UFC Undisputed

[Deattribution]

Got a chance to play the demo today and this game looks and plays amazing. Only two fighters in the demo (Chuck and Shogun) but the presentation is just like a PPV, along with the commentary being very fluid and lifelike. The fighting is also very fluid, with it switching to short elbows and strikes when you move in and longer reaching strikes when you're further out automatically. I wasn't sure how well that system would work but having played it, it's pretty cool.

It seems like it's going to pay off to fight smart, and also know what you're doing (there seems to be a lot of stuff to do with the buttons if you know what you're doing), but it definitely allows you just to go out and slug if you want as well.

If anyone is wanting to check out the demo early (it comes out on the 23rd), some Gamestops are giving out demo keys with a pre-order of the game.

[Calis]

There are now options to get the demo a few days early for people who didn't preorder for Gamestop.

I've got a chance to play through the tutorial and a couple fights tonight, and I'm really surprised. I was looking forward to this but expectations were extremely low. I thought best case scenario they made a comparable game to Pride's on the PS2.

Obviously tough to say with only two fighters and only playing for a few minutes but I'm very impressed. The presentation is very nice and the system is in depth. They might have even implemented a pretty good ground system which is what I thought would be the weakness. In fact from the little I've seen the ground game looks better and is more fluid than the striking.

Very impressed with the depth. It's definitely a game that will take a long time to master as there are loads of different positions and buttons to remember.

Seems a helluva lot easier to win with Chuck in the demo than Shogun though. I've never had much of a problem winning with Chuck but Shogun is tough to fight as. The AI seems a little more aggressive and capable with Chuck. I imagine if I got a better handle on the clinch game I could do some damage.

Anyway early on I'd say people can be pretty excited about this. Who knows how broken the system will seem after we get more time with it and see more fighters, but I'm happy so far. Going to be a long month waiting for this one.

[Icy]

I'm really looking forward for it. I'm also afraid of the cotrol scheme as MMA is not like boxing where you have some punches only.

What about the career mode, any info?

I'll check the demo on 23th if it's available for Ps3.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Career mode will be the key on this one. If they can give the game some depth, it should do well.

[Scoobz0202]

Just an update for everybody:

I'm downloading the demo right now. It was released today.

[DeToxRox]

It's amazing.

I have played at least 10 hours of the Demo.

[DeToxRox]

Dola

The ground game is sensational and I was most worried about that. Like it better then the striking.

[DaddyTorgo]

*sigh*

between this and MLB: The Show is there a reason not to get a PS3?

[DeToxRox]

*sigh*

between this and MLB: The Show is there a reason not to get a PS3?

I'd say it's worth it for the bluray alone.

[Scoobz0202]

After playing the demo for an hour or so this definitely a must buy for me. I can't wait to create a fighter and do a career.

[EagleFan]

Wow, WOW, WOW!!!!

Couldn't stop playing the demo. I thought it had a chance to be a major disappointment but I am VERY glad to see that it looks like that is definitely not the case.

I still have to work on the ground game (other than the ground and pound) but this is excellent so far. I don't like that one of the moves needs you to use the right stick and the buttons (luckily I forget which one it was so it must not have been that important).

One of the favorite moments so far was actually one in which I lost a match. I had rocked my opponent and mounted for a ground and pound. I started raining down shots just waiting for that big one that ended it and all of a sudden he grabs my head pulls it down and throws a triangle on me for the submission. That was a major holy shit moment for me because it means that the fights may not start to get predictable once it looks like you are beating the tar out of your opponent.

Definitely can't wait for May 19th!!!

[DeToxRox]

I love catching a guy for a KO. If you're prone to a big shot it'll end like that.

[Carman Bulldog]

Enjoying it as well. Anyone having any trouble submitting the CPU opponent? Obviously with Chuck against Shogun it's not likely, but even playing as Shogun vs. Chuck, I still can't get any subs. Anyone else?

[Icy]

I'm downloading it now from PSN, really looking forward for this game.

[Icy]

Ok, after doing the full tutorial and like 10 fights i must admit i'm really really hooked and hyped about this game.

It's both easy to beguin with and really deep to master. Love how you can get K.O. any time even when you are giving the other fighter a beating. You can't just button mash, you really need to think on both players fighting styles to take advantage, it's a very strategical fighting game.

I can only hope for a good career mode and i'll be in fighintg heaven. I was really looking forward for fight night round 4 as i'm more of a boxing fan but after playing this demo, can't wait for May 22th.

It should be also so fun online playing in private leagues with mature guys who like to play realistically, of course not with kids that use exploits.

[DeToxRox]

Enjoying it as well. Anyone having any trouble submitting the CPU opponent? Obviously with Chuck against Shogun it's not likely, but even playing as Shogun vs. Chuck, I still can't get any subs. Anyone else?

turn on the stamina bar in the options. They have to have basically no stamina but you still have to tap buttons pretty fast to do it. I've submitted Chuck twice tops in about 200 total fights.

[Icy]

Career gameplay video:

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[Icy]

And a nice video of some fights:

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[Icy]

Look at this video recorded by a guy playing the demo, some nice KO's and really realistic players movements

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[Mizzou B-ball fan]

I'm definitely going to give this demo a whirl. I loved playing the wrestling games where they had the career/story mode. I haven't played a fighting/wrestling game in a few years and would love a good game to make me jump back into it.

[EagleFan]

Can't wait for the release date!!! Getting tired of the same two fighters, but still enjoying the demo.

[DaddyTorgo]

wow - that demo looks SICK

[heybrad]

I had a blast with the demo this morning. I love the ground game although I seem to fall in love with it too much and get caught while trying to move in for take downs too often.

If the career mode is done right, this game will be top notch.

[moriarty]

I'm in. The demo is an absolute blast even with only two fighters, and just watching other people play is entertaining due to the many ways the fight can go.

Would love to see an FOFC league (assuming you can even do that in the game).

[EagleFan]

Would love to see an FOFC league (assuming you can even do that in the game).

First rule of FOFC fight club is that nobody talks about FOFC fight club...

[Flasch186]

yup the Demo is great and Ive pre-ordered.

I have a hard time initiating a submission attempt though, and havnt sunk one yet.

[EagleFan]

yup the Demo is great and Ive pre-ordered.

I have a hard time initiating a submission attempt though, and havnt sunk one yet.

Same here on the submission. I've initiated a few but they always end up badly. Of course I don't think I have tried one as Rua yet.

I want to preorder but I am trying to be a frugal as possible with money now. There are many bad rumors swirling around in our office so I will probably wait until it's out and then apply a few trade ins.

[Icy]

yup the Demo is great and Ive pre-ordered.

I have a hard time initiating a submission attempt though, and havnt sunk one yet.

That is my only problem, i can get K.O. and T.K.O without problem with both players when standing, also some with ground and pound but i have not been able to get a single submission win.

[Travis]

Only "issues" I've seen so far is that it's *really* hard to get a submission to work, and I don't know about the rest of you, but I have yet to have a fight go the distance. I've tried 10 or so matches with the aim of getting to a decision, trying to get the CPU to the ground, GnP for a while, maybe try a submission, then once he reverses, then reverse it back up to the feet, do a few leg kicks, throw some jabs then get it back to the ground. Usually this method ends up with me getting knocked out at some point in the third as I can't block all the head shots the CPU does land while we're in the standup.

Assuming part of the issue is that these are two pretty good fighters and the game is likely geared towards as few judges decisions as possible, but it does seem really slanted towards KO's (TKO's are pretty common IRL, but I'm getting a lot of one shot style KO's with each fighter).

