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[JonInMiddleGA]

Major Winchester comes out | AccessAtlanta (http://www.accessatlanta.com/entertainment/content/entertainment/stories/2009/05/06/mash_star_comes_out.html?cxntlid=thbz_hm)

M*A*S*H star and Disney voice David Ogden Stiers recently confirmed what many probably already knew: he’s gay.

In a March interview with the blog Gossip-Boy.com, the 66-year-old actor known for his turn as Major Winchester explains he’s never fully opened up about his sexual orientation because of professional reasons.

“One is that I enjoy working, and even though many have this idealistic belief that the entertainment industry and studios like Walt Disney are gay friendly; for the most part they are, but that doesn’t mean for them that business does not come first. … From the late 1980s until about seven or eight years ago, you would find certain individuals coming up to you, me, and advocating the position that since we were doing family fare that it would be best were the actors to maintain a certain palatability to parents.”

I thought the comment was interesting largely because I don't really think most parents know who the heck does the voices in cartoons unless they happen to recognize them. Sure, there are voice geeks like me who will hit imdb to look up something that sounds familiar that I can't place but I never really thought it was all that common to notice. I mean, can you name what Disney work Stiers has done (without looking it up)?

[Honolulu_Blue]

Major Winchester comes out | AccessAtlanta (http://www.accessatlanta.com/entertainment/content/entertainment/stories/2009/05/06/mash_star_comes_out.html?cxntlid=thbz_hm)

M*A*S*H star and Disney voice David Ogden Stiers recently confirmed what many probably already knew: he’s gay.

In a March interview with the blog Gossip-Boy.com, the 66-year-old actor known for his turn as Major Winchester explains he’s never fully opened up about his sexual orientation because of professional reasons.

“One is that I enjoy working, and even though many have this idealistic belief that the entertainment industry and studios like Walt Disney are gay friendly; for the most part they are, but that doesn’t mean for them that business does not come first. … From the late 1980s until about seven or eight years ago, you would find certain individuals coming up to you, me, and advocating the position that since we were doing family fare that it would be best were the actors to maintain a certain palatability to parents.”

I thought the comment was interesting largely because I don't really think most parents know who the heck does the voices in cartoons unless they happen to recognize them. Sure, there are voice geeks like me who will hit imdb to look up something that sounds familiar that I can't place but I never really thought it was all that common to notice. I mean, can you name what Disney work Stiers has done (without looking it up)?

I wouldn't even know what Stiers looks like (without looking it up).

[JonInMiddleGA]

I wouldn't even know what Stiers looks like (without looking it up).

About like he used to look, just older.

[Ksyrup]

I don't even know who he is, let alone what he sounds like or what voices he's done.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Okay, how in the hell are there two people posting in close proximity that don't know what Major Charles Emerson Winchester looks like?

edit to add: Some of our too cool for school posters might be able to place him better if I mentioned him playing Rev. Purdy on Dead Zone or maybe Oberoth on Stargate: Atlantis

[Ksyrup]

Okay, how in the hell are there two people posting in close proximity that don't know what Major Charles Emerson Winchester looks like?


Oooooh, THAT Major Winchester.

Nope, still nothing.

[Mustang]

He was the Dad in Better Off Dead

[Cork]

Okay, how in the hell are there two people posting in close proximity that don't know what Major Charles Emerson Winchester looks like?

It's a sign of the apocolypse.

-Cork

[Mustang]

Too bad he wasn't from Texas.. that way someone could have used the 'Only thing that comes out of Texas is Stiers and Queers...'

[Passacaglia]

Justin Timberlake is David Ogden Stiers?

[Ksyrup]

He was the Dad in Better Off Dead

I probably would have gotten that clue if it hadn't been 15+ years since I've seen that movie.

