Natasha Richardson In Ski Accident - Reports Claim She Is Now Brain Dead

[Scoobz0202]

Sad story :(

hxxp://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/03/16/natasha-richardson-ski-ac_n_175573.html

hxxp://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/03/17/natasha-richardson-brain_n_175764.html

[DaddyTorgo]

Ummm I saw these news articles on gossip sites and thought they were being sarcastic - are they serious???

[Scoobz0202]

Looks like it. It's on most of the news places I have read recently. TMZ has a picture of Vanessa Redgrave arriving tonight at a NYC hospital, too.

[Samdari]

The cnn article has her pretty coherent after the accident.

Which is very interesting, as the first report on there mentioned a serious head injury. Now they had to convince her to go to the hospital.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Interesting part of the story is that she didn't really do anything out of the ordinary other than fall down. Sounds like she was just a bit stunned at first and the instructers wanted her to get checked out. Wonder if something didn't rupture, leading to the slow onset of symptoms.

[FrogMan]

the accident happened in Tremblant near Montreal so we heard a lot about it in the local news. She was taking skiing classes and she fell in one of the student slopes. As MBBF said, the fall was nothing out of the ordinary and even though she was brought down the slopes by the instructors, she went to her hotel room at first and it's only from there that she was sent to the hospital when the symptoms started showing up...

FM

[SteveMax58]

What a terrible story. Makes you think twice before doing anything any more.

[Eaglesfan27]

The cnn article has her pretty coherent after the accident.

Which is very interesting, as the first report on there mentioned a serious head injury. Now they had to convince her to go to the hospital.

Not unusual. She may have had a slow-moderate brain bleed (cerebral hemorrhage to be technical) that eventually did the damage before they could correct it. This is why it is so important to get checked out after possible brain damaging accidents.

[Alan T]

Listening to the news about this accident, it sounds like the only big symptom that she had after the accident was a case of a headache. 20-20 hindsight obviously the doctors on the news were stating that after a head injury if you have any symptom like that, its a good idea to have it checked by a professional, and perhaps they could have done something to save her if she had gone earlier.

This is scary considering how many times playing my kids may fall or even bump their head. As a parent, I was always told to be aware of various signs of a possible concussion.. but if it is this easy to have a life threatening injury, it changes the perspective of any minor fall now.

[Swaggs]

Really sad news. I really feel for her family -- I believe she has two relatively young children at home.

[DanGarion]

Who?

[Subby]

Who?
Natasha Richardson

[Alan T]

Who?


She is an actress, mostly was in movies that I likely went to due to my ex-wife but you likely would recognize her. She is married to Liam Neeson.

[Subby]

She is an actress, mostly was in movies that I likely went to due to my ex-wife but you likely would recognize her. She is married to Liam Neeson.
Don't reward lazy stupidity.

[DanGarion]

Don't reward lazy stupidity.

The thing is, even when I looked at her picture she didn't ring a bell at all. It's not stupidity, it's that I honestly don't know who the hell she is.

[QuikSand]

Who?

If only there were some way to connect your computer to other computers, including others that have this sort of information available. Maybe you could talk to your buddies at EvilCableHQ and see if they can get on this.

Might be a nice service, and save folks like you the awkward situation of being forced to open a thread clearly about someone you haven't heard of, and then being compelled to ask the more well-informed people in the thread who she is.

[Ksyrup]

Name kinda rang a bell with me, but the only thing I would have seen of hers is Parent Trap, thanks to my kids. I assume she was the British mom. I was unaware of the Neeson/Redgrave angle. Seems like most actors/actresses have some family connection to the biz, though.

Strange thing about the coverage of this is that all day yesterday, only Fox News was reporting, from the beginning, how serious this was. All the other major sites were going out of their way to be non-commital and make it sound like she only went to the hospital for observation. Not sure if Fox really had more specific info, or they ran with a rumor and it looks like it is turning out to be correct.

[Eaglesfan27]

FWIW, I had no idea who she was from the thread title. I then used one of the links in the 1st post to find out who she was. I can't recall any movies I've seen with her in it.

