NFL Week 3!

[stevew]

I dunno what the big news is this week. I guess Marion Barber is hurt or something. Crabtree is still sitting at home.

I don't think it's a must win for the Titans, yet, but at 0-2 they gotta start doing some work.

The Browns play the Ravens. I think that makes Maghee, Rice and McLain all viable fantasy options. I mean, they made Buckhalter look like college Reggie Bush last week.

[M GO BLUE!!!]

If Crabby sits out & re-enters the draft, is he drafted in Rd 1?

I'd love to see him drafted in mid 2nd & demand top $$$.

[albionmoonlight]

Saints at Bills. Assuming that Trent Edwards does not get trapped under something before game time, it will be the first time this season that the Saints play a QB who has started an NFL game.

And, as a side note, you know that two small market teams are playing when they are both East Coast teams and the NFL schedule still sticks them with a 4:00 game.

[Northwood_DK]

If Crabby sits out & re-enters the draft, is he drafted in Rd 1?

I'd love to see him drafted in mid 2nd & demand top $$$.

Under normal circumstances there is no way he would have a chance to make up the money he losses sitting out this year.

Then it seams that nobody really knows because of the possibility for an uncapped year. Found this info on Crabtree from Adam Schefter.

If Goodell did away with the rookie salary cap in the spring, one of the players that would be most directly impacted would be holdout wide receiver Michael Crabtree. Some league executives believe that Crabtree's situation could turn into one straight out of baseball, similar to what Stephen Strasburg went through with the Washington Nationals. Strasburg told the team what he wanted, and teams around baseball knew it. Some believe that, if Crabtree were to re-enter a draft without a rookie pool, he could tell teams his price and essentially tell teams not to bother drafting him unless they're willing to meet his demands. Plenty would have to happen to reach that point, but it's not inconceivable that it will.

Really looking forward to the Vikings-49ers game this week. Adrian Peterson vs. Patrick Willis will be great to watch.

[wade moore]

And, as a side note, you know that two small market teams are playing when they are both East Coast teams and the NFL schedule still sticks them with a 4:00 game.

Not sure you've got an argument here - Redskins @ Giants was at 4:00 in week 1.

[Butter]

Bengals/Steelers... the Steelers have not been able to run the ball, and for once the Bengals actually have a defense for this game though they are not the pass rushing machine that the leaky Packers line made them out to be. I'm expecting 13-10 or something like that, and hoping against a 28-9 type Steelers domination.

I'm also hoping that someone proves the Ravens to be a fluke, because they just kinda piss me off generally speaking.

[albionmoonlight]

Not sure you've got an argument here - Redskins @ Giants was at 4:00 in week 1.

I stand corrected. The lesson, as always, is I have no idea how the NFL decides what games to play and when to play them and where to show them. It's like advanced calculus to figure out sometimes.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

I was excited to see the Chiefs/Eagles game this week to see Maclin, but it doesn't look like he's getting a lot of action. Hopefully this is the week he plays more.

[wade moore]

I stand corrected. The lesson, as always, is I have no idea how the NFL decides what games to play and when to play them and where to show them. It's like advanced calculus to figure out sometimes.

Now THAT logic I can get behind ;).

To be fair - your logic may be right. And they just want that game stacked against some other big national game, like the WAS @ NYG game was. I have no idea.

[Dr. Sak]

I was excited to see the Chiefs/Eagles game this week to see Maclin, but it doesn't look like he's getting a lot of action. Hopefully this is the week he plays more.

With DeSean Jackson banged up and also Curtis, I bet he gets more touches this week.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

With DeSean Jackson banged up and also Curtis, I bet he gets more touches this week.

That would be awesome. Thanks for the info. Hopefully he gets a 100 yard game and the Chiefs win by 1. :)

[RomaGoth]

Bengals/Steelers... the Steelers have not been able to run the ball, and for once the Bengals actually have a defense for this game though they are not the pass rushing machine that the leaky Packers line made them out to be. I'm expecting 13-10 or something like that, and hoping against a 28-9 type Steelers domination.

I'm also hoping that someone proves the Ravens to be a fluke, because they just kinda piss me off generally speaking.

The Steelers are pissing me off with their pitiful offensive line and no running game. They rely too much on their defense and Ben. More balance is needed. This will be a close game, and I would not at all be surprised to see Cinci win it.

[Honolulu_Blue]

I will be going to the Lions-Redskins game. Only because I have free ticket. And it will be in a suite.

It's going to be some bad, bad football.

[Kodos]

If Crabby sits out & re-enters the draft, is he drafted in Rd 1?

I'd love to see him drafted in mid 2nd & demand top $$$.

I know it would never happen, but I would love to see him go undrafted. Too many douches in the league already.

[Lathum]

Giants go on the road to Tampa. A little worried about a letdown on the road here, but the best QB in the known universe will get it done.

I would like to see Jacobs get on track. considering Manningham and Smith both had over 100 yards last week the Bucs will have to change their gameplan a bit so that should open things up for the running game.

After Tampa comes KC and Oakland at home, so get past this game and it looks like 5-0.

[Kodos]

He's not even the best QB in his family.

[Lathum]

He's not even the best QB in his family.

Please, Peyton and Archie are hacks.

Took Peyton 9 years to win a title, Eli did it in 4.

[Kodos]

You, sir, are a complete homer football moron. No way is Eli better than Peyton. Opposing teams do not fear Eli.

[Lathum]

You, sir, are a complete football moron. No way is Eli better than Peyton. Opposing teams do not fear Eli.

You, sir, are a complete moron if you don't see the sheer awesomness of Eli. While not leading epic 2 minute drills he is delivering babies and curing swine flu.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

You, sir, are a complete moron if you don't see the sheer awesomness of Eli. While not leading epic 2 minute drills he is delivering babies and curing swine flu.

Not impressed. Now if he was curing bacon, then I'd be impressed. :)

[Lathum]

Not impressed. Now if he was curing bacon, then I'd be impressed. :)

he invented bacon.

[Ronnie Dobbs2]

I like how Lathum left open the possibility of the existence of superior QBs in as-yet-undiscovered corners of the universe.

[Lathum]

I like how Lathum left open the possibility of the existence of superior QBs in as-yet-undiscovered corners of the universe.

anything is possible, however unlikely.

And I edited that for added sarcasm, because apparently sarcasm doesn't translate well over the interwebs.

[RomaGoth]

I will be going to the Lions-Redskins game. Only because I have free ticket. And it will be in a suite.

It's going to be some bad, bad football.

I am hoping you will have a lot of alcohol at hand. I mean, A LOT.

[DataKing]

Looking for a Bears win against Seattle this week, with or without Hasselbeck. I'm also looking for Matt Forte and the running game to finally get on track.

[Lathum]

I will be going to the Lions-Redskins game. Only because I have free ticket. And it will be in a suite.

It's going to be some bad, bad football.

You may witness history, they could get it done this week.

[TroyF]

Outside of the Broncos/Raiders game (for obvious reasons), the game that interests me the most is the Falcons/Patriots.

This is a chance for the Falcons to fully announce that they've arrived. Beating the Dolphins and the Panthers is nice and all, but you go on the road and beat the Patriots, you've done something. As for the Patriots, I still believe they have a ton of holes on defense, but more than that I want to see how they respond to a defeat. This is a team that's lost back to back games once since 2003.

