2009-10 College Football Bowl Season thread

[Karlifornia]

The McCoy injury is huuuuuuge. A senior and all-time leader in wins to a freshman with 26 pass attempts on the season? Huuuuuuge

[JonInMiddleGA]

There ought to be a rule against using Mount Cody in the backfield. I could run behind the hole he makes.

[RainMaker]

There ought to be a rule against using Mount Cody in the backfield. I could run behind the hole he makes.
Seeing him go through the hole looking for someone to hit was awesome. Just seemed like Texas said "fuck this".

[DaddyTorgo]

without McCoy this isn't really a game. it's a "can alabama school the freshman QB" game and it's really not as fun to watch as two close-to-equals.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Just seemed like Texas said "fuck this".

I don't blame 'em. Sometimes discretion is the better part of valor.

[bulletsponge]

this game is already over. freshman qb coming in for an injured qb, no way hes any good. hell if Mccoy was injured last week at least the freshman would get a lot of 1st team snaps in practice. right now hes just raw and getting thown to the wolves.

[Senator]

givin up isn't in the game plan.

[Matthean]

While it isn't the end of the world, if definitely does matter.

Because it happened, I can't see how Texas will move the ball for the rest of this game. They haven't moved the ball at all when Saban doesn't give them field position.

Somewhere, Oklahoma is smiling. Saying that, I would hate to see 'Bama win if McCoy didn't return.

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[bronconick]

This is karma for McCoy begging for that extra second. One way or another, the football gods weren't interested in giving Texas a shot.

[Eaglesfan27]

Looks like this could get ugly :(

[SirFozzie]

And, lo, the Burnt Orange Sea parted...

[k0ruptr]

INT, the blow out is starting.

[mauchow]

Perfect pass from the Freshman and then an interception. Oops.

[Matthean]

And yet only down 6. If you can't get a nice big lead when it's handed to you, it tends to come back and get you. 'Bama just needs to get past the nerves phase.

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Well past the nerves phase. 'Bama is getting TDs where Texas got field goals. I'm still pissed this is happening without McCoy. I don't want a tainted title.

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[DaddyTorgo]

INT, the blow out is starting.

it's a real shame too to those of us that didn't really have a horse in the game - it turns what had potential to be a real great game into a waste of time and something not enjoyable to watch

[Izulde]

Perfect pass from the Freshman and then an interception. Oops.

Yep. Well, maybe not perfect pass, but a great throw nonetheless.

[kingfc22]

without McCoy this isn't really a game. it's a "can alabama school the freshman QB" game and it's really not as fun to watch as two close-to-equals.

+1

[wade moore]

it's a real shame too to those of us that didn't really have a horse in the game - it turns what had potential to be a real great game into a waste of time and something not enjoyable to watch

yup.

[RainMaker]

I don't get this huge love affair with McCoy. Have you guys watched Texas this year? He's been a non-factor against any defense with a pulse.

[Izulde]

I don't get this huge love affair with McCoy. Have you guys watched Texas this year? He's been a non-factor against any defense with a pulse.

It's an experience issue.

[DaddyTorgo]

i turned the game off...somebody shoot me a PM or something if Colt comes back and it becomes a game (although I take it that's not happening now)

[Karlifornia]

Are you seriously trying to question the difference between having a Senior Heisman runner-up and having a freshman who has never started a game? Even for the rest of the Texas team, it has to shake them up pretty good. That's not even counting the boost Alabama's defense and playcallers get from basically knowing what's coming on 1st and 2nd downs.

[wade moore]

Are you seriously trying to question the difference between having a Senior Heisman runner-up and having a freshman who has never started a game? Even for the rest of the Texas team, it has to shake them up pretty good. That's not even counting the boost Alabama's defense and playcallers get from basically knowing what's coming on 1st and 2nd downs.

I don't get this huge love affair with RainMaker. Have you guys read FOFC this year? He's been a non-factor against any poster with a pulse.

[k0ruptr]

it's a real shame too to those of us that didn't really have a horse in the game - it turns what had potential to be a real great game into a waste of time and something not enjoyable to watch

exactly. although not a blowout yet (17-6) its getting there, and I was really hoping for a great national championship :(

[k0ruptr]

did that ball hit the ground? if not thats a TD! wow!

[Eaglesfan27]

Ouch. That is a killer.

[cthomer5000]

epic playcalling fail

[wade moore]

oof.

[k0ruptr]

dola, if its a TD then , now the blow out is on! wow

[Izulde]

Ugh. 24-6. Commence blowout music.

[cthomer5000]

I was seriously wondering "why are they doing anything here?" Kneel it, get it into the locker room with your freshman QB. This game ain't over yet, unless you do something retarted here. ... 2 plays later

[kingfc22]

Ballgame. WTF was Texas thinking?!?!

[cthomer5000]

that is 100% on the coach. Utterly insane.

[cthomer5000]

WTF was Texas thinking?!?!
+10,000

[JonInMiddleGA]

Blame that one on the OC not the QB.

[Karlifornia]

Holy shit..lol. Hmm what else is on tonight?

[k0ruptr]

Great great play by that D lineman! hes got some moves! wow. Aloha and Good night Texas!

[Eaglesfan27]

that is 100% on the coach. Utterly insane.

Agreed. Terrible coaching there.

[wade moore]

"Really, McCoy might come back, stay tuned!"

Translation:

"Dear god, our ratings are screwed."