[DanGarion]

If only there were some way to connect your computer to other computers, including others that have this sort of information available. Maybe you could talk to your buddies at EvilCableHQ and see if they can get on this.

Might be a nice service, and save folks like you the awkward situation of being forced to open a thread clearly about someone you haven't heard of, and then being compelled to ask the more well-informed people in the thread who she is.
The thing is hundreds of people die in the US every day and we glorify anyone that has had their 15 minutes of fame, it's bad enough we have to hear about every 1 time actor or actress, or reality star on the local news, but do we really need to have a thread for every one of them on here. From a son of a celeb, to a guy that created a MMA league, to an actress I can't recall, maybe we should be a "15 Minutes - Dead and/or Near Dead" thread so we can discuss these types of things.

[Toddzilla]

If only there were some way to connect your computer to other computers, including others that have this sort of information available. Maybe you could talk to your buddies at EvilCableHQ and see if they can get on this.

Might be a nice service, and save folks like you the awkward situation of being forced to open a thread clearly about someone you haven't heard of, and then being compelled to ask the more well-informed people in the thread who she is.Waste of time, my friend.

You see, even if there were some vast collection of computers, connected together in some kind of complicated network if you will, what would be the use? The people on the other computers would surely be as ignorant as I, so having such a vast resource would be useless without some kind of collective project to pool resources and information and knowledge.

And what are the chances of that?

[Ksyrup]

On another board, we simply have a Dead Thread - complete with an undertaker of sorts, who seems way too up on who's dying for my comfort. But hey, whatever floats his boat, I guess.

[larrymcg421]

Listening to the news about this accident, it sounds like the only big symptom that she had after the accident was a case of a headache. 20-20 hindsight obviously the doctors on the news were stating that after a head injury if you have any symptom like that, its a good idea to have it checked by a professional, and perhaps they could have done something to save her if she had gone earlier.

This is scary considering how many times playing my kids may fall or even bump their head. As a parent, I was always told to be aware of various signs of a possible concussion.. but if it is this easy to have a life threatening injury, it changes the perspective of any minor fall now.

The problem is with the symptoms she had, it's iffy whether they would have run the necessary kinds of tests or not. I mean, maybe she would've been able to get that done, but I doubt the average person would be able to go to the ER and get that kind of diagnosis, assuming they could even be seen before the effects got too bad anyways. I think in most cases, they'd probably get sent home with a Vicodin prescription at best.

[Alan T]

The problem is with the symptoms she had, it's iffy whether they would have run the necessary kinds of tests or not. I mean, maybe she would've been able to get that done, but I doubt the average person would be able to go to the ER and get that kind of diagnosis, assuming they could even be seen before the effects got too bad anyways. I think in most cases, they'd probably get sent home with a Vicodin prescription at best.


I am by no means a doctor, but they mentioned some of the routine tests that doctors perform on a checkup or in cases of headaches following head injury might have pointed them in that direction. They started talking a bit over my head regarding how pupil dilation might have been off with this type of injury and such. So it sounded like a case of this result happening due more to lack of realizing anything bad was going on moreso than what could have been done.

It is very possible that they were overstating that just for tv of course to make it sound so much more tramatic (as if it needed to be) though. So I really don't know how likely it would have been for her health to be better right now if she had gone to a hospital earlier. I guess that is part of what makes this story scary.. if something similar happens to you, do you now freak out over every headache? That seems to be what the media is pushing people to with the way this is being presented.

[larrymcg421]

I am by no means a doctor, but they mentioned some of the routine tests that doctors perform on a checkup or in cases of headaches following head injury might have pointed them in that direction. They started talking a bit over my head regarding how pupil dilation might have been off with this type of injury and such. So it sounded like a case of this result happening due more to lack of realizing anything bad was going on moreso than what could have been done.

It is very possible that they were overstating that just for tv of course to make it sound so much more tramatic (as if it needed to be) though. So I really don't know how likely it would have been for her health to be better right now if she had gone to a hospital earlier. I guess that is part of what makes this story scary.. if something similar happens to you, do you now freak out over every headache? That seems to be what the media is pushing people to with the way this is being presented.

