2009 FOFC Fantasy Hockey Draft Thread

[samifan24]

Let's discuss league rules and a draft schedule here.

1) Draft results are also on the Yahoo site: Sign in to Yahoo! (http://hockey.fantasysports.yahoo.com/hockey/171514/draftresults)
2) Please keep a spreadsheet of your roster because Yahoo will not allow me to update the rosters screen in the league until the draft is complete. However you will note that the available player pool is correct.


Our 12 players are:

2009 FOFC Fantasy Hockey League Draft Order (snake draft)

1 - Travis
2 - Chief Rum
3 - boberot
4 - Fidatelo
5 - samifan24
6 - TurnerONU22
7 - bhlloy
8 - DeToxRox
9 - RomaGoth
10 - bbor
11 - Honolulu_Blue
12 - Suburban Rhythm

I believe last year we used the following rosters (although I cannot access last year's league on Yahoo to confirm)

C / C
LW / LW
RW / RW
FW
D / D / D / D
G / G
Bench / Bench / Bench / Bench

[Fidatelo]

Oh wow, right down to R/C/L... that's an interesting wrinkle I've never contended with. I assume the Yahoo site will be what we use as the gospel as to which position a forward plays? I know my other pools have had issues even with just F/D when guys like Fedorov or Byfuglien move around.

[samifan24]

Oh wow, right down to R/C/L... that's an interesting wrinkle I've never contended with. I assume the Yahoo site will be what we use as the gospel as to which position a forward plays? I know my other pools have had issues even with just F/D when guys like Fedorov or Byfuglien move around.

I think it makes things more difficult and allows for more strategy on the part of a team owner. I think we should follow Yahoo's player pool with regards to listed positions but I'm open to a group vote if that's what the majority wants.

[RomaGoth]

I usually play according to what the player's primary position is. Usually this coincides with Yahoo for example, but in a case like Fedorov I am not sure. I prefer to just keep it as simple as possible.

On a side note, I am out of town on business tomorrow and Wednesday, so not entirely sure I will have access to this site and/or my email or not. What are the plans for a league, a draft, etc..?

[Travis]

That's one thing I like about doing the draft through yahoo (and I'm assuming ESPN is the same). Just use their player position designations and go from there. The more automated it is, the better imho.

[Maple Leafs]

I can't believe nobody has taken Ovechkin yet.

Sorry, just always wanted to do that in a draft thread.

[samifan24]

Another question is how will we determine the draft order?

[Fidatelo]

There are sites that let you set up a group of emails, hit a button, and then it sends out emails to everyone simultaneously with the order it generates. I'll see if I can dig up a link.

[Fidatelo]

Dola

hxxp://www.fftoolbox.com/draft_order_generator.cfm

[samifan24]

Dola

hxxp://www.fftoolbox.com/draft_order_generator.cfm

Looks good. Let's put it to a vote. Anyone in favor of using the draft order generator to create the draft order, speak up.

[Travis]

Assuming we're doing an offline draft, I'm good with it.

[DeToxRox]

Count me in.

[TurnerONU22]

Sounds good.

[bhlloy]

fine by me

[samifan24]

Ok that's 7 of 12 that are ok with letting that site determine a random draft order. Please PM me your email addresses and I will input them on that site and we will all receive an email with the results.

[Suburban Rhythm]

I'm fine with everything so far.

As far as positions, I believe it's something like 4 games or 8 games a player must have in a position to be eligible there. So for example, Byfuglien would be at RW until he had 8 games at D. Now, not really sure how a "game" is determined...is it one shift?

Only other issue I'd have, I no longer have FOFC access at work.
But I am fine leaving my work email, and if somone can fwd me the picks since my last selection, I can send it to them.

[samifan24]

I've received email addresses from six of the twelve owners in the league. Please pass word along to the others. We can start the draft thread as soon as the order has been determined. I will also create the league and set it to an offline draft in which I input the draft results. Have we agreed on Yahoo then?

[Chief Rum]

I am fine with Yahoo.

[boberot]

Yahoo works.

I've never done an offline draft, but certainly willing to give it a shot.

[claphamsa]

you need more spots! so I an dominate you all!

[Travis]

Count me in for yahoo.

[Chief Rum]

Bumpity-bumpity-bump

[boberot]

I don't know how long these offline drafts take, but amazingly it's just two weeks til the puck drops on the season.

[Fidatelo]

Ya we need to get this shit started if this is going to happen.

[Chief Rum]

Hopefully sami comes around soon and runs the randomizer, and we can start picking at least. If we need to make little changes (what site we use, rules changes, etc.), we can quibble over that as we go along.

[Fidatelo]

How do we score points in this league? Here is what I've always used:

1 pt for a goal
1 pt for an assist

2 pts for a win (goalie)
1 pt for a shutout (goalie) {this means that a shutout win = 3pts}

I've always found that simpler = better (not a huge fan of PIMs, GAA, etc) but I'm up for whatever.

[boberot]

How do we score points in this league? Here is what I've always used:

1 pt for a goal
1 pt for an assist

2 pts for a win (goalie)
1 pt for a shutout (goalie) {this means that a shutout win = 3pts}

I've always found that simpler = better (not a huge fan of PIMs, GAA, etc) but I'm up for whatever.

Last year it was:

Forwards/Defensemen Stat Categories: Goals (G), Assists (A), Plus/Minus (+/-), Penalty Minutes (PIM), Powerplay Points (PPP), Shorthanded Points (SHP), Shots on Goal (SOG)

Goaltenders Stat Categories: Wins (W), Goals Against Average (GAA), Save Percentage (SV%), Shutouts (SHO)

[Fidatelo]

Holy shit

[Fidatelo]

Dola

I think I might be in over my head. I'd need to create an Excel sheet with calculations and then import all of last seasons stats in order to properly just rate players in order, never mind the positional aspect.