The 49ers/Vikings, Titans/Jets and Panthers/Cowboys are all interesting games to me as well.

[Alan T]

I'm excited to see the Falcons up here this week. Really looking forward to this week's game as I think the Patriots defense has looked suspect when a team is willing to make good decisions against them. I am looking forward to seeing what the Falcons offense can do.

The only thing I fear is that the Falcons defense is not that great and we end up with a 35-31 type game where the team with the ball last wins.

[spleen1015]

Looking forward to seeing Detroit break the streak against the Redskins.

[M GO BLUE!!!]

Looking forward to seeing Detroit break the streak against the Redskins.

Which streak? The overall losing streak, or the one where they haven't beaten the Redskins since 1823, when they were know as the Portsmouth Wapoles & Boston Curmudgeons?

[Kodos]

I hope the Falcons wear their classic red helmets with the old logo. Those are sharp!

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Which streak? The overall losing streak, or the one where they haven't beaten the Redskins since 1823, when they were know as the Portsmouth Wapoles & Boston Curmudgeons?

You serious, Clark?

[Alan T]

I hope the Falcons wear their classic red helmets with the old logo. Those are sharp!


I keep trying to explain to my wife that I need a Steve Bartkowski throw back Falcons jersey for Christmas. She gets this glazed look over her eyes and just starts mumbling.

[M GO BLUE!!!]

I keep trying to explain to my wife that I need a Steve Bartkowski throw back Falcons jersey for Christmas. She gets this glazed look over her eyes and just starts mumbling.

Sounds a lot like Marion Campbell.

[RomaGoth]

I keep trying to explain to my wife that I need a Steve Bartkowski throw back Falcons jersey for Christmas. She gets this glazed look over her eyes and just starts mumbling.

You could try and trade in a Vick jersey instead...

[Kodos]

I keep trying to explain to my wife that I need a Steve Bartkowski throw back Falcons jersey for Christmas. She gets this glazed look over her eyes and just starts mumbling.

A Billy "White Shoes" Johnson throwback would be pretty sweet too.


I think my first sports poster featured good ol' Steve Bartkowski.

[Fonzie]

My Burning Question: How many more sacks can Aaron Rodgers endure before he develops either: 1) a disabling anxiety disorder; and/or 2) a severely broken body.

[Dr. Sak]

My Burning Question: How many more sacks can Aaron Rodgers endure before he develops either: 1) a disabling anxiety disorder; and/or 2) a severely broken body.

The same as the licks it takes to get to the center of a tootsie roll pop.

[Fonzie]

The same as the licks it takes to get to the center of a tootsie roll pop.

Three?

We could then expect his season to end in about the second quarter of the Packers' upcoming game with the lowly Rams.

Sad. The guy had so much potential.

[RomaGoth]

Three?

We could then expect his season to end in about the second quarter of the Packers' upcoming game with the lowly Rams.

Sad. The guy had so much potential.

Colin Cowherd rates him only slightly better than Tony Romo...

[Galaril]

I dunno what the big news is this week. I guess Marion Barber is hurt or something. Crabtree is still sitting at home.

I don't think it's a must win for the Titans, yet, but at 0-2 they gotta start doing some work.

The Browns play the Ravens. I think that makes Maghee, Rice and McLain all viable fantasy options. I mean, they made Buckhalter look like college Reggie Bush last week.

Well considering only 1.6% of teams that start 0-3 have EVER made the playoffs going back to 1960 this is pretty near a must win. They loss this one they have games away @ Jags ,Colts @home and @NE. It looks like that lmeans 2-4 at best 0-6 at the worst which equals season over.

[albionmoonlight]

I remember when McCarthy was offensive coordinator of the Saints. He was great at drawing up plays 1, but was stubborn as a mule. He struck you as the kind of guy who would rather lose than change his system. Kind of a junior Mike Martz.

And, with that in mind, I feel for Rogers. Clearly, the Packers need to change their system to account for the fact that young QBs who get sacked a bunch become David Carr. But I can see McCarthy convincing himself that his plays are genuis and that the problem is his players not executing. And the thing is, he might even be right. But a better coach would accept the reality of his players and adapt his system to it. Unless he has matured a bit, McCarthy is not that coach. Bet the over on Rogers' career concussions before Vegas catches on.

1. I mean, the guy made Aaron freakin' Brooks look like a decent QB for a couple of years. He has mad play calling skills.

[Kodos]

So, if Carolina continues to lose this season, will it be Bill Cowher at the reins in 2010?

[albionmoonlight]

So, if Carolina continues to lose this season, will it be Bill Cowher at the reins in 2010?

Honestly, I think that it will depend on if Carolina has a good enough draft choice to go QB. I think that Cowher spent enough time in Pittsburgh with bad QBs that he would not want to go through that again. If he can coach with Big Ben again (McCoy, Bradford), he would probably jump at the chance. If he has to live through Kordell Stewart and Tommy Maddox again (Jake Delhomme), he'll say thanks but no. Just my 2c.

[RomaGoth]

So, if Carolina continues to lose this season, will it be Bill Cowher at the reins in 2010?

Posted in your thread before seeing this comment. I guess that makes me clairvoyant or something....?

[Thomkal]

You may witness history, they could get it done this week.

You could also witness Jim Zorn getting fired right there on the field if they lose to the Lions. :D

[Thomkal]

Honestly, I think that it will depend on if Carolina has a good enough draft choice to go QB. I think that Cowher spent enough time in Pittsburgh with bad QBs that he would not want to go through that again. If he can coach with Big Ben again (McCoy, Bradford), he would probably jump at the chance. If he has to live through Kordell Stewart and Tommy Maddox again (Jake Delhomme), he'll say thanks but no. Just my 2c.

well they have no 1st rounder in next year's draft I believe thanks to that stupid trade they did with SF during this year's draft. Cowher seems a logical choice for Carolina, but I was surprised when he returned to TV this year and he seems to enjoy doing it.

[RomaGoth]

You could also witness Jim Zorn getting fired right there on the field if they lose to the Lions. :D

This would be comedy gold. Watching Snyder look at the exit, point his finger at it, and Zorn plodding towards it with his head down in shame.

[fantom1979]

You could also witness Jim Zorn getting fired right there on the field if they lose to the Lions. :D

If he gets fired on the field, does he still get to take the team plane back to D.C. or does he have to find his own method of transportation?

Its about a 7 day walk, so I hope he gets to ride in the plane

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Ford Field
2000 Brush St
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172. Turn left at Carroll Ave
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173. Continue on E W Hwy/Ethan Allen Ave/MD-410
Continue to follow E W Hwy/MD-410
1.4 mi
174. Slight right at MD-410
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175. Continue straight onto Ager Rd
148 ft
176. Continue straight to stay on Ager Rd
1.3 mi
177. Turn left at Hamilton St
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178. Slight right at Gallatin St
335 ft
179. Slight right at 40th Pl
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180. Slight left at Crittenden St
262 ft
181. Turn right at 41st St
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182. Turn left at 41st Pl
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183. Continue on Charles L Armentrout Dr
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184. Turn right at Baltimore Ave/US-1
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185. Slight left at Annapolis Rd/MD-202
Continue to follow MD-202
4.7 mi
186. Turn right at Brightseat Rd
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187. Continue on Redskins Rd
0.4 mi
188. Slight right to stay on Redskins Rd
171 ft
189. At Fedex Way, take the 3rd exit onto Summerfield Blvd
Destination will be on the right
0.5 mi

Fed Ex Field
1600 Fedex Way
Landover, MD 20785-4534

[RomaGoth]

If he takes a wrong turn he could end up in Albuquerque. Or hit by a bus.