Probably gonna make JIMGA pop a vessel if I tell him I've never heard of Dead Zone (movie or TV show...?) or Stargate: Atlantis. :p

[JonInMiddleGA]

Considering that somewhere in the world there has been a rerun of MASH airing at any given moment continuously for the past 15 years or so, I'm hard pressed to believe that there are many humans left on the planet that haven't seen every episode at least twice. Coma and alien abduction are pretty much the only exceptions.

[Honolulu_Blue]

He was the Dad in Better Off Dead

Ok. Now I have placed him. I was never a big fan of M*A*S*H, so while

I now can place him in the show, but I never knew what his character was called. The only names from MASH I remember are Hawkeye, Radar and Hot Lips. And I am not even sure about that last one.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Justin Timberlake is David Ogden Stiers?

No, Justin Timberlake is from Texas. You're just confused.

[Schmidty]

Okay, how in the hell are there two people posting in close proximity that don't know what Major Charles Emerson Winchester looks like?

edit to add: Some of our too cool for school posters might be able to place him better if I mentioned him playing Rev. Purdy on Dead Zone or maybe Oberoth on Stargate: Atlantis

They're too cool to use Google.

[Mustang]

Probably gonna make JIMGA pop a vessel if I tell him I've never heard of Dead Zone (movie or TV show...?) or Stargate: Atlantis. :p

I think my vessel just popped

[Kodos]

David Ogden Stiers is bringing sexy back!

[Passacaglia]

I thought the comment was interesting largely because I don't really think most parents know who the heck does the voices in cartoons unless they happen to recognize them. Sure, there are voice geeks like me who will hit imdb to look up something that sounds familiar that I can't place but I never really thought it was all that common to notice. I mean, can you name what Disney work Stiers has done (without looking it up)?

We don't watch any Disney stuff, and I don't know who this guy is, but lurker is always recognizing voices from commercials when I had no idea it was anybody famous.

[MikeVic]

I've seen like one episode of MASH and that was a very long time ago.

[JonInMiddleGA]

They're too cool to use Google.

Granted, I had to look up the SG:A reference myself since but even I occasionally watched a Dead Zone episode.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Considering that somewhere in the world there has been a rerun of MASH airing at any given moment for the past 15 years or so, I'm hard pressed to believe that there are many humans left on the planet that haven't seen every episode at least twice. Coma and alien abduction are pretty much the only exceptions.

If I see it on, I turn the channel.

Based on my childhood experiences, I associate MASH being on TV with no cartoons, super hero shows or sitcoms that I enjoyed at that age being on. I remember always being a little despressed when I heard that opening music and saw the footage of that helicopter.

[Honolulu_Blue]

They're too cool to use Google.

I used IMDB. :)

[Ksyrup]

I can honestly say I've never watched a full episode even once. All I can recall of the show generally is Alan Alda's smart ass one-liners and that one dude dressed as a woman. That's about it.

[Mustang]

I'll come out and admit it. I'm not ashamed.


I like M*A*S*H.

[JonInMiddleGA]

I can honestly say I've never watched a full episode even once.

So when did the aliens bring you back?

[Schmidty]

I can honestly say I've never watched a full episode even once. All I can recall of the show generally is Alan Alda's smart ass one-liners and that one dude dressed as a woman. That's about it.

I never really watched it because the theme song was so depressing. To this day, I frantically grab the remote when I here the dreaded noise coming on.

[Passacaglia]

I think it's been scientifically proven that everyone in this thread watched the series finale of MASH, so you all might as well get off your high horses.

[Ksyrup]

They're too cool to use Google.

We were asked if we could place his voice work without looking it up - an assumption that everyone would know who he is - so I deemed it appropriate to point out that for some people, his initial assumption was faulty.

Or, I can just simply answer the original quesiton:

No, I cannot.

[heybrad]

I can honestly say I've never watched a full episode even once.
MULE FRITTERS!!!

[lordscarlet]

I've seen like one episode of MASH and that was a very long time ago.

If I see it on, I turn the channel.

