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Ben E Lou
12-29-2009, 02:48 AM
Some help....

My Windows 7 experience (should be the same for Vista)

1. Uninstalled 6.2 - tried running the converter tool, but I don't have any SP leagues currently. No need.

2. Installed 6.3 - curiously, I didn't have to mess with eLicense in either step.

3. Double-clicked the desktop icon - nothing. Right-clicked and ran the compatibility checker/fixer. Worked. May or may not be necessary. Run as administrator probably works fine too.

4. Moved Leagues, Universe, Export, Import folders from Program Files\Solecismic Software\Front Office Football 2007 to its counterpart in C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming. This folder is hidden by default. In XP, it's C:\Documents and Settings\<username>\something... see Ben's posts.

5. Edited MP batch files thusly (these are in individual league files in the Program Files directory, not AppData - i.e., Program Files\Solecismic Software\Front Office Football\WOOF\FOF-WOOF.bat) -

FROM:

cd ..
copy WOOF\frfoot.* universe
copy WOOF\*.bmp pictures
start FrFoot2007.exe

TO:

cd ..
copy WOOF\frfoot.* C:\Users\John\AppData\Roaming\soleci~1\fronto~1\universe
copy WOOF\*.bmp pictures
start FrFoot2007.exe


Everything works like a champ. Kludgy, but there's some steps that worked for me.</username></username>

Julio Riddols
12-29-2009, 03:06 AM
Question: Do we only need to worry about the saved game converter, etc IF we are running Vista?

Solecismic
12-29-2009, 03:13 AM
Question: Do we only need to worry about the saved game converter, etc IF we are running Vista?

You should run it regardless prior to uninstalling the old version.

Once you have uninstalled, it won't work any more and you'll have to move old saved games by hand.

What it's doing is converting the file structure to a Vista-friendly format. That framework was in place back in the days of Windows '98. I'm not sure if the game will still work in Windows '95.

Julio Riddols
12-29-2009, 04:17 AM
Im probably the only one this will cause problems with (the new file saving system) but one of the machines I use is no longer going to be able to run the game because the hard drive I have FOF installed on is not the drive I have Windows on.. This is because the drive I have windows on is only a 12GB drive, used only for windows XP. Is there any way to change where files are saved, or am I going to have to go exclusively to my laptop?

sidthelid
12-29-2009, 06:00 AM
I have installed the patch and game will not load now, it says "Front Office Football 2007 was not installed properly" any ideas?

RedKingGold
12-29-2009, 06:04 AM
I have just listened to the POD cast again and i think it's pretty clear nothing is coming in the forseeable future which is a big shame. Jim says he would like to release a maintenace upgrade at the start of the season , well it's week 11 now so i would suggest it's not a delay it's just not coming (hopefully i am very wrong).

What made me laugh was though when Jim said "I like to stay in touch once in a while and i try to do that". Just when was the last post from Jim?!

He also says he is working on something but now is not the time to mention what it is, that says to me it's some time off that's if it has something to do with FOF or TCY's. Ok the interview was a little time ago so maybe there will be some news this decade LOL.

Lastly he says i am not working in another field entirely, that says to me he is working in another area but not totally. That's kind of worrying.

I think we are stuck with what we have for a while yet, hopefully someone else brings out an up to date game as FOF is tired.

Believe me i am not worshipping him, i am as fed up as the next man. I am also of the opinion this game is dying and has more holes in it than Green Bays OL.

If he was going to release something then surely it was best for his business to do so at the start of the season when more people want to play a football game, not at Superbowl time. Also why would he update FOF 2007 to a web based game if most of his customers are SP Players, that makes no sense either, maybe a completely new game. Why would he tell us if FOF is not to be continued, that would make any potential new buyer stop and think before buying it if the game is not going to be supported etc moving forward. Seriously when was the last time he posted, updated his web site etc. Wolverine have just posted that they will not release there game before April 2010 as well.

What are you so concerned about?

Clearly, you're not missing anything.

Hammer
12-29-2009, 06:11 AM
I have installed the patch and game will not load now, it says "Front Office Football 2007 was not installed properly" any ideas?

Vista?

I am also unable to get it to work at this point. But I am still trying. I am getting an elicense message saying an adminstrator must run the game first. The usual "run as administrator" option, isn't available.

Anyone got round it yet?

Ben E Lou
12-29-2009, 06:24 AM
Did you uninstall the old version first?

Disturbed
12-29-2009, 06:25 AM
I went into the actual FOF folder and ran as admin from there, not my normal shortcut.

It worked.

sidthelid
12-29-2009, 06:42 AM
Did you uninstall the old version first?

No i have version 6.2 but i can't remember when i installed it as i brought a new licence, i have the game without a disc, so do i have to uninstall and then re download the game?

Thanks for any help

Hammer
12-29-2009, 06:56 AM
I went into the actual FOF folder and ran as admin from there, not my normal shortcut.

It worked.


Yes, when I try that I get an error message. msvcr71.dll not available.

I will uninstall again and try again from scratch. I was in a bit of a rush :0)

beeznik
12-29-2009, 07:14 AM
One thing I don't find in the FAQ that *seems* obvious, but I want to make sure: do we now need to drop the MP files in the "leagues" folder in the new location?

Where is the new location. I installed and tried switching my leagues in multiplayer, and it's not working.

Ben E Lou
12-29-2009, 07:17 AM
Where is the new location. I installed and tried switching my leagues in multiplayer, and it's not working.On my XP box, it's C:\Documents and Settings\Ben\Application Data\Solecismic Software\Front Office Football 2007\

MIJB#19
12-29-2009, 07:20 AM
If you purchased the game after December 28, 2008, you most likely have the updated version. To check to see if you have the update, press the desk icon near the upper right corner of the game screen. The version number is in the bottom right of the information screen.Isn't that supposed to read December 28, 2009?

beeznik
12-29-2009, 07:27 AM
On my XP box, it's C:\Documents and Settings\Ben\Application Data\Solecismic Software\Front Office Football 2007\

Thanks, I figured it out after screwing around with it. Does this change the batch file? As the leagues and universe files are moved into a new location, yet the picture file stays in the old location.

Ben E Lou
12-29-2009, 07:28 AM
Heh. Hadn't thought about that, but it has to.

Hammer
12-29-2009, 07:38 AM
In case anyone else has my problem, I found this on the solecismic website under FAQ.


This can apply to earlier versions of the operating system as well. The licensing software requires a file called msvcr71.dll. This is considered a vital part of the operating system. You will often get a message that this file is missing if this is the problem, but sometimes you don't see any message. You can download this file from the above link and place it in the folder with the installation file. Or you can place it in your windows folder (often C:/Windows/System32).

mbarry55
12-29-2009, 08:34 AM
Can't seem to get the new team nicknames to stick. I renamed all the teams to their proper NFL names, and still see St.Louis Stags, etc.

Is there a point where the new names start taking affect? I forget how it worked, been awhile since I started a new career.

mmarra82
12-29-2009, 08:54 AM
WTF...get a message successful download, go to open the game and nothing. Now what?

Ok, got the game to work, now where are all my MP and SP leagues? They are located in the League folder?

Hammer
12-29-2009, 09:02 AM
WTF...get a message successful download, go to open the game and nothing. Now what?


I have been trying all day Mike. Still can't get it to work. Followed all the intstructions at support, nothing. Reinstalled 6.2, and it works fine. 6.3 gives me the error message I mentioned earlier. Fix will not resolve it.

Tried this.



In rare cases, the above changes do not solve the problem. Click on the Start Menu, then the Computer or My Computer entry on the right side of the window. Click on the System Properties menu near the top of the screen. Click on the Advanced system settings entry on the left side of the screen (this might require you to confirm permissions). Click on the Advanced tab, then the button called Settings under Performance. Cilck on the Data Execution Prevention tab. Make sure the setting for Turn on DEP for essential Windows programs and services only option is selected.


Everything was as it should of been. I have been here for hours now trying :(

PLD3009
12-29-2009, 09:04 AM
if in MP leagues, will there be any affect to those still running 6.2 with others including the commish running 6.3 and vice versa?

sounds like some issues with the upgrade and would rather leave alone until everything is fixed/proven method is found

Hammer
12-29-2009, 09:04 AM
How is it I go about downloading a complete new, up to date installation of the game without having to buy a new one? I have my code.

The demo works, so that gives me hope.

mmarra82
12-29-2009, 09:05 AM
Acting really screwy here...I have folders popping up on my desktop now, files have been moved. This has created a total mess to my FOF Files that I have spent so much time on...thanks a lot!

No offense Jim, but the directions sucked, uninstalled the previous version, downloaded 6.3, then went to do the convert saved games and a message pops up that you needed to do this before uninstalling the previous version.

Fuck this game...years, weeks, days and hours down the tube in 5 minutes.

Disturbed
12-29-2009, 09:13 AM
I have no clue whats going on. I'm giving up for now and will look into it tomorrow or something.

The only thing I hate about patches is being in multiple leagues. Some are switching right now while others want to wait.

schwantz
12-29-2009, 09:14 AM
Question for people in MP leagues as this is the first update I've gone through while playing MP leagues. What if the two leagues you are in update at different points? Will this cause problems?? Or can I just update now and it won't matter until the commish updates?

Thanks.

Ben E Lou
12-29-2009, 09:17 AM
No offense Jim, but the directions sucked, uninstalled the previous version, downloaded 6.3, then went to do the convert saved games and a message pops up that you needed to do this before uninstalling the previous version.

The saved game converter should only be run once - immediately before you uninstall an earier version of Front Office Football 2007. It will not work otherwise. If it's too late to run the utility and you want access to your old saved games, then you can still move all the saved game files yourself into the new saved game folders, which can be found under Users/your_profile_name/AppData after you've run the new version once. That's all the utility does. .

Hammer
12-29-2009, 09:17 AM
Aye, great job. Can't wait to get the teething problems sorted.

sidthelid
12-29-2009, 09:19 AM
i am having a nightmare my whole game is screwed , i got it to work and now i can not see MP files that are downloaded, they don't work it seems unless the commish has updated as well, but it could be that the install has screwed things up

Subby
12-29-2009, 09:30 AM
It's an IQ test AND a patch!

Hammer
12-29-2009, 09:32 AM
I failed big time - although I'm still hoping its the computers fault. I hope it is.

Icy
12-29-2009, 09:35 AM
Fresh install in Windows 7 64 bit works perfect.

Hammer
12-29-2009, 09:35 AM
I can reinstall 6.2 with no problems whatsoever, must be something in the patch. Keeps going on about this msvcr71 file.

Hammer
12-29-2009, 09:36 AM
Fresh install in Windows 7 64 bit works perfect.

Where can I get the fresh up to date install? Do you have a link please?

Yoda
12-29-2009, 09:37 AM
I've been helping Disturbed, for some reason it is putting the files under his roaming profile.

He is up and working now. For those having trouble, look under your appdata/roaming directory.

Ben E Lou
12-29-2009, 09:38 AM
Upgrading worked just fine in XP.

