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albionmoonlight
09-07-2009, 07:52 AM
For my third RB/flex spot:
Larry Johnson (Kansas City at Baltimore) OR
Derrick Ward (Dallas at Tampa Bay)
I have not watched the Chiefs or the Bucs this preseason. Anyone have a read on these players? Is Ward supposed to get a lot of touches? Is Johnson the clear #1 in KC? Thoughts?
At QB:
Tony Romo (Dallas at Tampa Bay) OR
Matt Shaub (Jets at Houston)
I am 95% certain that I am going to start Romo here, but if anyone had a "for the love of God, don't do that" argument to make, I am all ears.
henry296
09-07-2009, 10:31 AM
Even if Johnson is the clear #1, i'm always leary about starting vs. Baltimore even if Ward might split carries 3 ways.
stevew
09-07-2009, 11:31 AM
May as welll post too-
I have these guys set in stone Slaton/Thomas Jones at RB, and Fitz/Jennings at WR.
Out of these guys, I need a flex
Anthony Gonzalez
Antonio Bryant
Lendale White
Cedric Bensen
Leon Washington
FRED JACKSON
Danny
09-07-2009, 11:33 AM
Not Bryant, assuming its not a PPR league, probably Bensen
henry296
09-07-2009, 11:41 AM
Steve - probably like either Benson or Gonzalez.
What about Fred Jackson vs. Jerricho Cotchery?
stevew
09-07-2009, 11:42 AM
Oh, I forgot, I have Fred Jackson too.
Danny
09-07-2009, 11:43 AM
Again, assuming it's not PPR, then if unsure always go with the starting running back. In general, it's generally more consistent production.
henry296
09-07-2009, 11:58 AM
I should add that my league is a 1 pt for every 2 receptions, no half points.
albionmoonlight
09-07-2009, 01:27 PM
May as welll post too-
I have these guys set in stone Slaton/Thomas Jones at RB, and Fitz/Jennings at WR.
Out of these guys, I need a flex
Anthony Gonzalez
Antonio Bryant
Lendale White
Cedric Bensen
Leon Washington
FRED JACKSON
I think that I'd go with Benson. I think that he's going to have a good year (I was upset when someone took him 2 round too early in my fantasy draft; I was hoping to steal him.).
On the one hand, I think that Gonzales is your safest option. But, when given a choice, I think that you really have to weigh RB a lot higher for the flex position.
So, if I were you, I'd go Benson, but I think that it would be defensible to go Gonzales.
bigmouth
09-07-2009, 02:10 PM
For my third RB/flex spot:
Larry Johnson (Kansas City at Baltimore) OR
Derrick Ward (Dallas at Tampa Bay)
I have not watched the Chiefs or the Bucs this preseason. Anyone have a read on these players? Is Ward supposed to get a lot of touches? Is Johnson the clear #1 in KC? Thoughts?
At QB:
Tony Romo (Dallas at Tampa Bay) OR
Matt Shaub (Jets at Houston)
I am 95% certain that I am going to start Romo here, but if anyone had a "for the love of God, don't do that" argument to make, I am all ears.
johnson is the clear number 1 but he is behind a god awful line. it looks like he's also coming out on third down passing situations for jamal charles.
Thomkal
09-08-2009, 09:06 AM
Got pulled into a auction draft at the last second, drafting tonight. I haven't strongly followed preseason news or various teams, so I'm unsure in some cases who might be starting for some teams. Anyone know of a site that has up-to-date projected starters for each team?
Doug5984
09-08-2009, 09:11 AM
We play 2 RB / 2 WR / 1 Flex (TE counts as WR)
I have Larry Johnson and Dwayne Bowe- both playing Balt, that worries me a lot.
On my bench I have- Donald Brown, Chester Taylor, Cadillac Williams, Earl Bennett, Donald Driver, Lee Evans, Anthony Gonzalez, & Chris Henry
Should I pull both off the starting roster and go with 2 from the bench- I'm a little weary to go with A Gonzo since I also have Peyton Manning & Reggie Wayne (I know I have to many colts but they all slipped in the draft- I will live and die by the colts this year)
albionmoonlight
09-08-2009, 09:22 AM
We play 2 RB / 2 WR / 1 Flex (TE counts as WR)
I have Larry Johnson and Dwayne Bowe- both playing Balt, that worries me a lot.
On my bench I have- Donald Brown, Chester Taylor, Cadillac Williams, Earl Bennett, Donald Driver, Lee Evans, Anthony Gonzalez, & Chris Henry
Should I pull both off the starting roster and go with 2 from the bench- I'm a little weary to go with A Gonzo since I also have Peyton Manning & Reggie Wayne (I know I have to many colts but they all slipped in the draft- I will live and die by the colts this year)
I think that too much can be made of matchups. You want to play your best players. Your Johnson/Williams decision is exactaly my Johnson/Ward decision. Until we see what Tampa Bay is going to do, I am hesitant to start any of their RBs.
I mean, you have to think that Johnson is going to get at least 10 carries. I don't think that I can say that about anyone on Tampa's offense.
I do think that I might look at replacing Bowe. Maybe Evans? I'm not convinced that T.O. has anything in the tank, so Evans is probably their #1 receiver.
Doug5984
09-08-2009, 09:32 AM
I think that too much can be made of matchups. You want to play your best players. Your Johnson/Williams decision is exactaly my Johnson/Ward decision. Until we see what Tampa Bay is going to do, I am hesitant to start any of their RBs.
I mean, you have to think that Johnson is going to get at least 10 carries. I don't think that I can say that about anyone on Tampa's offense.
I do think that I might look at replacing Bowe. Maybe Evans? I'm not convinced that T.O. has anything in the tank, so Evans is probably their #1 receiver.
Yeah it's a tough call, like you said Johnson will get the touches- just not sure on Bowe- although he is the only receiving threat they have. This early in the season I might have to just go with the talent and see what happens, Baltimore's defense might lose a couple steps this year- so who knows.
Qwikshot
09-08-2009, 11:01 AM
Yahoo Keeper League (Initial Season)
1QB: Schaub (S), Orton
2RB: C. Johnson (S), Ray Rice (S), Darren McFadden, Derrick Ward, Earnest Graham and Donald Brown
2WR: A. Johnson (S), G. Jennings (S), A. Gonzalez, Percy Harvin
1 W/R: ?
Do I start McFadden vs San Diego or Gonzalez vs Jacksonville?
This really is a woeful Raiders team, San Diego allowed about 16.6 points last season vs runningbacks per game (8th best).
Jacksonville allowed 20.4 points per game last season versus wide receivers (20th overall) and this will be against a potent Colts team.
* all data compiled from rotoworld.com
So to me, it makes sense to risk starting Gonzalez even though it's an offense that spreads the ball around, against McFadden who may be the primary offense against a top defense that will potentially shut him down, he's not even considered the winner for tailback, but it is guestimated he'll see about 15 rushes and 5 receptions (again data compiled from rotoworld.)
Points in this league are
1 point per 10 yards (running or receiving)
6 points per TD (throwing, catching, receiving)
K: Josh Brown
Def: Chicago
The league is split down the middle of using the W/R between running back and receiver.
Thanks
albionmoonlight
09-08-2009, 11:05 AM
Yahoo Keeper League (Initial Season)
1QB: Schaub (S), Orton
2RB: C. Johnson (S), Ray Rice (S), Darren McFadden, Derrick Ward, Earnest Graham and Donald Brown
2WR: A. Johnson (S), G. Jennings (S), A. Gonzalez, Percy Harvin
1 W/R: ?
Do I start McFadden vs San Diego or Gonzalez vs Jacksonville?
This really is a woeful Raiders team, San Diego allowed about 16.6 points last season vs runningbacks per game (8th best).
Jacksonville allowed 20.4 points per game last season versus wide receivers (20th overall) and this will be against a potent Colts team.
* all data compiled from rotoworld.com
So to me, it makes sense to risk starting Gonzalez even though it's an offense that spreads the ball around, against McFadden who may be the primary offense against a top defense that will potentially shut him down, he's not even considered the winner for tailback, but it is guestimated he'll see about 15 rushes and 5 receptions (again data compiled from rotoworld.)
Points in this league are
1 point per 10 yards (running or receiving)
6 points per TD (throwing, catching, receiving)
K: Josh Brown
Def: Chicago
The league is split down the middle of using the W/R between running back and receiver.
Thanks
I'd say Gonzales. Who knows what the Raiders will do. At least Gonzales will be out there.
NoSkillz
09-08-2009, 04:04 PM
Pretty standard league: PPR for receivers and 1/2 point per reception for running backs. BOLDED PLAYERS are my picks for starting this week...
QB (1): Ben Roethlisberger or Kyle Orton
RB (2): LaDainian Tomlinson, Stephen Jackson, Clinton Portis, LenDale White, Ricky Williams, Shonn Greene
WR/TE (3): Brandon Marshall, Santana Moss, Torry Holt, Percy Harvin, Jeremy Maclin, Mark Clayton, Juaquin Iglesias, Kellen Winslow
Flex - RB/WR/TE (1): Clinton Portis
K - Kris Brown
DEF - Seattle
I'm obviously super deep at RB but relatively weak at QB and WR. I think the only possible change is if Brandon Marshall is a go - do I take Torry Holt out or Winslow?
Flasch186
09-09-2009, 10:46 AM
Alright, Do I start:
Larry Johnson against the Ravens or tim hightower against the Niners
AND
Do I start Roddy White against the Dolphins or Hines Ward against the Titans
Ronnie Dobbs2
09-09-2009, 10:50 AM
I'd go Hightower/White.
QB: Roethlisberger (vs. TEN) or Flacco (vs. KC)
RB: Benson (vs. DEN) McFadden (vs. SD) or Moreno (@CIN)
claphamsa
09-09-2009, 05:52 PM
ok, im in a PPR league, 2 RB 2 WR and a flex
i have ochosinco, andre johson, justin gage, devry henderson, and michal jenkins as my recievers
i have willie harris, LJ and jacobs, chester tayler and ricky the puffer as my RBS
i think 85 johns, fast willie and jacobs are obvious, the flex... LJ?
albionmoonlight
09-09-2009, 06:29 PM
ok, im in a PPR league, 2 RB 2 WR and a flex
i have ochosinco, andre johson, justin gage, devry henderson, and michal jenkins as my recievers
i have willie harris, LJ and jacobs, chester tayler and ricky the puffer as my RBS
i think 85 johns, fast willie and jacobs are obvious, the flex... LJ?
Henderson is a big play guy. He has less value in a PPR league.
MikeVic
09-10-2009, 10:10 AM
I like to decide who to start on my own the majority of the time, but I find it very difficult at the beginning of the season...
I have Pierre Thomas in two leagues, and I'm assuming right now he isn't playing. Even though I'd love if he was since he's facing the Lions. :(
Anyway, in his place I don't know who to start for one league:
Hightower or LenDale White.
Keep in mind that I have Chris Johnson as my other starting RB... I have Hightower starting, but on ESPN LenDale is being started way more than Hightower...??
Izulde
09-10-2009, 10:15 AM
Flex:
TE Anthony Fasano @ ATL
QB Jason Campbell @ NYG
WR Ted Ginn, Jr. @ ATL
WR Kenny Britt @ PIT
Really torn between these four.
MikeVic
09-10-2009, 10:16 AM
Flex:
TE Anthony Fasano @ ATL
QB Jason Campbell @ NYG
WR Ted Ginn, Jr. @ ATL
WR Kenny Britt @ PIT
Really torn between these four.
I'd say Ginn has the highest upside. I'd eliminate Britt right away.
Ronnie Dobbs2
09-10-2009, 10:16 AM
PPR? 4 pt TD passes?
Izulde
09-10-2009, 10:20 AM
PPR? 4 pt TD passes?
1 point per reception, 6 points per TD in all areas
Ronnie Dobbs2
09-10-2009, 10:24 AM
I'd probably go for Campbell then. QBs tend to point more than RB/WR in 6pt TD pass leagues. Fasano over Ginn in a PPR as well.