Based on my childhood experiences, I associate MASH being on TV with no cartoons, super hero shows or sitcoms that I enjoyed at that age being on. I remember always being a little despressed when I heard that opening music and saw the footage of that helicopter.

I can honestly say I've never watched a full episode even once. All I can recall of the show generally is Alan Alda's smart ass one-liners and that one dude dressed as a woman. That's about it.

+1 to all.

This is why in the never-ending death draft I think the death of the M*A*S*H guy is not as valuable as some people in that thread think. People of my generation and younger don't really give a damn about MASH.

[Dr. Sak]

HORSE HOCKEY!

[JonInMiddleGA]

I never really watched it because the theme song was so depressing.

Geez, if you recall the lyrics that accompanied the song in the film you'd really be depressed. Then again, kind of tough for a song titled "Suicide Is Painless" to be a real toe-tapper ;)

[Dr. Sak]

+1 to all.

This is why in the never-ending death draft I think the death of the M*A*S*H guy is not as valuable as some people in that thread think. People of my generation and younger don't really give a damn about MASH.

You just don't give up do you? You are the Rich Rodriquez of FOFC Drafts...the most negative guy out there towards picks besides your own.

[Ksyrup]

When did the damned show run? I was born in 1971. I don't even remember it being on when I was "TV aware." I definitely remember it in reruns, but WTF did I care about that type of show as a kid? I don't know, I just never watched it and it never interested me.

Now, Sanford and Son, I watched that shit all day and night.

[Honolulu_Blue]

You just don't give up do you? You are the Rich Rodriquez of FOFC Drafts...the most negative guy out there towards picks besides your own.

LEAVE RICH ROD ALONE

[sterlingice]

Okay, how in the hell are there two people posting in close proximity that don't know what Major Charles Emerson Winchester looks like?

edit to add: Some of our too cool for school posters might be able to place him better if I mentioned him playing Rev. Purdy on Dead Zone or maybe Oberoth on Stargate: Atlantis

Oh, him (wait, I thought that made me too nerdy, not too cool, what with Dead Zone and Stargate being known for their extensive sci-fi popular kid followings ;) )

SI

[Mustang]

I was born in 1971. I don't even remember it being on when I was "TV aware." I definitely remember it in reruns, but WTF did I care about that type of show as a kid? I don't know, I just never watched it and it never interested me.


I was born in 70 and watched it. I can even remember getting a extra point quiz in History class the day after the last episode of MASH aired with questions drawn from the show/Korean War.

[Schmidty]

Geez, if you recall the lyrics that accompanied the song in the film you'd really be depressed. Then again, kind of tough for a song titled "Suicide Is Painless" to be a real toe-tapper ;)

Yeah, that makes it even worse. Who knows, if the song had been a little more snappy, it would have been a little more successful. ;)

[Ksyrup]

Oh, him (wait, I thought that made me too nerdy, not too cool, what with Dead Zone and Stargate being known for their extensive sci-fi popular kid followings ;) )

SI

I was going to point that out - at least about something called Stargate Atlantis - but Dead Zone sounds like some early 90s slasher flick, so I wasn't so sure.

[Kodos]

My 16-year-old nephew is a big M*A*S*H fan.

[Dr. Sak]

My 16-year-old nephew is a big M*A*S*H fan.

How old is 16 in earth years?

[Mustang]

Yeah, that makes it even worse. Who knows, if the song had been a little more snappy, it would have been a little more successful. ;)

Well, with Charles Emmerson Winchester, they could get away with using the Charles in Charge theme...

Charles in charge of Our days and our nights.....

[heybrad]

BULL COOKIES!!!

[Ksyrup]

Well hell, JIMGA, if you had just told me from the beginning that he was Dr. Jumba, I would have known EXACTLY who you were talking about!!! :D

[sterlingice]

I was going to point that out - at least about something called Stargate Atlantis - but Dead Zone sounds like some early 90s slasher flick, so I wasn't so sure.

