FrogMan
03-29-2003, 04:34 PM
Maybe you've heard about this, maybe you've not. I'm talking about an exchange, on the air of a Seattle radio, between an Iraqi-American caller and a spokeperson for United for Peace and Justice, named Andrea Buffa.
If you have and/or don't care, you can go on and read the next thread. But if you haven't heard it or read the transcript, I think it's worth your time. It's about Mohammed, an expatriot Iraqi, now living in America. He asked Ms Buffa one simple question, which she never answers: How exactly will leaving Saddam in power promote peace and justice in Iraq? I'm not pro-war, who can be, but gotta admit that I see Mohammed's point perfectly.
Here's the link to the audio file. It's a 2.5 Mb (approx.) MP3 file.
http://komo1000news.com/audio/kvi_aircheck_031003.mp3
Here's a link to the talk show host's website:
KVI Seattle - Brian Suits (http://kvi.com/x2977.xml?ParentPageID=x3259&ContentID=x3503&Layout=KVI.xsl&AdGroupID=x3248)
Finally, below is the transcript of the exchange, as found on this site:
KVI exchange transcript (http://users.rcn.com/wcitymike/transcript.html)
If this has already been presented or discussed to death in the past, I'm sorry for wasting bandwidth. I couldn't find anything about it by doign a search.
Later, FrogMan
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KVI Transcript: Andrea Buffa on Bryan Suits
What follows is a transcript of an exchange between Mohammed, an Iraqi-American caller, and Andrea Buffa, a spokesperson for United for Peace and Justice, on a talk radio show on Seattle's KVI (570 AM) hosted by Bryan Suits.
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Mohammed: How exactly will leaving Saddam in power promote peace and justice in Iraq?
[Six-second pause.]
Andrea Buffa: Um, again, what I need to say is
Andrea (with Mohammed): that regime change listen, regime change, regime change has been issued to the Iraqi
Mohammed (with Andrea): No, you are now obfuscating ... how exactly will leaving Saddam
Andrea: people. How will b how will bombing Iraq help bring peace into
Andrea (with Mohammed): and bombing thousands of people and killing thousands of innocent people and
Mohammed (with Andrea): I will explain it to you, if you would like me to answer your question, since you are choosing not to answer mine.
Bryan Suits: Okay, let him, let him
Bryan (with Mohammed): let him explain, let Mohammed explain how bombing will work
Mohammed (with Bryan): Since you are choosing, since you are choosing to play ping pong, and not answer my question, little girl, I will answer yours. There will be civilian deaths in the war. Saddam has killed two million people. There are families here in this country who lost twenty or thirty people on one day in a gas attack by Saddam Hussein, little girl.
Andrea (faintly in background): Ha ha
Mohammed: And I will tell you this: yes, civilians will die. My cousins will die, maybe, Allah forbid. But here is a certainty that you do not understand in your simplistic, nickelodeon diplomacy, is that you are guaranteed to have civilians die under Saddam. So now, you try again to answer my question, without playing the ping-pong: how does leaving Saddam in power promote peace and justice in Iraq?
[Two-second pause.]
Andrea: I mean, I guess what folks who listen to this show are saying, or who are calling in
Mohammed: I am not asking what folks listening to this show say
Andrea: You know
Mohammed: Can you answer the question, little girl?
Andrea: Ha ha ha
Mohammed: Oh, now you laugh at people dying?
Mohammed (with Andrea): You are unable to answer the question.
Andrea (with Mohammed): Well, no, what I'm, what I'm laughing at
Andrea: is that it seems like you need to, um, personally
Andrea (with Mohammed): attack me to make your point
Mohammed (with Andrea): I do not want advice from you.
Mohammed: I am not giving
Mohammed (with Bryan): you advice
Bryan (with Mohammed): Well, I have, I have
Andrea (with Mohammed): So, what I want to say
Mohammed (with Andrea): I am answering your question
Bryan: Here, well, Mohammed, Mohammed, let me, let me pose it this way: Andrea, I have the feeling that if you just answer his question, he'll be happy.
