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digamma
09-17-2009, 01:01 AM
From 2000 to 2003, Miami (FL) was 46-4 overall. From 2004 to the present, Miami is 1-4 vs. Georgia Tech. Discuss.
Karlifornia
09-17-2009, 03:40 AM
I guess if I'm being ordered to discuss this, I'd probably start with "The status quo never lasts". Pretty simple, no? There was a time when Nebraska and Florida State were top dogs, and now they are playing the mid-tier bowls, if they play in bowls at all.
Since 2004, Georgia Tech has had good teams, and Miami has had good teams (terrible teams if you ask their fans, but the reactionary nature of fans kind of renders that opinion faulty).
I would label this game as a pick 'em. GT gets the edge in coaching, and Miami gets the edge in raw talent. Is it being played @Tech? If so, I'd put my money on the Ramblin Wreck.
Butter
09-17-2009, 06:42 AM
It's at Miami. Georgia Tech without all the momentum of trick plays and crazy fans loses this one, I think. Unless Miami's defense is unable to stay home against the option.
Mizzou B-ball fan
09-17-2009, 06:54 AM
The game is not real important in the grand scheme of things, but I'm excited that I managed to pick up tickets to the Mizzou game this weekend. It'll be my 2 1/2 year old daughter's first college football game. She's all fired up about wearing her cheerleader outfit to the game. Hopefully a bit less eventful than last week's Mizzou game.
It's at Miami. Georgia Tech without all the momentum of trick plays and crazy fans loses this one, I think. Unless Miami's defense is unable to stay home against the option.
That last statement made me grin. "Georgia Tech will lose. Unless Miami can't stop them."
:)
larrymcg421
09-17-2009, 07:05 AM
Since 2004, Georgia Tech has had good teams, and Miami has had good teams (terrible teams if you ask their fans, but the reactionary nature of fans kind of renders that opinion faulty).
Good teams? I'd say average teams at best. Since 2004, Miami is 28-22. They're 1-2 in bowl games, including a 40-3 embarassment against LSU. The onyl bowl win is the MPC Computer bowl against Nevada. Sure, maybe that's a good record for some teams, but fans of the U expect better than that, and I don't think that's unreasonable or reactionary considering the kind of talent you can get to come there.
Butter
09-17-2009, 07:32 AM
That last statement made me grin. "Georgia Tech will lose. Unless Miami can't stop them."
:)
I should audition for ESPN with that kind of insight.
Logan
09-17-2009, 07:39 AM
I wouldn't quite say I'm worried about Rutgers taking on FIU this weekend, but when considering that they have stocked themselves with Florida talent overlooked by the big schools down there (similar to how Rutgers got started) and that their young coach worked under Schiano for years and knows him better than anyone else in college football...well, I wouldn't be surprised if we have some trouble.
larrymcg421
09-17-2009, 07:43 AM
I was at last year's Miami-GTech game, and the biggest problem Miami had was being disciplined against the option. They showed alot of speed, but all of that speed was running to the QB, leaving a man completely alone on the outside. They just kept pitching to that guy and he went for 40+ gains. They were more disciplined against FSU this year (snuffing out an attempted pitch ine one of the last plays), so i'm hoping with more experience they can handle GT now.
Kodos
09-17-2009, 08:50 AM
My parents drive me nuts. They are such fair-weather fans. During the 80s and early 90s, when San Francisco was winning Super Bowls, they were big fans. Now that SF sucks, they are no longer fans. They jumped on the Carolina bandwagon after their Super Bowl (and after they moved to NC).
What really gets me is that they both went to Florida State, and enjoyed all of their success over the years. But now they are huge Tebow and Florida fans. FSU is still a regular Top 25 team, but they've jumped to one of their main rivals because they are an elite team. Back in the Spurrier days, my dad regularly derided Florida. Unbelievable. Meanwhile, I stay loyal to Indiana and watch every IU football game, even when we're losing to MAC teams.
I've always hated the U, but I was glad to see them beat FSU this year.
Logan
09-17-2009, 09:14 AM
You should pull a North.
sterlingice
09-17-2009, 09:24 AM
Duke at Kansas this weekend. I know the preseason rankings aren't out yet but both teams are expected to be in the top 5. I have to give my biased pick of the Jayhawks, tho. With all of our key pieces returning and a pair of possible All Americans in Collins and Aldrich- I think this veteran team is too much to beat at home.
Oh wait. This is football? Never mind. :D
(We should still win, tho- at home against a Duke program who had 4 wins last year but that was their highest total since... 4... in 2003 and as many as they had all 4 years from 2004-2007)
SI
Mizzou B-ball fan
09-17-2009, 09:36 AM
Duke at Kansas this weekend. I know the preseason rankings aren't out yet but both teams are expected to be in the top 5. I have to give my biased pick of the Jayhawks, tho. With all of our key pieces returning and a pair of possible All Americans in Collins and Aldrich- I think this veteran team is too much to beat at home.
Oh wait. This is football? Never mind. :D
(We should still win, tho- at home against a Duke program who had 4 wins last year but that was their highest total since... 4... in 2003 and as many as they had all 4 years from 2004-2007)
SI
Imagine my surprise this morning when I found out that Duke or Kansas even HAD a football program.
Izulde
09-17-2009, 10:30 AM
I'm pumped for the Hogs' Fayetteville opener this weekend. I really want us to kick Bulldog butt in our first real test of the season.
Did you claim your ticket successfully?
Izulde
09-17-2009, 10:34 AM
Did you claim your ticket successfully?
Yep. The deadline for on-campus ticket pickup was yesterday, but we could still get them at the ticket office, so I did after my first class. :)
dawgfan
09-17-2009, 02:51 PM
A chance for Sarkisian and the UW to make a big statement on Saturday against USC. I seriously doubt the Huskies will win, but stranger things have happened.
Should be interesting to see who ends up under C for USC - I'd guess Corp at this point.
Karlifornia
09-17-2009, 04:06 PM
Good teams? I'd say average teams at best. Since 2004, Miami is 28-22. They're 1-2 in bowl games, including a 40-3 embarassment against LSU. The onyl bowl win is the MPC Computer bowl against Nevada. Sure, maybe that's a good record for some teams, but fans of the U expect better than that, and I don't think that's unreasonable or reactionary considering the kind of talent you can get to come there.
It's nice to see my point get proven so quickly ;)
tarcone
09-17-2009, 04:13 PM
Iowa gets Arizona at home. Blackout day in Iowa City.
The return of Mike Stoops. Fun stuff.
Its on at 2:30 on ABC. I hope I get it.
RomaGoth
09-17-2009, 04:58 PM
Excited about tonight's game. Looking for Miami to play well and handle GT. They look to be more disciplined this season and better coached than last year. Is Shannon learning how to coach better? We shall see.
SackAttack
09-17-2009, 05:08 PM
A chance for Sarkisian and the UW to make a big statement on Saturday against USC. I seriously doubt the Huskies will win, but stranger things have happened.
Should be interesting to see who ends up under C for USC - I'd guess Corp at this point.
Did something happen to Barkley?
DeToxRox
09-17-2009, 05:26 PM
Did something happen to Barkley?
Thought he had a banged up shoulder but I heard he had been practicing.
MizzouRah
09-17-2009, 05:43 PM
The game is not real important in the grand scheme of things, but I'm excited that I managed to pick up tickets to the Mizzou game this weekend. It'll be my 2 1/2 year old daughter's first college football game. She's all fired up about wearing her cheerleader outfit to the game. Hopefully a bit less eventful than last week's Mizzou game.
I'll be there with my 13 year old daughter and some friends!
dawgfan
09-17-2009, 06:49 PM
Word is Barkley was going to practice today, but haven't heard confirmation if he did or not yet. He hasn't practiced yet this week due to the shoulder bruise he sustained against Ohio State.
larrymcg421
09-17-2009, 06:57 PM
It's nice to see my point get proven so quickly ;)
How is that reactionary?
larrymcg421
09-17-2009, 07:04 PM
Great start for the Canes!
Really like what Whipple has done with the offense. Much more aggressive than Nix.
JonInMiddleGA
09-17-2009, 07:05 PM
Tech secondary, torched it was.
Eaglesfan27
09-17-2009, 07:10 PM
Did something happen to Barkley?
He hurt his shoulder midway through the Ohio State game which just adds to the impressive nature of the final drive.
