View Full Version : A major league baseball team in New Jersey would never, ever work. Ever. (OOTP9)
Young Drachma
03-07-2009, 12:01 AM
INTRODUCTION
At the end of the 2005 season, Major League Baseball officials, pleased with the success of the Washington Nationals in their first season in Washington, D.C., decided to engage in discussions with an ownership group in Portland, Oregon at a possible expansion franchise in that city to start in 2009.
Commissioner Bud Selig was convinced that in order to keep up with the success of the National Football League and to deflect criticism from talk of performance enhancing drugs in the sport, that the league needed to expand to eight playoff teams in each league.
"Now is the time for this. Our fans will understand that baseball is unlike any other game in the world. We're the national pasttime. But in an era of competitiveness, fans want to know their team has a chance to compete. We need to find a way to level the playing field in a way that befits the sports proud history, doesn't cheapen it and yet, allows our fans to be excited about the game from Opening Day to the close of the World Series." - Commissioner's press conference during the 2005 All-Star Game.
After getting commitments from Oregon officials that they could get a stadium financed as early as 2010 in downtown Portland. The ownership group would include an investment group from San Francisco led by W.H. Larsen and John Hatfield, a prominent attorney from Boston.
The only problem? There was no second team to join them.
Major League officials scrambled into action to find an ownership group that had not just the deep pockets, but a market where they wanted to go.
Cities considered included San Antonio, Riverside (CA), Charlotte and finally, someone asked the question that the Commissioner had thought about for years, but wasn't sure if it was time... "What about Jersey, sir?"
Selig had grown up on baseball rivalries between the Yankees and Red Sox, Giants and Dodgers in New York City. He knew a third team in New York couldn't happen -- though he was almost willing to try it -- but after placing a league-owned baseball team 38 miles from Baltimore and after winning a lawsuit filed by Orioles owner Peter Angelos stating that television markets were league assets -- not team ones -- he knew that any move could likely stand up to legal scrutiny.
Peter Angelos, the owner of the Baltimore Orioles of MLB, felt that the 2005 move of the Montreal Expos to Washington DC was an infringement on his exclusive territory. Angelos claimed that the Orioles’
territory included parts of Pennsylvania, Maryland, Virginia, West Virginia, Delaware, Washington D.C. and North Carolina (Angelos, 2006). But MLB officials argued that television territories are the property
of MLB.
"You can't go claiming territory in three or four states away. You get your city and your traditional market. But trying to claim a team from nowhere infringes on your brand. It might make good business sense, but it fails the common sense test, that's for sure," said Sandy Alderson, who is the Commissioner's deputy.
They had a powerful ally on the owners committee in Oakland A's owner Lew Wolff who had long seen the day when a team would play again in the tri-state area. "I think it's a great thing for baseball if we could make that happen again."
Now, to find a suitable owner to make the dream happen.
It turned out, they didn't have to look far to make it happen.
Young Drachma
03-07-2009, 12:10 AM
Bud Selig's wishes came true when a dot-com billionaire, a young man by the name of D.C. Mitchell came to his rescue.
Mitchell, 32, had been on record many times as saying how much he loved baseball. "I can barely stand it. There's no team in my home state. So I just root for the team in Toronto. But man, if there was a Jersey team, that'd be unreal."
He'd founded a startup that was later acquired by Google, invested money in several startups as a venture capitalist and struck it big. He still worked on projects, but was looking for something else to "get his hands into."
That's when he got a call from W.H. Larsen, who was actually a childhood friend of his.
"Hey D.C., man, I've got the deal of the century for you."
"What's that? Prostitutes?"
::laughs:: "No man, I told you about that. I'm a changed man. ::clears throat:: Anyway, Selig wants another owner."
"For what? Your ballclub? I love you man, but I can't move to Portland and watch rainy day baseball."
"No, man. Your team."
"Uh what? Those guys won't let me put a baseball team in Jersey. Would they?"
"Selig seems to think that after Angelos lost on the Nats, that he can do what he wants. He's fuckin' Ironman. He thinks it'd work and he wanted me to call and test you out and see if you were up for the fight."
"Fight? Shit. Fuck the Yankees. The Mets too. Do they know who I am?"
"No, probably not."
"Well, I'll make a few calls."
It was that day, that Major League Baseball headed to New Jersey for the first time since the Dodgers played a few games in Jersey City.
Young Drachma
03-07-2009, 12:17 AM
November 1, 2005
Major League Baseball announces that two new clubs will join the American League in 2009: Portland, Oregon and New Jersey. The owners voted on the proposal last week after the World Series and the final vote was 26-3. (Mets, Yankees and Phillies voted against the proposal. Orioles did not vote.)
"This is a huge day for New Jersey baseball," said New Jersey owner D.C. Mitchell, who became baseball's first black owner with the deal.
When asked whether he expected lawsuits from New York's teams, "Well I don't know. But whatever they decide to do, we'll deal with it then. We just look forward to beating them on the field in a few years, so they'd better enjoy the monopoly they've got for a little while longer."
Mitchell said that the team was investigating several locations for a potential stadium. With a potential lawsuit hanging over the team's head, it was rumored that he was considering putting the team closer to Southern New Jersey, on the Atlantic Coast rather than closer to New York City in places like Newark or Plainfield, both on the direct rail line towards the city.
"We're not trying to get closer to New York. There are more than enough people here [in New Jersey] to support this ballclub. Make no mistake."
The team will unveil its nickname at a press conference later this month, said Mitchell, who said he hopes to have a ballclub site picked out in the next 4-6 months. "It can be hard to make these sorts of things happen in New Jersey. But lawmakers are receptive to it, especially since we're looking to build the only privately financed stadium on the east coast and only the 2nd in baseball since Pac Bell Park. We're not trying to cost the taxpayers anything, because we want them as fans."
Young Drachma
03-07-2009, 01:44 AM
EBBETS FIELD TO BE INSPIRATION FOR NEW BALLPARK
While New Jersey's new team doesn't have a name yet and isn't sure where their new ballpark will be, the team's stadium has been designed in a model, that was displayed today at a reception held by the ballclub in Elizabeth, New Jersey -- a location not rumored to be considered by the team to host the team.
"We wanted to echo Ebbets Field, a real iconic place, while giving it modern touches as well," said D.C. Mitchell, the owner of the team. The privately financed ballpark would be ready for the 2009 season and would likely include some measure of real estate and other developments, but Mitchell said "the scale of those investments will really depend on where we end up."
He did, however, announce the candidate cities for the team.
Asbury Park
South Plainfield
Keansburg
The emphasis was on a location that 1) would offer up enough land or that could be acquired and that was 2) on or near a major rail line, to ease traffic heading into the towns on game day.
Each of those towns lack the major tax bases of other towns that could've been considered, but most were "too nice" to really work for a long-term solution.
South Plainfield, for its part, tried to woo the Brooklyn Dodgers back in 1957. The town, formerly known as New Brooklyn, sent a letter to Walter O'Malley asking him to consider the town, which at the time was largely open land. South Plainfield doesn't have rail access, but is connected to the Garden State Parkway, near the Turnpike and I-287.
http://www.walteromalley.com/images/docu/09_11_1957_baldwin.jpg
Asbury Park is near the home of the state's 3rd largest newspaper (which is based in Neptune) the Asbury Park Press. The city is looking to redevelop its once prominent waterfront and boardwalk, but has been cahoots with casinos in order to do that, a big no-no for MLB. Despite that, the city has made a huge play to get a ballpark built there and the ownership group is considering them heavily.
Keansburg is a dark horse. A small, lakeside town of about 10,000, the town is home to a small amusement park and an otherwise undeveloped boardwalk and waterfront area. City officials, who see the project as part of a large redevelopment effort have pitched their location as the perfect spot for the team. No rail access here, either.
So we have two towns without the coveted rail access, each with unique benefits and each that poses unique challenges. But they're the options that the team has to deal with going forward.
"We knew this wouldn't be a open and shut case. We'd have to work for it and we're willing to do that to bring major league baseball to the Garden State," said Mitchell.
Young Drachma
03-07-2009, 02:18 AM
http://www.oregonstadiumcampaign.com/images/stadium/render_lg.gif
Here's a artists rendition of REI Field, the home of the Portland Beavers, the other expansion club joining the MLB fray with New Jersey in 2009. It will have 34,415 seats when it's finished, the smallest ballpark in the majors, though New Jersey is likely to be smaller, by design according to team officials.
MLB decided today that the 2009 season will realign the American League slightly, with Toronto moving to the AL Central -- a spot they were offered in 1994 to preserve the Tigers-Yankees rivalry, but declined -- and the New Jersey team will join the AL East and Portland to the west to form a rivalry with the Mariners.
AMERICAN LEAGUE
EAST
Baltimore
Boston
New Jersey
New York
Tampa
CENTRAL
Chicago
Cleveland
Detroit
Kansas City
Minnesota
Toronto
WEST
Los Angeles
Oakland
Portland
Seattle
Texas
NATIONAL LEAGUE
EAST
Atlanta
Florida
New York
Philadelphia
Washington
CENTRAL
Chicago
Cincinnati
Houston
Milwaukee
Pittsburgh
St. Louis
WEST
Arizona
Colorado
LA Dodgers
San Diego
San Francisco
PLAYOFF expansion will also happen that season, with the number of wild cards increasing in each league from 1 to 5, something that's leaving many baseball pursuits agog with fury. "They're desecrating the game!" Meanwhile, Commissioner Bud Selig has said that "this is just a reality of the way sports are played these days and we're confident that the best teams in baseball will be represented in our post-season, which we think is the best in the world."