ISiddiqui
09-10-2009, 10:49 AM
I got a Fantasy trade question. Since this was asking about starts, I'll keep it here. I have Greg Olsen at TE. Someone in my league wants to make a trade. I probably would ask for a WR in return. Here are the WR & TE in my league:
Me:
Greg Olsen (TE)
Anquan Boldin (WR)
Brandon Marshall (WR)
Antonio Bryant (WR)
Deion Branch (WR) - Reserve
Mark Clayton (WR) - Reserve
Him:
Visanthe Shiancoe (TE)
Larry Fitzgerald (WR)
Santonio Holmes (WR)
Santana Moss (WR)
Michael Crabtree (WR) - Reserve
Percy Harvin (WR) - Reserve
Oh, and this is going to be a keeper league. Obviously going to involve Olsen for Shiancoe, but then was thinking of offering Clayton or Bryant for Holmes, though even then I'm not sure if that would work. Maybe Olsen, Bryant, and Boldin for Shiancoe, Fitzgerald, and S. Moss (yeah, that's a dream, I know ;))?
Samdari
09-10-2009, 11:27 AM
6 points per TD in all areas
You should draft QBs as 1 and 2 every season in this league if you can play one at flex.
But Campbell is probably the best of a mediocre lot - no matter who they are playing.
Thomkal
09-10-2009, 02:11 PM
I like to decide who to start on my own the majority of the time, but I find it very difficult at the beginning of the season...
I have Pierre Thomas in two leagues, and I'm assuming right now he isn't playing. Even though I'd love if he was since he's facing the Lions. :(
Anyway, in his place I don't know who to start for one league:
Hightower or LenDale White.
Keep in mind that I have Chris Johnson as my other starting RB... I have Hightower starting, but on ESPN LenDale is being started way more than Hightower...??
It looks like Beanie Wells is going to be the starter for the Cards at this point, and they aren't exactly a run first team to begin with, so I'd likely go with White over Hightower. White's the backup to Johnson of course, but the Titans run more and so he will likely have more chances than Hightower.
RomaGoth
09-10-2009, 02:18 PM
I made this trade today:
Receive
RB Adrian Peterson
RB Michael Bush
WR Devin Hester
Lose
RB Darren McFadden
RB Frank Gore
WR Anquan Boldin
I didn't want to lose Gore or Boldin, but Peterson is too good to pass up, at least in my opinion.
Thoughts?
Ronnie Dobbs2
09-10-2009, 02:21 PM
Too much to give up.
molson
09-10-2009, 02:25 PM
For my third RB/flex spot:
Larry Johnson (Kansas City at Baltimore) OR
Derrick Ward (Dallas at Tampa Bay)
I have not watched the Chiefs or the Bucs this preseason. Anyone have a read on these players? Is Ward supposed to get a lot of touches? Is Johnson the clear #1 in KC? Thoughts?
At QB:
Tony Romo (Dallas at Tampa Bay) OR
Matt Shaub (Jets at Houston)
I am 95% certain that I am going to start Romo here, but if anyone had a "for the love of God, don't do that" argument to make, I am all ears.
I made this trade today:
Receive
RB Adrian Peterson
RB Michael Bush
WR Devin Hester
Lose
RB Darren McFadden
RB Frank Gore
WR Anquan Boldin
I didn't want to lose Gore or Boldin, but Peterson is too good to pass up, at least in my opinion.
Thoughts?
Who else do you have at RB? Peterson/Whoever else you have is probably a big upgrade over McFadden/Gore. And it needs to be to make up for what you're losing from Boldin to Hester.
It's pretty close, but I'd probably make the trade and sink or swin with Peterson, who is a much surer bet than anyone involved in this trade.
RomaGoth
09-10-2009, 02:25 PM
Too much to give up.
I kind of felt that way too, but Boldin is questionable to play (of course he WILL play, but if he has injuries again this year, who knows what can happen), and Gore has had injury problems too (year before last and in college).
Not sure about the usefulness of Michael Bush unless McFadden gets hurt or just stinks up the place (and Fargus does the same). Devin Hester may have some value as the only real receiving threat in Chicago and a return man.
Also, my QB situation is horrid. It was a live draft but I missed it due to other commitments. I have Cassel (injured), Roethlisberger (meh for fantasy stats), and Pennington....
I needed some more points on my roster and I am hoping AP gives me those, and then some. He should have a field day this weekend against the Browns defense. I also have Forte in the backfield, so I feel I have a couple of nice RB's at least.
Ronnie Dobbs2
09-10-2009, 02:27 PM
If your team is shallow, I wouldn't go around trading whatever good players you have for one player.
I see that trade as the
~8 RB
~20 RB
~8 WR
for
1 RB
~40 WR
molson
09-10-2009, 02:28 PM
Also, my QB situation is horrid. It was a live draft but I missed it due to other commitments. I have Cassel (injured), Roethlisberger (meh for fantasy stats), and Pennington....
That is pretty damn horrid.
I think maybe I'd consider adding another fringe QB if anyone is available (and maybe drop a fringe RB, since you have to bet the farm on Peterson at this point anyway). With 4 fringe QBs, you can sometimes piece together decent production week-to-week if you play the matchups right (depending on the size of your bench)
claphamsa
09-10-2009, 02:29 PM
Henderson is a big play guy. He has less value in a PPR league.
yeah, never really thought of starting henderson, hes likely to get cut for a kicker in week 8!
but i figured id include everyone :)
Ronnie Dobbs2
09-10-2009, 02:39 PM
RG - what do your WRs look like? What QBs does the other team have? Maybe you could add a QB to the equation. Do you start a flex?
RomaGoth
09-10-2009, 03:06 PM
Ok, here is my full roster:
QB - Chad Pennington
QB - Ben Roethlisberger
QB - Matt Cassel
RB - Adrian Peterson
RB - Matt Forte
RB - Fred Jackson
RB - Derrick Ward
RB - Jerious Norwood
RB - Michael Bush
WR - Dwayne Bowe
WR - Antonio Bryant
WR - Devin Hester
WR - Laveranues Coles
WR - Chansi Stuckey
TE - Visanthe Shiancoe
TE - John Carlson
Def - Tampa Bay
K - Lawrence Tynes
I have most definitely had better teams. In fact, this is one of the worst I have ever had.
*sigh*
Ronnie Dobbs2
09-10-2009, 03:13 PM
I missed that you'd already made the trade, my bad. I would have been less harsh.
Personally, with your QB situation and the fact that the league is very deep, I would drop Pennington and pick up an "upside" QB. I don't think Pennington will be as good as last year. Is there anyone promising available (Edwards? Flacco? Hill?)? You could think outside the box on a lottery ticket (Stafford? Leinart?) Do you start 2 QB or 1?
Sublime 2
09-10-2009, 03:16 PM
For my #2 RB I need to pick from:
Larry Johnson @ BAL
Ray Rice vs KC
Cadillac Williams vs DAL
Then for my flex (WR/RB) I need to pick from:
The two losers from above
Santana Moss @ NYG
Anthony Gonzalez vs. JAX
Lance Moore vs. DET
Ginn Jr. @ ATL
Bolded is who I'm thinking. I drafted Cadillac because it looks like he won out the starting position, but I know TB is looking at more of a 3 headed monster at RB, so who knows. I also have Lynch, who I expect to be my starting back beside Slaton, for week 4+.
RomaGoth
09-10-2009, 03:20 PM
I missed that you'd already made the trade, my bad. I would have been less harsh.
Personally, with your QB situation and the fact that the league is very deep, I would drop Pennington and pick up an "upside" QB. I don't think Pennington will be as good as last year. Is there anyone promising available (Edwards? Flacco? Hill?)? You could think outside the box on a lottery ticket (Stafford? Leinart?) Do you start 2 QB or 1?
Saun Hill and JaMarcus Russell....I think Hill would be a good pickup.
RomaGoth
09-10-2009, 03:28 PM
I dropped Pennington and Norwood for Hill and Matt Leinart (if Warner goes down, Leinart might be a great pickup).
Samdari
09-10-2009, 03:49 PM
For my #2 RB I need to pick from:
Larry Johnson @ BAL
Ray Rice vs KC
Cadillac Williams vs DAL
Then for my flex (WR/RB) I need to pick from:
The two losers from above
Santana Moss @ NYG
Anthony Gonzalez vs. JAX
Lance Moore vs. DET
Ginn Jr. @ ATL
Bolded is who I'm thinking. I drafted Cadillac because it looks like he won out the starting position, but I know TB is looking at more of a 3 headed monster at RB, so who knows. I also have Lynch, who I expect to be my starting back beside Slaton, for week 4+.
This one is easy. Ray Rice is going to start behind a great OL against a lousy run D. LJ is running behind a lousy OL against a great run defense. If I were you, I would try to trade LJ for anything you can get, before he has the first of many 30 yard games this weekend.
Moss is not a bad choice. He is, at least a #1 WR. I don't have much faith in Campbell though. I'd pick Gonzalez, but I can see the reasoning in starting Moss. Although, if you do go with LJ as your #2 RB, certainly Rice should be your flex.
Ronnie Dobbs2
09-10-2009, 03:59 PM
Would you start any of these over Portis (@NYG)?
Mike Bell(vs. DET), Darren Sproles(@OAK), Donald Brown (vs. JAX)
Samdari
09-10-2009, 04:05 PM
Would you start any of these over Portis (@NYG)?
Mike Bell(vs. DET), Darren Sproles(@OAK), Donald Brown (vs. JAX)
Ack. I like Portis, but that's a tough matchup. Personally, I would stick with Portis, unless I found out that Pierre Thomas was going to be inactive. Right now, we just can't be sure of any of the others getting a real opportunity. And we know Portis will get that.
RomaGoth
09-10-2009, 04:08 PM
Would you start any of these over Portis (@NYG)?
Mike Bell(vs. DET), Darren Sproles(@OAK), Donald Brown (vs. JAX)
A good rule of thumb is to always start your starter unless he is hurt. I saw this somewhere and try to live by it. Portis will get more touches, and should have at least an average game, while the other guys may not play much, if at all.
Ronnie Dobbs2
09-10-2009, 04:51 PM
Bell would only be an option if Thomas was out. That's no question.
It's .5 PPR and we get good points (1 for 20) for return yardage, which is why Sproles might be attractive.
albionmoonlight
09-10-2009, 05:06 PM
Even if Thomas is out, Bell will still split time with Bush. And the Saints have so many weapons. I suppose, if the game gets out of hand early, the Saints will probably rest Bush and Thomas in the second half and pound the ball with Bell.
All of which is to say that, if everything breaks perfectly, Bell will get as many touches as Portis is likely to get if everything goes normally.
MikeVic
09-11-2009, 11:35 AM
Not sure who to start:
Santana Moss
Ten Ginn Jr
Steve Breaston
Percy Harvin
I had Moss starting, but now it seems Boldin will be hampered so I think Breaston is a better start now...?
RomaGoth
09-11-2009, 11:41 AM
Not sure who to start:
Santana Moss
Ten Ginn Jr
Steve Breaston
Percy Harvin
I had Moss starting, but now it seems Boldin will be hampered so I think Breaston is a better start now...?
I would go with Breaston. Especially if he is going to return kicks/punts too.
RomaGoth
09-11-2009, 11:42 AM
Well, Big Ben got me 64 points in last nights game. I still have my starting QB Shaun Hill too.
claphamsa
09-11-2009, 11:43 AM
Im glad I started willie parker last night! STUD!
flere-imsaho
09-11-2009, 01:54 PM
RB Ryan Grant (Home vs. Chicago)
or
RB Cedric Benson (Home vs. Denver)
The way I figure it Grant is the safer bet, but without a lot of upside. Maybe 15-20 carries for less than 100 yards and only questionable on a TD. Benson, on the other hand, faces a defense which sucked last year and is unlikely to change, and even though the Cincinnati offense isn't great (we think), Denver's O with Orton at QB isn't going to be like having Cutler at QB.