[DaddyTorgo]

Former Cowboys legend Tony Dorsett spoke out on Monday against Tony Romo (http://www.fannation.com/tags/show_tag/1739) and his play at quarterback. He joined Fox Sports Radio to talk about how Tony Romo (http://www.fannation.com/tags/show_tag/1739) is not worthy of all the accolades he receives. "Well, for one thing, I don't know why on God's earth Tony Romo (http://www.fannation.com/tags/show_tag/1739) has been anointed a superstar in the National Football League. Tony is very young in his career. Not to say you can't be young in your career and be a superstar because you've got one up there in Minnesota in Adrian Peterson (http://www.fannation.com/tags/show_tag/7788). But the thing is this: you have a guy who hasn't done much and quarterbacks in the National Football League, most of them go through this growing curve. He hasn't gone through that growing curve, but he was anointed this great player all of a sudden."
sportsradiointerviews.com (http://sportsradiointerviews.com/2009/09/22/tony-dorsett-on-tony-romo-he-hasnt-done-anything-really-in-the-national-football-league-to-deserve-all-the-recognition-and-visibility-that-hes-gotten-so-far/)

[JonInMiddleGA]

It think the most relevant thing about the Dorsett (non)story is the phrase "former Cowboys legend". This seems for all the world like a guy missing the spotlight trying to get a few minutes back & the best he could manage was FSR time instead of the invite to Dancing With the Stars I suspect he really wanted.

[MacroGuru]

I'm pissed, I travel on Sunday to Oakland so I will be missing the Saints game and I have to sell my tickets...that blows.

[Kodos]

It think the most relevant thing about the Dorsett (non)story is the phrase "former Cowboys legend". This seems for all the world like a guy missing the spotlight trying to get a few minutes back & the best he could manage was FSR time instead of the invite to Dancing With the Stars I suspect he really wanted.

At least he didn't fumble this opportunity.


Edit: My Dad and I always enjoyed joking that there was a special Tony Dorsett ball that came with a handle due to his penchant for fumbling.

[larrymcg421]

Romo gets attention because he was an undrafted FA and after 3 seasons he has a 94.2 QB rating. Anyone else who put up those kind of numbers in their first three seasons as a starter would be justly praised, but Romo gets shit on for some reason.

[Lathum]

Romo gets attention because he was an undrafted FA and after 3 seasons he has a 94.2 QB rating. Anyone else who put up those kind of numbers in their first three seasons as a starter would be justly praised, but Romo gets shit on for some reason.

Probably because every time he plays in a big game he blows it.

[Kodos]

Oh (fumbled) snap!

[larrymcg421]

LOL, we're basing this on two postseason games. Great sample size!

[Jughead Spock]

Romo was praised and overpraised for a long time. Honeymoon's over, that's all. Won't be the first QB that has to deal with pressure about winning the big one.

[MikeVic]

Dammit, we have to protect Romo! While he's on my fantasy team.

[MrDNA]

After the first two weeks, my current hope for the Browns is that the Lions win a game before they play the Browns so we won't be the first team they beat. Yep, that's it. Enjoy my money, Mr. Lerner!

[larrymcg421]

But winning the big one is such a stupid criteria. As I pointed out a while back, Eli had only led the Giants to 3 points through 3 quarters in his Superbowl. What would the average expected score be for any other team vs. the Patriots that year? I mean, he could have played exactly the same and the Giants be down 30-3 with Jared Lorenzen warming up. It's great that he led that final drive, but he was lucky he even had that chance.

Jim Kelly is a "winner" if Norwood's kick sails through. Tom Brady is a "loser" who "can't get it done" if Viniateri misses all those kicks. Brett Favre is a "winner" because one year in his career with the league's #1 defense backing him, he did not choke.

Labeling a guy with a 94.2 career QB rating as a loser because he failed in his first two postseason games is ridiculous.

[Lathum]

LOL, we're basing this on two postseason games. Great sample size!

I would say Sunday night was a big game and he choked big time. And what about that embarrassment to end the season vs. the Eagles last year? 183 yeards, no TD's, 1 int, 2 fumbles lost. Or week 16 last year against the Ravens, threw 2 picks at home and lose. @ losses in a row to end the season when they had a chance to clinch. Instead they go 9-7. So thats 5 big games he didn't get the job done.

And when you play QB for the Dallas Cowboys you are judged on playoff performances.

[Lathum]

Eli had only led the Giants to 3 points through 3 quarters in his Superbowl. What would the average expected score be for any other team vs. the Patriots that year? I mean, he could have played exactly the same and the Giants be down 30-3 with Jared Lorenzen warming up. It's great that he led that final drive, but he was lucky he even had that chance.
.

This is so incorrect.

Part of the reason why the Pats only have 7 points through 3 quarters is because Eli didn't make stupid mistakes and put his defense in bad spots.

Even I wouldn't be so dumb as to say the defense isn't the main reason the Giants won, but Eli stepped up in the 4th quarter, and where Romo would have fumbled or thrown a pick Eli led his team on a TD drive.

[Scoobz0202]

Or week 16 last year against the Ravens, threw 2 picks at home and lose. @ losses in a row to end the season when they had a chance to clinch. Instead they go 9-7. So thats 5 big games he didn't get the job done.


Or week 15 against the Giants where he threw for close to 250 yards with two touchdowns and zero interceptions.

[larrymcg421]

I would say Sunday night was a big game and he choked big time. And what about that embarrassment to end the season vs. the Eagles last year? 183 yeards, no TD's, 1 int, 2 fumbles lost. Or week 16 last year against the Ravens, threw 2 picks at home and lose. @ losses in a row to end the season when they had a chance to clinch. Instead they go 9-7. So thats 5 big games he didn't get the job done.

And when you play QB for the Dallas Cowboys you are judged on playoff performances.

LOL you are so delusional. Counting a week 2 game as a "big game" has got to be one of the most bogus ways to support an argument I've seen.

I mean, if you're going to do that, why don't we look at his week 2 game against Philadelphia last year, when he went 21-30-312-3-1? Or the three game winning stretch against the NFC East last year (with wins @ PHI, @ NYG) where he threw 11 TD's and essentially clinched the division? And the week 15 game against the Giants last year is not a big game? I guess that wasn't as big as this year's week 2 game!

[Lathum]

LOL you are so delusional. Counting a week 2 game as a "big game" has got to be one of the most bogus ways to support an argument I've seen.

I mean, if you're going to do that, why don't we look at his week 2 game against Philadelphia last year, when he went 21-30-312-3-1? Or the three game winning stretch against the NFC East last year (with wins @ PHI, @ NYG) where he threw 11 TD's and essentially clinched the division? And the week 15 game against the Giants last year is not a big game? I guess that wasn't as big as this year's week 2 game!

You are insane if you don't think Romo and that whole organization didn't think Sunday's game was a big game. If you don't think there was added pressure you are out of your mind.

People will perceive Romo as a failure until he wins a playoff game because he plays for Dallas and that is what is expected.

[larrymcg421]

This is so incorrect.

Part of the reason why the Pats only have 7 points through 3 quarters is because Eli didn't make stupid mistakes and put his defense in bad spots.