Young Drachma
03-07-2009, 02:27 AM
NEW JERSEY WELCOMES THE PILOTS
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc113/Dynasty_DC/bombers2_10_1.png
New Jersey's baseball team will be called the New Jersey Pilots, after a name-the-team contest for the club yielded over 5,000 replies on the a web site created by the team.
"We had an amazing response and we love that our fans will be able to root for their very own Pilots, as part of our Flight Crew. We can't do it without them," said D.C. Mitchell, the team's owner.
Finalists included Sea Gulls, Goldfinches, Atlantics and Bears.
PilotMan
03-07-2009, 06:44 AM
Pilot's sounds good to me.
Young Drachma
03-07-2009, 12:48 PM
Pilots pick Keansburg as the site for their new ballpark
KEANSBURG -- A town on the Raritan Bay, Keansburg has been a town that's never been home to much good news. But with the news that Major League Baseball is coming to town in 2009, city officials have rejoiced that their longshot bid at the new American League entry has been accepted.
"We thought, in the end, that they gave us the best chance to thrive and so, we're looking forward to working with the people of Keansburg to provide the best, most unique baseball experience in the majors," said Vance Mitchell, the general counsel of the New Jersey Pilots and brother of D.C. Mitchell, the team's owner.
The team's plan is a redevelopment project that calls for about $375 million of building projects along the Raritan Bay shoreline in the city of 11,000, which would undoubtedly become the smallest city to host a major league team, but as part of a Central Jersey region of 3.3 million people.
The team's stadium will be a $265 million stadium, paid for through $135 million of naming rights, sponsorships and other corporate agreements. The signature naming rights package is through George Weston Limited, a Canadian company which will place the name Entenmann's Field, the rest will be financed by D.C. Mitchell privately.
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc113/Dynasty_DC/entenmannsstadium.png
The stadium will be the smallest ballpark in the majors, with only 30,042 seats. The adjacent Ballpark Village will be connected by rail to the New Jersey Transit "Jersey Coast Line" which is now about 4 miles away from the site of the new ballpark, but lobbying by local lawmakers and others committed to the project agreed to add rail service to the community.
"We want to make it as fan-friendly as possible for people to attend games, but we also want to be mindful of the community and being good neighbors."
Other infrastructure improvements and local spending through state and local revenue sources will tally about $35 million, but private developers will acquire several acres of land surrounding the stadium to build a Ballpark Village which will contain condos, restaurants and other amenities aimed at creating a community within the community.
"This is aimed at attracting the next generation," said Keansburg mayor Doug Bekins.
The project is expected to create 600-800 temporary and permanent jobs, though independent operators who own the amusement park booths where the stadium will be built, are howling.
"We took care of this place when no one else wanted it. Now they want to kick us out? It's not right to hurt the little guy," said Kazmir Theocropolous, an immigrant businessman who says that his company is likely to do work in the new ballpark, though an amusement area that will be retained.
"It'll be the first ballpark in the country to have a Ferris Wheel and a roller coaster. We're offering fans a unique entertainment experience, while providing them major baseball on the Jersey Shore," said D.C. Mitchell about the project.
Keansburg (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/21/realestate/21njzo.html) is about 52 miles from Yankee Stadium and 54 miles from Shea Stadium in Queens and Mitchell said that he expects to meet with officials from both teams at MLB headquarters sometime in the next two weeks.
"The vote has already occurred and we believe the precedent has been set from the move of the Nationals to Baltimore, which was less than 35 miles away. We don't expect legal action, because the Commissioner has spoken, but we'll find some solution that works."
Construction on the new park will start sometime this summer.
Young Drachma
03-07-2009, 01:10 PM
PILOTS SIGN AGREEMENT BARRING THEM FROM OWNING A REGIONAL TELEVISION NETWORK
The Mets and Yankees ownership met with the Commissioner Bud Selig, to express their concern at a third team entering their market less than 60 miles away from their ballparks.
The Yankees own the YES network and the Mets will launch a channel in 2006, but worried that if the Pilots were allowed to create a regional sports network in New Jersey, that it would affect them negatively.
"We've invested in this market for many, many years and we believe their existence infringes on our rights," said Yankees owner George Steinbrenner.
But Commissioner Selig disagreed. "This has historically been a three-team baseball market and save for a few moves fifty or so years ago, it would have remained so. As a result, I don't really buy the argument that a third team with no pedigree, no players and no history can really surpass their brands. But we have an agree and it works for all of the parties involved."
The Pilots are rumored to be in talks with MSG Network to broadcast the team's games starting in 2009.
Young Drachma
03-07-2009, 01:55 PM
EXPANSION DRAFT
The hardest part of expansion draft strategy is deciding whether we want to be aggressive and contend early or if it's smarter to build a team and work our way into the hearts of our fans over time.
While it's going to be important to bring in guys who have "names" that fans can readily identify with and to paint a picture that "we are serious" it's also important to remember that we have to build for the long haul.
So we're trying to be deliberate in our moves.
Some of the players available in the expansion draft included big names like Derek Jeter (probably due to his contract) and Ken Griffey Jr.
I'm running this in 2009, using Cubbyfan latest roster set released early last week.
Young Drachma
03-07-2009, 01:56 PM
Here are the first nine rounds:
Round 9
Round 9, Pick 1 - Portland Beavers: SP J. Campillo
Round 9, Pick 2 - New Jersey Pilots: SP A. Heilman
Round 8
Round 8, Pick 31 - New Jersey Pilots: RF D. Brown
Round 8, Pick 32 - Portland Beavers: LF G. Kapler
Round 7
Round 7, Pick 1 - Portland Beavers: 3B B. Wallace
Round 7, Pick 2 - New Jersey Pilots: SS J. Lowrie
Round 6
Round 6, Pick 31 - New Jersey Pilots: MR H. Okajima
Round 6, Pick 32 - Portland Beavers: SP J. Niese
Round 5
Round 5, Pick 1 - Portland Beavers: C B. Posey
Round 5, Pick 2 - New Jersey Pilots: SP D. McGowan
Round 4
Round 4, Pick 31 - New Jersey Pilots: SP J. Weaver
Round 4, Pick 32 - Portland Beavers: SP A. Pettitte
Round 3
Round 3, Pick 1 - Portland Beavers: 1B L. Anderson
Round 3, Pick 2 - New Jersey Pilots: 3B M. Gamel
Round 2
Round 2, Pick 31 - New Jersey Pilots: RF A. Cunningham
Round 2, Pick 32 - Portland Beavers: CF J. Schafer
Round 1
Round 1, Pick 1 - Portland Beavers: RF J. Heyward
Round 1, Pick 2 - New Jersey Pilots: CF J. Ellsbury
Young Drachma
03-07-2009, 01:58 PM
Rounds 10-19 and the rest is just meh.
Round 19
Round 19, Pick 1 - Portland Beavers: MR C. Meredith
Round 19, Pick 2 - New Jersey Pilots: C L. Marson
Round 18
Round 18, Pick 31 - New Jersey Pilots: MR J. Accardo
Round 18, Pick 32 - Portland Beavers: C M. Montero
Round 17
Round 17, Pick 1 - Portland Beavers: MR M. Delcarmen
Round 17, Pick 2 - New Jersey Pilots: SS D. Jeter
Round 16
Round 16, Pick 31 - New Jersey Pilots: SP C. Richard
Round 16, Pick 32 - Portland Beavers: CL C. Perez
Round 15
Round 15, Pick 1 - Portland Beavers: MR J. Lannan
Round 15, Pick 2 - New Jersey Pilots: 2B F. Lopez
Round 14
Round 14, Pick 31 - New Jersey Pilots: RF E. Byrnes
Round 14, Pick 32 - Portland Beavers: MR M. Pelfrey
Round 13
Round 13, Pick 1 - Portland Beavers: CL P. Coke
Round 13, Pick 2 - New Jersey Pilots: LF K. Griffey Jr.
Round 12
Round 12, Pick 31 - New Jersey Pilots: LF A. Lambo
Round 12, Pick 32 - Portland Beavers: SP A. Sonnanstine
Round 11
Round 11, Pick 1 - Portland Beavers: 2B A. Cardenas
Round 11, Pick 2 - New Jersey Pilots: 1B L. Morrison
Round 10
Round 10, Pick 31 - New Jersey Pilots: C B. Lawrie
Round 10, Pick 32 - Portland Beavers: SS C. Rivero
We couldn't resist taking Jeter. We weren't supposed to, the salary wasn't on our radar and we'll have to trade him back to New York, as he doesn't want to play for us and the Yankees would rather him not go somewhere else.
But I think it was just a powerplay on their parts, as they probably wouldn't have objected to him going to Portland, but knew they'd never try to offer him a deal, as they're just not going to spend much right now and we're going to have to with 3 teams surrounding us.