Andrea: Ha ha ha ha
Bryan: And I'm, by the way, I'm not baited by your laughter.
Mohammed: You know that
Mohammed (with Andrea): laughter in the background?
Andrea (with Mohammed): You know, what I believe is that bombing and killing people
Andrea (with Mohammed): is not going to bring peace and justice. What I, what I also believe is there are, there are other alternatives if we can pursue
Mohammed (with Andrea): You can't answer the question. You are a joke. You are a joke. You cannot answer the question. You cannot answer the question. You are a joke.
Andrea: Ah
Mohammed (with Bryan): You are a joke. I will give you one more chance, and then I never listen to a word you say again, you chirping bird.
Bryan (with Mohammed): How, how, how
Bryan: will promoting peace how can you promote peace and justice without removing Saddam?
Andrea (with Bryan): Okay, and I also just want to say that although you are, um
Bryan (with Andrea): That's his question. It's real simple, Andrea.
Andrea: And what I'm saying ha ha ha
Bryan: You're not answ
Bryan (with Mohammed and Andrea): Ha ha ha
Mohammed (with Andrea and Bryan): Listen to the
Andrea (with Bryan and Mohammed): No!
Mohammed (with Bryan): laughter of this little bird
Bryan (with Mohammed): Hey, [exhales], I
Andrea (with Mohammed): you guys
Mohammed (with Andrea): who justifies herself.
Andrea (with Bryan): Well first, I don't think, I don't think
Bryan (with Andrea): I don't know, I don't I'm trying so hard, Andrea.
Andrea: I don't think that, you know, calling somebody a little bird is going to help address the serious questions that millions of
Andrea (with Mohammed): people are worried about
Mohammed (with Andrea): You do not answer the serious questions.
Andrea: millions of people are worried about the consequences of a war, okay? Millions of
Mohammed (with Andrea): No, I am not okay
Andrea (with Mohammed): people are worried about the
Mohammed: with you not answering the question.
Andrea: bombing and killing many people and millions of people are worried about
Andrea (with Bryan): increasing security for us, the people in the United States if we go to war, and additionally, I don't, um
Bryan (with Andrea): Sure, sure, sure, I, we're, we're, we're retreading the same territory, the, the, yeah, we're retreading
Bryan (with Mohammed): but you're not, you're not
Mohammed (with Bryan): You're a posturing little girl.
Bryan (with Andrea): You're, you're not answering the question, Andrea.
Andrea (with Bryan): Ha ha ha.
Bryan: Andrea, Andrea, you can continue to petutantly gale
Andrea: Well
Bryan (with Andrea): in laughter, but you're, you have to admit
Andrea (with Bryan): I'm, I'm
Bryan (with Andrea): you're not answering his question. It's a simple question
Andrea (with Bryan): well, I'm, I'm laughing at him calling me a little girl
Andrea (with Bryan): and I think that you guys are being
Bryan (with Andrea): You're coming off, you're coming off like my 9-year-old niece.
[Brief silence.]
Andrea: The only, it seems like the only focus that we can have here is Saddam Hussein, and the fact is that Iraq
Andrea (with Mohammed and Bryan): and that the people
Mohammed (with Andrea and Bryan): That is the focus of the war.
Bryan (with Andrea and Mohammed): Well the
Andrea (with Mohammed): who are going to be killed in the bombing campaign
Mohammed (with Andrea): Do you understand one thing about anything?
Andrea (with Mohammed and Bryan): and what I said before is that
Mohammed (with Andrea and Bryan): That is the focus of the war.
Bryan (with Andrea and Mohammed): Cur cur curiously, Andrea, you're
Andrea: there are alternatives, and
Bryan: Yeah, alright, but curiously, you're talking to a guy from Iraq, and you're telling him that peace and justice will somehow remove the guy that is the reason he had to emigrate here. [Pause.] Is that what you're saying?
Andrea: What I'm saying is that
Mohammed: Now, she repeats herself again
Andrea: is that true peace and justice for the Iraqi people through international law, through diplomacy
Mohammed (with Andrea): International law has failed, Andrea.