Uh, defenses didn't need to be in bad spots that year for the Patriots offense to rape them. For a relevant example, see the game the Cowboys played against them in the regular season, Romo only threw 1 pick (same as Eli in the Superbowl), but the defense gave up 48 points. In 2008, any time you punted against the Patriots, you put your defense in a bad position.

Even I wouldn't be so dumb as to say the defense isn't the main reason the Giants won, but Eli stepped up in the 4th quarter, and where Romo would have fumbled or thrown a pick Eli led his team on a TD drive.

And what I'm saying is that he could have played exactly the same and lost 42-17.

[larrymcg421]

You are insane if you don't think Romo and that whole organization didn't think Sunday's game was a big game. If you don't think there was added pressure you are out of your mind.

There wasn't added pressure in any of the other games I listed? If you're seriously counting this season's week 2 game as a big game, but not last season's week 15 game, then you're just pretending to have a rational discussion here.

People will perceive Romo as a failure until he wins a playoff game because he plays for Dallas and that is what is expected.

Huh? Who gives a fuck who he plays for? I'm just talking about whether the guy deserves to get shit on as much as he does. And I think it's ridiculous to shit on a QB who has three straight seasons of 90+ QB rating just because he failed in the first two postseason games of his career.

[Lathum]

There wasn't added pressure in any of the other games I listed? If you're seriously counting this season's week 2 game as a big game, but not last season's week 15 game, then you're just pretending to have a rational discussion here.



Huh? Who gives a fuck who he plays for? I'm just talking about whether the guy deserves to get shit on as much as he does. And I think it's ridiculous to shit on a QB who has three straight seasons of 90+ QB rating just because he failed in the first two postseason games of his career.

There certainly was added pressure, Romo can be very good at times.

And you can't not discuss who he plays for, when you are the Dallas Cowboys QB you are going to be under a microscope.

[JS19]

And what I'm saying is that he could have played exactly the same and lost 42-17.


But they didn't, Eli was put in a position to lead his team down the field and win the game, which he did. Obviously this all hypothetical, but if Romo was in that position, chances are the Cowboys wouldn't have a shot in hell of winning it.

[larrymcg421]

There certainly was added pressure, Romo can be very good at times.

And you can't not discuss who he plays for, when you are the Dallas Cowboys QB you are going to be under a microscope.

But that's entirely irrelevant to my point of whether he deserves the criticism he gets. It just explains why he gets it.

[larrymcg421]

But they didn't, Eli was put in a position to lead his team down the field and win the game, which he did. Obviously this all hypothetical, but if Romo was in that position, chances are the Cowboys wouldn't have a shot in hell of winning it.

And I'm saying that after 3 years, I think it's a little early to be so certain about that. After all, Eli himself was dreadful (much worse than Romo) in his first two postseason games.

[JS19]

Would you agree, however, that as of right now, if Romo was put in that situation, or any kind of big time pressure spot, you can't say you would feel confident he's gonna get it done. I'll admit, as much as I dislike Romo and the Cowboys, you can't really argue with his numbers (I should add, I'm not really a numbers guy, I'll take the guy who can get it done when it counts), and he still has time to develop into a complete QB, but as of today, I, along with the majority of America (according to the sportsnation polls), am certain Romo can't get it done when it counts.

[RomaGoth]

Jim Kelly is a "winner" if Norwood's kick sails through. Tom Brady is a "loser" who "can't get it done" if Viniateri misses all those kicks. Brett Favre is a "winner" because one year in his career with the league's #1 defense backing him, he did not choke.

Kelly didn't lose the game for his team by imploding, it was Norwood's fault. Same thing with Brady. If Viniateri misses those kicks, he is the one that gets blamed, not Brady.

LOL you are so delusional. Counting a week 2 game as a "big game" has got to be one of the most bogus ways to support an argument I've seen.

This season's week 2 game was a big game because of the new stadium being opened up by Jerry Jones. Don't kid yourself, this was a HUGE game for the Cowboys, and you have to know that Jones is quite pissed that the unveiling of his legacy (he admitted as much) was tainted by a loss. A loss that could, and should, be placed on the shoulders of Romo (the defense didn't look very either though).

Huh? Who gives a fuck who he plays for?

It makes a big difference actually. Do you really think that Romo would get the same attention, positive or negative, if he played for Seattle? Or Tampa Bay? What about Jacksonville? Some teams, and subsequently their players, are held to higher standards and more is expected of them. Dallas is one of those teams.

I'm just talking about whether the guy deserves to get shit on as much as he does. And I think it's ridiculous to shit on a QB who has three straight seasons of 90+ QB rating just because he failed in the first two postseason games of his career.

I am not sure how Romo is being "shit" on as you have mentioned several times. I see it as him being justly criticized for his poor performance when it matters. Big games, playoff games, etc..

He received a lot of credit before he actually did anything, and now his dues need to be paid. I think he can still succeed, but I would not rate him in the top 10 QB's in the NFL right now.

[JS19]

Tuck has a partially torn labrum, big deal?

[Kodos]

A partially torn lathum?!? :eek:

[Honolulu_Blue]

After the first two weeks, my current hope for the Browns is that the Lions win a game before they play the Browns so we won't be the first team they beat. Yep, that's it. Enjoy my money, Mr. Lerner!

After the first two weeks, this is also my current hope. Yep, that's it. Enjoy my money, Mr. Ford!

[Lathum]

I blame Tony Romo

[TCY Junkie]

I turned on the Cowboys and Cardinals game last year. I was all ready to watch the Cowboys win, then I heard the announcer say before the game the atmosphere was like a playoff game. I turned off the tv.

[DaddyTorgo]

I turned on the Cowboys and Cardinals game last year. I was all ready to watch the Cowboys win, then I heard the announcer say before the game the atmosphere was like a playoff game. I turned off the tv.

:lol:

funnier cuz you're from Texas. Otherwise it'd just be "meh"

[RomaGoth]

I was turned on by the Cowboys and Cardinals game last year. I was all ready to watch the Cowboys win, then I heard the announcer say before the game the atmosphere was like a playoff game. I was turned off by the tv.

fixed that for you

[JS19]

Well, apparently Tuck's shoulder is not nearly as big a deal as Phillips' knee, as he's shelved for the season. That's a pretty big blow, really looked like he was poised to take his game to the next level this yr and be a big playmaker on defense, not to mention that Ross and Dockery have been out thus far and, from what i read, aren't gonna be ready this weekend, either.

[Lathum]

Lions game is blacked out

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Lions game is blacked out

Probably best for the mental health of the citizens of Detroit. They have enough to deal with right now.

[gstelmack]

Bill Simmons on the Detroit blackout with the interesting point that the blackout rules may start backfiring on the NFL:

Thanks to the blackout, Detroit fans now get treated to a much better game: Niners-Vikings. For gamblers, fantasy addicts and general football addicts in the Detroit area, what would you rather watch: your decrepitly hopeless team gunning for its 20th straight defeat, or two playoff teams battling with about 10 fantasy guys involved? I'm voting for Niners-Vikes! By refusing to turn out for the Lions, Detroit fans shrewdly improved their own viewing options and inspired downtrodden NFL cities across America to do the same. Now that's a great call of the week.