A few trades were made after draft, that I'll chronicle when I'm done.
Young Drachma
03-07-2009, 02:39 PM
DECIDING TO BE COMPETITIVE
Here are our post-expansion draft deals.
The Jeter deal is a signature one. I don't really know why they left him exposed. In real life, we know that wouldn't happen. But alas, this ain't real life.
Traded 22-year old minor league starting pitcher P. Hughes, 29-year old minor league starting pitcher K. Igawa, 24-year old minor league starting pitcher I. Kennedy and 23-year old minor league closer M. Melancon to the New Jersey Pilots, getting 34-year old shortstop D. Jeter and 22-year old minor league starting pitcher P. Alemán in return.
Traded 39-year old left fielder K. Griffey Jr, 20-year old left fielder A. Lambo and 30-year old starting pitcher A. Heilman to the Seattle Mariners, getting 35-year old right fielder I. Suzuki, 32-year old catcher K. Johjima in and 29-year old starting pitcher E. Bedard in return.
We took their dead weight in contracts, which frees them to start rebuilding and gives us a shot to see if those guys can be contributors out of the chute. Really, we thought the marketing power of Ichiro, even if he's in his late 30s, was well worth the cost of his contract.
Traded 21-year old first baseman L. Morrison, 23-year old shortstop D. Barker, 17-year old minor league starting pitcher M. Perez and 26-year old minor league shortstop R. Santos to the Colorado Rockies, getting 35-year old first baseman T. Helton and 29-year old shortstop C. Barmes in return.
In a separate deal, we sent Eric Byrnes to Colorado.
Traded 32-year old right fielder E. Byrnes and 27-year old starting pitcher J. de la Rosa to the Colorado Rockies, getting 32-year old minor league left fielder S. Podsednik, 26-year old minor league left fielder S. Smith, 22-year old minor league starting pitcher F. Morales and 25-year old reliever H. Street in return.
The real story here? Contending. Now.
We've got the real pieces the puzzle and so, we're going to attempt to join the fray of area teams that have won titles. Philadelphia won last year, the Yankees haven't won since 2000 and the Mets are still thinking of '86.
Our gamble is that the momentum of success on the Jersey Shore, will bolster the team's prospects and create fans out of the next generation of baseball fans in Jersey, who are happy to have a team in their own backyard. If it doesn't work? Well, we'll have to work it out some other way.
Young Drachma
03-07-2009, 03:14 PM
Here's where team payrolls are after the expansion draft:
Rank Team Payroll
1 New York Yankees $207,577,500
2 New York Mets $141,207,000
3 Chicago Cubs $135,915,000
4 Philadelphia Phillies $121,431,300
5 Boston Red Sox $119,127,308
6 Los Angeles Angels $116,870,000
7 Detroit Tigers $115,020,000
8 Houston Astros $99,845,000
9 Los Angeles Dodgers $98,246,000
10 Chicago White Sox $94,145,000
11 St. Louis Cardinals $92,750,000
12 Atlanta Braves $88,245,000
13 Toronto Blue Jays $85,097,500
14 Cleveland Indians $84,742,800
15 Milwaukee Brewers $82,106,500
16 Kansas City Royals $81,728,500
17 New Jersey Pilots $79,722,450
18 Texas Rangers $78,060,000
19 Cincinnati Reds $76,829,500
20 San Francisco Giants $75,285,000
21 Baltimore Orioles $73,926,000
22 Colorado Rockies $65,233,000
23 Minnesota Twins $63,608,100
24 Tampa Bay Rays $61,991,650
25 Arizona Diamondbacks $61,508,000
26 Oakland Athletics $57,310,000
27 Seattle Mariners $57,055,150
28 Washington Nationals $52,643,500
29 Pittsburgh Pirates $51,499,308
30 San Diego Padres $41,918,308
31 Florida Marlins $38,515,000
32 Portland Beavers $16,936,500
Young Drachma
03-07-2009, 03:19 PM
We don't really have much wiggle room, at this point. We could spend another $20 million in theory, but I didn't intend to jump out of the gate, as we're already the 3rd top spending team in the AL East after the Yankees and Red Sox.
I think we've pretty much got our squad, I've got a few offers out on some depth veterans, but we're ready for our first season I think, for better or worse.
The season starts in mid-March, 162-game season with interleague (home and away) against another division in the other league. This year is E/E C/C and W/W.
Regular season ends to give a week of playoffs in September. I'm still wrestling with the playoff format, considering post-poning the expansion of post-season for another year and keeping it status quo.
Young Drachma
03-07-2009, 03:24 PM
Name 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018
Ichiro Suzuki $17.0m $17.0m $17.0m $17.0m
Todd Helton $16.6m $16.6m $19.1m $23.0m
Erik Bedard $7.8m
Kenji Johjima $5.2m
Huston Street $4.5m $3.6m(A) $3.6m(A) $3.6m(A)
Kei Igawa $4.0m $4.0m $4.0m $3.3m(A) $3.3m(A) $3.3m(A)
Tim Wakefield $4.0m $4.0m
Felipe Lopez $3.5m
Casey Kotchman $2.9m $2.3m(A) $2.3m(A)
Luke Scott $2.4m $4.5m(A) $4.5m(A) $4.5m(A)
Nomar Garciaparra $2.0m $2.2m
Hideki Okajima $1.8m $400k $2.0m(A) $2.0m(A) $2.0m(A)
Clint Barmes $1.6m
Pedro Martinez $1.5m
Jeremy Accardo $900k $1.3m(A) $1.3m(A) $1.3m(A)
Manny Corpas $750k $2.8m $3.5m $6.0m $620k(A)
Barry Zito $750k $750k $1.1m
Jered Weaver $435k $400k $1.7m(A) $1.7m(A) $1.7m(A)
James Loney $411k $400k $4.0m(A) $4.0m(A) $4.0m(A)
Phil Hughes $406k $400k $400k $794k(A) $794k(A) $794k(A)
Jacoby Ellsbury $406k $400k $400k $2.6m(A) $2.6m(A) $2.6m(A)
Dustin McGowan $404k $1.8m(A) $1.8m(A) $1.8m(A)
Jerry Blevins $400k $400k $400k $1.2m(A) $1.2m(A) $1.2m(A)
Aaron Cunningham $400k $400k $400k $400k $558k(A) $558k(A) $558k(A)
Mat Gamel $400k $400k $400k $400k $666k(A) $666k(A) $666k(A)
Ian Kennedy $400k $400k $400k $400k(A) $400k(A) $400k(A)
Jed Lowrie $400k $400k $400k $788k(A) $788k(A) $788k(A)
Lou Marson $400k $400k $400k $400k $576k(A) $576k(A) $576k(A)
Franklin Morales $400k $400k $400k $400k(A) $400k(A) $400k(A)
David Purcey $400k $400k $400k $400k $552k(A) $552k(A) $552k(A)
Max Ramirez $400k $400k $400k $400k $1.0m(A) $1.0m(A) $1.0m(A)
Clayton Richard $400k $400k $400k $400k $600k(A) $600k(A) $600k(A)
Seth Smith $400k $400k $400k $788k(A) $788k(A) $788k(A)
TOTAL $83.5m $67.2m $71.0m $77.5m $22.5m $14.3m $4.0m
Wolfpack
03-07-2009, 03:37 PM
Interesting. Why the six-division alignment for 32 teams? I'd have thought eight of four would be possible. Playoffs would have been a hoot with 16 teams by replicating the NHL and having division finals. Imagine the Yanks and Boston (or New Jersey) going at it for years on end. Or the Cubs and Cards. Think they don't like each other now? :D
Young Drachma
03-07-2009, 03:55 PM
Interesting. Why the six-division alignment for 32 teams? I'd have thought eight of four would be possible. Playoffs would have been a hoot with 16 teams by replicating the NHL and having division finals. Imagine the Yanks and Boston (or New Jersey) going at it for years on end. Or the Cubs and Cards. Think they don't like each other now? :D
I have a generally difficult time with four-team divisions in baseball.
But now that you say that..I never thought about the divisional finals, because it's been so long since the NHL did it. But you know, that's actually a really good idea!
It'll make the 16-team playoffs easier to swallow long-term, too.
We're going to run 2009 as normal and we won't expand the playoffs until 2010 though.
Young Drachma
03-07-2009, 04:25 PM
To up the ante a bit, too, I'm going to use MarketCalc8 (http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/board/ootp-9-mods/156624-dark-clouds-financial-market-model-version-1-0-a-4.html#post2453492) to determine the team's financials. That way, I can't just write fake blank checks forever to keep the team going.
MarketCalc9 (http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/board/database-tools/168006-market-size-calculator-ootp9.html) will determine the team's market size number in the game (it's a 8, using Edison NJ as the team's sub-DMA)
Our numbers break down like this:
Projected budget room: $14,048,266
Fan Loyalty: Non-existent
Fan Interest: 94
Market size: Big
I might try to shed a few contracts before we get started or do so at mid-season, depending on how we're doing. But we really don't want to cram too much more under things this year, though it'd be great to contend this year, that seems a bit unlikely.