[Eaglesfan27]

Great great play by that D lineman! hes got some moves! wow. Aloha and Good night Texas!

Yeah, loved the stiff arm into the slow spin combo.

[cthomer5000]

A perfect example of how sideline reporting NEVER has balls in this day and age. First question should have been "what in the world were you thinking there?"

[DaddyTorgo]

"Really, McCoy might come back, stay tuned!"

Translation:

"Dear god, our ratings are screwed."

lmao...seriously. i'll be interested when jon comes in with the quarter/half hour ratings for this game to see the drop off.

[RainMaker]

Are you seriously trying to question the difference between having a Senior Heisman runner-up and having a freshman who has never started a game? Even for the rest of the Texas team, it has to shake them up pretty good. That's not even counting the boost Alabama's defense and playcallers get from basically knowing what's coming on 1st and 2nd downs.
There is a difference and it hurts Texas. But they aren't winning this game with Colt McCoy anyway. Texas got in on a cupcake schedule and is being exposed.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Holy shit..lol. Hmm what else is on tonight?

Looks like Memphis @ Syracuse on ESPNU
And the Hulk Hogan debut show is being repeated on Spike tonight
And if you get the Encore movie networks both Tremors and Patton are on.

[DaddyTorgo]

There is a difference and it hurts Texas. But they aren't winning this game with Colt McCoy anyway. Texas got in on a cupcake schedule and is being exposed.

disagree

[k0ruptr]

how many coaches have won National Championships at 2 different schools? Saban is one hell of a coach!

[cthomer5000]

how many coaches have won National Championships at 2 different schools? Saban is one hell of a coach!

i believe the answer is zero

[Senator]

There is a difference and it hurts Texas. But they aren't winning this game with Colt McCoy anyway. Texas got in on a cupcake schedule and is being exposed.

disagree...... again

[wade moore]

Looks like Memphis @ Syracuse on ESPNU
And the Hulk Hogan debut show is being repeated on Spike tonight
And if you get the Encore movie networks both Tremors and Patton are on.

And that's a replay on ESPNU if you didn't realize. ;)

[henry296]

Looks like Memphis @ Syracuse on ESPNU
And the Hulk Hogan debut show is being repeated on Spike tonight
And if you get the Encore movie networks both Tremors and Patton are on.

The Syracuse-Memphis game is a replay from yesterday.

[k0ruptr]

i believe the answer is zero

I am pretty sure also, as far as I know anyway, I just wasn't sure if it had happened in the 30's or 40's or something...

[JonInMiddleGA]

And that's a replay on ESPNU if you didn't realize. ;)

My bad, didn't have any idea.

[mtolson]

What the hell did Corso just say. I got the "Bone Head" call but the rest. WTF. He's drunk as a skunk !

[wade moore]

disagree...... again

Senator - I wouldn't bother responding to him. It's clear he has no clue what he's talking about.

[JonInMiddleGA]

What the hell did Corso just say. I got the "Bone Head" call but the rest. WTF. He's drunk as a skunk !

Something about "who in the hell ...". And yeah, either he was in the middle of having a stroke on camera or he's drunker than Harry Caray.

[wade moore]

What the hell did Corso just say. I got the "Bone Head" call but the rest. WTF. He's drunk as a skunk !

Yeah, I was just chatting with ct and said something.

What was that? It honestly almost sounded like (no joking around) he was in the middle of a stroke or something.

I wondered if this was a development this year that I missed or something.

[Senator]

You guys don't tune out quite yet. I know this has HAMPERED your entertainment for the evening, and heck, we are really very sorry but gee you might be rewarded for hanging in there, and isn't this what it is all about. You.


/written tongue in cheek in case you don't know me very well

[DaddyTorgo]

jersey shore is on...LOL

[Senator]

lmao - ASSHOLE!!

[mtolson]

Something about "who in the hell ...". And yeah, either he was in the middle of having a stroke on camera or he's drunker than Harry Caray.

Yup, he's definitly drunker than drunk. He comes back with "Texas has a problem ". No shit Sherlock. He's actually more entertaining than the game at this point.

[wade moore]

So.. everyone says he's drunk.. is this a new thing with him? With UT having a down year, I haven't watched as much pregame stuff this year.. but I don't remember ever seeing this in the past?

[cthomer5000]

You guys don't tune out quite yet. I know this has HAMPERED your entertainment for the evening, and heck, we are really very sorry but gee you might be rewarded for hanging in there, and isn't this what it is all about. You.


This game's losing viewers faster than the 2009 IHOF Bowl Broadcast! !!!1

[mauchow]

i'm watching Armageddon on encore.....

sad.

[jbergey22]

This sucks!

Texas would have likely been up 10-0, 14-0 if Colts hadnt went down instead we are stuck with this mess of a championship game.

This QB for Texas looks utterly lost out there.

[Lathum]

jersey shore is on...LOL

so either way we get to watch a bitch slapping.

[BYU 14]

jersey shore is on...LOL

Oh shit, we have a situation here!

[DaddyTorgo]

so either way we get to watch a bitch slapping.

as a matter of fact, it seems like it. seems like there's a catfight coming up on jersey shore...:lol: care to guess which jersey shore cast member is involved?

[tarcone]

Queen Live at Wembley Stadium is on VH1C

[Matthean]

Corso and Holtz both picked Texas, so I figured 'Bama might be in good shape with the two ESPN loonies betting against them.

