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Chubby
08-23-2009, 08:00 PM
12 team league
3 (4) team divisions
my division members drafted 1, 10, 11, 12
I drafted 11th
#1 took AP 1st, #10 took WRs with his 1st 3 picks, #12 didn't show and his team sucks ass
QB: Ben Rothliesberger, Kurt Warner
RB: Thomas Jones, Joseph Addai, Leon Washington, Earnest Graham, Tashard Choice
WR: Larry Fitzgerald, Calvin Johnson, Dwayne Bowe, Domenik Hixon, Ted Ginn Jr, Steve Breaston
TE: Bo Scaife
K: Nate Kaeding
Def: Steelers
I took Fitz 1.11 and CJ 2.2 after Andre Johnson went 10th (9 Rbs before that). Got Warner in the 7th
Thoughts?
Maple Leafs
08-23-2009, 08:21 PM
RB is obviously a question mark. Are there any Steeler fans in the pool who'd give up a solid back for Big Ben?
How many WRs do you start?
Comey
08-23-2009, 08:38 PM
Interesting that you loaded up on WR. The RB are...tough. Teaming up Jones and Washington is good, but Shonn Greene may be getting a lot of those carries. Earnest Graham is a good choice.
Here's my team. Our draft was a little off in terms of how many rounds, so everyone is adding the depth pieces.
QB: Donovan McNabb
RB: Chris Johnson, Marion Barber, Ray Rice, LeSean McCoy
WR: Calvin Johnson, Donald Driver, Eddie Royal, Jerricho Cotchery
TE: Jason Witten
K: Neil Rackers
D: New England
rowech
08-23-2009, 08:57 PM
Just had my draft...it'll follow after my commments on others...
Chubby...gotta be honest...not a fan of your team and it's mostly because of your QBs. I'd be petrified having those two.
Comey...like your team overall. McNabb's health will be a big factor.
Here's mine...14 teams...some crazy rules (in addition to traditional ones) to be aware of...
1. QB TDs = 6 points
2. Every 5 completions = 1 point
3. Every 5 rushes = 1 point
4. Every reception = 1 point
QB -- Brees, Hill
RB -- L. Johnson, Benson, F. Jones
WR -- Jennings, Colston, Gates, Moore
K -- Folk, Tynes
No defenses. Start 1 QB, 1 RB, 3 WR, 1 RB/WR
It's a tough league to gauge because of how deep it is and the strange rules along with strange combination of starters. That said, it's probably my least favorite team ever...which probably means I'll win
Racer
08-23-2009, 09:55 PM
12 team league
3 (4) team divisions
my division members drafted 1, 10, 11, 12
I drafted 11th
#1 took AP 1st, #10 took WRs with his 1st 3 picks, #12 didn't show and his team sucks ass
QB: Ben Rothliesberger, Kurt Warner
RB: Thomas Jones, Joseph Addai, Leon Washington, Earnest Graham, Tashard Choice
WR: Larry Fitzgerald, Calvin Johnson, Dwayne Bowe, Domenik Hixon, Ted Ginn Jr, Steve Breaston
TE: Bo Scaife
K: Nate Kaeding
Def: Steelers
I took Fitz 1.11 and CJ 2.2 after Andre Johnson went 10th (9 Rbs before that). Got Warner in the 7th
Thoughts?
You're loaded at WR (both your top 3 & your bench). Hixon (along with Josh Morgan) are the two WRs that I'm targeting as sleepers in my draft. I like that you paired Breaston with Fitzgerald as well. Assuming your top 3 WRs all do what you're supposed to do, one of your other will probably break out and hopefully you can trade one of them (or Bowe) for an upgrade at RB or TE (if Scaife doesn't pan out).
You're team doesn't look good enough to be the front runner, but I'd say you have a good shot of being in the 4-6 range.
SnDvls
08-23-2009, 10:10 PM
Chubby - I have the same concerns at QB, but I'll be in the same boat as you too.
Here's my team. I picked #2 and took AP (#1 took Rivers in a shocker)
start QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, TE, K & Def
QB - Roethlisberger & Pennington
RB - Peterson, Addai, Sproles & Leon Washington
WR - Anquan Boldin, Lee Evans, Nate Washington, & Rober Meachem
TE - Greg Olson & Vernon Davis
K - Vinatieri
Def - Philly
I'd appriciate any thoughts
Axxon
08-24-2009, 01:19 AM
I've never played FF before so it'd be hard for me to comment but today I just had my first draft and would appreciate any feedback anyone would like to give.
16 team league
QB - Schaub, Favre
RB - Forte, K Smith, J Lewis
WR - Andre Johnson, Cotchery,Mason, Mike Clayton, Mark Bradley
TE - Winslow, Scaife
DEF - Buccaneers
K - Gostkowski, Jeff Reed
starters are qb, rb, rb, wr, wr, wr, d, k
Chubby
08-24-2009, 02:57 AM
I got screwed on the RB and WB runs so had to go with WRs to get value to ttrde. Idealy I will trade Fitzgerald for a rop RB. 8 teams make the playoffs (top 2 in each division and 2 wild cards) so I think I have a good shot at that since team #10 is in the sae boat as me and team #12 sucks
albionmoonlight
08-24-2009, 08:26 AM
I got screwed on the RB and WB runs so had to go with WRs to get value to ttrde. Idealy I will trade Fitzgerald for a rop RB. 8 teams make the playoffs (top 2 in each division and 2 wild cards) so I think I have a good shot at that since team #10 is in the sae boat as me and team #12 sucks
I am risk adverse, so I'd trade Warner if I were you before he gets injured. The question is when do you do it? Since he lasted until the 7th, no one in your league is in love with him. But if, after week 1, he puts up 400 yards, you might be able to sell high.
And you did the right thing getting value with the WRs. Better to get a stud to trade than draft a RB two rounds to early because you need a guy to fill a slot.
Personally, I think that CJ will do really well this year (rookie QB will quickly learn that Megatron is his best friend). And that Fitz is over-rated. Arizona will come down to earth, and even he can catch only so many passes in double coverage. And if/when Warner goes out, then game over.
So, good value picking, and I agree that you need to trade Fitz.
albionmoonlight
08-24-2009, 08:27 AM
Chubby - I have the same concerns at QB, but I'll be in the same boat as you too.
Here's my team. I picked #2 and took AP (#1 took Rivers in a shocker)
start QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, TE, K & Def
QB - Roethlisberger & Pennington
RB - Peterson, Addai, Sproles & Leon Washington
WR - Anquan Boldin, Lee Evans, Nate Washington, & Rober Meachem
TE - Greg Olson & Vernon Davis
K - Vinatieri
Def - Philly
I'd appriciate any thoughts
Robert Meachem is a great value pick (assuming that you got him late). He's got the size and speed and is in a pass-first offense. And, from what I hear, the light has come on for him this training camp.
I plan to make him my last non-K/non-D pick in my upcoming draft.
albionmoonlight
08-24-2009, 08:29 AM
I've never played FF before so it'd be hard for me to comment but today I just had my first draft and would appreciate any feedback anyone would like to give.
16 team league
QB - Schaub, Favre
RB - Forte, K Smith, J Lewis
WR - Andre Johnson, Cotchery,Mason, Mike Clayton, Mark Bradley
TE - Winslow, Scaife
DEF - Buccaneers
K - Gostkowski, Jeff Reed
starters are qb, rb, rb, wr, wr, wr, d, k
That's a really good team for a 16 team league. I see Forte as the second best overall player in the draft (most people don't agree with me here). Johnson is one of the top two WR. And Crotcherty is a very good WR.
I'd drop one of your kickers and pick up a Free Agent with breakout potential. No need to keep two kickers on the roster.
Finished my draft last night, it's my first time doing fantasy football, so a little feedback is appreciated. It's a 10 team league, with a lineup as such:
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 RB/WR, 1 TE, 1 K, 1 D/ST
Here's my squad:
QB: Brees, Palmer
RB: D. Williams, J. Stewart, Felix Jones, Leon Washington
WR: Antonio Bryant, Roddy White, Braylon Edwards, Donald Driver, Steve Breaston
TE: Tony Gonzalez, John Carlson
K: Mason Crosby
D/ST: Vikings, Dolphins
Chubby
08-24-2009, 11:33 AM
Finished my draft last night, it's my first time doing fantasy football, so a little feedback is appreciated. It's a 10 team league, with a lineup as such:
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 RB/WR, 1 TE, 1 K, 1 D/ST
Here's my squad:
QB: Brees, Palmer
RB: D. Williams, J. Stewart, Felix Jones, Leon Washington
WR: Antonio Bryant, Roddy White, Braylon Edwards, Donald Driver, Steve Breaston
TE: Tony Gonzalez, John Carlson
K: Mason Crosby
D/ST: Vikings, Dolphins
I like, your #2 RB needs improving unless you really want to start Williams AND Stweart. Seems you got Edwards late so you might be able to trade him for a RB
Chubby
08-24-2009, 11:36 AM
I am risk adverse, so I'd trade Warner if I were you before he gets injured. The question is when do you do it? Since he lasted until the 7th, no one in your league is in love with him. But if, after week 1, he puts up 400 yards, you might be able to sell high.