That all said, first time knocking out a guy with the head kick, flying knee, spinning back fist, superman punch or overhead right were all pretty sweet. Still playing the hell out of the demo and will be picking this up when it's released.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Only "issues" I've seen so far is that it's *really* hard to get a submission to work, and I don't know about the rest of you, but I have yet to have a fight go the distance. I've tried 10 or so matches with the aim of getting to a decision, trying to get the CPU to the ground, GnP for a while, maybe try a submission, then once he reverses, then reverse it back up to the feet, do a few leg kicks, throw some jabs then get it back to the ground. Usually this method ends up with me getting knocked out at some point in the third as I can't block all the head shots the CPU does land while we're in the standup.

Assuming part of the issue is that these are two pretty good fighters and the game is likely geared towards as few judges decisions as possible, but it does seem really slanted towards KO's (TKO's are pretty common IRL, but I'm getting a lot of one shot style KO's with each fighter).

That all said, first time knocking out a guy with the head kick, flying knee, spinning back fist, superman punch or overhead right were all pretty sweet. Still playing the hell out of the demo and will be picking this up when it's released.

Everything had to be taken with a grain of salt on the demos. Difficulty levels are often set low. Build also is likely at least 2-3 weeks old, so it's not a gold version.

[sabotai]

Assuming part of the issue is that these are two pretty good fighters and the game is likely geared towards as few judges decisions as possible, but it does seem really slanted towards KO's (TKO's are pretty common IRL, but I'm getting a lot of one shot style KO's with each fighter).

Unfortunately, this seems to be the norm in fighting games. In the Fight Night series, and the Prizefighter game, I've rarely had a fight go the distance. If it did, it's because I "carried" the other fighter.

Actually, in the first Fight Night game, I did get to a decision a few times. Once I had a very close decision against Chris Byrd. I won the first few rounds easily, but because he was so defensive, I wasted a lot of energy and came back in the middle rounds. Luckily, I did enough damage to get 2 knockdowns in the last two rounds and ended up with a close unanimous decision. Those 2 knockdowns won me the fight.

It was the most fun I ever had playing a fighting game, but it was also my first career in it so I was still learning at that point. Once I learned how to play more, it became a joke. Fight Night 2 and 3 ended up being even easier.

Anyway, I'm hoping this game (and FN4) will be tougher at higher difficulty and maybe even have some sliders to tweak. But I've learned not to get expectations too high. If it has a fun career mode, I'll be buying it.

[Carman Bulldog]

Because Rua and Liddell are both more knockout guys, I think the tendency may be to have more knockouts with them, although it would be nice if this was toned down a bit.

Playing as Demian Maia, I don't see you knocking the other guy out much. However, I do hope in the final version submissions are a bit easier, otherwise there could be a lot of lay and pray victories with guys like Maia.

[Deattribution]

They said in some videos it's also more dependent on the weight class you're using to fight. Heavyweights and Light Heavyweights will see more knock outs than Lightweights.

I think they have Chuck a bit over rated in comparison to Shogun's striking which also skews things a bit.

[Travis]

Update:

Got one fight to a decision yesterday (but may have fried my laptop in the mean time, hence why no update until now, heh). Playing as Rua and just kept the fight on the ground going GnP as much as possible along with a lot of leg kicks and blocks during the stand up. Found it very funny that all 3 judges scored the fight differently as I picked up the unanimous decision.

Cards were: 30-24, 30-25 and 30-27. Normally I'd say this is an issue, but given judge scoring at UFC events I'd say this might be pretty bang on. It was a pretty one sided affair so I didn't mind seeing that many 10-8 rounds.

Also saw a submission (Rua with a triangle, unfortunately I was playing as Chuck in that match). Still the only finish I've seen via submission, but it did finally happen.

Lastly, after finishing off a pair of fights on the first punch in the second round, started wondering how quickly a match could be finished early (especially given the two included in the demo) and can verify that one can get a KO in about 10 seconds ;) A spinning backfist followed by 2 or 3 overhand rights were more than Rua could handle and down he went at the 10 second mark of the first round. My next best mark is 30 seconds, so obviously everything went pretty much perfectly in that example, but it was cool to get a win that fast.

[Icy]

A quick way to get a win with Rua in the highest level is just to get Chuck in the muay thai clinch and hit him with the knees on the body sides, his stamina drains so fast, then you just need a good kick in the head to K.O him.

Standing fighting might be a bit too powerful compared with the ground one, at least with the two guys in the demo.

[EagleFan]

A quick way to get a win with Rua in the highest level is just to get Chuck in the muay thai clinch and hit him with the knees on the body sides, his stamina drains so fast, then you just need a good kick in the head to K.O him.

Standing fighting might be a bit too powerful compared with the grown one, at least with the two guys in the demo.

I am hoping that is because they focused on luring people with the big knockout in the demo and that it's not the completely finished product (or that is tweakable in some way).

As much fun as the demo is, it may get repetitive quite quickly if every fight ends up in a knockout.

[Deattribution]

I am hoping that is because they focused on luring people with the big knockout in the demo and that it's not the completely finished product (or that is tweakable in some way).

As much fun as the demo is, it may get repetitive quite quickly if every fight ends up in a knockout.

I think it's not too bad, take Shogun for instance, only 2 of his fights have ended in decision in his entire career, and for Chuck it's less than 40% of his fights ended in a decision.

They've tried to mirror how the fighters actually are, and I think for the two fighters they have in the demo it's pretty accurate. Both fighters go to fight all out.

[Icy]

Nice career mode video, i can't wait for this game:

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[Flasch186]

cant wait!

[Icy]

I'm still having big problems winning by submission.

I can win matches in the max level with both guys by standing KO or on the ground, but mainly by ground and pound, not by submission, so i guess my created guy will be an striking monster and will try to win all games while standing.

[Travis]

I'm planning on starting off with a Muay Thai/wrestler. Looking for clinch fighting while standing, the ability to pull off big slams, then go for GnP. Once I'm comfortable with him then I might try a BJJ guy and really try to figure out the submission system.

[DaddyTorgo]

i want to buy a ps3 just for this game and mlb:the show

[DeToxRox]

Anyone interested in a FOFC UFC League?

On another forum I visit they decided on two weight limits, and there is a 2 round draft where you pick one from each. They had 12 guys involved. Then a schedule is made so everyone fights twice a week (once per character) leading to a playoff.

Could be something worth doing if we have the interest.

[Flasch186]

Im afraid, off the bat, my thumbs place me at a severe disadvantage.....

theyre there, theyre fine, but my brain doesnt seem to make them work with the game controllers these days like the old days. I seemed to lose touch after the N64 honestly.

[Travis]

Anyone interested in a FOFC UFC League?

On another forum I visit they decided on two weight limits, and there is a 2 round draft where you pick one from each. They had 12 guys involved. Then a schedule is made so everyone fights twice a week (once per character) leading to a playoff.

Could be something worth doing if we have the interest.

I'm assuming you're talking on the 360?

If there's a PS3 league I'd be interested.

[rafini]

I'm in for any 360 league.

[Scoobz0202]

I'm in for any 360 league.

+1

[Flasch186]

PS3 here

[Icy]

PS3 here too.

[heybrad]

I'm in for any 360 league.
Me too.

[Eaglesfan27]

Just saw the first review (a glowing one):

GameShark | Reviews | UFC 2009 Undisputed Review (http://www.gameshark.com/reviews/3257/p_10/UFC-2009-Undisputed-Review.htm)


Count me in for any 360 league.

[Deattribution]

A lot of Gamestops are having midnight releases, while Bestbuy has a pretty good deal where you get a 10 dollar giftcard, a 14.99 UFC dvd of your choice and 10 dollars towards a ppv along with the game for 60 bucks.

[EagleFan]

Initially disappointed that the ones ear me are not doing the midnight release but it is probably for the best as I could easily see this turning into an all nighter and a sick day tomorrow. As it is I am off on Wednesday so I know what I'll be doing for some of that day.