And McCoy is done for the night.
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[Cuckoo]

As a lifelong Horn hater, I of course won't feel bad for Texas at all, particularly after what OU has gone through this year. And I thought Alabama would win the game anyway.

That said, I do feel bad for Colt, just as I did for Sam. He's a good kid, quite a gamer, and to get knocked out like that really sucks. I hope he goes on to great things.

[wade moore]

I will put this out there.

If somehow this kid pulls this out they'll basically erect a statue in the center of the state of Texas for him.

[Karlifornia]

Chris Simms just ran onto the field. No, Chris, you'll only make matters worse

[RainMaker]

Senator - I wouldn't bother responding to him. It's clear he has no clue what he's talking about.
Except for the fact that what I said would happen tonight is happening. Sorry that ESPN's love affair with Colt McCoy got you hooked. He's a good QB but the 180 yards he'd offer up tonight wasn't going to beat Alabama.

[bronconick]

Chris Simms just ran onto the field. No, Chris, you'll only make matters worse

:lol:

[Noop]

These Texas receivers are not making their QBs job any easier.

[RainMaker]

As a lifelong Horn hater, I of course won't feel bad for Texas at all, particularly after what OU has gone through this year. And I thought Alabama would win the game anyway.

That said, I do feel bad for Colt, just as I did for Sam. He's a good kid, quite a gamer, and to get knocked out like that really sucks. I hope he goes on to great things.
I feel worse for McCoy as this was his big moment. Bradford's injury almost seems like the world's way of saying "you moron" for not coming out last year.

[DaddyTorgo]

Except for the fact that what I said would happen tonight is happening. Sorry that ESPN's love affair with Colt McCoy got you hooked. He's a good QB but the 180 yards he'd offer up tonight wasn't going to beat Alabama.

lol

i guess it's pretty easy to state that confidently when the guy's been knocked out of the game

[superbama]

I also feel bad for Colt. From what I see he's a good guy.

BUT if Texas had knocked out Ingram it would have been ok. I think Richardson is just as good.

Roll Tide. Forever.

[Dr. Sak]

Yeah and wasn't he clamoring that Cincinnati deserved in more than Texas?

[RainMaker]

lol

i guess it's pretty easy to state that confidently when the guy's been knocked out of the game
Or from watching him against any good defense this year.

[Karlifornia]

Ok, Texas. Time to start the greatest comeback in championship game history.

[jbergey22]

Except for the fact that what I said would happen tonight is happening. Sorry that ESPN's love affair with Colt McCoy got you hooked. He's a good QB but the 180 yards he'd offer up tonight wasn't going to beat Alabama.

Doesnt Colt have the most wins out of any QB in NCAA history? You cant honestly believe Colt wouldnt have had an impact on this game can you?

Texas could have been up 14-0 to start the game. Bama would have been in a world of hurt if Colt hadnt went down. Instead they leave 8 points off the board and their offense cant move the ball.

[RainMaker]

Doesnt Colt have the most wins out of any QB in NCAA history? You cant honestly believe Colt wouldnt have had an impact on this game can you?

Texas could have been up 14-0 to start the game. Bama would have been in a world of hurt if Colt hadnt went down. Instead they leave 8 points off the board and their offense cant move the ball.
Where are you getting this from? Colt McCoy has been crap against any good defense he has faced this season. Why do you feel he will magically turn into Peyton Manning tonight?

[jbergey22]

Where are you getting this from? Colt McCoy has been crap against any good defense he has faced this season. Why do you feel he will magically turn into Peyton Manning tonight?

Where am I getting what from?

Colt has the most career wins in NCAA history. Look it up.

Alabama left great field position for Texas two straight possessions to start the game. Colt doesnt guarentee 14 points there but I dont think 10 is reaching.

Colt is also capable of moving an offense and keeping the defense fresh. Have you noticed it seems like Alabama has been on offense most of the game?

Because I think a Heisman contender and leading NCAA career QB in wins is a quality asset on the field does not mean I have to think he is going to be Peyton Manning tonight.

Whats wrong with short passing at a 70 percent clip anyway? Time of possession is a good thing.

[cuervo72]

Yeah, I was just chatting with ct and said something.

What was that? It honestly almost sounded like (no joking around) he was in the middle of a stroke or something.

I wondered if this was a development this year that I missed or something.

Yup, he's definitly drunker than drunk. He comes back with "Texas has a problem ". No shit Sherlock. He's actually more entertaining than the game at this point.

DUDE, did you guys see Dick Clark on this year's New Year's Eve show? TOTALLY SLOSHED! EVEN MORE THAN CORSO!

[Karlifornia]

No, no...Garrett Gilbert and his 4/22 is just fine. That's what you want in a title game.

[Eaglesfan27]

Did they just say that McCoy could have come back but they didn't let him do it because of his NFL prospects? I'm guessing that is not Texas making that decision, but his dad calling that shot. Seems like that hurts his image and NFL stock. If he won't come back in for the biggest game of the year and his career to this point, I would wonder about his toughness before I draft him.

[JonInMiddleGA]

You cant honestly believe Colt wouldnt have had an impact on this game can you?

I don't believe he would have changed the outcome one bit. I've had Texas scoring 10 or less from the day the matchup became set.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Did they just say that McCoy could have come back but they didn't let him do it because of his NFL prospects? I'm guessing that is not Texas making that decision, but his dad calling that shot. Seems like that hurts his image and NFL stock. If he won't come back in for the biggest game of the year and his career to this point, I would wonder about his toughness before I draft him.