Honolulu_Blue
09-11-2009, 02:21 PM
Bell would only be an option if Thomas was out. That's no question.
It's .5 PPR and we get good points (1 for 20) for return yardage, which is why Sproles might be attractive.
Thomas is out.
DataKing
09-11-2009, 02:47 PM
Can someone who follows the Eagles closely tell me what the deal is with Westbrook? I'm trying to decide whether to go with him or Ronnie Brown (against the Dirty Birds).
CleBrownsfan
09-13-2009, 11:23 AM
PPR league...Clinton Portis or Chester Taylor?
miked
09-13-2009, 01:11 PM
My opponent has PHI DEF today. Wow.
MikeVic
09-13-2009, 03:44 PM
Breaston out apparently... wtf.
stevew
09-13-2009, 11:25 PM
shocked I won my game.
Had Gonzalez go for 0 points. Slaton for 2. Got 1 out of Bironas.
Romo got a bunch of points, and Jennings as well. Thomas Jones must have picked up a bunch of garbage points or something.
Qwikshot
09-14-2009, 05:59 AM
rough rough week for me, the bright spots were Jennings and Ray Rice (though no TD); Matt Schaub looks like the 2nd coming of suck and down goes Johnson with him. I was fine with Chris Johnson struggling against Pitt, but Anthony Gonzalez really hurt me.
And I got zero points from Josh Brown; thank-you Rams!
the_meanstrosity
09-14-2009, 06:20 AM
Anyone have any good potential waiver wire options for this week? I know it will depend on league sizes, etc, but figured I'd throw it out there.
I've got Chicago's defense, but I'm thinking about grabbing San Diego simply because they play in the AFC West against some ineffective offenses. The only reason I haven't done it yet (and I'm assuming others as well) is because of Merriman's recent issues. Any word on if Merriman will be punished? Thoughts on Chicago vs San Diego?
Qwikshot
09-14-2009, 06:27 AM
Should I dump Chicago DEF for TEN?
I'm dropping A-Gonz for Carnell Williams and then dropping Earnest Graham for a decent third receiver option (whoever I pick-up I cannot keep for next season: so far I'm leaning towards Chris Johnson, Percy Harvin and Donald Brown).
Were the Rams that terrible to not even get a field goal option, should I grab Rackers?
With Urlacher hurt and the fact that Chi-towns O seems rattled, I'd lean to grab another defense myself...
RomaGoth
09-14-2009, 08:53 AM
Anyone have any good potential waiver wire options for this week? I know it will depend on league sizes, etc, but figured I'd throw it out there.
I've got Chicago's defense, but I'm thinking about grabbing San Diego simply because they play in the AFC West against some ineffective offenses. The only reason I haven't done it yet (and I'm assuming others as well) is because of Merriman's recent issues. Any word on if Merriman will be punished? Thoughts on Chicago vs San Diego?
Should I dump Chicago DEF for TEN?
I'm dropping A-Gonz for Carnell Williams and then dropping Earnest Graham for a decent third receiver option (whoever I pick-up I cannot keep for next season: so far I'm leaning towards Chris Johnson, Percy Harvin and Donald Brown).
Were the Rams that terrible to not even get a field goal option, should I grab Rackers?
With Urlacher hurt and the fact that Chi-towns O seems rattled, I'd lean to grab another defense myself...
I have the Tennessee defense and they did very well for me this week. As for waiver options, not sure who is available in your leagues, but I would pick up Chansy Stuckey (Jets WR), he had a really good day yesterday, and looks to be at least a top-2 receiver for Sanchez this year.
This is my first yr doing fantasy football, someone care to explain the scoring system? I'm assuming it goes by total points gained for the yr, but I suppose my real question is, does margin of victory matter?
flere-imsaho
09-14-2009, 09:44 AM
Depends on your league. Many (most?) leagues are head-to-head, which means the margin of victory each week won't matter, but your overall points scored may be used as a tiebreaker for standings when determining who gets into the playoffs.
Qwikshot
09-14-2009, 09:50 AM
I have the Tennessee defense and they did very well for me this week. As for waiver options, not sure who is available in your leagues, but I would pick up Chansy Stuckey (Jets WR), he had a really good day yesterday, and looks to be at least a top-2 receiver for Sanchez this year.
Stuckey is available, however, I'm 10th in waiver (grabbed Oakland's TE Zack Miller; dropped Vernon Davis - funny thing, the guy that dropped Miller grabbed Carlson, now I feel like a fool).
I like Britt as well from TENN, I'll have to wait and see.
I'm holding off on Cadillac too, chances are, I'm not getting him, so I'll wait and see what happens after the fur flies.
Too early to panic, but Joe Flacco was grabbed hours before I could get him off the wire, he's a guy I'd love to have over Schaub and Orten.
Does anyone think Sanchez is an upgrade, should I monitor him for possible pickup?
Qwikshot
09-14-2009, 10:06 AM
Lots of good defenses to pluck off the wire (Jets, Falcons, Titans, and Green Bay; Seattle is out there too but it was against the Rams).
MikeVic
09-14-2009, 10:37 AM
What defenses were drafted if the Jets, Titans, and Packers are on waivers? Those three were drafted in every league I'm in I think (Jets and Titans for sure, and Packers as a sleeper pick).
Qwikshot
09-14-2009, 11:38 AM
What defenses were drafted if the Jets, Titans, and Packers are on waivers? Those three were drafted in every league I'm in I think (Jets and Titans for sure, and Packers as a sleeper pick).
It's a 10 team league, I imagine, Philadelphia, New England, Chicago (me), Baltimore, San Diego, New York Giants, that's five right there. New Orleans (vs Det), Carolina (?), Minnesota, Pittsburgh, Arizona.
Ronnie Dobbs2
09-14-2009, 11:40 AM
I would take any of those three over NE, Chicago, NO, Carolina, Arizona.
Qwikshot
09-14-2009, 11:59 AM
I would take any of those three over NE, Chicago, NO, Carolina, Arizona.
New Orleans was just a matchup thing...I'll wait and see...
RomaGoth
09-14-2009, 12:21 PM
Stuckey is available, however, I'm 10th in waiver (grabbed Oakland's TE Zack Miller; dropped Vernon Davis - funny thing, the guy that dropped Miller grabbed Carlson, now I feel like a fool).
I like Britt as well from TENN, I'll have to wait and see.
I'm holding off on Cadillac too, chances are, I'm not getting him, so I'll wait and see what happens after the fur flies.
Too early to panic, but Joe Flacco was grabbed hours before I could get him off the wire, he's a guy I'd love to have over Schaub and Orten.
Does anyone think Sanchez is an upgrade, should I monitor him for possible pickup?
Sanchez could be a great option for someone with a poor selection of QB's (like me). In fact, I picked him up this week (assuming nobody else does first, I am 3rd in waiver order). I'm assuming you are referring to John Carleson, the TE from Seattle? If so, he was great this weekend for me. I also started Flacco over Schaub (glad I did too).
Doug5984
09-16-2009, 08:18 AM
A little early in the week but I'll start it off-
QB Peyton Manning - Start
RB Matt Forte - PIT
RB Reggie Bush - PHI
RB Larry Johnson - OAK
RB Cadillac Williams - BUF
WR Reggie Wayne - Start
WR Dwayne Bowe - OAK
Donald Driver, Lee Evans, Earl Bennett Chris Henry....
Basically I start 2 RB / 2 WR 1 flex. Pretty certain I'm going with Wayne & Bowe at WR. RB is a complete toss up though. Forte didn't look great and is playing a great D. Larry Johnson didn't look good but was playing a great D. Cadillac was great and should do good again. I am a huge Saints fan and have a feeling Reggie is going to have a big game. My gut is telling me bench forte, go with the other 3? Is that a good move?
Flasch186
09-16-2009, 08:19 AM
I have LJ and am scared to start him although I feel like he could have a big year (not true wk. 1)
Ronnie Dobbs2
09-16-2009, 08:23 AM
I would start Williams and Forte. I know the matchup isn't good, but Forte is still a better start than Bush or Johnson IMO.
albionmoonlight
09-16-2009, 08:33 AM
Doug--
I'd rank your backs for week 2: Forte, Williams, Bush, Johnson. Maybe even Johnson ahead of Bush.
Chicago looked like a mess Sunday night, but one of the obvious remedies to Cutler should be to tell him "um, you know that running backs and tight ends are eligible receivers in the NFL, right?" The best remedy for a nervous QB trying to do too much is to call lots of runs and shorter passes. I see Lovie Smith leaning on his horse, Forte, going forward.
Williams seems like the best back that the Bucs have, so he's a lock.
I watch the Saints, too, and I don't think that Bush will have a great game. But, he will touch the ball 15 or so times, and he is a threat everytime he touches it, so you always have the potential for value with him.
Johnson played badly against Baltimore. I think it might be because he has nothing left in the tank. That said, he's still the only back they have.
Again, I'd go back and forth on Bush/Johson as to who to bench. I'd certainly not bench Forte, though.
Ronnie Dobbs2
09-16-2009, 08:37 AM
If the league is PPR I'd consider a WR at flex.
Doug5984
09-16-2009, 02:18 PM
not a ppr league, so Forte, Williams, _____, I will probably wait until sunday AM to decide- I could go with Johnson- if Bush does great- then good for the Saints, I'm happy. If he does horrible, he was on my bench, i'm not happy- but fantasy wise I made the right move...
stevew
09-16-2009, 02:24 PM
I'd play Forte, but you're just going to have to realistically think that his topside is 80 yards receiving/rushing and maybe 2 tds. I guess if you get that, you're happy though.
DataKing
09-16-2009, 02:55 PM
Steelers D is obviously tough against the run, but no Troy this week, so I'm looking for Forte to do better than expected (he's one of my starters too).
RedKingGold
09-17-2009, 08:10 AM
I've got two tough calls this week:
Starting Quarterback: Kurt Warner or Brett Favre?
Case for Warner - Warner is my regular starter. Although the Cardinals offense looked really ineffective last week, Warner still had a shit-ton of passing yards which is why I drafted him. I figure that whether or not Arizona is winning or losing or whichever of the receivers start, Warner will be throwing. Cardinals are playing Jacksonville (who allowed 301 passing yards last week)
Case for Favre - Packers are playing the Lions, enough said.
Current Thought: I'm leaning towards Warner because I also have Bernard Berrian. I figure starting Favre and Berrian is too much risk, especially because Berrian is coming back from an injury this week (although he is practicing with no restrictions).
Flex Spot: Roy E Williams vs. Darren Sproles vs. Devin Hester
Case for Williams: Put up good numbers for me in Week One, but it's clear he's the third option in Dallas behind those running backs and Witten.
Case for Sproles: LT is banged up and it looks like Sproles will be getting a lot of carries this week.
Case for Hester: The Bears treat him more like a #1 option than the Cowboys do Williams.
Other Considerations: In terms of matchups, all are facing tough teams (Williams - NYG, Sproles - BAL, Hester - PIT).
Early Thoughts: I'm thinking of going with Sproles, because at least I'm certain he'll get goal-line work.
Also, here is my current fantasy roster:
QB: Warner, Favre
RB: Gore, Run DMC, Sproles, Mewelde Moore, Sammie Morris
WR: Moss, Williams, Berrian, Hester, Breaston
TE: Heap, Fasano
D/ST: Giants
K: Folk
12-Team League through ESPN using their standard scoring system.
Ronnie Dobbs2
09-17-2009, 08:14 AM
Favre/Wililams for me. Though Sproles could be a decent option.
Sproles could also lose carries to Bennett.
flere-imsaho
09-17-2009, 08:58 AM
Until proven otherwise, you really have to go with any QB against the Lions. Hell, even Stafford (on my bench) scored a respectable amount of fantasy points. Your biggest worry is that Favre sits for Jackson early.
Flasch186
09-17-2009, 08:59 AM
Trade Advice
Im being offered Michael Turner and J. Maclin for Roddy White and Thomas Jones (I have L. Washington too).