1. Ran utility.
2. Uninstalled 6.2.
3. Installed 6.3.

I'm up to 2023 in a fast-moving (for now) career and haven't seen any big issues.

beeznik
12-29-2009, 09:39 AM
It's worked fine for me in Vista. I moved all of my universe and leagues folders to the new spot, and it's just like utilizing the old version without a batch to switch between leagues. The pictures files are in the old folder, though.

Flasch186
12-29-2009, 09:40 AM
so you run the saved games utility FIRST before installing the patch?

Disturbed
12-29-2009, 09:40 AM
When I installed it on Vista it went to the ROAMING folder under AppData

Just something you guys can check for if its not working for you..

C:\Users\Tim\AppData\Roaming\Solecismic Software

thats where it went for me

jdavidbakr
12-29-2009, 09:42 AM
Upgrading worked just fine in XP.

1. Ran utility.
2. Uninstalled 6.2.
3. Installed 6.3.

I'm up to 2023 in a fast-moving (for now) career and haven't seen any big issues.

Apparently I did this one wrong, here's what I did:

1. Ran utility
2. Installed 6.3
3. Game did not launch
4. Uninstalled 6.2
5. Installed 6.3
6. Game launched but no saved games wele found

According to the website you are supposed to move the files into Users/your-profile-name/AppData but I'm on XP and assume that's a Vista thing? Anyone know where the files need to be moved to in XP?

beeznik
12-29-2009, 09:43 AM
so you run the saved games utility FIRST before installing the patch?

YEs.

bighouserulez
12-29-2009, 09:43 AM
I have an hour and a half efforts of trying to install it.

I had to remove Fof and reinstall it.

I have the game loading up but it kicked all my saved games. That really sucks because i have to start from scratch on every single league i have. The batch files do not work at all.

I do not run vista i am on XP.

Ben E Lou
12-29-2009, 09:44 AM
Jon, I'm on XP. Mine are in C:\Documents and Settings\Ben\Application Data\Solecismic Software

PLD3009
12-29-2009, 09:51 AM
Apparently I did this one wrong, here's what I did:

1. Ran utility
2. Installed 6.3
3. Game did not launch
4. Uninstalled 6.2
5. Installed 6.3
6. Game launched but no saved games wele found

According to the website you are supposed to move the files into Users/your-profile-name/AppData but I'm on XP and assume that's a Vista thing? Anyone know where the files need to be moved to in XP?


Just installed successfully on XP,

Ran the converter

Uninstalled 6.2

Installed 6.3

The files are moved to Users/your-profile-name/AppData


One thing I had though, I ran the converter, the 'transfer complete' button never became black text, always stayed greyed out.

I left it for 10 minutes, checked on Task Manager, it hadn't used any process time so just closed the converter.

Checked my MP leagues, all seem fine.

Now should I tempt fate and convert my Vista machine??? :confused:

Icy
12-29-2009, 10:04 AM
Where can I get the fresh up to date install? Do you have a link please?

http://www.solecismic.com/support/index.php

Click on "Download the installation package"

Firefly
12-29-2009, 10:14 AM
So, to clarify, it's the same procedure for XP and Vista? I was going to run the Converter but it was labeled "Vista Converter", so I changed my mind, but then I've read above it's a good idea anyway. So I guess I will.

:popcorn:

Hammer
12-29-2009, 10:15 AM
http://www.solecismic.com/support/index.php

Click on "Download the installation package"


Thats just the patch, done that route 462,123 times. Thanks anyhow.

Ben E Lou
12-29-2009, 10:16 AM
So, to clarify, it's the same procedure for XP and Vista? I was going to run the Converter but it was labeled "Vista Converter", so I changed my mind, but then I've read above it's a good idea anyway. So I guess I will.

:popcorn:

Yes, you need to run it for XP. I think a better translation would be "Vista-Ready Converter"

Ben E Lou
12-29-2009, 10:17 AM
Thats just the patch, done that route 462,123 times. Thanks anyhow.No. Jim's patches are full installations. That's the full install file.

MartinD
12-29-2009, 10:18 AM
I have the game loading up but it kicked all my saved games. That really sucks because i have to start from scratch on every single league i have. The batch files do not work at all.

The new version of FOF2007 is expecting your saved game files to be in a different location (to better fit in with how Vista works, as far as I understand things) - the export, import, leaguehtml, leagues and universe folders have been moved.

You need to move your saved game files into C:\Documents and Settings\xxx\Application Data\Solecismic Software\Front Office Football 2007\leagues\ (where xxx is the name you're logged in as/the name of your user profile).

Your batch files will need to be altered where appropriate to look for files in the appropriate location.

Yoda
12-29-2009, 10:25 AM
For those that are having trouble finding their saved games, this is how I helped Disturbed.

Open up 6.3
Create a new league
sim and save a gameplan (name it like YodaRulez)
seach for the gameplan
get the location of that file (right click- properties)
that is where your files need to be moved to.

Yoda
12-29-2009, 10:28 AM
You need to move your saved game files into C:\Documents and Settings\xxx\Application Data\Solecismic Software\Front Office Football 2007\leagues\ (where xxx is the name you're logged in as/the name of your user profile).

Your batch files will need to be altered where appropriate to look for files in the appropriate location.

That should be the link for most people, but not everyone. As disturbed posted his path earlier in this thread.

jdavidbakr
12-29-2009, 10:45 AM
Jon, I'm on XP. Mine are in C:\Documents and Settings\Ben\Application Data\Solecismic Software

Wow, thanks Ben, that was weird, the Application Data folder is hidden on my system. I had to type it in directly to access it. I hate windows...

Hoosierbuckeye
12-29-2009, 10:47 AM
XP user, followed directions, locked and loaded. A first for me I think...I'm on the side whereby the patch took the first time.

BTW: Thank you Mr. Gindin. Game had gotten stale, but with this patch, it should prove interesting and ....FUN! Again. Thanks...

Ben E Lou
12-29-2009, 10:47 AM
Ah, Jon. I have Explorer set to view all hidden folders. It was hidden on mine, too.

croco
12-29-2009, 10:48 AM
For those that are having trouble finding their saved games, this is how I helped Disturbed.

Open up 6.3
Create a new league
sim and save a gameplan (name it like YodaRulez)
seach for the gameplan
get the location of that file (right click- properties)
that is where your files need to be moved to.

That helped a lot actually. I think the problem some might have (at least I did) is that this folder is typically hidden by default.

Jughead Spock
12-29-2009, 10:48 AM
On my XP box, it's C:\Documents and Settings\Ben\Application Data\Solecismic Software\Front Office Football 2007\



AGGGGH, I don't have a 'Ben' folder! I HATE THIS THING!!!

Flasch186
12-29-2009, 10:50 AM
:)

EVEN8184
12-29-2009, 11:01 AM
I keep getting this after trying to put in the 6.3 version. Any help?

"In order to finish initializing, this application must first be run by a user with administrator privileges. Please contact your system administrator for help. 0-3"

Firefly
12-29-2009, 11:07 AM
I keep getting this after trying to put in the 6.3 version. Any help?

"In order to finish initializing, this application must first be run by a user with administrator privileges. Please contact your system administrator for help. 0-3"

Log in as admin. Actually, I don't have Vista, but I assume a) that's what you're running, b) that's the proper way to do it

Guys, please specify what you're running when posting a problem.

cubboyroy1826
12-29-2009, 11:07 AM
I got the install to work just fine but when i went in to the resource patcher I now get an error. No biggee just wondering if anyone else had done this.

Firefly
12-29-2009, 11:08 AM
AGGGGH, I don't have a 'Ben' folder! I HATE THIS THING!!!

I'd tell you how to create it, but I don't want to cause more confusion :D

EVEN8184
12-29-2009, 11:11 AM
Log in as admin. Actually, I don't have Vista, but I assume a) that's what you're running, b) that's the proper way to do it

Guys, please specify what you're running when posting a problem.

I already am the admin. And yes, I'm running this in vista. I've tried unistalling, reinstalling, still won't work.

Yoda
12-29-2009, 11:11 AM
I got the install to work just fine but when i went in to the resource patcher I now get an error. No biggee just wondering if anyone else had done this.

As Greg stated in the other thread and combined with what Jim said in another thread- FoF used to store some information in the registry. It is no longer there. The Stelmack suite pulled that information from the registery.

It is going to take an update to get it to work.

Yoda
12-29-2009, 11:12 AM
I already am the admin. And yes, I'm running this in vista. I've tried unistalling, reinstalling, still won't work.

Even when you are on the admin account, I've had a couple of instances when I've still had to right click, run as admin on the program in question.

EVEN8184
12-29-2009, 11:13 AM
Even when you are on the admin account, I've had a couple of instances when I've still had to right click, run as admin on the program in question.

For FOF, there is no "Run as Admin" option, at least for me.

Yoda
12-29-2009, 11:16 AM
For FOF, there is no "Run as Admin" option, at least for me.

I am on Vista Ultimate 64 bit on my main machine. When I right click on FoF Run as Administrator is the 3rd option listed.

On my Vista Home Premium Laptop it is the same.

That is logged in as Administrator.

EVEN8184
12-29-2009, 11:17 AM
I am on Vista Ultimate 64 bit on my main machine. When I right click on FoF Run as Administrator is the 3rd option listed.

On my Vista Home Premium Laptop it is the same.

That is logged in as Administrator.


Yes, it is that way with many of my other applications, but not with this 6.3 FOF.

EDIT: And I just went back to the 6.2 version and that also doesn't have a "Run as Admin" button, but it does work.

Jughead Spock
12-29-2009, 11:25 AM
I already am the admin. And yes, I'm running this in vista. I've tried unistalling, reinstalling, still won't work.

Even logged in as an admin, you'll probably have to do this -

Navigate to the Front Office Football folder in Program Files.

Right-click on 'FrFoot2007.exe' and 'Run as Administrator'

That work?

EDIT: just noticed everyone else jumped in before me. Make sure you're actually in the program files folder. If you try it on the desktop icon or from the start menu, you won't get the option for some reason.

Yoda
12-29-2009, 11:29 AM
Even logged in as an admin, you'll probably have to do this -

Navigate to the Front Office Football folder in Program Files.

Right-click on 'FrFoot2007.exe' and 'Run as Administrator'

That work?

EDIT: just noticed everyone else jumped in before me. Make sure you're actually in the program files folder. If you try it on the desktop icon or from the start menu, you won't get the option for some reason.

I donno.... it's funny, I get that option from the desktop icon.

And yes, I get it for 6.3 as well.

Ben E Lou
12-29-2009, 11:30 AM
I think I'm going to split this thread into two....one to discuss the patch/changes/etc., and another for "I can't figure out how to get it to work."

Jughead Spock
12-29-2009, 11:30 AM
That is weird, I thought it was because it was a shortcut, but I get the option on others. But not on FOF's here (Windows 7 Ent. 64-bit). I did on the .exe itself, though.

