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Young Drachma
12-17-2008, 10:38 PM
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A contestant on "The Price is Right" beat the odds this week to guess the price of his Showcase Showdown EXACTLY right. It was the first time in almost 30 years that that happened. If one is within $100 without going over, you win both of the showcases, which he did and then took home over $56,000 in prizes.
Well, come to find out, there is a message board (http://www.golden-road.net/index.php/topic,9640.msg140232.html#msg140232) where fans of the game (I'm thinking they're the Immersniks of this game show) will memorize the prices of things and the guy who did it admits to it in that thread and someone details what happened here. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/12/17/the-price-is-exactly-righ_n_151779.html?show_comment_id=18899479#comment_18899479)
I didn't realize folks still watched the show, much less that there are fan sites with people trying to hack the game like folks hack FOF.
Ok, then again...maybe I'm not surprised.
EagleFan
12-17-2008, 11:13 PM
lol, weird, just weird.
Not in response to this clip but I have to say, Drew Carey sucks big time at hosting that show. He is way too dry to be a game show host. He worked okay in Who's Line because of the energy of the other people on the show but on his own it just doesn't work.
sabotai
12-17-2008, 11:19 PM
Reminds me of when someone did something similar for the game show Press Your Luck. He memorized the pattern of of the lights.
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thealmighty
12-17-2008, 11:27 PM
Reminds me how much Drew Carey sucks as a gameshow host.
Scoobz0202
12-17-2008, 11:33 PM
I read that they stopped shit for about 20 minutes because they knew he hit a perfect bid. Drew Carey knew he hit it before announcing, and knew it was because of an audience member, therefore, he wasn't happy.
Still shitty of him though. The game is made with audience participation being a part of the game.
thealmighty
12-17-2008, 11:34 PM
nondola...
maybe I should read the whole thread next time.
Axxon
12-17-2008, 11:38 PM
nondola...
maybe I should read the whole thread next time.
Shit, do we have to start marking all our non consecutive posts now?
Damn, why didn't I get the memo.
Oh yeah, nondola...
;)
thealmighty
12-17-2008, 11:41 PM
Pumpy said it would make me look really cool.
molson
12-17-2008, 11:51 PM
I didn't read the entire message board but how were the prices "memorized?" Do they use the same prizes for every show? That's pretty stupid.
Pumpy Tudors
12-18-2008, 12:03 AM
how did i get involved
Matthean
12-18-2008, 12:15 AM
I didn't read the entire message board but how were the prices "memorized?" Do they use the same prizes for every show?
The prizes are on a rotation. The board members on the forum even said the showcases were ripe for being picked right since the prizes had been shown numerous times. Some of the forum members even admit that they know certain tendencies like the final number in Ford vehicles, or the last numbers in computers, etc. Ted, the forum member who gave the numbers to the guy, even said he had his numbers down enough that it made him screw up for an earlier part of the show where the contestant followed his advice as well, but the numbers were off from their normal pattern.
PackerFanatic
12-18-2008, 08:13 AM
Haha, without knowing the story, you would think Drew just sucks.
Oh wait...
I do love Drew Carey, but you can't compete with Bob Barker. Not even close.
PackerFanatic
12-18-2008, 08:13 AM
Reminds me of when someone did something similar for the game show Press Your Luck. He memorized the pattern of of the lights.
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And this was a neat story too - I read an article on this somewhere.
Hurst2112
12-18-2008, 08:46 AM
Wasn't Billy Murray doing a movie about the Press Your Luck guy? That was years ago and I don't think it made it to production.
Young Drachma
12-18-2008, 08:51 AM
Haha, without knowing the story, you would think Drew just sucks.
Oh wait...
I do love Drew Carey, but you can't compete with Bob Barker. Not even close.
Agreed. I think most people would be crazy to want that job to begin with, given that following Bob Barker is just an impossible situation.
I've seen the show a few times or watched clips of it and I have to say, that Drew -- other than obviously still learning the games -- does a decent job. I don't really know if I can think of anyone would've been a better fit, who would've effectively wanted to make it their career for a while.
And that show doesn't lend itself to someone double dipping into a variety of other career exploits. I don't think he'll last more than a few years, but...really, maybe that's where CBS ought to send Katie Couric.
lol
Mizzou B-ball fan
12-18-2008, 09:02 AM
And this was a neat story too - I read an article on this somewhere.
