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DeToxRox

01-01-2010, 10:08 AM

Report: Arenas, Crittenton pull guns on each other
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NEW YORK (AP)—Washington Wizards teammates Gilbert Arenas(notes) and Javaris Crittenton(notes) drew guns on each other during a Christmas Eve locker room argument over a gambling debt, according to The New York Post.

Citing an anonymous source, the newspaper reports in Friday’s edition that the standoff was sparked when Crittenton became angry at Arenas for refusing to make good on a gambling debt. That prompted Arenas to draw on Crittenton, who then also grabbed for a gun, league security sources tell the Post.

Asked by the Post about the confrontation, Arenas denied pulling a gun on Crittenton.

“This is unprecedented in the history of sports,” Billy Hunter, executive director of the Player’s Association, tells the Post. “I’ve never heard of players pulling guns on each other in a locker room.”

The Wizards said on the night of Dec. 24 that Arenas had stored unloaded firearms in a container in his locker at the arena and that the NBA was looking into the situation. On Tuesday, Washington, D.C. police said they were investigating a report that weapons were found inside a locker room at the Verizon Center.

Now, the federal government is also involved. Ben Friedman, a spokesman for the US Attorney’s Office in DC, tells the Post “we’re working with the Metropolitan Police Department on the investigation.”

Just amazing.

JS19

01-01-2010, 10:12 AM

Best part is, his teammate drew one on him, too.

Logan

01-01-2010, 10:23 AM

Someone is taking the whole push to change the name back to the Bullets to a whole other level.

M GO BLUE!!!

01-01-2010, 10:29 AM

Someone is taking the whole push to change the name back to the Bullets to a whole other level.

Dammit, you beat me on the draw!

jeff061

01-01-2010, 10:45 AM

Christ, who would have thought it would be the NBA?

Oilers9911

01-01-2010, 11:05 AM

My money would be on Arenas. Everyone knows he is a better shooter than Crittendon.

Hammer755

01-01-2010, 11:06 AM

MacroGuru

01-01-2010, 11:08 AM

I can't imagine this possibly being true. A more realistic story that I've heard was that Arenas was storing unloaded guns in his locker (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/25/gilbert-arenas-guns-kept-_n_403452.html).

Right after it, Gilbert Arenas, Javaris Crittenton Drew Guns On Each Other Over Gambling Debt: Report (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/01/arenas-crittenton-guns-ga_n_408978.html)

Oilers9911

01-01-2010, 11:13 AM

I can't imagine this possibly being true. A more realistic story that I've heard was that Arenas was storing unloaded guns in his locker (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/25/gilbert-arenas-guns-kept-_n_403452.html).

You can't imagine this being true.....

In the NBA....

With Gilbert Arenas?

Radii

01-01-2010, 11:17 AM

Well, if Arenas is refusing to pay up on a bet, he pretty much deserves whatever is coming to him IMO!

Mustang

01-01-2010, 11:49 AM

A Gun? A Gun?

They are the Wizards, that is just all wrong... If 2 Wizards are going to duel, do it right Gilbert.

Rizon

01-01-2010, 11:59 AM

Dammit, you beat me on the draw!

Shit, first thing I thought of too!

stevew

01-01-2010, 12:03 PM

Arenas is #1 with a bullet on the "Billboard NBA Players Who Are Untradeable" chart

JediKooter

01-01-2010, 12:06 PM

The only thing that would have made it better is if they were dressed up as cowboys.

RainMaker

01-01-2010, 12:25 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if the Wizards reported him to the police considering a conviction on firearms charges would void that horrible contract.

bulletsponge

01-01-2010, 12:34 PM

i cant believe they actually gave him that contract. not only is he always injured and coming off a horrible injury, but hes a massivly overrated ball hog. if they can get him charged with a crime they might be able to void his contract

RainMaker

01-01-2010, 12:37 PM

If this turns out to be true, what kind of suspension comes down? I would imagine a season would be in order but I could actually see banishment from the game completely.

Hammer755

01-01-2010, 12:47 PM

Right after it, Gilbert Arenas, Javaris Crittenton Drew Guns On Each Other Over Gambling Debt: Report (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/01/arenas-crittenton-guns-ga_n_408978.html)

Unbelievable. I guess Crittenton is lucky that Arenas misses 65% of his shots.

