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flere-imsaho
12-07-2009, 11:47 AM
Four weeks to go....

Poll to follow.

Doug5984
12-07-2009, 11:49 AM
1. Cleveland
2. Tampa Bay
3. St Louis
4. Detroit
Then probably the chiefs to round out the top 5?

DeToxRox
12-07-2009, 11:49 AM
I fully expect the top 5 to be:

1. STL
2. CLE
3. TB
4. DET
5. KC

flere-imsaho
12-07-2009, 11:51 AM
After filling this out, I can't believe the Raiders have 4 wins.

Logan
12-07-2009, 11:51 AM
Can't wait. Barring any crazy runs, Niners should have two picks in the 10-15 range which will hopefully be used to address the OL.

Butter
12-07-2009, 11:54 AM
Cleveland needs so much, it's hard to know where to begin. I'm sure the fans will just hope that they don't make a mistake of Couch-esque proportions again.

bhlloy
12-07-2009, 11:57 AM
Tampa - I think Brady Quinn wins a couple of games for the Browns before the end of the season. He really looked pretty good (1 fumble aside) against the Chargers.

Samdari
12-07-2009, 11:59 AM
I think the 3-9 teams are completely out of it.

Who would get it when (oops, I mean if) Cleveland and St. Louis tie at 1-15? That's my pick.

And could either really take the guy looking like the best player in the draft? Suh has got to play DT in the 4-3, so he's a poor fit in Cleveland (although who knows what Mangini's successor will run). And can St Louis really sell a 3rd defensive lineman/4th lineman in 4 years to their fans?

Matthean
12-07-2009, 12:09 PM
Depends on how tie breakers go, but I really have a hard time thinking about anything Tampa Bay would have to give me hope.
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MikeVic
12-07-2009, 12:16 PM
Don't worry, the fucking Steelers will lose to the Browns.

claphamsa
12-07-2009, 12:20 PM
Don't worry, the fucking Steelers will lose to the Browns.
we can only hope!

RedKingGold
12-07-2009, 12:32 PM
I'm rooting for the Browns to get it...just so they can struggle with the decision to draft another over-hyped Notre Dame prospect to be their franchise quarterback of the future.

Dr. Sak
12-07-2009, 12:33 PM
Don't worry, the fucking Steelers will lose to the Browns.

It'll go from unleashing hell to hell freezing over.

DaddyTorgo
12-07-2009, 01:51 PM
I'm rooting for the Browns to get it...just so they can struggle with the decision to draft another over-hyped Notre Dame prospect to be their franchise quarterback of the future.

:D

Matthean
12-07-2009, 11:58 PM
For those wondering, SOS is the first tie breaker unless a playoff and non-playoff team are involved.

NFL Draft - Determining NFL Draft Order (http://football.about.com/od/miscinformation/a/detdraftorder.htm)
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Samdari
12-08-2009, 07:29 AM
For those wondering, SOS is the first tie breaker unless a playoff and non-playoff team are involved.

NFL Draft - Determining NFL Draft Order (http://football.about.com/od/miscinformation/a/detdraftorder.htm)
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I knew that - I don't really feel like calculating it.

Logan
12-08-2009, 09:29 AM
And of course, it goes by lowest SOS.

Samdari
12-08-2009, 10:54 AM
Found someone who HAS calculated this, and they have Cleveland with the lowest, then TB, then STL.

I expect Cleveland to keep this, with KC and Oak on the schedule. Of course, that actually presents them with two opportunities for wins, and screwing up the pick.

TB has NO and no horrible teams on the schedule, so they could end up worse than STL, who has teams with largely mediocre records upcoming.

I see the draft order ending STL, TB, Cleve, with the picks being Suh, Gerald McCoy and Locker.

Matthean
12-08-2009, 11:03 AM
Found someone who HAS calculated this, and they have Cleveland with the lowest, then TB, then STL.

I expect Cleveland to keep this, with KC and Oak on the schedule. Of course, that actually presents them with two opportunities for wins, and screwing up the pick.

TB has NO and no horrible teams on the schedule, so they could end up worse than STL, who has teams with largely mediocre records upcoming.

I see the draft order ending STL, TB, Cleve, with the picks being Suh, Gerald McCoy and Locker.

Why would Cleveland and Tampa Bay take QBs when they recently invested in 1st round QBs?

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bhlloy
12-08-2009, 11:38 AM
Gerald McCoy is a DT. But yeah, I don't see Cleveland taking a QB either. Quinn has actually looked pretty decent in the last couple of weeks IMO.

Passacaglia
12-08-2009, 12:02 PM
And why wouldn't St. Louis take a QB?

B & B
12-08-2009, 12:39 PM
StLouis will take a QB. Locker or Bradford.

Cle and TB will not be selecting a QB.