[RendeR]

Kinda sad to see how sad things have gotten for the Lions AND the Redskins. How far has the Skins reputation fallen that they don't sellout a game anywhere they go? When I was growing up the Redskins was a prime ticket going for high prices wether they were playing Dallas or Cleveland or Arizona. Everyone wanted to see them play.

Now....suckage. its kinda sad.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Probably best for the mental health of the citizens of Detroit. They have enough to deal with right now.

We're doing just fine thank you. No need to pity us poor folk.

Bill Simmons on the Detroit blackout with the interesting point that the blackout rules may start backfiring on the NFL:

While I have three fantasy teams (one with Favre, one with Harvin, and one with Peterson), I am not a gambler and would still much prefer to watch the Lions than Minn-SF. If I wasn't going to the game, I would likely listen to at least some of it on the radio a opposed to watching the other game.

Kinda sad to see how sad things have gotten for the Lions AND the Redskins. How far has the Skins reputation fallen that they don't sellout a game anywhere they go? When I was growing up the Redskins was a prime ticket going for high prices wether they were playing Dallas or Cleveland or Arizona. Everyone wanted to see them play.

Now....suckage. its kinda sad.

The Lions have been "sad" for a long, long time now. It's not like they had some great height to fall from say, since, the 1950's. While the economy certainly isn't helping ticket sales, if this team was even mediocre they would sell out Ford Field. But the last half of 2007 (1-7), all of 2008 and the beginning of 2009 have given no one anything to be excited about or even interested in. Calvin Johnson is amazing, but after that... it's poop.

As for the Redskins, a friend of mine from DC who is a long-time Redskins fan (been to every Super Bowl they've played in, has two sets of season tickets, etc.) was going to come in for the game, but isn't because after last week's game thinks the Redskins "look really horrible" and "it would just be too painful to watch the Redskins become the first team to lose to the Lions since '07."

I guess there is all kind of talk about how losing to the Lions this week would crush the Redskins and could lead to Jim Zorn getting fired and what not. I really would love to see that happen, since I am no fan of that team, but I don't think it will. The Lions are really, really bad still.

[gstelmack]

How far has the Skins reputation fallen that they don't sellout a game anywhere they go?

Honestly the NFL is going to continue having a tough time selling tickets. Between the stratospheric prices to attend a game and the advent of high definition and surround sound greatly improving the at-home experience, actually attending a live contest is becoming less and less appealing.

[RendeR]

Honestly the NFL is going to continue having a tough time selling tickets. Between the stratospheric prices to attend a game and the advent of high definition and surround sound greatly improving the at-home experience, actually attending a live contest is becoming less and less appealing.

Very good point that.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Honestly the NFL is going to continue having a tough time selling tickets. Between the stratospheric prices to attend a game and the advent of high definition and surround sound greatly improving the at-home experience, actually attending a live contest is becoming less and less appealing.

It certainly is for me. The only reason I am going to the Lions game is because the ticket is free and I'll be in a suite. If not for those facts, I'd rather be at home and enjoy the day.

[RomaGoth]

If the Browns put as much time into football as they do pranks, they might win a game this season.

Coye Francies of Cleveland Browns throws ice, punch in locker room skirmish - ESPN (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4504153)

[stevew]

Honestly the NFL is going to continue having a tough time selling tickets. Between the stratospheric prices to attend a game and the advent of high definition and surround sound greatly improving the at-home experience, actually attending a live contest is becoming less and less appealing.

Yeah-Buy 4 season tickets for the family, you're easily at 5K or therabouts after parking, concessions, etc. And that's only for 8 weeks.

-or-

Buy 60" Plasma(2000ish), Direct TV and NFL Package(1400ish for the year), a couple recliners(1500) and some snacks.

Plus the TV and recliners still work the next season.

[fantom1979]

Kinda sad to see how sad things have gotten for the Lions AND the Redskins. How far has the Skins reputation fallen that they don't sellout a game anywhere they go? When I was growing up the Redskins was a prime ticket going for high prices wether they were playing Dallas or Cleveland or Arizona. Everyone wanted to see them play.

Now....suckage. its kinda sad.

The Lions are 2-21 against the Redskins since 1966, plus the Lions have lost 19 in a row overall. I don't know if they would sell out any non divisional opponent right now.

[RomaGoth]

Yeah-Buy 4 season tickets for the family, you're easily at 5K or therabouts after parking, concessions, etc. And that's only for 8 weeks.

-or-

Buy 60" Plasma(2000ish), Direct TV and NFL Package(1400ish for the year), a couple recliners(1500) and some snacks.

Plus the TV and recliners still work the next season.

The important thing here is the snacks. Which ones and how many?

[stevew]

You can have whateva you like

[cougarfreak]

Am I crazy for thinking the Bengals SHOULD win? They were terrible in week one, and still almost (and should have) won. They beat what I expected to be a fairly good Packer team on the road in week 2. What I've seen from Pittsburgh hasn't impressed me, they could easily be 0-2, and can't run the ball. It's a huge game for the Bengals, if they win this game, as terrible as it sounds, the whole city is back on board, if they lose......it'll be everyone say, same ole, same ole.

[TLK]

How does the Red Zone channel handle blacked-out games?

[Honolulu_Blue]

How does the Red Zone channel handle blacked-out games?

I am pretty sure it ignores the blackout and will show the portion of the blacked out game. I think I read that somewhere recently.

[Butter]

Am I crazy for thinking the Bengals SHOULD win? They were terrible in week one, and still almost (and should have) won. They beat what I expected to be a fairly good Packer team on the road in week 2. What I've seen from Pittsburgh hasn't impressed me, they could easily be 0-2, and can't run the ball. It's a huge game for the Bengals, if they win this game, as terrible as it sounds, the whole city is back on board, if they lose......it'll be everyone say, same ole, same ole.

Well, the Bengals are definitely going to lose NOW. Thanks a lot. :p

[kingfc22]

Great....Looks like Gore's ankle isn't 100% healthy as he is already on the bench after his first carry. :(

[kingfc22]

And now Gore is heading to the locker room on a cart...

[Eaglesfan27]

LeSean McCoy with a tough inside run for a TD to put the Eagles up 7-0.

[whomario]

Sanchez !

Rushing TD, Pass TD, 7/8 passes. 14-0 Jets.
I tell you right now : I would love for him to prove all those conservative thinking guys screaming up about him leaving early wrong, seems like a perfectly nice guy with a lot of mental strengths. Certainly enjoying a terrific start to his career right now.

[kingfc22]

F&*^! Now Coffee is done.

If he can't go the rest of this game, Niners are going to get blown out with Michael Robinson getting all the carries.

[Radii]

Kansas City is just amazingly bad

[Eaglesfan27]

Kevin Kolb with a QB Sneak for a TD, but DeSean Jackson had the play of the drive - a 43 yard reception. Eagles up 14-0 and look to be taking control against the Chiefs.

[JS19]

Sweeeet juke by Bradshaw for a 40 yd run, Berman should have a field day with that one.

[jeff061]

Tom Brady sucks! :D.

Still overthrowing some guys. But there were a few media guys not slobbering all over him during the preseason that said he would be overthrowing recievers for a few weeks as he gets used to planting with that knee.

Still have high expectations for Brady and the Pats this year. It's funny watching all the spoiled NE fans acting like the end is nigh though. I still like the defense. Some may bemoan the turnover, but I like the youth and change. They aren't at their best yet, but I haven't seen them cover ground or lay hits like they are doing since their super bowl runs. They just don't seem to have the ability or desire to blitz.