Thoughts? My current WR corps has White, Moss, Ward and Crayton
Currently at RB I have Jones (+Washington), LJ (+his backup), Hightower.
thoughts?
DataKing
09-17-2009, 10:15 AM
Trade Advice
Im being offered Michael Turner and J. Maclin for Roddy White and Thomas Jones (I have L. Washington too).
Thoughts? My current WR corps has White, Moss, Ward and Crayton
Currently at RB I have Jones (+Washington), LJ (+his backup), Hightower.
thoughts?
I'm always leery of rookie WRs. For every Randy Moss, there are a dozen WRs that don't do sh*t their first two years in the league. Is he just a throw-in to make the rosters even?
Ronnie Dobbs2
09-17-2009, 10:25 AM
Ok, who would you drop LeSean McCoy for (who I am still high on, so if the answer is neither let me know):
Felix Jones or Jonathan Stewart?
molson
09-17-2009, 10:40 AM
Ok, who would you drop LeSean McCoy for (who I am still high on, so if the answer is neither let me know):
Felix Jones or Jonathan Stewart?
If we're talking your #4 or #5 RB, I'd stick with McCoy. Of the RBs starting ahead of those three guys on the depth chart, Westbrook is the most fragile, and McCoy has the most upside if he has to be the premiere back. And I think he was actually the highest-scoring RB of those 3 week one. If it's a PPR league, its an easier question, definitely go with McCoy.
If you need someone to start right now, I guess Stewart is the safest bet for a handful of points every week.
Ronnie Dobbs2
09-17-2009, 10:41 AM
Nah, it would be a speculative roster spot which is why it's a question. I'm pretty high on Jones as well (or, low on Barber) but the injuries worry me.
Flasch186
09-17-2009, 10:50 AM
I'm always leery of rookie WRs. For every Randy Moss, there are a dozen WRs that don't do sh*t their first two years in the league. Is he just a throw-in to make the rosters even?
yes, but I think that im not gaining a TON to go from Jones to Turner considering ATL's schedule. While Im downgrading a TON from White to Maclin. no?
Ronnie Dobbs2
09-17-2009, 10:53 AM
Are you PPR? Which Moss do you have (I'm assuming Santana)?
I guess it depends on how high you are on Turner and how low on Jones; I'd rather have Washington that Jones (though I play PPR only) and am not all THAT high on Turner.
Honolulu_Blue
09-17-2009, 10:56 AM
Who do I start:
Matt Schaub vs. Tennessee
or
Carson Palmer vs. Green Bay
Flasch186
09-17-2009, 11:03 AM
Are you PPR? Which Moss do you have (I'm assuming Santana)?
I guess it depends on how high you are on Turner and how low on Jones; I'd rather have Washington that Jones (though I play PPR only) and am not all THAT high on Turner.
I have Randy and it is PPR, I like having Jones and Washington to go along with LJ or Hightower.
Im just not sure going from Roddy White to starting H. Ward on a week in week out basis is the smartest move, you?
Ronnie Dobbs2
09-17-2009, 11:06 AM
If you have Randy and its PPR you can handle the loss of White. However, since its PPR Turner is not quite the stud he would be otherwise.
Having Hines Ward as a WR2 behind Moss is just fine in my opinion.
I think it's a fair trade, all told, but I'm not sure you need to do it.
Ronnie Dobbs2
09-17-2009, 11:07 AM
Who do I start:
Matt Schaub vs. Tennessee
or
Carson Palmer vs. Green Bay
Schaub for me, but neither is a great start.
Flasch186
09-17-2009, 11:14 AM
If you have Randy and its PPR you can handle the loss of White. However, since its PPR Turner is not quite the stud he would be otherwise.
Having Hines Ward as a WR2 behind Moss is just fine in my opinion.
I think it's a fair trade, all told, but I'm not sure you need to do it.
My team:
D. Mcnabb - B. Favre
T. Hightower, T. Jones, LJ (handcuffed), L. Washington, M. Bush
R. Moss, R. White, H. Ward, P. Crayton, L. Moore, M. Sims-Walker
G. Olsen
M. Crosby
GBpackers
Does this change your opinion OR does this solidify your opinion that I dont need to do this?
Ronnie Dobbs2
09-17-2009, 11:19 AM
Personally if I'm giving up White + Jones I'd try to find a better PPR fit than Turner. If you held on to Jones and swapped out LJ, I'd feel much better about it.
RomaGoth
09-17-2009, 11:29 AM
Who do I start:
Matt Schaub vs. Tennessee
or
Carson Palmer vs. Green Bay
Schaub
Samdari
09-17-2009, 11:32 AM
Stewart is the safest bet for a handful of points every week.
I would say he's the riskiest. One of his lower extremities has been gimpy since he entered the league, caused him to miss 3 weeks of TC and he's still missing practice because of it. You'll never know he's going to be healthy enough to suit up in any given week.
flere-imsaho
09-17-2009, 12:30 PM
Flasch - I don't see how that trade improves your squad, which looks pretty decent right now. It would be doing a trade really just to do a trade.
Ragone
09-17-2009, 12:59 PM
Trying to decide on a defense.. Have Bears currently.. really worried about a meltdown of their d now..
Seattle/Atlanta/Colts/49ers
(I preface this with saying the bears d was dropped in my league this week, i snapped them up, but not feeling really good about them currently)
Samdari
09-17-2009, 01:57 PM
I think that im not gaining a TON to go from Jones to Turner considering ATL's schedule. While Im downgrading a TON from White to Maclin. no?
This is exactly how I view that deal.
Honolulu_Blue
09-17-2009, 02:02 PM
Trying to decide on a defense.. Have Bears currently.. really worried about a meltdown of their d now..
Seattle/Atlanta/Colts/49ers
(I preface this with saying the bears d was dropped in my league this week, i snapped them up, but not feeling really good about them currently)
I like Atlanta, especially this week going up against Jake Turnover.
RomaGoth
09-17-2009, 02:37 PM
Trying to decide on a defense.. Have Bears currently.. really worried about a meltdown of their d now..
Seattle/Atlanta/Colts/49ers
(I preface this with saying the bears d was dropped in my league this week, i snapped them up, but not feeling really good about them currently)
I picked up Atlanta, they should have a field day against the Panthers.
DataKing
09-17-2009, 03:45 PM
Trying to decide on a defense.. Have Bears currently.. really worried about a meltdown of their d now..
Seattle/Atlanta/Colts/49ers
(I preface this with saying the bears d was dropped in my league this week, i snapped them up, but not feeling really good about them currently)
Urlacher is not as integral to the performance of Lovie's defense as you might think. Yes, his leadership will be missed, but he's not the most talented of the linebackers (that's Lance Briggs). Where he'll be missed is covering athletic TEs down the middle of the field.
The Bears D will feast or famine depending on the performance of Marinelli's defensive line.
Honolulu_Blue
09-17-2009, 04:02 PM
The Bears D will feast or famine depending on the performance of Marinelli's defensive line.
Their pad level and gap assignments should be awesome!
stevew
09-17-2009, 04:08 PM
I'd say the bears will give up roughly 17 points to the Steelers and probably force 2 turnovers. I don't think they'll score on special teams, although it's certainly a possibility. The Steelers won't be able to run on them, but the 5 wide passing sets will be hard for the Bears to contain.
sooner333
09-17-2009, 11:46 PM
This seems like a really silly question, but given Brees' success last week against Detroit, is there any reason to start Favre over Manning (@ Miami)?
CleBrownsfan
09-18-2009, 06:31 AM
This seems like a really silly question, but given Brees' success last week against Detroit, is there any reason to start Favre over Manning (@ Miami)?
No - You have to start Manning here IMO
CleBrownsfan
09-18-2009, 06:33 AM
Non-PPR standard scoring
Driver vs Cinci or Ocho @ GB?
RomaGoth
09-18-2009, 11:06 AM
This seems like a really silly question, but given Brees' success last week against Detroit, is there any reason to start Favre over Manning (@ Miami)?
The only time you bench Manning is during his bye week. Even with less talent around him than in past years, he is a starter every week.
Ronnie Dobbs2
09-18-2009, 11:08 AM
Non-PPR standard scoring
Driver vs Cinci or Ocho @ GB?
I'd say Ochocinco over Driver.
DataKing
09-18-2009, 01:46 PM
Non-PPR standard scoring
Driver vs Cinci or Ocho @ GB?
If the Packers still had Al Harris and Charles Woodson pressing on the line all the time, I'd actually consider Driver here. But from what I could tell from last week's game against the Bears, Capers' defense calls for the corners to drop off the line a bit more. This'll give Ocho the free release he needs to be effective (assuming Palmer stays upright).
DataKing
09-18-2009, 01:52 PM
Dola.
Matt Forte vs. Steelers (with no Polimalu) or Ronnie Brown vs. Colts? (TD-heavy league...no PPR).
dervack
09-18-2009, 08:52 PM
Typical league, must start 3;
Roy Williams vs Giants
Patrick Crayton vs Giants
Santonio Holmes at Bears
Harvin at Det
TJ at San Fran
Sublime 2
09-19-2009, 08:18 AM
Need to pick one:
Cadillac @ Buffalo
Sproles vs. Baltimore
McFadden @ KC
Hightower @ Jac
Leaning towards McFadden, mostly because I'm afraid of Sproles against that Raven's D.
Ronnie Dobbs2
09-19-2009, 08:26 AM
Dola.
Matt Forte vs. Steelers (with no Polimalu) or Ronnie Brown vs. Colts? (TD-heavy league...no PPR).
Forte probably, but it's close. I think they'll try to work him in more but the matchup is bad. I'm very down on the Dolphins this year.
Typical league, must start 3;
Roy Williams vs Giants
Patrick Crayton vs Giants
Santonio Holmes at Bears
Harvin at Det
TJ at San Fran
Roy E., Santonio and TJ.
Cadillac @ Buffalo
Sproles vs. Baltimore
McFadden @ KC
Hightower @ Jac
McFadden is your best bet but I think Sproles and Williams are not bad as starts either.
miked
09-20-2009, 08:06 AM
Man, I suck...I gots to pick two between:
Kellen Winslow vs BUF
Josh Morgan vs. SEA
Mark Bradley vs. OAK
Mario Manningham vs. DAL
I also have Ginn vs. IND, but he sucks.
Racer
09-20-2009, 08:36 AM
.5 PPR, fractional scoring 1 point per 20 yards receiving/rushing, and 6 points for all touchdowns
Pick 2
Matt Forte (vs. Pit)
Ray Rice (@ San Diego)
Carnell Williams (@ Buf)
Michael Bush (@ KC) (not that it matters but my opponent is starting Darren McFadden)
Beanie Wells (@Jac)
I would normally go with Forte and Rice, but I really don't like Forte's matchup. Touchdowns make up a pretty big piece of the piece in this scoring system and Pittsburgh gave up just seven touchhowns last season (as well as only 3.3 ypc).
Racer
09-20-2009, 08:43 AM
Dola.
Matt Forte vs. Steelers (with no Polimalu) or Ronnie Brown vs. Colts? (TD-heavy league...no PPR).
Similar dilemma for me. The Colts held MJD in check last week, but the Steelers held RBs in check all of last season. Since your league is touchdown heavy (and the Steelers only gave up 7 rushing touchdowns last season), I'd probably go with Brown.
Typical league, must start 3;
Roy Williams vs Giants
Patrick Crayton vs Giants
Santonio Holmes at Bears
Harvin at Det
TJ at San Fran
I go Williams, Holmes, and Housh if Housh is playing. If Housh isn't playing, I might roll with Harvin over Crayton since Harvin is playing against the Lions.
Need to pick one:
Cadillac @ Buffalo
Sproles vs. Baltimore
McFadden @ KC
Hightower @ Jac
Leaning towards McFadden, mostly because I'm afraid of Sproles against that Raven's D.
I'd pick McFadden. The Chiefs defense gave up 198 yards against the run last week against Baltimore.