They seemed to make it pretty clear that Colt wanted back in but that everyone else agreed it wasn't worth risking his future over.

[JonInMiddleGA]

And Gilbert just produced as many TD's as I believe McCoy would have.

[jbergey22]

I don't believe he would have changed the outcome one bit. I've had Texas scoring 10 or less from the day the matchup became set.

Well I guess this Garrett situation is a blessing in disguise then because they just put up their 13th point with him:)

[Eaglesfan27]

They seemed to make it pretty clear that Colt wanted back in but that everyone else agreed it wasn't worth risking his future over.

Do you really believe that Mack Brown and the Texas staff wouldn't let him into the game when the X-Ray was negative?

[Karlifornia]

I don't believe he would have changed the outcome one bit. I've had Texas scoring 10 or less from the day the matchup became set.

Well, there goes that.

[jbergey22]

And Gilbert just produced as many TD's as I believe McCoy would have.

Sure!

[wade moore]

I don't believe he would have changed the outcome one bit. I've had Texas scoring 10 or less from the day the matchup became set.

O RLY? ;)

Game just got interesting enough that I'm not goign to sleep liek I was about to..

:grumble:.. I'll be tired tomorrow.



AND AN ONSIDE NOW?!

yikes.

[Eaglesfan27]

Wow. Texas with some life after an onside kick recovery. :)

[Karlifornia]

WOOOHOOO! Onside kick! HOOK 'EM, BABY!!!

[cthomer5000]

well well well

[Senator]

no quit, no quit, no quit

[wade moore]

Isn't Shipley supposed to be good?

He's been TERRIBLE this game.

[Eaglesfan27]

I was starting to debate about going to bed as well, but I'll just be tired tomorrow. :)

Shipley should have caught that.

[wade moore]

I was starting to debate about going to bed as well, but I'll just be tired tomorrow. :)

Shipley should have caught that.
At least it's an hour earlier for you ;).

[M GO BLUE!!!]

Looks like this turned into a game!

I just got in a few minutes ago & turned the game on. What happened to McCoy?

[JonInMiddleGA]

Sure!

What "sure"? I didn't believe McCoy could produce more than one TD against this defense. Gilbert just produced one, ergo Gilbert has done as much as I believe McCoy was going to.

[Noop]

I'm telling you... these receivers are not doing Gilbert any favors with the amount of passes they are dropping especially Malcolm Williams.

[cthomer5000]

terrible coaching: 1
brilliant coaching: 1

Genius timing and execution on the onside kick. It was early enough that Alabama was more likely thinking "they might still be in this" rather than "they might try an onside kick here."

[MrBug708]

Texas was hosed on those plays

[JonInMiddleGA]

Looks like this turned into a game!

I just got in a few minutes ago & turned the game on. What happened to McCoy?

Got hit pretty good on his shoulder like the fourth play from scrimmage, x-rays were negative but they wouldn't let him come back in.

[wade moore]

As an SEC fan, I'd prefer Bama to win.

As a football fan, I'd love to see Texas stage a comeback.

[JonInMiddleGA]

I'm telling you... these receivers are not doing Gilbert any favors with the amount of passes they are dropping especially Malcolm Williams.

+1

[cthomer5000]

ok, nothing came of it but pulling it off, and now the great punt are definitely positive momentum builders.

[jbergey22]

What "sure"? I didn't believe McCoy could produce more than one TD against this defense. Gilbert just produced one, ergo Gilbert has done as much as I believe McCoy was going to.

Im really not going to debate this. Its beyond silly for numerous reason.

[wade moore]

Does saban back away from the offensive equivalent of the Prevent at any point?

[larrymcg421]

I guess I just have no clue what constitutes pass interference these days.

[M GO BLUE!!!]

Got hit pretty good on his shoulder like the fourth play from scrimmage, x-rays were negative but they wouldn't let him come back in.

Thanks.

[Karlifornia]

A 3 and out would be good here. You know who has done a great job today? The Alabama punter.

[Senator]

Ok, no ref help, so be it. It happens all the time. Defense needs to keep giving us shots and keep fighting.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Im really not going to debate this. Its beyond silly for numerous reason.

There's no debate to have. I made a statement about my expectations for Texas & what Gilbert's production relative to those expectations has been. That's not debatable stuff, those are both facts. My expectations were what they were, Gilbert's production is what it is.

Not for one second have I thought Texas had more than a snowball's chance in hell of beating Alabama, the absence of McCoy doesn't change that one bit.

[RainMaker]

Can a sprained shoulder get worse? Just doesn't seem like an injury that has the ability to end someone's career or even hurt draft status. I understand knee sprains and such which could cause a person to move awkwardly and cause more damage.

Wouldn't it make sense to let McCoy back in and just take him out when they got up by 30?

[cthomer5000]

Can a sprained shoulder get worse? Just doesn't seem like an injury that has the ability to end someone's career or even hurt draft status. I understand knee sprains and such which could cause a person to move awkwardly and cause more damage.

Wouldn't it make sense to let McCoy back in and just take him out when they got up by 30?

sprain = slight tear

yes, i would imagine using torn ligaments and muscles can damage them further

[jbergey22]

There's no debate to have. I made a statement about my expectations for Texas & what Gilbert's production relative to those expectations has been. That's not debatable stuff, those are both facts. My expectations were what they were, Gilbert's production is what it is.