[SirFozzie]

I think I'll pick up both UFC and Punch Out tonight

[dubb93]

I think I'll try my luck at wal mart tonight.

[SirFozzie]

1 out of 2. Got UFC, PUnchout hadn't gotten there yet

[Logan]

Finally downloaded the demo and will buy it tomorrow. Had a lot of trouble with the controls (outside of just standing striking)...with Liddell, getting takedowns, reversals, etc. But I just noticed someone said there's a tutorial, hopefully that helps.

[JS19]

Wow, there are a shitload of controls to figure out. Like Logan said, having a lot of trouble, minus the simple punches and kicks. I'll admit, I was too anxious to jump right into it, I skipped the tutorial, so I should probably check that out.

[Calis]

Grabbing this at lunch today. It's definitely the most I've ever played a demo.

I'm a little leery of how much of a difference there will be between fighters.

I'm a little disappointed with the early feedback on the career mode though. It sounds like you jump to the top pretty quickly and end up facing the top 2-3 guys in your division over and over again for a good number of your fights. Wish they had added more randomized fighters to throw into the career.

Can't wait to start playing though. I think it'll be a LONG time before I pick Shogun or Chuck again though. ;)

[Flasch186]

well with the DLC I believe the game willl continue evolving...

I made it to 1115 last night and fell asleep so ill have to pick it up this morning as Im off today and tomorrow.

[Icy]

Grrr patiently waiting for the Euro release date on 22th.

[cartman]

Finally downloaded the demo and will buy it tomorrow. Had a lot of trouble with the controls (outside of just standing striking)...with Liddell, getting takedowns, reversals, etc. But I just noticed someone said there's a tutorial, hopefully that helps.

Wow, there are a shitload of controls to figure out. Like Logan said, having a lot of trouble, minus the simple punches and kicks. I'll admit, I was too anxious to jump right into it, I skipped the tutorial, so I should probably check that out.

Yeah, the tutorial isn't an optional piece in this game. The controls change depending on the fighting style of your guy, so certain moves aren't available to everyone. The tutorial is long, but it does open up the game and make it a lot more enjoyable. Especially when you play someone who hasn't done the tutorial and they say "How in the hell did you do that?". :D

[DeToxRox]

Playing now. Fuck the world.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Hadn't seen it mentioned in this thread yet, but if you buy the game at Best Buy, you get a $10 gift card with the purchase.

[Logan]

Did the tutorial and it definitely helped. Heading out to grab the game in a bit, but real quick...when I knock a guy down with a punch, what do I hit to get on top of him?

[DeToxRox]

Did the tutorial and it definitely helped. Heading out to grab the game in a bit, but real quick...when I knock a guy down with a punch, what do I hit to get on top of him?

Right stick

[DeToxRox]

I'm 2-1 early on in my career on Advance. My guy is a lightweight Boxer/Wrestler. The one I lost I went in for a takedown and ate shit with a knee from hell.

[Logan]

Right stick

Thanks, knew it was simple.

I'm 2-1 early on in my career on Advance. My guy is a lightweight Boxer/Wrestler. The one I lost I went in for a takedown and ate shit with a knee from hell.

Just did that to Rua in the demo. Devastating.

[DeToxRox]

Lost my first fight online when I got KO'd by Huerta with a head kick. I was Thiago in the fight. A lot of fun for sure.

[heybrad]

I'm angling to leave work early to get this today. I'm buying it either way today but would love to get a head start.

If anybody wants to fight online tonight, let me know. I'll confirm once I have it.

[DeToxRox]

I'll be on after the Wings, so I am in for sure.

[DeToxRox]

0-2 online. I was Bisping vs Anderson Silva. I got TKO'd in the 3rd round.

[DeToxRox]

3rd fight in I ran into a cheeser. He picked Mir and just kept throwing superman punches. Pretty fucking absurd.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Lost my first fight online when I got KO'd by Huerta with a head kick. I was Thiago in the fight. A lot of fun for sure.

0-2 online. I was Bisping vs Anderson Silva. I got TKO'd in the 3rd round.

3rd fight in I ran into a cheeser. He picked Mir and just kept throwing superman punches. Pretty fucking absurd.

I'm going to cruise around Berkley looking for a guy getting his ass kicked in this game so I can cat call you.

[DeToxRox]

I'm going to cruise around Berkley looking for a guy getting his ass kicked in this game so I can cat call you.

You sure hold grudges.

[DeToxRox]

I finally won online with a KO of Silva with Dan Henderson. This guy was just doing up kicks from the mat so I'd let the ref bring is back together, then I clinched him and exploded with punches. Rocked him back and then a big overhand right dropped him.

[Honolulu_Blue]

You sure hold grudges.

It's only been one day. You haven't seen nothing yet. I am going to be that creepy Japanese ghost kid to your Sarah Michelle Gellar.

[Honolulu_Blue]

I finally won online with a KO of Silva with Dan Henderson. This guy was just doing up kicks from the mat so I'd let the ref bring is back together, then I clinched him and exploded with punches. Rocked him back and then a big overhand right dropped him.

the grudge is off you sound dangerous

[Flasch186]

Game of the year...although I dont think Im going to buy any other ones and havnt before this so what the hell do i know.

Calling for a dynasty though with the rankings and cards and such.

[sabotai]

Preordered this and it was waiting for me when I got home from work. Woot! Thought I'd be waiting a few extra days.

[EagleFan]

This game rocks!!!

Just tried my first two online fights. Had weird lag and lost my first fight when I caught a spinning elbow.

Second fight was a back and forth one into the second round when I slipped under a punch and took Silva down. From there I hammer fisted him until the ref stopped the fight.

I sucked my first few fights with my SP career and have had to learn how to play the game the right way. Playing the demo has made me build up some bad habbits that you can't get away with in a normal fight.

[JS19]

So, I'm playing in career mode, and can't figure out for the life of me how to mount my opponent when I rock him and he goes to the mat. Either I'm slightly retarded, which very well can be the case, or I need to build my ground game up in order to mount an opponent? Any ideas?

[SirFozzie]

It's the right stick (not sure click, or right stick towards your opponent)

[EagleFan]

So, I'm playing in career mode, and can't figure out for the life of me how to mount my opponent when I rock him and he goes to the mat. Either I'm slightly retarded, which very well can be the case, or I need to build my ground game up in order to mount an opponent? Any ideas?

If he's down and dazed don't mount but just walk over top of him and start pounding away and you'll get a TKO.

[JS19]

That's what I do, just curious as to how to mount in case the situation comes about.

Another question, in career mode, when you are in your pre-fight training, do you want to go into the fight at %100 stamina? or do you use all of your percentage points training in the last week of training and you go into the fight automatically at 100%?

[Calis]

Only got a chance to go through a few matches so far but it's a big thumbs up from me so far.

Used Rampage and Wanderlei to beat up on Chuck a few times(and get knocked out a time or two). I'm really loving the clinch in this game, and Wanderlei seems to be much better at than even Shogun was. I haven't checked the ratings to see if I'm imagining it, but I completely manhandled Chuck in the clinch.

So many fights I want to try out. I need to make myself just go through some careers first or I'll never get to it. :)

Edit: Just checked and Wandy is a 92 in Clinch Offense which is much much higher than Shogun or even Anderson Silva who is just at 79. The difference definitely shows.

[DeToxRox]

Going online after not playing the demo for so long was not smart. I am 5-15 and effectivley the Glass Joe of MMA.

With that said, 9 of my losses have come to Rashad and Mir who're both way too good.

[sabotai]

Playing a career. Lost my first fight since I didn't really know what I was doing. Went on a 6 match winning streak. Got KO'ed by the 6th rank fighter (Welterweight, forget his name). Next fight, I won by KO in the 1st round after 25 seconds.

