Spiders

[MikeVic]

Ok, so there's this spider in my backyard that has an abdomen a bit bigger than my thumb nail (I'm scared of spiders, so this alone freaks the hell out of me... biggest spider I've seen in anyone's backyard here ever)... however, I didn't get a good look at it yesterday.

This evening, I saw it again on its web... and although I won't get close because I'm scared as hell of it, it seems to be like an orangish colour with a dark line underneath. It didn't look like an hourglass shape to me, but there's no way I'm getting close to this thing again to take a picture or anything, other than to kill the fucker.

Since I'm a bit scared it could be a black widow or something (I don't even know if that's possible here, but I think it is), what's the safest way to kill this thing? Buy the most powerful spider spray and unleash?

[Sweed]

I have no idea what kind it is but I would suggest killing the fucker before it lays eggs;)

[RendeR]

RAID


stand about 3 feet away and spray away. (keep your nose covered so you don't inhale the stuff)

[Lathum]

eat it

[DaddyTorgo]

i was just looking but i'm not sure from the description what kind it could be

[Sweed]

RAID


(keep your nose covered so you don't inhale the stuff)


Or you could inhale the stuff, give yourself a good buzz, and then eat it:D

[CU Tiger]

black widow's are tiny....we have them all in our barn.

[DaddyTorgo]

where in canadia are you mikevic?

[MikeVic]

Manitoba.

I just unleashed half a can of RAID on the thing while holding a flashlight. Hopefully didn't inhale too many fumes. I hope it's dead.

[RainMaker]

Sounds like an orb weaver if it was on a web. They are harmless, won't try and get in your house, and will probably eat a shitload of musquitos, flies, and fleas. Just leave it alone. You should also just watch them during the day. It's pretty awesome to see them building their webs and catching their prey.

[DaddyTorgo]

Manitoba.

I just unleashed half a can of RAID on the thing while holding a flashlight. Hopefully didn't inhale too many fumes. I hope it's dead.

you didn't stick around to see and take a pic for us?

[DaddyTorgo]

Spider identification (http://pestcontrolcanada.com/Questions/spider_identification.htm)

[MikeVic]

you didn't stick around to see and take a pic for us?

I'll take a picture tomorrow morning if the body's there. It's too dark right now.

[MikeVic]

Sounds like an orb weaver if it was on a web. They are harmless, won't try and get in your house, and will probably eat a shitload of musquitos, flies, and fleas. Just leave it alone. You should also just watch them during the day. It's pretty awesome to see them building their webs and catching their prey.

Sorry, it was freaking me out. If I post a picture and someone identifies it as an orb-weaver, I'll know for future reference and not kill it if one comes back. The web it made was in a bad spot that will always get sprayed with water too, and I delayed watering my backyard in order to see the thing once more. I remember it being interesting looking, not scary like I saw today. I've always been afraid of spiders.

I did see it eating a wasp or something yesterday morning when I first saw it, but since it freaked me out more than anything I didn't take video or anything, and then when I went back outside it was gone.

[RainMaker]

She look like this? This was one behind my place last year.

http://trosewire.com/spider2.jpg

[DaddyTorgo]

i'm totally cool with spiders outside. it's when they're inside that i get all ninja-assassin on them - especially if they're in my bedroom or bathroom.

[Schmidty]

I love threads like this. The only things I'm not scared of are spiders and bugs, so the wussies in these threads make me happy. :)

[MikeVic]

I didn't get too good a luck tonight since it's dark, so hopefully the body is there tomorrow and I can take a close-up picture. The web for sure looks familiar, but at least from my distance the line on the underside didn't look like it connected to the butt.

Even looking at the picture gives me the creeps though, so the spider probably just picked the wrong backyard to be in. :(

[MikeVic]

Thanks for the quick responses guys though.

[MikeVic]

I love threads like this. The only things I'm not scared of are spiders and bugs, so the wussies in these threads make me happy. :)

:mad:

[Fidatelo]

It was probably just a daddy longlegs. We don't really have much in the way of spiders up here that I've ever seen.

[Scoobz0202]

I think I have had a moth invasion in my bedroom. I have killed probably 11 in the past two nights.