RainMaker

01-01-2010, 01:05 PM

I think the other amusing part of the story is that Arenas was using the Verizon Center as an armory for storing weapons.

Bad-example

01-01-2010, 01:27 PM

Heh...you can take the player out of Oakland, but you can't take the Oakland out of the player.

sterlingice

01-01-2010, 01:34 PM

I think the other amusing part of the story is that Arenas was using the Verizon Center as an armory for storing weapons.

Just like in Fallout? ;)

SI

LloydLungs

01-01-2010, 02:14 PM

I always regarded Arenas as the insane but nonviolent version of Ron Artest. Guess I can go ahead and put that one away. Also, he just last night started tweeting, immediately informing the world that the mother of his kid is now too fat for him to fuck.

I love the NBA, I don't care what anybody says.

whomario

01-01-2010, 02:36 PM

so, instead of guessing the league suspension : Any prison time for this ? What´s the law for sth like this in Washington ? (it varies state to state, doesn´t it ?)
How does this compare to Plaxico Burress ?

Before i read "gambling debt" i was thinking "what kind of argument could Arenas have with a guy that´s not even on the game day roster at times ?" (stupid me actually thinking it´d be over basketball ...)

stevew

01-01-2010, 02:49 PM

Glengoyne

01-01-2010, 03:15 PM

Christ, who would have thought it would be the NBA?

Nice!

Subby

01-01-2010, 03:55 PM

http://3.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kq4ytgtXx21qzv9mho1_500.jpg

JonInMiddleGA

01-01-2010, 04:20 PM

He oughta try that shit in K-Town, he'd get his ass smoked by superior firepower.

Karlifornia

01-01-2010, 04:27 PM

In the NBA? I CAN'T BELIEVE IT!!

/dumbass racist fucks

EDIT: Go back to watching something more civilized, like fugly Canadians punching each other in the face while foaming-at-the-mouth inbreds scream "Rip each others heads off!"

DeToxRox

01-01-2010, 04:36 PM

jeff061

01-01-2010, 04:41 PM

I can't even decipher what he's trying to say.

DaddyTorgo

01-01-2010, 04:43 PM

Karlifornia

01-01-2010, 05:20 PM

fwiw i don't think the comment was racist at all karl, and you come off like you're looking for a fight.

it's a fact that the NBA as a league has probably the highest % of its players involved in "incidents" - particularly incidents involving guns, etc.

therefore it's not really surprising.

Yeah, I am looking for a fight, because that's one of my biggest pet peeves in the world. Great, it's "probably a fact". Okay. Then why do not one, but TWO people need to chime in the fucking tired ass old WASP line "Oh, par for the course the NBA!" every time something happens. Wouldn't that be akin to two people saying "water is wet" in every thread? Why the fuck even bother saying it? You aren't contributing anything at all to the conversation. No humor, no original thought. Just "Oh, it's the NBA". Spare me. We've got drama in every sport. It's not just the NBA. Just from this year:

Golf: Tiger Woods scandal

NASCAR: Jeremy Mayfield meth scandal

Football: Tennessee football players, Jimmy Clausen bar fight

Baseball: Josh Hamilton

Hockey: Players brawling with each other every game, much to the delight of an audience that would go "Oh, it's the NBA, not surprising" if two basketball players fight on the court.

Errg. Sorry it just pisses me off.

Karlifornia

01-01-2010, 05:28 PM

Oh, and Subby..that picture is awesome.

jeff061

01-01-2010, 05:43 PM

We all know you aren't too bright Karl. No reason to be redundant.

Logan

01-01-2010, 06:02 PM

Axxon

01-01-2010, 06:13 PM

Yeah, I am looking for a fight, because that's one of my biggest pet peeves in the world. Great, it's "probably a fact". Okay. Then why do not one, but TWO people need to chime in the fucking tired ass old WASP line "Oh, par for the course the NBA!" every time something happens. Wouldn't that be akin to two people saying "water is wet" in every thread? Why the fuck even bother saying it? You aren't contributing anything at all to the conversation. No humor, no original thought. Just "Oh, it's the NBA". Spare me. We've got drama in every sport. It's not just the NBA. Just from this year:

Golf: Tiger Woods scandal

NASCAR: Jeremy Mayfield meth scandal

Football: Tennessee football players, Jimmy Clausen bar fight

Baseball: Josh Hamilton

Hockey: Players brawling with each other every game, much to the delight of an audience that would go "Oh, it's the NBA, not surprising" if two basketball players fight on the court.