EVEN8184
12-29-2009, 11:36 AM
Ok, now I'm getting this:

"The feature you are trying to use is on a network resource that is unavailable. Click OK to try again, or enter an alternate path to a folder containing the installation package 'FrontOfficeFootball2007Setup.msi' in the box below.

Big T
12-29-2009, 11:43 AM
OK boys, I am currently on version 6.1a, my computor skills are less then average. I would like to get 6.3 update. Can anyone confirm or give me a quick list of what I need to do.

I am assuming as follows:

* Down-load 6.3 converter first then
* Down-load 6.3 update itself.

Am I correct?

Sorry if I sound too Newbie.

Jughead Spock
12-29-2009, 11:45 AM
My Windows 7 experience (should be the same for Vista)

1. Uninstalled 6.2 - tried running the converter tool, but I don't have any SP leagues currently. No need.

2. Installed 6.3 - curiously, I didn't have to mess with eLicense in either step.

3. Double-clicked the desktop icon - nothing. Right-clicked and ran the compatibility checker/fixer. Worked. May or may not be necessary. Run as administrator probably works fine too.

4. Moved Leagues, Universe, Export, Import folders from Program Files\Solecismic Software\Front Office Football 2007 to its counterpart in C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming. This folder is hidden by default. In XP, it's C:\Documents and Settings\<username>\something... see Ben's posts.

5. Edited MP batch files thusly (these are in individual league files in the Program Files directory, not AppData - i.e., Program Files\Solecismic Software\Front Office Football\WOOF\FOF-WOOF.bat) -

FROM:

cd ..
copy WOOF\frfoot.* universe
copy WOOF\*.bmp pictures
start FrFoot2007.exe

TO:

cd ..
copy WOOF\frfoot.* C:\Users\John\AppData\Roaming\soleci~1\fronto~1\universe
copy WOOF\*.bmp pictures
start FrFoot2007.exe


Everything works like a champ. Kludgy, but there's some steps that worked for me.

Ben E Lou
12-29-2009, 11:47 AM
My Windows 7 experience (should be the same for Vista)

1. Uninstalled 6.2 - tried running the converter tool, but I don't have any SP leagues currently. No need.

2. Installed 6.3 - curiously, I didn't have to mess with eLicense in either step.

3. Double-clicked the desktop icon - nothing. Right-clicked and ran the compatibility checker/fixer. Worked. May or may not be necessary. Run as administrator probably works fine too.

4. Moved Leagues, Universe, Export, Import folders from Program Files\Solecismic Software\Front Office Football 2007 to its counterpart in C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming. This folder is hidden by default. In XP, it's C:\Documents and Settings\<username>\something... see Ben's posts.

5. Edited MP batch files thusly (these are in individual league files in the Program Files directory, not AppData - i.e., Program Files\Solecismic Software\Front Office Football\WOOF\FOF-WOOF.bat) -

FROM:

cd ..
copy WOOF\frfoot.* universe
copy WOOF\*.bmp pictures
start FrFoot2007.exe

TO:

cd ..
copy WOOF\frfoot.* C:\Users\John\AppData\Roaming\soleci~1\fronto~1\universe
copy WOOF\*.bmp pictures
start FrFoot2007.exe


Everything works like a champ. Kludgy, but there's some steps that worked for me.

copying htis to the first post. Thanks, Jughead.

</username></username>

EVEN8184
12-29-2009, 11:53 AM
Ah, got it. Thanks guys!

Firefly
12-29-2009, 12:10 PM
Note: even if you don't have SP saved seasons, the Converter will copy your MP leagues files (except the folders with the fcy, fni and bmps). So you can run it anyway.

Guys like Serrano, isaccoubaldi, etc., might want to remember the paths may be a bit different if you're not using Windows in English. In my OS it's Datos de Aplicación, not Application Data (even though both folders exist).

Jughead Spock
12-29-2009, 12:16 PM
I ran it, but it said 'Pre-Version 6.3 Not Found'. Dunno why*, was definitely before I uninstalled. But like I said, didn't have any SP's going, so wasn't a huge issue. Guess it could've saved some steps above, but didn't want to work on my machine.

* - maybe because it's a 64-bit machine? On those, the install folder is \Program Files (x86)\Solecismic Software\Front Office Football 2007. Just a hunch, wonder if it's looking for \Program Files\Solecismic...

Firefly
12-29-2009, 12:46 PM
I don't know. I had installed in a different folder from the default folder and it still worked.

Groo
12-29-2009, 01:03 PM
I have it installed on both a Vista and XP machine. Had no problems upgrading on either machine following the 1. Run utility, 2. Uninstall FOF, 3. Install 6.3.

Working great... now for some fun with a new SP league!

nickelback
12-29-2009, 01:38 PM
Okay, totally screwed up this morning. I downloaded 6.3 and assumed it worked like all the other patches. Didn't run the converter because I didn't think you needed to unless you had Vista (I run XP). Now I'm getting the message "Front Office Football 2007 was not properly installed. Any help? Where can I re-download 6.2?

Groo
12-29-2009, 02:12 PM
Okay, totally screwed up this morning. I downloaded 6.3 and assumed it worked like all the other patches. Didn't run the converter because I didn't think you needed to unless you had Vista (I run XP). Now I'm getting the message "Front Office Football 2007 was not properly installed. Any help? Where can I re-download 6.2?

Did you uninstall 6.2? It sounds like you didn't uninstall first. The converter is specifically for game files and should not affect your installation, only what you find AFTER the install. If you have leagues going and/or are in MP leagues, you should check to see if you still have game files on your computer. If you do, run the converter and see if that works for you. If it does, then you should be able to uninstall and install the new patch just fine.

claystone
12-29-2009, 02:16 PM
I just purchase a new game with the new update and called it a day.

Joker
12-29-2009, 02:29 PM
I just purchase a new game with the new update and called it a day.

Yep, Lets start a club.
I flunked the solecismic IQ test.
I bought my way out of Hell.

ShaneTheMaster
12-29-2009, 02:44 PM
Trying a CLEAN install on Windows 7 64 bit.. and I keep getting "The contents of this file cannot be unpacked. The executable you are trying to run may be corrupted." error.. (when trying to run the executable that is downloaded from the site)

I tried redownloading... tried changing compatiablility mode.. tried running as administrator... still wont work.. Any ideas?

Chubby
12-29-2009, 03:34 PM
When I try to unistall 6.2, FOF doesn't show up in my list of programs to unnstall... running vista

Subby
12-29-2009, 04:00 PM
I just purchase a new game with the new update and called it a day.
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/JRamptastic/brilliant.jpg (http://photobucket.com/images/brilliant%21)

ShaneTheMaster
12-29-2009, 04:08 PM
Trying a CLEAN install on Windows 7 64 bit.. and I keep getting "The contents of this file cannot be unpacked. The executable you are trying to run may be corrupted." error.. (when trying to run the executable that is downloaded from the site)

I tried redownloading... tried changing compatiablility mode.. tried running as administrator... still wont work.. Any ideas?

UPDATE: I tried running the .exe from the previous version of FOF and it WORKS... is something wrong with the executable now???

walter09
12-29-2009, 04:11 PM
New to the forum and FOF, but read everything I could and
am looking forward to seroius non-arcade game that you
can't beat to death. Had a quick question...I am ready to purchase but was waiting for version 6.3 to avoid the upgrade issues, if I purchase now (12/28/9) from the
Solecismic web site, will I be downloading/receiving the 6.3 version as a my new installation?
Apologize for this...a 2 more questions....
When adding in the 30 year FOF Draft files complete and the (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=12667)
New Historical Draft and Roster Files 1960 to 2005 (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=55962), are they simply dropped into the main directory (No sub dir)?
Would the game generate it's own generic draft classes without these?
Thanx for any help, Walt

MizzouRah
12-29-2009, 04:13 PM
For those getting this error: msvcr71.dll missing

Go here: http://www.solecismic.com/faq/index.php

Basically, you'll download that file and place in your windows\system32 folder.

NawlinsFan
12-29-2009, 04:18 PM
Any advice for those of us running 64 bit Windows 7?


Tried running the converter and it didn't like it.... encountered a FOFtoVista is not a valid win32 application error.

gstelmack
12-29-2009, 04:21 PM
Go here: http://www.solecismic.com/faq/index.php

Basically, you'll download that file and place in your windows\system32 folder.

Ugh. Safer to put it in the application's folder. Cluttering windows\system32 is rarely a good idea.

msvcr71.dll is NOT a system DLL. It's a Visual Studio runtime DLL (C runtime stuff like sprintf). It shipped with older OSes that had things built against Visual Studio 2003 (like .NET 1.1), but does not come with Windows 7. My understanding is that elicense needs it, and most elicense apps need folks to hunt it down in Windows 7. OOTP full install has it included now, but I had to hunt it down for both FOF and FBCB.

Big T
12-29-2009, 04:45 PM
I did the following steps.

* Ran Converter
* Deleted current FOF

When downloading and running I get a message that FOF.exe is not a valid Win32 application?

Solecismic
12-29-2009, 05:05 PM
From everything I can tell, Microsoft is using Windows 7 to force software developers to stop supporting XP. It took hours just to create an installation file that worked on XP that was developed on Vista. I don't have 7 in-house.

I think I can get Windows 7 people running, I just have to figure out what form to do this in.

I've never been a big Microsoft basher before, but these bootstrapping issues are converting me. Very shady on their part, providing software tools that aren't backward compatible. Intentionally. All they did is change a version number in one instance. They claim they will "fix" this in Visual Studio 10, which I believe is coming out this year. Sigh.

As for the msvcr71.dll, yes, it should be where you're running the installation if you need it. Microsoft isn't consistent about what they say you should do with it. I suppose I should just add it to the package.

NawlinsFan
12-29-2009, 05:09 PM
Thanks Jim. I do have the game running in Win 7 but I installed in in the directory I used for 6.2 and it doesn't recognize my uni files. Do we HAVE to use the default directory? I didn't think so but may be wrong.

Solecismic
12-29-2009, 05:40 PM
Thanks Jim. I do have the game running in Win 7 but I installed in in the directory I used for 6.2 and it doesn't recognize my uni files. Do we HAVE to use the default directory? I didn't think so but may be wrong.

No, you don't have to use the default directory.

The universe (and leagues/leaguehtml/export/import) folders need to have write permissions.

6.2 and earlier placed those folders underneath the installation. It can be anywhere you install the program - Program Files is only the default. However, you can not write to those folders without administrative privileges. Microsoft strongly recommends other solutions.

6.3 places those folders in your profile, under AppData/(Roaming, often)/Solecismic Software/Front Office Football 2007/. That's a place Microsoft considers safer - there's some sort of a "wall" between profiles and running anything that can act as a certain type of a virus. However, there is no choice where to put that folder. Microsoft advises developers to use a certain command to get the base for it. Only the program files go where you install the game.

I wrote an application (FOFtoVista) to help with the transition. Run this before uninstalling 6.2 (because otherwise the application won't know where to look - it doesn't assume Program Files) and it will set up the new folders under AppData.