Not for one second have I thought Texas had more than a snowball's chance in hell of beating Alabama, the absence of McCoy doesn't change that one bit.

Its more than possible your expectations are flawed seeing that a QB that is 7-28 has kept this game within 11 points and a couple of stupid decisions from being closer than that.

[wade moore]

sprain = slight tear

yes, i would imagine using torn ligaments and muscles can damage them further


Again, why do we keep engaging this guy? He's clueless.

[Noop]

If you're a Texas Football fan you need to be asking for Bobby Kennedy's resignation come tomorrow morning. While his segment blocks well on running plays(especially the speed sweep) they are receivers and need to catch the ball.

[RainMaker]

Its more than possible your expectations are flawed seeing that a QB that is 7-28 has kept this game within 11 points and a couple of stupid decisions from being closer than that.
McCoy wouldn't have been doing much better. Especially considering that Texas has dropped half a dozen balls tonight.

[Karlifornia]

McCoy wouldn't have been doing much better. Especially considering that Texas has dropped half a dozen balls tonight.

Absolutely no way to tell that. Playcalling would have been totally different.

[jbergey22]

McCoy wouldn't have been doing much better. Especially considering that Texas has dropped half a dozen balls tonight.

McCoy is better at reading a defense. He is normally not trying to force the ball into covered WRs.

Its easy to see Gilbert has a great arm but he has no idea where to throw the ball.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Absolutely no way to tell that. Playcalling would have been totally different.

Yep, it could have gotten McCoy eaten alive as opposed to the conservative approach they've been forced to adopt with Gilbert at QB.

[Senator]

this game is not over

[RainMaker]

Crazy idea here, but maybe Alabama just has a good defense?

[Noop]

McCoy would have given them a little bit more athleticism at QB but passing wise he wouldn't have made much of a difference.

[jbergey22]

Crazy idea here, but maybe Alabama just has a good defense?

Nice job! You nailed that one.

[Noop]

Crazy idea here, but maybe Alabama just has a good defense?

Compounded by the fact that Texas hasn't played anyone worth a damn.

[mtolson]

DUDE, did you guys see Dick Clark on this year's New Year's Eve show? TOTALLY SLOSHED! EVEN MORE THAN CORSO!

Dick Clark had a bad stroke or something a couple of years ago. He has a legit excuse to appear loopy. Corso is just plain ol' tore up ! Hell, Desmond was trying his hardest to not laugh !

[Noop]

Corso had a stroke this summer.

[cthomer5000]

FWIW, i also subscribe to the belief that the SEC is, by a wide margin, the most difficult conference in college football.

[RainMaker]

McCoy is better at reading a defense. He is normally not trying to force the ball into covered WRs.

Its easy to see Gilbert has a great arm but he has no idea where to throw the ball.
Gilbert can throw a deep ball though which McCoy can't. I'd rather take McCoy in this game but Nebraska already exposed his game and showed how to beat them. Gilbert at least offers something they were not prepared for at all.

[wade moore]

Dick Clark had a bad stroke or something a couple of years ago. He has a legit excuse to appear loopy. Corso is just plain ol' tore up ! Hell, Desmond was trying his hardest to not laugh !

Corso had a stroke this summer.

Nice mtolson.

Thanks Noop,,

Lee Corso of ESPN GameDay recovering after minor stroke - ESPN (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=4213090)

From personal experience, he really seemed to be someone talking with the after effects of a stroke.

[jbergey22]

Gilbert can throw a deep ball though which McCoy can't. I'd rather take McCoy in this game but Nebraska already exposed his game and showed how to beat them. Gilbert at least offers something they were not prepared for at all.

Well I think Alabama is the better team that isnt playing their best game tonight. However with the 2 early give aways. I think Alabama is in a battle IF Colt hadnt gotten hurt. Colt may not have the greatest skills but hes not stupid and knows enough to take the points when they are there and to not make a stupid pass at the end of the first half. And I know he wouldnt be 8-29.

[Noop]

Note to Greg Davis keep throwing it to Shipley then use him as a decoy and pray Williams catches the ball.

[JonInMiddleGA]

and to not make a stupid pass at the end of the first half.

That doesn't belong on Gilbert, that belongs on the guy(s) who called the play.

[RainMaker]

The Gilbert kid has actually been good in the 2nd half combined with Alabama playing uber-conservative. Texas literally has like 6 dropped passes tonight which have really hurt.

[mtolson]

Corso had a stroke this summer.

Wow, now I feel bad. I Didn't know that. During the pregame he didn't sound anywhere near as bad as he did during halftime. Maybe in his excitement at halftime it caused him to appear a little off. He's always been a little excitable but at half time he just seemed way over the top, even for him.

Thanks Noop

[DaddyTorgo]

McCoy wouldn't have been doing much better. Especially considering that Texas has dropped half a dozen balls tonight.
:lol:

there's clearly just no reasoning with you if you actually believe that

[Noop]

This Gilbert kid is impressive.

[Ronnie Dobbs2]

Here we go!

[Senator]

TAKE THAT MOTHER F'ERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[cthomer5000]

1. They are kinda sorta pulling this off.

2. Imagine if they hadn't just gifted 'Bama that TD before halftime.

[Izulde]

Hello, we've got game!

[Noop]

We have a game now folks.

[Karlifornia]

FUCK. YES. Let's goooooo Texas!!!!!!!!!

[Galaril]

wow! Saban will get strung up in Mobile if he blows this one.