Samdari
12-08-2009, 02:20 PM
And why wouldn't St. Louis take a QB?

Oh, they need a QB, I agree. But, if they are at 1, and there is not a #1 overall worthy QB, why wouldn't they take the best player in the draft, who also happens to play a need position, instead of a QB?

If St. Louis picks third, and Suh is gone, I think they'd take Locker.

Why would Cleveland take a QB? Because by April he will be the choice of the guy two GM's ago, and he is not a starting caliber NFL QB?

The last part may be up for debate, but the first part is not. Regime changes tend to bring about 'franchise QB' changes, and Cleveland seems poised to have the most complete changing of the guard in the football operation we have seen in many years. They will even change the ushers. Its never too early to give up on the last guys' players.

Passacaglia
12-08-2009, 02:27 PM
Oh, they need a QB, I agree. But, if they are at 1, and there is not a #1 overall worthy QB, why wouldn't they take the best player in the draft, who also happens to play a need position, instead of a QB?


For the same reason every other team that picks #1 doesn't? :p

path12
12-08-2009, 02:37 PM
Wow. Locker in top 3? I like him, but he's at least three years away from being effective at the pro level IMO.

Solecismic
12-08-2009, 02:38 PM
It's far too close to call between the 1-11 teams right now.

Opponent victories so far:

Cleveland 102, St. Louis 105, Tampa Bay 108. Detroit's at 102 as well.

Strength of schedule for remaining games:

Cleveland .417, St. Louis .479, Tampa Bay .604. Detroit's at .500.

If expected favorites win each remaining game:

1. Tampa Bay, 2. St. Louis, 3. Cleveland (could well be favored over Oakland at home, though would be 1st with a loss), 4. Washington, 5. Detroit, (KC 8th).

Warhammer
12-08-2009, 08:01 PM
I like Locker, but I think the Rams would be nuts to take him.

tarcone
12-08-2009, 08:11 PM
There is no doubt St Louis takes a QB. Bulger is done. He will be cut this offseason. Clausen will be the pick for the Rams. Bradfords injury scares teams and esp the Rams with the recent history of injured QBs. Locker will not be the pick.
Clausen to the Rams. Book it.

flere-imsaho
12-09-2009, 09:07 AM
Clausen & Weis to the Rams actually makes some sense.

MizzouRah
12-09-2009, 07:11 PM
There is no doubt St Louis takes a QB. Bulger is done. He will be cut this offseason. Clausen will be the pick for the Rams. Bradfords injury scares teams and esp the Rams with the recent history of injured QBs. Locker will not be the pick.
Clausen to the Rams. Book it.

I hope you're wrong.. I think they pick Suh if he's available or Dez Bryant if Suh is not available. Too many iffy QB's in the draft.. they can pick one in the 2nd round.

tarcone
12-09-2009, 07:30 PM
I hope you're wrong.. I think they pick Suh if he's available or Dez Bryant if Suh is not available. Too many iffy QB's in the draft.. they can pick one in the 2nd round.

I think the only way this happens is if Boller shows something in the last few games. Or Null comes in and proves to be something usable. But with a new coach, he will want to get his own guy.

I could see Suh, since Spags is a D coach, but you cant win with a DT and no QB.

Samdari
12-10-2009, 07:40 AM
I hope you're wrong.. I think they pick Suh if he's available or Dez Bryant if Suh is not available. Too many iffy QB's in the draft.. they can pick one in the 2nd round.

I agree with you that there are at least 6-7 players in this draft better than the best QB. But, what QB do you think you'll get in the second round?

I am certain Locker, Clausen and Bradford will be gone. There seems a good possibility that Tebow would be gone too. You want McCoy leading your team. You might be better off with Vick.

kcchief19
12-10-2009, 11:53 AM
St. Louis has a ridonculous schedule -- they are the only team near the bottom with no game in which they seemingly have a chance. Everybody else has some winnable games. Cleveland gets a plunging Pittsburgh at home, at Kansas City then Oakland and Jacksonville at home. Heck, Cleveland could go 3-1 without a lot of work.

If I'm the Rams I trade down. They have more problems than one No. 1 will solve, and they need a QB in a year in which no QB deserves to go No. 1.

So trade the pick to Oakland for an assload of picks so Al Davis can get nuts and draft Tim Tebow and the Rams can get a promising QB and fill some other holes.

kcchief19
12-10-2009, 11:54 AM
And I've said it before and I'll say it again, anyone who lets Suh pass by them can simly turn in their NFL membership card. Assuming he doesn't get hurt, he will anchor a defensive line for someone until 2020.

Bigsmooth
12-14-2009, 02:30 PM
Just released by the UW:

Locker will come back for his Senior season.

Crazy considering McShay's most recent mock draft has him going #1 overall. Wow, great news for the Huskies!