JonInMiddleGA
09-17-2009, 07:14 PM
Umm, about that measurement ...
larrymcg421
09-17-2009, 07:21 PM
Umm, about that measurement ...
Not sure about that either. Maybe it was a bad camera angle? The Tech players standing right there didn't seem to complain.
larrymcg421
09-17-2009, 07:26 PM
Another TD for Miami. The offense hasn't looked this good since 02.
JonInMiddleGA
09-17-2009, 07:30 PM
Tech secondary hasn't looked this bad since ... well, okay, it happens not infrequently but still.
larrymcg421
09-17-2009, 07:31 PM
Miami special teams need to get it together. They've been awful in both games so far.
JonInMiddleGA
09-17-2009, 07:39 PM
If Tech doesn't find someone who can block on the interior this may be a familiar frustrating feeling.
JonInMiddleGA
09-17-2009, 07:53 PM
Tech's defense just looks spent. Second half of this one could get very very ugly.
JonInMiddleGA
09-17-2009, 08:10 PM
The only thing Tech could have done much worse in that half was turn the ball over several times. Very little blocking, very little defense, plenty of penalties, obviously there ain't going to be any passing. Just a piss poor performance thus far, although a team that has heart questions already playing tired is a recipe for disaster.
larrymcg421
09-17-2009, 08:40 PM
Dwyer is hurt and might not return.
BishopMVP
09-17-2009, 08:41 PM
Excited about tonight's game. Looking for Miami to play well and handle GT. They look to be more disciplined this season and better coached than last year. Is Shannon learning how to coach better? We shall see.More Mark Whipple imo, at least on the offensive side of the ball. He should have been a BCS head coach years ago. From 1998 when he led UMass to the upset of Paul Johnson's Georgia Southern team in the title game - "If we score 50, we'll be fine." Final score 55-43 UMass.
larrymcg421
09-17-2009, 08:46 PM
Those short fields are going to hurt the Canes. They cannot keep letting GA Tech start at the 40 yard line.
Radii
09-17-2009, 08:55 PM
3rd and anything less than 10 is basically automatic for miami at this point.
That looked like it couldve broken his neck.
and he just gets up as if nothing happened. crap man that looked awful.
JonInMiddleGA
09-17-2009, 09:07 PM
Those short fields are going to hurt the Canes. They cannot keep letting GA Tech start at the 40 yard line.
Eh, the sooner Tech gives the ball up the sooner Miami can just score again.
RomaGoth
09-17-2009, 09:07 PM
Hahahahahaha. Nice kick into the crowd for a safety.
miami_fan
09-17-2009, 09:08 PM
What is the rationale behind the penalty on that play?
Dr. Sak
09-17-2009, 09:08 PM
Anyone else see that little girl crying on her dad's shoulders as he jumps around?
RomaGoth
09-17-2009, 09:08 PM
Dola.
Looks like the U is back. At least early in the season. They look good.
RomaGoth
09-17-2009, 09:09 PM
Dola. Strike my last dola.
larrymcg421
09-17-2009, 09:10 PM
Eh, the sooner Tech gives the ball up the sooner Miami can just score again.
Maybe, but it's the kind of thing that could kill them in future games, like say @ Virginia Tech.
BishopMVP
09-17-2009, 09:10 PM
Other games I'm looking forward to this weekend:
Boise St. @ Fresno St. 9PM ESPN (Friday) - Not a bad Friday night game to have on in the backround. If Boise's a Top 10 team (imo they're not), they'll show it away from the blue turf.
Cal @ Minnesota 12:00 ESPN - Finally a 12pm Big Ten game worth watching.
BC @ Clemson 12:00 No TV - The most consistent team of the decade against possibly the most talented and inconsistent.
Tennessee @ Florida 3:30 CBS - UT is still starting Crompton, so any chance for an upset is out the window, but the rest of the team has some talent, so it'll be nice to see UF play a real team.
Nebraska @ Va Tech 3:30 ABC - Two similar power running, defense-oriented teams. One of the two will probably end the year in the top 10.
Utah @ Oregon 3:30 ESPN - I think both these teams are overrated and living off last years rep, but maybe one can start dissuading me. A win for Utah would be more surprising and give them some credibility.
Cincinnati @ Oregon St 6:45 TV? - I think Cincy's offense is really good (#10 in my latest poll) but they looked vulnerable to Rutgers power running until the game turned into a blowout. A cross-country blowout could validate their high ranking.
Florida St. @ BYU 7:00 CSN? - FSU nearly comes in 0-2 after sweating vs. a 1-AA school, but they have talent and speed. One of 3 big home games left for BYU (TCU, Utah) on their road to the BCS.
West Virginia @ Auburn 7:45 ESPN2 - Two unranked teams who could be BCS darkhorses. If Auburn wins they should be 6-0 going into LSU and if WV does they should be 9-0 going into Cincinnati.
Georgia/Arkansas 7:45 ESPN - If I didn't have it on the list here at FOFC I'd make enemies on both sides. :)
Texas Tech @ Texas 8:00 ABC - Not quite the nightcap Ohio St/USC was, but a good litmus test for both teams. Tech obviously lost a lot of offense, but they've never had a problem reloading. If Texas comes out like they did against Wyoming, this could be a game. If they're really a NC contender, it shouldn't be.
EDIT - and obviously Michigan St. @ Notre Dame 3:30 NBC, but I suspect there is less interest on other people's part there.
larrymcg421
09-17-2009, 09:33 PM
Way too early to go for the onside kick.
BishopMVP
09-17-2009, 09:52 PM
Way too early to go for the onside kick.If you're having that much trouble stopping the offense, and allowing the kick returns past the 40 anyways, it's not that bad an idea.
Honolulu_Blue
09-17-2009, 10:05 PM
EDIT - and obviously Michigan St. @ Notre Dame 3:30 NBC, but I suspect there is less interest on other people's part there.
This is the game I'm most looking forward to. A huge game for both schools and especially for Charlie Weiss. These games have been wildly entertaining the last several years.
Go Sparty!
Recoil
09-17-2009, 10:12 PM
I want to run through walls, but I'm gonna drink myself retarded first.
JonInMiddleGA
09-17-2009, 10:20 PM
I want to run through walls, but I'm gonna drink myself retarded first.
Don't try it, you'll just get tackled behind the line since there's not much blocking in front of you.
cartman
09-17-2009, 10:23 PM
Interesting story line (maybe for some) in the Alabama-North Texas game. Greg McElroy, the QB at 'Bama, played in high school under NT coach Todd Dodge at Southlake Carroll, where he took over after Chase Daniel graduated and won a 5A title.
Swaggs
09-17-2009, 10:33 PM
Nothing against USC, but if I have to watch the USC/Lean on Me thing on ESPN one more time, I'm going to go apeshit.
ISiddiqui
09-17-2009, 11:30 PM
Dola.
Looks like the U is back. At least early in the season. They look good.
Yep, that they do. Very much in the driver's seat in the ACC right now (so far).
Karlifornia
09-18-2009, 02:43 AM
Nothing against USC, but if I have to watch the USC/Lean on Me thing on ESPN one more time, I'm going to go apeshit.
Seriously. 8 seconds into the first time I saw it I thought "God, just please stop this"
the_meanstrosity
09-18-2009, 05:33 AM
Being in the Big 12 region, these two are the most intriguing matchups this weekend. This is a huge test for Nebraska, but is a winnable matchup. I think defensively they should be able to hold Virginia Tech, but I'm really interested to see how NU handles V-Tech's defense.
This is the revenge game for Texas after losing to Crabtree and Tech last year. I have a feeling that Texas wins easily, but I'm hoping for a good game.
Nebraska @ Va Tech 3:30 ABC - Two similar power running, defense-oriented teams. One of the two will probably end the year in the top 10.
Texas Tech @ Texas 8:00 ABC - Not quite the nightcap Ohio St/USC was, but a good litmus test for both teams. Tech obviously lost a lot of offense, but they've never had a problem reloading. If Texas comes out like they did against Wyoming, this could be a game. If they're really a NC contender, it shouldn't be.
BishopMVP
09-18-2009, 06:15 AM
This is the game I'm most looking forward to. A huge game for both schools and especially for Charlie Weis. These games have been wildly entertaining the last several years.