Errg. Sorry it just pisses me off.

Sorry, it has nothing at all to do with race, it has to do with culture. The NBA isn't about being black but about being a thug. A culture is something you choose, a race you don't have a choice about.

When I hear that two sports team mates drew guns I'm going to naturally think NBA first but if someone says two dudes drew guns on each other I'm not naturally thinking black guys. Huge difference.

Suburban Rhythm

01-01-2010, 06:27 PM

The only thing that would have made it better is if they were dressed up as cowboys.

All I could hear when I read this is Arenas "This lockerroom ain't big enough for the both of us"

JediKooter

01-01-2010, 07:23 PM

All I could hear when I read this is Arenas "This lockerroom ain't big enough for the both of us"

I'll be your huckleberry.

Chief Rum

01-01-2010, 07:32 PM

EDIT: Go back to watching something more civilized, like fugly Canadians punching each other in the face while foaming-at-the-mouth inbreds scream "Rip each others heads off!"

Hockey: Players brawling with each other every game, much to the delight of an audience that would go "Oh, it's the NBA, not surprising" if two basketball players fight on the court.

Hey, I don't have a problem with you being mad at this, Karl, or with your stance, but if you really want to pick a fight with hockey fans on the board, this is a good way to go about it. You obviously don't have a fucking clue about the game, so maybe next time you stick to stuff you do have a clue about, whatever that is.

Logan

01-01-2010, 07:48 PM

Those thug boxers and MMAers who slug away at each other are bad for our country.

BYU 14

01-01-2010, 08:01 PM

Sorry, it has nothing at all to do with race, it has to do with culture. The NBA isn't about being black but about being a thug. A culture is something you choose, a race you don't have a choice about.

When I hear that two sports team mates drew guns I'm going to naturally think NBA first but if someone says two dudes drew guns on each other I'm not naturally thinking black guys. Huge difference.

spot on. I would also add the element of self entitlement that many pro athletes feel and that also extends to all sports and races and is also a choice. Be thankful you have the ability to become a millionaire playing a game, or be an ignorant dick who thinks he/she can make their own rules and do what the fuck they want.

In terms of throwing Hockey under the bus, Hockey players off the Ice are the most down to earth "normal" athletes of the major sports and that also has to do with culture and choices. You don't see Anson Carter, Georges Larague or Donald Brashears et al, doing stupid shit like taking guns into clubs or pulling them out in locker rooms.

jeff061

01-01-2010, 08:09 PM

I think the NBA has a higher ratio of neck tattoos as well.

But that's just the racist in me talking.

Chief Rum

01-01-2010, 08:15 PM

Pumpy Tudors

01-01-2010, 08:16 PM

You don't see Anson Carter, Georges Larague or Donald Brashears et al, doing stupid shit like taking guns into clubs or pulling them out in locker rooms.
So for comedy value, this led me to look at Anson Carter's fight log on hockeyfights.com. It lists five fights for him, and these were his opponents:

1/29/97 - Rod Brind'Amour
3/19/98 - Jason Smith
2/12/01 - Kelly Buchberger
10/20/01 - Bill Lindsey
10/20/05 - Keith Ballard

I think Anson Carter would need to pull a gun to have a chance against any of those guys.

Chief Rum

01-01-2010, 08:21 PM

So for comedy value, this led me to look at Anson Carter's fight log on hockeyfights.com. It lists five fights for him, and these were his opponents:

1/29/97 - Rod Brind'Amour
3/19/98 - Jason Smith
2/12/01 - Kelly Buchberger
10/20/01 - Bill Lindsey
10/20/05 - Keith Ballard

I think Anson Carter would need to pull a gun to have a chance against any of those guys.

Heh...when BYU posted his example of good NHL players, I just looked at the list and realized his examples are all black, and was thinking, "Man, why did he pick all black players as good examples?..." Then my "intelligence" gene finally kicked in and realized that was his point, lol...

Karlifornia

01-01-2010, 09:03 PM

My bad...I had just woken up and was in a terrible mood. Sorry to Jeff and Oilers and anyone else I offended. It's kind of a sensitive issue, and I took it out on people who didn't really deserve it.