And you did the right thing getting value with the WRs. Better to get a stud to trade than draft a RB two rounds to early because you need a guy to fill a slot.
Personally, I think that CJ will do really well this year (rookie QB will quickly learn that Megatron is his best friend). And that Fitz is over-rated. Arizona will come down to earth, and even he can catch only so many passes in double coverage. And if/when Warner goes out, then game over.
So, good value picking, and I agree that you need to trade Fitz.
Yeah, I just couldn't jusitfy taking Kevin Smith over Fitz or CJ. I lucked out in that my divisionmates were all at the extremes of the draft as well (#1, #10, #11, #12).
I'm wary of Fitz in that I don't want to have to start Warner AND Fitz most weeks.
Chubby
08-24-2009, 11:39 AM
12 team league
3 (4) team divisions
my division members drafted 1, 10, 11, 12
I drafted 11th
#1 took AP 1st, #10 took WRs with his 1st 3 picks, #12 didn't show and his team sucks ass
QB: Ben Rothliesberger, Kurt Warner
RB: Thomas Jones, Joseph Addai, Leon Washington, Earnest Graham, Tashard Choice
WR: Larry Fitzgerald, Calvin Johnson, Dwayne Bowe, Domenik Hixon, Ted Ginn Jr, Steve Breaston
TE: Bo Scaife
K: Nate Kaeding
Def: Steelers
I took Fitz 1.11 and CJ 2.2 after Andre Johnson went 10th (9 Rbs before that). Got Warner in the 7th
Thoughts?
Should probably point out that we start:
1 QB
2 RB
2 WR
1 Flex (RB, WR, or TE)
1 TE
1 K
1 DEF
Yea I definitely need another RB, there just weren't any left that I felt comfortable taking with that high of a pick. Call me a total homer if you will, but I really think Bradshaw is gonna have a nice yr, so I'm gonna try to low-ball an offer for him and see how that plays out. I'm a little worried about Bryant, had a nice yr last yr but I don't see TB having a solid passing game this yr with such a question mark at QB. Also, as I said, this was my first time doing a fantasy FB draft, I'm starting to realize I totally wasted a pick on grabbing another defense, not really sure what I was doing there.
SnDvls
08-24-2009, 12:21 PM
TE - Winslow, Scaife
starters are qb, rb, rb, wr, wr, wr, d, k
is this a typo? no starting TE
SnDvls
08-24-2009, 12:23 PM
Robert Meachem is a great value pick (assuming that you got him late). He's got the size and speed and is in a pass-first offense. And, from what I hear, the light has come on for him this training camp.
I plan to make him my last non-K/non-D pick in my upcoming draft.
ya got him in the 2nd to last round (took my kicker last)
Qwikshot
08-24-2009, 12:48 PM
Non-PPR league (All TDs are 6 points) Keeper League
QB Matt Schaub
WR Andre Johnson
WR Greg Jennings
RB Chris Johnson
RB Derrick Ward
TE Vernon Davis
W/R Ray Rice
BN Darren McFadden
BN Anthony Gonzalez
BN Donald Brown
BN Earnest Graham
BN Davone Bess
BN Percy Harvin
K Josh Brown
DEF Chicago
Arles
08-24-2009, 01:04 PM
All TDs are 6-points, 2-point bonus for 40+ TDs in any form, INTs/FL cost -2 and yardage counts 25/1 for passing and 10/1 for rush/receiving. It was an auction draft ($200 for 16 spots) and we start QB, 2 HB, 3 WR, TE, K and D:
QB: Drew Brees $46
HB: Steven Jackson $45
HB: Ryan Grant $17
WR: Reggie Wayne $35
WR: Vincent Jackson $13
WR: Eddie Royal $8
TE: Dallas Clark $13
K: Nate Kaeding $1
Def: Chargers D $2
Bench
QB: Hasselbeck $1
HB: Reggie Bush $5
HB: Cedric Benson $3
HB Julius Jones $2
WR: Jerricho Cotchery $6
WR: Percy Harvin $1
DEF: Green Bay $1
Axxon
08-24-2009, 01:09 PM
That's a really good team for a 16 team league. I see Forte as the second best overall player in the draft (most people don't agree with me here). Johnson is one of the top two WR. And Crotcherty is a very good WR.
I'd drop one of your kickers and pick up a Free Agent with breakout potential. No need to keep two kickers on the roster.
I got incredibly lucky early in the draft. I snagged Forte with the 7th pick. We're about half novices and half that are in other leagues. There was a sick run on QB"s early.
I mean, I'm a novice but at least I read up and kinda knew what was up.
The kicker was my last pick. Many people were doubling up on defences for the bye week ( that one I'd never thought about doing for that position ). I was planning to take another RB instead but all my choices were gobbled up and we were packing up so I didn't really feel like reaching for one and I figured I could pick up someone later that would more or less be the same quaLity as someone I just guessed over.
Between D and K though I felt it would probably be better to snag a K than a D since I'd imagine they generate more consistent points. I will look to offload Reed though and probably shore up my RB depth.
Thanks for the input.
Axxon
08-24-2009, 01:10 PM
is this a typo? no starting TE
It's a typo. There's a TE slot.
Axxon
08-24-2009, 01:21 PM
Yeah, I just couldn't jusitfy taking Kevin Smith over Fitz or CJ. I lucked out in that my divisionmates were all at the extremes of the draft as well (#1, #10, #11, #12).
I'm wary of Fitz in that I don't want to have to start Warner AND Fitz most weeks.
Why wouldn't you want to start them both? Is it a risk/reward thing? I'm not sure. I have Schaub and Johnson and I kinda thought that was a good thing. Did I make a mistake doing that?
MikeVic
08-24-2009, 01:25 PM
I thought normally you want to pair a QB with the top WR, so when possible I'd do that as well.
spleen1015
08-24-2009, 01:47 PM
An interesting situation my league has put me....
I have the #10 pick in a 10 team league.
Picked so far....
1.1 - Peterson
1.2 - Forte
1.3 - D. Williams
1.4 - Slaton
1.5 - Turner
1.6 - Jones - Drew
1.7 - Chris Johnson
1.8 - S. Jackson
1.9 - Tomlinson
I had planned on taking Fitzgerald and Calvin Johnson with my back to back picks. With Gore and Jacobs still on the board, 5 and 6 RB on my list, I'm not too sure now.
Opinions?
Danny
08-24-2009, 01:49 PM
Why not Fitzgerald and Johnson if you want to go back to back WR? Is this a keeper?
spleen1015
08-24-2009, 02:01 PM
This league will be a keeper going into next year's draft. The problem is, the 1st and 2nd round picks this year are ineligible to be keepers.
Why wouldn't you want to start them both? Is it a risk/reward thing? I'm not sure. I have Schaub and Johnson and I kinda thought that was a good thing. Did I make a mistake doing that?
I think the reasoning is that you're more apt to get inconsistent performances from week to week (i.e. higher top scores but lower bottom scores). If you have Peyton Manning and Reggie Wayne, Manning blows up for 4 TDs and 3 TDs are to Wayne, you're going to be tough to beat that week. But if he has one of those 160 yard 0 TD 3 INT games, Wayne is probably going to have been shut down as well and your odds of losing a head-to-head match-up is greater. If you have Peyton Manning and random-elite-WR-on-another-team, there's less of a chance of both being duds in the same week.
That's with all other things being equal though. It might happen that the best player available is someone who is the other side of one of these tandems and then you have to weigh whether or not that factor is worth taking someone you judge as inferior.
Chubby
08-24-2009, 04:28 PM
Why wouldn't you want to start them both? Is it a risk/reward thing? I'm not sure. I have Schaub and Johnson and I kinda thought that was a good thing. Did I make a mistake doing that?
I personally don't like having the QB/WR combo because it's all or nothing it seems to me. If they connect great you have a ton of points, if not then it really hurts your team's chances that week.