Andrea (with Mohammed): through pressure, through
Andrea: various, um, different initiatives. If we can pursue them in North Korea, if we can pursue them in Israel and Palestine, and all over the world, we can pursue them in Iraq.
Mohammed (with Bryan): And can I say one more
Bryan (with Mohammed): Go
Mohammed (with Bryan and Andrea): thing before I go
Andrea (with Bryan and Mohammed): And, and I also
Bryan (with Andrea and Mohammed): No, no, no, no
Andrea (with Bryan): No! I
Bryan (with Andrea): An-, An-, Andrea, Mohammed has to go, he's a
Andrea (with Bryan): Ha ha ha ha ha
Bryan (with Andrea): caller, he gets to go
Bryan: You've been on for the, uh, for 45 minutes.
Mohammed (with Bryan): I'm going to be, I
Bryan (with Mohammed): Go ahead, ahead
Mohammed: One more thing, please, Bryan.
Bryan: Yeah, go ahead.
Mohammed: If you, if you personally end up going to the Gulf, Allah will bless you, because Saddam is a pretend Muslim, and everybody knows this.
Bryan: Yeah.
Mohammed: And for the listeners who hear this girl, and she thinks I insult her with the term, I do not insult her. Being a little girl is natural. We all start out children, and we learn and grow. But she has no point lecturing me on what will happen in Iraq, or lecturing you. This is why this so-called peace movement they cannot even justify their own name. And I will remind you, if they leave Saddam in power they guarantee death if he is removed, there will be some, but for a short time and the Iraqi people are ready, and they will welcome the Americans, including if, Allah forbid, Bryan, uh, Suites, go. So, Andrea, do not take it as being an insult that you are a little girl. You are simply not ready for the adult world. Thank you, Bryan.
Bryan: Uh, thank you, Mohammed. What he's referring to, Andrea, is that tomorrow
Andrea: I
Bryan: tomorrow night is my final night here on KVI. My, uh, I'm, I'm being called up by the Army National Guard. I was in the first Desert Storm. I pray to God I'm not in the second one. I just wonder, as they say, in 10 years will people shake my hand and say 'thanks for my freedom', or will they shake your hand? Neither you nor I know.
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If you have and/or don't care, you can go on and read the next thread. But if you haven't heard it or read the transcript, I think it's worth your time. It's about Mohammed, an expatriot Iraqi, now living in America. He asked Ms Buffa one simple question, which she never answers: How exactly will leaving Saddam in power promote peace and justice in Iraq? I'm not pro-war, who can be, but gotta admit that I see Mohammed's point perfectly.
Here's the link to the audio file. It's a 2.5 Mb (approx.) MP3 file.
http://komo1000news.com/audio/kvi_aircheck_031003.mp3
Here's a link to the talk show host's website:
KVI Seattle - Brian Suits (http://kvi.com/x2977.xml?ParentPageID=x3259&ContentID=x3503&Layout=KVI.xsl&AdGroupID=x3248)
Finally, below is the transcript of the exchange, as found on this site:
KVI exchange transcript (http://users.rcn.com/wcitymike/transcript.html)
If this has already been presented or discussed to death in the past, I'm sorry for wasting bandwidth. I couldn't find anything about it by doign a search.
Later, FrogMan
=========================================
KVI Transcript: Andrea Buffa on Bryan Suits
What follows is a transcript of an exchange between Mohammed, an Iraqi-American caller, and Andrea Buffa, a spokesperson for United for Peace and Justice, on a talk radio show on Seattle's KVI (570 AM) hosted by Bryan Suits.
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Mohammed: How exactly will leaving Saddam in power promote peace and justice in Iraq?
[Six-second pause.]
Andrea Buffa: Um, again, what I need to say is
Andrea (with Mohammed): that regime change listen, regime change, regime change has been issued to the Iraqi
Mohammed (with Andrea): No, you are now obfuscating ... how exactly will leaving Saddam
Andrea: people. How will b how will bombing Iraq help bring peace into
Andrea (with Mohammed): and bombing thousands of people and killing thousands of innocent people and
Mohammed (with Andrea): I will explain it to you, if you would like me to answer your question, since you are choosing not to answer mine.