Young Drachma
03-07-2009, 06:43 PM
OPENING DAY PAYROLL (2009)
Rank Team Payroll
1 New York Yankees $206,127,500
2 New York Mets $141,265,000
3 Chicago Cubs $135,515,000
4 Philadelphia Phillies $121,431,300
5 Los Angeles Angels $117,270,000
6 Detroit Tigers $115,420,000
7 Boston Red Sox $112,727,308
8 Houston Astros $100,245,000
9 Los Angeles Dodgers $98,246,000
10 Chicago White Sox $97,305,000
11 St. Louis Cardinals $94,810,000
12 San Francisco Giants $93,285,000
13 Toronto Blue Jays $92,257,500
14 Cleveland Indians $91,942,800
15 Atlanta Braves $90,495,000
16 Cincinnati Reds $84,614,500
17 Milwaukee Brewers $81,706,500
18 Kansas City Royals $78,928,500
19 Texas Rangers $77,660,000
20 New Jersey Pilots $77,552,450
21 Baltimore Orioles $70,901,000
22 Colorado Rockies $65,233,000
23 Minnesota Twins $63,208,100
24 Arizona Diamondbacks $61,508,000
25 Tampa Bay Rays $61,191,650
26 Seattle Mariners $57,795,150
27 Oakland Athletics $57,310,000
28 Washington Nationals $54,253,500
29 Pittsburgh Pirates $51,899,308
30 San Diego Padres $42,668,308
31 Florida Marlins $37,315,000
32 Portland Beavers $36,796,500
Here are the top farm systems in MLB:
Minor League Systems
# Team Points Top 5 Prospects
1st Portland Beavers 179 RF J. Heyward (8th), CF J. Schafer (21st), 1B L. Anderson (22nd), RF M. Stanton (33rd), C B. Posey (40th)
2nd Texas Rangers 137 P N. Feliz (4th), P D. Holland (6th), 1B J. Smoak (17th), SS E. Andrus (36th), C T. Teagarden (90th)
3rd Oakland Athletics 85 P B. Anderson (9th), P T. Cahill (11th), P M. Ynoa (56th), P G. Gonzalez (98th)
4th Colorado Rockies 84 CF D. Fowler (16th), P M. Perez (28th), 1B L. Morrison (39th), P J. Chacin (49th), P C. Friedrich (93rd)
5th Toronto Blue Jays 81 LF T. Snider (12th), P B. Cecil (23rd), C J. Arencibia (35th), SS J. Jackson (80th)
6th San Francisco Giants 81 P M. Bumgarner (14th), P T. Alderson (15th), 1B A. Villalona (42nd)
7th New Jersey Pilots 77 RF A. Cunningham (26th), RF D. Brown (44th), C L. Marson (53rd), CF A. Jackson (60th), C M. Ramirez (65th)
8th Tampa Bay Rays 76 P D. Price (2nd), SS T. Beckham (46th), P W. Davis (51st)
9th Baltimore Orioles 73 C M. Wieters (1st), P C. Tillman (30th)
10th Chicago White Sox 71 SS G. Beckham (13th), 3B D. Viciedo (25th), P A. Poreda (45th)
11th St. Louis Cardinals 71 CF C. Rasmus (10th), P J. Todd (38th), P J. Garcia (59th), C B. Anderson (79th)
12th Florida Marlins 64 CF C. Maybin (3rd), C K. Skipworth (70th), 3B M. Dominguez (89th), P R. Tucker (92nd)
13th Kansas City Royals 48 3B M. Moustakas (24th), 1B E. Hosmer (47th), P D. Cortes (81st), P T. Melville (88th), P D. Duffy (96th)
14th Atlanta Braves 46 P T. Hanson (18th), 1B F. Freeman (50th), CF G. Hernandez (83rd)
15th New York Mets 45 LF F. Martinez (27th), SS W. Flores (29th)
16th Detroit Tigers 45 P R. Porcello (5th)
17th Los Angeles Angels 40 P N. Adenhart (41st), P J. Walden (63rd), CF P. Bourjos (66th), P T. Reckling (68th)
18th Washington Nationals 40 P J. Zimmerman (7th)
19th Philadelphia Phillies 40 P C. Carrasco (19th), P D. Naylor (71st), P J. Knapp (76th)
20th Minnesota Twins 37 CF A. Hicks (32nd), CF B. Revere (37th)
21st Cincinnati Reds 27 1B Y. Alonso (20th)
22nd Arizona Diamondbacks 23 P J. Parker (48th), CF G. Parra (62nd)
23rd Seattle Mariners 22 CF G. Halman (34th), P J. Ramirez (86th)
24th Milwaukee Brewers 19 SS A. Escobar (31st)
25th Cleveland Indians 18 P D. Huff (58th), C C. Santana (69th), 1B B. Mills (100th)
26th New York Yankees 18 C J. Montero (52nd), P A. Brackman (73rd)
27th Chicago Cubs 16 3B J. Vitters (55th), P D. Rhee (74th)
28th Pittsburgh Pirates 15 CF A. McCutchen (43rd)
29th Boston Red Sox 14 P M. Bowden (57th), CF R. Westmoreland (87th)
30th San Diego Padres 7 1B K. Blanks (75th), P M. Latos (99th)
31st Houston Astros 6 C J. Castro (77th)
32nd Los Angeles Dodgers 0
Young Drachma
03-07-2009, 06:55 PM
Well, a month in and we're not the worst team in the league. I'd hope not, given how much money we've spent to get this operation up and going. I'm going to try to find a reporting style that works for this, because it's been a while since I've done one of these.
STANDINGS AS OF MAY 1, 2009
American League Standings
Eastern Division W L PCT GB
Tampa Bay Rays 22 14 .611 -
Baltimore Orioles 22 15 .595 .5
New Jersey Pilots 17 18 .486 4.5
New York Yankees 18 19 .486 4.5
Boston Red Sox 16 20 .444 6.0
Central Division W L PCT GB
Detroit Tigers 21 14 .600 -
Toronto Blue Jays 21 15 .583 .5
Minnesota Twins 19 16 .543 2.0
Cleveland Indians 18 17 .514 3.0
Kansas City Royals 17 19 .472 4.5
Chicago White Sox 14 21 .400 7.0
Western Division W L PCT GB
Seattle Mariners 19 16 .543 -
Portland Beavers 18 18 .500 1.5
Texas Rangers 16 20 .444 3.5
Oakland Athletics 15 21 .417 4.5
Los Angeles Angels 13 23 .361 6.5
National League Standings
Eastern Division W L PCT GB
Philadelphia Phillies 25 12 .676 -
New York Mets 22 13 .629 2.0
Atlanta Braves 21 16 .568 4.0
Florida Marlins 19 17 .528 5.5
Washington Nationals 17 19 .472 7.5
Central Division W L PCT GB
St. Louis Cardinals 23 13 .639 -
Milwaukee Brewers 19 17 .528 4.0
Pittsburgh Pirates 17 18 .486 5.5
Cincinnati Reds 16 19 .457 6.5
Chicago Cubs 15 20 .429 7.5
Houston Astros 12 23 .343 10.5
Western Division W L PCT GB
San Diego Padres 18 17 .514 -
San Francisco Giants 17 19 .472 1.5
Arizona Diamondbacks 16 20 .444 2.5
Los Angeles Dodgers 15 21 .417 3.5
Colorado Rockies 14 22 .389 4.5
Young Drachma
03-07-2009, 07:02 PM
I cut Kenji Johjima at the beginning of the season and after a month, released both Tim Wakefield and Pedro Martinez. I brought up two youngsters and we'll see how that goes for us. It's not even about money, it's about seeing whether the team can get a spark. I doubt we'll be playoff bound, only 4 spots this last year and we're not really built for it, but..I'd like to see us be competitive anyway.
So far we're 28th in the majors in attendance, ahead of Kansas City, San Diego, Baltimore and Pittsburgh. But we're 12th in gate revenue just behind the Mets, because our average ticket price is pretty high, given the small stadium size. I wonder if we start winning if that'll change.
Young Drachma
03-08-2009, 12:59 PM
PILOTS MAKE WAVES, SIGN SHEETS
Despite being injured, the New Jersey Pilots signed Ben Sheets to a 2-year deal worth $14.5 million in mid-June, to bolster their rotation for a possible playoff run.
"We think he's going to coming back stronger than ever and so, we decided to make this proactive move and he's happy to join us," said D.C. Mitchell.
But the move the team made after signing sheets, rocked baseball.
Saying he wanted a "swan song" after all of the controversial swirling his alleged use of performance enhancing drugs, Roger Clemens caused a circus when he agreed to a one-year, pro-rated deal at $6.4 million to pitch the rest of the season for the Pilots.
"The New York area has always been good to me. The fans are the best and I look forward to helping this team get to the post-season. It'd be the way to go out," he said.
If -- and it's big if -- Clemens and Sheets can perform well, it'll give the Pilots a shot in the arm (no pun intended) down the stretch.
Clemens will make his first start sometime in July, while Sheets is expected to join the team later that month, if his rehab continues to go well.