Danny
08-24-2009, 04:36 PM
I think if those are your best picks, you go for it, even if you have other players on that team. If choosing between two equal players then putting an egg in a different basket is fine.
Suburban Rhythm
08-24-2009, 05:18 PM
Non-PPR league (All TDs are 6 points) Keeper League
QB Matt Schaub
WR Andre Johnson
WR Greg Jennings
RB Chris Johnson
RB Derrick Ward
TE Vernon Davis
W/R Ray Rice
BN Darren McFadden
BN Anthony Gonzalez
BN Donald Brown
BN Earnest Graham
BN Davone Bess
BN Percy Harvin
K Josh Brown
DEF Chicago
What QBs are available? Because Schaub will be hurt by week 4, like every other season.
Other than that, good squad. If one of McFadden or Brown has a big year, you are pretty deep at RB while not having a premier guy (Johnson gives way to White on too many TD carries to be a true #1 I think).
All TDs are 6-points, 2-point bonus for 40+ TDs in any form, INTs/FL cost -2 and yardage counts 25/1 for passing and 10/1 for rush/receiving. It was an auction draft ($200 for 16 spots) and we start QB, 2 HB, 3 WR, TE, K and D:
QB: Drew Brees $46
HB: Steven Jackson $45
HB: Ryan Grant $17
WR: Reggie Wayne $35
WR: Vincent Jackson $13
WR: Eddie Royal $8
TE: Dallas Clark $13
K: Nate Kaeding $1
Def: Chargers D $2
Bench
QB: Hasselbeck $1
HB: Reggie Bush $5
HB: Cedric Benson $3
HB Julius Jones $2
WR: Jerricho Cotchery $6
WR: Percy Harvin $1
DEF: Green Bay $1
Other than the injury question mark of Steven Jackson, very nice squad. Bush helps in PPR league, and best QB available.
Sublime 2
08-24-2009, 07:18 PM
12 Team league at work. A lot of guys who are pretty new to this. QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, K, Def...non PPR.
QB Aaron Rodgers
RB Derrick Ward
RB Darren McFadden
WR Andre Johnson
WR Calvin Johnson
WR Dwyane Bowe
TE Kellen Winslow Jr.
K Nick Folk
Def San Francisco 49ers
RB Marshawn Lynch
RB Knowshon Moreno
RB Rashard Mendenhall
WR Laveraneus Coles
TE Brandon Pettigrew
QB Joe Flacco
Really just throwing some RB's against the wall, and hoping 2 of them stick. I picked 9th, and didn't like any of the RBs in 1st-4th rounds. Outside of the top few backs, I felt/hoped I could piece-together a decent running attack.
Racer
08-24-2009, 10:19 PM
14 team league(6 make the playoffs), fractional scoring, 1 point per 20 yards receiving/rushing, 1 point per 50 yards passing, 6 points for ALL touchdowns, -2 points per fumble/interception, and .5 PPR
Starting lineup requirements: 1 QB, 2 RBs, 3 WRs, 1 TE, 1 K, & 1 DEF
You can keep 2 or 3 players in this league as long as you want (my keepers were Forte, Johnson, & Fitzgerald).
QB: Jay Cutler & Matt Cassel
RB: Matt Forte, Chris Wells, Ray Rice, Shonn Greene, Jamaal Charles, & Michael Bush
WR: Larry Fitzgerald, Calvin Johnson, Eddie Royal, Josh Morgan, and Davone Bess
TE: Jason Witten
DEF: COLTS
K: Will drop a RB for a kicker before the season starts
I'm a bit disappointed with my team to be honest. My RBs leave a lot to be desired.
Lots of Bears fans in the league so I didn't think I could get Greg Olsen in the 5th/6th round (drafted from the 13 slot). I prefer the Knowshon Moreno/Greg Olsen combo to the Jason Witten/Beanie Wells combo. Oh well.
stevew
08-24-2009, 10:59 PM
I'm picking 4th in a 10 team league.
Conventional wisdom has me getting Turner/MJD/forte. IMO all those guys have significant question marks. I'm tempted by Slaton or Deangelo or Brees there. No PPR.
spleen1015
08-25-2009, 06:58 AM
I don't like the 4th pick this year. 4-8 or 9 feels bad to me. If Forte is there at 4, you'll be alright.
Qwikshot
08-25-2009, 07:49 AM
What QBs are available? Because Schaub will be hurt by week 4, like every other season.
Other than that, good squad. If one of McFadden or Brown has a big year, you are pretty deep at RB while not having a premier guy (Johnson gives way to White on too many TD carries to be a true #1 I think).
Other than the injury question mark of Steven Jackson, very nice squad. Bush helps in PPR league, and best QB available.
I just dropped Bess for Kyle Orton; I often trade with the owner who has LenWhale, perhaps I'll pull for a trade, his team is somewhat weak.
Ronnie Dobbs2
08-25-2009, 07:57 AM
.6 PPR league. 6 pts all touchdowns, points for individual return yardage
QB, WR, WR, WR, RB, RB, TE, W/R/T, K, DEF
QB: Roethlisberger, Flacco
RB: MJD, Portis, Marshawn Lynch, Sproles, Donald Brown
WR: Roddy White, Hines Ward, DeSean Jackson, Kevin Walter, Nate Washington
TE: Chris Baker
DEF: San Diego
K: Mason Crosby
QBs are terrible, but if one of Sproles/Brown hits then I can trade RB depth for another one.
Chubby
08-25-2009, 10:11 AM
14 team league(6 make the playoffs), fractional scoring, 1 point per 20 yards receiving/rushing, 1 point per 50 yards passing, 6 points for ALL touchdowns, -2 points per fumble/interception, and .5 PPR
Starting lineup requirements: 1 QB, 2 RBs, 3 WRs, 1 TE, 1 K, & 1 DEF
You can keep 2 or 3 players in this league as long as you want (my keepers were Forte, Johnson, & Fitzgerald).
QB: Jay Cutler & Matt Cassel
RB: Matt Forte, Chris Wells, Ray Rice, Shonn Greene, Jamaal Charles, & Michael Bush
WR: Larry Fitzgerald, Calvin Johnson, Eddie Royal, Josh Morgan, and Davone Bess
TE: Jason Witten
DEF: COLTS
K: Will drop a RB for a kicker before the season starts
I'm a bit disappointed with my team to be honest. My RBs leave a lot to be desired.
Lots of Bears fans in the league so I didn't think I could get Greg Olsen in the 5th/6th round (drafted from the 13 slot). I prefer the Knowshon Moreno/Greg Olsen combo to the Jason Witten/Beanie Wells combo. Oh well.
You drafted 13th and got Forte (13th?), Fitzgerald (16th?), AND Johnson (41st?)????? Get me in that league!
stevew
08-25-2009, 10:29 AM
those were his keepers
Chubby
08-25-2009, 10:36 AM
those were his keepers
oh, whew
I'm picking 4th in a 10 team league.
Conventional wisdom has me getting Turner/MJD/forte. IMO all those guys have significant question marks. I'm tempted by Slaton or Deangelo or Brees there. No PPR.
Exact same situation in a 12 team league.
I'm leaning towards taking whoever is left of the four, but Turner and Forte both scare me. Slaton or Steven Jackson are the others I'm considering.
stevew
08-25-2009, 04:25 PM
What's the Texans depth chart look like at RB? I haven't followed them at all. I know Slaton carried me a few weeks last year. He seemed somewhat involved in the pass game as well. Dunno if they have a TD vulture or what. But I know I won't be getting him in the 2nd round, and I think he's going to have a borderline monster season.
MikeVic
08-25-2009, 04:31 PM
Don't they have Chris Brown as a backup or something? In other words, I think Slaton is one of the few RBs that will be getting the yards and TDs without a significant handcuff.
stevew
08-25-2009, 04:36 PM
It might just be one of those "Fantasy football is not my game" things.
Slaton averaged a yard more per carry than Forte, had approx 100 less total yards, one more lost fumble and 2 less td's. But if you were to draft Slaton over Forte, you'd get all the typical "dumbass" stuff. I just don't get it.
Turner reminds me of Jamal Anderson. Dunno why, but he does.
MJD is in the new role as the main guy, he's obviously a TD guy and a catching guy. But his YPC keep dropping every year, as he's more involved in the offense.
Like I said, maybe not my game.
MikeVic
08-25-2009, 04:40 PM
I think Forte has more potential since he's clearly the #1, no one even close to take carries from him. And he has a better offense now (Cutler) to work in.
I think a few people think Turner could be a bust because of the high carries last year (370 I think??)...