Need to stop playing. Thumb hurts like hell...

[dubb93]

I cranked it up to Expert before my first fight right after I finished the tutorial(I never played the demo). My first four or five hours of playing I managed to win a total of one fight(I beat Brock Lesnar as Big Nog by submission). Now I love the way it plays. I can really tell the different styles and I win most of my fights. My only fear is that the game is becoming too easy to me. If that is the case this game won't have any legs for me.

[Flasch186]

i mistakenly skipped a bunch of camp invits and missed out on leveling up quite a bit early so NOW my record and my talent level and therefore abilities dont add up. I beat Leben but just got crushed by Kampman because I cant muay thai head kick yet....clinch and knee you in the f'n forehaed though!

[JS19]

How do these camp invites work? I keep getting the choice of which one I want, I hit accept, and nothing happens. From what I've been able to put together, when you get X amount of invites from whichever camp you chose, you are able to unlock different items.

[DeToxRox]

Online I was Arlovski vs Brock, and I KO'd the guy in 7 seconds.

[Calis]

How do these camp invites work? I keep getting the choice of which one I want, I hit accept, and nothing happens. From what I've been able to put together, when you get X amount of invites from whichever camp you chose, you are able to unlock different items.

It doesn't happen right away. If you accept a camp invite at some point down the road it'll pop-up. You have to make sure and notice it on the calendar and go to action like you would for a fight.

They give you a series of tasks to do, like land a certain number of a move or pull off a combo and you get points. You need so many points to level up your skill, so it'll take multiple camp visits.

After 5 visits with the same camp you unlock their logo.

There was a pretty decent(as good as we'll get I'm betting) Fedor that I saw on the Sherdog forums so I went ahead and made him in career and have been building him up. Been having a blast with it. Think I'm 10-2 now, but I was massacred by the higher tier guys when I fought them. I'm still not doing great in sparring so I end up wasting a lot of weeks and did mediocre on my camps. I'm going to keep it going though as a trial run. They throw you in way over your head very quickly though.

The majority of my fights have been ground and pound style victories. I'm getting vicious on the ground and seem to be getting a little better at controlling. I just have to get better with stamina management.

I'd also like to take this moment to apologize to Fedor for losing to Justin McCully. I am obviously no Fedor.

[JS19]

Wow, thanks for that explanation, I would have never caught on to that. I just put the game down for the night, but now I think I might have to fire it back up to check that out. So much for a good nights sleep.

[dubb93]

My career isn't going too hot either. I'm 7-3 with 7 KOs, yet every time I get a fight with a real UFC fighter I fail. I'm 0-3 that route. I have a 1st round sub loss to Nakamura(I think that's his name), and 2 3rd round KO's(I was up in both fights) to James Irvin and Tim Boetsch. The fight against Nakamura was WAY before I was ready to be fighting the real guys, I think if I got him again there would probably be a different result, same for the other two guys and they both caught me while being way down in the first two rounds.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

I did see that quitters are not penalized online, so expect the worst in that regard if you're an online player who likes to play random players. Might want to fight a group of friends instead.

[EagleFan]

Holy crap do I suck online!!! I have not won a ranked fight yet, I do okay in unranked but suck worse than Romo in a playoff game in ranked matches.

[Carman Bulldog]

Anyone having any better luck with subs?

[Flasch186]

nothing online yet but Im having a ball playing my middleweight career.

[sabotai]

My career isn't going too hot either. I'm 7-3 with 7 KOs, yet every time I get a fight with a real UFC fighter I fail. I'm 0-3 that route. I have a 1st round sub loss to Nakamura(I think that's his name), and 2 3rd round KO's(I was up in both fights) to James Irvin and Tim Boetsch. The fight against Nakamura was WAY before I was ready to be fighting the real guys, I think if I got him again there would probably be a different result, same for the other two guys and they both caught me while being way down in the first two rounds.

One of the things you have to be careful of, especially in the 3rd round, is getting hit with a strong attack when you are out of short term stamina. I turned on the Stamina display for a few fights to see what was going on. In those fights where you win the first two rounds, you are probably using so much stamina in thoser rounds to win them that just one or two punches/kicks leaves you w/o any stamina and then you get hit by a strong attack, and then it's lights out.

[Scoobz0202]

I'm hopping online right now and should be on for awhile tonight. If anybody is wanting to play some matches online hit me up:

I have it for 360.


Gamertag: ButtherNutz

[Flasch186]

and a UFC headline event against Hendo Dan Henderson fot the UFC Middleweight Championship of the World and 2 rounds on my back pulling Hendo into clinch after clinch saw me into the 3rd where I finally got him into a Muay Thai clinch and swung him into a brutal knee that knocked him out!!

WOOHOO


spectacular game.

[EagleFan]

and a UFC headline event against Hendo Dan Henderson fot the UFC Middleweight Championship of the World and 2 rounds on my back pulling Hendo into clinch after clinch saw me into the 3rd where I finally got him into a Muay Thai clinch and swung him into a brutal knee that knocked him out!!

WOOHOO


spectacular game.

Sweet. I love that Muay Thai clinch / knee.


Anyone have any luck with submissions yet? I have gotten to the "second" phase of a submission but never able to cinch it in. Is it just like advancing through the guard positions once you start it or am I missing a button/step?

[Scoobz0202]

I have some luck with them. I just wait until I feel that the other guy was wasting too much energy to do them. Then once I initiate it I just pound the hell out of A (360). Got one on Anderson Silva last night in a live ranked match.

[EagleFan]

I have some luck with them. I just wait until I feel that the other guy was wasting too much energy to do them. Then once I initiate it I just pound the hell out of A (360). Got one on Anderson Silva last night in a live ranked match.

I'll have to try that approach. I am focusing more on the thumb stick than the buttons, maybe that is doing it.

[dubb93]

I agree with the mashing the hell out of a button approach. Wish there was more to it.

[Flasch186]

lost the belt to Anderson Silva at the next UFC and then went on to lose a fight against Michael Bisping so Ive dropped back quite a bit....

I have a very difficult time registering combos so that is setting me back quite a bit.

[duff88]

How do you defend the Muay Thai clinch/knees? So far, I've only found striking my way out of it to be the only solution.

[JS19]

Finished a fight and received a message from Dana White. It says I need to retire when the yr is over, that the commission won't allow me to fight anymore. Found that pretty interesting and I'm curious to see how it plays out. I've fought a bunch, won a lot more than I've lost but when I make my way up the ranks, I can't beat the top guys (Liddell and Tito). I can'y remember now, but can you refuse a fight (I always accept the fight with the highest ranking guy) and take time off, or do you have to pick one of the options they give you? I wonder if that plays into it, assuming you don't have to fight all the time. I wouldn't mind starting again, although I still suck, I think I can build my character up a little better from the get go now that I somewhat know what I'm doing.

[SirFozzie]

You're limited to a seven year career.

And yes, Muay Thai clinch/knees (and headkicks when your CAF hits level 2) are fucking scary!

edit: The best way to break a Muay Thai clinch from what I've heard is:

reverse.. best way to get out of it, if they throw high punch = right stick up and low punch, kick=right stick down

[Calis]

You can't refuse to fight all together, you always have to have one setup. You can refuse to fight on short notice though and I think it's best to do so almost every time. I've started a 2nd career after learning a few things from my first one. I think it's really important that you pick the worst guy to fight you can for a long time. They throw you in over your head quickly.

I still mess up a lot. I made a middleweight Boxing/Wrestling guy who is big into the standup and clinch work. Let me say that uppercuts from the single collar tie-up are just about as sweet as knees from thai clinch. :) I've had some really epic fights that have been a complete blast. I've had some wars with top BJJ guys like Maia/Leites. Thales Leites I just can't crack. I'm 0-3 against him now.