I have now learned just how big of a pussy I am about bugs. I am afraid of moths. And have spent the past two hours searching to see where the fuck they are coming from..


I pulled the cover off my window air conditioner and found 2 inside there.


FUCK THIS

[MikeVic]

It was probably just a daddy longlegs. We don't really have much in the way of spiders up here that I've ever seen.

Lol! I knew it wasn't a daddy long legs!! I wanted a pic of it because no one believes me when I try to describe the spider, which freaked me out more.

[ColtCrazy]

Guess you know it's definitely not a black widow. We have those around here, although the brown recluse is far worse (and 3 times the size).

Up north, I hear you get something called a Wold Spider. I've seen pictures of those, those things would freak me out.

I hate spiders, and I'm still scared of them. However, my son and wife are so terrified, I have to kill them around here. I HATE that job.

My fear of spiders came when I was about 8. I ran into a spider web that had about a 3 inch long yellow and black spotted spider that ended up on my chest. I freaked out and hit in my bedroom the rest of the day.

[MikeVic]

When I was a kid, even the feel of spiderwebs freaked me out. That fake Halloween stuff was torture for me. I'm not as bad anymore, but they still freak me out.

[DaddyTorgo]

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World's Largest Spider eating dinner (http://www.break.com/usercontent/2008/4/world-s-largest-spider-eating-dinner-484491.html) - Watch more Funny Videos (http://www.break.com)




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[MikeVic]

OMG why DT why

[Scoobz0202]

mother fucker

[DaddyTorgo]

hahahahahaa


because goliath bird eating spiders (okay so they're actually tarantulas) are AWESOME!!!!

don't worry though - if you don't go to south american jungles you'll never run into one

[Philliesfan980]

Ugh, just in time for bed!

[RainMaker]

I didn't get too good a luck tonight since it's dark, so hopefully the body is there tomorrow and I can take a close-up picture. The web for sure looks familiar, but at least from my distance the line on the underside didn't look like it connected to the butt.

Even looking at the picture gives me the creeps though, so the spider probably just picked the wrong backyard to be in. :(
Orb Weavers are all different colors. It's the web that really defines them. They are also one of the few "large" spiders that would be in your area. If it was a Wolf Spider, the web wouldn't look like that.

Scary spider story. My brother was in the Galapagos with his girlfriend who is from there. They hike up a hill during the day and reach the top right around dusk. Turn around and the entire path is covered in spider webs being built for the night. Decent sized tropical ones. He said he took a stick and just started hacking through the mess on his way down. Said it was directly out of a horror film. At one point he thought it might be best to just sprint down as fast as he could with his eyes closed and then try and get them all off. Said it took over an hour to get down and couldn't get his body to stop shaking for 30 minutes.

[k0ruptr]

WTF fuck those spiders. Sweet Nightmares for me tonite.

[illinifan999]

If you can get your hands on a nuclear missile, I would suggest that.

[M GO BLUE!!!]

Manitoba.

I just unleashed half a can of RAID on the thing while holding a flashlight. Hopefully didn't inhale too many fumes. I hope it's dead.

Ain't this pretty much what got Michael Vick in trouble in the first place? :D

[tarcone]

For about 2 weeks, we had a spider building a web at night outside the sliding glass door off my kitchen. The bugs are attracted to the light so it was the motherload for this spider. Routinely, I would walk out the back sliding glass door in the morning and get a face full of web. It took about 5 times of doing this before I started clearing it out with the piece of wood that helps lock the door.

[Groundhog]

Pfft. You guys should make your way over to Australia. We've got all kinds of nasty spiders and bugs to keep you up at night. ;)

[samifan24]

I hate spiders. Always have.

[Rizon]

I get this one in my house. I dunno what it is, but it doesn't build webs, kinda sneaks around, it jumps. I get bit at night by them so they're not poisonous. The last one was a couple weeks ago, I'd say about 2 inches with it's legs.

[Lorena]

PETA does not approve of this thread.

[gkb]

Rizon, I would move if I were you. I freakin' hate spiders.