What's confusing to many is that when you reinstall, the old universe files remain. Only the game will never look for them because it's looking under AppData.

What's doubly confusing is that not only are we conditioned to look in Program Files for everything, but AppData is apparently hidden. So if you don't get the transition right, you often need a little help. That's what this item is for.

ShaneTheMaster
12-29-2009, 05:41 PM
Jim, I cant even run the installer for 6.3 on Windows 7, the installer for 6.2 runs fine. It says the files can not be extracted and that the file is corrupt?

Is there any reason the 6.3 installer will not run on Windows 7, but the 6.2 installer will? EDIT: I am also running 64 bit

Yoda
12-29-2009, 05:46 PM
What's doubly confusing is that not only are we conditioned to look in Program Files for everything, but AppData is apparently hidden. So if you don't get the transition right, you often need a little help. That's what this item is for.

What I've been telling people today is open an explorer window, go to c:\ , click on Tools > Folder Options > View and click on Show Hidden Items and Folders

Which through inheritance will apply to all the files/folders on the root drive.

Landshark44
12-29-2009, 05:48 PM
i downloaded and installed with no troubles. thanks jim, much appreciated and i look forward to playing.....

i usually just copy and paste universe files over each other, to switch leagues. can someone post an easy way to do that now? it doesn;t work, the way i used to do it.....

Solecismic
12-29-2009, 05:50 PM
I'm afraid of the answer to that question, Shane. I think it's solely an attempt to force developers to stop developing multi-platform applications.

6.3 was developed on Vista using Visual Studio 9. 6.2 was developed on XP using Visual Studio 8. The installer is a hybrid of both - the bootstrapper is from 6.2 and the executable was created with the same software the 6.2 executable was created with. It works for both Vista and XP.

What's worrisome is that one works and one doesn't on 7. Which means Microsoft is checking to make sure developers don't use that particular work-around, which I've seen discussed on forums recently. People are angry, and for good reason.

I will get something together for Windows 7. Not sure how right now, and it might not be tonight.

ShaneTheMaster
12-29-2009, 05:59 PM
I'm afraid of the answer to that question, Shane. I think it's solely an attempt to force developers to stop developing multi-platform applications.

6.3 was developed on Vista using Visual Studio 9. 6.2 was developed on XP using Visual Studio 8. The installer is a hybrid of both - the bootstrapper is from 6.2 and the executable was created with the same software the 6.2 executable was created with. It works for both Vista and XP.

What's worrisome is that one works and one doesn't on 7. Which means Microsoft is checking to make sure developers don't use that particular work-around, which I've seen discussed on forums recently. People are angry, and for good reason.

I will get something together for Windows 7. Not sure how right now, and it might not be tonight.

....but there are others who have successfully ran the install file on Windows 7... I am wondering if the fact I am using 64 bit is the issue?

Groo
12-29-2009, 06:17 PM
I did the following steps.

* Ran Converter
* Deleted current FOF

When downloading and running I get a message that FOF.exe is not a valid Win32 application?

There is a difference between uninstalling and deleting. You need to uninstall, not delete. Just wanted to verify this.

ShaneTheMaster
12-29-2009, 06:23 PM
Jim, I think the file is really corrupted. I tried downloading and running the file on another computer (running Vista 32 bit), and I get the same message.

Can someone try re-downloading the install file and try to run the install file? (just see if it runs - you dont need to follow through with the install)

ShaneTheMaster
12-29-2009, 06:30 PM
Ok.. just tried to redownload it, and now it works....

Chubby
12-29-2009, 06:53 PM
When I try to unistall 6.2, FOF doesn't show up in my list of programs to unnstall... running vista 64

anyone have any idea why fof won't show up in my list of programs to uninstall? workaround?

markprior22
12-29-2009, 06:53 PM
Wonder if someone can help me...running Vista 64 bit. Just started a career a few weeks ago. Now, I try to run the converter utility and it doesn't find my career. Other than using a custom player file and a logo mod, I left everything else at default. Not sure why this utility can't find my files.


I'm also not sure what all files need to be moved in order to do this manually.

(one other thing of note...when I looked for the files, I had to click on a "compatibility files" button at the top of the windows screen in order to get the files to show up.. Maybe that has something to do with it?)

Sure appreciate any help

claystone
12-29-2009, 08:05 PM
Need help.

I set this up on my office computer just fine, but when i bought a new game for my home computer i get this message from a Elicense Control dialog box:

"In order to finish initializing this application must first be run by a user with administrator privileges. Please contact your system admin for help 0-3."

Does anyone know what this means and what i need to do? I'm running on Vista. This happens when i try to run the game. It's been install fine on my system and i recieved my elicense #.

gstelmack
12-29-2009, 08:34 PM
right-click the exe and select "Run as Administrator" for the first time only.

chinaski
12-30-2009, 12:43 AM
Wonder if someone can help me...running Vista 64 bit. Just started a career a few weeks ago. Now, I try to run the converter utility and it doesn't find my career. Other than using a custom player file and a logo mod, I left everything else at default. Not sure why this utility can't find my files.

Ditto... "Pre-Version 6.3 Not Found" :confused:

3ric
12-30-2009, 01:06 AM
You can move the files manually from old "leagues" folder to the new "leagues" folder without the utility

Big T
12-30-2009, 01:32 AM
There is a difference between uninstalling and deleting. You need to uninstall, not delete. Just wanted to verify this.

Yeah sorry, I did mean uninstall.. as it turns out I simply downloaded that dl32thingamagig and it all worked out..

This thread saved a ton of heart ache, thanks guys...:)

Solecismic
12-30-2009, 01:59 AM
For those of you experiencing the "can't find pre-6.3" issue with the utility, had any of you not uninstalled before trying the utility?

chinaski
12-30-2009, 04:13 AM
For those of you experiencing the "can't find pre-6.3" issue with the utility, had any of you not uninstalled before trying the utility?

I have not uninstalled 6.2 before trying the utility. Everything i've read said to run the util beforehand. I'll just move them manually I guess.

markprior22
12-30-2009, 07:27 AM
I tried to run the converter before uninstalling (it was the first step I took in the process). Tried to manually move my files but couldn't get that to work either. Finally threw in the towel and started a new career with 6.3

chinaski
12-30-2009, 08:19 AM
heres the batch file I came up with. Since the universe folder lives under AppData, I didnt see any reason to keep my batches under program files.

this is with the batch file sitting in C:\Users\Hank Chinaski\AppData\Roaming\Solecismic Software\Front Office Football 2007\


copy universe\FOWL\frfoot.* "C:\Users\Hank Chinaski\AppData\Roaming\Solecismic Software\Front Office Football 2007\universe"
copy universe\FOWL\*.bmp "C:\Program Files (x86)\Solecismic Software\Front Office Football 2007\Pictures"
cd "C:\Program Files (x86)\Solecismic Software\Front Office Football 2007"
start frfoot2007.exe

SlyBelle1
12-30-2009, 08:25 AM
anyone have any idea why fof won't show up in my list of programs to uninstall? workaround?

If you originally ran the install as an Admin, sometimes it only allows you to uninstall a game after you login as that admin account.

JohnDoe8865
12-30-2009, 08:59 AM
I did the following steps.

* Ran Converter
* Deleted current FOF

When downloading and running I get a message that FOF.exe is not a valid Win32 application?

I'm getting the same error message for both the 6.3 converter and the new FOF 6.3.exe file. 'Not a valid Win32 application'.

Anyone know what could be the issue?

I'm on Vista Home Premium.

Bako
12-30-2009, 10:45 AM
I have gone through all the steps

1. Utility
2. Uninstall 6.2
3. Install 6.3 (Message says it was installed correctly)

I try to open the game by going to the multi player open icon, but when I go to the list to find my team it is gone. There are only three teams listed and none are mine.

Any help would be appreciated.

Firefly
12-30-2009, 11:12 AM
Bako, some files you have to move manually, in particular the folders where you have your league-specific files. Then you have to adjust your batch files. It sounds as though you didn't use batch files, so you'll have to provide more details as to how you used to load your leagues.

Chubby
12-30-2009, 11:17 AM
If you originally ran the install as an Admin, sometimes it only allows you to uninstall a game after you login as that admin account.

It won't show up under any account, I believe the account I installed it as was the one that became corrupted and I had to delete...

AZSpeechCoach
12-30-2009, 11:30 AM
I am finding that the download is only about 60-80 KB. I know that can't be right. When I launch it, it tells me that it is not a win32 application. I really want to resume playing after a long FOF break.

edit: I already ran the converter file, and uninstalled 6.2. I've tried downloading the installation package 2-3 times with the same results.

Firefly
12-30-2009, 12:09 PM
Have you tried with a different browser?

Bako
12-30-2009, 12:13 PM
Bako, some files you have to move manually, in particular the folders where you have your league-specific files. Then you have to adjust your batch files. It sounds as though you didn't use batch files, so you'll have to provide more details as to how you used to load your leagues.

I am a caveman, so excuse my stupidity when it comes to technology.

I am in two leagues. DFL and FOWL. When I wanted to open my DFL league, I would move my DFL universe file to this file: C:\Program Files\Solecismic Software\Front Office Football 2007.

I don't even know what a batch file is? :confused:

gstelmack
12-30-2009, 12:29 PM
I am a caveman, so excuse my stupidity when it comes to technology.

I am in two leagues. DFL and FOWL. When I wanted to open my DFL league, I would move my DFL universe file to this file: C:\Program Files\Solecismic Software\Front Office Football 2007.

I don't even know what a batch file is? :confused:

All the data files have moved to the Application Data area under your user profile. For Vista / Win7, this is under Users/{UserName}, for others it's under "Documents and Settings". See above or the other threads for more specifics.

Firefly
12-30-2009, 12:30 PM
Right, you can keep on doing the same thing, but you have to move your DFL universe to a different folder. If you use XP it's

C:\Documents and Settings\xxxx\Application Data\Solecismic Software\Front Office Football 2007\universe

where xxxx is your user name.

Search the thread above for the Vista folder, if that's what you use.

edit: lol stelmack beat me to it

gstelmack
12-30-2009, 12:32 PM
And that folder is hidden, so you need to tell the OS to show hidden files/folders.

Bako
12-30-2009, 12:39 PM
I am on Vista. How do I get the hidden files to show up? I am assuming OS means Operating System, but where can I find that?

PilotMan
12-30-2009, 12:48 PM
Alright, here's a stupid question. I have the update up and running, and I moved my MP league files over, and it all works great. But, running windows 7, when I go to use my batch swap files, I get denied and have all sorts of problems.

When I turn off UAC, it all works fine. What do I need to do to run my batch files with the UAC on? I have tried the whole Run as Admin thing, and for some reason it doesn't work either.

I just upgraded to 7, and had the UAC shut off for Vista, so do I need to have UAC shut off on 7 too?

Firefly
12-30-2009, 01:00 PM
I don't know Bako, but it's been mentioned before in the thread. In XP it's under tools -> folder options in any explorer window.