Go Sparty!Obviously CMU and LeFevour are better than the average MAC team, but losing to them really took the luster off this matchup. Half of me is going to be really mad if MSU is within 2 touchdowns, but considering MSU has won 6 straight at ND, I should probably be happy if they can just manage a win.
btw, meanstrosity - any chance you could put your reply below the quoted text in your posts? It always throws me off by looking like a signature or an article you're posting.
whomario
09-18-2009, 06:50 AM
not an expert on either team, but Georgia doesnīt have any passing game at all, do they ?
Weird fact of the night : They had 1 receiver catching any passes, Demaryius Thomas with 6. Thatīs it, no one else caught a ball.
RomaGoth
09-18-2009, 07:01 AM
Nothing against USC, but if I have to watch the USC/Lean on Me thing on ESPN one more time, I'm going to go apeshit.
Seriously. 8 seconds into the first time I saw it I thought "God, just please stop this"
Same here. I wanted to vomit.
Mizzou B-ball fan
09-18-2009, 07:22 AM
Nebraska @ Va Tech 3:30 ABC - Two similar power running, defense-oriented teams. One of the two will probably end the year in the top 10.
Disagree. I'm of the opinion that these two teams couldn't be more overrated than they currently are. With that said, it would be a major embarrassment for VT to lose this game. VT should win this game easily.
JonInMiddleGA
09-18-2009, 07:36 AM
not an expert on either team, but Georgia doesnīt have any passing game at all, do they ?
Did you mean Georgia here, or Georgia Tech. If the latter, obviously not. If the former, they've got a darned good receiver in A.J. Green but it's still unclear whether they've got a QB that can get him the ball.
Weird fact of the night : They had 1 receiver catching any passes, Demaryius Thomas with 6. Thatīs it, no one else caught a ball.
He also caught 3 of 4 passes (the other went to RB Allen) against Clemson.
And caught the only completed pass vs UGA last year, and all 9 completions vs Duke last year, and was the only actual WR to catch a pass in 8 of Tech's 13 games last season. So really not that weird once you get used to seeing the offense really, since he's been the only WR to catch a pass in 10 of 16 games in the Paul Johnson era.
cschex
09-18-2009, 09:16 AM
The thing that struck me in the game last night is how vulnerable GaTech is to a team with a lot of athleticism and discipline on defense, mainly because Nesbitt does not appear to be that good of a passer. (This was the case in Chick-Fil-A Bowl against LSU as well). I wonder if Johnson will be able to recruit a good option QB who can be more of a passing threat to at least keep the defense honest. It's hard for a team like that to win when they are constantly in 2nd/3rd and long situations all night.
MrBug708
09-18-2009, 10:12 AM
UCLA is likely going with Kevin Craft over Richard Brehaut. Craft led the PAC-10 (and nation?) in INT's last year with 20
RomaGoth
09-18-2009, 10:46 AM
UCLA is likely going with Kevin Craft over Richard Brehaut. Craft led the PAC-10 (and nation?) in INT's last year with 20
That is a rather dubious statistic, eh?
Mizzou B-ball fan
09-18-2009, 10:47 AM
That is a rather dubious statistic, eh?
Meh. If you include those interceptions as completions, his completion percentage is really good. :)
RomaGoth
09-18-2009, 11:22 AM
Looking for Notre Dame to crush Michigan State tomorrow. This is not so much because I think ND is a great team (they are above average, but not great), but more because MSU is just not that good.
ND 39
MSU 20
CU Tiger
09-18-2009, 12:46 PM
He also caught 3 of 4 passes (the other went to RB Allen) against Clemson.
And caught the only completed pass vs UGA last year, and all 9 completions vs Duke last year, and was the only actual WR to catch a pass in 8 of Tech's 13 games last season. So really not that weird once you get used to seeing the offense really, since he's been the only WR to catch a pass in 10 of 16 games in the Paul Johnson era.
Coming into last nights game Thomas was the only WR with a catch on the team...a single shut down corner ends techs passing game and lets a D play 8 if not 9 in the box
Eaglesfan27
09-18-2009, 06:42 PM
UCLA is likely going with Kevin Craft over Richard Brehaut. Craft led the PAC-10 (and nation?) in INT's last year with 20
Seems like a bad sign for those who thought Brehaut was going to be the golden boy for the Bruins.
JonInMiddleGA
09-18-2009, 06:43 PM
a single shut down corner ends techs passing game and lets a D play 8 if not 9 in the box
Actually Nesbitt's passing accuracy pretty much takes care of that even if your corners are 4'7" and on crutches.
BishopMVP
09-18-2009, 08:44 PM
Disagree. I'm of the opinion that these two teams couldn't be more overrated than they currently are. With that said, it would be a major embarrassment for VT to lose this game. VT should win this game easily.Ehhh... for overrated I'd go Utah, LSU, UNC and Boise St. I think Va Tech and Nebraska around 20 are about right right now. I still don't want to see either team play (except for Ndamokung Suh or however you spell it) and I won't be happy if either makes a BCS bowl, but I wouldn't be surprised.
Boise St. returns a pick for a TD and is up 10-0 after 1 in Fresno.
CU Tiger
09-18-2009, 10:49 PM
Actually Nesbitt's passing accuracy pretty much takes care of that even if your corners are 4'7" and on crutches.
true...
RomaGoth
09-18-2009, 10:55 PM
Good grief, Boise State's defense is awful tonight. Just awful.
RomaGoth
09-18-2009, 10:57 PM
dola
This game is fucking ridiculous. Looks like the old WAC games from the 80's...
MrBug708
09-18-2009, 11:05 PM
Seems like a bad sign for those who thought Brehaut was going to be the golden boy for the Bruins.
Why?
JonInMiddleGA
09-18-2009, 11:06 PM
I just looked at the box score for this game, which is now 48-34 Boise with still 13 minutes left. There's gotta be some sort of obscure record here somewhere.
Fresno's scoring drives include:
1 play 69 yd TD (Matthews 69 yd run)
3 plays 66 yds TD (Matthews 60 yd run, just 2:35 after the first one)
3 plays 77 yds TD (21 yd pass)
2 plays 75 yds TD (Matthews 68 yd run)
In all, ten touchdowns between them so far and only one of those drives has lasted more than 3 plays.
Big Fo
09-18-2009, 11:08 PM
Damn, the Fresno St. took a huge hit but got up well before the Boise St. linebacker. Kind of fits in with the whole crappy defense thing.
Eaglesfan27
09-18-2009, 11:09 PM
Why?
If Brehaut can't even beat out Craft, last year's interception machine, then it would seem he isn't as good as some were making him out to be when he was being recruited.
DeToxRox
09-18-2009, 11:13 PM
Jon - Honest question, if you had to pick your QB right now, would it be Ball or Nesbitt? This isn't trying to flame you I am just genuinely curious what GT fans say.
MrBug708
09-18-2009, 11:14 PM
If Brehaut can't even beat out Craft, last year's interception machine, then it would seem he isn't as good as some were making him out to be when he was being recruited.
Sure, that is one reason
DeToxRox
09-18-2009, 11:18 PM
If Brehaut can't even beat out Craft, last year's interception machine, then it would seem he isn't as good as some were making him out to be when he was being recruited.
Eh. Breuhart came out of HS as being a raw QB who had a lot of talent but needed work. I don't see any reason to risk starting 3-0 on the road vs a beatable K-State team. If UCLA was better and didn't have a young OL, it'd make more sense, but they're young on the line and pretty beat up if I recall. Let Craft go out and play, he won't be as bad as last year with another year under his belt, and UCLA should win.
It's all not worth burning a red shirt.
JonInMiddleGA
09-18-2009, 11:18 PM
Nesbitt, without even a second's hesitation.
His passing woes are troublesome & they're holding back the offense a good bit IMO but that said there are definite signs of improvement. He's not fumbling at at last year's rate, he really does look more comfortable with the offense, and he may actually have improved his durability which is huge in this scheme. I'm more familiar with his high school career than I am with most college players I guess and I'm confident that he's actually a better passer than he's shown thus far, he's just in a horrible deep blue funk when it comes to throwing it & I just wild-assed guess that it has something to do with being so focused on the running/decision making aspects that his brain is on overload.
I picture the Sponge-Bob-forgets-his-name episode (where the little SB's run around in a panic searching through file cabinets inside his head) going on for Nesbitt every time there's a drop back pass play.
DeToxRox
09-18-2009, 11:21 PM
Nesbitt, without even a second's hesitation.