[Marc Vaughan]

I get this one in my house. I dunno what it is, but it doesn't build webs, kinda sneaks around, it jumps. I get bit at night by them so they're not poisonous. The last one was a couple weeks ago, I'd say about 2 inches with it's legs.

That looks like some sort of alien scout to me - expect his fleet to arrive shortly ...

[DaddyTorgo]

I get this one in my house. I dunno what it is, but it doesn't build webs, kinda sneaks around, it jumps. I get bit at night by them so they're not poisonous. The last one was a couple weeks ago, I'd say about 2 inches with it's legs.

looks like a grass spider?

Spider Identification Chart - Venomous or Dangerous? (http://www.termite.com/spider-identification.html)

if it was a hobo spider and biting you you'd be toast by now...lol

[CraigSca]

I love the caption for the mouse-eating spider video: "World's Largest Spider eating dinner (http://www.break.com/usercontent/2008/4/world-s-largest-spider-eating-dinner-484491.html) - Watch more Funny Videos (http://www.break.com/)"

[boberot]

I get this one in my house. I dunno what it is, but it doesn't build webs, kinda sneaks around, it jumps. I get bit at night by them so they're not poisonous. The last one was a couple weeks ago, I'd say about 2 inches with it's legs.

I'm no expert, but I think you have yourself some Fishing Spiders.

Dolomedes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolomedes)

[boberot]

Oops. I think DT is right, now that I look . . . .

[chesapeake]

So I'm sitting here at my desk reading a thread about spiders and I see some movement out of the corner of my eye. There, running for daylight, is Rizon's little buddy.

That is pretty random.

Spiders are OK in my book -- I certainly like them much better than the mosquitos and other assorted bugs they consume. However, I do have one rule. Inside is my place, outside is theirs. This little guy broke the rules and had to be punished. He got the business end of my paperclip holder.

[DaddyTorgo]

i'm no expert either, but i'd say grass or hobo. hobo fits the habitat more likely, but if hobos were biting him every night he'd know it i guess.

[RomaGoth]

I love threads like this. The only things I'm not scared of are spiders and bugs, so the wussies in these threads make me happy. :)

So, you ARE afraid of:

little girls
kittens
a coffee cup
paperclips
grass
the moon
the internet
bicycles
farts
math
paper
food

But, you are NOT afraid of spiders and bugs? :confused:

[flere-imsaho]

You should view ghastly spiders as an opportunity:

1. Take picture of said spider, preferably next to something that exaggerates its size.

2. Show picture to wife (only works with arachnophobic wife).

3. Congratulations, you now have spousal permission to buy a flamethrower!

Pfft. You guys should make your way over to Australia. We've got all kinds of nasty spiders and bugs to keep you up at night. ;)

I've spent a grand total of 8 hours in Australia (on a layover from NZ to Hawaii) and I spent the entire time certain a snake, spider, jellyfish or shark was going to kill me. True story. How the hell do you people not live in fear?

[MikeVic]

Well, I found the dead body but it didn't make for a good picture. Hard to see the details since it's all shriveled up. However, I did spot the exact same spider near my AC unit!! I'll leave that one alone, but now I'm worried that maybe it was a guy and girl spider and they already have babies somewhere. :banghead:

[MacroGuru]

Well, I found the dead body but it didn't make for a good picture. Hard to see the details since it's all shriveled up. However, I did spot the exact same spider near my AC unit!! I'll leave that one alone, but now I'm worried that maybe it was a guy and girl spider and they already have babies somewhere. :banghead:

They do...inside your head!

[MikeVic]

They do...inside your head!

:mad:

[DaddyTorgo]

Well, I found the dead body but it didn't make for a good picture. Hard to see the details since it's all shriveled up. However, I did spot the exact same spider near my AC unit!! I'll leave that one alone, but now I'm worried that maybe it was a guy and girl spider and they already have babies somewhere. :banghead:

take a picture! we want to see it!

[bulletsponge]

what a bunch of little girls! oohh wait thats an insult to little girls, my little sis used to kill all sorts of bugs when she was small

[MikeVic]

take a picture! we want to see it!

I'll try next time it's bright and I see it in its actual web. It was hiding in a corner last night.