Wow.

[boberot]

Yahoo does a pretty decent job of ranking guys based on this point structure. Obviously you have your own opinions about players, but it gives you a pretty good framework to start from.

What I like about this format is that it rewards the solid two-way players on good teams [+/-] as well as the guys who have some skills but also do a little enforcing [PIM].

[samifan24]

I am still waiting to hear from two players: RomaGoth and Fidatelo. I am PMing both. If they're still in, I will run the randomizer as soon as I hear from them. If not, we will drop down to a 10 team league.

We should use the default Yahoo scoring categories listed above for scoring. I will create a league with an offline draft and invite everyone once we get going.

[Suburban Rhythm]

To further complicate matters...haha

I am out of town this weekend, back some time Monday night.

If we are going to start by then, someone (again, if williing to keep me in the loop) can send me texts. I am assuming I'll have coverage. We are taking the kids to Niagara Falls. Maybe being in Canada will inspire me, eh? When in doubt, I'll hit the local Tim Hortons and get advice on who to take.

[Fidatelo]

I had sent my email yesterday, not sure why it never went through. Anyways, it's been sent again.

I forgot I'm also out of town on sat/sun. Unlike Suburban Rhythm, I won't be reachable in any way. Maybe I could just give someone a list and they could choose the next available guy on the list for all of my picks until I get back?

[samifan24]

I had sent my email yesterday, not sure why it never went through. Anyways, it's been sent again.

I forgot I'm also out of town on sat/sun. Unlike Suburban Rhythm, I won't be reachable in any way. Maybe I could just give someone a list and they could choose the next available guy on the list for all of my picks until I get back?

I have not received a PM from you at all. Please re-send.

[Fidatelo]

What the deuce? Ok, I'll try PM one more time. Maybe the mods have cut off my ability to PM without telling me, like the 'ghost' thing they used to punish people with for kicks.

If this next one doesn't go through, just put in a fake email address or something and I'll trust you guys to tell me where I fall in the order.

[Fidatelo]

Ok PM sent.

[samifan24]

Ok PM sent.

Nothing. How about you just post your email here with a spoiler tag and then delete it after I grab it. Something like "Fidatelo" @ NOT coldmail.com to avoid spam bots.

[Fidatelo]

ok I've created an email account specifically for this draft!

fidatelo @ kmail.com

(k = g)

[samifan24]

Ok I'm giving RomaGoth till 7 PM tonight. I'm going to post for a new owner in the NHL thread, too. We need to start this draft ASAP. For those that are going out of town, please submit a list (or a length of your choosing). We will allow 12 hours per pick and automated picks will happen immediately. If all players on your list have been picked you will be given the highest ranked player on the Yahoo default rankings. Sound good?

[samifan24]

RomaGoth is in. Draft email coming shortly.

2009 FOFC Fantasy Hockey League Draft Order (snake draft)

1 - Travis
2 - Chief Rum
3 - boberot
4 - Fidatelo
5 - samifan24
6 - TurnerONU22
7 - bhlloy
8 - DeToxRox
9 - RomaGoth
10 - bbor
11 - Honolulu_Blue
12 - Suburban Rhythm

[samifan24]

copied directly from SI's FOFC Hardcore Baseball League thread

There are 6 hour time limits between the hours of 7am EDT and 10pm EDT on weekdays. Hopefully we don't have to enforce this but we almost always have to a couple of times during the draft.

If you had more than an hour the previous night (the previous pick was made at 9pm), you get 1 hour in the morning (until 9am) to make your pick. If you had less than an hour, you have 2 hours in the morning (until 10am). We have to keep this moving and we need everyone checking every night and every morning if it's near their turn.

On weekends, we'll just go with a standard 6 hours with no morning/evening provision but let's try to keep things moving.

If there are problems in that you know your pick is coming up but you won't be online, submit a list either to myself or to a proxy drafter for you. Otherwise, you will get the next player on Yahoo's list. Maybe pick someone who is on the opposite end of the draft from you so that you likely won't be grabbing from the same pool of players anyways.

If you miss more than 2 picks in the draft (i.e. time limit expired so a Yahoo rankings pick), particularly in the first 10 rounds, then you can be replaced as manager.

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I think we're ready to go. I created the Yahoo league this morning and you should've all received an email with a link to join. I imported last year's scoring and roster settings as well.

When we draft, please write your pick as the following:

1.1 RW Alex Ovechkin - WSH

Please verify that the player you selected is eligible at that position in the Yahoo game (Byfuglien, for example). Hopefully we can get through a few rounds quickly before the weekend.

[Fidatelo]

Sounds good. Can someone explain to me how the scoring works for all those categories that we are tracking? Is it like 10PIMs = 1 pt or something? I'll need that info to properly define some sort of list.

[Fidatelo]

Dola

4th overall, good grief. That's about the worst slot I could have imagined. Top 3 is easy, but I was dreading 4. Ugh...

[Fidatelo]

Double Dola

Just read about the Yahoo link which has the scoring, please ignore my post 2 up.

[Fidatelo]

Triple Dola

Ok even after reviewing the Yahoo site I can't figure out how the scoring works. I need a "complicated hockey drafts for dummies" book.

[Travis]

Fid, it's totals like head to head baseball. Whichever team ends up with more goals in a week from all their starting players wins that category. The "score" of the game between the two teams is the final category leader count.

So if your team wins G, +/-, PPP, SoG, W and Shutouts but loses the rest of the categories (GAA and Sv% are averaged out stats between your goalies time played so they're the only non cumulative stats) you'd go 6-5 that week (ties will happen as well).

Hope that helps and if I'm butchering this, somebody please correct/clarify me please.