Nah, it was a nice little sci-fi show (based on a movie, based on a Stephen King book so maybe you're not that far off) that was on USA and ended a couple of years ago. It starred Anthony Michael Hall and he still barely looked 30 when it ended despite him being closer to 50.

SI

[lordscarlet]

You just don't give up do you? You are the Rich Rodriquez of FOFC Drafts...the most negative guy out there towards picks besides your own.

First, this was a very on-topic comment. Second, if you actually look at my posts in a draft I would say that I praise picks more than I am negative about them -- you just notice the negative ones more. I am also negative about my own picks. So, perhaps don't be so sensitive and just take my discussion of draft picks for what they are worth -- a discussion.

[Ksyrup]

That show aired until 1983? I definitely don't remember it at all, at least not as anything other than an old show in reruns. But I don't specifically recall watching anything on network TV before the mid-80s other than Three's Company. Maybe That's Incredible.

I think my kids watch too much TV compared to me growing up...

[Pyser]

what the hell is that thread title supposed to mean

[Fidatelo]

I have no idea who this guy is, or why I should care that he's a tiger for cock.

I also have likely only actively watched MASH 1-2 times in my entire life, and the only actor I would recognize as being someone from that show is Alan Alda.

[PackerFanatic]

Now I have the damn MASH theme song in my head. And I am of the group that also never really watched the show. Granted I was born in 1985, but still.

[Fidatelo]

what the hell is that thread title supposed to mean

I think he's trying to imply that everyone knows JT is gay, so he should just come out. Which would make sense if JT wasn't banging chicks all the time.

[RendeR]

+1 to all.

This is why in the never-ending death draft I think the death of the M*A*S*H guy is not as valuable as some people in that thread think. People of my generation and younger don't really give a damn about MASH.



Fools.

[Schmidty]

I love how people come into threads just say, "I have no idea who that is!!!111!!!111". It cracks me up for some reason.

[Ksyrup]

Who the hell is Schmidty?

[Logan]

I never really watched it because the theme song was so depressing. To this day, I frantically grab the remote when I here the dreaded noise coming on.

My dad is a huge fan, and would try to make me watch it...so I'd leave the room. Didn't see more than a few minutes of the show. Just hearing the first few notes of that song still drives me crazy.

I think he's trying to imply that everyone knows JT is gay, so he should just come out. Which would make sense if JT wasn't banging smokin hot chicks all the time.

Fixed for emphasis.

[Schmidty]

Who the hell is Schmidty?

I have no idea, but I'm sure as hell not gonna Google his ass. :)

[Schmidty]

I have no idea, but I'm sure as hell not gonna Google his ass. :)

That's would be hot.

[Ksyrup]

OK, let me rephrase - who the hell are Schmidty?

[AENeuman]

I'm a huge fan . He was the clock in beauty and the beast. But where i think he is best is on American Experience. He did Chicago and New York, Mormons and Victory in the Pacific (which I'm showing today to my history class) all are awesome.

maybe we should do a draft of best narrators!

[Dr. Sak]

That's would be hot.

We need Swaggs to break out that picture of you!

[Schmidty]

We need Swaggs to break out that picture of you!

I'm getting a little teary.

[Autumn]

I think he's trying to imply that everyone knows JT is gay, so he should just come out. Which would make sense if JT wasn't banging chicks all the time.

Seriously, this dude was banging Jessica Biel. If I have to be gay to do that, I'm ready.

[Autumn]

If I see it on, I turn the channel.

Based on my childhood experiences, I associate MASH being on TV with no cartoons, super hero shows or sitcoms that I enjoyed at that age being on. I remember always being a little despressed when I heard that opening music and saw the footage of that helicopter.

+1

I basically remember this show not because I watched it, I didn't, but because it signaled the end of kid-friendly TV programming. They might as well have put an Off The Air bulletin up as far as I was concerned.