MJD could definitely be awesome this year, but he's never NOT had Fred Taylor there, right? So people might shy away because what if MJD needs that handcuff to give him a rest...?
I think you could take any three of those though and no one would call you a dumbass. I think Slaton will be good this year too, and would group him with these three actually. Maybe the average fantasy player doesn't feel like he's that good, but I share the same thoughts as you about Slaton.
Racer
08-25-2009, 05:00 PM
It might just be one of those "Fantasy football is not my game" things.
Slaton averaged a yard more per carry than Forte, had approx 100 less total yards, one more lost fumble and 2 less td's. But if you were to draft Slaton over Forte, you'd get all the typical "dumbass" stuff. I just don't get it.
Turner reminds me of Jamal Anderson. Dunno why, but he does.
MJD is in the new role as the main guy, he's obviously a TD guy and a catching guy. But his YPC keep dropping every year, as he's more involved in the offense.
Like I said, maybe not my game.
I think you got to go for the players you like. In 2006, I had the 3rd overall pick and went with Shaun Alexander over Tiki Barber despite having a bad feeling about Alexander and feeling that Barber was a much safer pick. It's not a reach if the player isn't going to get back to you (and Slaton won't).
Sublime 2
08-26-2009, 01:31 PM
12 Team league at work. A lot of guys who are pretty new to this. QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, K, Def...non PPR.
QB Aaron Rodgers
RB Derrick Ward
RB Darren McFadden
WR Andre Johnson
WR Calvin Johnson
WR Dwyane Bowe
TE Kellen Winslow Jr.
K Nick Folk
Def San Francisco 49ers
RB Marshawn Lynch
RB Knowshon Moreno
RB Rashard Mendenhall
WR Laveraneus Coles
TE Brandon Pettigrew
QB Joe Flacco
Really just throwing some RB's against the wall, and hoping 2 of them stick. I picked 9th, and didn't like any of the RBs in 1st-4th rounds. Outside of the top few backs, I felt/hoped I could piece-together a decent running attack.
UPDATE
So I have two offers on the table:
Trade 1
I giveup: Andre Johnson and Darren McFadden
I receive: Steven Jackson and Deion Branch
I've since countered this with
I giveup: Andre Johnson, McFadden, and Mendenhall
I receive: Steven Jackson and Braylon Edwards
Trade 2
I giveup: Andre Johnson and Marshawn Lynch
I receive: Matt Forte (or Steve Slaton) and Antonio Bryant
Any advice? I would take my counter-offer over Trade 2 just b/c I'm a little worried about Bryant's knee.
SnDvls
08-26-2009, 10:31 PM
UPDATE
So I have two offers on the table:
Trade 1
I giveup: Andre Johnson and Darren McFadden
I receive: Steven Jackson and Deion Branch
I've since countered this with
I giveup: Andre Johnson, McFadden, and Mendenhall
I receive: Steven Jackson and Braylon Edwards
Trade 2
I giveup: Andre Johnson and Marshawn Lynch
I receive: Matt Forte (or Steve Slaton) and Antonio Bryant
Any advice? I would take my counter-offer over Trade 2 just b/c I'm a little worried about Bryant's knee.
IMO you're giving up too much in all 3 trades. I'd stick with what you have.
I think Jackson has lost a step and the OL for the Rams isn't very good. Andre Johnson is a top WR in most leagues.
Arles
08-26-2009, 10:50 PM
I like Jackson this year, provided he stays healthy (always a risk). But, he has a new OL (3 new additions in FA/top pick), they have little in the passing game and he figures to get 20 carries and 5-6 catches a game. Even without TDs, that's probably 1300 yards rushing, 700-800 yards receiving for the season (again, provided he stays healthy).
Still, I would hold out for more. Lynch has terrible value right now and Branch/Edwards/Bryant are serious downgrades over Johnson.
Qwikshot
08-27-2009, 06:27 AM
UPDATE
So I have two offers on the table:
Trade 1
I giveup: Andre Johnson and Darren McFadden
I receive: Steven Jackson and Deion Branch
I've since countered this with
I giveup: Andre Johnson, McFadden, and Mendenhall
I receive: Steven Jackson and Braylon Edwards
Trade 2
I giveup: Andre Johnson and Marshawn Lynch
I receive: Matt Forte (or Steve Slaton) and Antonio Bryant
Any advice? I would take my counter-offer over Trade 2 just b/c I'm a little worried about Bryant's knee.
I wouldn't trade, you have a solid team.
CleBrownsfan
08-27-2009, 06:40 AM
The guys that drafted in a 10 owner league and with a PPR format - could you PM me your draft results? I like looking at results to see where my guys are getting taken...
~thanks
Sublime 2
08-27-2009, 07:18 AM
I wouldn't trade, you have a solid team.
Awesome, thank you guys. I thought that since I still had Calvin Johnson, that would lessen the blow of losing Andre. Then being able to pick up a bona-fide top 10 back for one of them might help my wishy washy RB situation. I think you guys talked me out of it though!
Thanks again for the advice.
Suburban Rhythm
08-27-2009, 08:12 PM
I drafted 7th out of 12
1 pt every 10 yds rush/receive
1 pt ever 25 yards pass
All TDs 6 pts
-2 for INT or Fumble
.5 per reception
Start 1 QB, 1 RB, 1 WR, 1 TE 2 flex (RB-WR-TE) 1 K 1 Def
QB: Hasselbeck (9th round) Cassel (10)
RB: Slaton (1), Larry Johnson (4), Reggie Bush (5), Julius Jone (7), Jerrious Norwood (14)
WR: Wayne (2), Ward (6), Breaston (8), Mark Clayton (13)
TE: Witten (3), Fasano (15)
K Akers (11)
D Chicago (12) TB (16)
Any thoughts on Cedric Benson? Can I get away with him as a 2nd RB? I'm thinking going RB-WR-WR-RB-QB and by my guesstimation Benson would be the worst I could do at the 4th pick.
SnDvls
08-28-2009, 03:55 PM
Any thoughts on Cedric Benson? Can I get away with him as a 2nd RB? I'm thinking going RB-WR-WR-RB-QB and by my guesstimation Benson would be the worst I could do at the 4th pick.
In my 16 team league Benson was the 1st pick of the 10th round (snake draft). So you might have a better option there anyhow.
Ronnie Dobbs2
08-28-2009, 03:59 PM
Wow, that seems late. In my 12 team Benson went 9(3), or 99th overall. Still far away from TLK's.
RBs who went in my 4th round (PPR):
Derrick Ward
Knowshown Moreno
In my 5th:
Felix Jones
Thomas Jones
Joseph Addai
Wow, that seems late. In my 12 team Benson went 9(3), or 99th overall. Still far away from TLK's.
RBs who went in my 4th round (PPR):
Derrick Ward
Knowshown Moreno
In my 5th:
Felix Jones
Thomas Jones
Joseph Addai
I have Benson above four of those... Ward being the exception.
Ronnie Dobbs2
08-28-2009, 04:45 PM
Well, if you want to take him there, go ahead. He very well could be available later. His ADP on Yahoo! is 112.8
General Mike
08-29-2009, 12:50 PM
12 team snake draft. QB can be used in the flex spot.
QB - Matt Hasselbeck
RB - Frank Gore
RB - Ray Rice
WR - Andre Johnson
WR - Terrell Owens
TE - Jason Witten
Flex - Brett Favre
Defense - Dallas
K -
Bench - Steve Breaston, Brian Robiskie, Jerious Norwood, Sammy Morris, Fred Taylor, Kyle Orton
IR - Adam Viniateri
I'll cut Morris for a kicker closer to opening day.
Passacaglia
08-30-2009, 04:16 PM
Here's my first one, 8 team league, I picked 5th:
QB: Peyton Manning (3)
RB: Maurice Jones-Drew (1)
RB/WR: Steve Smith, Car (4)
RB/WR: Frank Gore (5)
WR: Larry Fitzgerald (2)
TE: Chris Cooley (7)
K: (will have to drop someone and pick one up later)
DL: Julius Peppers (9)
LB: Lance Briggs (8)
DB: Yeremiah Bell (10)
DB: Jim Leonhard (15)
Bench: Terrell Owens (6)
Bench: Cedric Benson (11)
Bench: Eddie Royal (12)
Bench: Roy Williams (13)
Bench: Chad Ochocinco (14)
Bench: Devin Hester (16)
Qwikshot
08-30-2009, 04:33 PM
Awesome, thank you guys. I thought that since I still had Calvin Johnson, that would lessen the blow of losing Andre. Then being able to pick up a bona-fide top 10 back for one of them might help my wishy washy RB situation. I think you guys talked me out of it though!