HeavyReign
12-14-2009, 02:34 PM
Just released by the UW:

Locker will come back for his Senior season.

Crazy considering McShay's most recent mock draft has him going #1 overall. Wow, great news for the Huskies!


:):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):)

Passacaglia
12-14-2009, 02:44 PM
That probably decreases the Lions chances of getting Suh. Drat.

Honolulu_Blue
12-14-2009, 02:56 PM
That probably decreases the Lions chances of getting Suh. Drat.

:(

Samdari
12-14-2009, 03:19 PM
That probably decreases the Lions chances of getting Suh. Drat.

I think there is no chance he makes it to them no matter who is in the draft, assuming they climb no higher than 4th.

Passacaglia
12-14-2009, 03:49 PM
I think there is no chance he makes it to them no matter who is in the draft, assuming they climb no higher than 4th.

I could see it. Take Locker, Clausen, and one guy with "intangibles" and Suh falls to 4.

Honolulu_Blue
12-14-2009, 03:59 PM
I think there is no chance he makes it to them no matter who is in the draft, assuming they climb no higher than 4th.

I think it's pretty slim too, but you never know. After the combine and all the obsessing that goes on between the end of bowl season and the actual draft, crazier things have happened.

Samdari
12-14-2009, 04:00 PM
I could see it. Take Locker, Clausen, and one guy with "intangibles" and Suh falls to 4.

I could see the quarterbacks going to Cleveland and St. Louis. Don't think its likely, but teams bypass better players for QBs all the time.

But Tampa? Not a chance Suh gets by them, whether they have 1,2 or 3.

I don't think you often see guys being taken on 'intangibles' in the top 3.

DeToxRox
12-14-2009, 04:00 PM
If you want Suh you better pick first because someone is going to trade up for him regardless.

Lions are going to get my man love Eric Berry based on their new found allegiance to BPA. He will be the BPA and though it is odd to have two amazing safeties, it's the easiest way to fix this sieve secondary.

If Cleveland beats KC this weekend (which is entirely possible) Detroit moves up to 3. I now actually expect them to stay there come the draft.

RedKingGold
12-14-2009, 06:03 PM
Suh has to be the #1 overall pick at this point, regardless of the team with the first overall selection. (unless injury, total unpreparedness at combine/workout, or arrest).

MizzouRah
12-14-2009, 10:23 PM
I think the only way this happens is if Boller shows something in the last few games. Or Null comes in and proves to be something usable. But with a new coach, he will want to get his own guy.

I could see Suh, since Spags is a D coach, but you cant win with a DT and no QB.

My thoughts are we stay with Bulger.. yeah, I'm not a fan.. at ALL.. BUT Jackson only has maybe 3 years left and I'd take Dez Bryant, which would give you 3 good WR's for him to throw to and then grab a OL in the second round.

I don't think our defense is that bad.. maybe get a good FA or two in that department.

MizzouRah
12-14-2009, 10:25 PM
I agree with you that there are at least 6-7 players in this draft better than the best QB. But, what QB do you think you'll get in the second round?

I am certain Locker, Clausen and Bradford will be gone. There seems a good possibility that Tebow would be gone too. You want McCoy leading your team. You might be better off with Vick.

I'd rather stay with poop head Bulger at this point - our greatest asset, Steven Jackson doesn't have that many years left - we need offense NOW!

MizzouRah
12-14-2009, 10:26 PM
St. Louis has a ridonculous schedule -- they are the only team near the bottom with no game in which they seemingly have a chance. Everybody else has some winnable games. Cleveland gets a plunging Pittsburgh at home, at Kansas City then Oakland and Jacksonville at home. Heck, Cleveland could go 3-1 without a lot of work.

If I'm the Rams I trade down. They have more problems than one No. 1 will solve, and they need a QB in a year in which no QB deserves to go No. 1.

So trade the pick to Oakland for an assload of picks so Al Davis can get nuts and draft Tim Tebow and the Rams can get a promising QB and fill some other holes.

Not a bad idea really.. you're right, we need a TON of players.. at least on offense.

Samdari
12-15-2009, 07:11 AM
I'd rather stay with poop head Bulger at this point - our greatest asset, Steven Jackson doesn't have that many years left - we need offense NOW!

I was serious about Vick. I don't think Philly pays his bonus and keeps him next year, and I think the Rams would score more points with him next year than any other option.

I was responding to the thought that the Rams take Suh 1st and pick up a QB in the 2nd. I did not think one would be available. Then again, McCoy might be, and might be worth an early 2. But, why not sign Vick for 2010 AND draft McCoy with the 2.1-2.2?

DaddyTorgo
12-15-2009, 07:37 AM
I was serious about Vick. I don't think Philly pays his bonus and keeps him next year, and I think the Rams would score more points with him next year than any other option.