I am admittedly basing this on my own very unfortunate experiences with health care (example: Went to ER with foot injury, they did a quick xray and I was told I had a small fracture. I didn't believe that and asked for a more thorough Xray, which was refused. I then went to another ER where I got a thoroguh Xray and was told I had bones broken in 5 places.)

So yeah, I think Natasha may have been able to get these kinds of tests done in time if she insisted, but I still doubt the average person will be seen quick enough to be treated properly. If you go into an ER and say you have a headache after falling down, you better bring a book, because you'll be waiting a while.

[BrianD]

If only there were some way to connect your computer to other computers, including others that have this sort of information available. Maybe you could talk to your buddies at EvilCableHQ and see if they can get on this.

Might be a nice service, and save folks like you the awkward situation of being forced to open a thread clearly about someone you haven't heard of, and then being compelled to ask the more well-informed people in the thread who she is.

This is the first route I went and it really didn't help. The pictures in the linked articles didn't help. A full listing of IMDB credits didn't help. The general gist appears to be that Liam Neeson's wife had an accident which could have been minor but turned out tragic. Given the start of the thread, I figured there was more to it that I couldn't identify. Somebody had to ask the "who" question.

[Oilers9911]

Who would know to go to the hospital for something like that though? How many times during a sporting even or otherwise have you taken a knock to the head, maybe your head hurts for a bit but it's no big deal. Man, if we went to the hospital every time that happened.....anyway, it's sad for her and her family.

[DanGarion]

This is the first route I went and it really didn't help. The pictures in the linked articles didn't help. A full listing of IMDB credits didn't help. The general gist appears to be that Liam Neeson's wife had an accident which could have been minor but turned out tragic. Given the start of the thread, I figured there was more to it that I couldn't identify. Somebody had to ask the "who" question.

DING! Someone gets it. Give the man a cookie. That's the problem with these people are dead or dieing threads...

[DaddyTorgo]

I still haven't seen any actual news organization reporting the seriousness of the injury. CNN.com just says "injured in a fall."

Everywhere I've seen "brain dead" has been a pretty "trashy" site.

[Alan T]

I still haven't seen any actual news organization reporting the seriousness of the injury. CNN.com just says "injured in a fall."

Everywhere I've seen "brain dead" has been a pretty "trashy" site.


All over the morning news in Boston this morning they were talking about brain damage or brain dead. That is actually where I heard about this first on channel 7 news.

[Ksyrup]

Fox News has been reporting since yesterday evening/late afternoon that she is brain dead (or at least, "Sources say") and that she will be taken off life support.

[Honolulu_Blue]

This is the first route I went and it really didn't help. The pictures in the linked articles didn't help. A full listing of IMDB credits didn't help. The general gist appears to be that Liam Neeson's wife had an accident which could have been minor but turned out tragic. Given the start of the thread, I figured there was more to it that I couldn't identify. Somebody had to ask the "who" question.

So based on the articles linked to the thread and a "full listing of IMDB credits" (her imdb page also contains a pretty extensive "mini-biography"), you couldn't figure out that she's an actress married to Liam Neeson who had an accident which could have been minor but turned out tragic.

What more could possibly be looking for to identify who she was?

Based on those articles and her IMDB page alone you know as much about her as anyone else who visits this site.

[DaddyTorgo]

So based on the articles linked to the thread and a "full listing of IMDB credits" (her imdb page also contains a pretty extensive "mini-biography"), you couldn't figure out that she's an actress married to Liam Neeson who had an accident which could have been minor but turned out tragic.

What more could possibly be looking for to identify who she was?

Based on those articles and her IMDB page alone you know as much about her as anyone else who visits this site.

I think he was looking for the naked pictures

[DaddyTorgo]

All over the morning news in Boston this morning they were talking about brain damage or brain dead. That is actually where I heard about this first on channel 7 news.