[Ksyrup]

Seriously, this dude was banging Jessica Biel. If I have to be gay to do that, I'm ready.

Schmidty - can you tell me who Jessica Biel is? :p

[Schmidty]

Schmidty - can you tell me who Jessica Biel is? :p

I think she was the chick in "Flashdance".

[Ksyrup]

Never saw it.

[Schmidty]

Never saw it.

Me either, but I think it had something to do with a song called "Maniac" and leg-warmers.

[Ksyrup]

That's about all I remember about it. Was she the chick in the leg warmers?

[Schmidty]

That's about all I remember about it. Was she the chick in the leg warmers?

I think so, but I'm too lazy to look it up.

[Autumn]

You guys are wondering how long it will take before I break in, aren't you? Damnit.

[Passacaglia]

Four and a half months is my guess.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Please consider the thread title edited to read
In other news, Lance Bass (and possibly Justin Timberlake) ...

Every time I try to edit the title the editing window opens for a split second & then jumps into the thread.

It was a quick attempt at mixing the traditional Lance Bass "gee what a shock" riff with the who's next that won't surprise anyone & JT was the first boyband name I could think of. Should have just (pardon the pun) played it straight & gone with Bass only. I know less about those guys than today's youth knows about MASH.

[Ksyrup]

She's #45,826 on my list. I'll let you know when I get there.

[Logan]

Why Timberlake is the man...he scored an 8.0 on the Sports Guy's Vengeance Scale (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/040720&num=0):

8.0 -- Justin Timberlake's "Cry Me A River" video.

(Note: The most underrated example of vengeance on this list. After Britney cheated on him, not only did he dump her, he put out a best-selling album fueled by a song about their breakup in which he basically destroys her with the lyrics. Just an unbelievable piece of work. It's devastating. I can't even imagine what she did when she first heard it. And if that wasn't enough, he made a well-received video about the song, starring a Britney look-alike. And if THAT wasn't enough, he immediately started going out with Cameron Diaz. By the time he was done, Britney's career was in the tank -- she was chain-smoking and hanging out with backup dancers and white trash guys from her hometown. Now that, my friends, is vengeance. Bravo, Justin. Bravo.)

[Autumn]

You take your pick:

<i>Jennifer Beals</i>

<img src="http://images.askmen.com/galleries/actress/jennifer-beals/pictures/jennifer-beals-picture-4.jpg">

or

<i>Jessica Biel<i>

<img src="http://stardietsecrets.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/jessica-biel.jpg">

Or we could get back on topic for:

<img src="http://j.bdbphotos.com/pictures/W/9L/W9E4B9_large.jpg">

[Khorium]

Considering that somewhere in the world there has been a rerun of MASH airing at any given moment continuously for the past 15 years or so, I'm hard pressed to believe that there are many humans left on the planet that haven't seen every episode at least twice. Coma and alien abduction are pretty much the only exceptions.

Or, it could be some of us find the show terribly hard to watch and turn the channel whenever it's on.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Or, it could be some of us find the show terribly hard to watch and turn the channel whenever it's on.

{shrug} Guess I just literally never met an adult who hadn't seen pretty much every episode multiple times & knew at least half of them almost by heart.

[Honolulu_Blue]

{shrug} Guess I just literally never met an adult who hadn't seen pretty much every episode multiple times & knew at least half of them almost by heart.

I must say that I am not sure if I've literally ever met an adult who had seen pretty much every episode multiple times & knew at least half of them almost by heart. Not that I've asked or the topic has ever come up.

[Schmidty]

I must say that I am not sure if I've literally ever met an adult who had seen pretty much every episode multiple times & knew at least half of them almost by heart.

+1

Now can we get back to the Biel vs. Beals debate please?

[lordscarlet]

I must say that I am not sure if I've literally ever met an adult who had seen pretty much every episode multiple times & knew at least half of them almost by heart. Not that I've asked or the topic has ever come up.