His passing woes are troublesome & they're holding back the offense a good bit IMO but that said there are definite signs of improvement. He's not fumbling at at last year's rate, he really does look more comfortable with the offense, and he may actually have improved his durability which is huge in this scheme. I'm more familiar with his high school career than I am with most college players I guess and I'm confident that he's actually a better passer than he's shown thus far, he's just in a horrible deep blue funk when it comes to throwing it & I just wild-assed guess that it has something to do with being so focused on the running/decision making aspects that his brain is on overload.
I picture the Sponge-Bob-forgets-his-name episode (where the little SB's run around in a panic searching through file cabinets inside his head) going on for Nesbitt every time there's a drop back pass play.
That's the answer I expected. GT is a 9 win team as long as a guy like Nesbitt is QB, but can take a run at a top 5 type team when they get a QB who can throw. Right now though it's obvious teams just stay in their gaps and they blitz the safety to cause disruption without worrying about being beat deep.
I'd shudder to think how a kid like Robert Griffin III would do at GT. They'd probably never lose.
MrBug708
09-18-2009, 11:26 PM
Eh. Breuhart came out of HS as being a raw QB who had a lot of talent but needed work. I don't see any reason to risk starting 3-0 on the road vs a beatable K-State team. If UCLA was better and didn't have a young OL, it'd make more sense, but they're young on the line and pretty beat up if I recall. Let Craft go out and play, he won't be as bad as last year with another year under his belt, and UCLA should win.
It's all not worth burning a red shirt.
The redshirt was already burned this year. But you're reasoning is sound and I think it's true, not so much the raw part but everything else. UCLA needs to finish out the OOC at 3-0 and I think the coaches aren't playing for the future, they are playing now. Prince was both, Craft is now, Brehaut has the potential. Why risk a game in a classical letdown situation? I can't imagine Craft has a long leash, but I think he'll be fine. The offensive line is actually giving the QB's some time this year so maybe Craft can make a read other then throw on the run
DeToxRox
09-18-2009, 11:33 PM
The redshirt was already burned this year. But you're reasoning is sound and I think it's true, not so much the raw part but everything else. UCLA needs to finish out the OOC at 3-0 and I think the coaches aren't playing for the future, they are playing now. Prince was both, Craft is now, Brehaut has the potential. Why risk a game in a classical letdown situation? I can't imagine Craft has a long leash, but I think he'll be fine. The offensive line is actually giving the QB's some time this year so maybe Craft can make a read other then throw on the run
Ah, didn't know that on the red shirt, but yeah, UCLA needs these wins bad and at K-State is one you just cannot afford to lose. He'll be ready eventually but it's still early and as bad as he was last year, Craft still is your best option to win this one game, and it's the one game that Neuheisel and co. should care about.
MrBug708
09-18-2009, 11:39 PM
Seeing as how KSU was the worst team vs the run last year, I would imagine UCLA runs the ball straight up the middle on 9 of 10 plays
Logan
09-19-2009, 12:06 PM
Jon - Honest question, if you had to pick your QB right now, would it be Ball or Nesbitt?
Ouch.
JonInMiddleGA
09-19-2009, 12:23 PM
Ouch.
Nah.
When a guy is 15/40 (37.5% comp%) it's a fair question. The scary part is that, flawed though the stat may be, his QB rating is currently a career best 118.97. And it's even more appropriate when you consider his performance against Miami was his 2nd best completion rate in his past five games.
There are several factors (reduced INT's, reduced sacks, reduced fumbles) that prevent him from reaching Ballish levels of concern but the question is a fair one IMO.
flounder
09-19-2009, 12:34 PM
I don't think that a poor passing game is Georgia Tech's problem. There was barely any passing game at all last year (besides the Duke game). The problem in the Miami game and the second half of the Clemson game was that the players seemed dead tired. Derrick Morgan is by far GT's best defensive lineman, and he was on the sideline as much as he was in the game. Nesbitt looked like he could barely stand up after that last drive in the Clemson game.
I don't know if the problem is conditioning, lack of depth, 3 games in 12 days or if Paul Johnson has been pushing them too hard at practice to try to improve the execution. Whatever the problem, if it keeps up there will be a lot more blowouts this season.
Dr. Sak
09-19-2009, 01:02 PM
Penn State is not a top 5 team. They are a borderline top 15 team.
sovereignstar
09-19-2009, 01:36 PM
Minnesota is hanging with 8th-ranked Cal 21-21 early in the 4th after a brutal start.
Honolulu_Blue
09-19-2009, 02:01 PM
Michigan clearly does not have a Top 25 defense. No. Not at all.
Eaglesfan27
09-19-2009, 02:38 PM
No real surprise. Barkley was too hurt to practice all week, so Corp is starting today. Taylor Mays is also out today.
Eaglesfan27
09-19-2009, 02:42 PM
USC marches down the field, covering 80 yards in 6 plays including a 38 yard run by Havili and a TD run by McKnight.
JonInMiddleGA
09-19-2009, 02:54 PM
OMG !!! Crompton just completed a pass against an SEC defense.
Also today, dogs & cats living together, film at eleven.
Eaglesfan27
09-19-2009, 02:58 PM
Corp is lucky not to have gotten picked off as he just threw into triple coverage.
On this drive, two 25 yard plus runs as USC has a 7 play 68 yard drive that ends in a field goal. 10-0 lead.
JonInMiddleGA
09-19-2009, 03:04 PM
13 rushes, 1 pass for UT in their first drive (and 3 conversions on 3rd down) ... Daniel Lincoln ties it 3-3 with a 24 yd FG. Just 3 mins left in Q1, great time consuming drive by the Vols, the shorter this game is the better the final score will be.
Eaglesfan27
09-19-2009, 03:08 PM
Locker led a great drive. Ends it with a QB sneak for a TD. 10-7 game with 11 seconds left in the 1st quarter.
Eaglesfan27
09-19-2009, 03:21 PM
McKnight turns his ankle on a kickoff return. USC's offensive line shows some dominance opening huge lanes. On 4th and 1, Stafon Johnson fumbles the ball and Washington recovers on their own 25.
JonInMiddleGA
09-19-2009, 03:34 PM
So elsewhere today, NIU beats Purdue 28-21 for their first win over a B10 team in 21 years.
MTSU leads Maryland 13-7 early in Q2 while UVA is surprisingly ahead of Southern Miss 13-0 after 1 qtr.
And trailing 10-3 midway through Q2, Eric Berry picks off a low Tebow pass (now under review)
Surprised to see the game this close.
JonInMiddleGA
09-19-2009, 03:39 PM
Lousy play by WR Gerald Jones costs UT a TD, as he stepped OOB in the end zone after getting open. After the pick Vols have to settle for a short Lincoln FG to close within 10-6 with 5:56 left in the half. So far Hardesty has been very effective running the ball, getting near 70 yards on about a dozen carries.
You don't beat the Florida Gators by kicking field goals.
Galaxy
09-19-2009, 03:42 PM
Interesting play by Locker to get that penalty.
Eaglesfan27
09-19-2009, 03:43 PM
Interesting play by Locker to get that penalty.
BS penalty. Locker was still trying to make a play, the defender can't hold up when he is making a play.
Corp has looked bad and certainly isn't making anyone think he should start over Barkley, once he is healthy.
JonInMiddleGA
09-19-2009, 03:45 PM
Damn, Chris Walker nearly beheaded Tebow on that sack.
edit to add: The Florida line looks fairly tentative so far today, Tebow has already chewed their ass on the sideline once. And with a second sack in just three dropback pass plays I suspect another chewing may be forthcoming.
Eaglesfan27
09-19-2009, 03:47 PM
Washington ties the game at 10 with 4 minutes left in the half.
bhlloy
09-19-2009, 03:53 PM
What... the... fuck is Aaron Corp doing out there? Mustain time second half if Barkley can't go.
I don't like the playcalling at all, but Corp is playing like a complete pussy. He's throwing it after 3 seconds whether his guys are open or not. Hang in the pocket and make a damn play.
Eaglesfan27
09-19-2009, 03:56 PM
What... the... fuck is Aaron Corp doing out there? Mustain time second half if Barkley can't go.
I don't like the playcalling at all, but Corp is playing like a complete pussy. He's throwing it after 3 seconds whether his guys are open or not. Hang in the pocket and make a damn play.