[Eaglesfan27]

Those throwback ref uniforms are hideous.

[JS19]

Giants were 0-8 in the redzone coming into today, 2-2 so far. 14-0 GMen.

[spleen1015]

I wonder if the Lions are bad enough to fall for a fake FG every time. That's the only way the Redskins can score a TD.

[jeff061]

TD Fred Taylor, who just tore it up on the drive. They should just mix it up with Taylor, Morris and Faulk. I don't know where Maroney fits in anymore, beyond maybe as a returner.

[MrDNA]

Kansas City is just amazingly bad

Ditto this for Cleveland. I'm interspersing my Browns with some actual teams who play football so I don't go insane.

[JS19]

This is my first time seeing the Bucs play this yr, but after watching their performance thus far, I would definitely classify them as amazingly bad. 4 possessions, 3 punts, 1 pick. No first downs.

[JonInMiddleGA]

How the fuck does a referee miss a call as obvious as the one on the Ryan incompletion?

[Alan T]

The refs call an obvious incomplete pass as a fumble recovery for 50 yard TD for the Pats.

It will easily be overturned by replay, but no idea how EVERY ref on the field missed that one.

[larrymcg421]

LOL now I guess the Patriots get two bounces before the ball is dead. Must have missed that rule change.

[jeff061]

Yeah that was a hideous call. Never been a supporter of instant replay, but every now and then something like this comes around.

[Lorena]

How the fuck does a referee miss a call as obvious as the one on the Ryan incompletion?

Ya that was ridiculous

[larrymcg421]

LOL "His arm was going forward".

[Eaglesfan27]

DeSean Jackson is so exciting to watch. He just turned a short pass into a 64 yard TD.

[Lorena]

Why is billichick stuffing these red flags in his socks when he has pockets in his hoodie? Lol

[jeff061]

And that's why I don't like instant replay, even if it gets overturned (which it won't), close enough to go either way. Just keep the game moving.

[kingfc22]

Nice drive there by the Niners.

[MrDNA]

DeSean Jackson is so exciting to watch. He just turned a short pass into a 64 yard TD.

He's quickly becoming one of my favorite players to watch. If Eagles' fans weren't so annoying I might actually root for the team. ;)

[DeToxRox]

Fat Albert was carted off in Detroit. Doesn't look good.

[JS19]

Who wants to bet Zorn is shitcanned at halftime if they continue to be shutout by the Lions??

[spleen1015]

Who wants to bet Zorn is shitcanned at halftime if they continue to be shutout by the Lions??

I don't think he'll even get fired in the middle of the season.

[JS19]

I don't think he'll even get fired in the middle of the season.

Really? Obviously I'm kidding about halftime, but if they lose to the Lions, you don't think he'll be shown the door?

[JS19]

Seriously, Tynes, how do you miss 20 yd FG's in consecutive weeks.

Halftime, Bucs have no first down and a whopping 20 yds of offense and held the ball for only 8 minutes, but yet the Giants are only up 14-0.

[kingfc22]

Are you serious. Glad Minnesota has the 12th man wearing the Pinstripes today. Unreal.

How is a CB giving the incomplete signal after breaking up a pass taunting?! WTF. That happens every play.

[jeff061]

So that's why New England can all of a sudden run the ball. Maroney is injured.

[kingfc22]

Oh YEA!!!!!

Blocked FG for a TD!

[Thomkal]

nice knowing ya Jim Zorn I guess

[spleen1015]

Really? Obviously I'm kidding about halftime, but if they lose to the Lions, you don't think he'll be shown the door?

Nope. I think it will happen at the end of the season regardless.

[Radii]

Still can't believe that play that could have been an INT was not reviewed.

It was close enough to be looked at for sure.

I'm surprised it wasn't reviewed but it definitely hit the ground(the one replay they showed seemed quite conclusive)

[kingfc22]

I'm surprised it wasn't reviewed but it definitely hit the ground(the one replay they showed seemed quite conclusive)

Yea. Just rewound the DVR to take a look.

[JS19]

And the Bucs crowd goes wild after they get their first 1st down of the game, with 4:30 left in the 3rd.

[kingfc22]

Outside of Peterson's one big run, Niners defense has held him to just over 2 YPC.

[larrymcg421]

Offensive pass interference calls bewilder me just as much as offensive charging fouls in basketball. I see what they're calling, but then I don't understand why it's not called on almost every single play.

[kingfc22]

Wear them down. Back to back big runs by Coffee.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Y'know, as bad as the Falcons defense looks, if the Patriots were the Patriots right now it'd be 49-10.

[kingfc22]

Ehhh. That Percy Harvin is quick.

[Eaglesfan27]

Very glad to see Kolb do well today and that Vick didn't have to be the main focus of the offense.

[RedKingGold]

Oh, so this was why Vernon Davis was a top ten draft pick.

Good to see him putting it together.

On a side note, I friggin love the RedZone channel in HD.

[kingfc22]

Finally Vernon Davis is starting to live up to his potential.

His blocking has always been suberb, but if he can run that go route down the seam and make plays. Oh boy!

[whomario]

Ditto this for Cleveland. I'm interspersing my Browns with some actual teams who play football so I don't go insane.

+ 1

and what a terrible panic move by Mangini. Yes, Quinn struggled, but replacing a young QB when the backup isn´t exactly MR reliable and when it is crystall clear that the problem is much more widespread is just beyond me.

I really like Anderson and wish him all the best, but a little part of me is glad he blew up (3 Ints) so that no one actually believes that a quick Fix is possible and that this team as a whole is terrible. And this includes the playcalling.

[spleen1015]

Kolb keeps playing like this and I think the Eagles are better with him.

[RedKingGold]

Haven't been watching the Eagles/Chiefs game that much (even though I live right outside of Phily)

Has Kolb looked that good or are the Chiefs that bad?

[Eaglesfan27]

Haven't been watching the Eagles/Chiefs game that much (even though I live right outside of Phily)

Has Kolb looked that good or are the Chiefs that bad?

A little bit of both. A lot of Kolb's yardage came from some great YAC from DeSean Jackson, but Kolb played well.

[Northwood_DK]

Just run the clock now 9ers

[JS19]

Looks like the Giants have the same medical staff as the Mets, Mckenzie went down with a knee injury. Hopefully it's not serious, but blows to the knee usually don't end well. GMen aren't very deep at the O-Line. Nice 24-0 win, with the Chiefs and Raiders next.

[spleen1015]

Well, stick a fork in the Skins. Grats Lions.

FIRE JIM ZORN!!

:D

[Eaglesfan27]

Detroit goes up 19-7 on Washington with under 6 minutes to go.

[Lorena]

Much needed turnover let's see if the texans can do anything

[kingfc22]

This is what the Niners want. Make the defense win the game.

[JS19]

Titans come up with a big pick, trailing 24-17 in the 4th, and Collins gives it right back.

[kingfc22]

Favre was past the line of scrimmage by 2 yards.

[Northwood_DK]

thats comming back

[Lorena]

R u kidding texans?

[kingfc22]

4th down. Come on D!

[kingfc22]

That's right baby! Time to start respecting this team.

[Radii]

good win for san francisco


edit: oops.

[Radii]

dola, i thought Minny had used some timeouts, not over just yet

[Eaglesfan27]

I'm watching the Redzone channel and missed a minute - How did Minnesota get the ball back?