Fox News has been reporting since yesterday evening/late afternoon that she is brain dead (or at least, "Sources say") and that she will be taken off life support.

well then i suppose i stand corrected

[Lathum]

DING! Someone gets it. Give the man a cookie. That's the problem with these people are dead or dieing threads...

or you know, you could just not click on the thread.

[Ksyrup]

So based on the articles linked to the thread and a "full listing of IMDB credits" (her imdb page also contains a pretty extensive "mini-biography"), you couldn't figure out that she's an actress married to Liam Neeson who had an accident which could have been minor but turned out tragic.

What more could possibly be looking for to identify who she was?

Based on those articles and her IMDB page alone you know as much about her as anyone else who visits this site.

I think his point was that the general information didn't seem to be enough to justify the thread, so he was trying to figure out what else made her so special. I mean, c'mon, she's no Captain America...

[Honolulu_Blue]

I think he was looking for the naked pictures

Google Images. Come on, this Internet 101 type stuff.

[Scoobz0202]

I think his point was that the general information didn't seem to be enough to justify the thread, so he was trying to figure out what else made her so special. I mean, c'mon, she's no Captain America...

Hell, I made a thread because I knew exactly who she was when I saw her name and I'm twenty-one years old. I figured you older guys would especially know who she was :P

My bad.....

[DanGarion]

or you know, you could just not click on the thread.

Why fun would be in that. Then I couldn't get a reply like this from you.

[DanGarion]

I think his point was that the general information didn't seem to be enough to justify the thread, so he was trying to figure out what else made her so special. I mean, c'mon, she's no Captain America...

Yeah talk about a spoiler!

[Ksyrup]

The younger you are, the more dialed in you are to pop culture. I'll be 38 this year and probably couldn't put a picture with a name of the top 25 movie stars who have come on the scene in the past 5 years. I guess as my girls get older I'll start to pick up on some of it, but right now I'm up on everyone from Disney/Nickelodeon and that's about it. Oh, and I'm all over the new Dora makeover, too. Slutty bi-lingual bitch.

[DaddyTorgo]

The younger you are, the more dialed in you are to pop culture. I'll be 38 this year and probably couldn't put a picture with a name of the top 25 movie stars who have come on the scene in the past 5 years. I guess as my girls get older I'll start to pick up on some of it, but right now I'm up on everyone from Disney/Nickelodeon and that's about it. Oh, and I'm all over the new Dora makeover, too. Slutty bi-lingual bitch.


LMAO!!!

[Alan T]

The younger you are, the more dialed in you are to pop culture. I'll be 38 this year and probably couldn't put a picture with a name of the top 25 movie stars who have come on the scene in the past 5 years. I guess as my girls get older I'll start to pick up on some of it, but right now I'm up on everyone from Disney/Nickelodeon and that's about it. Oh, and I'm all over the new Dora makeover, too. Slutty bi-lingual bitch.


Funny you mention this. immediately following the Natasha Richardson story on the local news this morning, they had the Dora the Explorer story.. My wife and I both agree that we don't like the new Dora..

[Ksyrup]

http://quinnchannel.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83452188569e2011168c35ad9970c-800wi

[Ksyrup]

Apparently they are getting so many complaints that they are turning Dora into a Bratz-like doll that they are supposedly going to tone it down. But what I posted above is the original, in silhouette form.

[gstelmack]

The younger you are, the more dialed in you are to pop culture. I'll be 38 this year and probably couldn't put a picture with a name of the top 25 movie stars who have come on the scene in the past 5 years. I guess as my girls get older I'll start to pick up on some of it, but right now I'm up on everyone from Disney/Nickelodeon and that's about it. Oh, and I'm all over the new Dora makeover, too. Slutty bi-lingual bitch.

I'm older than you and I knew who she was. Of course one of my wife's favorite movies growing up was The Parent Trap, and we watched the remake. Plus it was a running joke where that movie was on TBS or Disney or ABC Family like twice a week for something like 6 months. It was always popping up on the cable guide...

[gstelmack]

Apparently they are getting so many complaints that they are turning Dora into a Bratz-like doll that they are supposedly going to tone it down. But what I posted above is the original, in silhouette form.