[Travis]

Assuming we can begin (and if I'm wrong here again, please let me know), I'll go with:

1.1 LW Alex Ovechkin - WSH

[Fidatelo]

So is this head-to-head each week against one other team in the league? I'm so confused. I think I'll just take Colin White at #4.

[Honolulu_Blue]

So is this head-to-head each week against one other team in the league?

Yes.

[Fidatelo]

Hmm interesting. Is there a games played limit or something? Or does the guy who manages to start the most players in a week simply have an advantage? What if my goalies are on teams that only play 1 or 2 games in a week when my opponents goalies are playing 3 or even 4?

[boberot]

Hmm interesting. Is there a games played limit or something? Or does the guy who manages to start the most players in a week simply have an advantage? What if my goalies are on teams that only play 1 or 2 games in a week when my opponents goalies are playing 3 or even 4?

I think it all tends to come out in the wash, over the course of the season.

As far as the goalie example, shutouts are pretty rare, and GAA and SV% are obviously not dependent on # of starts, so we're really only talking about wins.

Just my 2 cents.

[Travis]

Hmm interesting. Is there a games played limit or something? Or does the guy who manages to start the most players in a week simply have an advantage? What if my goalies are on teams that only play 1 or 2 games in a week when my opponents goalies are playing 3 or even 4?

You set your lineup Sunday for the game week which runs Monday-Sunday. So once the lineups lock Sunday night/Monday morning (not sure exactly what time it's at) then any changes you make don't take effect until the following game week.

So part of the strategy is getting players in there that have more games/easier opponents/etc, but injuries will also play into your decisions. No streaming means you don't have to be online every day to make roster adjustments and that sort of thing though waivers do take place during the week so that part still requires attention. The biggest area to watch is usually with the goalies to make sure you hit the game minimum (I believe 3?) for the week as some of their stats (Sv% and GAA) are averages so you need to hit the minimum to qualify for those stat categories.

[RomaGoth]

When are we starting the draft?

[Fidatelo]

I think it already started

[Travis]

I put up what I'd like as the first pick but if that's not cool I can redo later on. Was kind of assuming with the order being sent out that it'd be okay to get going.

[RomaGoth]

I think it already started

I put up what I'd like as the first pick but if that's not cool I can redo later on. Was kind of assuming with the order being sent out that it'd be okay to get going.

Yeah I saw the Ovechkin pick, but nobody commented so not sure if that was the "official" start or not.

Is there any way to let the next person in the draft know that they are on the clock?

[Travis]

I didn't PM anybody in case I was being out of line making that pick. Once we get rolling though I'd assume that'll be the protocol.

[Fidatelo]

I would suggest that each person picking PM's the person that is after them when they are done, except that apparently my PM feature was taken away.

[DeToxRox]

Ovechkin #1. What a joke. My all KHL team is going to stomp you all.

[Travis]

Ovechkin #1. What a joke. My all KHL team is going to stomp you all.

I thought we were drafting for quality of unintentional comedy in commercial spots?

[Fidatelo]

This has been a bit of a rough start. Anyone seen Chief Rum? I believe he's up. Is he considered to be 'on the clock'?

[RomaGoth]

This has been a bit of a rough start. Anyone seen Chief Rum? I believe he's up. Is he considered to be 'on the clock'?

I was wondering the same thing.

[samifan24]

The draft is live now. Please PM the person behind you as a reminder that they're up.

[Travis]

Okay, so just to be official in case it's needed:

1.1 LW Alex Ovechkin - WSH

[boberot]

Anybody know whether or not I'll be able to PM Fidatelo totell him he's up?

[Fidatelo]

Anybody know whether or not I'll be able to PM Fidatelo totell him he's up?

Ya I seem to be able to receive 'em, it was the ones I sent out to Samifan that weren't going through. I'll also try to tell the person after me, see if maybe it's just something with me and Samifan.

[Fidatelo]

Dola

Lol, just checked who is after me in the order.... Samifan :)

Is this snake-style? If so, then I can try it with boberot on the way back up through round 2.

[boberot]

yup, snake-style.

[Chief Rum]

Sorry, guys, as of last night, nothing was yet going with this, and I work all day. I check in (obviously), but I don't always look in OT unless I have a need.

Thanks, Travis, for the PM.

My pick...

1.2 C Sidney Crosby--PIT

Hey, SR, expect to pay big for this one. ;)

[Chief Rum]

I PM'd Boberot.

[Travis]

And we're off!

Good luck all both for the draft and the season. Here's hoping we clip through the draft very quickly.

[boberot]

1.3 C Evgeni Malkin -- PIT

[RomaGoth]

Quick question:

It looks like this draft will take my pick into the night time hours. Is there a rule that suspends it until the morning or something? I mean, I have to go to bed at some point but don't want to miss my turn or something either. If the person before me makes his pick at, say, 11pm, and I already went to bed, do I get to pick in the morning (I don't get to work until 9am), or do I get stuck with an auto-pick?

Yeah, I have never done a live offline draft before. :)

[Travis]

Quick question:

It looks like this draft will take my pick into the night time hours. Is there a rule that suspends it until the morning or something? I mean, I have to go to bed at some point but don't want to miss my turn or something either. If the person before me makes his pick at, say, 11pm, and I already went to bed, do I get to pick in the morning (I don't get to work until 9am), or do I get stuck with an auto-pick?

Yeah, I have never done a live offline draft before. :)

There are 6 hour time limits between the hours of 7am EDT and 10pm EDT on weekdays. Hopefully we don't have to enforce this but we almost always have to a couple of times during the draft.

If you had more than an hour the previous night (the previous pick was made at 9pm), you get 1 hour in the morning (until 9am) to make your pick. If you had less than an hour, you have 2 hours in the morning (until 10am). We have to keep this moving and we need everyone checking every night and every morning if it's near their turn.

On weekends, we'll just go with a standard 6 hours with no morning/evening provision but let's try to keep things moving.