I was responding to the thought that the Rams take Suh 1st and pick up a QB in the 2nd. I did not think one would be available. Then again, McCoy might be, and might be worth an early 2. But, why not sign Vick for 2010 AND draft McCoy with the 2.1-2.2?

i wish nothing but misery and an 0-16 season on any organization that signs mike vick

Samdari
12-15-2009, 07:41 AM
i wish nothing but misery and an 0-16 season on any organization that signs mike vick

The NFL is not about morality, its about wins.

I gotta think Vick gives them more offense than Bulger. And he'd be far better behind a leaky offensive line.

Samdari
12-16-2009, 07:23 AM
I don't see Cleveland taking a QB either. Quinn has actually looked pretty decent in the last couple of weeks IMO.

I am wondering if this opinion changes if Holmgren comes aboard.

Matthean
12-16-2009, 07:35 AM
I am wondering if this opinion changes if Holmgren comes aboard.

Only if he's Matt Millen in disguise.
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Butter
12-16-2009, 08:36 AM
Brady Quinn is awful. He might be just good enough to get you to 6-10, but that's about it.

Bearcat729
12-16-2009, 09:24 AM
Brady Quinn is awful. He might be just good enough to get you to 6-10, but that's about it.

But the idea now is that Quinn has earned one more chance to prove he can be better. Plus the Browns need so many different things that a top QB isn't going to make the team drastically better.

bulletsponge
12-16-2009, 10:21 AM
plus there isnt a top qb in this draft anyways right?

Samdari
12-16-2009, 10:32 AM
plus there isnt a top qb in this draft anyways right?

I think Clausen will go in the top 5. Would not be surprised to see Bradford creep that high either.

Heck, I would not be stunned to see Locker in. After all, officially declaring your intentions to go back to college is like proving a negative - you can't do it. Nothing is official until the NFL deadline passes without his paperwork being in declaring.

Maple Leafs
12-16-2009, 12:35 PM
I think Clausen will go in the top 5.
The the Browns should take him. Grabbing the QB from Notre Dame works well for them.

MizzouRah
12-16-2009, 12:36 PM
I was serious about Vick. I don't think Philly pays his bonus and keeps him next year, and I think the Rams would score more points with him next year than any other option.

I was responding to the thought that the Rams take Suh 1st and pick up a QB in the 2nd. I did not think one would be available. Then again, McCoy might be, and might be worth an early 2. But, why not sign Vick for 2010 AND draft McCoy with the 2.1-2.2?

I wouldn't mind Vick.

Matthean
12-16-2009, 12:40 PM
Brady Quinn is awful. He might be just good enough to get you to 6-10, but that's about it.

Better talent around him will get them to 6-10 by default.

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bhlloy
12-16-2009, 01:00 PM
Let me preface this by saying I despise Brady Quinn, but I honestly don't think you can call him awful just yet. Give him a year with a head coach who actually supports him and commits to him as the starter and see what happens. He's been up and down this year but he's still only played 13 games in his NFL career - are you ready to write a rookie off after 13 games?

Matthean
12-16-2009, 05:35 PM
First of many mock drafts.

McShay's Mock Draft - ESPN Video - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=4748460)
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lighthousekeeper
01-04-2010, 12:03 AM
bump

FOFC favorite Browns don't even end up in the top 5, going 4-0 after poll was posted.

MizzouRah
01-04-2010, 05:15 PM
Suh should be getting ready to put on the "1" Rams jersey.

Eaglesfan27
01-04-2010, 05:26 PM
I wouldn't mind Vick.

I think he is going to be downright bad as a full time starter for whoever he goes to. He just doesn't have the speed any more and that was the #1 thing that made him special as a QB.

Honolulu Blue
01-04-2010, 06:34 PM
Suh should be getting ready to put on the "1" Rams jersey.

NO! The Rams would rather have one of several pretty quarterbacks out there. :D

MizzouRah
01-04-2010, 10:35 PM
NO! The Rams would rather have one of several pretty quarterbacks out there. :D

I sure hope not.. but I wouldn't put it past them. :popcorn:

MizzouRah
01-04-2010, 10:36 PM
I think he is going to be downright bad as a full time starter for whoever he goes to. He just doesn't have the speed any more and that was the #1 thing that made him special as a QB.

Now that time has passed, I think you're right. I say we pick one up in the 2nd round.

M GO BLUE!!!
01-04-2010, 10:57 PM
I think the Rams should take a QB #1. Or a receiver. Not Suh.

MizzouRah
01-05-2010, 01:39 PM
I think the Rams should take a QB #1. Or a receiver. Not Suh.

Ok, name the QB you would take at #1.

M GO BLUE!!!
01-05-2010, 02:10 PM
Ok, name the QB you would take at #1.