Wait, what? They're screwing with DORA? Are they insane?

And Bratz is one of the doll lines we absolutely refuse to let our 6-year-old daughter buy. The conversations have been interesting, but I think she gets it.

[BrianD]

I think his point was that the general information didn't seem to be enough to justify the thread, so he was trying to figure out what else made her so special. I mean, c'mon, she's no Captain America...

Sort of. I don't really think any thread needs justification since random conversation is what this board is all about. I just assumed that I must be missing something because of the thread and the reaction within. Apparently the fact of "Liam Neeson's wife" was the sum total of relevant information. Now I know there wasn't more that I was missing.

[Ksyrup]

Wait, what? They're screwing with DORA? Are they insane?

And Bratz is one of the doll lines we absolutely refuse to let our 6-year-old daughter buy. The conversations have been interesting, but I think she gets it.

They have to get a piece of the tween market, man. Research shows that most kids lose interestin Dora after age 6 or so. It's a decidely childish character. So they are looking to draw tweens into an older, maturing Dora character. That's the theory, anyway.

[Honolulu_Blue]

I think his point was that the general information didn't seem to be enough to justify the thread, so he was trying to figure out what else made her so special. I mean, c'mon, she's no Captain America...

If we're setting the bar at Captain America, then I think from now on whenever someone posts a thread about any individual who is sick or dying, "Who?" will be an appropriate response.

The bar is high, gentlemen.

[Ksyrup]

I'm older than you and I knew who she was. Of course one of my wife's favorite movies growing up was The Parent Trap, and we watched the remake. Plus it was a running joke where that movie was on TBS or Disney or ABC Family like twice a week for something like 6 months. It was always popping up on the cable guide...

I'm familiar with the movie and have seen it with my girls several times, but until I saw it listed among her movies, I had no idea who she was or that she was in it. Just putting 2 and 2 together, I assume she was the British mom. Aside from Lohan, I don't even remember anyone else from that movie, either. But I don't really follow movies or actors.

I've now seen 2 reports on "Talk and Die" syndrome. Huh.

[DanGarion]

If we're setting the bar at Captain America, then I think from now on whenever someone posts a thread about any individual who is sick or dying, "Who?" will be an appropriate response.

The bar is high, gentlemen.

Sounds good to me.

[DaddyTorgo]

They have to get a piece of the tween market, man. Research shows that most kids lose interestin Dora after age 6 or so. It's a decidely childish character. So they are looking to draw tweens into an older, maturing Dora character. That's the theory, anyway.

so why mess with original dora who has the kiddie market and piss off parents? why not give dora a long-lost "tween" sister to hang out with? call her bora...or maura or laura

[gstelmack]

I'm familiar with the movie and have seen it with my girls several times, but until I saw it listed among her movies, I had no idea who she was or that she was in it. Just putting 2 and 2 together, I assume she was the British mom. Aside from Lohan, I don't even remember anyone else from that movie, either. But I don't really follow movies or actors.

Dennis Quaid man!

The only reason I recognized the name was all the freakin' rebroadcasts on cable. My wife and I used to be browsing the guide and one of us would say "Hey, I know, we could watch the Parent Trap! We haven't seen that in AGES!" at least twice a week. It was an awesome running gag. But as a result I saw her name a lot.

[Ksyrup]

No clue. They aren't doing away with the original Dora, as far as I know, but it does appear that there will be "dual track" Dora's out there, one for the pre-school set and one for the tweens.

[Ksyrup]

Ah yes, Dennis Quaid. I do remember him. Funny, I don't think I've ever seen The Parent Trap on TV, it's always been on VHS (we don't even have it on DVD).

[DanGarion]

No clue. They aren't doing away with the original Dora, as far as I know, but it does appear that there will be "dual track" Dora's out there, one for the pre-school set and one for the tweens.

So like alternate timelines like Terminator and Sarah Connor Chronicles, or alternate universe like DC and Marvel comics?