Thanks again for the advice.
The biggest challenge sometimes is /not/ doing anything. You are always looking for an advantage, but in your case, I think holding is the best policy.
ColtCrazy
08-30-2009, 07:16 PM
Would love your feedback on this team.
8 team league
QB: 4 pts TD, 1 pt 20 yards passing -2 Int
RB/WR/TE: 6 pts TD 1 pt per 10 yards run/receive 1 pt reception -1 fumble
K
Def
You start 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 K, 1 Def, and 1 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
My team:
QB: Romo, Rivers
RB: Slaton, Westbrook, Stephen Jackson, Leon Washington
WR: Colston, Welker, Santana Moss, Berrian
TE: Cooley, Shiancoe
K - Keading, Gostkowski
Def: Vikings, Redskins
k0ruptr
08-30-2009, 07:37 PM
Same here let me know what you guys think, kind of an odd league with only 1 starter at each position 12 team league
QB Philip Rivers/ Roethlisberger
RB/ FLEX Steve Slaton/ LT/ Marshawn Lynch/Rashard Mendenhall
WR Welker/Cotchery/Ochocinco/Torry Holt
TE John Carlson
K Mason Crosby/ Neil Rackers
Def Tampa/NYJ
Def Player Demarcus Ware
I semi like my team, I think I'm good at RB/flex
WR maybe maybe not
rowech
08-30-2009, 07:56 PM
General Mike -- gotta be honest...not a big fan. Just too many guys I don't have faith in for a variety of reasons.
Passaglia -- tough for me to judge that team since there are only 8 teams in your league. I think I really like your team though. There's not a slot that I have any serious questions.
Colt Crazy -- same thing for me judging since you only have 8 teams but I think I like your team as well. I might trade one of your RB for a more consistent WR. I'm always petrified to have Westbrook on my team but he can often carry huge value in trades.
K0ruptr -- I agree with your assessment. Your WRs leave some to possibly be desired. I'd figure out who has Willie Parker and see if you could work something for Mendenhall to get a WR. Maybe package him and Holt to get a better option?
k0ruptr
08-30-2009, 08:04 PM
Good idea, didnt think of that. I'm gonna work on it.
Passacaglia
08-30-2009, 08:09 PM
Thanks, rowech. The individual defense makes that league weird, and the scoring is always wonky compared to other leagues, so it can definitely be difficult. I'm definitely interested in other opinions, and will post my 12-team league roster after I have that draft on Wednesday.
CleBrownsfan
08-30-2009, 08:11 PM
I wasn't going to post my team but I really thought I had a poor draft - what do you guys think?
10 man PPR league - 6 pnts for all TD. 1 pnt for every 25 yds rushing/receiving. 1 pnt for every 50 yds. passing.
QB: Brady & Delhomme
RB: P.Thomas - C.Portis - Kevin Smith - Jonathan Stewart - Chester Taylor
WR: L.Fitz - Anthony Gonzalez - Earl Bennett - J. Cotchery - Chris Henry
TE: Shockey - Zach Miller
K: Who cares
DT: Who cares
Am I being to hard on myself? :confused:
Racer
08-30-2009, 08:35 PM
I wasn't going to post my team but I really thought I had a poor draft - what do you guys think?
10 man PPR league - 6 pnts for all TD. 1 pnt for every 25 yds rushing/receiving. 1 pnt for every 50 yds. passing.
QB: Brady & Delhomme
RB: P.Thomas - C.Portis - Kevin Smith - Jonathan Stewart - Chester Taylor
WR: L.Fitz - Anthony Gonzalez - Earl Bennett - J. Cotchery - Chris Henry
TE: Shockey - Zach Miller
K: Who cares
DT: Who cares
Am I being to hard on myself? :confused:
Haven't played in a 10 team league in awhile, but to me, you seem to have a decent team.
QB - Top 3 QB here. Good job.
RB: Thomas and Smith I would think would give you an above average RB core.
WR: Fitz is a top 4 WR, Gonzalez a top 20, and I'm guessing if you're active on the waiver wire in a 10 team league you can find another top 15-25 WR.
TE: Don't like Shockey as a #1 and actually Miller better. You're a bit weak here.
Overall, seems like a playoff team to me.
Also, pretty cool feature I found.
hxxp://subscribers.footballguys.com/rate-my-team/form.php
You enter in your team's roster and league settings and then it auto-generates four different guys analysis of yours teams weaknesses and strengths. Seems pretty neat.
General Mike
08-30-2009, 09:09 PM
General Mike -- gotta be honest...not a big fan. Just too many guys I don't have faith in for a variety of reasons.
Fair. I rolled the dice early on Rice and Knowshon. Would have liked a better #1 QB, but i didn't like the gamble of guys like McNabb or Palmer.
CleBrownsfan
08-30-2009, 09:13 PM
Haven't played in a 10 team league in awhile, but to me, you seem to have a decent team.
QB - Top 3 QB here. Good job.
RB: Thomas and Smith I would think would give you an above average RB core.
WR: Fitz is a top 4 WR, Gonzalez a top 20, and I'm guessing if you're active on the waiver wire in a 10 team league you can find another top 15-25 WR.
TE: Don't like Shockey as a #1 and actually Miller better. You're a bit weak here.
Overall, seems like a playoff team to me.
Also, pretty cool feature I found.
hxxp://subscribers.footballguys.com/rate-my-team/form.php
You enter in your team's roster and league settings and then it auto-generates four different guys analysis of yours teams weaknesses and strengths. Seems pretty neat.
Thanks Racer - And very cool feature on that site!
Neuqua
08-30-2009, 09:24 PM
I feel kind of underwhelmed with my team, anyone have any opinions?
I picked 7th out of 10.
.5 PPR, 6TD for pass TD
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1 FLX, 1 D, 1K
QB Carson Palmer
QB Matt Ryan
RB Steven Jackson
RB Clinton Portis
RB Ryan Grant
RB Felix Jones
RB Darrick Ward
WR Calvin Johnson
WR Anthony Gonzalez
WR Terrell Owens
WR Torry Holt
WR Steve Breaston
TE Zach Miller
TD San Diego Chargers
K Nick Folk
albionmoonlight
08-30-2009, 09:51 PM
I feel kind of underwhelmed with my team, anyone have any opinions?
I picked 7th out of 10.
.5 PPR, 6TD for pass TD
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1 FLX, 1 D, 1K
QB Carson Palmer
QB Matt Ryan
RB Steven Jackson
RB Clinton Portis
RB Ryan Grant
RB Felix Jones
RB Darrick Ward
WR Calvin Johnson
WR Anthony Gonzalez
WR Terrell Owens
WR Torry Holt
WR Steve Breaston
TE Zach Miller
TD San Diego Chargers
K Nick Folk
You have good RB depth. I think that Jackson will do really well this season. You will probably have to be active trading the first couple weeks of the season. Try to sell one of your RBs high after a good game or two and buy a QB or WR low.
Last year, Portis ran out of gas. If he comes out of the gates gangbusters, I'd consider trading him early.
Passacaglia
08-30-2009, 09:53 PM
Racer, that site is awesome. Plus it's telling me what I want to hear -- especially if I take out my last three WRs, and add in a K, backup QB, and backup TE.
Racer
08-30-2009, 09:59 PM
I feel kind of underwhelmed with my team, anyone have any opinions?
I picked 7th out of 10.
.5 PPR, 6TD for pass TD
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1 FLX, 1 D, 1K
QB Carson Palmer
QB Matt Ryan
RB Steven Jackson
RB Clinton Portis
RB Ryan Grant
RB Felix Jones
RB Darrick Ward
WR Calvin Johnson
WR Anthony Gonzalez
WR Terrell Owens
WR Torry Holt
WR Steve Breaston
TE Zach Miller
TD San Diego Chargers
K Nick Folk
QB: I think you're okay here. You have two nice sleepers and between the two, I think one will be an average starter for a 10 team league.
RB: Other then Felix and maybe Ward (depends on how many carries Graham and Cadillac get), I think the guys you drafted might be a bit overrated based on the ADPs I've been seeing. I do think you have excellent depth and probably above average the position.
WR: I think you're probably a little above average here.