Comey
09-20-2009, 09:46 AM
I'm stuck:
RB (pick one):
Cadillac vs BUF
Barber vs NYG
Rice vs SD
(Chris Johnson is my #1)
WR (pick one)
Driver vs CIN
Royal vs CLV
Cotchery vs NE
(Calvin Johnson is my #1)
Out of the four who are not selected, who ranks best as my flex?
dervack
09-20-2009, 02:48 PM
I started Harvin over TJ and got a TD so far.
Qwikshot
09-20-2009, 05:19 PM
After getting destroyed last week, I managed to start Schaub, Andre Johnson, and Chris Johnson...I'm now beating my opponent by almost 100 points.
Ray Rice is a disappointment though, he's losing the red zone ops against MacGahee.
McFadden helped in my flex spot.
Jennings did nothing against Cincy, I could have started Gage or Harvin but listed as probable I was confident he'd get some chances.
Oh well, my opponent had Brady which made me nervous, but the Jets really got a nice defense going.
RedKingGold
09-20-2009, 09:34 PM
I've got two tough calls this week:
Starting Quarterback: Kurt Warner or Brett Favre?
Case for Warner - Warner is my regular starter. Although the Cardinals offense looked really ineffective last week, Warner still had a shit-ton of passing yards which is why I drafted him. I figure that whether or not Arizona is winning or losing or whichever of the receivers start, Warner will be throwing. Cardinals are playing Jacksonville (who allowed 301 passing yards last week)
Case for Favre - Packers are playing the Lions, enough said.
Current Thought: I'm leaning towards Warner because I also have Bernard Berrian. I figure starting Favre and Berrian is too much risk, especially because Berrian is coming back from an injury this week (although he is practicing with no restrictions).
Ended up going with Warner, who got me 17 points. Favre would've gotten me 14 points, so no real loss either way.
Flex Spot: Roy E Williams vs. Darren Sproles vs. Devin Hester
Case for Williams: Put up good numbers for me in Week One, but it's clear he's the third option in Dallas behind those running backs and Witten.
Case for Sproles: LT is banged up and it looks like Sproles will be getting a lot of carries this week.
Case for Hester: The Bears treat him more like a #1 option than the Cowboys do Williams.
Other Considerations: In terms of matchups, all are facing tough teams (Williams - NYG, Sproles - BAL, Hester - PIT).
Early Thoughts: I'm thinking of going with Sproles, because at least I'm certain he'll get goal-line work.
Ended up going with Sproles, who made me look like a genius with 20 points. Hester ended up with 2 points, and Williams right now has a whopping one point.
Also, here is my current fantasy roster:
QB: Warner, Favre
RB: Gore, Run DMC, Sproles, Mewelde Moore, Sammie Morris
WR: Moss, Williams, Berrian, Hester, Breaston
TE: Heap, Fasano
D/ST: Giants
K: Folk
12-Team League through ESPN using their standard scoring system.
We had the pleasure of taking on a team who had Chris Johnson today. Randy Moss did absolute crap for us, but Gore's big day along with Warner/Sproles have us out to a comfortable 104-90 margin.
He has no one in tomorrow's game, and only Dallas D/ST now, so it would take a crapload of turnovers from the Giants for him to come back.
On a related note, I'm not the biggest fantasy football person, but I'll admit that it has made more interested in NYG/DAL then I normally would be. I have Giants D and he has Dallas D, so it's been interesting.
All-in-all, a good fantasy day after what looked like a rough start with Johnson's big day.
MikeVic
09-20-2009, 11:17 PM
If you can believe it, I have Chris Johnson in a league and can still lose this week. :mad: All my other players had poor weeks (starting-wise, bench players are another story... horrible decisions on my part). I need to make up 16 points, with Reggie Wayne left for me and Dallas Clark left for the other guy.
flere-imsaho
09-21-2009, 09:26 AM
I had Adrian Peterson (the MIN one) last week in a league and lost because a) the other guy had Brees and b) none of my other guys did squat. When that happens you just feel like utter fail.
MikeVic
09-21-2009, 09:32 AM
I had Adrian Peterson (the MIN one) last week in a league and lost because a) the other guy had Brees and b) none of my other guys did squat. When that happens you just feel like utter fail.
I feel like I'm wasting his awesome week. Especially considering all of my decisions were wrong. The guy I started got 1-2 points, and the bench guy got 10-11. That's 30-40 points gone the other way. :mad:
DataKing
09-21-2009, 10:43 AM
I lost this week because I ran into Frank Gore (my league really rewards long touchdowns). Sad thing is I'm out-scoring 9 of the other 11 teams in my league...just a bad luck week.
dervack
09-21-2009, 07:59 PM
If you can believe it, I have Chris Johnson in a league and can still lose this week. :mad: All my other players had poor weeks (starting-wise, bench players are another story... horrible decisions on my part). I need to make up 16 points, with Reggie Wayne left for me and Dallas Clark left for the other guy.
Well that first play certainly didn't help you. I need 21 points out of Ronnie Brown to win. Yikes.
CleBrownsfan
09-23-2009, 07:41 AM
I'm not happy with my team at all - I'm 0-2 and 2nd to last in the power rankings. Any how I'm wondering if you guys could help me out on a couple positions. PPR league - 6pnts for all TD's - 1 pnt for 25 yards.
WR Pick one:
Manningham @ TB
Laurent Robinson vs GB
Cotchery vs TEN
RB Pick two:
Portis @ Det
Kevin Smith vs Wash
Pierre Thomas @ Buf
Jonathan Stewart @ Dal
Jamal Lewis @ Balt
Thanks for the help!
albionmoonlight
09-23-2009, 07:50 AM
I'm not happy with my team at all - I'm 0-2 and 2nd to last in the power rankings. Any how I'm wondering if you guys could help me out on a couple positions. PPR league - 6pnts for all TD's - 1 pnt for 25 yards.
WR Pick one:
Manningham @ TB
Laurent Robinson vs GB
Cotchery vs TEN
RB Pick two:
Portis @ Det
Kevin Smith vs Wash
Pierre Thomas @ Buf
Jonathan Stewart @ Dal
Jamal Lewis @ Balt
Thanks for the help!
With Thomas, you have two injuries to think about--his and Mike Bell's. At a minimum, you won't know until practice this week how they are doing. SaintsReport Community Forums (http://saintsreport.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=2) is the forum that will have the most up to date info.
As for your others, you have to think that Jamal Lewis is up for the Baltimore game. You also have to think that Balitmore is up for Jamal Lewis, so it might be a wash.
albionmoonlight
09-23-2009, 07:52 AM
6 pts for a TD pass
Shaub v Jacksonville OR
Romo v Carolina
Ronnie Dobbs2
09-23-2009, 08:13 AM
WR Pick one:
Manningham @ TB
RB Pick two:
Portis @ Det
Kevin Smith vs Wash
Pierre Thomas @ Buf
If Pierre Thomas is healthy AND looks like he's RB1, go with him over Smith.
Personally I wouldn't touch Lewis in nearly any matchup, and certainly not against the Ravens.
6 pts for a TD pass
Shaub v Jacksonville OR
Romo v Carolina
Schaub without question.
How about Ray Rice and Cadillac Williams for Steve Slaton? Fair Deal?
Samdari
09-23-2009, 09:40 AM
How about Ray Rice and Cadillac Williams for Steve Slaton? Fair Deal?
Since both Rice and Williams are about 90% to outscore Slaton this year, I'd say that's not a fair deal at all.
wade moore
09-23-2009, 09:40 AM
6 pts for a TD pass
Shaub v Jacksonville OR
Romo v Carolina
I'd go Shaub I think, but Barber being out makes it a harder choice.
DataKing
09-23-2009, 09:53 AM
Question for the 49er fans out there. I'm looking to shore up my WR3 since Anthony Gonzalez is hurt. Is there any reason to believe that Josh Morgan will outperform any of the following three (looking to drop Morgan and add one of these three through waivers):
1. Mario Manningham (probably won't get him, but worth a shot)
2. Devery Henderson
3. Laurent Robinson
Ronnie Dobbs2
09-23-2009, 10:42 AM
Any word on Brian Westbrook? Am I right in thinking that, if Westbrook is out, LeSean McCoy is a better start (vs. KC) than McFadden (vs. DEN) Moreno (@ OAK) or Benson (vs. PIT)?
Ronnie Dobbs2
09-23-2009, 10:43 AM
Question for the 49er fans out there. I'm looking to shore up my WR3 since Anthony Gonzalez is hurt. Is there any reason to believe that Josh Morgan will outperform any of the following three (looking to drop Morgan and add one of these three through waivers):
1. Mario Manningham (probably won't get him, but worth a shot)
2. Devery Henderson
3. Laurent Robinson
Not a 49er fan, but I would rather have Manningham or Robinson. Henderson is a total boom or bust type who I try to avoid.
MikeVic
09-23-2009, 11:05 AM
Eli Manning or Tony Romo? I'm really stuck on this one badly.
Neuqua
09-23-2009, 11:08 AM
Matt Ryan against New England
or
Carson Palmer against Pittsburgh?
MikeVic
09-23-2009, 11:11 AM
I'd say Matt Ryan.
Ronnie Dobbs2
09-23-2009, 11:12 AM
Ryan over Palmer. Manning-Romo seems a wash to me.
MikeVic
09-23-2009, 11:16 AM
Also, think Santana Moss bounces back this week finally?
My 2nd WR could be: Moss, Harvin, Ginn Jr., or Breaston.
Ronnie Dobbs2
09-23-2009, 11:18 AM
PPR league? If so, Moss for sure. If not, I'd still go Moss over Harvin but only by a sliver. If you get points for return yardage, perhaps that pushes Harvin ahead.
MikeVic
09-23-2009, 11:45 AM
Not PPR, but Moss' horrible outings are made me not like him much... nothing against the Rams? Why would he get anything against the Lions then? That's my thinking, but he's still a #1 and Harvin isn't...
Neuqua
09-23-2009, 12:00 PM
PPR League 6 pts for all TD's..
I can start 3 of the following RBs, and I can't decide which one to leave out, all the matchups look atleast somewhat solid. Any thoughts?
Ryan Grant @ STL
Steven Jackson vs. GB
Clinton Portis @ DET
Felix Jones vs Carolina
MikeVic
09-23-2009, 01:48 PM
I'm down on Washington's offense... I'd say Portis. But Jones might split with Choice?
Do we do trade advice here too?
Was offered these two:
Harvin for Carlson (I have Olsen as my TE right now).
Tim Hightower, Percy Harvin, and my 2nd rounder next year (4th rounder really since we keep two guys) for Steve Slaton, John Carlson, and Mike Bell. I have Pierre Thomas already. But I think Mike Bell is injured too?
Basically, the guy wants to move Steve Jackson, Steve Slaton, and John Carlson... and I want to jump on that if I can. Thoughts?
Samdari
09-23-2009, 01:50 PM
Not PPR, but Moss' horrible outings are made me not like him much... nothing against the Rams? Why would he get anything against the Lions then? That's my thinking, but he's still a #1 and Harvin isn't...
Harvin has the most targets among WRs.
I would stay away from anything to do with the Redskins passing game right now. The odds of the team scoring a TD, let alone an individual player, just seem very low.
Ronnie Dobbs2
09-23-2009, 01:52 PM
I'd leave Jones on th bench, Neuqua.
MV - I think this should become a fantasy catch-all, so trades are fine.
Harvin for Carlson doesn't make much sense unless you are moving Olsen right afterward. The larger trade looks good to me (I'm not down on Slaton much) though the draft pick is something I'm not used to factoring in. Maybe see if you can downgrade/remove the draft pick and get Carlson out of the deal?
MikeVic
09-23-2009, 01:56 PM
Yeah, I think Olsen can still become useful as a starter... I'm hoping at least. The only problem I see is then I'd have a 2nd WR of either Moss, Ginn Jr., or Breaston. But having Chris Johnson and Steve Slaton as my RBs would be nice...