I wouldn't. The Lions did that last year. I just want Suh! :D

MizzouRah
01-05-2010, 06:06 PM
I wouldn't. The Lions did that last year. I just want Suh! :D

:lol:

JonInMiddleGA
01-05-2010, 06:23 PM
I just want Suh! :D

A boy named Suh?

(figured I might as well beat the draft day headline writers)

Logan
02-18-2010, 05:12 AM
Kiper's latest mock...spoilered for space


1. St. Louis Rams

Record: 1-15
Ndamukong Suh, DT, Nebraska

Clearly, the Rams need to figure out who will take the snaps, and it'll be interesting to see whether they are overwhelmed by one of the QB options. But unless St. Louis trades down -- which is always difficult given the economics of the draft -- Suh is a safe pick. As I've said before, on film he's maybe the most dominating defensive tackle I've seen. He can help immediately. Oddly, for a player so highly thought of, Suh may be even more versatile than some think.

2. Detroit Lions

Record: 2-14
Gerald McCoy*, DT, Oklahoma

McCoy or Suh will be a welcome sight for the Lions with the second pick, and McCoy is an extraordinarily good consolation prize for any team unable to get Suh. He's simply not that far behind the former Cornhusker in the eyes of personnel people. McCoy is highly disruptive and an ideal player to use as an attacking defensive tackle in a 4-3 scheme.

3. Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Record: 3-13
Eric Berry*, S, Tennessee

People will continue to debate the merits of taking a safety so high, but Berry is an exception to any rule. He could be the next to join the class of true difference-makers at the safety position with the likes of Troy Polamalu, Ed Reed (the most frequent comparison) and Bob Sanders. Berry is outstanding in coverage and far more physical than his size would indicate.

4. Washington Redskins

Record: 4-12
Jimmy Clausen*, QB, Notre Dame

Clausen will gain momentum after the combine. Once he's fully recovered from his toe surgery, he'll show teams he can make the throws, but there's more to it. His intelligence, competitiveness and toughness will impress personnel people, and his stock will rise. Clausen has under-center experience and was as close to mistake-free as he could be given his surroundings this past season.

5. Kansas City Chiefs

Record: 4-12
Anthony Davis, OT, Rutgers

Davis has the physical talent to be a Pro Bowl player early in his career, but he's still developing. Still, given a choice, the Chiefs can't pass on his upside, which is as high as any player's in the draft. A potential Walter Jones-like presence, if his development continues. The Chiefs also could move Branden Albert to the right side.

6. Seattle Seahawks

Record: 5-11
Sam Bradford*, QB, Oklahoma

The bottom line on Bradford: This quarterback has 10-point accuracy and could very well have gone ahead of Matthew Stafford as the No. 1 pick last year. He will have a chance to prove to many scouts he's still the elite prospect many believe him to be. It's fair to doubt him, but his talent is unquestionable.

7. Cleveland Browns

Record: 5-11
Joe Haden*, CB, Florida

Haden has the chance to be a top-five player at his position very quickly. He also fits an immediate need for Cleveland and is easily the top cornerback on the board, a player it can plug in from day one. A deft cover corner and great tackler, Haden is the total package.

8. Oakland Raiders

Record: 5-11
Jason Pierre-Paul*, DE, South Florida

Like Anthony Davis, Pierre-Paul has as much upside as any player in the draft. He's still raw by NFL standards but could contribute quickly just based on incredible athleticism. Once his pass-rushing skills are refined, he's a game-changer.

9. Buffalo Bills

Record: 6-10
Russell Okung, OT, Oklahoma State

The Bills should race to the podium as the Redskins did last year when Brian Orakpo landed in their laps. Significant need meets fantastic value here, with Okung being able to step in right away and help a weak offensive line.

10. Denver Broncos (from Chicago)

Record: 7-9
Dez Bryant*, WR, Oklahoma State

Obviously, a lot depends on whether Brandon Marshall is expected to be back come draft time, but if he isn't, this pick is a winner. You fill the void with the best deep threat in the draft. Bryant has great size and was unstoppable in the Big 12; he's a weapon in the passing game.

11. Jacksonville Jaguars

Record: 7-9
Derrick Morgan*, DE, Georgia Tech

In the first mock, I had Pierre-Paul in this spot, but his rising stock moves him up the board. Morgan certainly hasn't fallen as a prospect and should be snatched up quickly by the pass-rush-deficient Jags. He's as productive and versatile a player as there is in the draft.

12. Miami Dolphins

Record:7-9
Rolando McClain*, LB, Alabama

A great get for Miami, a team that needs an inside linebacker and could get the best one in the draft after the top 10. I mentioned before that the Dolphins also could go after Bryant if he were to fall to them here, because they also must address their need at wide receiver. Problem is after Bryant, there's a value gap. If McClain and Bryant are gone here, a trade down the board could be considered.

