NFL Week 14 - Half the US is lucky they don't have NFLN edition

[DeToxRox]

Browns vs Steelers.

Yep.

[cougarfreak]

Browns vs Steelers.

Yep.

Why, so they don't have to watch the Steelers suck?

[henry296]

Completey and utterly disappointed in the Steelers. I know the weather is bad, but I think they have negative yards of offense in the first half...

[Logan]

+32 actually. Do they look like they'll be able to put anything together in the 2nd half?

[Tigercat]

Why did anyone think the Steelers would kill the Browns? On the road on a short week? After losing to an almost equally hapless Raiders team? A Super Bowl win last year doesn't change the nature of the Steelers' struggles this year.

[Lathum]

I'm not sure the whole Thursday night thing works. This is the second week in a row I have forgotten there is a game on.

[Logan]

Doesn't help that the last two weeks have been terrible games that you knew would be boring.

[Dr. Sak]

3 weeks...that Giants/Broncos game sucked too

[Lathum]

Doesn't help that the last two weeks have been terrible games that you knew would be boring.

True, but I am pretty die hard, I'll watch about any game. I just forgot completely.

[Lathum]

3 weeks...that Giants/Broncos game sucked too

you aren't kidding.

I hope the game Sunday night is better, of course, I'll be in Vegas, which makes everything better.

[Tigercat]

Next weeks NFLN games are definitely a step up, Jags/Colts Thurs., Cowboys/Saints Sat.

[Abe Sargent]

Wow Ben

[Abe Sargent]

Love ta see the Browns win tonight

[Celeval]

Good moments for the Browns have been few and far between, but this was one.

[RendeR]

*cackles*

Go Browns. Just fucking GO BRowns.

LOVE seeing this win. LOVED IT!

[Groundhog]

8 sacks? Really?

[Aylmar]

Steelers are the worst team in the NFL right now. I'm embarrassed that I actually typed a defense of these hacks a few weeks ago. I just loved the shuffling around at the end of the game. No urgency, didn't go to the no huddle, didn't really change things up at all. Arians needs to go at the end of the season. What a joke.

[Swaggs]

As much as I like Tomlin and his staff, it is tough not to pin these last few losses on the coaching staff w/ as close as the games have been and the calibre of teams they have been losing against. Up until tonight (w/ a pretty weak remaining schedule and Polamalu returning), I thought they could pull things together and comfortably get into the playoffs -- now, I think they keep hoping to play tough and win, but they need to see what they have in some of the young guys like Urbik, Hood, the cornerbacks, Sweed, etc.

[Aylmar]

As much as I like Tomlin and his staff, it is tough not to pin these last few losses on the coaching staff w/ as close as the games have been and the calibre of teams they have been losing against. Up until tonight (w/ a pretty weak remaining schedule and Polamalu returning), I thought they could pull things together and comfortably get into the playoffs -- now, I think they keep hoping to play tough and win, but they need to see what they have in some of the young guys like Urbik, Hood, the cornerbacks, Sweed, etc.

The worst part is the lack of fire. They've been bad before, obviously, but they always seemed to play with some heart. That has been lacking this season. I say again, Arians should be fired at the end of the season. I'd fire him tonight, but that's not the way the Rooneys do things. Can't manage a single touchdown against the Browns? Really? Maybe it's time for Bruce to start discovering his calling in life, because it's not as an offensive football coach.

[RendeR]

As much as I like Tomlin and his staff, it is tough not to pin these last few losses on the coaching staff w/ as close as the games have been and the calibre of teams they have been losing against. Up until tonight (w/ a pretty weak remaining schedule and Polamalu returning), I thought they could pull things together and comfortably get into the playoffs -- now, I think they keep hoping to play tough and win, but they need to see what they have in some of the young guys like Urbik, Hood, the cornerbacks, Sweed, etc.


weak remainging schedule?

Baltimore, Jacksonville and miami?

Thats not weak.

[MikeVic]

I don't even know what to say. Best of luck to the AFC teams in the playoffs, should be fun this year.

[RedKingGold]

That offensive line is baaaaaaaaaaad

[MrDNA]

This is our Superbowl - that's sad - and I'll take it :)

[Julio Riddols]

Count me in as one of those who really likes seeing this.

[Butter]

That game last night was the best thing ever. They've unleashed hell 2 weeks in a row.

[Dr. Sak]

I love listening to Pittsburgh Talk Radio after the Steelers lose...some gems I heard this morning:

"Tomlin should be fired. Do you think Cowher would come back?"

"Ben isn't getting the job done, I think it's time Dixon gets his shot."

"Limus Sweed should play over Ward."

"This is one of the most depressing days of my life. Last time I was this depressed my father died."

[Honolulu_Blue]

Steelers are the worst team in the NFL right now.


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[RomaGoth]

The worst part is the lack of fire. They've been bad before, obviously, but they always seemed to play with some heart. That has been lacking this season. I say again, Arians should be fired at the end of the season. I'd fire him tonight, but that's not the way the Rooneys do things. Can't manage a single touchdown against the Browns? Really? Maybe it's time for Bruce to start discovering his calling in life, because it's not as an offensive football coach.

Very disappointing last night. Not much else to say.