I didn't agree with your criticisms last week, but I'm with you this week. Time for Mustain to get into this game. Corp has been a total disappointment. The run game has forced 8 and 9 men into the box and Corp still isn't making any plays.
JonInMiddleGA
09-19-2009, 04:00 PM
LOL, "we sent Tracy Woolfson to track down Lane Kiffin going to the locker room ... and he outran her"
13-6 Florida at the half, much closer than anyone in their right mind would have expected. 1st half showed good gameplanning by UT to give Crompton some successful opportunities to throw (4/6 for 46 yds, could have been 5/6 with a TD if not for the WR screw up). The key though has been the OL play doing enough for Hardesty to be successful running the ball & credit to him that he's running hard & smart with the exception of getting up woofing after a first down in Q1. Been enough talk already, just run the damn ball & hush son.
I fully expect Florida to annihilate them in the second half but the pre-game preparation appears to have been quite solid for the Vols while the Gators look to be playing with too much reserve overall.
bhlloy
09-19-2009, 04:01 PM
And what a brilliant call with time expiring. Best case scenario you get a few yards and have to rush your kicker onto the field as time expires. Worst case scenario you completely blow any shot of kicking the FG. Very unimpressed with Bates so far, and don't even get me started on Schneider (new ST coach)
Eaglesfan27
09-19-2009, 04:04 PM
Horrible play calling at the end of the half, but I don't blame Bates for the playcalling as I think he has been directed by Pete to keep things conservative for Corp's first start. Corp has zero velocity on his throws, I can throw harder than that and I don't blame them for going conservative on the passing.
As far as Schneider, I agree. I hate to say it, but I almost think our special teams were better when we didn't have a dedicated special teams coach. He has been very disappointing.
JonInMiddleGA
09-19-2009, 04:06 PM
Elsewhere Nebraska goes up on VT 12-10 at the half with their fourth FG of the day and Oregon is now 21-7 on Utah just before the half with the Utes just 5 for 18 passing and only 80 yards total offense
JonInMiddleGA
09-19-2009, 04:20 PM
Crompton opens the 2nd half by throwing a third down INT.
Lathum
09-19-2009, 04:23 PM
Just caught up on the UW game. Couldn't be happier so far.
Lathum
09-19-2009, 04:23 PM
Crompton opens the 2nd half by throwing a third down INT.
Crompton sucks but that was an great pick by th DB
Eaglesfan27
09-19-2009, 04:26 PM
Locker with an amazing run back and forth across the field to get 4 yards. Looked like something from EA sports.
JonInMiddleGA
09-19-2009, 04:28 PM
Gators limited to a FG, now 16-6 Florida with 10 min left in Q3.
Tebow doesn't have nearly as much help this year as season's past & it really shows.
Lathum
09-19-2009, 04:30 PM
sideline interference?
seriously?
Eaglesfan27
09-19-2009, 04:33 PM
sideline interference?
seriously?
Makes up for that BS late hit in the 1st half.
JonInMiddleGA
09-19-2009, 04:34 PM
Run a short draw on 3rd & 21. If Tennessee had anything that resembled a quarterback they might approach .500 this year. Unfortunately they don't.
Lathum
09-19-2009, 04:34 PM
Makes up for that BS late hit in the 1st half.
There was a BS late hit in the first half called on the Huskies.
JonInMiddleGA
09-19-2009, 04:37 PM
Michigan State leads Notre Dame 17-16 at the half.
Dr. Sak
09-19-2009, 04:38 PM
sideline interference?
seriously?
Yeah..actually it could've been 15. It may be a BS call in your mind but I know a few guys who've gotten their legs broken by coaches either running into them or not getting out of the way.
JonInMiddleGA
09-19-2009, 04:38 PM
Tebow makes like Houdini and escapes on 3rd down and runs for the first. Just remarkable to watch this guy play football.
Lathum
09-19-2009, 04:39 PM
Huskies ball! Need to capitalize on the turnover!
Eaglesfan27
09-19-2009, 04:41 PM
USC with another fumble deep in Washington territory.
JonInMiddleGA
09-19-2009, 04:43 PM
Lundquist & Danielson (well, Danielson anyway) pretty much called it just now: It looks like Florida has Tebow today and not much else.
I think over the course of the season they're going to have to find ways to get the ball to Brandon James in space to give this offense a threat somewhere other than QB, otherwise this looks pretty close to being a one man team offensively.
Eaglesfan27
09-19-2009, 04:57 PM
Corp throws a terrible pick into double coverage. Another turnover in Washington territory.
JonInMiddleGA
09-19-2009, 05:02 PM
Vols defense looks to have run out of gas (physically and/or emotionally), it's 23-6 Florida and they're inside the 20 ready to score again.
Lathum
09-19-2009, 05:03 PM
UM not doing anything with these turnovers is a killer
Karlifornia
09-19-2009, 05:04 PM
Come on, Huskies.
Eaglesfan27
09-19-2009, 05:04 PM
USC's defense is playing great. If the offense can just stop turning it over, they should be able to win this comfortably in the 4th. Tied at 10 at the end of 3.
JonInMiddleGA
09-19-2009, 05:07 PM
End of Q3: MTSU regains the lead over Maryland 23-21
1 min left Q3: Nebraska still up 12-10, VT only 138 yds offense so far while giving up 272 including 151 to Roy Helu, Jr.
Tebow just got another first down but fumbled inside the 10, only (IIRC) the third time he's turned it over in the red zone in his career.
Radii
09-19-2009, 05:07 PM
holy crap anyone watching the nebraska/va tech game? What a sequence...
Nebraska with a very solid looking drive, they get inside the 10, and on 1st and goal throw what seems to be a TD pass... but no, penalty, leading to(from the CBS Sportsline play by play):
1-0-VATECH6 (1:55) NE was penalized 10 yards.
1-0-VATECH16 (1:55) NE was penalized 5 yards.
1-0-VATECH21 (1:50) Zac Lee passed incomplete to Menelik Holt.
2-0-VATECH21 (1:43) NE was penalized 10 yards.
2-0-VATECH31 (1:19) Zac Lee passed incomplete.
3-0-VATECH31 (1:14) NE was penalized 5 yards.
3-0-VATECH36 (1:14) Zac Lee lost 1 yard. Cordarrow Thompson sacked Zac Lee.
4-0-VATECH37 (0:32) Alex Henery punted for 37 yards. Touchback
Still 12-10 Nebraska...
Eaglesfan27
09-19-2009, 05:08 PM
Very nice defensive stop by the Washington defense on 3rd and 1. Mustain and Barkley are tossing the ball on the sideline..
JonInMiddleGA
09-19-2009, 05:09 PM
Tennesee just got their first 1st down of the 2nd half with inside 10 mins to play.
JonInMiddleGA
09-19-2009, 05:10 PM
Oopsie, that'll be their second. Florida blew up a reverse but gets called for excessive celebration.
edit correction, that made it 2nd & 1, Brice Brown runs for 13 yds on the next play, so it was their 2nd first down of the half.
Tigercat
09-19-2009, 05:10 PM
I am happy for the LSU players and coaches, who performed in a lackluster fashion against Washington, but received a lot of unfair criticism after that game as well. This Washington team is for real, just as South Carolina was in 2000, one year removed from a winless season. 0-12 last year doesn't mean a thing.
JonInMiddleGA
09-19-2009, 05:13 PM
Hardesty breaks two tackles on a very good run & Tennessee gets the first TD allowed by Florida this season with 8:11 left in Gainesville. Still 23-13 Gators but that looks a lot better than the 30-6 we we're looking at a few minutes ago.
Eaglesfan27
09-19-2009, 05:16 PM
Locker is playing great. He keeps getting low snaps that are bouncing back to him, yet he handles them perfectly and makes good throws after the bad snaps. Just converted a 3rd and 11.
Karlifornia
09-19-2009, 05:17 PM
Locker is playing great. He keeps getting low snaps that are bouncing back to him, yet he handles them perfectly and makes good throws after the bad snaps. Just converted a 3rd and 11.
ABC not carrying this in Louisiana, eh?
Eaglesfan27
09-19-2009, 05:20 PM
ABC not carrying this in Louisiana, eh?
Parts of Louisiana are getting the USC game, and I'm getting it via my Baton Rouge local ABC station.
Lathum
09-19-2009, 05:20 PM
and UW takes the lead! Getting interesting.