The clock stops at 10pm EDT, but if your pick time started at 9pm EDT or earlier, you only get an hour the following morning. If it becomes your pick after 9pm EDT (or during the night if people make picks during the non time limit portion of the day) you'd get 2 hours starting at 7am EDT.

So basically it's check in first and last thing each day just to be safe. Having been through a few of the baseball drafts every now and then there's a good run during the evening depending on the people involved so there may be a few mornings where you're surprised to find out you're up or close to it.

[Travis]

Dola, question for Samifan, are you updating the draft in yahoo as we go? Obviously not many guys taken yet so it's easy enough to keep track, but I'm assuming we'll either have list at the start of this thread with who's been taken or it'll be done semi real time on yahoo if not both?

If you need a hand with either/or, let me know. I'm usually pretty solid during the day for online access, evenings can be a bit more hit and miss though.

[Suburban Rhythm]

Sorry, guys, as of last night, nothing was yet going with this, and I work all day. I check in (obviously), but I don't always look in OT unless I have a need.

Thanks, Travis, for the PM.

My pick...

1.2 C Sidney Crosby--PIT

Hey, SR, expect to pay big for this one. ;)

1.3 C Evgeni Malkin -- PIT

This is terrible...I should have tanked typical Pittsburgh-style for the randomizer to get a top 3 pick!

[samifan24]

Dola, question for Samifan, are you updating the draft in yahoo as we go? Obviously not many guys taken yet so it's easy enough to keep track, but I'm assuming we'll either have list at the start of this thread with who's been taken or it'll be done semi real time on yahoo if not both?

If you need a hand with either/or, let me know. I'm usually pretty solid during the day for online access, evenings can be a bit more hit and miss though.

I intend to update the draft in Yahoo but I need all 12 owners to join the Yahoo league before I can get started. For now I am keeping a spreadsheet.

edit - I just checked and I'm glad I waited because I need to edit the draft order to reflect our draft order.

[Suburban Rhythm]

Dr Sak is going to pick for me while I am away this weekend.

I'll be able to make selections tonight, tomorrow after work (no work access).

Not sure what the world is coming to. Pens and Flyers fans working together in an NHL draft...dogs and cats getting married...my whole world is turned upside down.

[RomaGoth]

Dr Sak is going to pick for me while I am away this weekend.

I'll be able to make selections tonight, tomorrow after work (no work access).

Not sure what the world is coming to. Pens and Flyers fans working together in an NHL draft...dogs and cats getting married...my whole world is turned upside down.

What?

[Suburban Rhythm]

What?

I think that is logically the next step.

Black president

Pens-Flyers fans teaming together

Dogs and cats marry

Armeggedon

[Dr. Sak]

With SR's first pick he chooses...Kris Beech...cornerstone of the Jagr trade ;)

[Suburban Rhythm]

I was thinking powerforward...and thought of Dany Heatley

I was looking for a way to tank in the draft randomizer, but I didn't have Bettman on my side this time

[Fidatelo]

1.4 C Ryan Getzlaf -- ANA

[Fidatelo]

Dola

Sorry for the delay on that pick, bad timing as I was rushing to get out of work and get home to take care of my son solo-style until he went to bed.

About to try PM-ing Samifan, not sure if it will work though...

[bhlloy]

DAMN YOU... I knew he wouldn't last until #7, but still

[samifan24]

Boo I wanted Getzlaf...and I got Fidatelo's PM. Not sure why I didn't receive any others from him. Oh well.

[samifan24]

1.5 LW Zach Parise - NJ

[boberot]

Oh my. The pace [or lack thereof] is a bit concerning, no?

[TurnerONU22]

Sorry guys, I went to bed right before the last pick

1.6 G Tim Thomas - BOS

[Fidatelo]

I think it will pick up today, be slow again through the weekend, but then really start to move next week. Once we are all in the habit of checking, knowing when we'll be coming up soon, and having had some time to think out our picks in consideration of the rules, I suspect it will start to move along a bit better.

I hope :)

[samifan24]

1) Draft results are now included in the first post of this thread: http://operationsports.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=2117321&postcount=1
2) Draft results are also on the Yahoo site: Sign in to Yahoo! (http://hockey.fantasysports.yahoo.com/hockey/171514/draftresults)
3) Please note that your players won't show up on your roster until the 2nd round because each team needs at least one player to be considered active per Yahoo rules.

[bhlloy]

1.7 Corey Perry, RW ANA

sending PM to DeTox to let him know he's up

[Honolulu_Blue]

Ryan Getlaf and Corey Perry gone in the first seven picks. It must be a fire sale at The Jerk Store!

[bhlloy]

Haha... a nice jerk sized package of points, +/- and misconduct penalties. Way better than all those boring russians and swedes in Detroit :)

[Chief Rum]

Ryan Getlaf and Corey Perry gone in the first seven picks. It must be a fire sale at The Jerk Store!

Getzlaf ain't a jerk. Anymore than Yzerman was anyway.

No comment on Perry. :D

[RomaGoth]

Haha... a nice jerk sized package of points, +/- and misconduct penalties. Way better than all those boring russians and swedes in Detroit :)

Yeah, this is pretty boring...

YouTube - Johan Franzen spectacular goal [Lemieux'l-vision] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsbzsPKfu5g)

[bhlloy]

It was a joke, you really seem to have a chip on your shoulder when it comes to anything Red Wings related. Of course Franzen and Zetterberg aren't boring :banghead:

[RomaGoth]

It was a joke, you really seem to have a chip on your shoulder when it comes to anything Red Wings related. Of course Franzen and Zetterberg aren't boring :banghead:

Nah, I know you are goofing. It's all in good fun. I just like an excuse to watch Red Wing highlights while at work. :)

[bhlloy]

haha cool, you should have a shot at any Red Wings player you want at #9. Unfortunately there is no category for goaltender interference for Holmstrom, hall of fame defensemen carrying your ass for Osgood or team percentage of players in the handshake line :p

[Honolulu_Blue]

Getzlaf ain't a jerk. Anymore than Yzerman was anyway.