13. San Francisco 49ers

Record: 8-8
C.J. Spiller, RB, Clemson

In Spiller, the 49ers can add a player who complements Frank Gore in a way I don't think Glen Coffee can. Spiller is a home run threat and should spell Gore and diversify the offense. He also provides an upgrade in the return game.

14. Seattle Seahawks (from Denver)

Record: 5-11
Everson Griffen*, DE, USC

Seattle could use help on its O-line, but Griffen fills a significant need for pass-rush help here. The Seahawks will take a serious value hit if they select an offensive tackle here with Okung and Davis already off the board. Griffen also has a great size-speed combination, ideal on the edge of a 4-3.

15. New York Giants

Record: 8-8
Sergio Kindle, OLB, Texas

Kindle is a need pick for the Giants, who must get stronger in their linebacking corps and could use a little more help with situational pass-rushing than some think. Kindle will need to overcome size issues -- another way of saying he simply could add some bulk to a long (6-4) frame -- but he's proven far sturdier against the run than many who also can rush the passer.

16. San Francisco 49ers (from Carolina)

Record: 8-8
Trent Williams, OT, Oklahoma

Considering how good Williams is, even at a position that normally doesn't draw high-to-mid first-round picks, getting him here would be of solid value. Williams could step in immediately at right tackle, and the 49ers would upgrade up front.

17. Tennessee Titans

Record: 8-8
Carlos Dunlap*, DE, Florida

At a certain point, even questions surrounding a player's makeup can't overcome the talent, and getting a player like Dunlap at this stage is hard to question. With exceptional size and top-end athleticism for a defensive end, Dunlap should help disrupt opposing passers early in his career.

18. Pittsburgh Steelers

Record: 9-7
Mike Iupati, G, Idaho

Iupati was one of the breakout stars at the Senior Bowl. He fits what Pittsburgh likes as an athletic but powerful guard who should help return the Steelers' running game to the upper half of the league. Steve Hutchinson comparisons are legitimate. (Hutchinson went No. 17 overall in the 2001 draft.)

19. Atlanta Falcons

Record: 9-7
Kyle Wilson, CB, Boise State

Wilson is another player who jumped at the Senior Bowl. He's fluid, excellent in coverage and an immediate help on special teams. Wilson had a quiet season, but great cornerbacks often do. He simply wasn't challenged enough. Stock is now back on the rise.

20. Houston Texans

Record: 9-7
Brian Price*, DT, UCLA

One of the guys who carries over with the same team from the first mock. Price is hidden away a bit in such a deep class of defensive linemen, but he's a disruptive force who uses great leverage. He should help a defense that's really close to being very good.

21. Cincinnati Bengals

Record: 10-6
Demaryius Thomas, WR, Georgia Tech

Here's the big riser of the past couple of weeks. Thomas will be red-hot after the workouts get going. He's a big target (6-3, 225 pounds) and a downfield threat. He averaged more than 25 yards per catch and remained productive in a run-based offense based. Carson Palmer needs weapons, and Thomas can be one.

22. New England Patriots

Record: 10-6
Brandon Graham, OLB, Michigan

If production were all that mattered, Graham would be long gone by now. He led the FBS in tackles for loss and showed why at the Senior Bowl. Always in the backfield, he's an ideal outside linebacker for the Patriots' system, a terror against both the run and the pass.

23. Green Bay Packers

Record: 11-5
Bryan Bulaga*, OT, Iowa

The more you listen to Green Bay's people, the more you get the sense that keeping Aaron Rodgers upright is a major priority, and it should be, because seeing an MVP-level talent knocked out because of a lack of protection is a sad thought. Bulaga can help immediately, and he has room to grow.

24. Philadelphia Eagles

Record: 11-5
Taylor Mays, S, USC

The Eagles are looking for that heir to Brian Dawkins, a physical safety who can scare opposing receivers and contribute to the rush defense. Mays has everything you could ask for as a physical package. He had a bad season, and there are legit concerns, but Mays still reeks of top-level NFL athleticism. He just needs to put it together.

25. Baltimore Ravens

Record: 9-7
Arrelious Benn*, WR, Illinois

Every indication out of Baltimore is that this organization is committed to finding pieces that can help Joe Flacco. If Benn shows scouts he has the necessary speed, everything else is there. He is physical, can run after the catch and can even help in the return game.

26. Arizona Cardinals

Record: 10-6
Dan Williams, DT, Tennessee

I kept Williams here as a solid remedy to fill the Cardinals' second-biggest need. Just a tremendously strong player, starting with exceptional drive from his lower body, Williams is a disruptive force against the run and is a great help to linebackers.

27. Dallas Cowboys

Record: 11-5
Bruce Campbell*, OT, Maryland

Cowboys fans with bad memories of getting thrashed up front in the playoffs should be thrilled to get a talent like Campbell right here. Campbell should see his stock rise at the combine, where his athleticism will be on display. If the Cowboys are serious about addressing their biggest need, this is the direction they need to go.