[MikeVic]

what a bunch of little girls! oohh wait thats an insult to little girls, my little sis used to kill all sorts of bugs when she was small

Oh go soak in some more bullets!

[Lorena]

Well, I found the dead body but it didn't make for a good picture. Hard to see the details since it's all shriveled up. However, I did spot the exact same spider near my AC unit!! I'll leave that one alone, but now I'm worried that maybe it was a guy and girl spider and they already have babies somewhere. :banghead:

Uh oh. Just make sure to sleep with your mouth closed so something doesn't crawl in.

[MikeVic]

Uh oh. Just make sure to sleep with your mouth closed so something doesn't crawl in.

:rant:

[RomaGoth]

Uh oh. Just make sure to sleep with your mouth closed so something doesn't crawl in.

lmao

[MacroGuru]

So I am wuss when it comes to spiders in the home...But this one is sitting outside in a bush, right underneath our light out back...

[DaddyTorgo]

is that giant yellow+black thing the sac on it's back? if so i'd say orb-weaver for sure (based on what little i know)

[MikeVic]

That's bright.

[MacroGuru]

is that giant yellow+black thing the sac on it's back? if so i'd say orb-weaver for sure (based on what little i know)

It is an Orb Weaver and thats her abdomen...she hasn't dropped an egg sack yet....her web is gigantic...the white stuff is part of her web in the center she is reinforcing.

[DaddyTorgo]

It is an Orb Weaver and thats her abdomen...she hasn't dropped an egg sack yet....her web is gigantic...the white stuff is part of her web in the center she is reinforcing.

abdomen is what i meant by sac...cool

[DaddyTorgo]

beautiful - you must have a significant decrease in mosquitos!

[RainMaker]

When I had one in my yard I would sit and watch him work. Cool to see a flea fly into the web and him run up and eat him real quick, then go back to the middle. If you get a chance, watch them build the web up after a rain. It's amazing.

[EagleFan]

Used to have one that would make a web to the side of our front door, relatively near our outside light. It really cut down the bugs so I didn't mind it. Then one day I open the door and luckily I wasn't hurrying outside as it made the web right across the walkway.

That is when I realized its devious plan. It was lulling me into a comfort zone and waiting for a chance to make an attempt on me. I was Stallin to its Hitler. Our alliance was over and I had to destroy it.

[gkb]

Used to have one that would make a web to the side of our front door, relatively near our outside light. It really cut down the bugs so I didn't mind it. Then one day I open the door and luckily I wasn't hurrying outside as it made the web right across the walkway.

That is when I realized its devious plan. It was lulling me into a comfort zone and waiting for a chance to make an attempt on me. I was Stallin to its Hitler. Our alliance was over and I had to destroy it.

I've never admired you more than I do right now.

[Wolfpack]

Last night as I was closing up my garage a little bit after sunset, I was standing outside looking up at the sky and noticed a couple of bats flying around above me. Not unusual as I think they've got a spot somewhere in the trees behind my house that they live. It was then that I noticed a somewhat stationary dot probably about 25 feet up in between the dark shadows of a pair of trees next to the house. Sure enough, it was a spider, apparently setting up shop as it seemed to be moving back and forth rather nimbly. Couldn't tell what it was in the darkness, but it was a pretty big one considering I could see it rather easily from ground level and basically was trying to stitch a web between the upper branches of two trees several feet apart. I did manage to catch a little better view from my daughter's bedroom window on the second floor, which was still a little bit below the spider's position, but it had some long legs and a thick abdomen.

Just thought I'd share. :D

[MikeVic]

Last night as I was closing up my garage a little bit after sunset, I was standing outside looking up at the sky and noticed a couple of bats flying around above me. Not unusual as I think they've got a spot somewhere in the trees behind my house that they live. It was then that I noticed a somewhat stationary dot probably about 25 feet up in between the dark shadows of a pair of trees next to the house. Sure enough, it was a spider, apparently setting up shop as it seemed to be moving back and forth rather nimbly. Couldn't tell what it was in the darkness, but it was a pretty big one considering I could see it rather easily from ground level and basically was trying to stitch a web between the upper branches of two trees several feet apart. I did manage to catch a little better view from my daughter's bedroom window on the second floor, which was still a little bit below the spider's position, but it had some long legs and a thick abdomen.