Samdari
09-23-2009, 03:59 PM
I have an interesting choice myself this week:
Two of
Steven Jackson vs GB
DeAngelo Williams @ DAL
Ronnie Brown @ SD
Knowshon Moreno @ Oak
MikeVic
09-24-2009, 10:37 AM
I'd eliminate Moreno right away. I think Williams has the highest upside out of the remaining three.
MikeVic
09-24-2009, 10:40 AM
As for the trade I asked about yesterday...
The guy has Brandon Marshall... think I should get rid of Mike Bell from the deal and try to get Marshall back somehow, and use him as my WR #2? Maybe offer Olsen since I'd be getting back Carlson anyway...
albionmoonlight
09-24-2009, 11:10 AM
As for the trade I asked about yesterday...
The guy has Brandon Marshall... think I should get rid of Mike Bell from the deal and try to get Marshall back somehow, and use him as my WR #2? Maybe offer Olsen since I'd be getting back Carlson anyway...
I'd wait and see on Bell. I think that the coaches might feel more comfortable with him than Thomas at this point--even when both are healthy. If you have the roster space, I might keep him around for a week and see what happens in Buffalo. If Thomas does not get a lot of work v. the Bills, I'd figure that Bell is going to be the main back for the Saints when he comes back from the injury.
MikeVic
09-24-2009, 12:14 PM
I'd wait and see on Bell. I think that the coaches might feel more comfortable with him than Thomas at this point--even when both are healthy. If you have the roster space, I might keep him around for a week and see what happens in Buffalo. If Thomas does not get a lot of work v. the Bills, I'd figure that Bell is going to be the main back for the Saints when he comes back from the injury.
Well, it's a trade I'm working on. Mike Bell is in the deal right now. I have Pierre Thomas, that's why the guy threw him in for me. But my #2 WR would suck if I traded Harvin away... so I'm thinking of switching out Bell for Marshall.
Qwikshot
09-25-2009, 07:00 AM
I have an interesting choice myself this week:
Two of
Steven Jackson vs GB
DeAngelo Williams @ DAL
Ronnie Brown @ SD
Knowshon Moreno @ Oak
I'd go with Williams and Brown; Steve Jackson just seems to be in a bad way with the Rams offense.
Solecismic
09-25-2009, 12:25 PM
I had an interesting theory about the ten-team league I'm in, because it gave a slightly lower bonus for passing touchdowns (maybe 4 points instead of 6) and an insanely higher one for defenses.
All proud of myself for grabbing Pittsburgh, I then became the tenth person to draft a quarterback - a half-round after everyone else started picking up backups (oops, thought I would get Eli).
To make matters worse, I didn't immediately draft a backup myself, and ended up waiting until the last round (oops again).
So, my quarterbacks are: Carson Palmer, Jake Delhomme and Brett Favre (sort-of FAed as a joke). Somehow, I'm 1-1. Palmer has the "hot" hand of the three, but he's going against Polamaluless Pittsburgh. Who do I start? Or, better question, should I just accept I'm going to be taking some beatings this season. Someone offered me Joe Flacco for my best receiver. Gotta admire the guy for trying.
MikeVic
09-25-2009, 12:47 PM
I'm thinking Eli Manning over Romo right now... Bucs' defense sucks.
As for Jim's QB thing, I think you can play the matchups with Favre and Palmer? I don't trust Delhomme at all though. But expect frustrations with those two QBs I guess. :)
How about this one? If Westbrook is announced as out...
McCoy vs. KCY
or
Slaton vs. JAC
hoopsguy
09-27-2009, 07:05 AM
Got three I'm chewing on for today:
QB - Cutler @ Sea or E. Manning @ TB (storms predicted)
HB - two of three: Chris Johnson @ NYJ, S. Jackson vs GB, or W. McGahee vs Cle
D - Denver @ Oak or NYJ vs Ten
PurdueBrad
09-27-2009, 07:18 AM
Mine is pretty quick and I'm second-guessing myself a lot after last week:
Schaub vs. Jacksonville or Brady vs. Atlanta? 6 pts per td, -2 per pick, pt per 20 yards. Thanks in advance.
PurdueBrad
09-27-2009, 07:19 AM
Got three I'm chewing on for today:
QB - Cutler @ Sea or E. Manning @ TB (storms predicted)
HB - two of three: Chris Johnson @ NYJ, S. Jackson vs GB, or W. McGahee vs Cle
D - Denver @ Oak or NYJ vs Ten
QB- Cutler
HB- C. Johnson and McGahee (just for the goal line work)
D- Denver
PurdueBrad
09-27-2009, 07:19 AM
How about this one? If Westbrook is announced as out...
McCoy vs. KCY
or
Slaton vs. JAC
I think this is the week that Slaton gets things going, so I would take that gamble.
hoopsguy
09-27-2009, 08:44 AM
Mine is pretty quick and I'm second-guessing myself a lot after last week:
Schaub vs. Jacksonville or Brady vs. Atlanta? 6 pts per td, -2 per pick, pt per 20 yards. Thanks in advance.
I think Brady is the play here, as I'm guessing they are going to need to score points to win this game.
Mine is pretty quick and I'm second-guessing myself a lot after last week:
Schaub vs. Jacksonville or Brady vs. Atlanta? 6 pts per td, -2 per pick, pt per 20 yards. Thanks in advance.
Both games will be high-scoring. Probably can't go wrong with either. Hard to sit Schaub after last weeks game, especially going against a poor pass defense. Start Schaub.
Ronnie Dobbs2
09-27-2009, 09:13 AM
McCoy vs. KCY
or
Slaton vs. JAC
Slaton
QB - Cutler @ Sea or E. Manning @ TB (storms predicted)
HB - two of three: Chris Johnson @ NYJ, S. Jackson vs GB, or W. McGahee vs Cle
D - Denver @ Oak or NYJ vs Ten
Cutler
Johnson/Jackson (always start my studs)
NYJ
Schaub vs. Jacksonville or Brady vs. Atlanta?
The way Schaub looked last week vs. Brady last week you've got to go Schaub.
Ronnie Dobbs2
09-27-2009, 09:14 AM
Ok, I need to decide between McCoy and McFadden.
Who do you pick
a) if Westbrook plays but gets less work
b) if Westbrook is out
also, with DeSean's injury status, assuming he is active would you consider starting either Kevin Walter or Laurent Robinson over him?
Ronnie Dobbs2
09-27-2009, 10:36 AM
Westbrook looks to be out FWIW so I'm going McCoy.
rowech
09-27-2009, 10:58 AM
Benson at home against the Steelers or Felix Jones at home against the Panthers?
Normally, I'd go with Benson since he's a clear #1 but I get the impression Barber isn't going to play or is going to be really limited which would make Jones a fairly clear #1 as well. Thoughts?
RainMaker
09-27-2009, 11:11 AM
Jay Cutlers @ Seattle or Trent Edwards vs NO
RainMaker
09-27-2009, 11:12 AM
Benson at home against the Steelers or Felix Jones at home against the Panthers?
Normally, I'd go with Benson since he's a clear #1 but I get the impression Barber isn't going to play or is going to be really limited which would make Jones a fairly clear #1 as well. Thoughts?
I say Benson. Not sure if the Cowboys will use Jones near the goalline as I believe they use that back Choice.
Ronnie Dobbs2
09-27-2009, 11:39 AM
I actually like Edwards over Cutler.
DeToxRox
09-27-2009, 11:51 AM
Is it pouring in NE?
AlexB
09-27-2009, 11:54 AM
Philip Rivers (vs MIA) or Trent Edwards (vs NO)
Does the likely shootout against NO raise Edwards ahead of Rivers this week?
Solecismic
09-27-2009, 07:42 PM
I'm thinking Eli Manning over Romo right now... Bucs' defense sucks.
As for Jim's QB thing, I think you can play the matchups with Favre and Palmer? I don't trust Delhomme at all though. But expect frustrations with those two QBs I guess. :)
Went with Palmer, likely headed for a 1-2 record. Figured the Steelers would load up on Benson and would take an early lead, forcing passing accumulations. If I had chosen Favre, probably would have eked this week out. I didn't really consider Delhomme, should probably dump him and pick up a flyer.
I'm down 16 points going into tonight, I have Felix Jones and DeAngelo Williams going for me, while my opponent has Steve Smith. I'm not all too confident in pulling this one out, but I hope they run all over each other tonight, mostly Williams since I want the Boys to lose.
My fantasy question is this though, with the Bucs offense looking so terrible this week, I'm hesitant to keep Antonio Bryant in my starting lineup, so I'm thinking about going with a 3rd RB in my WR/RB flex spot, I'm gonna hold on to J. Stewart, should I drop Leon Washington and grab Bradshaw? I'm a huge Giants fan, so my gut says grab Bradshaw, but I'm looking for an unbiased opinion.
So I just took a look at the FA wire, and Roy Williams is also available. As of now, I have R. White and D. Driver locked in as my WR's, I took a gamble with B. Edwards and A. Bryant, but their teams just suck so bad they really can't produce. I like my Williams/McGahee RB combo, so with my flex position, should I go with Williams (WR), or stick it our with either Bradshaw/Washington/Stewart?
Samdari
09-28-2009, 01:19 PM
Philip Rivers (vs MIA) or Trent Edwards (vs NO)
Does the likely shootout against NO raise Edwards ahead of Rivers this week?
For the record, other than Rivers being definitively ruled out due to injury (or suspension) there is nothing that would elevate Edwards ahead of Rivers. Even then, its a toss up between Rivers and Edwards. Just cross this off of your list of things to think about each week.
flere-imsaho
09-29-2009, 09:08 AM
This isn't advice, just a funny story.
In one league (a PPR league), I have (actually, had) Frank Gore. Now, I've had Frank Gore in various leagues the past few seasons and he's always seemed to disappoint me, either between injuries, poor performance, or inconsistent performance.
So after Gore's awesome Week 2 performance, and given the fact that I need WRs (I started Earl Bennett and Braylon Edwards in Week 3, for example), I decided to sell high. My decision was also made by a sick feeling in my stomach that Gore was teetering on the edge of a) his team suddenly imploding or b) injury.
Prior to this weekend's games, then, I completed a trade (which will be official for Week 4) of:
Gore & TE V. Shiancoe
for
WR V. Jackson & TE J. Witten
I felt good before the weekend, but imagine how good I feel now! :D
Samdari
09-29-2009, 09:18 AM
I'm down 16 points going into tonight, I have Felix Jones and DeAngelo Williams going for me, while my opponent has Steve Smith. I'm not all too confident in pulling this one out, but I hope they run all over each other tonight, mostly Williams since I want the Boys to lose.
My fantasy question is this though, with the Bucs offense looking so terrible this week, I'm hesitant to keep Antonio Bryant in my starting lineup, so I'm thinking about going with a 3rd RB in my WR/RB flex spot, I'm gonna hold on to J. Stewart, should I drop Leon Washington and grab Bradshaw? I'm a huge Giants fan, so my gut says grab Bradshaw, but I'm looking for an unbiased opinion.
So I just took a look at the FA wire, and Roy Williams is also available. As of now, I have R. White and D. Driver locked in as my WR's, I took a gamble with B. Edwards and A. Bryant, but their teams just suck so bad they really can't produce. I like my Williams/McGahee RB combo, so with my flex position, should I go with Williams (WR), or stick it our with either Bradshaw/Washington/Stewart?
You should always plan for the RB/WR flex spot to be a RB, and draft that way.
Don't drop Stewart (although he's clearly a #2, he's good insurance for Williams). But, you could drop either Bryant or Edwards for Bradshaw - no need to keep them around, and Leon Washington is more valuable than either.
Mustang
09-29-2009, 09:19 AM
This week, Turner and Williams are on byes so, gotta pick 2 from this crop
Portis
Addai
McGahee
L. Johnson
flere-imsaho
09-29-2009, 09:30 AM
Not even looking at the matchups I'd go Addai and McGahee as both Portis and Johnson look like they're done. I'm very seriously considering dropping Johnson to the WW in one of my leagues this week and in another league Portis might not be far behind.
