random ass towns in the rest of the state that barely exist and it's like "wait, where the hell is that?" I know where the LV is because my parents moved there (I grew up in Central Jersey...) but it's still hilarious when I meet people from Jersey who are from towns I've never heard of and I've been around the state a good bit, though not anymore obviously since I moved away.

Does that happen to you or is that just my distant Jersey experience?

I've heard of it but probably because Saldana lives in Easton. Having lived in that area for a few years I can tell you there is a pretty large white power contingent and these people are obviously a part of that group.

Passacaglia
12-18-2008, 10:17 AM
So now having your cake decorated by someone else is a right? You can buy your own cake decoration stuff if you want it that badly. Jeez. I thought that people like cakes because they taste good, not because it has your name written on it.

Critch
12-18-2008, 11:34 AM
Poor kid looks like a girl. The other kids are going to make fun of him when he gets to school.

JediKooter
01-14-2009, 12:44 PM
Uh oh! Not is all right in our cute little aryan family...

NJ kids with Nazi-inspired names removed from home - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090114/ap_on_re_us/hitler_cake)

DaddyTorgo
01-14-2009, 01:06 PM
Uh oh! Not is all right in our cute little aryan family...

NJ kids with Nazi-inspired names removed from home - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090114/ap_on_re_us/hitler_cake)

Gee, didn't see that one coming. :popcorn:

RendeR
01-14-2009, 02:34 PM
Bunch of loser white trash looking for attention. Should have made the cake with cyanide.

Oh c'mon, tell us how you REALLY feel....

DaddyTorgo
01-14-2009, 03:08 PM
well really...those are some messed up names. i feel bad for the second girl whose name i can't even fathom pronouncing - the one named after Himmler.

*shrugs* but those are a couple of fucked-up parents.

idk if i'd advocate making the cake with cyanide...but in all honesty, removing the kids from that environment is almost undoubtedly what's best for them in the long run

DaddyTorgo
01-14-2009, 03:12 PM
the fark thread hxxp://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=4142835 (http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=4142835) has some priceless puns on this story.

JediKooter
01-14-2009, 03:36 PM
I wonder if they have a cat named Kitler?

JonInMiddleGA
01-14-2009, 03:42 PM
but in all honesty, removing the kids from that environment is almost undoubtedly what's best for them in the long run

In theory, but for the sake of the residents in whereverthehecktheylived (I don't remember which state this was in), I hope the authorities did have some sort of grounds more than not liking their name choices for removing them from the home. Otherwise, the ensuing lawsuit ought to be a real load of fun to watch.

edit to add: Okay, it's New Jersey. "Just to be clear, removal of a child from a family is only done when there's an imminent danger to a child and that wouldn't include the child's name alone," spokeswoman Kate Bernyk said. "We wouldn't remove a child based on their name." You'll have to forgive me if I'm not completely reassured or convinced by that reassurance. Kind of reminds me of hearing the IRS say "we're just here to help", y'know.

Big Fo
01-14-2009, 03:50 PM
I wonder if they have a cat named Kitler?

Just a turkey named Goebbles.

Buccaneer
01-14-2009, 06:08 PM
Anyone who thinks that the State should be doing this - with no apparent evidence of child abuse, abandonment, willfull neglect (according to the State) - does not understand civil liberties or is willing to cherry pick those that civil liberties apply to. Hypocrits. :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

JediKooter
01-14-2009, 06:13 PM
Just a turkey named Goebbles.

Nice one! I hear it likes to eat jelly donitz

Groundhog
01-14-2009, 06:17 PM
Anyone who thinks that the State should be doing this - with no apparent evidence of child abuse, abandonment, willfull neglect (according to the State) - does not understand civil liberties or is willing to cherry pick those that civil liberties apply to. Hypocrits. :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

I'd argue that being brought up in an environment like that - what with the Nazi names and, no doubt, the hate they are being exposed to by their parents - constitutes child abuse. And who knows, maybe the kids being taken away had nothing at all to do with their names. Maybe they have been known to the state authorities for some time before the news story on page 1?

Buccaneer
01-14-2009, 06:49 PM
Yes, we do not know the details except when they said it wasn't for abuse or the names.

no doubt, the hate they are being exposed to by their parents - constitutes child abuse

Are you ok with that, knowing that "hate" takes many forms and applies to many families?

If it is simply to get them out of a white supremacist household, then that would be a severe violation of civil liberties. But there is more to the story and there has to be specific charges in violation of state laws. Otherwise the justification exists to go after those with the wrong skin color or wrong ethnic names, because you'll always find someone hating them. Personally, I find white supremacy disgusting but if you believe in civil liberties, there has to be laws broken.

JonInMiddleGA
01-14-2009, 06:58 PM
I'd argue that being brought up in an environment like that - what with philosophical stuff I don't agree with - constitutes child abuse.

See, just one little edit & I can just +1 this.

(which I suspect runs pretty close to the point Bucc was making)

dawgfan
01-14-2009, 07:58 PM
If it is simply to get them out of a white supremacist household, then that would be a severe violation of civil liberties. But there is more to the story and there has to be specific charges in violation of state laws. Otherwise the justification exists to go after those with the wrong skin color or wrong ethnic names, because you'll always find someone hating them. Personally, I find white supremacy disgusting but if you believe in civil liberties, there has to be laws broken.
Agreed. There needs to be more involved here than simply a white-supremacist/Nazi sympathizer household. And it's quite possible there is.

But if not, the ACLU needs to get involved.

JonInMiddleGA
01-14-2009, 08:04 PM
But if not, the ACLU needs to get involved.

And, to their grudging credit, probably would. Although I always question their motivations for doing so, fair is fair, there's enough precedent that I'd expect them to do so.

dawgfan
01-14-2009, 10:59 PM
And, to their grudging credit, probably would. Although I always question their motivations for doing so, fair is fair, there's enough precedent that I'd expect them to do so.
They've stood up for the rights of the KKK to march in public before, so there's precedent for them to stand up for the civil liberties of those who aren't liberal (despite what conservative critics of the ACLU might have you believe).

This would be right up the ACLU's alley if indeed the state of New Jersey has taken these kids on flimsy legal reasoning.

Galaxy
01-15-2009, 12:23 PM
hxxp://hotair.com/archives/2009/01/14/new-jersey-official-we-didnt-take-the-kid-because-hes-named-after-hitler/