[flere-imsaho]

You really have to wonder, at this point, if the Steelers would beat either Tampa Bay or Detroit (who are, I have to think, currently the two worst teams in football).

[JonInMiddleGA]

Atlanta Falcons defensive tackle Jonathan Babineaux was arrested on charges of possession of marijuana with intent to distribute after a police officer said he smelled marijuana in the player's SUV during a routine traffic stop Thursday night. ... The team is aware of the arrest, and Babineaux is set to meet with team offiicials Friday morning.

Babineaux was with another man, 25-year-old Aaron Robinson Minneapolis, who also was arrested. Robinson was charged with possession of marijuana with intent to distribute, a felony.

Babinaeux and Robinson were stopped around 10:45 p.m. Thursday as they drove north on I-85 in Babineaux's 2005 Cadillac Escalade EXT.

"It's cut and dry," Gwinnett police spokesman Cpl. David Schiralli told the AJC. "He was stopped for a traffic violation."

Schiralli said the officer searched the SUV because he smelled marijuana. The officer found three bags containing a total of 40 grams of marijuana, Schiralli said.

In addition to the possession charges, Babineaux is charged with having no tag light and driving without a license and with an expired tag. He also was charged with tinting his car windows too much.

Falcons' Jonathan Babineaux jailed on drug charges *| ajc.com (http://www.ajc.com/sports/atlanta-falcons/falcons-jonathan-babineaux-jailed-238019.html)

[RedKingGold]

Ben just got sacked again.

[Kodos]

I wish I could find a good Seinfeld "Sack Lunch" picture.

[Samdari]

That offensive line is baaaaaaaaaaad

I don't know. I watched mostly the SU game last night, but when flipping back to the NFL game, I somehow saw 4 of the sacks. On 3 of them, they came AFTER 5 seconds. Any sack after 3.5 seconds in the NFL, its the QBs fault for not getting rid of the ball.

[panerd]

http://wearpower.com/images/axis/items/rochelle.png?1193113924I wish I could find a good Seinfeld "Sack Lunch" picture.

[DeToxRox]

You really have to wonder, at this point, if the Steelers would beat either Tampa Bay or Detroit (who are, I have to think, currently the two worst teams in football).

Well they already did beat Detroit, with Culpepper starting and Calvin Johnson out, but it wasn't a blowout and the Steelers didn't look good then.

This slide has been coming for a while.

[Passacaglia]

The Steelers should change their colors to match the Iowa Hawkeyes. Those guys are winners.

[cartman]

The Steelers should change their colors to match the Iowa Hawkeyes. Those guys are winners.

6-7

[Big Fo]

My Dolphins are in Jacksonville this weekend and I'll be making the drive down. I'm looking forward to it, it's been a few years since I saw an NFL game in person and it's a very important game for both teams. Hopefully Miami can maintain their good form (fourth quarter in Buffalo aside) of late.

[mauchow]

lol at the Bungals going for another play deep in their territory only to have it backfire.. winfield makes a nice tackle, forcing a fumble and allowing the Vikings to get another 3 points on the board before halftime.

[Eaglesfan27]

The Falcons just got screwed out of a nice interception.

[Tigercat]

The Falcons just got screwed out of a nice interception.

If you let that go you can just put the strongest DB you can find and have him push WRs out of the way until the DB is in position to make a INT. It is one thing if you push the WR out the way with your shoulder for a second, but the Atlanta DB did it for a good 20 yards. Easy and correct call, even if one hates to punish and take away the good defensive play at the end.

[DeToxRox]

I know the Bengals are a nice story and all but their offense is just awful lately. Carson Palmer has been a huge disappointment.

[Tigercat]

Although I will say Atlanta has had bad luck with penalties since mid point of the 2nd quarter. (Before that all the calls were on the Saints.) Would be nice to see the refs bury their flags for the rest of this game.

[DaddyTorgo]

Patriots are putrid. Brady's gotta be hurting. Whether it's the lack of sleep from the baby (although I find that hard to believe) or the rib/finger (rib supposedly broken) he looks bad. Team just looks listless and without energy.

[rowech]

I know the Bengals are a nice story and all but their offense is just awful lately. Carson Palmer has been a huge disappointment.

It's entirely due to the loss of Chris Henry. There is no vertical stretching to the field anymore.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Chicago now leads GB 14-13 with about a minute left in Q3.
WTF?

[SirFozzie]

Brady is doing on arm strength.. he's still not driving through. Wes Welker.. If he keeps this up.. yes, there's plenty of career left.. borderline HoFer?

[JonInMiddleGA]

Falcons & Saints now tied at 23 with 12:56 left in regulation.

[DeToxRox]

Brady is doing on arm strength.. he's still not driving through. Wes Welker.. If he keeps this up.. yes, there's plenty of career left.. borderline HoFer?

Probably yes for Welker. He will go down as the GOAT as a slot WR imo. He needs 3-4 more seasons like this to be a lock.

[Crapshoot]

WTF Is New Orleans doing? 3 passes with 2:20 left, and than a fake field goal? When they are up by 3 ?