No comment on Perry. :D

Come on! He was such a jerk that Joe Thornton had to fight him in the playoffs. Steve Yzerman never incited that kind of reaction from gentle people like Joe Thornton. Getzlaf also just has the jerky frat boy look on him with that annoying smarmy grin.

[Chief Rum]

Come on! He was such a jerk that Joe Thornton had to fight him in the playoffs. Steve Yzerman never incited that kind of reaction from gentle people like Joe Thornton. Getzlaf also just has the jerky frat boy look on him with that annoying smarmy grin.

Bah! You're just demonizing him, so he's easier to hate. You know you would think he's an all right guy if he wasn't wearing a Ducks uniform. ;)

As for Big Joe, he asked Getzlaf "You wanna shot at the title?" a la Mel Gibosn in Lethal Weapon. What's Getzy supposed to do? :D

[RomaGoth]

Bah! You're just demonizing him, so he's easier to hate. You know you would think he's an all right guy if he wasn't wearing a Ducks uniform. ;)

As for Big Joe, he asked Getzlaf "You wanna shot at the title?" a la Mel Gibosn in Lethal Weapon. What's Getzy supposed to do? :D

I heard that Getzlaf asked Joe how his golf game is coming along.

[Chief Rum]

I heard that Getzlaf asked Joe how his golf game is coming along.

And Joe responded, "I got a tee time this Saturday, so let's finish this tonight."

[RomaGoth]

And Joe responded, "I got a tee time this Saturday, so let's finish this tonight."

I was gonna say the same thing. Now Big Joe can show Little Dany how to properly drive the ball towards the fairway. And they will have all summer to practice.

[samifan24]

I hope we can get a lot of picks done this weekend with most everyone that will be away from their computers leaving lists with other players.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Bah! You're just demonizing him, so he's easier to hate. You know you would think he's an all right guy if he wasn't wearing a Ducks uniform. ;)

As for Big Joe, he asked Getzlaf "You wanna shot at the title?" a la Mel Gibosn in Lethal Weapon. What's Getzy supposed to do? :D

Of course, I am trying to demonize him just a little. I think his association with Corey Perry doesn't help. The lines get blurred. He really is a force out there. He was terrifying whenever he was out there in playoffs last year.

[RomaGoth]

I hope we can get a lot of picks done this weekend with most everyone that will be away from their computers leaving lists with other players.

I am hoping the pace gets picked up a little. Almost an entire day now and we only have 7 picks done.

[Chief Rum]

I am hoping the pace gets picked up a little. Almost an entire day now and we only have 7 picks done.

Go kick your buddy DeTox awake then! :)

[Honolulu_Blue]

Go kick your buddy DeTox awake then! :)

We should draft for him. I'm sure he'll either want Kirk Maltby or his BFF Phil Kessel.

[RomaGoth]

Go kick your buddy DeTox awake then! :)

Not sure where he is. Maybe HB knows?

[RomaGoth]

We should draft for him. I'm sure he'll either want Kirk Maltby or his BFF Phil Kessel.

I think MapleLeafs wants Kessel...:D

Edit: hmmm, he isn't in the league. I guess Kessel is up for grabs then.

[DeToxRox]

1.8 - C Pavel Datsyuk, Detroit Red Wings

[Chief Rum]

Oh man, three Red Wings fans get to pick six times before it comes back to me. I'll never be able to get a Red Wing now.

[RomaGoth]

1.9 - C Henrik Zetterberg, Red Wings

[Fidatelo]

That was the shocker of all shockers! :)

[DeToxRox]

Oh man, three Red Wings fans get to pick six times before it comes back to me. I'll never be able to get a Red Wing now.

Bertuzzi FTW.

[RomaGoth]

Sent PM to Bbor right after my pick.

[Honolulu_Blue]

A little after lunch time on a Friday afternoon... He's probably in a Taco Bell induced coma at the moment.

[bbor]

A little after lunch time on a Friday afternoon... He's probably in a Taco Bell induced coma at the moment.

LOL


1.10 Jeff Carter Philly

[DeToxRox]

HB needs to stop following around Marian Hossa and pick.

[RomaGoth]

A little after lunch time on a Friday afternoon... He's probably in a Taco Bell induced coma at the moment.

Gotta watch out for those damn chalupa's.

[Honolulu_Blue]

With this pick I am going with leadership first and aswesome power forwardness second:

1.11 LW (POWER FORWARD) DANY HEATLEY - SAN JOSE

[Honolulu_Blue]

Is Dr. Sak picking for SR? There was talk of some sort of unholy alliance and I know SR is out for the weekend and I thought he didn't have access from work.

[Dr. Sak]

I'll email him and get you his pick shortly.

[Honolulu_Blue]

I'll email him and get you his pick shortly.

Thanks, Dr. Sak! You make a very good and diligent bitch. At least that's what Dany Heatley told me.

[Dr. Sak]

Thanks, Dr. Sak! You make a very good and diligent bitch. At least that's what Dany Heatley told me.

Yeah Heatley told me you cried after sex so he had to move on to a manlier person.

[RomaGoth]

Yeah Heatley told me you cried after sex so he had to move on to a manlier person.

Yeah, Heatley is not known for moving on or anything....:lol:

[bbor]

Has Heatley asked for a trade yet?

[Honolulu_Blue]

Yeah Heatley told me you cried after sex so he had to move on to a manlier person.

It wasn't that. You see Cory Clouston came in and changed his role in the relationship, so he was the bottom. He got pissed and ran into your waiting arms.