[gstelmack]

so why mess with original dora who has the kiddie market and piss off parents? why not give dora a long-lost "tween" sister to hang out with? call her bora...or maura or laura

My wife and I have been discussing this for the last few minutes over IRC, and her points are that:

1) The way to compete with Hannah Montana and the Bratz is not to BE them, but to DIFFERENTIATE from them. Forget the short skirt / leggings look, she ought to continue dressing outdoorsy and having outdoor adventures.

2) She needs to get away from all "girlfriends" and have a mix.

[Shkspr]

she ought to continue dressing outdoorsy and having outdoor adventures.

2) She needs to get away from all "girlfriends"

So do you want tween Dora to be lesbian or not? Make up your mind! :mad:

[Galaxy]

I love how this thread went from the injury of Natasha Richardson (Her sister plays Julia on Nip/Tuck, btw), to who the hell is Natasha Richardson, to if the new Dora the Explorer is becoming a slut.

[JonInMiddleGA]

They aren't doing away with the original Dora, as far as I know, but it does appear that there will be "dual track" Dora's out there, one for the pre-school set and one for the tweens.

Ding ding ding.

[CamEdwards]

The freaky thing is that Natasha Richardson was going to be the voice of Tween Dora. Totally true, I read it in the Enquirer.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Several outlets now reporting that a spokesperson for Richardson's family says she has died.

[Ryan S]

Several outlets now reporting that a spokesperson for Richardson's family says she has died.

According the BBC, the source is Liam Neeson's publicist. It's all over the UK news channels now.

[MrBug708]

RIP :(

[Noop]

Sad.

:(

[Mustang]

Well, at least there is some good that came of this


(CNN) -- Connie and Donald McCracken were watching CNN one evening last week when they learned of the tragic death of actress Natasha Richardson from a head injury. Immediately, their minds turned to their 7-year-old daughter, Morgan, who was upstairs getting ready for bed.
Morgan McCracken's epidural hematoma is the lens-shaped white mass at the top right of the left CT scan.

Two days earlier, Morgan, her father, and brother had been playing baseball in the yard of their Mentor, Ohio, home when her father hit a line drive that landed just above Morgan's left temple. A lump formed, but the McCrackens iced it down and the swelling subsided within an hour.

"For the next two days, she was perfectly fine," Donald McCracken says. "She had no symptoms. She went to school both days and got an A on her spelling test as usual. There were no issues whatsoever."

But after hearing about Richardson's death, the McCrackens wondered if Morgan was really as OK as she seemed. After all, Richardson had been talking and lucid immediately after her fatal injury.

When they went upstairs to kiss Morgan good night, she complained of a headache. "Because of Natasha, we called the pediatrician immediately. And by the time I got off the phone with him, Morgan was sobbing, her head hurt so much," McCracken says.

The McCrackens took Morgan to the emergency room at LakeWest Hospital in neighboring Willoughby, where doctors ordered a CT scan and immediately put Morgan on a helicopter to Rainbow Babies and Children's Hospital in Cleveland, with her father by her side.

"I knew it was bad when she had to get there by helicopter in six minutes, instead of the 30 minutes it would have taken to get to Cleveland in an ambulance," McCracken said.

When the helicopter arrived at Rainbow, the McCrackens were greeted by Dr. Alan Cohen, the hospital's chief of pediatric neurosurgery. He whisked Morgan into the operating room, pausing for a moment to tell McCracken that his daughter had the same injury as Richardson: an epidural hematoma.

McCracken remembers standing in the emergency room, feeling like the life had just been sucked out of him. "My heart sank," he says. "It just sank."

Unlike Richardson's, Morgan's story has a happy ending. After surgery and five days in the hospital, she's at home and doing fine. "Dr. Cohen told us that if we hadn't brought her in Thursday night, she never would have woken up," McCracken says.

[Alan T]

Wow Mustang, that story is incredible. Exactly the horror story that I mentioned above regarding always wondering about my own kids now if they ever get a head injury. Really good news that their daughter ended up ok from it.

[molson]

Great story - but I wonder what the actual medical advice on head injuries is. From what I remember from the Richardson story, she also waited until until having a headache before seeking medical help - same as this girl.