Bryan Suits: Okay, let him, let him
Bryan (with Mohammed): let him explain, let Mohammed explain how bombing will work
Mohammed (with Bryan): Since you are choosing, since you are choosing to play ping pong, and not answer my question, little girl, I will answer yours. There will be civilian deaths in the war. Saddam has killed two million people. There are families here in this country who lost twenty or thirty people on one day in a gas attack by Saddam Hussein, little girl.
Andrea (faintly in background): Ha ha
Mohammed: And I will tell you this: yes, civilians will die. My cousins will die, maybe, Allah forbid. But here is a certainty that you do not understand in your simplistic, nickelodeon diplomacy, is that you are guaranteed to have civilians die under Saddam. So now, you try again to answer my question, without playing the ping-pong: how does leaving Saddam in power promote peace and justice in Iraq?
[Two-second pause.]
Andrea: I mean, I guess what folks who listen to this show are saying, or who are calling in
Mohammed: I am not asking what folks listening to this show say
Andrea: You know
Mohammed: Can you answer the question, little girl?
Andrea: Ha ha ha
Mohammed: Oh, now you laugh at people dying?
Mohammed (with Andrea): You are unable to answer the question.
Andrea (with Mohammed): Well, no, what I'm, what I'm laughing at
Andrea: is that it seems like you need to, um, personally
Andrea (with Mohammed): attack me to make your point
Mohammed (with Andrea): I do not want advice from you.
Mohammed: I am not giving
Mohammed (with Bryan): you advice
Bryan (with Mohammed): Well, I have, I have
Andrea (with Mohammed): So, what I want to say
Mohammed (with Andrea): I am answering your question
Bryan: Here, well, Mohammed, Mohammed, let me, let me pose it this way: Andrea, I have the feeling that if you just answer his question, he'll be happy.
Andrea: Ha ha ha ha
Bryan: And I'm, by the way, I'm not baited by your laughter.
Mohammed: You know that
Mohammed (with Andrea): laughter in the background?
Andrea (with Mohammed): You know, what I believe is that bombing and killing people
Andrea (with Mohammed): is not going to bring peace and justice. What I, what I also believe is there are, there are other alternatives if we can pursue
Mohammed (with Andrea): You can't answer the question. You are a joke. You are a joke. You cannot answer the question. You cannot answer the question. You are a joke.
Andrea: Ah
Mohammed (with Bryan): You are a joke. I will give you one more chance, and then I never listen to a word you say again, you chirping bird.
Bryan (with Mohammed): How, how, how
Bryan: will promoting peace how can you promote peace and justice without removing Saddam?
Andrea (with Bryan): Okay, and I also just want to say that although you are, um
Bryan (with Andrea): That's his question. It's real simple, Andrea.
Andrea: And what I'm saying ha ha ha
Bryan: You're not answ
Bryan (with Mohammed and Andrea): Ha ha ha
Mohammed (with Andrea and Bryan): Listen to the
Andrea (with Bryan and Mohammed): No!
Mohammed (with Bryan): laughter of this little bird
Bryan (with Mohammed): Hey, [exhales], I
Andrea (with Mohammed): you guys
Mohammed (with Andrea): who justifies herself.
Andrea (with Bryan): Well first, I don't think, I don't think
Bryan (with Andrea): I don't know, I don't I'm trying so hard, Andrea.
Andrea: I don't think that, you know, calling somebody a little bird is going to help address the serious questions that millions of
Andrea (with Mohammed): people are worried about
Mohammed (with Andrea): You do not answer the serious questions.
Andrea: millions of people are worried about the consequences of a war, okay? Millions of
Mohammed (with Andrea): No, I am not okay
Andrea (with Mohammed): people are worried about the
Mohammed: with you not answering the question.
Andrea: bombing and killing many people and millions of people are worried about
Andrea (with Bryan): increasing security for us, the people in the United States if we go to war, and additionally, I don't, um
Bryan (with Andrea): Sure, sure, sure, I, we're, we're, we're retreading the same territory, the, the, yeah, we're retreading
Bryan (with Mohammed): but you're not, you're not
Mohammed (with Bryan): You're a posturing little girl.