I have a tough time in the wrestling camps picking up points, so I've wasted a lot of weeks in there only getting 20 points. I mess up sparring a lot also so I end up getting miniscule amounts of points on occassion. The points you get from a good session definitely skyrocket when you get a higher level partner though.

Think I'm 15-5 now. I've beat some pretty decent guys like Maia/Marquardt but haven't cracked the top 5 guys yet. It's still a bit tough for me to avoid takedowns, so anyone with a good ground game takes me down at will. I can scramble pretty well to get back up but I keep mis-managing my stamina and getting caught in subs.

My game of the year so far though. I'm off today and tomorrow and will probably be spending the majority of that time playing through more careers.

[Icy]

How many fights do you get on average in a full 7 years career?

I think they should have extended it at least to 10 years, like from early twenties to mid thirties.

[CleBrownsfan]

How the hell do you guys get use to these controls. I rented the damn game and I just don't feel like learning every damn button to push - I guess I'm just getting to old ;)

[Calis]

How many fights do you get on average in a full 7 years career?

I think they should have extended it at least to 10 years, like from early twenties to mid thirties.

I haven't finished a career, but I'm almost done with year 6 and will finish it with 28 fights.

So probably low to mid 30's for the full career. I imagine if you take some of the short notice fights you'll get a few more fights in there. I've passed up every single one of those.

This career is going to end up a failure for me overall. I have a year left and I'm just not good enough at sparring to get the points I need. The highlight of my career was knocking out Rich Franklin in the 2nd round of our fight, but I was just mauled by Dan Henderson. I'm completely unable to stuff takedowns.

Think I'll try a BJJ guy now. Need to get better on the ground and work on submissions. I think it's a lot easier to sub a human than the CPU, because the CPU from what I've seen seems very good about not expending too much energy unless you're knocking them around. Humans you can catch quite often overextending themselves and get them.

The CPU on the other hand has no issues with subbing me. :)

[JS19]

I've tried making my guy strong on the ground. I think I have my submission in the 70 range, but I still haven't been able to perform one. From my understanding, you need to click R3 (PS3) then rotate the R stick, which I assume just means rotate it in a circle, or just pound the hell out of the O button.

When it comes to sparring, unfortunately I've found it most effective to just try to pound the hell out of your opponent, rather than actually trying to work on your weakness. You gain more points this way.

[NevStar]

Had my first online win last night. Quick match put me with somebody who was 28-0 (I was 0-1). The first round didn't go well, he took me down about 6 times. I was able to hold off his ground & pound once we got to the ground, but was pretty cut up.

Second round was just like the first, as he within 45 seconds he was able to take me down, mount & armbar me, but I was able to fight out of it. He tried taking me down again, but this time, I blocked & sprawled. From sprawl, I locked on a guillotine & he tapped! Woo!!

This was my 1st submission, I've never even been able to sub the CPU. I really like how finishes can come out of nowhere. I was dominated the entire match, but made one good counter & that was enough.

I gained enough bonus points from that match (for breaking another player's win streak) to jump from level 1 to level 6.

In my career, I have a LHW boxer/wrestler who's 9-3. He's about on the level of UFN main eventer, but has failed miserably when moving up to PPVs. Losses were in my tryout match (by decision, I got screwed!), 1st round TKO to Rampage (he dominated me) & 3rd round TKO to Silva (GNP from the mount with 5 seconds left... good fight, but I probably would've lost the decision).

Going from wrestling lv1 to lv2 took 5 camp visits & gave me crap for extra moves. The boxing camp seems a lot easier.

Why wouldn't you want to fight on short notice (as long as you can get your stamina up)? More fights = more cred = more improvements unlocked sooner.

[Scoobz0202]

Just won the Light Heavyweight title against Evans.

As I hit the top ten I was 8-1, but lost two straight to drop to 8-3 and 11th in the rankings. I realized I had a lack of grapple and ground defense and was getting worked. Worked hard to get those ratings up and ever since I haven't gone past the first round and am 14-3 with the title.

Lot of fun, though. Probably better jack up the difficulty.

[Travis]

I blitzed through a bunch last night (played until around 2am). Started off 6-0 in the LHW division until losing in the third round of a match I took on a weeks notice and went in with my stamina right around 50%.

After that, reeled off 5 straight wins to push my record to 11-1 (including revenge for my only loss) before getting a crack at Lyoto for the title.

Now I skipped a bunch of camp invites (though I did improve my wrestling by training with GSP and my muay thai by bringing Anderson Silva by, that was pretty cool) and did more Power/Speed/Cardio training than sparring just so I could get through a good section of fights, but while 10 of my first 11 wins were by stoppage (usually late first or early second), did Machida provide a wakeup call.

1:48 into the first he tapped me out with an arm bar after a prolonged series of ground work reversals by both sides (which I actually initiated with a take down that I worked to full mount before he worked in a reversal and eventually worked in the arm bar). I actually set down the controller wondering what the hell had just happened as he was pulling stuff on me I hadn't experienced to that point and realized I had pretty much played right into his fight style like I have watched so many times. Was fun trying to out reverse him on the ground but that ended up being my downfall as my stamina was in bad shape when he slapped the sub on and there went my record to 11-2.

Now that I have a taste for the career mode I'm going to bump up the difficulty and start over, taking my time to do all the extra's, but so far I'm really enjoying the game. Will be very cool to see what they can do with the next version and how they'll flesh out the extras (like the interviews/PPV appearances and training) given that I can't imagine that they'll have to over haul the fight engine too much.

[Flasch186]

I want to do a dynasty following the cards, title changes, rankings, cards and all but there is so much stuff that I cant imagine being able to get it all out on a dynasty. I hate that history flies by and there is no way to follow it without a dynasty of some sort.

[Carman Bulldog]

So I'm currently running 16 man Grand Prix's in all weight classes. Had a beauty tonight at LHW in the opening round. After the first seven fights, my quarterfinals were shaping up like this:

#1-Evans v. #8-Rua
#12-Bonnar v. #4-Griffin
#14-Boetsch v. ? - winner #6-Liddell v. #11-Irvin
#7-Wanderlei v. #2-Machida

I flip a coin to determine which fighter I control and played the opening round on "experienced". The two "upsets" being Boetsch knocking off #3 Rampage and Bonnar defeathing Thiago Silva. However, I was 7-0 controlling the fighters so far in the fights (I'll probably bump up the difficulty for the quarterfinals).

For Liddell v. James Irvin, the coin flip came out in Liddell's favour, which I was happy about, considering Boetsch had already knocked off Rampage, and I didn't need a Boetsch/Irvin winner guaranteed a semi-final birth.

Fight starts, and I come out and throw two speculative jabs with Liddell. I then go to throw a left hook to the body and he counters with a right cross, as The Sandman dropped Liddell and put him to sleep, ending the fight in seven seconds.

My jaw dropped and almost hit the ground. Great game!

[Icy]

Today is release day in Spain, will go later to my closer shop to pick it, I'm so jealous of reading you guys without me having it :D

[Calis]

Finally finished my first career. It was a mixed bag. I definitely messed some things up, but ended up doing fairly well. I retired with the belt so can't complain too much.

I ended up 27-7 overall and was really on a roll when I retired. Odd that they forced me into retiring after I'd won the belt and was on a 7 fight win streak, but what can you do.

I was surprised mostly by the fact that when I finally fought Anderson Silva which I'd been dreading the whole career it was really pretty simple. I'm not sure if he's underpowered somehow or maybe my Anti-Silva build to my guy just mauled him, but I ended up fighting him 3 times and never had anything approaching a problem with him.

Dan Henderson on the other hand gave me fits. I did manage to finally beat him in a title defense but it was a lucky knockdown and ref stoppage because I was getting my ass kicked. Rich Franklin was also a very tough fight for me, because his body shots seemed particularly brutal. Chunk of stamina gone every punch.