Ronnie Dobbs2
09-29-2009, 09:35 AM
Dunno, I'd still start Portis over Addai.
dervack
09-30-2009, 05:21 PM
Eli Manning vs KC or Brees vs Jets?
flere-imsaho
10-01-2009, 09:20 AM
I think you have to keep starting Brees.
Honolulu_Blue
10-01-2009, 09:27 AM
I got very good advice last time around, so... who do I start this week:
Steve Slaton vs. Oakland
or
Pierre Thomas vs. Jets
albionmoonlight
10-01-2009, 09:33 AM
H_B, I'd go with Thomas. Bell's injury takes more than one week to come back from, and the Saints have shown that Bush is not going to get a lot of carries. So Thomas is the man this week, and the Saints have put up good numbers from that spot (be it Thomas or Bell) all three weeks so far.
Honolulu_Blue
10-01-2009, 09:37 AM
H_B, I'd go with Thomas. Bell's injury takes more than one week to come back from, and the Saints have shown that Bush is not going to get a lot of carries. So Thomas is the man this week, and the Saints have put up good numbers from that spot (be it Thomas or Bell) all three weeks so far.
Thanks, albion! That's what I was thinking. Slaton has been a big disappointment thus far, I just worry about the matchups. The Jets defense has been killer all year and Oakland, well, not so much...
Ronnie Dobbs2
10-01-2009, 09:39 AM
The Pats had success running on the Jets, when they actually chose to do so.
Honolulu_Blue
10-01-2009, 09:43 AM
Ok, let me expand this a bit then:
I can start 3 out 4:
Ronnie Brown vs. Buf
Brandon Jacobs vs. KC
Slaton vs. Oak
Thomas vs. Jets
(I don't know how I ended up with all of these guys (and Adrian Peterson). I am in a leauge with weird people.)
Ronnie Dobbs2
10-01-2009, 01:01 PM
Jacobs for sure. Brown is next, then Thomas I'd say.
Flacco @NE or Roethlisberger vs. SD? I've been starting Flacco every week and very happy with his production, but the SD secondary is tempting.
stevew
10-01-2009, 01:09 PM
I'm 1-2 and not very happy
Flacco or Romo
Slaton, Thomas Jones, Bensen, Fred Jackson, or Tashard Choice(pick 3)
WR Pierre Garcon or waiver pickup?
Is Fred Jackson going to still be viable here in a few weeks?
cschex
10-01-2009, 01:17 PM
I have an interesting matchup this week as I have both Flacco and Brady. Been starting Brady, but am tempted to start Flacco because of the matchup. Opinions?
Ronnie Dobbs2
10-01-2009, 01:18 PM
I would start Flacco over Brady until Brady starts looking like Brady. The NE DEF (and secondary) has been playing better this year, but until Brady shows me he's got his timing back I'd ride Flacco.
Samdari
10-01-2009, 01:28 PM
Ok, let me expand this a bit then:
I can start 3 out 4:
Ronnie Brown vs. Buf
Brandon Jacobs vs. KC
Slaton vs. Oak
Thomas vs. Jets
(I don't know how I ended up with all of these guys (and Adrian Peterson). I am in a leauge with weird people.)
I seriously don't know how the RB thing is a difficult decision. Slaton is a NFL third down back, not a starting RB. Not the right guy for a full time load, not currently getting the GL carries, etc. He is a poor man's Reggie Bush - and will have stats to match - think Kevin Faulk. Don't think about starting him, think about trading him. He should be considered a #4 fantasy RB, the guy you play when all your other RBs have byes or are injured, not someone you play when you have other options.
Honolulu_Blue
10-01-2009, 01:47 PM
I seriously don't know how the RB thing is a difficult decision. Slaton is a NFL third down back, not a starting RB. Not the right guy for a full time load, not currently getting the GL carries, etc. He is a poor man's Reggie Bush - and will have stats to match - think Kevin Faulk. Don't think about starting him, think about trading him. He should be considered a #4 fantasy RB, the guy you play when all your other RBs have byes or are injured, not someone you play when you have other options.
I haven't really had the chance to watch too many Houston Texans games either last year or this year, so I'll take your word for it, but, despite his struggles this year, I kind of find it hard to believe that Slaton is just a NFL third down back (in the Kevin Faulk/Reggie Bush mode) based on these 2008 numbers:
Attempts 268
Yards: 1,282
TDs: 9
Here are those same stats for Kevin Faulk based on his best year with regards to attempts and yards (2003):
Attempts 178
Yards: 638
TDs: 0
Here are those same stats for Reggie Bush based on his best year with regards to attempts and yards (2007):
Attempts 157
Yards: 581
TDs: 4
So, uh, yeah, upon further reflection maybe the comparison is quite as obvious as you think it is.
It's certainly possible that last year is a complete statistical anomaly for Slaton and that over the course of his career - starting as early as now - he will really only be a third down back like Faulk and Bush.
Samdari
10-01-2009, 02:19 PM
It's certainly possible that last year is a complete statistical anomaly for Slaton and that over the course of his career - starting as early as now - he will really only be a third down back like Faulk and Bush.
Well, I was speaking physically - in terms of stature, physiqe, and skill set, he is more similar to Bush and Faulk than he is to other NFL every down backs. I just have never seen him lasting very long as a #1 NFL back. I certainly was not trying to compare him to those guys statistically, I know he had a very good year last year. I just have never believed he would ever come close to that again, and obviously still do not.
PackerFanatic
10-02-2009, 08:39 AM
Trade Question:
I get WR Jerricho Cotchery. I give up RB Steve Slaton.
I am in need of a decent WR (I have T.O., Nate Burelson, Johnny Knox, and Lee Evans - I had Anthony Gonzalez, but obviously that didn't work out) I have decent RBs (MJD, Slaton, Portis, McFadden), so I think giving one up to get SOMEONE that catches the damn ball isn't a bad idea. Thoughts?
flere-imsaho
10-02-2009, 09:59 AM
I'd probably do that. If it is a PPR league I'd definitely do it.
PackerFanatic
10-02-2009, 10:19 AM
It is - one full point too. I took the deal. Slaton will likely come around, but I like my other backs enough to give him up for a solid WR that is clearly the favorite target of his young QB.
Qwikshot
10-02-2009, 10:47 AM
Schaub (HOU)
A Johnson (HOU)
G Jennings (GB)
C. Johnson (TEN)
This much I know, but now, who do I start:
Ray Rice vs NE?
Glen Coffee vs STL?
McFadden vs HOU?
P Harvin vs GB?
I have to start another running back, and I have a flex spot. This isn't a PPR league, Harvin is promising (A TD per week), but I'll miss the additional yardage. Coffee and McFadden should get much of the touches, but Oakland is Oakland. Ray Rice is a superflex. My league really devalues the running/catching runningback, I may overvalue, but I'd rather have a guy catch for 50 and run for 50 (10 points) - which is why I hesistate with Coffee (but it is against St. Louis).
Such is my dilemma, right now, I'm thinking Rice and Coffee.
flere-imsaho
10-02-2009, 10:51 AM
I'd say Coffee is a given because St. Louis have been horrific.
The other three are toss-ups, I think.
henry296
10-02-2009, 05:41 PM
Here is fun one. Kurt Warner on a bye and I draft Bulger as a backup and he is out... so I need somebody from the scrap heap:
Derek Anderson vs. Cin
Seneca Wallace vs. Ind
Stafford vs. Chi
Josh Johnson vs. Was
Kyle Boller vs. SF
Chad Henne vs. Buf
You should always plan for the RB/WR flex spot to be a RB, and draft that way.
Don't drop Stewart (although he's clearly a #2, he's good insurance for Williams). But, you could drop either Bryant or Edwards for Bradshaw - no need to keep them around, and Leon Washington is more valuable than either.
Gonna drop Bryant, grab Brashaw and we'll see what happens.
Bit of a dilemma here, do I start Brees against the Jets, or Palmer against the Browns? I'm leaning towards Palmer, but I just can't seem to pull the trigger and put Brees on the bench.
EDIT: Scratch that, apparently Bradshaw has already been claimed. T. Choice is out there, I'm assuming he should be seeing a good amount of action with Jones out for a bit and Barber a bit iffy?
mrsimperless
10-03-2009, 08:23 AM
I have a conundrum this week.
Should I start Percy Harvin or Steve Smith (NYG)?
flere-imsaho
10-03-2009, 10:08 AM
Here is fun one. Kurt Warner on a bye and I draft Bulger as a backup and he is out... so I need somebody from the scrap heap:
Derek Anderson vs. Cin
Seneca Wallace vs. Ind
Stafford vs. Chi
Josh Johnson vs. Was
Kyle Boller vs. SF
Chad Henne vs. Buf
Either Anderson or Wallace, I think. Wallace is probably the safer choice - he actually looked pretty good against the Bears, and they're defense has to be better than Indy's. But you could also roll the dice with Anderson. Maybe last week was an aberration and this week he airs it out to Edwards in order to keep up with Palmer.
Bit of a dilemma here, do I start Brees against the Jets, or Palmer against the Browns? I'm leaning towards Palmer, but I just can't seem to pull the trigger and put Brees on the bench.
I don't think you can bench Brees.
Should I start Percy Harvin or Steve Smith (NYG)?
Harvin until he slows down, plus I have this feeling that the Giants are just going to pound away at KC.
mrsimperless
10-03-2009, 12:07 PM
Either Anderson or Wallace, I think. Wallace is probably the safer choice - he actually looked pretty good against the Bears, and they're defense has to be better than Indy's. But you could also roll the dice with Anderson. Maybe last week was an aberration and this week he airs it out to Edwards in order to keep up with Palmer.
I actually don't think I would start Wallace here. Indy was solid against the pass last year and is currently ranked #10 in pass yards allowed right now. But they've only allowed 1 passing TD so far this year, tied for #2. Add that up with an inexperienced QB and the only thing Seneca has going for him is that Freeney is out.
mrsimperless
10-03-2009, 12:13 PM
Harvin until he slows down, plus I have this feeling that the Giants are just going to pound away at KC.
I agree with this and that was my initial thought as well. However, I have a flex spot which I currently have McFadden in. I could always bench either McFadden or Ryan Grant (leaning towards Grant) and then put Smith in the flex... The only thing that worries me is that Hakeem Nicks should be back this week potentially taking some of Smith's targets away.
stevew
10-03-2009, 01:06 PM
Here is fun one. Kurt Warner on a bye and I draft Bulger as a backup and he is out... so I need somebody from the scrap heap:
Derek Anderson vs. Cin
Seneca Wallace vs. Ind
Stafford vs. Chi
Josh Johnson vs. Was
Kyle Boller vs. SF
Chad Henne vs. Buf
Anderson I think. Maybe Stafford though. It's a scrap heap, that's for certain.
Totally screwed this week. 5 of my typical starters are on bye weeks or injured, and one of my immediate backups is out too. Decided to go with the gut and start Palmer against the Browns, rather than Brees against the Jets....hope I don't regret that one.
Karlifornia
10-04-2009, 02:14 AM
Add me to the list of people starting Palmer against the Browns...instead of Brady vs the Ravens.
Two questions and probably second-guessing myself with both of them...
M. Schuab vs. OAK or
C. Palmer @ CLE
S. Slaton vs. OAK or
A. Bradshaw @ KC
Normal scoring with no-ppr and huge bonuses for long TD plays.
k0ruptr
10-04-2009, 05:21 AM
I'd go with Palmer for the match up, and then the other one is a bit harder, but I think I'd start Slaton.
mrsimperless
10-04-2009, 04:42 PM
So Sims-Walker and Steve Smith (NYG) were both on my bench this week and both had 2 TDs... I may just lose because of this.
k0ruptr
10-04-2009, 08:20 PM
I was really dumb and went with Jason Campbell instead of Garrard because of the matchup...
k0ruptr
10-04-2009, 08:21 PM
BTW it looks like Steve Smith (NYG) is becoming a must start every week, I wanted to see what happened when Hakeem Nicks came back, but Smith just got better with nicks back.