Axxon

01-01-2010, 09:07 PM

BYU 14

01-01-2010, 09:09 PM

miami_fan

01-01-2010, 09:17 PM

FWIW, I think the NBA gets a bad rap from a few bad apples and actually has a ton of good guys, probably as many as most other sports as a percentage. But their bad guys seem to get in worse messes. I'm almost as big a fan of the NBA as I am the NHL.

All that said, anyone trying to step to the NHL had better be ready for a throwdown. ;)

It probably would not be that big of an issue if the same reaction was done in other situations. Let's just take the last month or so. Chris Henry was died in a domestic violence situation, Terrell Suggs had a restraining order filed against him, two more players were caught with DUIs and one player was caught with weed in his car. These were either ignored, or dealt with as an individual issue. At no point during the Chris Henry thread or when there was a mention of Jonathan Babineaux's arrest for marijuana possession where there any posts about this being about the NFL. If the Arenas incident was obviously about the NBA, shouldn't the incidents above obviously be a relflection of the quality of individuals in the NFL?

miami_fan

01-01-2010, 09:22 PM

It would kind of like hockey fans who complain that the people make their judgments about the entire NHL today based on the Marty McSorley incident.

JonInMiddleGA

01-01-2010, 09:26 PM

If the Arenas incident was obviously about the NBA, shouldn't the incidents above obviously be a relflection of the quality of individuals in the NFL?

Well there is the percentages of incidents issue that makes the NBA look worse by comparison.

By the same token, I don't hold a lot of the NFL in particularly high regard either, so none of that is particularly surprising either.

Axxon

01-01-2010, 09:38 PM

It would kind of like hockey fans who complain that the people make their judgments about the entire NHL today based on the Marty McSorley incident.

Some events are perceived as out of character for their league and some events are perceived as being in character for their league. McSorley's incident was out of character for anybody.

wade moore

01-02-2010, 07:40 AM

I wouldn't disagree but the league is marketed that way for some reason. Maybe the problem is how few NBA players there are compared to other sports so the bad apples stick out worse.

Thats a good point to and you only hear about the good stuff when it is a slow day for bad stuff.

I've heard many argue, and I think it's possible they're on to something, that much of why the NBA has the "Thug" image is because they don't have pads, helmets, hats, long pants, etc to cover up the tattoos, facial hair, mean scowls, etc that the other sports do.

In the NBA you "see" the players more than any of the other major sports - and many people don't like what they "see".

jeff061

01-02-2010, 07:44 AM

Yes there is the helmet thing. There is also the coach strangulation and fan pummeling thing. Guess you can add the pull gun on teammate in locker room thing to the list now.

jbergey22

01-02-2010, 08:20 AM

Whether or not this is true or not. It doesnt help with the public imagine of the NBA. Gambling and guns. Throw in a an once of weed and them two hit the trifecta.

I'm not a huge fan of the "hands on" approach but the commish has to figure out a way to clean up the league. For every Tim Ducan and Lebron James there are too many Gilbert Arenas and Stephen Jackson types that bring down what the good guys are doing.

On the other hand like Kali pointed out even in golf and Nascar these days we have some type of scandals.

OldGiants

01-02-2010, 09:29 AM

What Would Plaxico Burress Do?

sterlingice

01-02-2010, 10:01 AM

All I could hear when I read this is Arenas "This lockerroom ain't big enough for the both of us"

:D

SI

Radii

01-02-2010, 03:45 PM

From Shelden Williams Twitter page(btw, this site is awesome http://www.twitter-athletes.com):

SheldenWilliams I understand javaris situation I mean gilbert owed him 150 thousand dollars that affects his life way more than gilberts

DaddyTorgo

01-02-2010, 03:49 PM

150k?? damn!

Radii

01-02-2010, 03:55 PM

stevew

01-02-2010, 06:35 PM

Eh. Hopefully Shelden cleared that one with the wife first. As Mr Candace Parker he should keep himself out of stuff.

JediKooter

01-02-2010, 07:42 PM

I wonder if they will claim the Pete Rose defense on the gambling...