[Dr. Sak]

It wasn't that. You see Cory Clouston came in and changed his role in the relationship, so he was the bottom. He got pissed and ran into your waiting arms.

True and he didn't like how you would say "Well Crosby does it this way maybe you should be more like him."

[Honolulu_Blue]

Has Heatley asked for a trade yet?

Not yet. But we are working on getting his crazy over-dialated pupil fixed.

[Honolulu_Blue]

True and he didn't like how you would say "Well Crosby does it this way maybe you should be more like him."

True. He does not take kindly to criticism. So, be careful with all of the Mike Richards comparisons. In fact, it's probably best you don't mention that name at all.

[RomaGoth]

True. He does not take kindly to criticism. So, be careful with all of the Mike Richards comparisons. In fact, it's probably best you don't mention that name at all.

or Jason Spezza

[RomaGoth]

dola

or Illa Kovalchuk

[Dr. Sak]

1.12 Jarome Iginla - Calgary Flames

2.1 Nicklas Bäckström - Washington Capitals

[Fidatelo]

Wow you even took the time to add the umlauts! What a good bitch.

[Honolulu_Blue]

2.2 C - Eric Staal - Carolina Hurricanes

[Dr. Sak]

I'm not a ra-tard...i have done drafts before.

[Fidatelo]

I wonder what the draft results would look like if Dr. Sak slipped us all a dose of rapies right now...

[RomaGoth]

I wonder what the draft results would look like if Dr. Sak slipped us all a dose of rapies right now...

WTF is a "rapie"?

[bbor]

2.3 Rick Nash LW

[Dr. Sak]

WTF is a "rapie"?

Did you see The Hangover?

[boberot]

1) Draft results are now included in the first post of this thread: Front Office Football Central - View Single Post - 2009 FOFC Fantasy Hockey Draft Thread (http://operationsports.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=2117321&postcount=1)
2) Draft results are also on the Yahoo site: Sign in to Yahoo! (http://hockey.fantasysports.yahoo.com/hockey/171514/draftresults)
3) Please note that your players won't show up on your roster until the 2nd round because each team needs at least one player to be considered active per Yahoo rules.


Hey, Sami, can you embed this in post #1, too? Might be useful.
[Well, the link to Yahoo, anyway -- probably not the link to the first post.]
Thanks!

[RomaGoth]

Did you see The Hangover?

No, but I want to. Hear it is hee-larious.

2.4 - Mike Green D, Capitals

[DeToxRox]

2.5 LW Ilya Kovalchuck - Thrashers

Xenophobe I ain't.

EDIT: Edited to add Thrashers

[Fidatelo]

No, but I want to. Hear it is hee-larious.

2.4 - Mike Green D, Capitals

DAMN IT!

[bhlloy]

2.6 Roberto Luongo, G Canucks

[TurnerONU22]

2.7 Joe Thornton - C - SJ

[Chief Rum]

All right, who's holding us up here?

[Fidatelo]

samifan is up

[Fidatelo]

Ok I'm going to end up disappearing for a long time (like 3+ hours) if samifan doesn't pick soon. Can I send someone a list of 2 guys that they can choose from depending on who samifan takes, and they can make the pick for me? Anyone up for that?

[samifan24]

2.8 Zdeno Chara - D - BOS

I will be away from my computer until later tonight and will update the Yahoo site at that time.

[Chief Rum]

Ok I'm going to end up disappearing for a long time (like 3+ hours) if samifan doesn't pick soon. Can I send someone a list of 2 guys that they can choose from depending on who samifan takes, and they can make the pick for me? Anyone up for that?

You can send it to me, but if samifan doesn't show up by 4 (PDT), there's a good chance not only will I not be able to post for you, but also for myself shortly after that.

[Chief Rum]

Speak of the devil, there he is. Cool, hopefully Fidatelo hasn't left.

[Fidatelo]

2.9 Alexander Semin - RW - WSH

Hopefully we can roll back to me before I leave tomorrow morning. I'll have a list ready to give someone regardless.

[DeToxRox]

2.9 Alexander Semin - RW - WSH

Hopefully we can roll back to me before I leave tomorrow morning. I'll have a list ready to give someone regardless.

Oh shit your team is now covered with Semin.

[RomaGoth]

2.9 Alexander Semin - RW - WSH

Hopefully we can roll back to me before I leave tomorrow morning. I'll have a list ready to give someone regardless.

Feel free to email your choices to me (or pm them) if you want, unless someone else already agreed to do it for you.

Oh shit your team is now covered with Semin.

Ewwwww. That's just nasty.

[Fidatelo]

Oh shit your team is now covered with Semin.

I know, isn't it awesome? I spent the last hour hoping to get my hands on some Semin!

[Fidatelo]

Feel free to email your choices to me (or pm them) if you want, unless someone else already agreed to do it for you.

Thanks, that sounds good. Samifan had originally offered, but I'm not sure it's appropriate given that he picks so close to me in the order. It will be better where you are at.

[Chief Rum]

I know, isn't it awesome? I spent the last hour hoping to get my hands on some Semin!

Boy, you must have iron control.

[Fidatelo]

Boy, you must have iron control.

It was hard for awhile, but I managed to hold out and not go for Semin prematurely.

[Chief Rum]

It was hard for awhile, but I managed to hold out and not go for Semin prematurely.

That would be more difficult if it wasn't hard.

[RomaGoth]

Almost 2 hours since the last pick. Who is on the clock and where is he?

[Chief Rum]

Almost 2 hours since the last pick. Who is on the clock and where is he?

It's boberot, and he's killing me, because I am going to be unavailable shortly. I am heading for home from work, and I'll check in briefly once I get there, but then I am out the door again to pick up family from the airport.

[boberot]

crap -- sorry, watching a movie with the fam. Pick in a few minutes.