[Eaglesfan27]

Wow. Never saw this coming.

[kingfc22]

We got a game!!!

[wade moore]

Wow, now I feel bad. I Didn't know that. During the pregame he didn't sound anywhere near as bad as he did during halftime. Maybe in his excitement at halftime it caused him to appear a little off. He's always been a little excitable but at half time he just seemed way over the top, even for him.

Thanks Noop

From my experience, these issues get worse as the person gets tired. I wouldn't be surprised if it's as simple as that.

[LloydLungs]

Oh my... move over Matt Barkley, Musberger's got a new freshman QB love...

[Senator]

Thanks guys... reading through this thread, ya'll never stopped believing!!

[wade moore]

I wonder if Jerry Jones has started taking bids for the sculpting commission yet?

[Neuqua]

Hah, Senator has the reverse-MizzouBballFan effect on me in this thread. Go Horns.

[Eaglesfan27]

wow! Saban will get strung up in Mobile if he blows this one.

Now, that would be fun to see. ;)

[Matthean]

Well, it's a game regardless. Will be interesting to see if 'Bama wakes up, or not.
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[RainMaker]

wow! Saban will get strung up in Mobile if he blows this one.
He always came across as a smug asshole to me. Would be kind of funny to see how their fans handle a loss like this.

[mtolson]

'Bama gonna give this one away ! I can't say I am very impressed with the QB any more so then the freshmen at this point.

[Noop]

I think Bama started celebrating at halftime and they forgot they still had thirty minutes of football left. If I am Saban I am concerned whether or not my team can kick it up a notch especially since they have been playing conservative the entire second half. If they are going to win this championship they are going to need one of those clock draining drives in order to ice the game.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Oh my... move over Matt Barkley, Musberger's got a new freshman QB love...

Yeah but Brent's notoriously fickle, depending upon whomever he's watching at the time. He's like a drunk 20 year old at a nude beach.

[Lathum]

Loved seeing them throw it for the 2 point conversion. Great way to give the kid confidence.

[Senator]

If I am Bama is it Ingram time.

[Noop]

Alabama will lose this game if they try to pass the ball.

[tarcone]

wow

[JonInMiddleGA]

I think Bama started celebrating at halftime and they forgot they still had thirty minutes of football left. If I am Saban I am concerned whether or not my team can kick it up a notch especially since they have been playing conservative the entire second half. If they are going to win this championship they are going to need one of those clock draining drives in order to ice the game.

I don't know that the players have been responsible so much as the coaching staff. Kirby Smart will go from genius to WTF in a hurry in they let this get away and Saban will suddenly look extremely human. From kickoff the coaching decisions for Alabama have seemed to come from a staff that was scared shitless of the stage they were on. That's bizarro but that's what it's seemed like to me.

[Izulde]

Ingram showed right there why he won the Heisman.

[JonInMiddleGA]

If I am Bama is it Ingram time.

Depends whether (and how much) he can go I think.

[wade moore]

If you're a Texas fan..

This HAS to encourage you about the next 3 years, right?

[MizzouRah]

Shipley would be a nice 3rd round pick for the Rams.

[Noop]

I don't know that the players have been responsible so much as the coaching staff. Kirby Smart will go from genius to WTF in a hurry in they let this get away and Saban will suddenly look extremely human. From kickoff the coaching decisions for Alabama have seemed to come from a staff that was scared shitless of the stage they were on. That's bizarro but that's what it's seemed like to me.

I wasn't the blaming the players but I was wondering if they would be able to kick it up a notch after being so laxed. Some of the decisions this game by Saban is very unlike him...

[Senator]

All you can ask for in this world is a chance - we might have one here.

[mtolson]

Damn, McElroy is going to kill 'Bama. Texas can't be covering that well. He is holding on to the ball for way to long!

[jbergey22]

Impressive fight Texas.

Alabama is leaving it on the doorstep for them.

[tarcone]

I guess Bama shouldnt have gone to the waterboy offense in the 2nd half.

[Noop]

Damn, McElroy is going to kill 'Bama. Texas can't be covering that well. He is holding on to the ball for way to long!

Actually Texas is covering very well and has an excellent game-plan put in place by a Saban disciple, Will Muschamp. The combo zone blitz and the cover 3 free are things of beauty and besides Alabama, Texas runs it the best I've ever seen.

[Karlifornia]

The production staff reaching down into the bottom of the pile and pulling out the Garrett Gilbert picture.

[k0ruptr]

BALL GAME
WOOOO!

[Lathum]

oof. Game over

[JonInMiddleGA]

Wow

[Izulde]

Was fun while it lasted.

[Noop]

Beautiful blitz, jeez Saban is a genius with the zone blitz.

[cthomer5000]

O-Line had been really pushing their luck. Gotta hold em to 3.

[Karlifornia]

Oh, darn. Thanks to Texas (and Alabama) for making the second half worth watching.

[Karlifornia]

Gotta hold em to 3.

Yup.

[Eaglesfan27]

Oh, darn. Thanks to Texas (and Alabama) for making the second half worth watching.

It's not over yet. Texas might just pull off this goal line stand.

[cthomer5000]

Ok, they called a timeout after 2nd down... but why not after 1st?

A. They score the TD, you need lots os time to score twice
B. They don't score a TD, and get a FG... you would still rather be in control of the clock while driving for the game winning TD.

[k0ruptr]

If Bama doesn't get in on 3rd and 2 feet , and Texas somehow marches and scores a td to win by 1 SEC and Bama fans are gonna vomit uncontrollably .