Young Drachma
03-08-2009, 01:00 PM
STANDINGS AS OF JULY 20, 2009
American League Standings
Eastern Division W L PCT GB
Tampa Bay Rays 64 41 .610 -
Baltimore Orioles 60 46 .566 4.5
New York Yankees 59 48 .551 6.0
New Jersey Pilots 56 49 .533 8.0
Boston Red Sox 45 61 .425 19.5
Central Division W L PCT GB
Toronto Blue Jays 57 48 .543 -
Detroit Tigers 52 53 .495 5.0
Kansas City Royals 51 54 .486 6.0
Chicago White Sox 50 56 .472 7.5
Cleveland Indians 49 56 .467 8.0
Minnesota Twins 46 59 .438 11.0
Western Division W L PCT GB
Oakland Athletics 53 53 .500 -
Portland Beavers 52 54 .491 1.0
Seattle Mariners 50 55 .476 2.5
Los Angeles Angels 50 56 .472 3.0
Texas Rangers 49 57 .462 4.0
National League Standings
Eastern Division W L PCT GB
New York Mets 65 40 .619 -
Philadelphia Phillies 63 43 .594 2.5
Atlanta Braves 61 46 .570 5.0
Florida Marlins 52 54 .491 13.5
Washington Nationals 41 64 .390 24.0
Central Division W L PCT GB
St. Louis Cardinals 61 44 .581 -
Chicago Cubs 53 52 .505 8.0
Milwaukee Brewers 52 53 .495 9.0
Pittsburgh Pirates 49 57 .462 12.5
Cincinnati Reds 46 59 .438 15.0
Houston Astros 37 68 .352 24.0
Western Division W L PCT GB
Arizona Diamondbacks 59 48 .551 -
San Diego Padres 53 52 .505 5.0
San Francisco Giants 53 53 .500 5.5
Los Angeles Dodgers 52 54 .491 6.5
Colorado Rockies 49 56 .467 9.0
Young Drachma
03-08-2009, 01:01 PM
I'm going to try hard not to turn this thing into a stat dump, but I'm still trying to find a way to write it where you can 1) see who's on the team and 2) follow our progress.
Maybe I'll just do season reviews, where you can see how we did, see our stats and find out what's next. Ultimately, that's all I want to cover anyway. So that's my plan going forward.
Young Drachma
03-08-2009, 02:29 PM
Okay, we're in a pennant race and it's our first season so I'm going to slow down.
Here are the standings as of September 3, 2009
American League Standings
Eastern Division W L PCT GB
Tampa Bay Rays 84 62 .575 -
Baltimore Orioles 83 64 .565 1.5
New Jersey Pilots 80 66 .548 4.0
New York Yankees 78 69 .531 6.5
Boston Red Sox 66 80 .452 18.0
Central Division W L PCT GB
Toronto Blue Jays 79 68 .537 -
Detroit Tigers 72 75 .490 7.0
Kansas City Royals 71 76 .483 8.0
Chicago White Sox 66 81 .449 13.0
Cleveland Indians 66 81 .449 13.0
Minnesota Twins 64 83 .435 15.0
Western Division W L PCT GB
Oakland Athletics 78 69 .531 -
Seattle Mariners 71 76 .483 7.0
Texas Rangers 68 79 .463 10.0
Portland Beavers 66 80 .452 11.5
Los Angeles Angels 65 82 .442 13.0
National League Standings
Eastern Division W L PCT GB
New York Mets 92 54 .630 -
Florida Marlins 80 66 .548 12.0
Philadelphia Phillies 80 67 .544 12.5
Atlanta Braves 78 69 .531 14.5
Washington Nationals 60 86 .411 32.0
Central Division W L PCT GB
St. Louis Cardinals 81 66 .551 -
Chicago Cubs 78 69 .531 3.0
Milwaukee Brewers 71 76 .483 10.0
Cincinnati Reds 65 82 .442 16.0
Pittsburgh Pirates 62 85 .422 19.0
Houston Astros 58 89 .395 23.0
Western Division W L PCT GB
Arizona Diamondbacks 82 65 .558 -
San Diego Padres 79 68 .537 3.0
Colorado Rockies 78 69 .531 4.0
Los Angeles Dodgers 76 70 .521 5.5
San Francisco Giants 71 76 .483 11.0
We are within striking distance of the Wild Card, 2 1/2 games out with 17 games to go. So it's realistic. This is the last season of this format, we'll switch formats next year and so, we'll just see how it goes.
Young Drachma
03-08-2009, 02:32 PM
Ok, I'm going to do a game-by-game account of the rest of our season or at least until we're out of the pennant race.
Here's our schedule down the stretch:
SEPT 4-5: vs. Boston
6-9: vs. Tampa Bay
10-12: vs. Portland
13-16: vs. Baltimore
17-19: @ Yankees
So we've got 14 of our last 17 at home, we're 40-28 at home this year and so....that's encouraging.
Young Drachma
03-08-2009, 02:43 PM
Here's our lineup:
CF Jacoby Ellsbury (.293, 50 SB)
RF Ichiro Suzuki (.323, 68 RBI, 43 SB)
1B Nick Johnson (.320, 4 HR, 28 RBI since coming to New Jersey via trade at the deadline)
3B Mat Gamel (.309, 6 HR, 35 RBI in 220 ABs)
LF Luke Scott (.256, 9 HR, 38 RBI)
DH James Loney (.297, 6 HR, 61 RBI in 407 ABs)
2B Jed Lowrie (.278, 13 HR, 89 RBI)
SS Felipe Lopez (.262, 10 HR, 63 RBI, 26 SB)
The Pitching staff goes like this:
Roger Clemens (10-1, 2.95 ERA)
Ben Sheets (1-2, 3.68 ERA in 8 starts)
Phil Hughes (11-8, 4.70 ERA)
Erik Bedard (10-11, 5.31 ERA)
Dustin McGowan (10-10, 5.89 ERA)
Closer: Huston Street (8-3, 19 saves, 1.69 ERA)
Hideki Okajima (7-3, 4.26 ERA, 14 saves)
Not exactly a team of brusiers. Todd Helton has been woeful, he's hitting .226 with 11 HRs and 76 RBI this year and well, if I could find a way to dispatch him I would. But maybe that's why Colorado was so willing to send him packing. We're stuck with him for another two years, though.
I think overall, we've got a fair shot. A lot of spare parts on this ballclub, no real breakout stars, but I think that's owing to letting the AI manage the team for half the year and so, a lot of guys didn't get consistent playing time at their spots.
In any case, let's see how this pans out.
Young Drachma
03-08-2009, 02:46 PM
9/4
New Jersey 9, Boston 7
(Mat Gamel went 3 for 5 with 2 RBI in the win, Ichiro went 3 for 3 with 2 runs scored and a walk)
STANDINGS
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AL EAST
Tampa (84-63)
Baltimore (83-65) 1.5 GB
New Jersey (81-66) 3 GB
AL WILD CARD
Baltimore (83-65)
New Jersey 1.5 GB
New York 4 GB
Young Drachma
03-08-2009, 02:49 PM
9/5
Boston 7, New Jersey 2
9/6
New Jersey 12, Tampa Bay 3
9/7
New Jersey 3, Tampa Bay 2
Needless to say, we picked a very good time to start thriving, in our matchup against the defending AL Champs. We're now 2 games out in the AL East, 1 1/5 games out in the AL Wild Card and we get two more games against them and four more against Baltimore next week. In other words, if we want to win the division or a playoff spot, it's there for the taking and we just need to man up and get at it.
Young Drachma
03-08-2009, 02:52 PM
9/8
New Jersey 2, Tampa Bay 0
9/9
New Jersey 6, Tampa Bay 1
We got the four-game sweep of the Rays, which for the moment puts us in a three-way tie with Tampa and Baltimore for the AL East lead, pending the results of the NYY-BAL game later today.
Most important, it means that if we can tak some games against our expansion brethen at home against Portland, that we'll be setup well for the matchup next week against Baltimore, which could decide the playoff race. It's all very hairy right now and it's almost anyone's tourney. The Yankees sit 4 games out of the Wild Card.
Young Drachma
03-08-2009, 02:55 PM
9/10
New Jersey 4, Portland 3
We've won 9 of our last 10 and 5 straight games. As a side note, all of the area teams are within the playoff hunt. The Mets have already clinched the NL East, the Phillies cling to a slight lead in the NL Wild Card race, then there's us and the Yankees are fading, but still part of the conversation for now.
AL EAST
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New Jersey 86-67
Baltimore 86-67
Tampa Bay 85-68 1 GB
New York Yankees 81-73 5.5 GB
Young Drachma
03-08-2009, 02:59 PM
9/11
New Jersey 8, Portland 5
9/12
New Jersey 5, Portland
The Jersey engine just keeps on chugging. We've won seven straight and have completed our second straight series sweep this week, as we prepare to host Baltimore in the last homestand of the season.
AL EAST
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New Jersey 88-67
Baltimore 1 GB
Tampa Bay 2 GB
New York 5.5 GB
Young Drachma
03-08-2009, 03:03 PM
9/13
New Jersey 8, Baltimore 1
9/14
Baltimore 16, New Jersey 3
9/15
New Jersey 6, Baltimore 5
With 4 games left to go this season, we have a magic number of 3.