[SirFozzie]

SportsGuy Mentioned that Brady is wearing the rib armor.. The Flak Vest.. he's probably got at least one broken rib

[DaddyTorgo]

yeah. if he's that hurt i woulda rather seen himself take himself outa the game. clearly it's been affecting him (along with the finger and the baby)

[Galaril]

Well one thing from watching the Broncos today they better drafts a whole new interior O line because these guys either suck or need to retire. And god what were they thinking have there power back be a injury prone Buckhalter?

[SirFozzie]

20 catches for Marshall against the Colts.

NFL NEEDS PATCH NAO!

[Noop]

20 catches? Is that a record?

[SirFozzie]

20 catches? Is that a record?

Ties it, (T.O. when he was on the Niners, think one other did)

[Galaril]

20 catches for Marshall against the Colts.

NFL NEEDS PATCH NAO!

Yeah he ties single game record. He might wind up with 27-28 catches. But, McDaniels crappy play calling will lose them this one.

[DeToxRox]

Did Carolina really stop NE then rough the kicker on the punt? Christ.

[Noop]

Miami needs to pull this one out.

[Hammer755]

Brady is doing on arm strength.. he's still not driving through. Wes Welker.. If he keeps this up.. yes, there's plenty of career left.. borderline HoFer?

HoF is a pretty hearty prediction for a guy with only 3 1,000 seasons and 16 TD's at age 28. He is tough to project, though, since he spent almost all of his Miami time as primarily a return man. But who knows how long the NE offense can run at this pace?

[Noop]

How about those Dolphins?

[MrDNA]

Saints and Colts at 13-0. Utterly amazing.

[DaddyTorgo]

Did Carolina really stop NE then rough the kicker on the punt? Christ.

yep!

[Galaril]

Saints and Colts at 13-0. Utterly amazing.

So, I am wondering if we get two teams to go 18-0 through the playoofs into the SB if that have fans complaining that there is not enough parody in the NFL or something like expanding the NFL playoffs to more teams.I personally would not mind the league adding two more wild card teams.

[Galaril]

HoF is a pretty hearty prediction for a guy with only 3 1,000 seasons and 16 TD's at age 28. He is tough to project, though, since he spent almost all of his Miami time as primarily a return man. But who knows how long the NE offense can run at this pace?

That is the key for Welker for sure.

[MrDNA]

So, I am wondering if we get two teams to go 18-0 through the playoofs into the SB if that have fans complaining that there is not enough parody in the NFL or something like expanding the NFL playoffs to more teams.I personally would not mind the league adding two more wild card teams.

I personally think it would be awesome for two undefeated teams to meet in the Superbowl. I don't think I would parody that at all (the word you're looking for is parity :p )

[Ronnie Dobbs2]

The Pats are back, baby!

[Hammer755]

I personally think it would be awesome for two undefeated teams to meet in the Superbowl. I don't think I would parody that at all (the word you're looking for is parity :p )

I would love it for the sole purpose of seeing the reaction of the 72 Dolphins.

[DeToxRox]

Chris Johnson already with a 39 yard TD run. He's going for 200 today.

[DaddyTorgo]

The Pats are back, baby!

false. still plenty of problems with this team.

[Noop]

As long as its not the Patriots or Jets I am fine with another team going undefeated and winning it all.

[Matthean]

Needless to say the Lions mailed it in today losing 48-3.
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[DeToxRox]

Chris Johnson with a 66 yard TD reception.

[Pumpy Tudors]

I am finding comedy in the fact that the St. Louis quarterback is named "Null."

[Ronnie Dobbs2]

false. still plenty of problems with this team.

That was sarcasm. The game was pretty putrid save Welker's effort.

[DaddyTorgo]

That was sarcasm. The game was pretty
putrid save Welker's effort.

musta missed the sarcasm, but of course i agree

[Schmidty]

I can't believe that I watched the entire Lions game. My brain is fried.

[kingfc22]

Suck it cowgirls.

Glad you can't score from the 1 yard line with 4 attempts.

[Radii]

Awesome goal line stand for San Diego

[JPhillips]

It's entirely due to the loss of Chris Henry. There is no vertical stretching to the field anymore.

Not sure about that. I think Palmer's elbow is still messed up. They haven't been able to throw downfield all year.

[DaddyTorgo]

Suck it cowgirls.

Glad you can't score from the 1 yard line with 4 attempts.

+1

[Scoobz0202]

Fucking Nick Folk... Time for Jerry to send his ass to the unemployment line.

[bhlloy]

Unbelievable stand from the Chargers, especially when you consider who they have left on the defensive line and that the Cowboys are one of the best power running games in the league. And then follow that up with the stand and missed FG 30 seconds later... WOW

Folk has been terrible all year, I don't know why the Cowboys keep him around. Maybe Tubby is just too nice a guy to cut somebody before christmas?

[Radii]

I am finding comedy in the fact that the St. Louis quarterback is named "Null."

From cbs.sportsline.com

QB Keith Null, a former protege of legendary NFL bust Ryan Leaf when he was quarterbacks coach at West Texas A&M, started out 7 of 8 but has gone 1 of 6 since. Tennessee is currently outgaining St. Louis 132 to 47 in passing yards.

[DaddyTorgo]

the "silent buzzer booth review" thing is bullshit. gonna job the raiders out of a nice completion.

[Matthean]

So, I am wondering if we get two teams to go 18-0 through the playoofs into the SB if that have fans complaining that there is not enough parody in the NFL or something like expanding the NFL playoffs to more teams.I personally would not mind the league adding two more wild card teams.