Ragone
08-30-2009, 10:03 PM
10 team 2 person keeper ppr league (1 qb 2 rb 3 wr 1 te 1 d/st 1 k 1 flex)
Qb:Jay Cutler/ Matt Cassel(flacco and favre on waiver wire.. gonna wait till monday to see report)
RB:M. Jones-Drew(Keeper)/Brandon Jacobs/Ray Rice/Donald Brown/Jamal Lewis
Wr:Calvin Johnson(Keeper)/Roddy White/Dwayne Bowe/Torry Holt/Devin Hester/Josh Morgan/Kenny Britt/Micheal Crabtree(last round pick)
Te:Tony Gonzalez
D/st:Chargers
K:Kaeding
Danny
08-31-2009, 12:22 AM
10 team standard scoring league
QB Favre, J. Russell
RB Lynch, Sproles, C. Williams, T Choice
WR H. Ward, P Crayton, I Bruce, M Manningham and D Heyward-Bey
TE Whitten, Gates
K Ghostkowski
D Pittsburgh, Baltimore
k0ruptr
08-31-2009, 04:25 AM
Just being honest I don't like your team at all Danny, what draft position were you? Lynch should be good but missing the first 3 games will hurt.
I'm not sure I can even figure out who your first pick was?
at least your loaded at TE.
Danny
08-31-2009, 04:44 AM
Honestly, I was just poking fun at all the people posting who have exceptionally strong teams :)
Danny
08-31-2009, 04:45 AM
But for the sake of argument, let's say I took Pitt D in round one. I imagine there is some draft somewhere in which that did happen.
k0ruptr
08-31-2009, 05:42 AM
Ok good haha, I didn't want to be a complete dick and say your team is fucking horrible.
k0ruptr
08-31-2009, 05:43 AM
dola, I think it's more realistic that a Favre homer took him in round 1.
B & B
08-31-2009, 09:57 AM
12 team PPR league. 10 of the 12 teams are savvy FF drafters you would expect with a 300 buy in. 4pts pass TD, all other 6. 10yds rush/rec 1pt. 20yds pass 1pt.
QB - Brees, Cassel
RB - R.Brown, K.Smith, F.Jones, F.Jackson, S.Green
WR - A.Johnson, Royal, Coles, Avery, Hixon
TE - Z.Miller
Went #1 WR then #1 QB which is why my backs look weak. Im actually fine with those two as starters. Royal was the best WR I could have gotten in the 5th round.
spleen1015
08-31-2009, 11:28 AM
My team from the FOOL FFL.
12 team league, QB, RBx2, WRx3, RB/WR/TE, TE, K, DEF
QB - McNabb, Pennington
RB - Gore, Moreno, Lynch, F. Jackson, L. Washington, C. Taylor
WR - Calvin Johnson, D. Jackson, Cotchery, Sidney Rice, Gage
TE - Cooley, Shockey
DataKing
08-31-2009, 11:33 AM
Finally had my draft over the weekend. I'd like to know peoples' thoughts.
Scoring
Touchdown-heavy, big-play heavy league.
QB (1 starter)
TD: 4 pts + 1 pt/20 yds
Yardage: 100 yds = 1 pt, 200 yds = 3 pts, 300 yds = 6 pts, etc.
RB (2 starters, can swap 1 for a 4th WR/TE)
TD: 6 pts + 1 pt/10 yds
Yardage: 50 yds = 1 pt, 100 yds = 3 pts, 150 yds = 6 pts, etc.
WR/TE (3 starters)(interchangeable, no required TE spot)
TD: 5 pts + 1 pt/15 yds
Yardage: 50 yds = 1 pt, 100 yds = 3 pts, 150 yds = 6 pts, etc.
K (1 starter)
PAT: 1 pt
FG: 1 pt/10 yds.
DEF/ST (1 starter)
Pts Allowed: 15 - pts allowed (15 pts for shutout, 12 pts for 3 pts allowed, 8 pts for 7 pts allowed, no negatives)
Turnovers: 2 pts
Sacks: 1 pt
TDs: 6 pts.
Roster (keepers listed in italics)
QB: Eli Manning, David Garrard, Kerry Collins
RB: Matt Forte, Brian Westbrook, Ronnie Brown, Tim Hightower
WR/TE: Andre Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald, Anthony Gonzalez, Torry Holt, Chris Cooley
DEF/ST: Minnesota Vikings, Jacksonville Jaguars
K: Nick Folk, Sebastian Janikowski
My Analysis
QB: I had the #1 overall pick in my draft, but couldn't turn that into a top-flight QB despite my best efforts. All of the big names were kept, and the asking price was too high for Brady, Manning (Peyton) and Rodgers. I was pleased to see the Eli was still available at 2.04, and I plan to play the matchup game with him and Garrard most of the season. Collins is strictly depth (lack of depth killed me last year).
RB: You can tell from my scoring that this is a RB-focused league, so RBs are the focus of a lot of guys' keepers, myself included. The best guys available going into the draft were Ryan Grant and Steven Jackson, and they were gone by the 9th pick. Forte will be my steady points producer, and I'll probably prefer Westbrook over Brown (depending on matchups) from week-to-week. Beanie Wells will probably get a lot of Hightower's touches in the desert, but Hightower will be the goal-line guy I think, we should make him a decent fill-in on bye weeks if necessary.
WR/TE: The obvious strength of my team. I took Fitzgerald at #1 overall, and pairing him up with Andre Johnson gives me the best WR corps in the league, without question. Week-to-week Gonzalez probably is my 3rd starter, but a favorable matchup here and there will get Holt or Cooley a start.
DEF/ST: Minnesota was the 4th defense selected (Bears, Steelers, and Ravens were off the board at that point). I took the Vikes over the G-men, but it was a close thing. Overall defensively I think both will be relatively close (two truly dominant defensive lines), but the potential of Percy Harvin as a kick returner outshines anything the Giants have to offer.
K: Nick Folk...meh. Not too excited here, but Folk was a relatively late pickup. He'll kick in a dome for 9 of his games this year, as well as 1 game at Mile High. A strong leg and relatively accurate...but I have to question how many opportunities he'll have compared to years past. My best hope is that defenses stack the line inside the 20 and the Cowboys have to resort to a lot of field goals when Barber/Jones get stuffed.
*One additional note. For reasons I have yet to fathom, my league requires everyone to have 2 kickers and 2 defenses when the draft is done, but not that you keep that many once the season gets started. So as soon as waivers open up (today), a lot of guys drop theirs and go for some sleepers. So the Jaguars and Seabass are gone soon.
Danny
08-31-2009, 11:34 AM
I'd say you are about average at every position, though I don't care for Penningon as a backup Q too much.
Danny
08-31-2009, 11:39 AM
That was to Spleen
For DK, not related to your team, but I don't like that scoring at all as it devalues WR and TE.
For your team, QB's are weak, I have Manning ranked about 20th for QB's.
RB's look really good, though with the receiving scoring, Westbrook has slightly lower value in your league.
Receivers are great even with the reduced scoring.
Overall a very strong team, though I really don't like Manning for fantasy.
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 RB/WR, 1 TE, 1 K, 1 D/ST
Here's my squad:
QB: Brees, Palmer
RB: D. Williams, J. Stewart, Felix Jones, Leon Washington
WR: Antonio Bryant, Roddy White, Braylon Edwards, Donald Driver, Steve Breaston
TE: Tony Gonzalez, John Carlson
K: Mason Crosby
D/ST: Vikings, Dolphins
Here's my question. I'm looking to make a trade, do you guys think I should go for another #1 back to go with Williams and ride it out with the WR's, or stick with my backs and shoot for a true #1 WR? I'm not sold on Bryant, only bc I think the Bucs QB's suck, I know I shouldn't really doubt White, but I do. Edwards can be huge, but at the same time can be mediocre, and I'm pretty confident Driver/Breaston will be solid, but not spectacular.
DataKing
08-31-2009, 12:17 PM
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 RB/WR, 1 TE, 1 K, 1 D/ST
Here's my squad:
QB: Brees, Palmer
RB: D. Williams, J. Stewart, Felix Jones, Leon Washington
WR: Antonio Bryant, Roddy White, Braylon Edwards, Donald Driver, Steve Breaston
TE: Tony Gonzalez, John Carlson
K: Mason Crosby
D/ST: Vikings, Dolphins
Here's my question. I'm looking to make a trade, do you guys think I should go for another #1 back to go with Williams and ride it out with the WR's, or stick with my backs and shoot for a true #1 WR? I'm not sold on Bryant, only bc I think the Bucs QB's suck, I know I shouldn't really doubt White, but I do. Edwards can be huge, but at the same time can be mediocre, and I'm pretty confident Driver/Breaston will be solid, but not spectacular.
If it were me, I'd be trying to make a deal for a starting back that is not in a running-back-by-committee situation. You'll get much more consistent production that way, and I think with that RB/WR flex position you'd be better off with a RB in that spot week-in and week-out. Jones and Washington are talented, but how many touches are those guys going to get, really?