JonInMiddleGA
09-19-2009, 05:21 PM
Another sack of Tebow on a zone blitz (and yes, Walker should have gotten a celebration penalty just like Florida got). The Gators look vulnerable to an attacking defense, especially if they don't find some gamebreaking threats. But is there anyone on their regular season schedule who can actually do something with the opportunity?
Meanwhile, down by 10 with 6 minutes left & Tennessee has very little choice but to keep running the ball.
Eaglesfan27
09-19-2009, 05:22 PM
Sigh. Corp just underthrew a wide open receiver.
Galaxy
09-19-2009, 05:25 PM
Does Tennessee know the time and score?
JonInMiddleGA
09-19-2009, 05:25 PM
3 minutes left, down by 10 and UT isn't even looking downfield, just throwing underneath & still running the ball. I know there isn't much, or even any, choice but it's frustrating to watch. Fumbled on another dump pass but it luckily rolled OOB.
edit to add: After avoiding a sack on a blitz, Crompton throws one away & somehow the refs miss the obvious intentional grounding. 4th & 6 from the 50 with 2 minutes left.
Karlifornia
09-19-2009, 05:27 PM
Crompton is who we thought he was. My goodness.
Eaglesfan27
09-19-2009, 05:27 PM
It's time for Barkley to pull a Willis Reed. Either that or the defense needs to score a touchdown for USC here.
Galaxy
09-19-2009, 05:29 PM
Go Huskies! :)
Karlifornia
09-19-2009, 05:30 PM
Nice punt return by the SC dude
Eaglesfan27
09-19-2009, 05:30 PM
Or a punt return for a TD would work.. nice effort by Williams on that punt return.
Eaglesfan27
09-19-2009, 05:31 PM
McKnight with a 30-40 yard run, but he fumbles it in midstride! This game is going to give me a heart attack.
JonInMiddleGA
09-19-2009, 05:33 PM
And the Incrompetant One throws into double coverage and gets picked, game over. Right play call, unfortunately UT had to run the play with the hands down worst QB I've ever seen start in Division 1. Consider that I've been watching Georgia Tech for close to 40 years now when you put that statement in perspective.
Game planning was solid, Florida made much better adjustments at the half & dominated the third quarter. They also took a knee in the final minute, to their credit.
Eaglesfan27
09-19-2009, 05:34 PM
On 3rd and 6 from the 7, USC runs it. It is obvious now why Pete didn't want to name a starter and hoped that Barkley could go. At least there will be no QB controversy after this game.
Tied game at 13.
Lathum
09-19-2009, 05:40 PM
first down!!
Eaglesfan27
09-19-2009, 05:42 PM
Locker making clutch play after clutch play. Great throw on 3rd and 15 and now a nice roll out run for a 1st. 1 minute left and I have a sick feeling.
tarcone
09-19-2009, 05:43 PM
Iowa 27-17 over Arizona. Big game by the defense. Offense is still very inconsistent.
Karlifornia
09-19-2009, 05:44 PM
The UW kicker is on the threshold of getting some high quality Husky tail tonight
Lathum
09-19-2009, 05:45 PM
Huge pass and roughing the passer!!
Karlifornia
09-19-2009, 05:46 PM
lmao @ that USC linebacker celebrating after that tackle. Dude, you're about to lose the game.
Amazing play by Virgina Tech! ACC Pride.
Eaglesfan27
09-19-2009, 05:47 PM
Too many turnovers today killed the Trojans. The interception was to be expected, but all of the fumbles were killers.
Chief Rum
09-19-2009, 05:48 PM
On 3rd and 6 from the 7, USC runs it. It is obvious now why Pete didn't want to name a starter and hoped that Barkley could go. At least there will be no QB controversy after this game.
Tied game at 13.
Yeah, but both Corp and Mustain (both presumeably healthy) were #1 overall QBs in their classes. No one's going to tell me they can't throw the ball. What's going on there? Is it a development issue? And if it is, I think at least somewhat you have to look at the SC offensive coaching staff (including Sarkisian now on the other sideline, of course).
Schmidty
09-19-2009, 05:48 PM
Woot!!! Spartans lead!!!
JonInMiddleGA
09-19-2009, 05:48 PM
Umm ... how does Carroll not use a timeout there?
Big Fo
09-19-2009, 05:48 PM
Tate catches a 50 yard bomb in the endzone then stagedives into the MSU band, nice.
Lathum
09-19-2009, 05:49 PM
HUSKIES WIN!!! HUSKIES WIN!!!!
Chief Rum
09-19-2009, 05:49 PM
Well, come to think of it, some of the blame there has to go to Mustain and Corp themselves, too.
Karlifornia
09-19-2009, 05:50 PM
LOL USC. Now all that's left for them to do is run the table and then cry about not getting an invite to the title game.
Virgina Tech wins what a great play and great game.
Chief Rum
09-19-2009, 05:51 PM
Way to go, Washington. I doubt I'll root for you the rest of the way, but I had you back today. Glad to see you come through.
JonInMiddleGA
09-19-2009, 05:52 PM
MTSU lining up for a 19 yd FG to possibly beat Maryland, currently down 31-29 with :02 to go (live look in on ESPN News)
How does USC for all the talent they have always find a way to lose to a PAC-10 with way less talent.
Schmidty
09-19-2009, 05:52 PM
Damnit. I jinx myself every time.
JonInMiddleGA
09-19-2009, 05:53 PM
Nailed it, Blue Raiders win it 32-31.
(The team I used to build a dynasty in NCAA 2k9)
Radii
09-19-2009, 05:53 PM
Virgina Tech wins what a great play and great game.
I was just bitching about not getting switched over to the USC game too... I dunno how the hell nebraska let that WR get behind their entire secondary.
cartman
09-19-2009, 05:53 PM
That Nebraska DB is going to spend the rest of his life wondering how in the hell he didn't get a piece of that pass.
bhlloy
09-19-2009, 05:54 PM
Congrats Washington. Deserved to win that game, no doubt about it.
Yet again completely stunned with our complete inability to adapt on offense. I don't think I have ever watched a team before that comes in with a gameplan and just sticks to it no matter what happens. Really it's pretty hard to swallow the offensive decision making in this game, especially with Mustain and Gable and Bradford and McNeal and a million other playmakers on the bench. Corp clearly wasn't ready after halftime and they just kept letting him throw it. Washington was stringing the outside runs out and we kept going to it. When it made sense to call a rollout pass we called a run up the middle and when the run was working we called a dropback pass. Same old shit every year. Can't really blame Sarkisian this time, who do we blame next?
That Nebraska DB is going to spend the rest of his life wondering how in the hell he didn't get a piece of that pass.
I don't see why because its impossible for a DB to defend for more then 3 seconds especially if they aren't really generating a pass rush.
Matthean
09-19-2009, 05:55 PM
Damnit. I jinx myself every time.
I think the Spartans futility is far bigger than just you. Plus, I don't mind ND winning from here on out if it means Weis keeps his job.
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JonInMiddleGA
09-19-2009, 05:55 PM
Oregon still leads Utah 31-24, inside 2 mins, despite a 4/16 QB performance for the Ducks. 'Course running for 219 helps.
Young Drachma
09-19-2009, 05:57 PM
Not surprised Wyoming marched into Boulder and got their ass handed to them. I fully expected it. Same ol' Pokes silliness.
Young Drachma
09-19-2009, 06:00 PM
Congrats to Jake Locker and Washington. About time they get a bit of sunshine in those parts. He's the real deal.
Lathum
09-19-2009, 06:00 PM
All the credt goes to the UW coaching staff and making the correct adjustments to stop the USC run.
It's a good day to be a husky.
General Mike
09-19-2009, 06:03 PM
Maryland went down to Middle Tennessee on a last second FG. Makes me nervous.
Karlifornia
09-19-2009, 06:12 PM
WTF was Cousins doing there? Take the sack, man! You can still tie it with a FG!
Wolfpack
09-19-2009, 06:14 PM
Maryland went down to Middle Tennessee on a last second FG. Makes me nervous.
Meh, don't be. Remember Maryland almost lost to JMU last week and in fact did get beat by MTSU last year, so this is par for the course for them.