History shows the Colts prefer resting players and making sure they are healthy for a SB run. Note the lack of playoff success for the Colts when they do this. Compare it to when they went full speed ahead ended up winning the SB. Colts admitted they won't do the push this year and face a possible lengthy cruise control mode. The Saints have said they would go for it.
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[Scoobz0202]

Interesting. Why would they not go full speed ahead. Do they not put much stock in the sample size of two seasons?

[DeToxRox]

History shows the Colts prefer resting players and making sure they are healthy for a SB run. Note the lack of playoff success for the Colts when they do this. Compare it to when they went full speed ahead ended up winning the SB. Colts admitted they won't do the push this year and face a possible lengthy cruise control mode. The Saints have said they would go for it.
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We'll see how Caldwell responds to it tho. I think he's gonna keep the pedal down.

[Matthean]

Interesting. Why would they not go full speed ahead. Do they not put much stock in the sample size of two seasons?

It just seems put of their philosophy that they would rather rest players and kind of not worry so much about W-L at the end if it doesn't really matter. For a team that has dominated for as much as they have, they have one title to show for it.

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[Radii]

We'll see how Caldwell responds to it tho. I think he's gonna keep the pedal down.

There was a segment on ESPN's pregame stuff this morning where they quoted him as saying he intends to do things the same way Dungy did in the final weeks of the season.

[Radii]

dola, apparently the info on the colts comes from Peter King:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/peter_king/11/30/week12/1.html


I asked Caldwell if the Colts would handle the last two or three games of the year differently than they did under Dungy. You're familiar with the national debate about going for the undefeated season. The Patriots went for it in 2007 and got to 16-0, only to lose in the Super Bowl. The Colts have thumbed their noses at it, preferring to be in the best possible physical condition entering the playoffs. That's how Dungy and Bill Polian believed the season should be -- once you've earned home-field advantage, rest your players and be in good position for the second season. Caldwell sounded no different Sunday afternoon when we spoke.

"It'll be somewhat similar to what we've done,'' he said. "Going undefeated was always a secondary goal. I don't think we'll put too much emphasis on that.''

[jbergey22]

Nice job of the Chargers to turn this season around. They looked horrid their first couple of games this year.

[Scoobz0202]

Oh god. D Ware is down for the Cowboys. He was falling forward and rammed his head into an oncoming player. He's been down for awhile. The cart has been brought out.

Get up Ware :(

[Scoobz0202]

He was strapped to the stretcher and put on the cart. he gave the thumbs up.

Hopefully this is all just precautionary and he is alright.

[BishopMVP]

As long as its not the Patriots or Jets I am fine with another team going undefeated and winning it all.Isn't there a 4th team in the AFC East? ;)

[EagleFan]

So, I am wondering if we get two teams to go 18-0 through the playoofs into the SB if that have fans complaining that there is not enough parody in the NFL or something like expanding the NFL playoffs to more teams.I personally would not mind the league adding two more wild card teams.

I don't think there needs to be any more teams in the playoffs but I think that 2 18-0 teams in the Super Bowl would be great (if the Eagles can't make it that is). Hopefully that would shut Mercury Morris and the rest of that whiney team up for good.

[Abe Sargent]

THey announced Ware's condition on the loudspeaker

[jbergey22]

Kind of excited about tonights game. Seems like everything else is decided in the NFC except the NFC East and which 1 of these 4 teams will be left out of the playoffs.(Eagles, Giants, Cowboys, Packers)

I think the Eagles are a better matchup for the Vikings so I will be cheering for them.

[EagleFan]

lol, "I would trade a couple of those catches for a win."

[mauchow]

Just as long as the Vikings don't get the Cardinals.. lol

At least it would be at home if that turns out to be the case.

[mauchow]

"But we have goals, and our only goal is to win games. I'd definitely trade in a couple of those catches for a win." Marshall

[Eaglesfan27]

Kind of excited about tonights game. Seems like everything else is decided in the NFC except the NFC East and which 1 of these 4 teams will be left out of the playoffs.(Eagles, Giants, Cowboys, Packers)

I think the Eagles are a better matchup for the Vikings so I will be cheering for them.

Why do you think the Eagles are a better matchup?

Looking forward to tonight's game. :)

[jbergey22]

Why do you think the Eagles are a better matchup?

Looking forward to tonight's game. :)

Vikings match up better against speed than size IMO.

I kind of like the idea of Green Bay at Philly in the 4/5 game as well. I see them more capable of winning at New Orleans than the Cowboys or Giants.

[Eaglesfan27]

Vikings match up better against speed than size IMO.

I kind of like the idea of Green Bay at Philly in the 4/5 game as well. I see them more capable of winning at New Orleans than the Cowboys or Giants.

I'd like to see that match-up. Philly makes the opening drive look easy. :)

[MikeVic]

I am finding comedy in the fact that the St. Louis quarterback is named "Null."

Yeah, when I turned in to the game and saw something about Null at the top of the screen, I thought it was a glitch and they forgot to fill in a name or something. Nope, his name is actually Null lol.

[Dr. Sak]

BRANDON JACOBS MVP!!!