Just thought I'd share. :D

Better make sure that your daughter doesn't wander into the web!

[claphamsa]

i need spiders here.... stupid mosquitoes!

[Lorena]

goddamit, why'd i come in here?

[SackAttack]

goddamit, why'd i come in here?

You're either an attention whore or a glutton for punishment? :D

[RainMaker]

Walking around downstairs in the dark and here a squish like I stepped in a small wetspot on the floor. Turn on the lights and it's a big ole spider crushed. Good thing I was wearing sandals around the house. That spider was pretty damn big.

[Malificent]

The yellow and black from a few weeks ago is the Black-and-Yellow Argiope - very common in North America and also known as the writing spider because of the pattern in the middle that stabilizes the web. They've been known to capture and eat monarch butterflies, dragonflies, and cicadas, but mostly eat smaller flying insects. A couple of pictures of the one in my garden.

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/mali42/3890588789/" title="Day 248/365:Black-and-Yellow Argiope by Mali42, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3438/3890588789_9236a78afe.jpg" width="500" height="363" alt="Day 248/365:Black-and-Yellow Argiope" /></a>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/mali42/3890596875/" title="Black-and-Yellow Argiope - Closeup by Mali42, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2481/3890596875_b57e3daee1.jpg" width="356" height="500" alt="Black-and-Yellow Argiope - Closeup" /></a>

A female wolf spider settled in right next to my front door, complete with eggsac. That was mildly startling. No web for her, since Wolf Spiders are hunters rather than web weavers. A picture of her, closeup, with the eggsac.

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/mali42/3910759054/" title="Wolf Spider and her eggsac by Mali42, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2613/3910759054_7578dae010_b.jpg" width="592" height="1024" alt="Wolf Spider and her eggsac" /></a>

[Qwikshot]

Prepare to be freaked out...(yes, it's real)

<a href="http://s70.photobucket.com/albums/i107/qwikshot1975/?action=view&current=bird_eating_spider02.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i107/qwikshot1975/bird_eating_spider02.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

[Drake]

I am not even going to ask how close you had to get to those spiders to get those pictures, Mali. Great shots, though.

[Drake]

Prepare to be freaked out...(yes, it's real)

<a href="http://s70.photobucket.com/albums/i107/qwikshot1975/?action=view&current=bird_eating_spider02.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i107/qwikshot1975/bird_eating_spider02.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

A spider EATING A BIRD! Are you fucking kidding me?! Now I've got the heebie-jeebies and I can't get rid of them.

Damn you, Qwikshot. Damn you.

[Qwikshot]

Just in case that wasn't enough

<a href="http://s70.photobucket.com/albums/i107/qwikshot1975/?action=view&current=bird_eating_spider01.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i107/qwikshot1975/bird_eating_spider01.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

I didn't take these shots, this is a spider that lives in Australia.

[Lorena]

You're either an attention whore or a glutton for punishment? :D

A glutton for punishment, here I am again!

Malificent those pictures are amazing.

[Schmidty]

One more time -SPIDERS ARE AWESOME!!!!

[MikeVic]

Fuck this thread! I'm never coming back in here again!!

[flere-imsaho]

Fuck this thread! I'm never coming back in here again!!

:withstupid: :eek:

[LoneStarGirl]

This thread is awesome! Y'all are wimps! Since I moved to my house, which is on a lake, two years ago I kill a spider a day. I have killed numerous wolf spiders, fortunately all of them outside. Its awesome to see the babies scatter and die.

[LoneStarGirl]

Oh and Australia has the world's deadliest snakes and biggest spiders, its a country I NEVER want to visit.

[bulletsponge]

This thread is awesome! Y'all are wimps! Since I moved to my house, which is on a lake, two years ago I kill a spider a day. I have killed numerous wolf spiders, fortunately all of them outside. Its awesome to see the babies scatter and die.

what kind of an evil person kills a mother right in front of her babies?

[Lorena]

Oh and Australia has the world's deadliest snakes and biggest spiders, its a country I NEVER want to visit.