RainMaker

01-02-2010, 08:06 PM

yeah heh I mean Shelden Williams isn't necessarily a reliable source but I still find the gambling aspect of this more interesting than the fact that two NBA players have guns and are capable of doing some incredibly stupid things.
Depends on the type of gambling. If it's on games, then it's a big issue. But I already assume that most athletes gamble on cards or other things. It's just what happens when young, wealthy men with a lot of downtime do.

Radii

01-02-2010, 08:32 PM

Depends on the type of gambling. If it's on games, then it's a big issue. But I already assume that most athletes gamble on cards or other things. It's just what happens when young, wealthy men with a lot of downtime do.

If someone makes a bet and doesn't pay up I really don't care what the bet was on. I'm not talking about the NBA or any sort of policy on gambling, I'm talking about the fact that if Gilbert Arenas is trying to get out of paying up some sort of prop bet with Javaris Crittendon then he is pretty much fucking scum and may not deserve to be shot but a good beating is in order.

DaddyTorgo

01-02-2010, 08:45 PM

If someone makes a bet and doesn't pay up I really don't care what the bet was on. I'm not talking about the NBA or any sort of policy on gambling, I'm talking about the fact that if Gilbert Arenas is trying to get out of paying up some sort of prop bet with Javaris Crittendon then he is pretty much fucking scum and may not deserve to be shot but a good beating is in order.

especially for that amount of money

stevew

01-02-2010, 08:45 PM

It would be hilarious if this was a fantasy football payout dispute based on the Kurt Warner scoring change

JPhillips

01-02-2010, 08:49 PM

There is a good lesson for children here.

Don't gamble with crazy people.

sterlingice

01-02-2010, 09:16 PM

It would be hilarious if this was a fantasy football payout dispute based on the Kurt Warner scoring change

Gold :D

SI

stevew

01-02-2010, 09:24 PM

I don't have a link handy. Basically gilbert supposedly bailed on a card game that he didn't like the rules of. Jarvis got stuck paying a big pot. Arenas alledgedly taunted that he was going to set the guys car on fire. Jarvis threatened to shoot him in the bad knee. Apparently after a practice Arenas set out 4 guns by the dudes locker with a sign that said. "pick one". And tempers flared.

I will find a link later. Sounds like it was relatively no big deal.

Chief Rum

01-03-2010, 04:46 AM

I don't have a link handy. Basically gilbert supposedly bailed on a card game that he didn't like the rules of. Jarvis got stuck paying a big pot. Arenas alledgedly tainted that he was going to set the guys car on fire. Jarvis threatened to shoot him in the bad knee. Apparently after a practice seerbas set out 4 guns by the dudes locker with a sign that said. "pick one". And tempers flared.

I will find a link later. Sounds like it was relatively no big deal.

Hmm, okay, what little I can understand of this, sounds like a pretty big damn deal to me.

I'm sifting through what you have here, stevew, so correct me if I have it wrong.

1. Agent Zero is about to lose a game because of a rule he doesn't like, so he jumps.
2. JCritt is left holding the bag and has to pay the pot.
3. I'm a little fuzzy what you're saying here--Arenas threatened to set who's car on fire? Crittenton's? Or the guy who won? If it was JCritt's, was it because Crittenton was demanding he pay? Or, later on, is JCritt mad because Arenas said the car thing and the guy who won is a friend of Crittenton's?
4. Jarvis threatened to shoot him in the bad knee. Okay easy enough to understand, although if I were him and had that mindset, I would have threatened to shoot him in the good knee.
5. Who the hell is seerbas?
6. Assuming seerbas is connected to either JCritt or Arenas, which is it?

Regardless, guns being set out after a gun threat is made, along with a message that says "pick one" is about as fucked up as it gets. No idea how that's not a big deal.

bhlloy

01-03-2010, 05:09 AM

I always thought Arenas was one of the "good guys" in the NBA, but I may have been completely off base. In any case, he makes almost 50x the amount of money Crittendon does over the length of their comparitive contracts. If any of this is true he's pretty clearly in the giant D-bag category now.

Assuming everything does go down as above and the NBA can prove it, what are the suspensions? 2 players pulling weapons on each other on NBA property in DC with the crazy gun laws, on top of the 150k gambling debts being run up has to be pretty unprecidented, no?