AL EAST
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New Jersey 90-68
Baltimore 2 GB
Tampa Bay 2 GB
AL CENTRAL: Toronto (85-73)
AL WEST: Oakland (83-75)
AL WILD CARD
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Baltimore
Tampa Bay
New York 4 GB
NL EAST: New York (97-61)
NL CENTRAL: St. Louis (87-71)
NL WEST: Arizona (90-68)
NL WILD CARD
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Philadelphia (86-73)
Atlanta 1/2 GB (85-73)
Florida 1/2 GB (85-73)
Colorado 1.5 GB (84-74)
Los Angeles 1.5 GB (84-74)
San Diego 2 GB (84-75)
Young Drachma
03-08-2009, 03:05 PM
9/16
New Jersey 14, Baltimore 1
Tampa Bay lost to Boston, giving New Jersey a tie for the AL East title in our first year. Baltimore and Tampa remain tied for the AL Wild Card.
Young Drachma
03-08-2009, 03:10 PM
9/18
New Jersey 7, New York 3
We beat the Yankees and as such, clinched the AL East title.
Baltimore won and clinched the AL Wild Card.
In the National League, tomorrow is the last day of the season and here are the standings.
NL WILD CARD
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Atlanta 87-74
Los Angeles 87-74
Colorado 1 GB
Florida 1 GB
Philadelphia 1 GB
9/19
Philadelphia @ New York
Colorado @ Arizona
San Diego @ Los Angeles
Florida @ Atlanta
So here's the scenario:
We could have a five-way tie for the NL Wild Card, because if Los Angeles and Atlanta lose and Colorado and Philadelphia win (Florida would have to beat Atlanta) then we'd have a five-way tie.
How to resolve this? Is anyone's guess...
Young Drachma
03-08-2009, 03:22 PM
Atlanta and Los Angeles both won, so it'll just force a one-game playoff between the two to determine who'll advance. Or so I thought, as it seems OOTP decided that Los Angeles would advance without the game. So I dunno what that's about.
But oh well.
Young Drachma
03-08-2009, 08:12 PM
AMERICAN LEAGUE DIVISION SERIES
NJ v. OAK
Game 1: New Jersey 5, Oakland 0
Philip Hughes pitched 7 innings, struck out 9 and walked 3 in the win
Other games:
BAL 7, TOR 2
LA 17, ARZ 15
STL 2, NYN 1
Young Drachma
03-08-2009, 08:13 PM
GAME 2: Oakland 6, New Jersey 5
Erik Bedard got the loss, as the series is now tied 1-1.
BAL 4, TOR 3 (BAL leads 2-0)
LA 12, ARZ 4 (LA leads 2-0)
NYN, 14, STL 5 (Series tied at 1-1)
Young Drachma
03-08-2009, 08:14 PM
GAME 3: Oakland 6, New Jersey 4 (OAK leads 2-1)
TOR 8, BAL 2 (BAL leads 2-1)
ARZ 5, LAD 0 (LAD leads 2-1)
STL 5, NYN 4 (STL leads 2-1)
Young Drachma
03-08-2009, 08:16 PM
GAME 4: New Jersey 6, Oakland 4 (11 innings)
We scored 4 runs in the top of the 11th, Oakland scored 2 in the bottom of that inning, but we win. Roger Clemens went 8 innings, struck out 9 and walked 1. Steroids work, friends.
BAL 5, TOR 4 (BAL leads 3-1)
LAD 11, ARZ 10 (11 innings, LAD leads 3-1)
NYN 10, STL 5 (Series tied at 2-2)
Young Drachma
03-08-2009, 08:17 PM
GAME 5: New Jersey 11, Oakland 3 (NJ wins 3-2)
St. Louis 4, New York 3 (STL wins 3-2)
I forgot the Division Series is just a best of five. So I guess we take on Baltimore in the ALCS. In the NLCS it'll be the Dodgers and Cardinals.
Young Drachma
03-08-2009, 08:21 PM
LEAGUE CHAMPIONSHIP SERIES
New Jersey v. Baltimore
Game 1: NJ 4, BAL 2
Game 2: NJ 8, BAL 0
Game 3: BAL 8, NJ 5
Game 4: BAL 5, NJ 4 (11 innings)
Game 5: BAL 2, NJ 1
Game 6: NJ 6, BAL 5 (Pilots scored 5 runs in the bottom of the 9th to get the win and force a Game 7)
Game 7: BAL 3, NJ 2 (A run in the top of the 8th gave the Orioles the win and they had to the World Series)
Los Angeles v. St. Louis
Game 1: LA 11, STL 4
Game 2: LA 11, STL 6
Game 3: STL 8, LA 3
Game 4: STL 16, LA 6
Game 5: STL 6, LA 1
Game 6: STL 3, LA 1 (St. Louis wins series 4-2)
JetsIn06
03-08-2009, 08:37 PM
Good job getting so far so quickly.
Very cool dynasty idea. I grew up in Hazlet which is right next door to Keansburg.
Wolfpack
03-08-2009, 10:28 PM
I have a generally difficult time with four-team divisions in baseball.
But now that you say that..I never thought about the divisional finals, because it's been so long since the NHL did it. But you know, that's actually a really good idea!
It'll make the 16-team playoffs easier to swallow long-term, too.
We're going to run 2009 as normal and we won't expand the playoffs until 2010 though.
Well, you could do 4x8 rather than 8x4, but the annoyance there is the NL. If you want to keep the realism, then you have to find a way to keep the Cubs and Cards in the East because they'd fight any West division relocation for them tooth-and-nail. It's why Cincy and Atlanta were in the NL West after the expansion/realignment of the late 1960s. If you did the same treatment to the current NL, you'd end up with Atlanta and Florida along with Houston in the West. Even if that weren't an issue, it's still difficult to pick three from Houston, Chicago, St. Louis, and Milwaukee to go to the West. The AL would cleave easier with KC, Chicago, and Minnesota going west (which is where they were before the current alignment).
Even if you do 4x8, there'd still be some things to consider. To wit:
The AL West (Seattle, Portland, Oakland, LA/Anaheim) and NL West (SF, LA, SD, Arizona) would be pretty straightforward.
In the AL East, New York, Boston, and New Jersey would be three teams, but then you could go with either Toronto, Baltimore, or Tampa for the fourth. If the fourth in the East is Toronto, then you could put Minny, CWS, Detroit, and Cleveland together in a "North", and then Baltimore, TB, KC, and Texas in a "South". If it's Baltimore, then it's probably best to group Toronto, Cleveland, Detroit and Tampa in a "Central", followed by CWS, Minny, KC and Texas in a "Midwest". If it's Tampa as the East fourth team, then it's the same as with Baltimore, except Baltimore and Tampa flip-flop.
The NL is a bit trickier. Philly and New York are a lock for the NL East, but after that it's hard to decide the best approach. Washington most likely would end up in the East as well, though conceivably, you could put Pittsburgh and Cincy in the East, which would bump Washington into a probable "South" with Florida, Atlanta, and Houston. This would lead to a "North/Midwest" of Chicago, St. Louis, Milwaukee and Colorado. If Washington is in the East as the third team, then the choice becomes either Pittsburgh or Florida for the fourth (Atlanta in the East would leave Florida in some non-sensical alignment with midwest teams in my view). If the fourth is Pittsburgh, that most probably leads to FLA, Atlanta, Houston, and Cincy in a "South", with the Cubs-STL-MIL-COL alignment again for the remaining division. An alternative with some stretching done would be to change Colorado and Cincy, thus Colorado ends up in the "South" and Cincy in the "North" with Chicago, St. Louis, and Milwaukee.
If the fourth in the East is Florida, then it gets a bit messy trying to split up the remaining teams and would be harder to keep STL and Chicago together. One possible outcome would be Atlanta-Pitt-Cincy-Milwaukee, leaving Chicago-STL-Colorado-Houston. If Chicago-STL preservation isn't important, then, ATL-STL-COL-HOU could be a division and then CHI-MIL-CIN-PIT would be the remainder.
One really exotic possibility would be to actually have the Rockies in the West. This would mean constructing a very elongated "South" stretching from Florida to Atlanta to Houston to Arizona (thus, unlikely to actually be created). The NL East would be NYM-PHI-PIT-WAS and the "North" would be CHI-STL-MIL-CIN.
(Yes, I spend a lot of time thinking about things like this. :D I've realigned many pro sports leagues more times than I can count trying to find the best geographic fit for everything.)
Young Drachma
03-08-2009, 10:43 PM
I love that you've indulged me on this topic, because I was indeed wrecking my brain thinking about it for a good while the other day, once I got this started.
I'm most certainly going to do your idea of a Divisional Championship Series between the 1 v. 2 of each division, it's just the alignments I needed to figure out.
But you've reiterated a lot of my thoughts on this, so..it'll be fun to flesh it out!
Young Drachma
03-08-2009, 11:10 PM
The only other major error I'm going to fix is changing the name of the Tampa Bay Rays to the St. Petersburg Pelicans.
I was going to move them, but that's just too much trouble, really.