BishopMVP
09-19-2009, 06:43 PM
Penn State is not a top 5 team. They are a borderline top 15 team.They're not, but there was a consensus maybe top 6 (now down to 3 after the OU/USC/OSU losses) and a whole bunch of teams that should be ranked around 15. I really don't feel any more comfortable putting Mississippi, Cal, or BYU in that 6th spot. Normally I hate it, but Penn St's reliability definitely looks to help them right now - they're less likely than the other contendors to drop a bad game.I am happy for the LSU players and coaches, who performed in a lackluster fashion against Washington, but received a lot of unfair criticism after that game as well. This Washington team is for real, just as South Carolina was in 2000, one year removed from a winless season. 0-12 last year doesn't mean a thing.That win looks a lot better for LSU now. I'll be moving them back up in my poll barring any surprises vs. ULL.I think the Spartans futility is far bigger than just you. Plus, I don't mind ND winning from here on out if it means Weis keeps his job.That's unlikely to happen with Michael Floyd breaking his collarbone today. Pretty much a season-killer, and we'll be lucky to hit 8-9 wins now - maybe Purdue's a gimme, but teams like UW, Pitt and Navy are gonna be tossups. It will give Weis an excuse for why he didn't make the BCS though, so you might get your wish regardless our record.
FSU up 13-0 on BYU after 1
Oregon St up 6-0 on Cincinnati after 1
cartman
09-19-2009, 06:58 PM
I don't see why because its impossible for a DB to defend for more then 3 seconds especially if they aren't really generating a pass rush.
Not for the coverage, but when you see the pass tailing back towards you, time your jump perfectly, sweep your arm out into the path of the ball and whiff, that is frustrating.
cartman
09-19-2009, 07:02 PM
Damn it, fucking Brent Musburger is in the booth for the Texas-Texas Tech game.
lynchjm24
09-19-2009, 07:09 PM
HUSKIES WIN!!! HUSKIES WIN!!!!
Thanks for being so excited. I mean, sure they were 11 point underdogs, but it's was only Baylor.
Swaggs
09-19-2009, 07:19 PM
Damn... WVU @ Auburn has been delayed due to lightning and rain. Been looking forward to this one all week -- it will be a bummer if it gets called. I wonder how much of a delay that they would allow for before cancelling it.
Swaggs
09-19-2009, 07:26 PM
Looks like they have called for an 8:49 PM kickoff now.
Hopefully, it will still be televised.
tarcone
09-19-2009, 07:27 PM
Are there any Iowa fans on this board?
cartman
09-19-2009, 07:37 PM
JORDAN FUCKIN' SHIPLEY!!!!
MrBug708
09-19-2009, 07:44 PM
Congrats Washington. Deserved to win that game, no doubt about it.
Yet again completely stunned with our complete inability to adapt on offense. I don't think I have ever watched a team before that comes in with a gameplan and just sticks to it no matter what happens. Really it's pretty hard to swallow the offensive decision making in this game, especially with Mustain and Gable and Bradford and McNeal and a million other playmakers on the bench. Corp clearly wasn't ready after halftime and they just kept letting him throw it. Washington was stringing the outside runs out and we kept going to it. When it made sense to call a rollout pass we called a run up the middle and when the run was working we called a dropback pass. Same old shit every year. Can't really blame Sarkisian this time, who do we blame next?
Carroll had really poor clock management in this game. USC just hasnt been the same offense since Chow left, but it's good to see that Sark learned a few things from Chow.
Karlifornia
09-19-2009, 07:46 PM
Arkansas looks like they'll be fun to watch this year.
Swaggs
09-19-2009, 07:49 PM
I wonder if Al Groh and/or Ralph Friedgen survive the season?
Not sure if or who the hot name will be for next season (not sure there is a Butch Davis like situation where it would pay off to have an early opening, maybe Gruden? Tuberville or Tommy Bowden, maybe?)
36-14 Florida State is crushing BYU.
M GO BLUE!!!
09-19-2009, 07:53 PM
Arkansas looks like they'll be fun to watch this year.
Mallet looks GOOD.
Atocep
09-19-2009, 07:57 PM
WVU goes up 7-0 early. 58 yard pass by JB and Devine caps it off from a couple yards out.
Swaggs
09-19-2009, 08:00 PM
WVU goes up 7-0 early. 58 yard pass by JB and Devine caps it off from a couple yards out.
I'm way more nervous than usual for this one. Feels like it could be a turning point, one way or the other, for the Stewart reign. I think he can be successful either way, but I feel like Stew can win over a lot of fans with a big win here.
dawgfan
09-19-2009, 08:01 PM
All I can say is FUCK YEAH!
Looked early on like USC was just going to run all over us, but USC started getting away from the run game and credit Holt and the UW defense - they buckled down. Mason Foster was a beast out there, seems like he's always involved in some way with turnovers.
I was actually frustrated at times with Sark's play-calling today, but I can't fault the result - huge, huge win for him and the program. It was fun to see everyone storming the field as soon as the clock hit zero, and there was so much elation in the stands - it was just amazing, and we soaked it up for quite a while.
For everyone out there that likes to tout how strong the SEC is from top to bottom - well, so is the Pac-10 (with the notable exception of WSU, although they won today too).
cartman
09-19-2009, 08:01 PM
After swearing they wouldn't this season, the Texas coaches bust out the wildcat formation, and pick up 34 yards on the play.
Atocep
09-19-2009, 08:04 PM
14-0 WVU. Devine breaks about a 60 yard run.
Atocep
09-19-2009, 08:05 PM
I'm way more nervous than usual for this one. Feels like it could be a turning point, one way or the other, for the Stewart reign. I think he can be successful either way, but I feel like Stew can win over a lot of fans with a big win here.
Auburn fans have been obnoxious the past week. I'm hoping WVU beats the hell out of them. More so than usual.
44-14 Seminoles are whooping BYU
JonInMiddleGA
09-19-2009, 08:24 PM
And UGAg takes the lead 24-21 a minute before halftime. This looks more like a WAC Eastern Division game than an SEC game. Two really shitty defenses with a few good athletes that can occasionally make plays.
Swaggs
09-19-2009, 08:26 PM
What was the line on the FSU/BYU game?
JonInMiddleGA
09-19-2009, 08:29 PM
What was the line on the FSU/BYU game?
Anywhere from 6.5 to 9.5
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Swaggs
09-19-2009, 08:38 PM
Syracuse is beating Northwestern, 27-21.
Swaggs
09-19-2009, 08:51 PM
Northwestern scores on a highlight reel play -- screen pass to the WR, back to the QB for another screen (w/ about half of the O-line in front of him) for about a 30-yard TD.
CU Tiger
09-19-2009, 08:56 PM
Just got in from the Clemson BC game...
what a mess play stopped twice for lightening in the area.
Well it looks like Clemson has a DEFENSE, a Kicker (which is actually a first in a while) and a CJ Spiller, and not much else. Thankfully that was enough today.
not sure who got to watch it but Spiller had ANOTHER 75+ yard kick return TD and moved within 350 yards of the all time ACC all purpose yard record, not bad for a kid who never started a game until this his senior season.
BC who came into the game 5th in the nation in total offense was held to -2 in the first half and 55 for the game.....
wet, rainy and fun...what else happened in the college world today?
BYU 14
09-19-2009, 09:04 PM
44-14 Seminoles are whooping BYU
Painful, we got our asses kicked up front, which pretty much exposed our below average speed in the secondary.......This is like the A&M Bowl game when Detmer won the Heisman.
The other problem is we faced our first mobile QB today and as I feared that is still an issue for us. Fuck what a debacle!! Somebody please hide my Razor blades and take my shoelaces.
JonInMiddleGA
09-19-2009, 09:04 PM
Mallet's 4th TD pass puts Arkansas back in front 28-27 just inside 10 mins left in Q3.
JonInMiddleGA
09-19-2009, 09:05 PM
Painful, we got our asses kicked up front, which pretty much exposed our below average speed in the secondary.......This is like the A&M Bowl game when Detmer won the Heisman.
The other problem is we faced our first mobile QB today and as I feared that is still an issue for us. Fuck what a debacle!! Somebody please hide my Razor blades and take my shoelaces.
Checking the box score, I think you left out the -5 in turnovers, I'm guessing that made a difference in the margin if not the outcome.
We looked good but our defense is awful.
54-28
JonInMiddleGA
09-19-2009, 09:12 PM
Georgia answers back with an easy passing drive & TD, 34-28 UGAg after a 2-point conversion was called back for holding, just under 8 mins left in Q3.