Bako
12-30-2009, 01:30 PM
For those that are having trouble finding their saved games, this is how I helped Disturbed.

Open up 6.3
Create a new league
sim and save a gameplan (name it like YodaRulez)
seach for the gameplan
get the location of that file (right click- properties)
that is where your files need to be moved to.


Did this and found my files.

The files were hidden. What do I need to do to make them not hidden?

Also when I have the files, what is the next step?

ShaneTheMaster
12-30-2009, 01:36 PM
I am finding that the download is only about 60-80 KB. I know that can't be right. When I launch it, it tells me that it is not a win32 application. I really want to resume playing after a long FOF break.

edit: I already ran the converter file, and uninstalled 6.2. I've tried downloading the installation package 2-3 times with the same results.

It should be around 40MB... This might be similar to the problem I had with it saying the file is corrupt.. Try clearing out your temp files in your browser and redownload.

RedKingGold
12-30-2009, 01:40 PM
Had no problems with Vista:

#1. Cut a hole in the box (aka run the save-game converter)
#2. Put your junk in that box (aka uninstall FOF2K7 6.2)
#3. Put the lid on that box (aka install FOF2K7 6.3)

Still haven't attempted to fix my batch files, but I imagine that shouldn't be too difficult.

Bako
12-30-2009, 01:46 PM
Had no problems with Vista:

#1. Cut a hole in the box (aka run the save-game converter)
#2. Put your junk in that box (aka uninstall FOF2K7 6.2)
#3. Put the lid on that box (aka install FOF2K7 6.3)

Still haven't attempted to fix my batch files, but I imagine that shouldn't be too difficult.


When you do fix your files, can you let me know how you did it?:D

RedKingGold
12-30-2009, 01:49 PM
When you do fix your files, can you let me know how you did it?:D

Done.

Did you set up batch files for previous versions of FOF?

Bako
12-30-2009, 01:51 PM
I had a universe file for the two leagues I am in, if that is what you mean.

victorbubba
12-30-2009, 02:53 PM
hi

i downloaded the required parts
ran the file converter uninstalled the game and installed the patch

the game has installed but it cannot recognise mysaved game

i cannot find it anywhere

i looked in roaming and the new game to get up and running is there

but i cannot find my single player game anywhere

the solecismic site said it was save game compatible

any help would be much appreciated

btw i am using vista

Chubby
12-30-2009, 06:28 PM
I have no idea if I fixed it correctly but I fixed it...

Installed overtop the other version,it didn't upgrade to 6.3 but allowed me to uninstall, uninstalled, reinstalled, voila!

MizzouRah
12-30-2009, 06:37 PM
Ugh. Safer to put it in the application's folder. Cluttering windows\system32 is rarely a good idea.

msvcr71.dll is NOT a system DLL. It's a Visual Studio runtime DLL (C runtime stuff like sprintf). It shipped with older OSes that had things built against Visual Studio 2003 (like .NET 1.1), but does not come with Windows 7. My understanding is that elicense needs it, and most elicense apps need folks to hunt it down in Windows 7. OOTP full install has it included now, but I had to hunt it down for both FOF and FBCB.

I just followed the faq.. I didn't know it would run by having the file in the game folder, thanks.

ekauffman
12-30-2009, 08:40 PM
what if I have 6.1??

Big T
12-30-2009, 10:19 PM
what if I have 6.1??

I upgraded from 6.1 to 6.3 and followed the same procedure. The only issue I had was that when I tried to download 6.3 I got a error message stating that " 32WIN blah, blah was not installed or something" I simply downloaded the msvcr72.dll thingy and it worked.

Hopefully my technical wizardry doesn't intimidate you on this response.;)

ekauffman
12-30-2009, 10:24 PM
Mine worked great 6.1- 6.3....playing the game right now! I had another problem...been searching the threads....when you convert a csv to a game file...why can't you see it in the window when you go to load it? I've had this problem before and got the answer on the boards but I can't find it!!!

tarcone
12-30-2009, 10:27 PM
What do i do if I am in multiple MP leagues but didnt use batch files. I seem to only have one MP league now.

Yoda
12-30-2009, 11:01 PM
You have to manually copy the rest of the files over.

tarcone
12-30-2009, 11:08 PM
I got rid of them all when the directions said to uninstall

tarcone
12-30-2009, 11:08 PM
And no i didnt back them up. :(

MizzouRah
12-30-2009, 11:13 PM
New to the forum and FOF, but read everything I could and
am looking forward to seroius non-arcade game that you
can't beat to death. Had a quick question...I am ready to purchase but was waiting for version 6.3 to avoid the upgrade issues, if I purchase now (12/28/9) from the
Solecismic web site, will I be downloading/receiving the 6.3 version as a my new installation?
Apologize for this...a 2 more questions....
When adding in the 30 year FOF Draft files complete and the (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=12667)
New Historical Draft and Roster Files 1960 to 2005 (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=55962), are they simply dropped into the main directory (No sub dir)?
Would the game generate it's own generic draft classes without these?
Thanx for any help, Walt

1. Yes, I believe so - you can check the verison number by running the game and then clicking on the Solecismic icon on the top far right. Make sure it says version 6.3.

2. You can keep them where ever you want to - I have a folder called FOF2007 on my desktop and then these files in folders under this folder. The game will ask you for an alternate roster file when you first start if you so choose to use one of the historical ones.

For the draft files, same thing, at the end of the season, it will ask if you have a draft file.

If you do NOT use them, yes the game would generate fictional classes each year.

AZSpeechCoach
12-30-2009, 11:17 PM
It should be around 40MB... This might be similar to the problem I had with it saying the file is corrupt.. Try clearing out your temp files in your browser and redownload.

That worked. Thanks.

Bako
12-31-2009, 12:25 AM
It was a long frustrating day, but I was able to get it working.

Thanks to Firefly, RedKing Gold, and especially Yoda for the help.

M GO BLUE!!!
12-31-2009, 01:25 AM
With the difficulty I see seasoned veterans having, I think I'm going to wait for a minute.

Can't hardly wait though... Thanks Jim!

PilotMan
12-31-2009, 11:26 AM
And no i didnt back them up. :(

I didn't back mine up either, and when I uninstalled 6.2 it didn't touch my league file, gameplans, utilities or any of it. I just had to manually swap my files to the new directory and adjust my batch files so they pointed to the right places. At first I thought that I lost everything, but then just realized that I needed to move my universe and leagues directories to the correct places. I just left my logos in the place they were before since they don't move.

victorbubba
12-31-2009, 03:02 PM
hi
but where do i find my old universe folder
i take it this is where my old sp game was

Illinihopefull
12-31-2009, 04:11 PM
This installation or upgrade is rediculous...should not have that many issues...

Illinihopefull
12-31-2009, 04:30 PM
followed instructions to a "T" and lost a 80 year single player game... I am sorry but bull shit

Ben E Lou
12-31-2009, 06:19 PM
It's probably in a hidden folder. See the sticked FAQ.

victorbubba
12-31-2009, 06:42 PM
i checked the hidden files in my documents ie roaming

definitely not there although the folder is there for new game files

i just do not know where to look next!

Jughead Spock
12-31-2009, 06:55 PM
Your old universe folder should be in C:\Program Files\Solecismic Software\Front Office Football 2007

victorbubba
01-01-2010, 01:59 AM
it doesnt seem to be there are only 2 files in there along with 2 folders off & def gameplans
they are frfoot.fgr & frfoot.fni
cannot open them so cannot check

i suspect they are just files from the update

when i ran the file converter it said files converted 14/14

just cannot find them

its 1 sp game many years old

SegRat
01-01-2010, 03:46 AM
I use windows 7. I have no idea how to show the hidden files. But I finally was able to find the FOF Folders. I went to my computer, C, Users, Nate, Then I had to type in appdata, click on the Roaming folder, solecismic software, then all my folders show up.

victorbubba
01-01-2010, 04:18 AM
i uninstalled 6.3 and reinstalled 6.2

it picked up my saved game instantly so i know its there somewhere

ran through the proceedure again and still would not pick up my game

the roaming universe folder appears to have the same universe files as in6.2 game so i dont know why it wont work

MizzouRah
01-01-2010, 12:43 PM
Help file isn't working in W7.

gstelmack
01-01-2010, 03:57 PM
Help file isn't working in W7.

I believe the release notes even said that. The original WinHelp format was not supported in Vista and that continued to Win7. Search on Microsoft's site for the link to an executable that can display the help files.

JC #11
01-01-2010, 04:09 PM
Im getting that its not a valid win/32 application. why would I be getting this. Im sure its something im doing wrong.

Ben E Lou
01-01-2010, 04:09 PM
Yup. It's in the release notes...

Try and make Front Office Football a native Vista application (the help file is still outdated). The electronic license portion, however, remains an XP application and still requires administrative privileges on first run.


...and in the Solecismic FAQ


I've pressed the F1 button, but I get a message that the help file can not be read?
Microsoft decided to "retire" its own help product with the introduction of Vista. At some point, Front Office Football will use the new html-based Windows help system (as the card game does). But, for now, you can visit Microsoft and download their help patch (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=6ebcfad9-d3f5-4365-8070-334cd175d4bb&DisplayLang=en) and install it.

tobin_perry
01-01-2010, 07:54 PM
I've run the FOFtoVista converter. I uninstalled my old version and I've trying to install the 6.3. I get an error message that says that Frontofficefootball.exe is not a valid Win32 application. I've also tried to right click and run the file as the administrator and I get a different error message. The weird thing is that the file is only 23 KB. When I download it from the Website, it says it is 40 MB. Then it downloads it in about 3 seconds and says it is only 23 KB. Anyone have any ideas? I'm running Vista and downloading the file from the link on this page (http://www.solecismic.com/support/index.php) that says "Download the installation package."

MizzouRah
01-01-2010, 08:24 PM
I believe the release notes even said that. The original WinHelp format was not supported in Vista and that continued to Win7. Search on Microsoft's site for the link to an executable that can display the help files.

My post didn't say I already read the notes and the file it says to install does not work with W7.

MizzouRah
01-01-2010, 08:27 PM
...and in the Solecismic FAQ

I guess I was trying to install the Vista help file.. when I clicked on the kb article and went to the W7 download, that worked.

.. and to think I'm an IT professional.. :banghead:

Firefly
01-01-2010, 09:24 PM
i uninstalled 6.3 and reinstalled 6.2

it picked up my saved game instantly so i know its there somewhere

ran through the proceedure again and still would not pick up my game

the roaming universe folder appears to have the same universe files as in6.2 game so i dont know why it wont work

Have you tried running a windows explorer search?

tobin_perry
01-01-2010, 10:22 PM
I've run the FOFtoVista converter. I uninstalled my old version and I've trying to install the 6.3. I get an error message that says that Frontofficefootball.exe is not a valid Win32 application. I've also tried to right click and run the file as the administrator and I get a different error message. The weird thing is that the file is only 23 KB. When I download it from the Website, it says it is 40 MB. Then it downloads it in about 3 seconds and says it is only 23 KB. Anyone have any ideas? I'm running Vista and downloading the file from the link on this page (http://www.solecismic.com/support/index.php) that says "Download the installation package."