28. San Diego Chargers

Record: 13-3
Terrence Cody, DT, Alabama

As I explained earlier this week, I expect to see Cody's stock rise because he may be the purest example in this draft of a guy who, limitations aside, specifically fits a scheme. Cody is the prototype block-occupying clogger in a 3-4 scheme. You can question his weight or his versatility, but he can make other players better. Remember, Jamal Williams' injury is a factor here.

29. New York Jets

Record: 9-7
Devin McCourty, CB, Rutgers

The Jets could use some receiving help for Mark Sanchez here as well, but McCourty is a guy whose stock could skyrocket if he runs the way many think he will. The Jets can get exposed when passers throw away from Darrelle Revis, and McCourty could be the answer on the other side.

30. Minnesota Vikings

Record: 12-4
Maurkice Pouncey, G/C, Florida

The Vikings could use help on the interior of their offensive line, and Pouncey has a first-round grade as a guard, which makes him an outstanding player. The Vikes did well when they looked to Gainesville in the first round last year.

31. Indianapolis Colts

Record: 14-2
Jared Odrick, DT, Penn State

One of the areas in which Indy could use help is along the interior of its defensive line, and Odrick can help the linebackers run free and be disruptive in his own right. Like Williams at No. 26, a great talent buried a little bit in a deep class of defensive linemen.

32. New Orleans Saints

Record: 14-2
Sean Weatherspoon, OLB, Missouri

Weatherspoon fits like a glove for the Saints as an outside linebacker in 4-3 system. He has ideal size for the position and is a tackling machine. Weatherspoon has the speed and experience to play inside or out, so adding versatility is also a good value proposition.



Personally, this is about as good as it can get, with a great combination of picks for the Niners in Spiller and Williams, and two Rutgers guys going in the first round, with Anthony Davis in the top 5.

Doug5984
02-18-2010, 08:35 AM
I'd love if the Saints could get Witherspoon- although we do have some young guys who were on IR last year... Really I hope we pick the best available player. If anything I say go for another CB- I think Jenkins really has a future at S more than CB, and it showed good our top 2 are when they and our # 3 went down. It'd be nice to add more depth to that position.
Or another DT to play opposite Ellis.

albionmoonlight
02-18-2010, 08:58 AM
I'd love if the Saints could get Witherspoon- although we do have some young guys who were on IR last year... Really I hope we pick the best available player. If anything I say go for another CB- I think Jenkins really has a future at S more than CB, and it showed good our top 2 are when they and our # 3 went down. It'd be nice to add more depth to that position.
Or another DT to play opposite Ellis.

The Saints front office seems very committed to BPA.

Dr. Sak
02-18-2010, 09:03 AM
I'd love for the Eagles to get Taylor Mays.

gkb
02-18-2010, 11:20 AM
I'd much rather the Broncos go with Rolando McClain than Dez Bryant. I have no idea what McDaniels will do though - I guess a lot will depend on how free agency works out.

Logan
02-18-2010, 01:19 PM
I have no idea what McDaniels will do though

If history is any indication...something stupid.

Samdari
02-18-2010, 01:52 PM
No way the 49ers go RB in the first.

And no Kindle lasts until 15th.

kingfc22
02-18-2010, 02:04 PM
No way the 49ers go RB in the first.

No way indeed. 49ers need to get any combination of two (OL, Pass Rushing DE, Playmaking S) with their first round selections.

Logan
02-18-2010, 02:23 PM
I've read so much that they would be interested for the reasons Kiper mentioned (Gore complement, return ability) that it either makes me think it's legit...or they're trying to entice someone to move up for Spiller.

Lathum
02-18-2010, 03:10 PM
I think the Giants need to look hard at Kyle Wilson, the secondary was horrific last year and it is much easier to get a LB in free agency than a CB.

tarcone
02-18-2010, 08:28 PM
Pundits are suggesting that DT McCoy would be a better fit for the Rams.

B & B
02-18-2010, 08:42 PM
Pundits are funny.



I will be the first person on the planet to order a Suh jersey in honolulu blue.

miked
02-18-2010, 08:53 PM
McCourty sucks.

Logan
02-18-2010, 09:36 PM
McCourty sucks.

At what?

Izulde
02-18-2010, 09:54 PM
I'd be stoked to get McClain on the Dolphins. Or, if he and Bryant are both gone, trade down for more picks and grab Golden Tate.

miked
02-19-2010, 09:16 AM
At what?

Defense? He has 6 picks in 4 seasons, he had about 9 PDs last season in 12 games, 3 of which came against FIU. They seem to love him because he can return and block kicks, but in the NFL there are what, like 3 blocked punts a season?