[boberot]

2.10 Dion Phaneuf -- D -- Cgy

Sorry, guys, was watching closely all day. The pace suggested I would be OK with a few hours off. I'll be more vigilant.

[boberot]

Chief notified.

[samifan24]

Sorry for all the hiccups but it turns out Yahoo won't let me update your rosters page until the draft is complete. This means that you will not be able to see your roster or anyone else's roster from the "My Team" page until after the draft. However the list of available players is correct so you can refer to that list and this thread to see which players are still draft eligible. Sorry for all the confusion; this is my first time doing this and I'm going off my own experience in the FOFC Hardcore Baseball draft which took place just this spring.

[Chief Rum]

Sorry for the wait, guys, just got back from the airport.

2.11 LW Daniel Sedin

Travis is up.

[Travis]

2.12 - G - Evgeni Nabokov - SJ

3.1 - C - Marc Savard - Bos

[Chief Rum]

I'm worried I'll regret this, but he's already very good and could still get better.

3.2 RW Patrick "Two Dime" Kane -- CHI

[boberot]

Dang, Travis. Those were pretty high on my list.

3.3 G Nik Bakstrom -- Min

edit for boldness.

[Fidatelo]

3.4 LW - Michael Cammalleri - MTL

[Chief Rum]

Dang, Travis. Those were pretty high on my list.

3.3 G Nik Bakstrom -- Min

edit for boldness.

I don't think that pick was really that bold. :)

[Fidatelo]

Ok, I sent my list of choices for round 4 to RomaGoth to pick for me while I'm gone. I should be back Sunday evening, so if somehow this thing manages to snake its way back to me for round 5 while I'm away, and no one on the list I gave to RomaGoth is still available, just take the highest guy on Yahoo's list for me.

Have a great weekend everyone!

[samifan24]

3.5 Olli Jokinen, C, CAL

[TurnerONU22]

3.6 Martin Brodeur, G, NJ

[boberot]

I don't think that pick was really that bold. :)

Quite happy to get him in the 3rd round.

[bhlloy]

3.7 Shea Weber, D NAS

[DeToxRox]

3.8 - G Henrik Lundqvist, NYR

[samifan24]

TurnerONU22 sent me a list for his 4th rounder.

[RomaGoth]

3.9 - Miikka Kiprusoff, G, Calgary

[bbor]

A run on goalies

3.10 G Marc-Andre Fleury Pitt

[Honolulu_Blue]

3.11 D Nicklas Lidstrom - DET

[Dr. Sak]

3.12 Dan Boyle D - San Jose

4.1 Cristobal Huet G - Washington

[Honolulu_Blue]

4.2 Steve Mason G - Columbus

[RomaGoth]

3.12 Dan Boyle D - San Jose

4.1 Cristobal Huet G - Chicago

Fixed that for you.

[boberot]

back around 9.30 tonight -- 10 picks til my turn.

[Chief Rum]

back around 9.30 tonight -- 10 picks til my turn.

I am one after boberot, and I am also leaving for work. I'll be back pretty late, but I actually think we're at a pretty good pace for the weekend. It seems like it will reach me around the time I get back.

[bbor]

4.2 Vincent Lecavalier (TB - C)

[RomaGoth]

4.4 - Mike Richards, C, Flyers

[DeToxRox]

4.4 - D Sheldon Souray, Oilers

EDIT: Added bold

[bhlloy]

4.5 Jonathan Toews, C CHI

[TurnerONU22]

I think we're off on the numbers, as there are 2 4.2's:

4.7 Bobby Ryan, RW, ANA

[bhlloy]

noooooooooooooooooooooo.... great pick BTW

[samifan24]

Bobby Ryan is the man. I don't get the Souray pick.

[boberot]

Bobby Ryan is the man. I don't get the Souray pick.

I don't think it's so crazy.

50-60 pts 100 PIM and 200ish SOG from a D aint nothin' to sneeze at.

[samifan24]

4.8 Scott Hartnell, LW, PHI

I'm not a fan of the guy but man he's good to have on your fantasy roster.

[samifan24]

I don't think it's so crazy.

50-60 pts 100 PIM and 200ish SOG from a D aint nothin' to sneeze at.

I just think there are many other better options still available.

[RomaGoth]

(For Fidatelo)

4.9 - Cam Ward, G, Carolina

[boberot]

4.10 -- Jason Spezza, C -- OTT

I am willing to gamble that his horrible +/- last season was an aberration.

[samifan24]

(For Fidatelo)

4.9 - Cam Ward, G, Carolina

Thank you for posting for him.

[samifan24]

Chief Rum is on the clock.

[RomaGoth]

Thank you for posting for him.

Sure thing.

[Chief Rum]

Ever heard the term "early to bed, early to rise"? I'm the opposite on weekends. :)

Shoulda known you guys would finally cycle to me while I was dead to the world.

4.11 Brian Rafalski, D -- DET

[Chief Rum]

I'm not going to be around much longer. Surprised to not see Travis back around by now.

I may need someone to hold my list if he doesn't show up soon, because when I leave, I am probably going to be gone for several hours.

[Travis]

Sorry guys, phone died this morning and just finally got home from a post wedding party.

That said, hopefully Chief sticks around for a minute as I see he's in the thread ;)

4.12 - G - Ryan Miller - Buf

5.1 - RW - Johan Franzen - Det

[Chief Rum]

Sorry guys, phone died this morning and just finally got home from a post wedding party.

That said, hopefully Chief sticks around for a minute as I see he's in the thread ;)

4.12 - G - Ryan Miller - Buf

5.1 - RW - Johan Franzen - Det


A. Awesome! Glad you're back.

B. WTF, you picking another goalie! You already got Nabakov, you goalie hording punk. Not sure I woulda picked Miller, but he was high on the list.