There's actually a Wiki page on the Press Your Luck guy, Michael Larson. It's an interesting and terribly sad story. It details how he won, his fight to get the money from CBS, and his eventual downfall into other investments where he lost all of the money and ended up divorced. He died at age 49.......
Michael Larson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Larson)
And here's a 1994 interview of Larsen.....
http://www.xanfan.com/pressyourluck/larson.htm
kingnebwsu
12-18-2008, 09:51 AM
It's funny, because his brother was/is a teacher where I went to high school. I didn't find this out until years later.
Maple Leafs
12-18-2008, 10:13 AM
Even if you knew the exact prices, why would you guess exactly? Wouldn't it be smarter to give your self a $50 cushion, just in case?
Mustang
12-18-2008, 10:23 AM
Even if you knew the exact prices, why would you guess exactly? Wouldn't it be smarter to give your self a $50 cushion, just in case?
Ego
Young Drachma
12-18-2008, 10:37 AM
Even if you knew the exact prices, why would you guess exactly? Wouldn't it be smarter to give your self a $50 cushion, just in case?
Well in this guy's case, he was just being fed the information...and so, he probably didn't want to screw up.
What sucks is, that lady next to him was pretty close herself and would normally have won, so she totally got ripped off. What a day to go to the showcase.
Maple Leafs
12-18-2008, 10:40 AM
Well in this guy's case, he was just being fed the information...and so, he probably didn't want to screw up.
Yeah, I see that now. I thought the guy who won was the memorizer, but it was just somebody in the audience who he happened to listen to.
The audience guy says he actually realized an exact bid was a bad idea and tried to get the contestant to switch to a round number, but it was too late.
Mizzou B-ball fan
12-18-2008, 10:50 AM
Well in this guy's case, he was just being fed the information...and so, he probably didn't want to screw up.
What sucks is, that lady next to him was pretty close herself and would normally have won, so she totally got ripped off. What a day to go to the showcase.
A girl I went to college with had a rough experience on the Price Is Right. She spun the wheel first in her portion of the show and hit $1.00. Unfortunately, the last lady to spin also hit $1.00 and so they had a spin-off. She lost the spin-off. Tough way to lose since hitting $1.00 is usually an automatic win.
PackerFanatic
12-18-2008, 01:10 PM
There's actually a Wiki page on the Press Your Luck guy, Michael Larson. It's an interesting and terribly sad story. It details how he won, his fight to get the money from CBS, and his eventual downfall into other investments where he lost all of the money and ended up divorced. He died at age 49.......
Michael Larson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Larson)
And here's a 1994 interview of Larsen.....
SuperShow 8000: The Michael Larson Sweep (http://www.xanfan.com/pressyourluck/larson.htm)
Actually I am pretty sure that is where I read it (the Wiki)
Young Drachma
12-18-2008, 01:14 PM
A girl I went to college with had a rough experience on the Price Is Right. She spun the wheel first in her portion of the show and hit $1.00. Unfortunately, the last lady to spin also hit $1.00 and so they had a spin-off. She lost the spin-off. Tough way to lose since hitting $1.00 is usually an automatic win.
That totally sucks. Must be a glitch in the wheel when that happened, because really, two spins of $1.00 in a row? No way. Bob probably was there when they built that wheel and could tell you where it was gonna land before it landed. lol
Bad-example
12-18-2008, 02:36 PM
That totally sucks. Must be a glitch in the wheel when that happened, because really, two spins of $1.00 in a row? No way.
If you spin $1.00 and lose in spin-off, maybe Price is Right not your game.
Toddzilla
12-18-2008, 04:27 PM
If you spin $1.00 and lose in spin-off, maybe Price is Right not your game.EPIC
CU Tiger
12-18-2008, 05:22 PM
If you spin $1.00 and lose in spin-off, maybe Price is Right not your game.
No you spin again and hope for $2.00
Young Drachma
12-18-2008, 05:45 PM
If you spin $1.00 and lose in spin-off, maybe Price is Right not your game.
Win.