OK ...I've went back through this forum thread. Tried to do everything that has been suggested for this problem (namely try a different browser and cleared temp files). It's not working. Why would I be downloading 23 KB files instead of the 40 MB file?

Groo
01-01-2010, 10:52 PM
OK ...I've went back through this forum thread. Tried to do everything that has been suggested for this problem (namely try a different browser and cleared temp files). It's not working. Why would I be downloading 23 KB files instead of the 40 MB file?

Your disk isn't full? Also, what directory are you downloading to? Maybe try another directory... like the desktop or just c:\

I created a folder that I use for downloads, so that I don't forget to delete them later... you could try this and see if it works.

ShaneTheMaster
01-02-2010, 08:38 AM
OK ...I've went back through this forum thread. Tried to do everything that has been suggested for this problem (namely try a different browser and cleared temp files). It's not working. Why would I be downloading 23 KB files instead of the 40 MB file?

Try clearing out your temp files in your web browser

Firefly
01-02-2010, 10:35 AM
If it's a cache problem and you're using Firefox, you can bypass the cache by right clicking and using "save as"

Ragin Cajun
01-02-2010, 10:35 AM
I run Vista and had to install my game to my Public folder as I couldn't get my leagues to work in the Program Files folder. Now, I run the Save Game Converter and it says it can't find any pre 6.3 games. I guess it only looks in the default folder? No way to point it in another direction? And if not, how can I work around this?

Flasch186
01-02-2010, 12:57 PM
in the USFL, Segrat, did the conversion and is receiving this error:

I am on 6.3. I found the folders where everything goes. But when I go to load the league it is telling me that, I think it says "unable to load depth chart file

Ive never seen of or heard of this error before. any ideas? the leaguefiles are still 6.2 but I dont think that that has any play in this.

victorbubba
01-02-2010, 01:32 PM
hi

now this how i understand the update:confused:

when you run the converter it moves your universe files to dataapp\roaming along with creating folders for saved leagues

on 6.2 my universe folder only contained 2 files frfoot.fni &frfoot.fgr

when i run the converter it says it has converted 14 files but there are only 2 files in the folder.

do these files actually contain other files or are some other files been put somewhere else meaning 6.3 cannot find them

now these 2 files say they have not been modified since 02/2008 even though i play very regularly

my saved game works perfectly on 6.2 but 6.3 cannot pick up the saved game

when you start a new game on 6.3 lots of different files are created in the new universe folder in roaming

are these the missing files that are required to run the saved game

i have tried everything i can think of to get my saved game to work:mad:

all to no avail

any help would be much appreciated

sadly solecismic are not really being much help

vic

Jughead Spock
01-02-2010, 02:41 PM
Nevermind, looks like the 'Leagues' folder is for MP leagues. Your saved games should be in the Universe folder. Weird.

mmarra82
01-02-2010, 08:12 PM
This update may have made some adjustments to the game, but I have about had it after messing around with it the past few days, you need to be a computer guru to handle this shit. I have got to say that this goes down as the biggest screw up in this game's history. It has basically become unplayable for me. Each time I open up the game and try to do something it gets completely screwed up. I have folders everywhere and this sucks!

Groo
01-02-2010, 08:38 PM
This update may have made some adjustments to the game, but I have about had it after messing around with it the past few days, you need to be a computer guru to handle this shit. I have got to say that this goes down as the biggest screw up in this game's history. It has basically become unplayable for me. Each time I open up the game and try to do something it gets completely screwed up. I have folders everywhere and this sucks!

I have to respectfully disagree with you. There are maybe 30 people that have had problems. Unless there are only 60 people playing FOF, then that means the majority of us had no problems. And I, for one, am not nor have ever been a 'computer guru'. I feel sorry for you that you've had problems, but the fact remains that you are in a significant majority. Much like politics, religion, and other controversial subjects, the vocal minority makes things seem different that the actual numbers pan out.

In any case, I hope you are able to work things out and enjoy the game again.

Chubby
01-02-2010, 08:39 PM
This update may have made some adjustments to the game, but I have about had it after messing around with it the past few days, you need to be a computer guru to handle this shit. I have got to say that this goes down as the biggest screw up in this game's history. It has basically become unplayable for me. Each time I open up the game and try to do something it gets completely screwed up. I have folders everywhere and this sucks!

Really? REALLY? Where's the owl O RLY? picture when you need it?

There's 4 steps that are pretty straightforward... even if you have issues (like mine where I couldn't unintall) it still isn't THAT bad to fix...

Hoya1
01-02-2010, 09:43 PM
in the USFL, Segrat, did the conversion and is receiving this error:



Ive never seen of or heard of this error before. any ideas? the leaguefiles are still 6.2 but I dont think that that has any play in this.
send him your league .fpx file

Flasch186
01-02-2010, 09:45 PM
send him your league .fpx file

thanks!

where should it be dropped into?

Hoya1
01-02-2010, 09:54 PM
Leagues folder.

I think this is the file that's needed.

JC #11
01-02-2010, 10:35 PM
I am having so many issues trying to get it running. I have followed the steps and when I go to download the game again it only takes 4 sec to download and then i try to run it and it says its not a valid win32 application.

I have already saved the msvcr71.dll (http://www.solecismic.com/faq/support/msvcr71.dll) where it is suppose to be, but still getting the error. I have also cleared the browser and catche files.

Please help!

Firefly
01-03-2010, 10:01 AM
hi

now this how i understand the update:confused:

when you run the converter it moves your universe files to dataapp\roaming along with creating folders for saved leagues

on 6.2 my universe folder only contained 2 files frfoot.fni &frfoot.fgr

when i run the converter it says it has converted 14 files but there are only 2 files in the folder.

do these files actually contain other files or are some other files been put somewhere else meaning 6.3 cannot find them

now these 2 files say they have not been modified since 02/2008 even though i play very regularly

my saved game works perfectly on 6.2 but 6.3 cannot pick up the saved game

when you start a new game on 6.3 lots of different files are created in the new universe folder in roaming

are these the missing files that are required to run the saved game

i have tried everything i can think of to get my saved game to work:mad:

all to no avail

any help would be much appreciated

sadly solecismic are not really being much help

vic

You don't have both versions installed at the same time, do you?

In any case, when you are using 6.2 and your saved games load, the files necessarily are in the universe folder of the folder where the game is installed. They can't be anywhere else, unless maybe you're using a batch file and loading them from somewhere else. Even then they should be copied to the universe folder and remain there, but check that anyway.

So find the location of the exe you're running (beware batch files and links) and make sure you're looking in the correct universe folder.

Ben E Lou
01-03-2010, 11:12 AM
I am having so many issues trying to get it running. I have followed the steps and when I go to download the game again it only takes 4 sec to download and then i try to run it and it says its not a valid win32 application.

I have already saved the msvcr71.dll (http://www.solecismic.com/faq/support/msvcr71.dll) where it is suppose to be, but still getting the error. I have also cleared the browser and catche files.

Please help!4 seconds? That just can't be right. I'd try it with another browser.

wade moore
01-04-2010, 08:30 AM
I had a terrible time with the batch files on Vista. Keep in mind that I had so much trouble before the patch, that I just gave up. I think this fix would have worked for me before.

I'm not sure why it does this for me and not others, but it may revolve around the fact that however this stupid machine is setup (it's a work machine, so I don't really know how to fix it) I have to run the .bat file as admin. (right click -> run as administrator). As a result, it dumps me into the windows sys32 folder.


I have mine stored in the c:\Users\Wade Moore\AppData\Roaming\Solecismic Software\Front Office Football 2007 folder:


Here is what mine looks like:

cd c:\users\wade moore\appdata\roaming\solecismic software\front office football 2007
copy WOOF\frfoot.* universe
cd c:\program files\solecismic software\front office football 2007
copy WOOF\*.bmp pictures
start FrFoot2007.exe

gstelmack
01-04-2010, 08:33 AM
The "Run As Admin" is because you are copying things into the Program Files folder, which you aren't allowed to write to.

This requires either making the FOF Program Files folder writable through the security tab, or installing somewhere outside of Program Files. Or in other words, the pre-6.3 Vista workaround. Pictures probably should have migrated to App Data as well.

QuikSand
01-05-2010, 12:56 PM
I followed the steps in Ben's installation FAQ to upgrade my XP machine, but am still having troubles loading MP games.

When I try to open a career, I see the proper list of careers available, but when selecting one it loads (I see the progress bar) but then gives me an error message in a pop-up box:

"Unable to create data files. Please restart system and/or reinstall game."

(edit -- getting the same error when trying to load a MP game)

*sigh*

Read through this thread, didn't see a good match. Ringing any bells? I looked at the "leagues" folder in the new location (C:\Documents and Settings\Noneofyourbusiness\Application Data\Solecismic Software\Front Office Football 2007\leagues), and it's loaded with files that match the league I'm trying to load up. Same for the comparable "universe" folder for my SP games -- it's all there, seemingly.

Northwood_DK
01-07-2010, 02:50 PM
My problem goes like this.

When I moved to 6.3 it moved two of my MP leagues but the last was not on the list when in opened the game.

I was missing the files below

IHOF0001.010
IHOF0001.10P
IHOF0001.10Q

Now the league shows up on the list but when I try to open it I this the message

“Unable to load game data file. Saved game is missing”

Shard77
01-07-2010, 03:09 PM
My problem goes like this.

When I moved to 6.3 it moved two of my MP leagues but the last was not on the list when in opened the game.

I was missing the files below

IHOF0001.010
IHOF0001.10P
IHOF0001.10Q

Now the league shows up on the list but when I try to open it I this the message

“Unable to load game data file. Saved game is missing”

Those three files represent your team for the IHOF league. Now it sounds like you're missing the stat files which you should be able to get from the league website/forums. Those files should look something like: IHOP001.xxxx where "xxxx" represents the stat year (e.g. IHOF001.2019). Download the stat files and put them in the new location of your "leagues" folder. You may also need to get the most recent Super Bowl file.

Northwood_DK
01-07-2010, 03:19 PM
Those three files represent your team for the IHOF league. Now it sounds like you're missing the stat files which you should be able to get from the league website/forums. Those files should look something like: IHOP001.xxxx where "xxxx" represents the stat year (e.g. IHOF001.2019). Download the stat files and put them in the new location of your "leagues" folder. You may also need to get the most recent Super Bowl file.


Thanks for the suggestion but that was not the problem. I downloaded the files but still getting the same message.

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q173/Nordskov_dk/FOF.jpg

Shard77
01-07-2010, 03:26 PM
Thanks for the suggestion but that was not the problem. I downloaded the files but still getting the same message.

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q173/Nordskov_dk/FOF.jpg

Hmm, do you have the .fni and .fcy files for that league in the leagues folder?

Northwood_DK
01-07-2010, 03:39 PM
Hmm, do you have the .fni and .fcy files for that league in the leagues folder?