Yes, they even have their own healthbars!!

http://failness.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/australia-huge-spiders-health-bar.jpg

[JetsIn06]

I am such a whimp.

So, I'm getting ready to take my dog out for a walk. I go to the front door, and there is a tiny little spider who has built a nest right across the doorway. I freak the fuck out and slam the door. I go to the back door. I do my trademark "swipe my hand in front of me so I don't stick my face into one" move and make it out safely.

I come back, and there is a fucking spider walking across my back door. I back a few steps and look like a little bitch as this tiny spider crawls away. I open the door and run in.

[bulletsponge]

^^ LOL^^

i bet your dog is embarassed to be seen with you

[Wolfpack]

Last weekend my wife was getting ready to go to meet some friends at a restaurant. As she went through the door into the garage, I hear her starting to freak out. I come to her and she's got a rather terrified look and tells me there's a black widow outside the door in the garage. I go out and sure enough, there she is, pretty much at eye level off to one side of the door, red hourglass mark and everything. First time I'd ever seen one of those around the house. I've been told by my wife and daughter it wasn't the first one they've found, either....

[Glengoyne]

I'm now pretty well convinced that Big Ass bird eating spider is right on the underside of my desktop.

I'm petrified. I may not be able to return to this thread. I definitely can't scroll up. I'm really only marginally freaked by spiders...but DAMN!

[MikeVic]

Ok, so if anyone remembers this thread from last year... here's an update.

I went outside to remove the cover off my AC and noticed a tiny spider hanging around. I took the cover off and it ruined the spider's web a bit. I looked closer, and it looks like a tiny version of those orb weavers from last year.

I ended up finding two orb weavers (one that I freaked out on and killed, the other I left alone). Do you think this could be a baby of the orb weavers? Or would the winter cold have killed any eggs or whatever...

[Drake]

The fact that you just bumped this thread has made me your mortal enemy for life.

[Swaggs]

Ok, so if anyone remembers this thread from last year... here's an update.

I went outside to remove the cover off my AC and noticed a tiny spider hanging around. I took the cover off and it ruined the spider's web a bit. I looked closer, and it looks like a tiny version of those orb weavers from last year.

I ended up finding two orb weavers (one that I freaked out on and killed, the other I left alone). Do you think this could be a baby of the orb weavers? Or would the winter cold have killed any eggs or whatever...

It says on wikipedia that orb weavers pass memories on to their offspring. Hopefully, the survivor from last year didn't see you kill its mate.

[MikeVic]

It says on wikipedia that orb weavers pass memories on to their offspring. Hopefully, the survivor from last year didn't see you kill its mate.

Oh oh! It'll avenge its father's death!!

[RainMaker]

It says on wikipedia that orb weavers pass memories on to their offspring. Hopefully, the survivor from last year didn't see you kill its mate.
:lol:

[Tasan]

I get this one in my house. I dunno what it is, but it doesn't build webs, kinda sneaks around, it jumps. I get bit at night by them so they're not poisonous. The last one was a couple weeks ago, I'd say about 2 inches with it's legs.

Wolf spiders. They are harmless and kinda fun. They do jump, but as you say their bite is harmless. If you have them in your house, a freaky thing to do is take a flashlight into your back yard at night and hold it at eye level. All the little twinkles you see reflecting back in the grass are usually these guys. My brother-in-law showed me this once. We went and hunted down the spots and yep, it was the spiders. The bigger the reflection, the bigger the wolf spider.

Wiki: Wolf spider - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolf_spider)

[Tasan]

Well damn. Didn't look at the date.

[kiwiLB57]

Oh and Australia has the world's deadliest snakes and biggest spiders, its a country I NEVER want to visit.

It's also full of Australians. Reason Numero Uno never to visit.

This thread is terrifying. Seriously delete this sh.t. My girlfriend is in charge of killing all insect life on our property, I just can't deal with spiders at all.

kiwiLB57

[DaddyTorgo]

I had a daddy longlegs on my window this morning as i was pulling out intro traffic...couldn't tell if it was outside or inside. i thought of the OP in this thread and freaked out even more.

i think it was outside though.