RainMaker

01-03-2010, 05:26 AM

Hmm, okay, what little I can understand of this, sounds like a pretty big damn deal to me.
To us and any other professional sports league it is a big deal. This is the NBA where this shit is cool.

stevew

01-03-2010, 03:58 PM

hxxp://www.mikejonessports.com/2010/01/startling-picture-starting-to-become.html

From that blog....

As more newshound reporters dig in following the Yahoo! Sports and New York Post pistol-packing-point-guard stories which broke yesterday morning, the circumstances surrounding Gilbert Arenas and Javaris Crittenton and their spat are starting to become more clear.

ESPN's Marc Stein reported this morning that Arenas laid three guns on a chair next to Javaris Crittenton's locker and told him to pick one, and that this was the continuation from their dispute surrounding a card game they engaged in during the Dec. 20th flight back from Phoenix. The Washington Post's Michael Lee wrote today that sources that spoke to Arenas about the incident said it was "horse play." And NBA.com's David Aldridge broke down the serious consequences Arenas could face over this matter.

I've spoken with a few sources close to the situation -- including one individual that was in the locker room at the time and Arenas, as he tweeted yesterday had no malicious intent. And like Lee said, horse play was involved. That doesn't make this any less serious, however. If your franchise player is horsing around with guns on team property, no matter how good a mood he is in, it's still in violation of league policy and D.C. gun possession laws.

From what I've gathered, Arenas, Crittenton and some teammates were indeed playing a card game on the flight back from Phoenix, and both Crittenton and Arenas were coming up on the losing end, but Arenas didn't owe $25,000, and the amount wasn't owed to Crittenton, but to JaVale McGee. Arenas bailed on the game unhappy with the rules, and Crittenton was left to pay the pot, much to his displeasure, so he was trying earnestly to get Arenas to pay his part. Tempers flared during this dispute and I'm told Crittenton wanted to fight Arenas for backing out of paying up. Arenas, meanwhile, said he would burn Crittenton's car, and Crittenton said he would shoot Arenas in his bad left knee.

That brings us to practice on Dec. 21 when Arenas placed four guns -- the ones he had brought into the locker room to store in his locked box, according to him to keep from his children-- on the chair of Crittenton with a note 'pick one' on top. Crittenton came into the locker room where Arenas was waiting and ready for a good laugh, but Crittenton wasn't as amused as Arenas continued joking around. A source says teammates told Crittenton not to take the taunts from Arenas so seriously, but the younger guard didn't appreciate being made fun of and chucked one of Arenas' guns across the locker room and said "I have a gun of my own." The situation was soon diffused I'm told Ernie Grunfeld learned of the spat and first heard Arenas pulled a gun in the locker room and then reported him to the league office. At that time, I'm told Grunfeld began considering either voiding Arenas' contract or trading him. Upon further investigation, Grunfeld learned more of the facts and has cooled slightly and is in a wait and see mode. The NBA is watching and waiting as well, allowing the D.C. police and U.S. Attorney's office to proceed with their investigation before David Stern hands out any suspension and fines.

A source who has spoken to Arenas, who yesterday continually downplayed the seriousness of the incident, said if the authorities buy his story of joking around and unloaded guns, and him being unaware of the D.C. gun laws, they could simply hand out a fine and community service. But, if they don't and he receives a felony charge, the maximum punishment is a five-year prison term and/or a $5,000 fine.

If that happened, the Wizards would execute the "morality clause" in Arenas' contract -- every player's contract has this -- and they would get the remaining three years, $67.7 million owed to him off their books.

Even if this hadn't happened, the Wizards were considering making a move, and I'm told they would like to do so within the next 14 days. One of the scenarios mentioned has been Arenas and Mike James to Houston, but I'm told by a source "that deal is unrealistic." A source close to Arenas said he has no desire to leave the Wizards, but his bosses could be growing tired of his antics, and teammates, I'm hearing, are beyond over having to explain for him and would like more maturity in the locker room. It could be a challenge to find a team willing to take on not only that contract, but also Arenas' strong personality and off-court baggage he has right now.

The Wizards might not have a hard time dealing Caron Butler in a package deal with James, however, but not to Houston. I'm hearing Butler and James could be headed to either Miami or Chicago. Some of the pieces Washington could be trying to get back from Chicago, the source said, could be Kirk Hinrich and Jerome James. Before, the Wizards hadn't wanted to take on more money, but it appears that as they grow more desperate to turn things around, their main motivation is bringing in new life to kick-start a rebound.