Are they not going to the new "universe" folder?

Shard77
01-07-2010, 06:10 PM
Are they not going to the new "universe" folder?

Yes, sorry universe is correct.

In addition to the stat files, you should also have the following in your leagues folder:

IHOF001.ffn
IHOF001.fju
IHOF001.fpd
IHOF001.fpo
IHOF001.fps
IHOF001.frc

Northwood_DK
01-08-2010, 11:33 AM
Yes, sorry universe is correct.

In addition to the stat files, you should also have the following in your leagues folder:

IHOF001.ffn
IHOF001.fju
IHOF001.fpd
IHOF001.fpo
IHOF001.fps
IHOF001.frc

Thanks, that send me in the right direction.

For some reason I had all the files you mentioned except the IHOF001.fpo

When I added that it worked.

DDT
01-09-2010, 04:17 PM
I'm using XP

I have 6.3 installed; when I load my MP I'm at 2015, end season, email: 1. I can't import the current league file because I can't access my leagues folder. Clearly it is there. If I start a new SP league and try to load a game plan the NorthCoast for example I am shown the contents of my 'universe' folder. I can see all of my missing folders here: A folder named 'Front Office Football 2007' containing the subfolders 'export' 'import' 'leaguehtml' 'leagues' and 'universe'. Universe is the only one I am allowed to view the contents of. Another Front Office Football 2007 folder contains the 'pictures' subfolder in the location 6.2 was. Seems to me everything is where it should be any ideas on what's preventing me from viewing these folders. A windows search for NorthCoast brings back nothing but I know the file is there. Right clicking and selecting properties tells me the file is here:

C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Application Data\Solecismic Software\Front Office Football 2007\universe

I cannot view the application data folder.

DDT
01-09-2010, 05:00 PM
I'm using XP

I have 6.3 installed; when I load my MP I'm at 2015, end season, email: 1. I can't import the current league file because I can't access my leagues folder. Clearly it is there. If I start a new SP league and try to load a game plan the NorthCoast for example I am shown the contents of my 'universe' folder. I can see all of my missing folders here: A folder named 'Front Office Football 2007' containing the subfolders 'export' 'import' 'leaguehtml' 'leagues' and 'universe'. Universe is the only one I am allowed to view the contents of. Another Front Office Football 2007 folder contains the 'pictures' subfolder in the location 6.2 was. Seems to me everything is where it should be any ideas on what's preventing me from viewing these folders. A windows search for NorthCoast brings back nothing but I know the file is there. Right clicking and selecting properties tells me the file is here:

C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Application Data\Solecismic Software\Front Office Football 2007\universe

I cannot view the application data folder.

Fixed the issue

MrDNA
01-13-2010, 08:38 PM
Alright, so I am very confused. I did the converter, uninstalled, installed 6.3 and everything seemed to work perfectly. I didn't have to move any files and my old batch files opened up my MP leagues with the correct names and graphics. FOF showed as being 6.3 in the info screen. Hunky dory, right? Nope. I don't have a C:\Documents and Settings\xxx\Application Data\Solecismic Software\... folder Wha wha wha? How is that possible? Help, important export is due tomorrow AM!

MrDNA
01-13-2010, 09:16 PM
Ah, I also have resolved my problem. I needed to see hidden files under my username. How incredibly user friendly!

MattG
01-16-2010, 03:11 PM
I have installed the patch and game will not load now, it says "Front Office Football 2007 was not installed properly" any ideas?

Hey bud...same issue...how'd you get around it?

EDIT...disregard...got it. Just gotta figure out how to get my export file back in the Program File folder now.

gstelmack
01-18-2010, 08:09 AM
Wonder if someone can help me...running Vista 64 bit. Just started a career a few weeks ago. Now, I try to run the converter utility and it doesn't find my career. Other than using a custom player file and a logo mod, I left everything else at default. Not sure why this utility can't find my files.

I am pretty sure this is the same 64-bit issue I ran into with the Utility Suite. The actual registry key under 64-bit windows is:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Solecismic Software\Front Office Football 2007

I'm finally doing the upgrade at home and running into this same issue with the FOFToVista app, so I'm going to have to move files manually.

bsc29
01-23-2010, 12:09 PM
I'm wondering if anyone can help with an issue me and another guy in my league are having. We ran the utility, uninstalled 6.2, installed 6.3 and all MP league files moved into the appropriate folder in the new league folder in the appdata/roaming/etc. directory. However, when I open up, click on the multi-player tab and attempt to load my saved game, it says no multi-player games are available. The weird thing is, if I attempt to delete a multi-player league, my league shows up as available to be deleted. Any suggestions?

QuikSand
01-23-2010, 12:40 PM
Well, my "upgraded" FOF machine is still unable to handle this. Not to belabor the point, but this is really impairing my ability to follow my MP leagues, likely to the point of me having to start paring down if this is a permanent situation.

Synopsis of my situation is in the items pasted below from earlier posts here, plus exchanges with Solecismic Support.

I followed the steps in Ben's installation FAQ to upgrade my XP machine, but am still having troubles loading MP games.

When I try to open a career, I see the proper list of careers available, but when selecting one it loads (I see the progress bar) but then gives me an error message in a pop-up box:

"Unable to create data files. Please restart system and/or reinstall game."

(edit -- getting the same error when trying to load a MP game)

*sigh*

Read through this thread, didn't see a good match. Ringing any bells? I looked at the "leagues" folder in the new location (C:\Documents and Settings\Noneofyourbusiness\Application Data\Solecismic Software\Front Office Football 2007\leagues), and it's loaded with files that match the league I'm trying to load up. Same for the comparable "universe" folder for my SP games -- it's all there, seemingly.


Thanks for the guidance thus far. I apparently did have "read only" access
for the folders, but de-selecting that option didn't resolve my problem.

I deleted my frfoot.fgr file, and now I can open a career -- but I get a
warning message prior to doing so that reads:

"Unable to create multi-player stage file. Data will not be saved. Please
restart your system and/or make more room on your hard drive before trying
again."

I am about to restart my system (my hard drive has scads of
space)...assuming that doesn't resolve my issue, it looks like I remain
stuck and unable to get this to work. (I'll follow up quickly if it
resolves)


If this new error message shines any new light on this problem, I'd welcome
any ideas.

(The re-start solved nothing)

Me: Actually... for some reason, it seems that my attempts to "de-select" the
read-only option in this area are not sticking. I try to remove that
selection, confirm it, but then when i come back to the same folder, its
properties still show it as read-only. I assume this is connected, somehow.
I am using XP on this machine... is this some sort of permission issue that
I'm just not aware of?

Response: It sounds like that's the problem. But I have no idea why the read-only option would stick. I would imagine you'd need full administrative privileges to change the directory. But I'm not sure why it wouldn't default to allowing write, as the AppData area is for this purpose.

This might work: You cannot view or change the Read-only or the System attributes of folders in Windows Server 2003, in Windows XP, in Windows Vista or in Windows 7 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/326549)


I have since attempted to read through the frothy instructions from the Microsoft guide, and to use the DOS commands approach to wipe out the read-only tag on my FOF folders, so far to no avail (I get DOS errors accurately telling me I'm an idiot). Sadly, I fear this just turns into me running into my own inability to comprehend the instructions at this level, and may just mean I'm too dumb to play this game any more the way I'd like to. That's a really sad conclusion, but I'm getting the impression that's just how it's going to be.


I really do appreciate all the free help and guidance I have received from Solecismic and others here... but this whole story is really, for me, a massive indictment of this whole process. That the whole core of the most intense and dedicated users of this product are forced to employ this many backdoors and patchovers to make this program work is really unacceptable. I guess that's a backhanded way of me saying that I really must love this game a lot, because for just about anything else I have ever played, I would have abandoned all this setup-batchfile-permissions-upgrade-ResHacker-patchover nonsense a long long time ago.

*shurg*

[/rant]

Raiders Army
01-23-2010, 08:29 PM
I installed Windows 7 on my laptop I take when I travel. I couldn't find the elicense in the control panel nor would right clicking work (this was with Vista prior to the upgrade). I've spent far more money on other games that I haven't gotten as much enjoyment so I just bought the game again.

I'm not really sure how many games I'd pay full price that are a little over three years old.

Anyhow, I got it installed in Windows 7 with a clean install (wiped Vista and the hard drive). Unfortunately, I couldn't get it to run even as the admin, etc.

Maybe it was after a reboot that it finally worked, but I'd also agree this whole process is a pain in the rear.

gstelmack
01-23-2010, 08:45 PM
Look for the msvcr71.dll issue mentioned here, that should be the only thing missing to run at all.

knolysis
01-23-2010, 10:21 PM
QuikSand,

If you are willing, I have a different way to check/adjust the security settings on the game file folder. This method has worked for me in the past when I have weird permission problems.

1) Open Windows Explorer.
2) Click the Tools menu and choose "Folder Options...".
3) Click the View tab.
4) In the "Advanced settings:" list, verify the radio button is selected for "Show hidden files and folders" (it should be). If not, select it to show everything.
5) Scroll to the bottom of the list and UNCHECK the "Use simple file sharing (Recommended)" box.
6) Click OK to close the popup window and apply the settings.
7) Navigate to your game folder (should be C:\Documents and Settings\[yourUserName]\Application Data\Solecismic Software)
8) Right click on the folder and choose Properties from the popup window.
9) Click the Security tab (this should be a new tab for you).
10) Click Advanced button below the "Permissions for User" list.
11) Verify the next-to-bottom item "Inherit from parent the permission..." has a check in it (should by default).
12) Put a check mark next to "Replace permission entries on all...".
13) Click OK until you get all the windows closed. This should put all the permissions in this folder back to the way they are defined by Windows, and (fingers crossed) fix the permission problems the game is encountering.

Please Note, even after following the steps above, the folder will continue to be marked "Read-only". This is OK and how it is supposed to work (the article you hyperlinked above actually confirms that folders being marked "Read-only" are inconsequential).

QuikSand
01-25-2010, 12:28 PM
By George, I think he's got it!

I don't have words to express my thanks. And your painstaking instructions were simple enough for even me to handle. I'm truly in your debt... so far, it looks like this is actually working.

albionmoonlight
01-25-2010, 12:34 PM
knolysis for the win.

RedKingGold
01-25-2010, 12:58 PM
jknolysis

boberot
01-28-2010, 07:16 PM
Well, I've read every shred of material and can't even get the game to open, because:

"Sorry, could not get a license at this time.

Please try running this program later.

361

1"

I'm running Vista. Any help is very much appreciated.

RverDag
01-29-2010, 07:12 AM
I'm having similar problems that a person posted earlier, except there was no info as to how he fixed it.

"The Contents of this file cannot be unpacked. The executable you are trying to run has been corrupted."

What I did was uninstall the game from V6.3 (which worked fine) to V6.3a...that's when I ran into this wee problem. I then deleted all FoF files from my computer and still no dice...any thoughts?

Thanks in advance

Ben E Lou
01-29-2010, 07:36 AM
I'm having similar problems that a person posted earlier, except there was no info as to how he fixed it.