Bryan (with Andrea): You're, you're not answering the question, Andrea.
Andrea (with Bryan): Ha ha ha.
Bryan: Andrea, Andrea, you can continue to petutantly gale
Andrea: Well
Bryan (with Andrea): in laughter, but you're, you have to admit
Andrea (with Bryan): I'm, I'm
Bryan (with Andrea): you're not answering his question. It's a simple question
Andrea (with Bryan): well, I'm, I'm laughing at him calling me a little girl
Andrea (with Bryan): and I think that you guys are being
Bryan (with Andrea): You're coming off, you're coming off like my 9-year-old niece.
[Brief silence.]
Andrea: The only, it seems like the only focus that we can have here is Saddam Hussein, and the fact is that Iraq
Andrea (with Mohammed and Bryan): and that the people
Mohammed (with Andrea and Bryan): That is the focus of the war.
Bryan (with Andrea and Mohammed): Well the
Andrea (with Mohammed): who are going to be killed in the bombing campaign
Mohammed (with Andrea): Do you understand one thing about anything?
Andrea (with Mohammed and Bryan): and what I said before is that
Mohammed (with Andrea and Bryan): That is the focus of the war.
Bryan (with Andrea and Mohammed): Cur cur curiously, Andrea, you're
Andrea: there are alternatives, and
Bryan: Yeah, alright, but curiously, you're talking to a guy from Iraq, and you're telling him that peace and justice will somehow remove the guy that is the reason he had to emigrate here. [Pause.] Is that what you're saying?
Andrea: What I'm saying is that
Mohammed: Now, she repeats herself again
Andrea: is that true peace and justice for the Iraqi people through international law, through diplomacy
Mohammed (with Andrea): International law has failed, Andrea.
Andrea (with Mohammed): through pressure, through
Andrea: various, um, different initiatives. If we can pursue them in North Korea, if we can pursue them in Israel and Palestine, and all over the world, we can pursue them in Iraq.
Mohammed (with Bryan): And can I say one more
Bryan (with Mohammed): Go
Mohammed (with Bryan and Andrea): thing before I go
Andrea (with Bryan and Mohammed): And, and I also
Bryan (with Andrea and Mohammed): No, no, no, no
Andrea (with Bryan): No! I
Bryan (with Andrea): An-, An-, Andrea, Mohammed has to go, he's a
Andrea (with Bryan): Ha ha ha ha ha
Bryan (with Andrea): caller, he gets to go
Bryan: You've been on for the, uh, for 45 minutes.
Mohammed (with Bryan): I'm going to be, I
Bryan (with Mohammed): Go ahead, ahead
Mohammed: One more thing, please, Bryan.
Bryan: Yeah, go ahead.
Mohammed: If you, if you personally end up going to the Gulf, Allah will bless you, because Saddam is a pretend Muslim, and everybody knows this.
Bryan: Yeah.
Mohammed: And for the listeners who hear this girl, and she thinks I insult her with the term, I do not insult her. Being a little girl is natural. We all start out children, and we learn and grow. But she has no point lecturing me on what will happen in Iraq, or lecturing you. This is why this so-called peace movement they cannot even justify their own name. And I will remind you, if they leave Saddam in power they guarantee death if he is removed, there will be some, but for a short time and the Iraqi people are ready, and they will welcome the Americans, including if, Allah forbid, Bryan, uh, Suites, go. So, Andrea, do not take it as being an insult that you are a little girl. You are simply not ready for the adult world. Thank you, Bryan.
Bryan: Uh, thank you, Mohammed. What he's referring to, Andrea, is that tomorrow
Andrea: I
Bryan: tomorrow night is my final night here on KVI. My, uh, I'm, I'm being called up by the Army National Guard. I was in the first Desert Storm. I pray to God I'm not in the second one. I just wonder, as they say, in 10 years will people shake my hand and say 'thanks for my freedom', or will they shake your hand? Neither you nor I know.
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