+1

[Fidatelo]

{shrug} Guess I just literally never met an adult who hadn't seen pretty much every episode multiple times & knew at least half of them almost by heart.

It's posts like this that remind me how you are able to get by on a day to day basis without killing someone/being killed due to your hardline stance on so many topics.

[JonInMiddleGA]

It's posts like this that remind me how you are able to get by on a day to day basis without killing someone/being killed due to your hardline stance on so many topics.

Leaving the house as little as possible helps a lot too.

[dawgfan]

I'm a huge fan . He was the clock in beauty and the beast. But where i think he is best is on American Experience. He did Chicago and New York, Mormons and Victory in the Pacific (which I'm showing today to my history class) all are awesome.

maybe we should do a draft of best narrators!
Am I the only one (that actually knows who he is) that is always thrown off when I hear him speak in his normal voice? I'm so trained to hear him with his northeastern accent as Major Winchester in M*A*S*H that's always jarring to hear him speak without that accent.

[fantom1979]

When did the damned show run? I was born in 1971. I don't even remember it being on when I was "TV aware." I definitely remember it in reruns, but WTF did I care about that type of show as a kid? I don't know, I just never watched it and it never interested me.

Now, Sanford and Son, I watched that shit all day and night.

Sanford in Son went off the air in 1977, MASH went off the air in 1983

[Fidatelo]

Leaving the house as little as possible helps a lot too.

The internet must just give you aneurysms. I have an image of you in my head and it now looks like the "I crush your head" guy from Kids in the Hall, only you crush forum posts. "I crush your post! Crush it! Hahaha!" :D

[Fidatelo]

Dola

http://msp25.photobucket.com/albums/c83/annamaria1231/CrushYourHead.jpg

[JonInMiddleGA]

The internet must just give you aneurysms. I have an image of you in my head and it now looks like the "I crush your head" guy from Kids in the Hall, only you crush forum posts. "I crush your post! Crush it! Hahaha!" :D

Nah, just extremely liberal (pun intended) use of ignore features and then only selective clicking through those when needed for context in a thread or someone truly needs to be corrected, etc.

[Fidatelo]

Nah, just extremely liberal (pun intended) use of ignore features and then only selective clicking through those when needed for context in a thread or someone truly needs to be corrected, etc.

As reasonable as this sounds, in my mind you're still always going to look like that picture above.

[Ksyrup]

Sanford in Son went off the air in 1977, MASH went off the air in 1983

Yeah, but it was a great show to watch on reruns over and over again. I never saw either show during its original run, that I can recall.

[DanGarion]

What does Justin Timberlake have to do with any of this?

[Khorium]

What does Justin Timberlake have to do with any of this?

http://poponthepop.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/the-love-guru_justin-timberlake.jpg

[mh2365]

in other news JT is hosting SNL this weekend which confuses me since I thought he was a cast member

[BrianD]

{shrug} Guess I just literally never met an adult who hadn't seen pretty much every episode multiple times & knew at least half of them almost by heart.

I would have thought the same thing. We must be getting older than I've realized.

[Honolulu_Blue]

I would have thought the same thing. We must be getting older than I've realized.

I don't think that's it. You're only a couple of months older than I am. Must just travel in different circles is all.

[BrianD]

I don't think that's it. You're only a couple of months older than I am. Must just travel in different circles is all.

That is very possible. I watched a lot of MASH growing up and can still give most of an episode's highlights and punchlines after watching the first minute or two of a show.

[Pumpy Tudors]

I've seen very little of MASH in my lifetime, but I remember seeing commercials for syndicated airings. The voiceover would start with something a little somber from the upcoming episode, but then it would transition into something hilarious to finish it off. For instance:

"On the next episode of MASH, Colonel Potter meets an injured soldier who reminds him of a grisly scene he witnessed in his younger days... and Klinger learns to juggle! All on the next MASH!"

So I never really watched MASH.