Logan
02-19-2010, 09:42 AM
No, they seem to love him because he is an outstanding cover corner who can actually tackle people and isn't a liability in run support. But keep on thinking that INTs are what defines a great corner. McCourty actually officially defended 10 passes last year, and that number is tied with the consensus #1 CB in Joe Haden.

edit: And just for shits and giggles, Darrelle Revis had 2 INTs and 4 passes defended in 12 games during his last year at Pitt.

But go ahead, you can tell me why you don't think McCourty is a 1st rou...oh wait, no please tell me why he "sucks" which I assume to mean he isn't worthy of being selected before the 4th round or so (I'll give you the benefit of the doubt on that one).

miked
02-19-2010, 09:57 AM
LOL, I'm just going by watching the RU defense I guess. Not sure what makes him a first rounder and I think the McCourty twins were probably the most overrated DBs. I am anti-twin.

Logan
02-19-2010, 10:18 AM
Well at least you're honest.

MizzouRah
02-24-2010, 09:11 PM
I wouldn't. The Lions did that last year. I just want Suh! :D

Listening to Adam Schefter today on the radio.. he actually made sense stating once Sam Bradford starts working out for NFL teams, the Rams will start to salvate over the now healthy Bradford who could wow the QB hungry Rams.

It's definitely interesting...

Suburban Rhythm
02-28-2010, 09:14 AM
Did Al Davis find his 1st and 2nd round picks yesterday?

Bruce Davis and Dorin Dickerson put up some really good combine numbers at T and TE yesterday.

Samdari
03-01-2010, 07:36 AM
Listening to Adam Schefter today on the radio.. he actually made sense stating once Sam Bradford starts working out for NFL teams, the Rams will start to salvate over the now healthy Bradford who could wow the QB hungry Rams.

It's definitely interesting...

This is stunning to me. They would be passing up a guy with the highest grade in 20 years for the next Alex Smith. Maybe they are putting this out to try to get teams (the Redskins?) to trade up?

MizzouRah
03-01-2010, 11:04 PM
This is stunning to me. They would be passing up a guy with the highest grade in 20 years for the next Alex Smith. Maybe they are putting this out to try to get teams (the Redskins?) to trade up?

I'm not sure.. apparently there is a war in Rams camp about SUH vs Bradford.. although the SUH camp says forget Bradford and get McNabb from Philly. :)

albionmoonlight
03-02-2010, 08:08 AM
Where is Colt McCoy expected to go? Considering that he won eleventy-billion games over 4 years in a BCS conference, I would expect him to be seen as a top guy. What "measurables" is he lacking that are keeping him from being seen as one of the top picks?

JPhillips
03-02-2010, 08:46 AM
The Rams have recently passed on Sanchez, Ryan and Cutler in favor of a safe pick and look where it's gotten them. Suh may be the better pick, but at some point they need a franchise QB and if they believe Claussen or Bradford is that guy they need to take him.

Logan
03-10-2010, 05:17 PM
<3 Deadspin headline writers.

Report: NFL Draft Prospect Once Put His Tremendous Upside In His Sister - Tony Washington - Deadspin (http://deadspin.com/5490101/report-nfl-draft-prospect-once-put-his-tremendous-upside-in-his-sister)

endemicFOF
03-11-2010, 06:21 PM
If they think Bradford is a franchise QB, and I think they do(as do I), you have to take him. An NFL team doesn't get many chances to grab a stud QB, and while a stud DT may be the 2nd most valuable position in football, the QB is still king.

Logan
04-13-2010, 08:40 AM
Sport Science: Ndamukong Suh - ESPN Video - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=5073955)

Matthean
04-13-2010, 09:04 AM
Sport Science: Ndamukong Suh - ESPN Video - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=5073955)

Won't change much, but it would be nice to compare him to other DTs.
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Logan
04-13-2010, 10:15 AM
Not sure who else has been tested, but at the very least he beat out Kris Jenkins in the force test.

B & B
04-25-2010, 10:18 AM
Pundits are funny.



I will be the first person on the planet to order a Suh jersey in honolulu blue.



Just ordered a bunch of Suh #90 merchandise from the NFL shop. If anyone wants to get some personalized gear for their favorite new player then use the VISANFL code and get 15% off at checkout.


Oh, and I also noticed that back in week 13 of last years NFL season that Bradford/Locker was gonna be going to St.Louis. Pretty hard to make draft predictions with four weeks left to go in the regular season, but nice to be dead on about the first two picks back in December.

k0ruptr
04-25-2010, 03:44 PM
I'd much rather the Broncos go with Rolando McClain than Dez Bryant. I have no idea what McDaniels will do though - I guess a lot will depend on how free agency works out.

If history is any indication...something stupid.

DING DING DING! you guys were on it in February!

Logan
04-25-2010, 10:09 PM
I'm a genius.