No defense in sight for either team really, although Arkansas was missing a starting CB who left with a hamstring on the first play of the drive.
Swaggs
09-19-2009, 09:16 PM
Cincy beats Oregon State (@OSU), 28-10.
I think Cincy is really underreated in the polls. Maybe this will give them a bit of a boost.
cartman
09-19-2009, 09:19 PM
Who knew that the loins of Nate Newton could produce a svelte, speedy running back?
JonInMiddleGA
09-19-2009, 09:22 PM
Little trick play where the receiver falls down starting the route then gets up wide open gets Arkansas down to the 2. Two plays later it's 3rd & goal at the one after an offside. Finally score on play action, Mallet's 5th of the game for a new Arkansas record. PAT good and it's 35-34 with 5:15 left in Q3
JonInMiddleGA
09-19-2009, 09:29 PM
Cox gets his 4th TD pass for Georgia to a wide open TE, Georgia back in front 42-35, this time the 2 point conversion try came from the 8 after a delay of game, no matter AJ Green was wide open, now 4:34 left in Q3.
It's like watching offenses run shell drills, and honestly Arkansas' defense looks even worse than Georgia's as the latter can at least stop the run a little bit.
Blade6119
09-19-2009, 09:29 PM
Mizzou dominated today, up 42-0 at the half, and now Arizona State is looking to follow up their 50-3 win with another drubbing. So far they have had 1 drive, 14 points, and are so far looking more like the 10 win team of 07 then the 5 win team of 08
Mizzou B-ball fan
09-19-2009, 09:40 PM
Mizzou dominated today, up 42-0 at the half........
Was at the game today. Gabbert is just ridiculous at this point given his age and experience. I see all these comments in these threads about QB's throwing away games. We've had Brad Smith, Chase Daniel, and now Blaine Gabbert over the past 8 years. It's not wonder why we've had such a good run over those years.
Gabbert now has a 68% completion rate. 8 TD's, 0 INT's.
VT fans have to be relieved to squeak by Nebraska. That's a middle of the pack Big 12 team and they just barely beat them at home. They should have performed much better against that team.
JonInMiddleGA
09-19-2009, 09:41 PM
Arkansas settles for a FG, closes to within 42-38 with 2 mins left in Q3.
Swaggs
09-19-2009, 09:42 PM
Syracuse hits a last second FG to knock off NW, 37-34.
Today is looking like a good day for the Big East. So, far Louisville is the only loser, dropping a tight one @Kentucky by 4. UConn, Syracuse, and Cincy all have wins over BCS conference teams (Baylor, Northwestern, Oregon State) and WVU is up by 1 @ Auburn at the half.
Cincy's win aside, nothing too great, but these are the types of wins that make the conference look better overall. Hopefully, WVU can come out fighting in the 2nd half vs Auburn.
JonInMiddleGA
09-19-2009, 10:01 PM
Georgia may have 'em now, 5th TD pass of the night for Cox makes it 49-38 with 10:46 to play.
Galaxy
09-19-2009, 10:04 PM
Tech needs to make some adjustments to stop this pressure.
Galaxy
09-19-2009, 10:06 PM
Texas got away with a helmet-to-helmet penalty.
tarcone
09-19-2009, 10:11 PM
Syracuse plays a lot of big 10 teams. Are they angling for that 12th spot?
Swaggs
09-19-2009, 10:14 PM
Syracuse plays a lot of big 10 teams. Are they angling for that 12th spot?
I'm sure they wouldn't decline the offer, but I doubt that they are actively angling for it.
JonInMiddleGA
09-19-2009, 10:27 PM
Georgia gets a FG with 2:01 left, goes back in front by 11 at 52-41.
MizzouRah
09-19-2009, 10:29 PM
Was at the game today. Gabbert is just ridiculous at this point given his age and experience. I see all these comments in these threads about QB's throwing away games. We've had Brad Smith, Chase Daniel, and now Blaine Gabbert over the past 8 years. It's not wonder why we've had such a good run over those years.
Gabbert now has a 68% completion rate. 8 TD's, 0 INT's.
VT fans have to be relieved to squeak by Nebraska. That's a middle of the pack Big 12 team and they just barely beat them at home. They should have performed much better against that team.
Me too.. although Furman should have had an INT.
I REALLY like the freshman Kendial Lawrence at tailback.. he's going to be good.
Atocep
09-19-2009, 10:38 PM
Auburn takes their first lead of the game. WVU is making mistakes and Auburn is making them pay.
cartman
09-19-2009, 10:44 PM
woot! Hook' em!!! A little closer than I'd like, but a solid double digit win nonetheless.
Izulde
09-19-2009, 10:47 PM
The secondary can go fuck itself.
Fire the DB coach and the D coordinator kthx.
Swaggs
09-19-2009, 10:48 PM
Damn... WVU imploding.
Need the D to come up with a good series here.
Atocep
09-19-2009, 10:54 PM
Wow, I can't believe that play wasn't overturned.
Izulde
09-19-2009, 10:55 PM
Arkansas looks like they'll be fun to watch this year.
Our offense will be fun to watch, yeah.
But our defense? Shit, our defense looked worse than it did last year and it was terrible last year, especially the secondary.
It was supposed to be improved this season, but you sure as hell wouldn't know it by tonight's game. :banghead:
Atocep
09-19-2009, 11:10 PM
Looks like Auburn will take this one.
What I learned today is this WVU team is better than last season's. There's no doubt in my mind about that. Depth is a major issue for this team, though, and the D-Line is going to wear down if they're left on the field too long.
Bill Stewart will probably get some heat for this, but I'm confident the program is headed in the right direction. Recruiting is great, the offense is exciting and will help with recruiting, and Casteel is a really good DC. I've said it a couple times, I think this team's year is '11. 8-9 win seasons this year and next.
Swaggs
09-19-2009, 11:18 PM
Looks like Auburn will take this one.
What I learned today is this WVU team is better than last season's. There's no doubt in my mind about that. Depth is a major issue for this team, though, and the D-Line is going to wear down if they're left on the field too long.
Bill Stewart will probably get some heat for this, but I'm confident the program is headed in the right direction. Recruiting is great, the offense is exciting and will help with recruiting, and Casteel is a really good DC. I've said it a couple times, I think this team's year is '11. 8-9 win seasons this year and next.
We turned it over 4 times last week and 6 times this week. Tough to win games with that handicap, but we're almost good enough to do it against quality teams. It's gonna be a long 11-days before we play again, but I think the schedule lines up to get us to 5-1. That's why this one hurts -- win this, I think we would have been in great shape to hit 6-0 and be in the top 10 for the meat of our schedule.
Oh well -- good fight in a tough venue. Hopefully, Auburn is a legit team -- their offense is pretty good, but their D is pretty pedestrian, IMO.
Matthean
09-19-2009, 11:44 PM
Cincy beats Oregon State (@OSU), 28-10.
I think Cincy is really underreated in the polls. Maybe this will give them a bit of a boost.
They might be the one team to go undefeated before their bowl game that neither them, or that aspect gets talked about. They have some challenging games coming up, but they could do it. Let's say Texas, Florida, and Cincy are sitting there at the end and you know Cincy is going to get the shaft as long as Florida, or Texas don't have two loses.
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BYU 14
09-20-2009, 12:09 AM
Checking the box score, I think you left out the -5 in turnovers, I'm guessing that made a difference in the margin if not the outcome.
Oh yeah, that toom considering two were in the FSU red zone and 1 went the other way for 6.....a stellar effort all around. First loss at home in 3 years as well.
Warhammer
09-20-2009, 12:10 AM
Probably a stupid question, but why is Weis on the hotseat? Is it just about how much he is getting paid? The program certainly seems like it is headed in the right direction. Heck, unlike last year, the offense is impressive, they have been recruiting well, and if they had a decent defense would be a solid top 25 team. The problem they seem to have is their defense is a seive and unless they are scoring every possession they will be in trouble.
Probably a stupid question, but why is Weis on the hotseat? Is it just about how much he is getting paid? The program certainly seems like it is headed in the right direction. Heck, unlike last year, the offense is impressive, they have been recruiting well, and if they had a decent defense would be a solid top 25 team. The problem they seem to have is their defense is a seive and unless they are scoring every possession they will be in trouble.
I think you just answered your own question.
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