[Northwood_DK]

I'm watching the Redzone channel and missed a minute - How did Minnesota get the ball back?

49ersd ran it 3 times up the middle for no yards

[Radii]

I'm watching the Redzone channel and missed a minute - How did Minnesota get the ball back?

forced a 3 and out and had all three timeouts left to stop the clock.

[JS19]

WOW

[Eaglesfan27]

Oh my! What will Jas Lov say about that Favre throw? Guess Favre isn't washed up yet.

[Eaglesfan27]

Dola -

Great catch by Lewis.

[tucker rocky]

Lions win!

[kingfc22]

Unreal. Favre continues his magic spell over the Niners.

[M GO BLUE!!!]

Lions win!

OH MY GOD!!! :eek:

[Northwood_DK]

I feel sick to my stomach

[Glengoyne]

good win for san francisco


I was just saying that 3-0. Impressive. It looks like this team isn't just drinking the coach's Kool-aid. He and them really are bringing something to the table.

Then DAMN. That was a great catch. If this were the playoffs, we'd be seeing that catch on replays for years.

Damn fantastic catch.

[tucker rocky]

OH MY GOD!!! :eek:

19-14

[Rizon]

Bay Area sports rule!

[Rizon]

omg, the Dolphins are on TV in Oakland while the Faders are playing!?!? wtf?? Woohoo!

[Sun Tzu]

Every Vikings fan in the USA needs to send Mark Roman a dozen roses. That guy is absolutely terrible, and has no idea how to play the deep ball. He was single handedely responsible for at least 1,000 passing yards and countless TD's last year, and this year he's solely responsible for allowing the Vikings to score a TD with :02 remaining. When you watch the replay, look at the 49er defender, who is just standing there like he has no idea what he's supposed to do, with one hand reaching out.

Un-fucking believable. Mark Roman, who the 49ers tried to trade this offseason because he was so terrible, but not a single team in the NFL was interested. Why does he still have a job? I would be very, very surprised if he wasn't cut this week. He's a liability everytime he's on the field.

[Galaril]

Wow. Titans go to 0-3 with games at Jaxville,Colts at home and at NE. They could be looking at 0-6 very likely . I guess they can already start planning on drafting a QB again:(

[terpkristin]

Lions win!

This is going to make some people at work tomorrow downright unbearable.

But I've always thought that the Redskins were kind of a joke, so I'm actually ok with it.

/tk

[tucker rocky]

What's with the lime-green uniform tops for Seattle?

[Big Fo]

Dolphins march 90+ yards only to fumble it at the goal line, terrible.

[larrymcg421]

Fuck fuck fuck Dolphins

[Rizon]

Fuck fuck fuck Dolphins

Sammie Smith is back on the Dolphins?

[larrymcg421]

Sammie Smith is back on the Dolphins?

Sammie would have waited until the 4th quarter.

[Radii]

Buffalo with a fake field goal, the holder throws a 25 yard TD pass to DE Ryan Denney, who I have playing today in a deep IDP FF league, whee!

[Schmidty]

I am SO FUCKING HAPPY RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!! :D :D :D

[larrymcg421]

If the Dolphins lose here, might be time to start the "Fuck Ginn/Hang Chad/Put a hit on Sparano" thread.

[sovereignstar]

Haven't seen an Arles Brett Favre update in quite awhile. Is there still grumblings in the Vikings locker room?

[Big Fo]

The only beef I have with Sporano is the clock management late vs. the Colts last week. Pennington is probably playing his last season in Miami unless Parcells/Ireland decide Henne isn't the answer after all. There's nothing kind I can say about Ginn though.

[Vince, Pt. II]

I can't begin to tell you how hard it is to be a Giants and 49ers fan at the moment. This is just brutal.

[larrymcg421]

The only beef I have with Sporano is the clock management late vs. the Colts last week. Pennington is probably playing his last season in Miami unless Parcells/Ireland decide Henne isn't the answer after all. There's nothing kind I can say about Ginn though.

Well I like Chad and Sparano. I was just parodying the thread from a couple years ago.

[Big Fo]

Well I like Chad and Sparano. I was just parodying the thread from a couple years ago.

Yeah, that was a good thread. I just couldn't tell if you'd already lost faith in the current regime.

I hate that one yard pass on third down.

[SirFozzie]

I have to wonder if they've pretty much quit on Man-genius in Cleveland. What other coach in the NFL has FIVE greivances filed against him in 48 hours? (seems a bit like Captain Queeg on Mutiny on the Bounty)

Source: Cleveland Browns players file grievances for fines - ESPN (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4508545)

Fines like:
$1,301 for not paying for a $3 bottle of hotel water
Parking in the wrong spot
having the cell phone go off in meetings.

[MrDNA]

What's with the lime-green uniform tops for Seattle?

Those are AWFUL. Add that to the Texans red pajamas and the Browns sh!t-stained pants and it's been a hard day on the eyes.

[M GO BLUE!!!]

I am SO FUCKING HAPPY RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!! :D :D :D

I see 4 wins this season. They can beat the Rams, Browns & one other game (probably Bengals.)

[larrymcg421]

Yeah, that was a good thread. I just couldn't tell if you'd already lost faith in the current regime.

I hate that one yard pass on third down.

Nah, they built up enough goodwill last year for me to be patient.

And a great defensive play as I'm typing! Just what we need.

[Big Fo]

Nice play by Porter, sack and a forced fumble recovered by Miami. Let's cash it in now.

[Schmidty]

I see 4 wins this season. They can beat the Rams, Browns & one other game (probably Bengals.)

I don't even care. I'm just happy they finally won one damned game. I'm saving this one on my Tivo.

Did you see Peterman (or whoever) crying his eyes out?

[Big Fo]

I'm glad Detroit won, both of my parents are from Michigan and I've had a soft spot for them since I was a kid and they had Barry Sanders. But what is up with those stuffed lions people are wearing on their heads? Those almost make cheeseheads look cool. Almost.

[Cringer]

Packers were crap today for most of the game, they won because it was the Rams who were just as crappy in their own special way (and had Boller at QB on top of it). Unless a miracle happens to our offensive line, this team will not win the division and Rodgers may die next week in Minnesota or sometime shortly after. The defense is inconsistent as well, good at getting turnovers but good at giving up some running yardage and yardage on broken plays.

I will give the Vikings the division now. Better them then the Bears I guess. At least they have Favre and Longwell, who I can't totally dislike.

[spleen1015]

What happened to the Bills bad pass defense? I want my weekly Brees fireworks!

[larrymcg421]

What happened to the Bills bad pass defense? I want my weekly Brees fireworks!

No! Keep him away from Marino's record.

[kcchief19]

Those throwback ref uniforms are hideous.
I'm an old school guy so I love everything AFL throwback-related. Can't wait for the Chiefs to roll out their Texans gear.

Those glow-in-the-dark Seahawk disasters, however, belong at the bottom of a landfill in New Mexico.

[Senator]

Someone should go back to the many pages of the "I hate Favre" thread and see who looks like douche bags now. I suspect many.

[larrymcg421]

Someone should go back to the many pages of the "I hate Favre" thread and see who looks like douche bags now. I suspect many.

And I hope someone remembers this post if Favre crashes and burns later in the season like he did last year.

[MrDNA]

Did Favre make more than the one good throw which the receiver made an amazing catch on?