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc113/Dynasty_DC/pelicans1.jpg?t=1236571785
Young Drachma
03-08-2009, 11:54 PM
Calgary-based EnCana buys Toronto Blue Jays
CALGARY -- The Toronto Blue Jays will remain in Canada, the question is, will they stay in Toronto? Calgary-based EnCana purchased the team -- an uncharacteristic move for the conservative energy behemoth -- from the Rogers Group, after the death of Ted Rogers last year hastened the move of the club off the Rogers balance sheet.
With the sale, the Rogers Centre (SkyDome) is still owned by the Rogers group and the team has a "get out of a jail free" card in terms of an ability to strike a new lease with Rogers after this season -- under the option that the owners wanted to move the team elsewhere -- though at the time of the negotiation, this prospect seems "wildly unlikely," according to one source.
But the escalation from "wildly unlikely" to "highly probable" became so when the City of Vancouver -- a place that's long desired a baseball team of its own -- contacted officials with the company, to offer them a highly desired spot at the newly renovated BC Place Stadium in Vancouver.
Ownership believes a move west would create an instant rivalry with the Portland and Seattle clubs in the AL West and would give the team a chance to begin mining for fans among the Asian populations in both Vancouver and in Japan.
"They're exploring some pretty lucrative opportunities to turn the Blue Jays brand into the first global baseball franchise. Being based in Canada gives them an opportunity to branch the team out in a variety of different directions and it seems they've got a pretty good idea of what they want to do, whether the team stays or goes."
Toronto would seem to be a better spot to start global media hegemony for a baseball team, but the new owners are bothered by playing in "the old owner's backyard" and feel that a new city would give them a chance to "invigorate" the team's brand after they managed to make the playoffs for the first time since 1993 last year, winning the AL Central.
"So they'd go from being Toronto's team to truly Canada's, because people now will not root for them out of spite, given their locale. This might actually help them nationally."
MLB announces new playoff format
MLB officials have not responded to requests regarding a possible move, but more information is expected to come after the owner's meetings next week in Phoenix, where MLB is also going to unveil its new 8-division alignment for the 2010 season.
Playoffs next year will add a new round. As of 2010, MLB playoffs will go like this:
Division Playoff Series (best-of-five)
Division Series (best-of-seven)
LCS (best-of-seven)
World Series (best-of-seven)
Young Drachma
03-08-2009, 11:57 PM
Good job getting so far so quickly.
Very cool dynasty idea. I grew up in Hazlet which is right next door to Keansburg.
I know the area well. Go Jersey, woo!
Young Drachma
03-09-2009, 12:04 AM
MLB owners approve the sale of the Blue Jays
MLB owners approved the sale of the Toronto Blue Jays to EnCana 29-3 with Seattle, Portland and Oakland all voting no. The owners approved the team's move to Vancouver, starting with the 2010 season.
Okay, here's the realignment plan.
It requires some shifting of teams, to make it work a bit better.
Houston and Colorado are moving to the AL.
St. Petersburg and Kansas City are moving to the NL.
Here's baseball's new alignment:
AL EAST
New Jersey Pilots
New York Yankees
Boston Red Sox
Baltimore Orioles
AL CENTRAL
Chicago White Sox
Detroit Tigers
Cleveland Indians
Minnesota Twins
AL WEST
Los Angeles Angels
Colorado Rockies
Texas Rangers
Houston Astros
AL PACIFIC
Oakland Athletics
Seattle Mariners
Portland Beavers
Vancouver Blue Jays
NL EAST
New York Mets
Philadelphia Phillies
Atlanta Braves
Pittsburgh Pirates
NL SOUTH
Washington Nationals
St. Petersburg Pelicans
Florida Marlins
Cincinnati Reds
NL CENTRAL
St. Louis Cardinals
Chicago Cubs
Milwaukee Brewers
Kansas City Royals
NL WEST
Los Angeles Dodgers
San Diego Padres
San Francisco Giants
Arizona Diamondbacks
Young Drachma
03-09-2009, 07:29 PM
FREE AGENTS
OK, here are the list of upcoming free agents for the Pilots for the 2010 season.
SP Erik Bedard (12-11, 5.04)
1B Nick Johnson .271, 17 HR, 73 RBI
SS Felipe Lopez (.264, 12 HR, 73 RBI, 28 SB)
CL Huston Street (26 sv. 1.57 ERA)
OF Luke Scott (.254, 9 HR, 40 RBI in 287 ABs)
RP Jeremy Accardo (1-4, 6.04 ERA in 48 appearances)(Arbitration)
SP Dustin McGown (11-11, 5.90 ERA)(Arbitration
Ok, so...I dunno what I'm going to do. Johnson is going to cost a pretty penny, something like $20 million a year for the next 5 years. He's already 31, so it's doubtful that I will pay him and just let him go. Helton is a shell of himself, but...I'll just have to hope he can get it together, because I'm stuck with him for 2 more years.
Bedard is intriguing, but he wants $10 million for multi-year deal (per year) and that's not alluring either, since he's clearly not top flight.
I will try to extend Street immediately, because he was lights out last year. Clemens retired for good, so he's out of here, meaning if I let Bedard go, we'll need to go out and replace 2/5ths of our rotation.
That's okay, though. I think we can make it work, because our offense is in fairly good shape. Our bullpen needs to be shored up a bit, as does our rotation though if we want to get back to the playoffs next year.
DC this is pretty cool as usual, and im following. Enjoying it so far :)
Young Drachma
03-09-2009, 07:48 PM
Lopez already said he's leaving, so I can figure we'll lose him completely since I won't overpay for him.
That said, I found a deal with a contract that's worse than Helton's, but with a guy who I think helps us a bit more.
NEW JERSEY trades:
1B Todd Helton
LF Seth Smith
to the VANCOUVER BLUE JAYS for:
CF Vernon Wells
MR Scott Downs
It saves us a few million this year and while Wells contract is exoribtant and still has some years on it, it actually works out better because Wells can be a more useful player to us than Helton would've been and in this case, it came down to productivity, whereas Toronto wanted to get out from under that contract of his now.
As for replacing the void at 1st base, I haven't decided what to do yet, but it's very unlikely I sign Nick Johnson to a long-term deal, I'll just find a stopgap or use Nomar at that position, which is why I offered him a deal when I first took over the team in the first place.
Young Drachma
03-09-2009, 08:00 PM
I made a deal just before the start of FA to acquire SP Junichi Tazawa, a Japanese pitcher (22 years old) who spent last year in Boston. He was dealt to Washington a few days ago, I sent them Jered Weaver, who is mission ready and Tazawa who is underrated and I think can help us down the stretch here.
We're still going to need to go out and get at least one of the major free agent arms this off-season and maybe two. I'm not going to be shy about throwing money out there, mostly because it's about legitimacy.
We've managed to win the PR war this year. We made the playoffs, the Yankees didn't. The rivalry has officially begun and we drew first blood.
They are quickly becoming a lot like the New York Giants of the 1920s after the Yankees started winning all of those World Series, the Giants became known as "the team your father rooted for."
We're pretty convinced we can turn a whole generation of kids at Jersey into Pilots fans, but we're not gonna do it by being terrible, that's for sure. Winning memories create lifelong fans, because everyone loves a winner.
We can't spend Yankee money, but just because you can get the best prostitutes doesn't mean you shouldn't settle for a nice girl who can raise your kids.
So I think we're gonna be all right.
Young Drachma
03-09-2009, 08:01 PM
DC this is pretty cool as usual, and im following. Enjoying it so far :)
Woo. Glad you're enjoying it.
Young Drachma
03-09-2009, 08:12 PM
If you're curious about some of the moves, understand that Cubbyfan's latest roster set for 2009 contains some of the strangest rating quirks ever. Great players are highly underrated in this set, which explains the strangeness of it all. I don't know what those yahoos over there do, but...clearly it ain't watch baseball.
Young Drachma
03-09-2009, 08:53 PM
Huston Street wants more than the 4-years and $43.8 million I've offered him. I'm reluctant to go beyond $45 million and that probably won't be enough. But I've got a personal rule that doesn't allow me to overspend on closers because they pitch too few innings and are so erratic.
So he might be dispatched.
Meanwhile, Jonathon Papelbon is a free agent and I'm convinced he can be a starter for us and I'm throwing wads of money at him. So it would be redundant to have both anyway.
Speaking of wads of money, here are the notable free agents on the market:
CF Mike Cameron (.265/27/101 RBI)
3B Garett Atkins (.249/26 HR/ 99 RBI)
3B Chipper Jones (.350/25 HR/117 RBI
RF Vlad Guerrero (.289/24 HR/98 RBI)
SP Rich Harden (14-10, 235 K, 4.64 ERA)
SP Cliff Lee (12-17, 5.29 ERA)
SP Josh Beckett (10-17, 214 K, 4.83 ERA)
We need pitching more than anything, I can't really afford to go signing a bunch of old guys to long-term deals. But that said, we also can't afford to miss the playoffs and have the Yankees make them.
So it's a tradeoff that I'll have to balance out somehow.
Young Drachma
03-09-2009, 11:11 PM
I traded SP Dustin McGowan and a prospect (2B Julio Casteneda) to the Texas Rangers for SS German Duran and SS Elvis Andrus.