I ended with a pretty weak rating. I was just 80 overall and I did terrible for the most part sparring. I had tons of sessions where I got minimal points. I have a lot more trouble sparring than I do in actual fights. I think the rating is a little misleading as I did have 100 in standing strikes, 92 in defense and then solid defense in everything else and decent clinching/ground control/ground strikes. Main attributes ended at 90 Strength/79 Speed/76 Cardio. The strength is a huge factor as even my jab would be effective, and my hooks were brutal.

I HATE the wrestling training camps. I ended up with my Wrestling at level 2 and just stopped trying. The tasks can be a pain, and when you're training camp partner does absolutely nothing to help you accomplish the tasks it is frustrating. He'd never punch me when I needed a counter grapple, and he'd never take me down when I needed a sprawl. One thing I found really frustrating.

Overall the career mode definitely needs work but I'm happy with it for a first outing. I'll definitely try it out a few more times. I might be in the minority but I'm happy there are no "mini-games" to raise stats like in Fight Night. I find those to be annoying more than anything. I like that it's stuff that can actually help you get better at the game.

Need to add aging to the career and a good random fighter generator and that would be a huge boost right there.

I did a couple classic fights for fun also. Griffin/Bonnar and Rampage/Chuck 2. Those are pretty neat. You get a video shown by Rachelle Leah hyping up the fight and showing some of the pre-fight talk. If you meet the requirement you unlock a highlight package of the actual fight. Not much reason for replaying these of course, but it was a neat little extra.

[Eaglesfan27]

Completely noob question (just got knocked out in my 2nd fight of my career): I'm a kickboxer but I can't figure out how to do kicks to the face. All of my kicks are to the body or the legs if I use a modifier.

[Calis]

Kickboxers in career should have high kicks from the start. You want to use L1 + kick.

[Eaglesfan27]

Thanks, that worked. I knew it was a stupid question (and I forgot about the L1 modifier despite doing the tutorial yesterday.)

[Eaglesfan27]

Dola -

Darn it. Just got my first really big knockout with a kick to the head and then one of my cats jumped on the 360 knocking a cord out and causing it to get an error message. :(

Edit: Cool, apparently it was finished autosaving before the error message :)

[Flasch186]

I hate the fact that as a Muay Thai fighter I dont get kicks to the face out of the gates....I have to go to a bunch of camps to Level up.

[Icy]

I started my first career as kickboxer/judo in advanced level.
Started horrible, 0-2 but then i started to train mainly my standing attack and takedown defense, and i'm now 3-2 with 3 straight K.O. in the first round, all three after a head kick. I'm a beast as long as i'm not taken down.

[dubb93]

I just got absolutely dismantled by Wanderlei Silva in my career. Was my first headling fight(and it was just an UFN). My fighter is only rated 49 overall and I'm playing on the highest difficulty level so I didn't really expect to beat him, I just didn't expect it to end up as lopsided as it was. I was coming off of three straight KOs of Stephan Bonnar(x2) and James Irvin. Totally different animal there.

He put me in a Muay Thai clinch within the first minute and I was absolutely helpless. He eventually knee'd me in the face to the point where I fell to the ground helpless and he stood over me and pounded me in the face until I was finished.

[Icy]

Shit, lost another one, an this is my second lose mainly because i misscalculated my training/rest and went into the fight at 50% energy.

[Eaglesfan27]

Another noob question: How long does it take for someone to show up to visit your camp once you invite them? I got the opportunity to invite someone a few weeks ago and thought I selected them, but my kickboxing is still at level 1.

[Voo]

Look on the calendar and you'll see a little octagon symbol. At that point you have to go down to action to train. If you just train/spar/rest you will skip it, so you have to make sure to watch for them.

[DeToxRox]

How much do you guys spar before a fight? And when you spar what do you do to get the most points? Just strike? Or work on clinching, ground game, etc

[Eaglesfan27]

Look on the calendar and you'll see a little octagon symbol. At that point you have to go down to action to train. If you just train/spar/rest you will skip it, so you have to make sure to watch for them.

Thanks, I see it. Looks like it is about 2 months after I invited him in this case.

[Eaglesfan27]

Dola -

I've never really cared about achievements, but this game has some of the most fun achievements. I just sent a guy's mouthpiece flying 20 feet or so :)

[EagleFan]

Did have my first WTF moment of the game. Had a fight against Kongo as a PPV undercard. I knew it was going to be my fighters biggest challenge of the game so far so I actually tried a few exhibitions against him to see what to expect.

After two very close rounds where I was able to keep him from landing a big knockout blow the third was close. Midway through I back off him just a bit to try a head kick and he did a spinning punch at the same time. My kick glanced off his side and caused his punch to be altered to where if anything the tips of his fingers touched me (at most) but my fighter went down like I was just shot for the knockout loss. When it first happened it was a WTH moment then the replays came and made it a WTF moment.

The most frustrating part is that I think I was fighting the most techniclly sound fight that I have with this game at that point. If it was a clean shot that knocked me out I would have been disappointed about it but accepted it as an it happens in this sport kind of thing.

Oh well, just had to vent a bit. It just seemed like the outcome of that punch was decided when it was thrown instead of when it landed.

[Eaglesfan27]

If you change the difficulty level in the options menu, does it change mid-career? I started out at beginner and after knocking out 2 opponents in a row, I've upped it to "experienced" but I'm still knocking out everyone easily. Then again, I'm only up to about rank 15 and I've focused on striking, kicking, and strength.

[JS19]

How much do you guys spar before a fight? And when you spar what do you do to get the most points? Just strike? Or work on clinching, ground game, etc

During a sparring session, I've found it most advantageous to just try to beat the hell out of the guy as much as possible. If they are able to take you to the ground, you will gain points by gaining the better position, or getting back to your feet. My approach is to just try to get as many strikes/damage in as possible.

[Calis]

Yeah when sparring damage difference is going to be the biggest factor. You get a decent chunk of points for variety also though, so it's good to get a takedown or two, try some transitions, good points for reversing a transition and then just let them up and pound on them some more.

I so far in my careers think it's best to focus on your attributes(Str/Spd/End) first and get those way up there and then do nothing but spar the last few years. You will fight pretty solidly with high strength/endurance. You'll have to do occasional sparring to work on major weaknesses, but not often.

Also in sparring mode I just rotate one week of sparring with one week of rest. I always want that 100% endurance bonus for sparring.

I still find the wrestling training camps insanely frustrating.

[sabotai]

After two very close rounds where I was able to keep him from landing a big knockout blow the third was close. Midway through I back off him just a bit to try a head kick and he did a spinning punch at the same time. My kick glanced off his side and caused his punch to be altered to where if anything the tips of his fingers touched me (at most) but my fighter went down like I was just shot for the knockout loss. When it first happened it was a WTH moment then the replays came and made it a WTF moment.

Not sure how the game is determining if a blow hits or misses. It does seem like the collision detection is a bit off. I won a fight by KO with a leg kick to the head that looked like it completely missed on replay.

[sabotai]

If you change the difficulty level in the options menu, does it change mid-career? I started out at beginner and after knocking out 2 opponents in a row, I've upped it to "experienced" but I'm still knocking out everyone easily. Then again, I'm only up to about rank 15 and I've focused on striking, kicking, and strength.

Wait until you get to fighting guys in the Top 10. There's a huge disparity in talent from the Top 10 guys from the guys ranked 11th or below. I don't follow UFC but someone mentioned a huge difference between real guys and fictional. Anytime I fight someone in the Top 10 that I have heard of, it's a really tough fight (and I'm still on Beginner).