"The Contents of this file cannot be unpacked. The executable you are trying to run has been corrupted."

What I did was uninstall the game from V6.3 (which worked fine) to V6.3a...that's when I ran into this wee problem. I then deleted all FoF files from my computer and still no dice...any thoughts?

Thanks in advance
That sounds like a re-download is needed. Someone had problems downloading from solecismic.com earlier today. Maybe try the mirror?

http://www.younglifenorthdekalb.com/fof2k7downloads/FrontOfficeFootball2007.exe

(That's linked in the sticky reference thread, fwiw.)

boberot
01-29-2010, 01:54 PM
Well, I've read every shred of material and can't even get the game to open, because:

"Sorry, could not get a license at this time.

Please try running this program later.

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I'm running Vista. Any help is very much appreciated.

Just a bump to emphasize that I have a legitimate copy of the game, but I can't even get to the point where I can install the license. Has anybody seen this?

Thanks in advance if anybody has an idea . . . .

RverDag
01-29-2010, 02:05 PM
That sounds like a re-download is needed. Someone had problems downloading from solecismic.com earlier today. Maybe try the mirror?

http://www.younglifenorthdekalb.com/fof2k7downloads/FrontOfficeFootball2007.exe

(That's linked in the sticky reference thread, fwiw.)

Ben, you are a life saver!

ozias
02-14-2010, 02:06 PM
OK, I recently upgraded to Win 7 Ultimate, and went with a dual boot option on my system, so I have both XP and Win 7.

The problem I am having is getting the bitmaps to transfer to the game. It will use the default city names, and not the NFL logos I've been using.

This is my current batch file...

cd ..
copy eNFL\frfoot.* C:\Users\Oz\AppData\Roaming\soleci~1\fronto~1\universe
copy eNFL\*.bmp pictures
start FrFoot2007.exe

And the batch file is in the Program Files section, like the sticked thread stated.

Where should my bitmaps be? They are in the eNFL folder, but the batch file won't use them. It's gotten to the point I'm just going to overwrite the default logos with the NFL ones, so at least I'll have the logos I want to use, but I have a fictional solo league and have a different set of logos for it.

All 3 of my batch files will run the game perfectly fine, except for inserting the logos properly. In XP, I didn't have any problems with the logos.

Dutch
02-14-2010, 03:29 PM
If this is the same issue that I had, you need to create a shortcut back to your original install folder (a shortcut to your FOF2k7.exe file), keep the shortcut in the directory structure you noted above and update your batch file to point to the *.lnk shortcut in that folder.

ozias
02-14-2010, 04:00 PM
This is the current shortcut(below) in the C:\Users\Oz\AppData\Roaming\soleci~1\fronto~1, so you're saying I need to just change the batch from start FrFoot2007.exe into start FrFoot2007.lnk?

"C:\Program Files\solecismic software\Front Office Football 2007\FrFoot2007.exe"

Dutch
02-14-2010, 05:53 PM
You need to right-click on that file and create a shortcut, then move that shortcut file to the AppData's FOF2k7 folder where the batch file is. Then modify the batchfile to reflect the name of the shortcut file.

My shortcut file is "FOF2k7.lnk" and my batch file reflects that.

ozias
02-14-2010, 06:20 PM
OK, so I should have a shortcut to FOF2k7 in the "Appdata" section, and then all I should have to do is edit my batch file so it's like this

cd ..
copy eNFL\frfoot.* C:\Users\Oz\AppData\Roaming\soleci~1\fronto~1\universe
copy eNFL\*.bmp pictures
start FrFoot2007.lnk

Then I should move the batch file from the Program Files section into the Appdata section, as mine is currently in the Program Files section like the FAQ stated.

EDIT-Just to make things clear. This is for Win 7, not XP, in XP everything works fine.

Dutch
02-15-2010, 04:16 AM
Ah, that might be the problem. I've done this on XP and Vista.

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FOF 6.3a is installed here -->
C:\Program Files\Solecismic Software\Front Office Football 2007

A new ("second") folder structure is created here-->
C:\Documents and Settings\Mike\Application Data\Solecismic Software\Front Office Football 2007

As far as I know, the "league" files, "universe" files, "import/export" files, and all data files are now relevant in the newly created "second" folder strucuture under AppData. The executable file "FOF2k7.exe" and the pictures folder stay behind in the program folder.

Example Batch file
copy universe\IHOF\frfoot.fni universe\
copy universe\IHOF\frfoot.fcy universe\
copy universe\IHOF\*.bmp "D:\Games\Solecismic Software\Front Office Football 2007\Pictures"
start frfoot2007.exe.lnk

That being said, I'm not sure if XP/Vista and Windows 7 will be the same structure.

Jughead Spock
02-15-2010, 02:35 PM
I have a feeling your original batch file is fine, but it might be a security issue. By default, it won't allow you to overwrite those files (or anything under Program Files).

Put a Pause in there, like so -

cd ..
copy eNFL\frfoot.* C:\Users\Oz\AppData\Roaming\soleci~1\fronto~1\universe
copy eNFL\*.bmp pictures
Pause
start FrFoot2007.exe

And see if it comes up with 'access denied' or something similar.

If it is the case, you can fix it by right-clicking the shortcut and 'Run as Administrator'. Can take the pause out too.

ozias
02-16-2010, 06:34 PM
With the Pause in there, this is what I get.

The game launches like it's supposed to, after pressing a key, and has the league correct as well.

I've no idea why it tells me it can't find the frfoot.* files, as the *.fcy & *.fni files are in the eNFL folder.

And for the images, they are in the same folder as well, but it can't find them either.

I can overwrite the default league images, and then the NFL logos I've been using work fine, but that kills off my Fictional SP league, as then I just get the NFL logos for that one instead.

Jughead Spock
02-16-2010, 09:43 PM
Try the right-click 'run as administrator' thing? Your bat file looks fine (to me).

wade moore
02-17-2010, 05:08 AM
I know what it is I think - he needs to full path in the batch file for \eNFL.

So, you need to do c:\users\blah\blah\eNFL in there.

ozias
02-17-2010, 01:13 PM
This has me stumped, when I "Right Click" and Run as Administrator I get this(image below), but if I just "Double click" the program launches FOF with no problem.

I haven't changed anything in the batch file, nor have I moved any of the folders or the FrFoot.exe.

wade moore
02-17-2010, 02:21 PM
again - use the full path for frfoot2007.exe as I suggested above with the eNFL.

Do you actually read the help given, or just demand answers?

change the last line to start c:\program files\whatever\whatever\frfoot2007.exe

Same for step 2 and 3 - put in the full domain.

ozias
02-17-2010, 02:59 PM
again - use the full path for frfoot2007.exe as I suggested above with the eNFL.

Do you actually read the help given, or just demand answers?

change the last line to start c:\program files\whatever\whatever\frfoot2007.exe

Same for step 2 and 3 - put in the full domain.

I tried that as well, and it didn't make a difference.

I've read the help, and have changed my batch file around to all of the different ways I've seen them posted in the thread, but for some reason it's not working.

I've used the FAQ's batch example, chinaski's example(page 3), Dutch's example, Jughead Spock's example, and your example. None of them will use the logos from the eNFL folder.

I've un-installed FOF, and removed all traces of the leagues, and then re-installed, transferred league files over, and still haven't had any luck getting the game to use the logos I would like to use.

I can copy my logos into the Pictures folder and then they will be used, as it will overwrite the default images that come with FOF, but I'm trying to avoid overwriting the default images.

In XP I didn't have any problems with this, but with Win 7, it's perplexing me to say the least.

ozias
02-17-2010, 03:45 PM
Dola,

After doing another complete un-install and re-install, I can get it to access the frfoot.* files, and get it to access the images, but as soon as it tries to launch, it tells me it can't find the exe.

I'm including my current batch file as well, not sure if it had to do with re-naming eNFL to ENFL or not, but I'm almost there.



cd..
copy ENFL\frfoot.* C:\Users\Oz\AppData\Roaming\Soleci~1\FrontO~1\universe
copy ENFL\*.bmp pictures
pause
start FrFoot2007.exe

ozias
02-17-2010, 03:57 PM
Double Dola.

Using this

cd..
copy ENFL\frfoot.* C:\Users\Oz\AppData\Roaming\Soleci~1\FrontO~1\universe
copy ENFL\*.bmp "C:\Program Files (x86)\Solecismic Software\Front Office Football 2007\Pictures"
pause
start FrFoot2007.lnk

It is now working like it should.

I had to create a shortcut to FrFoot2007.exe, and place that in the AppData\Roaming\Sole~\Front~\universe

I also had to allow all changes to the folders in the Program Files location for the images to work.

Thanks for all of the help, I do appreciate it!!!

bulletsponge
10-10-2011, 05:29 PM
i got a problem. ive read most of the posts above but i havnt quiet figured out how to solve my problem

i just got a new computer, my old one was running XP, new one win 7. i dl the files and instal them to my roaming folder, but they dont go there as a "solecismic software" folder, all the files just go into the roaming folder. i cant even instal the game like that so i put them into a folder, but when i start the game to instal i get this message

" the feature you are trying to use is on a network resource that is unavailable"
"click OK to try again, or enter an alternate path to a folder containing the installation package 'front officefootball2007Setup.msi" in the box below"

well that file isnt in all the files that i DL. my windows 7 is a fresh install, i just started up the computer today for 1st time. is it a hidden file problem (i cant seem to find any hidden files on win 7) or is it an admin problem (im the only user on the computer)

ozias
10-10-2011, 06:22 PM
It might be an "admin" problem.

Remove all traces of the game, and re-install it, but use the right click..."run as administrator" on the exe file.

Also make sure all of the folders that you need, you have full access to.

Right click the folder and go to the "security tab", and make sure "everyone" is in the Group or user name box, and then in the Permissions for everyone box below has checkmarks in all of the fields except "special permissions", if there isn't a check in all of the fields, use the "edit" button and put them there and click ok.

tarcone
10-10-2011, 07:54 PM
I installed the game previously, but my license wouldnt work. I got a new license, but now the game wont even start. Im lost, I have tried everything. I need help. Please. I have read this. Still not working on Win7.

PhinsFan
10-11-2011, 12:54 AM
I installed the game previously, but my license wouldnt work. I got a new license, but now the game wont even start. Im lost, I have tried everything. I need help. Please. I have read this. Still not working on Win7.

if your having problems running the game from the desk top icon try this from the 1st post in this thread:

"3. Double-clicked the desktop icon - nothing. Right-clicked and ran the compatibility checker/fixer. Worked. May or may not be necessary. Run as administrator probably works fine too." if that did not work try to check the folders in the program files like the following:

if you go to this file path:
C:\Program Files\Solecismic Software\Front Office Football 2007
and right-click on the folders solecismic software and/or front office football 2007
then click properties at the bottom
then click the security tab
you will have something that looks like this

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make sure you have full control in those 2 folders if not edit the user name to have full control.

hope that helps some.