[dubb93]

dola, apparently the info on the colts comes from Peter King:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/peter_king/11/30/week12/1.html

Sadly I do believe this to be the case. So what does this mean? If it is true the Colts will take a month off and then expect to defeat a team that has been running full steam ahead since week 1 and is good enough to make it past the first weekend of the playoffs. If they rest again I expect the Colts to get crushed in the playoffs again.

Here is a quote I heard from Polian following the win on the Colts radio network. The guy is a great team builder however I can see why he has not had much playoff success.

"It feels good not having to go down to Jacksonville on thursday and win.."

My mouth hit the floor. I honestly can't believe a guy could be so good at building up teams and then be such an idiot when it comes to common sense. You can't take a freaking month off and expect to beat an elite NFL team. You just can't simply do it. Hopefully the local media/fans make him see that he is being an idiot. Ultimately Polian is the boss and Caldwell(regardless what his true feelings are) is going to have to do what Polian says.

[Eaglesfan27]

Wacky play. Trotter lets a ball go through his hands and it falls right into Boss' hands.

[Dr. Sak]

Wacky play. Trotter lets a ball go through his hands and it falls right into Boss' hands.

And Mikel stood there with his thumb up his ass.

[MikeVic]

Wow Nicks, you have to catch that.

[MikeVic]

Hahaha what a way to redeem yourself!

[Dr. Sak]

I guess rape on Tight Ends is allowed in NY

[EagleFan]

I guess rape on Tight Ends is allowed in NY

I hope he bought him dinner first at least.

[sabotai]

I guess the Giants defense is good evidence that sometimes the defensive coordinator can make all of the difference in how good a defense is. It's nice that they stopped them on the goal line, but it looks like the Eagles could spend all night moving down the field with ease.

And can Celek and McNabb act like bigger babies over not getting a flag? McNabb was literally flailing his arms and legs while on the ground over it.

[jbergey22]

I just wonder when the Eagles do this crazy stuff like sticking Vick at WR if they actually expect the Giants to believe he is going to run a route. I mean seriously how much deception is their in a play like that at the 1 yard line. Over coaching again Reid it will cost you in big games.

[Big Fo]

The Miami-Jacksonville game today was a weird one. Miami had a -3 turnover differential and didn't score after halfway through the second quarter but still won thanks to some great defensive play and Jacksonville's sorry passing attack. It never should have been that close, Miami's three turnovers were all in Jacksonville territory (and it might have been worse, they fumbled five times and the Jags only recovered two of them) and they dominated statistically (except for the turnovers of course). Henne played well, completing 17 in a row at one point. 7-3 as a starter now.

My brother and I had a great time at the game, we were seated amongst a bunch of Dolphins fans (who must have been close to half of the 60,000 attending, Jacksonville's most attended game this season) and we enjoyed some mostly good-natured banter with the home fans. One nine-year-old Jags fan seemed to resent our cheering and repeatedly gave us the throat-slash gesture which was hilarious. Turning their "let's go Jaguars" chant into "L.A. Jaguars" after Miami clinched the win seemed to piss a few people off though. Good times.

[EagleFan]

Yeah!!!!!

[cuervo72]

I think I need a DeSean Jackson jersey.

[Eaglesfan27]

DeSean Jackson is unbelievable.

[EagleFan]

I think I need a DeSean Jackson jersey.

You have to run at least 50 yards every time you put it on though... :)

[Dr. Sak]

Boom goes the dynamite

[Galaril]

I personally think it would be awesome for two undefeated teams to meet in the Superbowl. I don't think I would parody that at all (the word you're looking for is parity :p )

Thanks typo:redface:

[EagleFan]

Damn, that would have been HUGE if the Eagles recovered that.

[tucker rocky]

Yeah!!!!!

:thumbsup:

[jbergey22]

The MVP is seeing a lot of pine this game.

[Eaglesfan27]

DeSean with another big play. :)

[sabotai]

Sometime around Nov. 6th - Q&A with Bill Sheridan

Q. When people like Justin Tuck and Antonio Pierce say there is a problem with communication, what do they mean?

A. You have to ask them. I don’t know what they are talking about. They haven’t come to me regarding that. I am not trying to shut the question down but particularly I don’t know, you have to ask them. They could explain it to you, what they are referring to.

Q. You sense no problem in communication?

A. No, no. But, if there is, I would love to hear about it.



Wonder if he's been informed yet....

[Eaglesfan27]

Eagles got screwed there. Watching it live, I thought there was time left, and seeing the replay, clearly 2 seconds were on the clock.

Overall, a very entertaining 1st half. :)

[Dr. Sak]

Man would've been nice to get a FG off that fumble.

[jbergey22]

The defense on vacation this game?

[cuervo72]

The defense on vacation this game?

Seriously, seems like the Eagles will need to score 50 to win this.

[Dr. Sak]

Eli you are clutch

[Eaglesfan27]

Thanks Eli!

[sabotai]

Seriously, seems like the Eagles will need to score 50 to win this.

Seems like the Giants need to score 56. :)

And too many times I've felt like reaching for the Picard facepalm emoticon while watching the Giants.

[tucker rocky]

Fumble or no?

[jbergey22]

Looks like a fumble to me. I dont see how they can change that.

[sabotai]

As much as I want it to not be a fumble, there's no way that's conclusive.