[Eaglesfan27]

Wait until you get to fighting guys in the Top 10. There's a huge disparity in talent from the Top 10 guys from the guys ranked 11th or below. I don't follow UFC but someone mentioned a huge difference between real guys and fictional. Anytime I fight someone in the Top 10 that I have heard of, it's a really tough fight (and I'm still on Beginner).


Yup. I'm seeing that now as I've lost my last 2 fights. They are much more proficient at taking me down where all of my weaknesses show since I'm made this guy almost exclusively a stand up fighter.

[Icy]

Yup. I'm seeing that now as I've lost my last 2 fights. They are much more proficient at taking me down where all of my weaknesses show since I'm made this guy almost exclusively a stand up fighter.

That is exactly how i'm losing my last fights. I'm not sure if it's just the rivals i'm facing or that they AI is adapting to fight my big striking power and taking me down quickly to avoid it.

I'm right now 6-5, my 6 wins have been K.O. and all them after a kick to the head, my 5 loses are after being dominated in the ground and getting K.O. by ground and pound.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Haven't got the game yet, but they were pimping the heck out of this game on the UFC pay-per-view event last night. Showed several of the 'virtual' fighters that fought last night.

[Eaglesfan27]

This game is so much fun. I've lost twice to Mirko Cro Cop and it was very satisfying when I finally beat him. My first fight to go multiple rounds, I caught him trying to one of his patented high kicks, but sidestepped it and nailed him with a kick to the body, followed by a right hook to the head which dazed him before I finished him off with a right kick to the face. Most satisfying knockout yet.

My only knock on the game is the low number of fighters to go against.

[JS19]

Anyone having any luck with submissions? I can't seem to get them locked in. I know subs aren't a guaranteed thing, but I had my guy built up to a 90 in subs and still couldn't get them. I'm assuming you need to wait until your opponent is low on energy and such, but my trouble with that is, as I try to soften up my opponent with punches and kicks and such, I usually end up knocking them out before I can get them to the ground and go for the sub.

[Voo]

Anyone having any luck with submissions? I can't seem to get them locked in. I know subs aren't a guaranteed thing, but I had my guy built up to a 90 in subs and still couldn't get them. I'm assuming you need to wait until your opponent is low on energy and such, but my trouble with that is, as I try to soften up my opponent with punches and kicks and such, I usually end up knocking them out before I can get them to the ground and go for the sub.

With my current career I've forced submissions in 5 of 11 fights. The key is get them when their stamina is low, the preferred method for me is grapple blocking a kick, this brings us down on the ground and drops their stamina a bit. At that point its pretty much slap it on and mash the buttons, if they break out of it you have a small window to get back to them before they completely recover, but it is a pain in the ass.

[DeToxRox]

For subs, I palm the RS and rotate it as fast as possible with smith circles. It works a great deal but I have a nice blister from it.

[Calis]

If anyone is like me and likes to model guys that aren't in the game for their career fighters there's a good site out there that is hosting created fighters and formulas for them.

UFC-CAF (http://forums.ufc-caf.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=gj2rltfgl1dsfrkvq191md33m4&board=4.0)

There are some pretty good ones there already and some great screenshots posted without formulas yet. I think in a few days we'll start to see a pretty decent collectiou on there.

The system leaves a lot to be desired, but people are doing a pretty decent job with it.

If only you could individually assign moves to fighters like you could in the Pride game rather than just giving them the styles. I wish they at least had a "cheat" that you unlocked by finishing a career or something to where you could have max points to just create a fighter. Block them from online play if you want, but I'd like to be able to make the guys I wanted without having to slog through the career every time.

[Carman Bulldog]

Regarding subs, here's my experience...

I've had way more luck with mashing the buttons than twirling the stick. I go two fingers on X/Y and two on A/B and start doing the alternate taps back and forth with each hand.

Also, submissions have very little to do with the stamina meter and everything to do with the energy meter (although in essence, they share the same bar). Stamina though is long term while energy is short term.

Basically, for a sub to be successful, you need to drain the other fighters energy (the bar that starts green on top of the stamina meter) and then slap on the sub. It doesn't need to be completely gone when you slap the sub on, but should be low.

Take a guy down and move to side control or mount. Stuff a couple of sweeps and then go for a sub (the higher up the pyramid you are, the easier it also seems to pull off).

If you do wear him down with punches/kick/knees to the body, then his stamina will wear down, and his energy meter won't go as high. However, if a guy is active from the bottom in trying to escape and sweep, you can finish him off without throwing a single strike in the fight. Now, some fighters will just lay there and not try to sweep, and those guys will prove much tougher to sub.

[Flasch186]

are created fighters used in a SP career mode? or are they only for your own usage?

[DeToxRox]

I have all of a sudden lost all my ability to transition. I am not sure what the hell is going on but I went on a horrid cold streak playing online vs a friend. I keep getting myself tapped. So frustrating.

[Travis]

I've got one fight left in my HW career then I'll have a created guy ready for any online FOFC PS3 tournaments. On that note, what weights are people playing through at? I'm going to start up a new career once I'm done this one so will do so at a weight class that will work with what others will have ready.

[Eaglesfan27]

My first career fighter is a HW Kickboxer. I'll be looking for a 360 tourney.

[Icy]

I have finished a career with a Light Heavy Weight in PS3 (advanced difficulty), 25-15 record if i remember well, but never held the belt, just fought for it once and lost.

He was mainly a heavy standing hitter, now i want to start another one with a ground guy as i have learned a lot in my past career.

[JS19]

After having my first career guy basically a standup boxing type, I decided to start a new one concentrating most of my efforts on the ground. Its been a lot more fun, as I've been able to perform a couple subs, and I've been able to build my Muay Thai so I can grab him and use my strikes if I wanna switch it up a bit. I just finished a fight with Sylvia, and I was impressed. The few fights before I had no problem getting my opponents in the clinch, throwing them to the ground, and proceed to punish them. Sylvia was able to pretty much counter the majority of my takedown attempts, whether in the clinch or not, and reverse a lot of my ground movements. Wasn't until the 3rd round as he started to tire where I was able to get most of my takedowns and land a few more strikes, as I won a close decision.

[JS19]

Curious if I'm doing something wrong or not...Muay Thai clinch. Is there a specific way to approach getting one locked in? Or does it mostly depend in stamina and such, and doing it at the most opportune time? I have my guy as a Muay Thai fighter, with a lot of my skills built up. I've been able to get it, but I don't know if I'm doing something differently when I do it, other than just pushing the right stick towards my opponent, or if I just so happen to get lucky and lock it in every now and then.

[thesloppy]

I've been able to get it, but I don't know if I'm doing something differently when I do it, other than just pushing the right stick towards my opponent, or if I just so happen to get lucky and lock it in every now and then.

Add in the left shoulder bumper (360 controls....like a head kick/punch), when you're pushing the right stick to clinch upstairs, rather than at the waist.

[Travis]

On the PS3 side, to lock in a MT clinch you have to press L1 while using the right analog stick to achieve said clinch. If you don't use L1 then you'll just get a regular style. If you end up only getting one hand behind his head, just keep holding L1 and flick the right analog again and the second hand should lock in as well.

Now depending on your clinch offense vs his clinch D, the clinch may not last long or you'll be able to go to town on him.

[EagleFan]

Had my first "Hell Yeah!!!" moment (or best one so far) as my 21-7 kickboxer got a shot at the heavyweight title. After landing some punishing uppercuts, constantleg kicks to keep the champ off guard and most importantly escaping a submission attempt I landed a monster of a head kick for the knockout to win the belt.

My reward is a chance to defend the title against Mir. Wanted to stay as far away from Noguera (sp?) as possible as I have not been able to escape his submissions in a couple attempts.