I share your hesitation on Bryant as well. Leftwich's windup is so long that DBs can stop for a coffee break and still have time to break on the ball, so a lot of balls intended for him are going to get deflected or picked off. Nothing against Bryant himself, but it's only the really exceptional WRs out there who can be productive no matter who is throwing them the ball (Andre Johnson, TO, etc).
PurdueBrad
08-31-2009, 10:01 PM
Alright guys, some big concerns with my draft. My history in this league is 1 title, 2 second place finishes and a 9'th place. We're a 12 team league, we start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 D, 1 K with yard scoring (1 point per 20 passing, receiving, 1 point per 10 rushing), all tds for 6 points, and point per reception.
QB- Tom Brady, David Garrard
RB- Ronnie Brown, Kevin Smith, Thomas Jones, Joseph Addai
WR- Randy Moss, Dwayne Bowe, DeSean Jackson, Torry Holt, Donald Driver
TE- Zack Miller (Oak), Jeremy Shockey
D- San Diego
K- Nate Kaeding
Running back looks like a disaster to me and outside of the QB spot, not really sure how I look the rest of the way. I usually am disappointed following a draft and then end up well but I would love your thoughts. Thanks in advance.
k0ruptr
08-31-2009, 10:09 PM
Brady to Moss will help make up for RB, but I would pray that Ronnie Brown has a breakout year. Kevin Smith is decent too.. Give it a couple weeks, maybe Holt/Bowe will start hot and you can come up with some kind of deal for an Ideal back.
Danny
08-31-2009, 10:15 PM
QB is great. I think if you can trade Jones for a different running back with his value then your RB will be ok. I think Jones is going to be just about done this year and will disappoint owners. WR are solid, TE are ok, K and D are fine too.
PurdueBrad
08-31-2009, 10:16 PM
Thanks K0ruptr and Danny, appreciate it. Kind of thinking the same thing regarding pulling off a trade.
stevew
08-31-2009, 10:55 PM
10 team league. Drafted 4
No PPR
QB. Romo Flacco.
RB slaton, tom Jones, lendale, Leon washington, bensen
WR. Fitz, Jennings, A gonzo, ant Bryant,
TE Keller, Zach Miller
K Bironas
D Packers.
Fred Jackson too
We play 2 RB. 2WR. 1 flex, QB, D and kicker.
I invested too heavily in the Jets.
I guess I don't think Ill win but with a lot of these picks I don't really feel there were better players I passed on
Slaton, Fitzgerald, Jennings, Romo, Jones, Lendale were my first 6 picks
12 Team (1 QB/1 RB/3 WR/1 TE/1 FLEX/1 K/1 DEF) non-ppr. Picking 4th.
QB - M. Schwab (4), C. Palmer (11)
RB - M. Forte (1), R. Rice (5), A. Bradshaw (9), L. McCoy (10)
WR - Roddy White (2), A. Boldin (3), L. Evans (6), A. Gonzalez (7), K. Walter (8), P. Crayton (16)
TE - J. Finley (14), B. Celek (15)
K - S. Gostkowski (12)
DEF - Chicago (13)
As a bonus, I was running my mouth to the previous champion and he let me pick his K/DEF for Week 1 when I play him. Dave Raymer and Detroit Lions were the selections.
k0ruptr
09-02-2009, 10:57 PM
TLK,
Good job getting Forte 4th, I've seen him go 1, 2 and 3 so I think that is good value there. White is solid, as is Boldin, and even if the rest of your recievers have down years, I think your good here. (Crayton is good value in the 16th round). K and DEF seems decent, although IMO Gostkowski won't kick as many FG's as last year.
Touching on RB again, I'm not sold on Rice being the man in Baltimore, McGahee isn't a bad back, and seems to be getting the majority of the goalline carries here, as 10 TD scorer McClain has moved to FB. McCoy might be the best value here if anything happens to westbrook. (and it already seems to be a little bit) Bradshaw is a good back to have also, knowing Brandon Jacobs and the way he runs.
TE leaves a bit to be desired. Where did Shiancoe, John Carlson and Vernon Davis get drafted? I do like Finley this year tho. Not so high on Celek.
QB is scary as those 2 have a not so good injury history. If they stay healthy they both could be top 10 fantasy QB's. but I'd rather have someone who can play through injuries or at least not have the injury history of them.
Good luck with the season, and overall you have a pretty decent team.
Julio Riddols
09-03-2009, 02:53 AM
Heres My first team of the season, 20 team league, starting 2 QB, 3 WR, 2 RB, 2 TE, D, K.
Points are 5 yards per point for RB/WR, WR tds are worth 7, and its 25 yds per point passing with 4 points for TDs.
I had the 20th pick which had me stoked.
QB - Aaron Rodgers
QB - Philip Rivers
RB - Cedric Benson
RB - Derrick Ward
WR - Ted Ginn Jr.
WR - Michael Jenkins
WR - Chris Henry
TE - Greg Olsen
TE - Jermichael Finley
K - Neil Rackers
D/ST - Atlanta
BN- RB LEON WASHINGTON (Got him in like round 9 or so.)
BN- WR Malcolm Kelly - Might start if he plays a lot for the skins
BN- WR Austin Collie
BN- WR Joshua Cribbs
BN- WR Andre Caldwell
BN- WR Jason Avant
BN- QB Chris Simms
BN- QB Chad Henne
BN- RB Bernard Scott
BN- WR Patrick Crayton
I was amazed at the depth I was able to assemble in a 20 team draft. The league is heavily slanted toward yardage for RB and WR, and I think I got 3 RB who will get significant PT. The plan with WR is to play matchups and hot hands most of the season, because a lot of these guys are bubble number 2s for their teams. I think we should be in quite good shape.
Passacaglia
09-03-2009, 07:05 AM
20 team league starting 2 QBs? That's madness! Not to mention that draft must have taken forever!
wade moore
09-03-2009, 07:21 AM
Ok,.. 13 team league (yes, it's stupid) 1 QB 2 RB 2 WR 1 RB/WR 1 TE 1 DST...
QBs get a full 6 points for TDs:
QB: Peyton Manning, Kerry Collins
RB: Clinton Portis, Darren McFadden, Tim Hightower, Earnest Graham, Ricky Williams
WR: L. Coles, Vincent Jackson, Derrick Mason
TE: Tony Gonzalez
DST: Giants
K: Vinatieri
Because Vinatieri was my keeper (we could only keep players drafted after round 5 last year and I had a horrible draft last year), it forced me to take another K. So I'll be waiving Matt Bryant as soon as it will let me and picking up a WR.
wade moore
09-03-2009, 07:25 AM
20 team league starting 2 QBs? That's madness! Not to mention that draft must have taken forever!
That was my first reaction as well. You're basically saying about 8 teams cannot compete.
Ronnie Dobbs2
09-03-2009, 07:27 AM
Not to mention bye weeks and how that would skew overall scoring.
Samdari
09-03-2009, 07:28 AM
10 TD scorer McClain has moved to FB.
He started all 16 games at FB last year.
lordscarlet
09-03-2009, 09:54 AM
13 Teams
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 RB-WR, 1 TE, 1 K, 1 DST, 5 Reserves, 1 IR
It's a keeper league and this is the first year of keepers. The rule was anyone drafted by you last year in the 6th round or later. I kept Chris Johnson. I could have kept Phillip Rivers, but opted to take a RB isntead. I had the #2 pick in a snake draft.
QB
M Ryan
E Manning
RB
M Jones-Drew
C Johnson
L White
K Faulk
S Morris
WR
M Colston
R White
T Ginn Jr.
TE
A Gates
K Boss
K
J Reed
DST
Redskins
Chubby
09-03-2009, 11:36 AM
12 team league
3 (4) team divisions
my division members drafted 1, 10, 11, 12
I drafted 11th
#1 took AP 1st, #10 took WRs with his 1st 3 picks, #12 didn't show and his team sucks ass
QB: Ben Rothliesberger, Kurt Warner
RB: Thomas Jones, Joseph Addai, Leon Washington, Earnest Graham, Tashard Choice
WR: Larry Fitzgerald, Calvin Johnson, Dwayne Bowe, Domenik Hixon, Ted Ginn Jr, Steve Breaston
TE: Bo Scaife
K: Nate Kaeding
Def: Steelers
I took Fitz 1.11 and CJ 2.2 after Andre Johnson went 10th (9 Rbs before that). Got Warner in the 7th
Thoughts?