[Dr. Sak]

I don't see how you can say definitively that the contact caused him to fall.

[sabotai]

Heh, Collingsworth just summed it up. "I've never seen so many blown coverages in a game."

[jbergey22]

With the way these two teams are playing defense, punting seems like a bad move.

[jbergey22]

Wow, ugly!

[DeToxRox]

So the Giants secondary can't cover, and the Eagles secondary can't tackle.

[sabotai]

With the way these two teams are playing defense, punting seems like a bad move.

Talk about a prophetic statement...

[jbergey22]

Good effort #26. Is it flag football?

[MrDNA]

Is tackling illegal now?

[Crapshoot]

At some point , would you cover DeSean Jackson? Because I think it may be a good idea.

[DeToxRox]

Nice job Gmen.

[tucker rocky]

Amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Crapshoot]

PS, what a shootout. This is like a Sunday night dream.

[jbergey22]

PS, what a shootout. This is like a Sunday night dream.

Not if you are trying to fend off people in fantasy football and they have a lot of guys playing in the game.

Deshaun Jackson is killing me.

Thought I was sitting good being up 25 points with Warner left against Jackson and Boss, Now its looking questionable.

[kingfc22]

And why did the Niners pass on Jackson......ugh!

[DeToxRox]

Hicks figured it's easier scoring against the guys in blue there.

[Crapshoot]

And why did the Niners pass on Jackson......ugh!

Yeah, lets no go there. Too depressing.

If they did a do-over of last years draft, how high would Jackson go? Top 5?

[jbergey22]

Yeah, lets no go there. Too depressing.

If they did a do-over of last years draft, how high would Jackson go? Top 5?

Yes top 5 I believe. He is as big of a weapon as anyone in the game right now.

[DeToxRox]

Yeah, lets no go there. Too depressing.

If they did a do-over of last years draft, how high would Jackson go? Top 5?

Come on guys. Lions fans do read this thread. Let's not talk about guys who should have been taken but weren't.

[DeToxRox]

Yeah, lets no go there. Too depressing.

If they did a do-over of last years draft, how high would Jackson go? Top 5?

I'd say the top 5 of a redraft would go:

1. Ryan Clady
2. Chris Johnson
3. Ray Rice
4. Matt Ryan
5. Jake Long
6. DeSean Jackson

[Crapshoot]

This is honestly an exhibition from Jackson. He's reaching Devin Hester in 2006-2007 territory for me.

[Crapshoot]

I'd say the top 5 of a redraft would go:

1. Ryan Clady
2. Chris Johnson
3. Ray Rice
4. Matt Ryan
5. Jake Long
6. DeSean Jackson

Hmm - Matt Ryan below Rice and Johnson? Both great players, but if you believe a running game is really an offshoot of the offensive line, I'd argue you go with the franchise QB higher.

[DeToxRox]

Hmm - Matt Ryan below Rice and Johnson? Both great players, but if you believe a running game is really an offshoot of the offensive line, I'd argue you go with the franchise QB higher.

I am not sold on Matt Ryan being a franchise QB personally but he's been solid enough and at a need position. Rice is probably too high I am just still having nightmares from earlier today.

Chris Johnson right now is the best player in the NFL.

[jbergey22]

I'd say the top 5 of a redraft would go:

1. Ryan Clady
2. Chris Johnson
3. Ray Rice
4. Matt Ryan
5. Jake Long
6. DeSean Jackson

Good list. I think Id put Johnson ahead of Clady and Id sneak Jackson in ahead of Long. Id probably put Ryan ahead of Rice as well.

[MizzouRah]

Great game tonight.. quite entertaining!

I bet EF27 is going nuts!

[Eaglesfan27]

Great game tonight.. quite entertaining!

I bet EF27 is going nuts!

Yep, I'm loving this offense.

[EagleFan]

Yep, I'm loving this offense.

I'm not liking the defense.

:)

[Eaglesfan27]

I'm not liking the defense.

:)

Me neither, but with this offense it might not matter ;)

Weaver is quickly becoming one of my favorite players.

[EagleFan]

Me neither, but with this offense it might not matter ;)

Weaver is quickly becoming one of my favorite players.

I agree on Weaver, he does a little of everything and he can be a bull.

[RedKingGold]

I'd say the top 5 of a redraft would go:

1. Ryan Clady
2. Chris Johnson
3. Ray Rice
4. Matt Ryan
5. Jake Long
6. DeSean Jackson

That's 6.

[kingfc22]

no TD

[Eaglesfan27]

A very entertaining game and the Eagles end up in 1st place - a perfect night of football :)

[aran]

Any team worth their salt can pick the Giants' secondary apart. No way they win a single playoff game. I doubt they'll make it into the playoffs at all.

[Kodos]

I admit the Desean Jackson is a talented guy, but I wish he could score without being a douchebag. My favorite showboating moment of his was of course spiking the ball before reaching the endzone last season.

[BishopMVP]

I guess the Giants defense is good evidence that sometimes the defensive coordinator can make all of the difference in how good a defense is.Having 2 NFL-caliber safeties helps as well.

