Ping: Referee

[Poli]

Team A has ball on their own 30 yard line. Team A attempts to pass, but it is intercepted by Team B at the 50. Team B returns the interception 10 yards before fumbling the ball. Team A recovers the football on their own 40 yard line. Flag on the play: Roughing the passer on the defense.

Sort this out, please.

[stevew]

Roughing the passer negates all the other calls I believe. Team A has the ball on their 45(first and 10)?

Unless the ball was intercepted before the infraction occurred. Then it's Team A's ball on the other teams 45?

[CU Tiger]

dpends on whether he was roughed on the return or during the act of passing

[Coffee Warlord]

As I recall, the QB becomes a regular player once an interception occurs. You can only rough the passer when he's, well, a passer. If he's picked off and gets blocked / shoved during the INT return, he's fair game.

So if it's a legit roughing the passer call, it's all nullified, team A ball from I *think* the original line of scrimmage + 15 yards.

[Poli]

Roughing the passer was called during the act of passing.

[Dr. Sak]

Since B fouled before the INT (i'm assuming) they do not keep the ball. You can't have a change of possession with "dirty hands". Ball goes back to the previous spot, tack on 15 and an automatic first down. If there had not been a change of possession, you tack it on from the end of the run.

[Dr. Sak]

Maybe I'll restart my officiating question of the day :)

[Poli]

Sweet. I love referees. I saw a similar play where the penalty yards were tacked on to the end of the play. Same referee I had a problem with last season.

I know better, you know better, but apparently this referee knows more than all of us together.

[Dr. Sak]

As I recall, the QB becomes a regular player once an interception occurs. You can only rough the passer when he's, well, a passer. If he's picked off and gets blocked / shoved during the INT return, he's fair game.

So if it's a legit roughing the passer call, it's all nullified, team A ball from I *think* the original line of scrimmage + 15 yards.

That is true but if the QB is not in the play, for example the ball is 40 yards down field and a returning team player just pounds the QB, you can call an unsportsmanlike. But at that time B would retain the ball.

[stevew]

What if Team B intercepts at the 50, the returning team(B) gets called for a personal foul on the return, and then fumbles and A recovers on their 40?

[Dr. Sak]

What if Team B intercepts at the 50, the returning team(B) gets called for a personal foul on the return, and then fumbles and A recovers on their 40?

Tack on 15 from the end of the run. First and 10 for A on B's 45.

[Suburban Rhythm]

Maybe I'll restart my officiating question of the day :)

Exactly what I came into here to post...

But with no FOFC access from work anymore, I'll need mine mailed.