After 10 back and forth counter proposals I finally made a deal with my dad:
I get:
Matt Forte CHI
Lavurnes Coles CIN
Devrey Henderson NO
I send:
Larry Fitzgerald ARI
Dwayne Bowe KC
Tedd Ginn Jr MIA
Earnest Graham TB
albionmoonlight
09-03-2009, 12:01 PM
After 10 back and forth counter proposals I finally made a deal with my dad:
I get:
Matt Forte CHI
Lavurnes Coles CIN
Devrey Henderson NO
I send:
Larry Fitzgerald ARI
Dwayne Bowe KC
Tedd Ginn Jr MIA
Earnest Graham TB
FYI--Henderson and Robert Meachem fill the same role on the Saints offense (speed guy). Look at the week one box score. If Meachem has a lot of plays/targets in comparison to Henderson, then trade Henderson while you can. I think that one of those two guys will have an Az-Hakim in 99 type year. I am just not sure which one.
k0ruptr
09-03-2009, 03:15 PM
He started all 16 games at FB last year.
Thanks sam, I wasn't sure, I knew he played some at FB but thought he was more of a goal line/short yardage RB most of the time.
Chubby
09-03-2009, 04:52 PM
FYI--Henderson and Robert Meachem fill the same role on the Saints offense (speed guy). Look at the week one box score. If Meachem has a lot of plays/targets in comparison to Henderson, then trade Henderson while you can. I think that one of those two guys will have an Az-Hakim in 99 type year. I am just not sure which one.
Well it will open up a roster spot for me as I'm sending 4 and getting 3. Ginn and Graham I got REAL late in the draft. Bowe I got late (6th or 7th round) and with Cassell out and their offense sucking major donkey balls I'm happy to get value for him when I can. Yah, I'll watch with Henderson but I plan on starting Megatron with Hixon at WR and now Forte, Addai, Thomas Jones at RB week one.
AlexB
09-05-2009, 04:00 PM
Just had our draft today... 14 team keeper league (keepers only based on 'salary').
PPC & for 1st downs, have to start QB, 1 RB and 5 receivers, or 2 RB & 4 receivers, at least one of which has to be a TE. Plus one IDP per position group
QB Philip Rivers, Trent Edwards (k)
RB Ryan Grant (k), Chris Johnson (k), Joespeh Addai
WR Anquan Boldin (k), Wes Welker (k), Eddie Royal (k), Percy Harvin
TE Jason Witten
K Rob Bironas
DL Justin Smith, Chris Long
LB Karlos Dansby, Lofa Tatupu
DB Adrian Wilson, Nate Clements
Flyer picks
RB Brandon Marshall (to back up Grant), Jerome Harrison
WR Earl Bennett, Austin Collie, Laurent Robinson
The league heavily favours QBs, and WR/RB are roughly equal, perhaps with a slight bias towards WR. I'm pretty happy with it - solid in most areas I think without being spectacular in any.
Theory behind an all NFC West defence is that they all get to play each other (!), and the rest of that division's schedule allows them to make plays...
ArlingtonColt
09-07-2009, 10:52 PM
12 team PPR league I chose 11th, I usually wait a LONG time on QB's and it seemed to work out well until allovasudden a backup QB run started and I had yet to grab my starter... ugh anyways here is my squad
You start: QB, RB, RB, FLEX, WR, WR, TE, Def, K
QB: Matt Cassell, Kyle Orton
RB: Steve Slaton, Brian Westbrook, Marshawn Lynch, Ahmad Bradshaw, Earnest Graham, Jamaal Charles
WR: Terrell Owens, Brandon Marshall, Hines Ward, Jericho Cotchery, Earl Bennett
TE: Zach Miller, Visanthe Shiancoe
D: Jets
K: WAIVER (we have 3 slots at the end of the bench undrafted)
MY HOPES are that I am able to trade my RB depth and one of my marginal QB's for a dependable starting QB
Izulde
09-08-2009, 11:01 PM
12 team league, standard scoring (I think) with 0.25 points per rush
Positions:
QB
RB
RB
WR
WR
TE
Flex (QB/RB/WR)
K
DE
QB - Drew Brees, Jason Campbell
RB - Brandon Jacobs, Marshawn Lynch, Tim Hightower, Laurence Maroney
WR - Roddy White, Hines Ward, Ted Ginn Jr, Kenny Britt
TE - Chris Cooley, Anthony Fasano
K - John Carney
D - Miami
I don't know how I feel about my team this year. I got my usual A-list QB in the first round as per my usual draft strategy, but I also feel like I have really terrible depth, especially at QB and that my WR situation is just ugly.
What do yu guys think?
MikeVic
09-08-2009, 11:44 PM
Two leagues, two teams:
League 1 (4-pt TD passes, the rest is pretty standard. Defense shutouts are really big. Start QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, K, DEF/ST... 12-team league, I was 3rd last year):
QB: T. Romo, E. Manning
RB: Chris Johnson (Keeper), P. Thomas, L. White, T. Hightower
WR: R. Wayne (Keeper), S. Moss, S. Breaston, T. Ginn, P. Harvin
TE: G. Olsen
K: N.Rackers
DEF/ST: Jets
League 2 (6-pt TD passes, rest is standard. Start QB, 2RB, 2WR, K, DEF/ST... 14-team league, I was 2nd last year):
QB: P. Rivers, C. Palmer (although after the draft I had a verbal agreement to trade for A. Rodgers one-for-one. I wanted Rodgers more and he wanted Rivers more).
RB: D. Williams, D. Ward, L. White, J. Stewart
WR: D. Bowe, M. Colston, A. Gonzalez
K: Gostkowski
DEF: Jets
I feel alright about both teams overall, but not fascinated by either. I think I have decent depth on the second team though.
Julio Riddols
09-09-2009, 03:20 AM
My 8- team league, more traditional setup: I always try to get into a 20 team league every year, just for the amount of teams. You have to be real smart about what you pick when in a league like that.. This league will be a more evenly matched one, as depth in an 8 team league isn't an issue.
This one starts the following:
1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, RB/WR, TE, K, Def
10 yards per point for RB/WR/TE
25 yards per point for QB
4 points for passing TDs, all others worth 6, traditional scoring otherwise.
QB: A. Rodgers / M. Sanchez
RB: B. Jacobs / R. Brown / C. Benson / L. Washington / D. Sproles
WR: R. Moss / C. Ochocinco / S. Holmes / S. Breaston
TE: G. Olsen / D. Keller
K: J. Elam
DEF: Baltimore
I think this is a very strong team, with consistency at WR being my biggest concern. I think Jacobs and Benson are very underrated (Took Jacobs at number 2, which raised some brows) And having 3 sure-fire starters at RB plus a couple rush/receive guys in Washington and Sproles gives us flexibility and the ability to play matchups. Sanchez is a slight question mark at QB, but he should be solid enough to keep us in the game he will have to start for us.
spleen1015
09-09-2009, 07:50 AM
Here's the team I just finished drafting in my office league. The draft usually take 2-3 weeks because we do it over email.
1.10 - Larry Fitzgerald
2.1 - Calvin Johnson
3.10 - Ronnie Brown
4.1 - Pierre Thomas
5.10 - Jason Witten
6.1 - Aaron Rodgers
7.10 - Lance Moore
8.1 - Beannie Wells
9.10 - Donald Driver
10.1 - Julius Jones
11.10 - Donnie Avery
12.1 - Chester Taylor
13.10 - Matt Schaub
14.1 - Leon Washington
15.10 - Patriots Defense
16.1 - Mason Crosby
The surprises to me were Rodgers and Schaub falling to me where they did. Pierre Thomas got hurt a couple of days after I picked him. What a bummer.
spleen1015
09-10-2009, 06:12 AM
The team I drafted last night....
1.1 - Adrian Peterson
2.10 - Brandon Jacobs
3.1 - Drew Brees
4.10 - Roy Williams
5.1 - Vincent Jackson
6.10 - Willie Parker
7.1 - Brandon Marshall
8.10 - Beannie Wells
9.1 - Lance Moore
10.10 - Chester Taylor
11.1 - Chris Henry
12.10 - James Davis
13.1 - David Garrard
14.10 - Jets Defense
15.1 - Mason Crosby
16.10 - Jeremy Shockey
There was an initial run on TEs starting at 4.4. The first 4 TEs were taken and I figured Williams and Jackson were better than the TEs that were left. By 6.10, there was another run on them and I was the only team without a TE. So, decided to just wait until there weren't any other players I wanted before a TE. Then folks started picking backup TEs and Shockey was the only some what decent option left.
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