[Tigercat]

Surprised this isn't getting any play, but the Saints are the first 13-0 NFC team ever. Yes EVER, the Saints have a better record at this point than the '85 Chicago Bears and every other NFC team ever to take a field. But strangely enough, I haven't seen anyone in the national media mention this yet. As a Saints fan I am not offended by this, I just find it kind of weird.

[sabotai]

Having 2 NFL-caliber safeties helps as well.

Sure does. Pretty good sign of how bad you are at safety when you have to start a CB who should probably be on IR at the position.

[BishopMVP]

Surprised this isn't getting any play, but the Saints are the first 13-0 NFC team ever. Yes EVER, the Saints have a better record at this point than the '85 Chicago Bears and every other NFC team ever to take a field. But strangely enough, I haven't seen anyone in the national media mention this yet. As a Saints fan I am not offended by this, I just find it kind of weird.Having 2 13-0 teams probably reduces the coverage and pressure on both. Plus the Saints have little historical or recent success so there isn't a large base of people rooting against them like the Steelers/Colts/Pats/Cowboys/Eagles/Giants inspire.

[RainMaker]

Having 2 13-0 teams probably reduces the coverage and pressure on both. Plus the Saints have little historical or recent success so there isn't a large base of people rooting against them like the Steelers/Colts/Pats/Cowboys/Eagles/Giants inspire.
Also they aren't one of the teams in which ESPN sucks their dicks. If this was Dallas, it'd be getting 10 minutes every night on SportsCenter.

[DaddyTorgo]

Also they aren't one of the teams in which ESPN sucks their dicks. If this was Dallas, it'd be getting 10 minutes every night on SportsCenter.

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[JonInMiddleGA]

Also they aren't one of the teams in which ESPN sucks their dicks. If this was Dallas, it'd be getting 10 minutes every night on SportsCenter.

If it were Dallas enough people might actually care enough for it to be worth at least 5 minutes.

Instead, it's the Saints and other than Drew Brees & Reggie Bush I doubt 95% of viewers could name a player on the team unless they happen to play fantasy football. And if they were 12-1 instead of 13-0 and/or if the Colts weren't also 13-0 and a possible matchup of unbeatens wasn't in play then I doubt there'd be even as much coverage as there is now. You cover what people care about and I don't get any sense at all that the Saints fit that description very well.

[hoopsguy]

Also they aren't one of the teams in which ESPN sucks their dicks. If this was Dallas, it'd be getting 10 minutes every night on SportsCenter.

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The idea of a Pats fan remotely suggesting that his team does not get enough coverage is hard to fathom.

[DaddyTorgo]

The idea of a Pats fan remotely suggesting that his team does not get enough coverage is hard to fathom.

i wasn't suggesting that my team doesn't get enough coverage. i was just agreeing with rainmaker that if it was dallas it'd be over-covered

[DaddyTorgo]

If it were Dallas enough people might actually care enough for it to be worth at least 5 minutes.

Instead, it's the Saints and other than Drew Brees & Reggie Bush I doubt 95% of viewers could name a player on the team unless they happen to play fantasy football. And if they were 12-1 instead of 13-0 and/or if the Colts weren't also 13-0 and a possible matchup of unbeatens wasn't in play then I doubt there'd be even as much coverage as there is now. You cover what people care about and I don't get any sense at all that the Saints fit that description very well.

Colston?

[JonInMiddleGA]

Colston?

I'd say that any name recognition for him is from fantasy fb players, probably even less recognizable than Meacham if from nothing other than their relative profile as college players. I mean, at least SEC fans might have his name stick because they remember seeing him play.

[Qwikshot]

Shockey

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

The Chiefs had someone purchase 300 upper level tickets to get rid of the possible blackout. The person who bought them turned around and donated the tickets to a local National Guard unit.

Only one problem. All 300 went unused as none of the soldiers wanted to use the FREE tickets. Ouch.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Shockey

How many people outside New York & New Orleans do you believe realize he isn't still with the Giants?

[JonInMiddleGA]

The Chiefs had someone purchase 300 upper level tickets to get rid of the possible blackout. The person who bought them turned around and donated the tickets to a local National Guard unit.

Only one problem. All 300 went unused as none of the soldiers wanted to use the FREE tickets. Ouch.

Oof.

[Dr. Sak]

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http://enrico.blogs.com/.a/6a00d83451af4b69e20120a74d8b73970b-800wi

[JonInMiddleGA]

Thanks Sak, I've now discovered the one person on earth that has less vertical leap than I do.

[Dr. Sak]

Over/Under on how many toes Andy Reid got off the ground?

[Qwikshot]

How many people outside New York & New Orleans do you believe realize he isn't still with the Giants?

Well I'm an Eagles fan, so I must confess I knew from his stint with the G-men. But he does seem to get some face time for being a brash talking TE.

[Thomkal]

Let's go win the NFC West tonight Cardinals!

[sabotai]

http://www.barking-squirrel.com/McNabbTantrum.gif

This will never stop being funny!

[Butter]

Way to completely not show up, Bengals. I fully expect a similar beatdown vs. the Chargers next week.

[MikeVic]

I love that! Looks like the Giants player is dancing too.

[Pumpy Tudors]

I love that! Looks like the Giants player is dancing too.
Thanks for making me notice football player ass.

[Abe Sargent]

I really feel that the pregame coverage was working hard to sell this game.