Karlifornia
12-18-2008, 05:49 PM
lol.....took me a second to get it
stevew
12-18-2008, 07:19 PM
Good work
kcchief19
12-18-2008, 09:08 PM
I'm calling bullshit. Granted, it's been a while since I've watch TPIR but how frequently do they include the same prize from the Showcase in a game where the "retail price" is reported? And wouldn't those prices change from time to time? They can't be the exact same price every time given price changes for travel and whatnot.
Plus, the guy claims to have helped other people win but hasn't hit the exacta before. It sounds like this guy is just a game show stalker who researched prices enough to probably get him with a few hundred dollars on most occasions and this time just got lucky that he hit and that the contestant heard him over the screaming of the rest of the morons in the audience.
For the record, I did try to get Terry to bid $23,500, as that would have still yielded a double showcase win and would not have caused any suspicions on anybody's part, but he went with the first bid I gave him instead. http://www.golden-road.net/Smileys/new/smil3dbd4d6422f04.gif.
This guy just sounds like a d-bag.
Buccaneer
12-18-2008, 10:17 PM
This got me started down a road tonight. I read the wiki on Michael Larson, then watched the full 5-part youtube. Amazing. Then that got me into watching all of those stupid game show moments videos. Lots and lots of crazy stuff, and very addicting.
EagleFan
12-18-2008, 10:38 PM
This got me started down a road tonight. I read the wiki on Michael Larson, then watched the full 5-part youtube. Amazing. Then that got me into watching all of those stupid game show moments videos. Lots and lots of crazy stuff, and very addicting.
Game shows have changed a hell of a lot since Bucc was young. Back then it was a colloseum, some christians and a handful of lions...
Tigercat
12-18-2008, 10:43 PM
Wasn't Billy Murray doing a movie about the Press Your Luck guy? That was years ago and I don't think it made it to production.
Yup, and he was going to play him. He had an appearance on Letterman where he was all bearded up for the part. But it was all Murray's project, and he apparently couldn't find the necessary funding for it.
Neuqua
12-18-2008, 11:07 PM
Game shows have changed a hell of a lot since Bucc was young. Back then it was a colloseum, some christians and a handful of lions...
Bucc being old jokes never fail to dissapoint me.
Pumpy Tudors
12-18-2008, 11:16 PM
Game Show Network had a pretty interesting special on the Press Your Luck guy a few years ago. I wonder if they'll ever air it again.
Rizon
12-19-2008, 01:19 PM
I don't get it. Isn't Drew Carey normally that boring?
sterlingice
12-20-2008, 02:06 PM
Game shows have changed a hell of a lot since Bucc was young. Back then it was a colloseum, some christians and a handful of lions...
Bucc being old jokes never fail to dissapoint me.
Never fail "to disappoint"?!? You mistyped never fail to "BE AWESOME!" :D
SI
sterlingice
12-20-2008, 02:13 PM
Game Show Network had a pretty interesting special on the Press Your Luck guy a few years ago. I wonder if they'll ever air it again.
I remember seeing that maybe a year or two ago because I hadn't heard of it before that. I used to love Press Your Luck when it was on. Whammy just isn't at all close
As an aside, I was flipping through stations a couple of months ago and saw Ken Jennings on "Are you smarter than a 5th grader?" That can't have been too much of a challenge for him- now "how many 5 year olds can you take"- that's more of a challenge to him ;)
SI
QuikSand
07-14-2010, 05:38 AM
Follow up in Esquire: Price Is Right Perfect Bid - How Terry Kniess Beat The Price Is Right - Esquire (http://www.esquire.com/features/impossible/price-is-right-perfect-bid-0810)
Shkspr
07-14-2010, 08:28 AM
Huh. Turns out blackjack his game after all.
Maple Leafs
07-14-2010, 10:18 AM
So according to Terry, he knew the final showcase was worth around $23,000, and he just added on the $743 randomly.
That makes no sense. Even putting aside the luck factor, why would you add on hundreds of dollars to your bid in a game where going over by even a dollar loses you everything? For a math guy who can crush blackjack, he either forgot everything he knew about game theory or he's lying.
I liked this whole story a lot better before I read that article.
Logan
07-14-2010, 10:24 AM
That part was fishy to me too. Especially when, I believe later on, his wife said something like "If he had just said $23,700 none of this would have happened."
If he chose 743 because it was some combination of his wife's PIN and wedding date, why would he have chosen 700?
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