[Eaglesfan27]

Had my first "Hell Yeah!!!" moment (or best one so far) as my 21-7 kickboxer got a shot at the heavyweight title. After landing some punishing uppercuts, constantleg kicks to keep the champ off guard and most importantly escaping a submission attempt I landed a monster of a head kick for the knockout to win the belt.

My reward is a chance to defend the title against Mir. Wanted to stay as far away from Noguera (sp?) as possible as I have not been able to escape his submissions in a couple attempts.


I had 6 straight successful title defenses before I made the mistake of fighting Noguera (sp?) for the first time. He submitted me with some type of freaky leg choke in under 2 minutes.

[EagleFan]

I had 6 straight successful title defenses before I made the mistake of fighting Noguera (sp?) for the first time. He submitted me with some type of freaky leg choke in under 2 minutes.

It seems like no matter how much I pounded him he eventually was able to get me down and submit me. Each time it took one take down and before I knew it I was tapping. Very frustrating. When I saw his name on the list of possible fights I decided to stay away from him for now.

[JS19]

Had my first "Hell Yeah!!!" moment (or best one so far) as my 21-7 kickboxer got a shot at the heavyweight title. After landing some punishing uppercuts, constantleg kicks to keep the champ off guard and most importantly escaping a submission attempt I landed a monster of a head kick for the knockout to win the belt.

My reward is a chance to defend the title against Mir. Wanted to stay as far away from Noguera (sp?) as possible as I have not been able to escape his submissions in a couple attempts.

Watch out for Mir, he's just as capable with the submission. I remember a fight with him, pounded the hell out of him, had him on the ground and went for some kicks and next thing I know the bastard has my leg wrapped looking like a pretzel.

[Calis]

Mir actually has a higher sub offense than Nog in the game, he's just not as high on the ground grapple to get to the nastier positions for subs. He's definitely a tough one though.

I've been working on creating a Fedor for play in exhibitions, and I'm milking the career system a bit so I can get him to a rating I'd like.

If anyone is interested in a couple ways to "game" the system- the easiest one I did was creating my Fedor as a created fighter and then using a copy to start a career. This allowed me to use the training camp logos to boost my creds. I slapped 10 Greg Jackson logos on and that's an extra 800 points a fight off the bat. Helps you get the boosts much sooner.

A couple other interesting things. If you really want to max your stats you need to lose fights. I noticed that sparring partners not only mimic the styles of the guy you are scheduled to fight, but they also seem to mimic the skill-level. The more you win the tougher they become, and when you lose they get easier. I think being ranked in the low teens or so gives you the best bang for buck that I've seen. It makes it much simpler to get 130-140 points a sparring session. The best luck I've had is making sure I pick fights against a stand-up guy so I don't have to worry about takedowns in sparring sessions. Then I either single collar clinch and spam uppercuts or just hit them with big hooks(I'm a boxer). The trick here is to get them dazed and knock them down, but don't finish the fight. You get little or nothing for a stoppage and that resets their health. If you don't finish you can easily knock them down 3-4 times a session and max your points.

You never take short fights and you never do the press events. You're going to get most of your attributes where you want them before you'd get the big equipment boosts anyway and every week is precious. I focus on nothing but Str/Spd/Sta for the first year or two. Get those where you want and then do nothing but spar. The high strength makes it pretty simple to knock down your sparring partner even with low standup skills.

I think from reading around people have been able to get fighters rated up to 110-115 overall. I'm not interested in that as I want Fedor to be on par with the tops in the division but slightly above, so I'm hoping to get him ranked 94-95 or so.

[Eaglesfan27]

It seems like no matter how much I pounded him he eventually was able to get me down and submit me. Each time it took one take down and before I knew it I was tapping. Very frustrating. When I saw his name on the list of possible fights I decided to stay away from him for now.

I never did get my title back from him. The 2nd time we fought, he submitted me in about 3 minutes. The last fight of my career (just now) was a 3rd shot at him and this time he submitted me in 45 seconds. Building on what Calis said, my overall at the end of my career is only 79, although I'm a deadly striker, I never got well balanced enough and I think that was because of terrible sparring sessions in the later stages of my career.

Oh well, I'm going to try a lightweight submission expert now, but I have a feeling I'll never be able to roll the right stick or tap the buttons fast enough to be very good at it.

[JS19]

I still suck at sparring, I never get the 144 points or whatever it is. I'm definitely gonna give your advice a try, as well as a few other things I've picked up on throughout this career. For you submission guys, and I'm assuming everyone else has already figured this out and I'm just catching up, but I've found it best that when you get your opponent on the ground, just keep blocking his transitions and his stamina drops in a heartbeat, then simply throw your sub on and there ya go.

[Eaglesfan27]

WOOT! Just got my 1st submission ever in the try out fight. Nice arm bar in the 2nd round. I also am bad at sparring. I've gotten 144 once in my whole first career.

[EagleFan]

WOOT! Just got my 1st submission ever in the try out fight. Nice arm bar in the 2nd round. I also am bad at sparring. I've gotten 144 once in my whole first career.

Nice. Still looking for my first sub. Pretty much not gonna happen with my heavyweight, though he is a monster on his feet.

I have an issue with the camps now. It is taking me forever to get some of the points in kickboxing because I end up knocking the opponent down dazed with one of the required head kicks and he is taking forever getting back to his feet and I needed all standing attacks for the remaining tasks. The last few camps have gone this way (the last one I got three flash knockouts with the head kicks). I wish the sparring sessions went that way, I would be nailing 144 each time, as it is I haven't hit 144 yet.

[Eaglesfan27]

I never did get a sub with my heavyweight. My lightweight has gotten submissions in his first 4 fights. I'm surprised how easy it is, but I'm sure it will be much harder once I start fighting the "real" fighters.

[Travis]

Speaking of subs, I got my first with my HW in his retirement fight, an armbar against Cro Cop. I had tried to get one on Mir in the previous fight, but started getting into some trouble so fell back to the stand up game. Was pretty sweet to get one to finish my career with though.

[EagleFan]

Fought Mir. Had to escape 3 submission attempts, luckily he tried them when I was not anywhere near winded. Kept getting him back to stand up and after softening him up with a couple head kicks I was able to lock him up and land a series of uppercuts that put him on the mat and gave me my first successful title defense.

This game rocks big time!!! :)

[JS19]

I've had the same issue with the camps. I'll knock the guy out too often, or he won't get up, or when my tasks are all in the standing position, my opponent is constantly going for take downs. I just chalk it up to the idea that you can't always have a great camp. I'm not saying that's what the developers were going for, but it's how I justify it to myself.

[JS19]

well, these dirty sons of bitches from whoever the hell makes the ufc game and sony have succeeded in their master plan. After trying a submission with this new palm motion I have recently been introduced to, which does work much better than trying to twirl that fucker with my finger, I have essentially destroyed my controller. Their evil plot to squeeze an extra buck out of their consumers has ended in success.

[thesloppy]

If you're on the Newegg mailing list, the 360 version of Undisputed is on sale for $40.

[cartman]

If you're on the Newegg mailing list, the 360 version of Undisputed is on sale for $40.

It is now sold out. :(

[MacroGuru]

Just have to say I played the Demo today and I am off to hunt the game down.

[Logan]

cartman et al, anyone still looking to grab this game for 360? I have to admit that while this game is certainly awesome, my lack of fighting game stick skills have me just sucking at this. With the football games coming out soon and me getting back into NHL 09, I just don't have time to get decent.

Figure before I head to ebay, I'd see if anyone here would want to take it off my hands. I've only popped it in a few times, works perfectly...seems to be going for $45 or so plus shipping on ebay, I'll let it go for $40 via paypal. Shoot me a PM, thanks.

[cartman]

If you would have pinged my on Friday, I would have taken you up on the offer. I picked it up from Costco for $50 on Friday.

[Neon_Chaos]

Anyone still playing this on the PS3?
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