[Thomkal]

Cards need to find a back that can hang on to the ball. :::sighs at Hightower:::

[Thomkal]

Dammit! Looks like its the Mr. Hyde version of this year's Cards has shown up tonight. :(

[mauchow]

how is it still the first quarter!?

[Thomkal]

how is it still the first quarter!?

Lots of penalties and 3 challenges-SF has used theirs up.

[Abe Sargent]

Geez - stink-uh-NAYDA

[Thomkal]

I just don't understand how they look so great against a better team in Minnesota last week then so awful the next against a weaker team in SF. Just drives me crazy. Sadly or perhaps not, I need to go to bed now, so will miss the remainder of the game. I hope somehow the "Dr. Jekyll" version of the Cards show up after halftime.

[MikeVic]

Thanks for making me notice football player ass.

Looks like it's sweaty too.

[Lathum]

well, just got back from Vegas. At least I made some money on the over. No way I was betting on the Giants.

This team is just terrible right now. Bill Sheridan needs to get fired, asap. I realize there have been some injuries but they are getting no pressure on the QB and I don't ever remember watching a team give up A. so many big plays and B. so many first downs on 3rd and long.

I was looking at the points against and the Giants have given up 330, almost 100 more then Dallas, and only fewer then C, St. Louis, Detroit, and Cleveland. Maybe a few others I am forgetting. The defense had way more talent then that, you score 38 points you should win.

The only hope I have is the cowboys have a tough schedule and the Giants have an easy one, but right now it doesn't even matter because they are going no where.

[Tigercat]

You do not throw a flag for holding that far away from the ball carrier, especially when the block was over a decent amount of time and it was clean for nearly the entire time. With holding being as arbitrary as it is, that was a pathetic call.

[DeToxRox]

Seven turnovers for the Cards. Sheesh.

[BishopMVP]

Also they aren't one of the teams in which ESPN sucks their dicks. If this was Dallas, it'd be getting 10 minutes every night on SportsCenter.ESPN doesn't suck their dick because there isn't a large base of people with preconceived love/hate for the Saints. Hate ESPN for the way they cover sports now, but those teams I listed (and Brett Favre) draw eyeballs and ratings.

[Karlifornia]

The 49ers simply have the Cards number. The Cards play better against just about everyone else in the league. The 49ers play worse against just about everyone else. Both teams still play the vegetables of the league (Lions and Rams), so the Cards should clinch no problem.

[Sun Tzu]

Hell of a game to be at tonight. The crowd was very into it from the very beginning. Just too bad that it wasn't more meaningful. We Niner fans are going to be replaying in our heads that Brett Favre hail mary and the Seahawks multiple phantom penalties if we miss the playoffs by 1 game. We were 5-2 at one point but lost 5 games on the road by 6 points or less. 9-7 is very possible, 8-8 is probably more likely. Either way it's an improvement over last years team, and we have two 1st round picks next year...one of which (CAR) may be a top 7 pick.

[cuervo72]

Thanks for making me notice football player ass.

Better?

http://enrico.blogs.com/.a/6a00d83451af4b69e201287651416a970c-500wi

[jbergey22]

Way to completely not show up, Bengals. I fully expect a similar beatdown vs. the Chargers next week.


I was reading through a Bengals message board on Sunday. Basically I was looking for a Dierdorf quote something to the effect that they are looking like a bunch of rams out there, and not the St Louis Rams because I thought it was funny. Anyway, it seems Bengals fans are so pessimistic and I dont understand why. They have played well this year and many would say they have overachieved. The Bengals have the best seconday in the NFL right now IMO.

I've just never read so much bashing on their own team in one forum especially a playoff team. Is this the nature of Bengals fans?

The Bengals defense kept them in the game for the most part. Take away a couple of turnovers and the game would have been there for the Bengals to take. The Bengals were the toughest defense the Vikings have seen this year.

[Bad-example]

Entertaining game last night. Loved the play when Patrick Willis punched the ball out from behind and it came rolling right up to Mark Roman like an early xmas present. Bonus!

Just a couple things go the Niners way and they are sitting at 8-5 instead of 6-7. With the development of their young core and projected stability at the OC spot for the first time in 7 years, the Niners have a decent chance to step up next year.

[Butter]

I've just never read so much bashing on their own team in one forum especially a playoff team. Is this the nature of Bengals fans?

Are you new to the NFL? Hi, we're the Bengals, we have been to the playoffs once in 18 years, and it ended in utter heartbreak. We also have been a league laughing-stock for a dozen years for one reason or another.

As fans, we expect at any moment someone will get arrested, or hurt, or the team will just go completely in the tank. If you met 10 Bengals fans today, then you have probably also met 9 pessimists. I bet at least 50% of Bengal fans would not be at all surprised for the team to lose their last 3, and the Ravens to win their last 3 to completely knock the Bengals out of the playoffs.

Disappointed, yes. Surprised? No.

[jbergey22]

Disappointed, yes. Surprised? No.


Haha.

You have nothing to worry about. They are a good team whether you believe it or not. You beat the Ravens/Steelers twice which is never an easy task.

The only problems I saw were Palmer seems scared at times and your offensive cordinator is an idiot.

[Butter]

your offensive cordinator is an idiot.

Agreed.