[Karlifornia]

It's not over yet. Texas might just pull off this goal line stand.

Yeah....I really hope it happens.

[Senator]

football is fun

[k0ruptr]

Whew, TD BAMA wins!

[superbama]

looks like champions again. Good game texas.

Roll Tide. Forever.

[k0ruptr]

Good game though! and the Heisman winner actually had a good bowl game! (this rarely happens) 120 yards or so, 5 + ypc and 2 tds.

[Lathum]

The over/ under for this game was 46. I bet people who took the under were counting their money when McCoy went down. I had the over.

[Izulde]

Good game though! and the Heisman winner actually had a good bowl game! (this rarely happens) 120 yards or so, 5 + ypc and 2 tds.

And that second TD was all him fighting through it, too.

[Izulde]

Great second half of football. Sorry, Senator and other Texas fans. Congrats, superbama and other Tide fans.

[Lathum]

LMAO

Brent going out on a limb predicting 'Bama will be the preseason #1 next year.

[JonInMiddleGA]

LOL, way to go out on a limb there Brent. Gee, y'think Bama might be the pre-season #1 next year? Gosh, who woulda thunk it?

[Karlifornia]

Ok, Gilbert. Now it's time to pull off the SUPER GREATEST COMEBACK OF ALL TIME

[tarcone]

And with that, whats your preseason top 10?

[JonInMiddleGA]

And with that, whats your preseason top 10?

I think we gotta see the final list of who is coming out early before we can get there too comfortably.

For example, looks like Georgia Tech (who ain't one of them but just for an example) will lose Demaryus Thomas to the NFL with an announcement due tomorrow afternoon.

[jbergey22]

And with that, whats your preseason top 10?

Probably many of the normal teams. Iowa has a good chance of starting next year in the top 10.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Damn, Alabama players are physical ;)

[Lathum]

LOL, Saban gets drilled with the gatorade jug

[mtolson]

Saban did not look amused at all. That was too funny !

[tarcone]

Yah Iowa is losing offensive lineman. As Bulaga their LT announced. :(

[Young Drachma]

Saban did not look amused at all. That was too funny !

Hehe...he didn't look pleased at all.

[jbergey22]

Yah Iowa is losing offensive lineman. As Bulaga their LT announced. :(

They have pretty much their entire defense back except 2 linebackers though correct?

[Lathum]

Yah Iowa is losing offensive lineman. As Bulaga their LT announced. :(

lol, who really gives a shit about that right now.

[Bigsmooth]

Hadn't thought of it before, but really like the Ingram/Emmitt Smith comparison. Dude is a shifty little brickhouse.

[Young Drachma]

McElroy isn't a Rhodes Scholar yet. I mean, get a grip guys. Applying for it, isn't winning it.

[jbergey22]

Hadn't thought of it before, but really like the Ingram/Emmitt Smith comparison. Dude is a shifty little brickhouse.

It is a good comparison come to think of it.

[Lathum]

People who bailed after the first half will look at the final and not think they missed anything.

[Izulde]

Hehe...he didn't look pleased at all.

That right there is a true sign of a dick. Your team just won the national title! Even if you don't like a Gatorade shower, at least be happy that you won and be happy for your players.

[tarcone]

They have pretty much their entire defense back except 2 linebackers though correct?

Yeah. Waiting on CB Spivey to announce his intentions.

[RendeR]

Congrats Bama!


Glad someone finally smacked the smug out of Texas.

[jbergey22]

Congrats Bama backers! Nice season.

And also to the Texas fans. It sucks to have to play a championship game without your leader but how they battled was impressive.

[tarcone]

Congrats to Alabama and fans.

Great season.

[Young Drachma]

Good experience for the freshman QB, even if it was for naught.

[mtolson]

Hadn't thought of it before, but really like the Ingram/Emmitt Smith comparison. Dude is a shifty little brickhouse.

I was thinking the same thing. He is built in the same image, just a little bigger.

[Lathum]

Jesus, I hate that they are interviewing McCoy.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Okay, that explanation by McCoy makes it clear there's no way he could/should have been back in there.

[Young Drachma]

Jesus, I hate that they are interviewing McCoy.

Tim Tebow wasn't here or else, he'd have been first.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Classy kid in a tough circumstance, Texas has every right to be proud of him.

[Young Drachma]

Do they have to bring up Mark Ingram's dad every time they interview him? I mean, seriously?

[jbergey22]

Good experience for the freshman QB, even if it was for naught.

Yeah couldnt imagine a tougher situation for him. Championship game against the best defense in the nation. From now on everything will appear easy.

He came around late after looking horrible for 3 quarters. He deserves a lot of credit for sticking with it.

[Galaril]

So basically Mack lost it for Bama with that dumb ass call at the end of the first half. Without that TD Bama would have been losing 21-17 and Gilbert would not of been throwing in his own end zone so no TD at the end there either.

[Izulde]

Okay, that explanation by McCoy makes it clear there's no way he could/should have been back in there.

I thought he looked doped up on pain medication myself.

[Lathum]

So basically Mack lost it for Bama with that dumb ass call at the end of the first half. Without that TD Bama would have been losing 21-17 and Gilbert would not of been throwing in his own end zone so no TD at the end there either.

coulda, shoulda, woulda.

Butterfly effect, who knows what would have happened.