Addition by subtraction, sure. We need more pitching, but McGowan in my mind isn't really part of that equation, at least for a pennant and so, I dealt him for middle infield depth
Young Drachma
03-09-2009, 11:21 PM
Harden wants too much money, so I won't be offering him a contract. Beckett, I think I might bite on. Cliff Lee is a bargain, so I'll probably overpay for him.
We'll see how it goes...
Young Drachma
03-09-2009, 11:27 PM
After the Division Playoff Series which pit the #1 v. 2 of each division against each other in a best-of-5 game series, the brackets go like this:
The playoff brackets go like this:
AL West v. AL East
AL Pacific v. AL Central
NL East v. NL West
NL South v. NL Central
I might rotate it from year to year or I might keep it fixed. I dunno. It's kinda of a pain.
Wolfpack
03-10-2009, 10:53 PM
Gee, thanks. I do all that work and you ball it up and throw it away.... ;)
Young Drachma
03-10-2009, 10:59 PM
Gee, thanks. I do all that work and you ball it up and throw it away.... ;)
Hahaha..not really. You're the one that got me thinking about optimal geographic alignments and stuff. And the whole inter-division series to start the playoffs.
Blame yourself! :D
Young Drachma
03-12-2009, 07:48 PM
We got Papelbon. He signed a 6 year deal worth $121 million. I'm going to make him a starter. Payroll is current at just over $90 million and while I'd like to add Josh Beckett, he keeps getting increased offers. My last offer to him was for 7 years and $136 million. Vancouver apparently upped their offer and so he's saying no deal.
I just can't see going higher than that, when we're already locked into Vernon Wells deal and a bunch of others.
But then again, all his deal would do is put us over $100 million and we pretty much knew that's where we'd end up. I've already said we have to win a title in the next 4 years to stay relevant and to be taken seriously, but if it doesn't work for us after a season or so, I'm not above doing what the Marlins did, selling everyone off and trying again.
We're adding 2,000 standing room only seats to the stadium for next year, so capacity at The Beachside Bakery (Entenmann's Stadium) is 32,042.
Young Drachma
03-12-2009, 07:50 PM
Beckett signed with Washington for 7 years and $170.9 million (7th year is a team option) but there's no way we could've really done that and lived with ourselves in the morning. So...we'll be fine.
Young Drachma
03-12-2009, 07:52 PM
We signed Vlad Guerrero to a 2-year deal worth $47.4 million, but the second year is a team option for $27.7 million, so if he doesn't pull his weight, he'll be outta here after this year. We needed some punch, because last season offense wasn't the strongest and so, he seemed like the best option left on the market.
Young Drachma
03-12-2009, 07:58 PM
Ok, here's our lineup:
RF Ichiro
C Lou Marson
3B Mat Gamel
1B James Loney
CF Vernon Wells
LF Brian Stavisky
SS Jed Lowrie
2B German Duran
Rotation:
Papelbon
Ben Sheets
Phil Hughes
Cliff Lee
Junichi Tazawa
Closer: Huston Street
Young Drachma
03-12-2009, 07:59 PM
TOP MINOR SYSTEMS (2010)
Minor League Systems
# Team Points Top 5 Prospects
1st Texas Rangers 127 P N. Feliz (5th), 1B J. Smoak (11th), 1B V. Rutledge (14th), 1B E. Hosmer (54th), RF C. Nelson (79th)
2nd Seattle Mariners 118 SS E. Lyon (2nd), P P. Aumont (6th), 1B A. Lambo (41st), SS A. Cardenas (75th), LF G. Halman (85th)
3rd Colorado Rockies 95 CF R. Karlier (13th), P M. Perez (32nd), C W. Rosario (43rd), 1B L. Morrison (46th), P J. Chacin (60th)
4th San Francisco Giants 91 RF H. Brown (22nd), P T. Alderson (23rd), P M. Bumgarner (24th), P C. Tanner (37th), 1B A. Villalona (98th)
5th New Jersey Pilots 90 P J. Tazawa (4th), SS E. Andrus (20th), C B. Lawrie (65th), SS H. Harrell (72nd), 3B M. Gamel (91st)
6th Baltimore Orioles 85 1B B. Brown (10th), P J. Niese (27th), P C. Tillman (35th), CF F. Zheng (82nd)
7th Detroit Tigers 84 CF M. Ordóńez (7th), P R. Porcello (9th), P J. Días (83rd)
8th Cincinnati Reds 84 1B Y. Alonso (18th), 1B D. O'Neal (29th), P K. Lotzkar (39th), C D. Mesoraco (48th), 3B J. Francisco (93rd)
9th Oakland Athletics 78 P T. Cahill (15th), RF D. Simpson (19th), 1B C. Carter (56th), P M. Ynoa (68th)
10th Chicago White Sox 70 RF J. Heyward (12th), C A. Delgado (38th), P A. Poreda (57th), 3B D. Viciedo (67th)
11th New York Mets 56 SS W. Flores (16th), LF F. Martinez (28th), P B. Holt (84th), SS J. Jones (100th)
12th San Diego Padres 55 2B N. López (3rd), 1B K. Blanks (86th)
13th Los Angeles Dodgers 52 SS P. Franco (21st), P C. Withrow (33rd), P E. Martin (78th), P J. Lindblom (89th)
14th Washington Nationals 51 LF S. Ortíz (1st)
15th Kansas City Royals 49 3B M. Moustakas (26th), P D. Cortes (42nd), RF A. Rodríguez (52nd)
16th Florida Marlins 47 LF C. Martínez (17th), P R. Tucker (58th), P A. Portillo (62nd)
17th Pittsburgh Pirates 43 CF G. Salinas (8th), CF J. Borbon (90th)
18th Los Angeles Angels 43 P J. Walden (34th), P N. Adenhart (50th), P T. Chatwood (73rd), P T. Reckling (80th)
19th Minnesota Twins 39 P S. Hunt (40th), CF B. Revere (45th), CF A. Hicks (77th), P T. Robertson (97th)
20th Portland Beavers 39 RF M. Stanton (36th), 1B L. Anderson (59th), 3B B. Wallace (71st), CF E. Leonard (92nd), C B. Posey (94th)
21st St. Louis Cardinals 35 CF S. Tracy (31st), P J. Todd (47th), CF D. Jones (95th)
22nd Cleveland Indians 34 P L. Mendoza (30th), SS L. Chisenhall (70th), C C. Santana (81st)
23rd St. Petersburg Pelicans 30 SS P. Castro (51st), SS T. Beckham (53rd), P W. Davis (64th)
24th Philadelphia Phillies 23 P C. Carrasco (25th)
25th Chicago Cubs 18 RF R. Oliva (61st), 3B J. Vitters (63rd)
26th Vancouver Blue Jays 17 1B B. Williams (49th), SS J. Jackson (88th)
27th Houston Astros 15 P G. Fernández (66th), P R. Seaton (69th)
28th Milwaukee Brewers 14 P J. Jeffress (44th)
29th Atlanta Braves 10 P T. Hanson (55th)
30th Boston Red Sox 7 3B D. Crowe (74th), CF R. Westmoreland (99th)
31st Arizona Diamondbacks 6 LF W. King (76th)
32nd New York Yankees 0
Young Drachma
03-12-2009, 08:00 PM
Here are the opening day team payrolls:
Rank Team Payroll
1 New York Yankees $200,599,100
2 Detroit Tigers $160,149,200
3 Philadelphia Phillies $150,674,000
4 New York Mets $146,555,200
5 Chicago Cubs $144,504,900
6 Los Angeles Dodgers $142,106,600
7 Houston Astros $128,698,500
8 Boston Red Sox $112,895,000
9 New Jersey Pilots $110,592,750
10 Texas Rangers $107,195,100
11 Los Angeles Angels $105,161,300
12 St. Louis Cardinals $100,380,000
13 Cleveland Indians $88,047,900
14 Baltimore Orioles $87,807,600
15 Atlanta Braves $87,623,200
16 Colorado Rockies $80,089,800
17 Chicago White Sox $79,520,000
18 Minnesota Twins $78,679,500
19 Vancouver Blue Jays $77,538,800
20 San Francisco Giants $74,770,800
21 Cincinnati Reds $74,480,000
22 Milwaukee Brewers $71,283,000
23 San Diego Padres $70,755,200
24 Kansas City Royals $70,090,100
25 Washington Nationals $67,553,500
26 Florida Marlins $63,396,200
27 Pittsburgh Pirates $61,401,600
28 St. Petersburg Pelicans $61,196,600
29 Oakland Athletics $58,008,400
30 Arizona Diamondbacks $55,333,800
31 Seattle Mariners $53,194,200
32 Portland Beavers $52,403,300
Young Drachma
03-12-2009, 08:02 PM
That's a 3-year window of $100m+ payroll, by 2013, we're back down into the 60-million range, which basically lets our fans know "we're gonna win or we're not."
The goal here is to win as much as we can within our first five year window, then rebuild using heavy investment into prospects and tapping into a foreign player development base, which is the next thing this dynasty will focus on -- actual prospects that we'll cultivate -- and then see how our team does with those guys.
Anyway, let's start the wackiness that is 2010.
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