Sims-Walker might also become a must start every week if Garrard is finding his rhythm now.
henry296
10-04-2009, 09:29 PM
Anderson I think. Maybe Stafford though. It's a scrap heap, that's for certain.
Went with Anderson. So far 5th highest points for a QB although Big Ben should pass him soon. Wallace wasn't a bad choice with about 3 less points.
k0ruptr
10-04-2009, 10:09 PM
I'd go with Palmer for the match up, and then the other one is a bit harder, but I think I'd start Slaton.
Hoped you listened to me, because I think I got it quite right.
Hoped you listened to me, because I think I got it quite right.
Well, I didn't listen and it's going to cost me. I played Schuab over Palmer. Tied up going into tonight. I have Jermichael Finley going and they have Sidney Rice going. It's not looking good. Thanks for the help though.
Qwikshot
10-05-2009, 10:42 AM
Any help would be appreciated. I need 8 points to win (a TD and twenty yards).
I have Percy Harvin and Greg Jennings available, but I can only start one...
Harvin has scored 11 points since week 1; Jennings has a wrist injury but scored 10 points last week (after a zero the prior week).
This game is emotional, I'm sure that GB will want to take Farve to task; but it is a home game for the Vikings.
Am I overthinking? Do I stick with Jennings? (Harvin's Kick Returns/Punt Retun TDs would count if it would occur)?
I need this win...please help
Thx
stevew
10-05-2009, 02:37 PM
Okay-
Just so I don't go insane. To a man, everyone in here would have played Thomas Jones over Mendenhall, right? I'm kicking myself for not playing Rashard, but I don't think you really could expect even 10 points from him, let alone the 28 or so he scored in my league.
At least Slaton finally had a good game.
Ronnie Dobbs2
10-05-2009, 02:39 PM
Qwik, I'd start Jennings.
steve, I would have done TJ over Mendenhall. I thought Moore would get more (npi) of the action than a just-benched Mendenhall.
RomaGoth
10-05-2009, 02:41 PM
Okay-
Just so I don't go insane. To a man, everyone in here would have played Thomas Jones over Mendenhall, right? I'm kicking myself for not playing Rashard, but I don't think you really could expect even 10 points from him, let alone the 28 or so he scored in my league.
At least Slaton finally had a good game.
Well, I picked him up before the game but didn't start him. :banghead:
albionmoonlight
10-05-2009, 02:52 PM
stevew--I would have made the same call as you.
flere-imsaho
10-05-2009, 03:00 PM
To a man, everyone in here would have played Thomas Jones over Mendenhall, right?
Yep. Until yesterday the Steelers had shown nothing but problems trying to rush, and Mendenhall had shown nothing, not even to mention being benched the week before. His performance was completely unexpected.
Scoobz0202
10-05-2009, 03:27 PM
Matt Schaub or Kurt Warner next week? (Play each other)
Brian Westbrook (vs. TB) or Willis McGahee (vs. CIN)
flere-imsaho
10-05-2009, 03:36 PM
Schaub slightly over Warner, slightly more if your league doesn't discount interceptions all that much. But I think that's a tossup.
Westbrook over McGahee. TB has, I believe, the worst, or close to the worst run D in the league and just allowed Portis (who's done zilch all year) to rush for almost 100 yards on them.
k0ruptr
10-05-2009, 04:23 PM
I'd ride McGahee until he shows us not to. He's scored in 6 straight.
But maybe wait to see how Westbrook is practicing this week.
stevew
10-05-2009, 04:33 PM
Tonight I'm Jennings/Packers D and I'm up by 11. He has Harvin, Grant, Longwell.
I hate MNF.
I've actually considered starting a league/lobbying for in the present one, exclusion of MNF from our fantasy league. And possibly even SNF. I'd really like to know if I won or lost by 8pm sunday night.
henry296
10-05-2009, 07:46 PM
I mentioned this in the NFL thread, but I have a 48 point lead and own the tiebreaker vs. Rodgers, AP, Jennings and Harvin. Let's hope for a 10-7 game.
k0ruptr
10-05-2009, 08:11 PM
Well, I didn't listen and it's going to cost me. I played Schuab over Palmer. Tied up going into tonight. I have Jermichael Finley going and they have Sidney Rice going. It's not looking good. Thanks for the help though.
Finley with the 60 + Yard Touchdown!! hahaha I think you got it!
henry296
10-05-2009, 10:50 PM
Vikes recover on the onside kick and I'll hold on.
DataKing
10-06-2009, 09:38 AM
The last sack by Jared Allen gave me a draw for the week, despite my opponent having the 49ers defense. Needless to say, he's pissed. :D
MikeVic
10-08-2009, 10:49 AM
I've been offered Steven Jackson and John Carlson for Rashard Mendenhall and my 2nd round pick next year. I have Chris Johnson, Pierre Thomas, and Tim Hightower as my other RBs. But my TEs are Greg Olsen and Marcades Lewis. This doesn't seem very tempting, but what do you think?
Neuqua
10-08-2009, 11:03 AM
.5 PPR, all TDs worth 6 pts
My WRs:
Megatron
TO
Holt
Breaston
A. Gonzalez
My RBs:
S. Jackson
Grant
Portis
Jones
Ward
I was just offered RB Fred Jackson in exchange for WR Terrell Owens, is it time to give up on Owens yet? And now that Lynch is back, is that going to reduce most of Jackson's value? I've liked Jackson so far this year, but does Buffalo feel the same?
Oh, as for who should I start:
Matt Ryan @ SF
Carson Palmer @ Bal
DataKing
10-08-2009, 11:15 AM
I've been offered Steven Jackson and John Carlson for Rashard Mendenhall and my 2nd round pick next year. I have Chris Johnson, Pierre Thomas, and Tim Hightower as my other RBs. But my TEs are Greg Olsen and Marcades Lewis. This doesn't seem very tempting, but what do you think?
Not even a little bit. Carlson hasn't done anything since week 1, and Steven Jackson has yet to find the end zone. He's going to be facing 8-in-the-box all year. Sounds to me like someone is fishing. Don't bite.
sooner333
10-08-2009, 11:21 AM
The last sack by Jared Allen gave me a draw for the week, despite my opponent having the 49ers defense. Needless to say, he's pissed. :D
Welcome to the opposite of my world. I was going into the game with a comfortable lead and he had Jennings, Allen, and Winfield. Anyway, I end up losing because of Allen and Winfield (tackles are a premium in our league too). And I had Patrick Willis and the Dolphins defense.
DataKing
10-08-2009, 11:37 AM
I was just offered RB Fred Jackson in exchange for WR Terrell Owens, is it time to give up on Owens yet? And now that Lynch is back, is that going to reduce most of Jackson's value? I've liked Jackson so far this year, but does Buffalo feel the same?
Oh, as for who should I start:
Matt Ryan @ SF
Carson Palmer @ Bal
I just can't see the Jackson/TO deal working out in your favor. I'm not a Bills insider, but I just can't see Jackson remaining the main guy in the Bills backfield now that Lynch is back. And sure TO is off to a slow start, but we're still talking about a guy with double-digit touchdowns three years running. I'd stick with TO.
As for Ryan or Palmer this week...flip a coin. Neither is a very good matchup, and I can't see one having much of an advantage over the other.
My turn. I've got two potential decisions to make this week.
#1. WR3: Sidney Rice vs. STL or Chris Cooley vs. CAR? I'm thinking Rice. He's been on a nice run lately and I was actually able to pick him up in waivers this week. I've been using Cooley as my #3 mostly as of late since Anthony Gonzalez went down week 1.
#2. QB: David Garrard vs. SEA or Kerry Collins vs. IND? I only need to make this decision if Coughlin sits Eli this week. Garrard seems like the smart play, but maybe the Titans have to chuck the ball a lot once they fall behind to the Colts (my league doesn't penalize for INTs)? Or am I falling down the "situational" rabbit hole?
flere-imsaho
10-08-2009, 12:21 PM
I've been offered Steven Jackson and John Carlson for Rashard Mendenhall and my 2nd round pick next year. I have Chris Johnson, Pierre Thomas, and Tim Hightower as my other RBs. But my TEs are Greg Olsen and Marcades Lewis. This doesn't seem very tempting, but what do you think?
Not tempting at all, especially if this is a dynasty league.
sooner333
10-09-2009, 10:23 AM
I have Jacobs, Gore, Choice, Coffee, and Chester Taylor at RB. I have two start two. Obviously Gore is out. Would you start Choice v. Kansas City (with the possibility of Barber coming in and stealing TD's like last week) or Coffee vs. Atlanta who will get all of the carries?
Also, I dropped A. Bryant last week because he was hurt and he's also on Tampa. We start three guys. I picked up Sidney Rice for this week, but that's a bit reactionary to last week. Would you considering making the switch back to Bryant for this week (we start 3 WR's, I have Cotchery, D Jackson, and V. Jackson (bye this week))?
Thomkal
10-09-2009, 10:45 AM
I actually have an interesting dilemna-two leagues where I have QB's who likely will have good games, so the question remains who will have the better ones? "Normal" scoring ESPN leagues.
In one league I have Big Ben going against Detroit, but I also have a bye-rested Kurt Warner in a likely offensive explosion against Houston. I have Big Ben as my starter right now, but its hard for me to not take my Cardinals whenever I can.
In the other league I have Joe Flacco who gets to feast on Cleveland starting right now, but I also have Matt Ryan coming off a bye playing in SF. Ryan and the Falcons coming off a shaky road trip to New England, so went with Flacco since Atlanta's playing on the road
So who would you start of these?
stevew
10-09-2009, 11:11 AM
My only concern with Flacco this week(who I'm playing instead of Romo) is that the Ravens will build a big lead and just pound the ball after the half. And he'll maybe get 200 yards and a TD.
claphamsa
10-09-2009, 01:15 PM
Eli Manning or McNabb.....
Celek or whatever the overdrafted TE in SFs name is....
Andre Johnson
Reggie Wayne
DeSean Jackson
Steve Smith (NYG)
Which three should I start?
PackerFanatic
10-09-2009, 03:05 PM
Andre, Reggie, and NYG Steve. I like DeSean - but you can't sit any of those other three the way they are playing.
PackerFanatic
10-09-2009, 03:06 PM
PS - that is a monster WR corp.
henry296
10-09-2009, 06:34 PM
Ravens play Bengals this week, not Browns.
Vince, Pt. II
10-09-2009, 06:42 PM
Last week, going into Sunday Night Football, I was ahead by 50 points - I had Sproles left, he had Rivers and Gates. By the end of the game, I was down by 1 point...then Rivers fumbled. The other guy gets -2 points for the fumble, putting me back ahead by 1 point. I wake up Monday morning to find out that the points for the New York Giants Defense were adjusted up by 2 points...and I lost by 1 point.
Now that I'm done whining about that...what do I do this week? Here's what I have:
Brian Westbrook vs. Tampa Bay
Ronnie Brown vs. New York Jets
Steve Slaton @ Arizona
Glen Coffee vs. Atlanta
I currently have Westbrook and Brown in there, but Atlanta is horrid against the run and SF will be giving Coffee the ball a lot. Also, if Slaton has finally figured it out, he could be a good play against the Cards...and I don't like Ronnie Brown much this week.
k0ruptr
10-09-2009, 07:39 PM
Coffee for sure. I wouldn't start Slaton (The Arizona run defense is unreal at home) I'd probably still stay away from westbrook until we know for sure for sure hes good and McCoy won't steal 50% of the carries. If Westbrook can get 70% of the carries I'd start him though.
Brown against the Jets reinvigorated run D is tough though. I guess its between Brown at home against a good run D, and Slaton on the road against a good run D.
Coffee and Brown.
Vince, Pt. II
10-09-2009, 08:50 PM
See, I think even a marginal Westbrook is a must play against TB...they're terrible. Especially after a bye. And Coffee...being a Niner fan, last week I had to watch him run it straight into the line EVERY TIME. It's like he was too worried that he'd screw it up for him to try to bounce it outside, even if there was absolutely no room up the middle and a gaping hole to the outside.
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