Despite all the distractions, I'm told Arenas will play tonight. Flip Saunders had said yesterday that the guard might not play because of soreness in his left knee, but the knee isn't that bad today. It will be interesting to see how well the Wizards do against the Spurs with all this going on, and I'm sure it will be a circus at Verizon Center tonight.

Pumpy Tudors

01-03-2010, 04:01 PM

To us and any other professional sports league it is a big deal. This is the NBA where this shit is cool.
I thought this part of the conversation was over with.

stevew

01-03-2010, 04:05 PM

Hmm, okay, what little I can understand of this, sounds like a pretty big damn deal to me.

I'm sifting through what you have here, stevew, so correct me if I have it wrong.

1. Agent Zero is about to lose a game because of a rule he doesn't like, so he jumps.-yes
2. JCritt is left holding the bag and has to pay the pot.-yes
3. I'm a little fuzzy what you're saying here--Arenas threatened to set who's car on fire? Crittenton's? Or the guy who won? If it was JCritt's, was it because Crittenton was demanding he pay? Or, later on, is JCritt mad because Arenas said the car thing and the guy who won is a friend of Crittenton's?-Crittenton's car, cause he wanted to fight Arenas over the thing
4. Jarvis threatened to shoot him in the bad knee. Okay easy enough to understand, although if I were him and had that mindset, I would have threatened to shoot him in the good knee.-yes
5. Who the hell is seerbas?-Arenas, it was a blackberry typo
6. Assuming seerbas is connected to either JCritt or Arenas, which is it?-It's Arenas
Regardless, guns being set out after a gun threat is made, along with a message that says "pick one" is about as fucked up as it gets. No idea how that's not a big deal.-Arenas thought he was being funny and joking, but apparently Jarvis has a very short temper. And wasn't wanting to take shit from Gilbert anymore.

Ok?

Karlifornia

01-03-2010, 04:08 PM

SEERBAS!

stevew

01-03-2010, 04:08 PM

And "not a big deal" meaning it was merely horseplay involving probably unloaded weapons, instead of a full on loaded guns pointed at each other showdown.

Probably a bad choice of words, on my part. Obviously it's serious, as you should never joke around with guns. But it wasn't an alledgedly full on John Woo showdown like it was initially described.

Logan

01-03-2010, 04:09 PM

There is absolutely no way Grunfeld is only in a "wait and see mode." If he has any chance to void that contract, he'll do it.

Chief Rum

01-03-2010, 04:25 PM

Ok?

Yup, thanks. Sorry if I came off wrong, but, honestly, I couldn't make heads or tails of it how you wrote it.

RainMaker

01-03-2010, 07:34 PM

I still find the amusing part not the reported conflict but the fact that Arenas had 4 guns readily available to him at the Verizon Center.

Groundhog

01-03-2010, 07:41 PM

Yup, I'm sure the Wizards would absolutely love to void Arena's contract if they could, no question about that at all IMO.

DeToxRox

01-14-2010, 03:53 PM

Arenas is charged with felony gun possession.

RainMaker

01-14-2010, 03:55 PM

They'll make an example out of him. Guy is a moron. Wizards owner is throwing a huge party.

DeToxRox

01-14-2010, 03:57 PM

They'll make an example out of him. Guy is a moron. Wizards owner is throwing a huge party.

I believe their owner died, but I am not sure if a new owner is in place. Still, whoever takes over has a golden ticket as I am sure they can invoke the poison pill in his contract and void it.

CamEdwards

01-14-2010, 03:59 PM

They'll make an example out of him. Guy is a moron. Wizards owner is throwing a huge party.

Actually local media reports indicate he'll likely be able to cop a plea bargain with no jail time.

RainMaker

01-14-2010, 04:00 PM

Actually local media reports indicate he'll likely be able to cop a plea bargain with no jail time.
Jail isn't what I'd be worried about for him, it's losing that contract. Lot of money that he'll never see from another NBA team.

Logan

01-14-2010, 09:27 PM

I believe their owner died

Priceless, considering the OG source of the comment.

miami_fan

03-26-2010, 07:46 PM

Gilbert Arenas of Washington Wizards sentenced to 1 month in halfway house - ESPN (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5031063)

So Gilbert stays out of jail.