NFL Draft Pick Point Value Chart in MP

[Groo]

Can someone tell me why everyone who plays MP is stuck on this chart? I personally believe it is simple laziness, as no one wants to think about trade values.

Simply look at your leagues last 5 drafts. Is the 1.2 pick worth the 1.7 PLUS the 1.14 pick? That's the value given by the Point Value chart.

There is no question it should require additional value to move up in the draft. Paying a price to be sure you are going to get the player you want is reasonable. Paying a ridiculous price is, well, ridiculous. Simply, this chart is way out of line with reality. By this chart, I could trade 4.1 - 4.7 for 1.26. Is anyone realistically going to make this trade?

I'm new to MP, and the second you talk to anyone about a draft pick trade, the first thing they do is quote this chart, not even taking into consideration common sense. I just don't see any common sense in a lot of the chart. I'm not saying it's all bad. But there are several areas in which this chart is completely off, and MP players need to be able to differentiate by thinking rather than stubbornly clinging to the chart even when the deal you are offering makes absolutely no sense.

Sorry for the rant. I do feel better now that I got this off my chest :D

[gstelmack]

The Ricky Williams trade should be the model for moving up into the top 3 or so (depending on QB/WR count) of an FOF draft. Everything else involves minimal value. The chart is truly absurd to use in MP FOF.

[Jughead Spock]

Is the 1.2 pick worth the 1.7 PLUS the 1.14 pick? That's the value given by the Point Value chart.

There is no question it should require additional value to move up in the draft. Paying a price to be sure you are going to get the player you want is reasonable. Paying a ridiculous price is, well, ridiculous.


Agreed, but if it's a WR or QB involved, it will no doubt require 'ridiculous' to make it happen. I've seen many more times where 1.7 + 1.14 wouldn't even get you in the discussion for 1.2.

[bighouserulez]

In our league we just had a trade veto'd and the offers flushed in and ended like this:

St. Louis sends 1.1 to Dallas.

Dallas sends (wait for it...)
1.14
2.13
1st in '90
2nd in '90
3rd in '90
1st in '91
2nd in '91

3 1sts 3 2nds and a 3rd for the topping. Now that was for a Aikman in 1989 who should be a stud qb.

[dubb93]

In our league we just had a trade veto'd and the offers flushed in and ended like this:

St. Louis sends 1.1 to Dallas.

Dallas sends (wait for it...)
1.14
2.13
1st in '90
2nd in '90
3rd in '90
1st in '91
2nd in '91

3 1sts 3 2nds and a 3rd for the topping. Now that was for a Aikman in 1989 who should be a stud qb.

Assuming Dallas has WRs to go with it I don't see this as a terrible deal for Dallas in the FOF sense.

[Jughead Spock]

I recently offered 1.2, 1.32, a first in the following year, 2 2nds in the following year, a young ok QB, and a young all-star OT to get 1.1. That's right, to move up ONE spot.

A) didn't get it, and B) was told it wasn't the best offer. Why? Freaky-good QB in the draft, and nothing else near him. The draft value chart is practically meaningless in MP.

[beargrowlz]

A fair price for 1.1 (or 1.2 or anything else that can be bought or traded) is what the market will bear.

Nothing more, nothing less.


Cheers,
-Bear

[TheMeat]

Bear's right, the actual "value" of the pick is whatever the owner of the pick can get for it, which depends HEAVILY, almost solely on the strength of the draft class.

I use the draft pick value chart a lot, but only ever as a basis for starting talks, most of the time I stick to it but even in the NFL owners only use this as a reference. The desire to draft the player they want can make that pick worth twice as much, or say in the 2008 draft when Miami took jake long, they couldn't give that pick away... (well, I'm sure they could've but no one was offerring anything of any value to move up)

People who use the chart and don't budge off it's value might not know the game well enough to be comfortable straying from it. If they're really not sure whether they're being ripped off they should just stick to the chart. But then maybe when the pick they have is worth more than it's chart value and you know that you should jump in and offer chart value....

Every challenge is an opportunity Groo ;)

[Firefly]

A fair price for 1.1 (or 1.2 or anything else that can be bought or traded) is what the market will bear.

Nothing more, nothing less.


Cheers,
-Bear

What he said. If you don't like the chart, you've no idea what the twisted minds of your fellow GMs can come up with. Like others mentioned before, one day you may find yourself begging for sb to settle for draft chart value. On the other hand, there are many owners that are fair and easy to deal with.

Never a dull moment when trading.