Technically he is in a GK competition, but I think he'll end up as the #1...

5.2 Jonas Hiller, G -- ANA

[boberot]

5.3 Patrik Elias -- LW -- NJ

Man, had a tough time with that one. . . .

[RomaGoth]

(For Fidatelo)

5.4 - Martin St. Louis, RW, Lightning

[samifan24]

5.5 Pekka Rinne, G, NSH

I will be out this evening until about 11 PM EDT. I am not holding lists for anyone else at this point so hopefully we can make some progress tonight.

[boberot]

I think the pace has picked up pretty nicely and we're in good shape.

[I considered Rinne at 5.3, I like the kid . . . .]

[TurnerONU22]

5.6 Chris Pronger, D, PHI

[bhlloy]

5.7 David Backes, RW STL

[TurnerONU22]

B. WTF, you picking another goalie! You already got Nabakov, you goalie hording punk. Not sure I woulda picked Miller, but he was high on the list.


Well, he's not the only one, I already have both Thomas and Brodeur. :)

[Chief Rum]

Well, he's not the only one, I already have both Thomas and Brodeur. :)

Yeah, but I didn't have to be concerned with who you were picking in the turnaround. ;)

[Fidatelo]

Just wanted to say thanks to RomaGoth for making my rd 4 & 5 picks for me over the weekend.

I think we're making pretty good progress on this, although I'm personally glad I have a long time before my next pick because it's going to take me some time to absorb all the picks that were made over the weekend and figure out what to do next.

[RomaGoth]

Just wanted to say thanks to RomaGoth for making my rd 4 & 5 picks for me over the weekend.

I think we're making pretty good progress on this, although I'm personally glad I have a long time before my next pick because it's going to take me some time to absorb all the picks that were made over the weekend and figure out what to do next.

No problem Fidatelo. Happy to help.

DetoxRox is on the clock.

[DeToxRox]

5.8 - D Jay Bowmeester, Calgary

[RomaGoth]

5.9 - Chris Osgood, G, Red Wings

[bbor]

5.10 Brian Campbell (Chi - D)

[Honolulu_Blue]

5.11 Daniel Alfredsson, RW, Ottawa

[Dr. Sak]

SR said he'll be back sometime this afternoon. So i am going to let him make this pick.

[RomaGoth]

SR said he'll be back sometime this afternoon. So i am going to let him make this pick.

Well, he only has 2 1/2 hours left before an auto pick is made. SR, where you be at? :confused:

[Chief Rum]

Sak, if you have a list, I think we should get this one going.

[Fidatelo]

A promising weekend of drafting has given way to a snails pace today. I was thinking we could be doing about 2 rounds per day, but we'll be hitting the jackpot if we get more than another 3-4 picks in today.

[bhlloy]

Yeah, this kind of sucks. If we have a list and the person isn't around when their pick comes up I think we should use it.

[RomaGoth]

Yeah, this kind of sucks. If we have a list and the person isn't around when their pick comes up I think we should use it.

Otherwise, the Yahoo autopick should be made. We have only had 4 picks all day, at this rate we won't finish before the season starts.

[Dr. Sak]

I have his list at my house...i will make it when i get home which should be soon.

[Dr. Sak]

my pick was better

[Dr. Sak]

my pick was better

[Honolulu_Blue]

I have his list at my house...i will make it when i get home which should be soon.

Dude, you got home in 1 minute! That's amazing!

[Suburban Rhythm]

Sorry fellas

I just looked through the list real quickly, so I hope I am not repeating a selection

5.12 Nik Khabibulin - G Edmonton

6.1 Scott Niedermayer - D Anaheim

Edit

haha, nevermind

[Honolulu_Blue]

6.2 Thomas Vanek - LW - Buffalo

[RomaGoth]

Just for the record, which picks are the official SR picks?

[Suburban Rhythm]

Just for the record, which picks are the official SR picks?

If it doesn't change HB's pick, I'd prefer to use mine.
I didn't know how fast G's were going to go, still good forwards left.

[RomaGoth]

If it doesn't change HB's pick, I'd prefer to use mine.
I didn't know how fast G's were going to go, still good forwards left.

I'm fine with that. Maybe Sak can edit his posts to delete those picks so we don't get confused (I know I will).

[Honolulu_Blue]

If it doesn't change HB's pick, I'd prefer to use mine.
I didn't know how fast G's were going to go, still good forwards left.

It doesn't. Just have Dr. Sak delete his posts. (HE'LL LOSE POSTS! OMG!)

[Dr. Sak]

i updated mine

[Honolulu_Blue]

Suburban, you best slap your bitch. He's getting all uppity all of a sudden.

Maybe you need to punch him in the balls from behind like Sidney Crosby to set his ass straight.

[RomaGoth]

my pick was better

my pick was better

Nicely played, sir.

[bbor]

6.3 Andrei Markov (Mon - D)

[Suburban Rhythm]

Suburban, you best slap your bitch. He's getting all uppity all of a sudden.

Maybe you need to punch him in the balls from behind like Sidney Crosby to set his ass straight.

Thank God I was back in time before I let him get away with something crazy, like drafting a Flyer.

[RomaGoth]

6.4 - Patrick Marleau, LW, Sharks

[DeToxRox]

6. RW Marian Gaborik, RW, Rangers

[bhlloy]

6.5 Shane Doan, RW Hamilton

[samifan24]

I have a list from TurnerONU22

[DeToxRox]

6.5 Shane Doan, RW Hamilton

Hahaha well played sir

[samifan24]

6.8 Dennis Wideman, D, BOS

[samifan24]

Looks like we messed up the numerical order of the picks being made somewhere after the Bouwmeester pick.

edit - Nevermind. I forgot to include Turner's pick of Mark Streit in my initial list. My Wideman pick was actually 6.8 not 6.6 as I wrote originally.