[Galaril]

Probably many of the normal teams. Iowa has a good chance of starting next year in the top 10. Actually I would not be surprised if Boise State was in the Top 5 to open the season at least Shit they only had 4 seniors not just in the starting lineup but on the entire roster that would be leaving and they were just scrubs anyways.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Marcel Darius looks like a baby Shaq.

[Galaril]

coulda, shoulda, woulda.

Butterfly effect, who knows what would have happened.

No just saying that really it came down to coaching at least once McCoy got hurt. I never thought Mack was a great coach mostly lucky to be a coach at UT where can get the cream of nations crop of HS athletes along with USC AND U of Florida.

[Senator]

Great season for Bama. Always liked them.

Not really sure why Render thought we were smug. I thought this crop of seniors for UT were some of the classiest we have ever had come through the school.

I have always believed if you fight hard and lose, there is no shame. I am really proud of this team. I liked it even more than the Vince Young led team that won it all.

[Senator]

No just saying that really it came down to coaching at least once McCoy got hurt. I never thought Mack was a great coach mostly lucky to be a coach at UT where can get the cream of nations crop of HS athletes along with USC AND U of Florida.

Mack does not call the plays on either side of the ball.

[Matthean]

coulda, shoulda, woulda.

Butterfly effect, who knows what would have happened.

Yep, unless we get a complete redo from when McCoy got hurt it's all guessing games. 'Bama sure as hell wouldn't have taken the 3rd quarter off like they did if McCoy was in.
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[Vegas Vic]

Good experience for the freshman QB, even if it was for naught.

Kind of a rhetorical question here, but suppose Texas had a first round quarterback and first round tight end out, and a first round offensive tackle, starting wide receiver and starting running back at 50%, and they lost to Alabama 16-13. What would the response be?

[Logan]

I don't get this huge love affair with RainMaker. Have you guys read FOFC this year? He's been a non-factor against any poster with a pulse.

Brilliant job wade. You'd think people would realize how stupid they sound when all they do is repeat the same bullshit line as support for whatever ridiculous argument they're trying to make.

[mauchow]

Probably many of the normal teams. Iowa has a good chance of starting next year in the top 10.

With lots of their top players coming back, the Badgers certainly won't start in the top 10 next year but could definitely finish the top ten.

They were a horrible second half away from beating Iowa this year and getting close to that top ten this year but obviously, almost doesn't count.

Wisconsin handled miami pretty easily in their bowl game, despite what the score was. I'm excited for next season and am somewhat sad the season is over.

My top five to finish the season:

Bama
Boise
Florida
Texas
TCU

It would have been VERY interesting to see what would have happened if TCU or Boise would have faced anybody but each other...they most definitely would have been amped up to play a BCS conference team but...

[Karlifornia]

Kind of a rhetorical question here, but suppose Texas had a first round quarterback and first round tight end out, and a first round offensive tackle, starting wide receiver and starting running back at 50%, and they lost to Alabama 16-13. What would the response be?

I'm not really sure what OU has to do with any of this :confused:

[Vegas Vic]

I'm not really sure what OU has to do with any of this :confused:

It was a rhetorical question, loaded with a hypothetical scenario that was substantially worse than the adversity that Texas faced tonight. The rhetorical answer is "Nobody is interested in hearing excuses."

[RainMaker]

This isn't McCoy or Bradford specific, but I hate it when an excuse is made when a QB gets knocked out of the game. McCoy and Bradford didn't slip on some ice, they got hit and thus knocked out of the game by the opposing team. That is a plus for the defense and they do deserve credit for that. If you don't want your QB getting hurt, don't let him take hits. BYU and Alabama knocked their QBs out of the game and deserve credit for it.

[Atocep]

This isn't McCoy or Bradford specific, but I hate it when an excuse is made when a QB gets knocked out of the game. McCoy and Bradford didn't slip on some ice, they got hit and thus knocked out of the game by the opposing team. That is a plus for the defense and they do deserve credit for that. If you don't want your QB getting hurt, don't let him take hits. BYU and Texas knocked their QBs out of the game and deserve credit for it.

I agree with this. Football isn't played in a vacuum. Injuries suck, but they happen and using them as an excuse just doesn't fly.

[Senator]

Haven't heard anyone making an "excuse".

[Vegas Vic]

Haven't heard anyone making an "excuse".

Senator, I'm not trying to rub it in to you, but go on any Longhorn fan site and the boards are flooded with "the best team lost", "if not for Colt's injury", etc. posts. All I'm saying is that it's kind of ironic from the very same people who were saying "no excuses" to the OU fans after the 16-13 loss without Bradford and Gresham.

[Senator]

Yeah, I guess you can find shit birds without too much effort for any college, these days. That is the flipside of what coolness the internet is.

Understand what you are saying. I don't have much use for them.

[Calis]

Senator, I'm not trying to rub it in to you, but go on any Longhorn fan site and the boards are flooded with "the best team lost", "if not for Colt's injury", etc. posts. All I'm saying is that it's kind of ironic from the very same people who were saying "no excuses" to the OU fans after the 16-13 loss without Bradford and Gresham.

Of course the flip side of humor to this is the amount of Sooner fans I've seen saying "no excuses" about McCoy's injury who were saying the same things about Bradford being out earlier.

Fans have never been known for consistency.

[cuervo72]

Could have been an interesting scenario w/o a "championship" game though, especially say if 'Bama had 1 loss. Some pollsters might opt to vote for Texas in that case.