[Sun Tzu]

Serously? You're giving Favre credit for that last second TD? With a terribly out of position DB in combination with what will probably be the best acrobatic catch of the year by the WR? The pass was terribly overthrown too, as the entire corner of the endzone was left open by Mark Roman (said DB). Seriously now.

homer

[spleen1015]

I think this is all a trick by Favre. He threw several crappy throws today just so that he could do that at the end.

[Radii]

Did Favre make more than the one good throw which the receiver made an amazing catch on?

They went 80 yards in 1:29...surely Favre gets credit for that.

Also he was taking a lot of checkdowns to Chester Taylor and shorter throws over the middle in situations where many of us would have expected him to force bad long balls more often than not, his decision making seemed quite sound. I thought he had a solid game.

[Sun Tzu]

They went 80 yards in 1:29...surely Favre gets credit for that.

Also he was taking a lot of checkdowns to Chester Taylor and shorter throws over the middle in situations where many of us would have expected him to force bad long balls more often than not, his decision making seemed quite sound. I thought he had a solid game.

Meh, I would expect any QB who is a backup or better in the NFL to be able to hit wideouts with a 7-10 yard cushion. The deciding factors of the game were the Kickoff return for a TD, the dropped sure pick six by Dre Bly with 2 minutes left, and Mark Roman not quite understanding what "deep quarters" coverage means.

[larrymcg421]

Favre should get credit for that. I simply think it's out of line to call people "douches" because of an amazing play in week 3, especially in light of how last year went.

[M GO BLUE!!!]

I don't even care. I'm just happy they finally won one damned game. I'm saving this one on my Tivo.

Did you see Peterman (or whoever) crying his eyes out?

Nope. I watched the last few minutes online... I'll see the full game tonight on NFL Rewind (paid $50 to watch these games & haven't missed a play yet!)

[larrymcg421]

Pennington hurt. Henne is in now for the Fins.

[MikeVic]

Sweed is useless!!!

[larrymcg421]

Dolphins up 6-3, but wasting opportunities. It should be 17-3.

[DaddyTorgo]

i think this might mark the end of the Galloway-experiment in NE. He just can't seem to get on the same page as Brady (that being said Brady had some bad misses today too). Pats are looking awful in the Red Zone - as I said last week I wonder how much of that is the absence of Welker...

Fred Taylor also needs to be the starting RB. The guy is a monster - he was strong last week when they ran him against the Jets and he was huge today (albeit against an Atlanta D that is soft on the run)

[Swaggs]

Wallace seems to have already moved ahead of Sweed as the #3 receiver. Sweed needs to get his crap together soon, or he is going to end up behind Shaun McDonald, too. It's a shame, Sweed reminds me a lot of Nate Washington during his first couple of seasons, but Washington didn't have near the expectations that Sweed does as a high pick.

[Swaggs]

i think this might mark the end of the Galloway-experiment in NE. He just can't seem to get on the same page as Brady (that being said Brady had some bad misses today too). Pats are looking awful in the Red Zone - as I said last week I wonder how much of that is the absence of Welker...

Fred Taylor also needs to be the starting RB. The guy is a monster - he was strong last week when they ran him against the Jets and he was huge today (albeit against an Atlanta D that is soft on the run)

The challenge with Taylor has always been keeping him alive for a full season. Pats would be wise to use him sparingly until (assuming they make it) the playoffs.

[Lorena]

Sweed is useless!!!


Ya what a waste of a good pass

[DaddyTorgo]

The challenge with Taylor has always been keeping him alive for a full season. Pats would be wise to use him sparingly until (assuming they make it) the playoffs.

I suppose that's true. Fortunately they seem to maybe have enough depth at RB...

[larrymcg421]

Dolphins down 10-6, but as we learned last week, the only thing that matters is time of possession, and I think they're still winning that. I hope they don't get an 80 yard TD because that would be bad.

[Swaggs]

Any Pat White sightings in the Dolphins' game?

[mauchow]

The Vikings could have easily blown the 9ers out if it weren't for the blocked field goal returned for a touchdown with no time remaining in the first half. I held my ground and said the Vikes would pull out a win and they did so in amazing fashion.

[larrymcg421]

He's been sighted on the sideline.

[larrymcg421]

Henne looks awful.

[larrymcg421]

Another drop for Ginn.

[Schmidty]

Holy crap, Seattle's green uniforms are AWFUL. They look like a mixture between an Arena team, and an XFL reject.

[larrymcg421]

Henne tries to throw a forward pass when he's 5 yards past the line of scrimmage.

[Glengoyne]

Henne tries to throw a forward pass when he's 5 yards past the line of scrimmage.

You can't do that?

[larrymcg421]

You can't do that?

I wish, because it's the only time a Dolphins WR has been open all game.

[Rizon]

The Dolphins need help. Everywhere. Terrible team.

[larrymcg421]

Pick six Henne. Terrible throw. What a fucking miserable sports weekend.

[larrymcg421]

The Dolphins need help. Everywhere. Terrible team.

Run offense and run defense are solid. Pass offense and defense are miserable. We'd be great if this was Leatherheads.

[larrymcg421]

Holy shit Henne is bad. He looks so uncomfortable dropping back. It looks like he's going to trip over himself every time.

[Neuqua]

Is Terrell Owens not playing?

[Eaglesfan27]

Glad to see Palmer is really back. Nice job leading that comeback drive against the Steelers (and a heck of a play by Leonard.)

[MikeVic]

What a bad feeling, losing to the Bengals.

[larrymcg421]

Bengals finish off a terrific drive with a TD to go up 23-20, pissing off the fans (who were laughing at me earlier) at this Steelers bar I've been watching the game at, somewhat calming my mood.

[cougarfreak]

What a bad feeling, losing to the Bengals.

Yes, Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What a comeback!!!!!!

[Sun Tzu]

The Vikings could have easily blown the 9ers out if it weren't for the blocked field goal returned for a touchdown with no time remaining in the first half. I held my ground and said the Vikes would pull out a win and they did so in amazing fashion.

The 49ers could have easily blown out the Vikes if it weren't for the kickoff returned for a TD and a miracle last second hail mary.

The 49ers had one crazy bounce go their way that resulted in a TD. The Vikes had two. Next time you watch the game take off your purple sunglasses, you might see two teams playing.

[M GO BLUE!!!]

Wow... Steelers lose to the Bangles?

[Senator]

Favre should get credit for that. I simply think it's out of line to call people "douches" because of an amazing play in week 3, especially in light of how last year went.

If you're smart, surround yourself with smart people who disagree with you.

[Scoobz0202]

A team who was really close to being 3-0....

[larrymcg421]

Wow... Steelers lose to the Bangles?

No, but I doubt the Dolphins secondary could cover Susannah Hoffs.

[Radii]

Is Terrell Owens not playing?

they threw to him like 5 times, 0 catches. Buffalo looked horrible on offense. Their only score was on a fake FG, I think they punted on 8 out of 9 possessions until they had to start going for it on 4th down out of desparation.

[Masked]

they threw to him like 5 times, 0 catches. Buffalo looked horrible on offense. Their only score was on a fake FG, I think they punted on 8 out of 9 possessions until they had to start going for it on 4th down out of desparation.

Breaks his streak of 185 games with a reception.

[Schmidty]

The Seahawks deserved to lose with those fucking unis. I know I said it before, but damn.