The 2010 Video Games Thread [Archive] - Page 5 - Front Office Football Central

JonInMiddleGA

06-02-2010, 07:30 PM

Jon breaking out an anime reference? Never would have seen that one coming.

You're kidding? It's been discussed a few times here although probably not all that recently.

Big O is one of my all-time favorites (maybe my #1 all-time favorite). There's also a Vash the Stampede shirt up in my closet, as well as an old school Speed Racer shirt, and I've got Racer X wall art hanging right beside my coffee room down here in the basement.

Scoobz0202

06-02-2010, 07:33 PM

Perfect through 8 on 75 pitches.

Scoobz0202

06-02-2010, 07:41 PM

oh..wondered where the above post went..

sterlingice

06-03-2010, 07:57 AM

Just for nostalgia's sake, here's The Big O with Pat Riley & an unidentified cheerleader

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a137/Dyanicess/Wallpapers/big-o-1.jpg (http://media.photobucket.com/image/the%20big%20o/Dyanicess/Wallpapers/big-o-1.jpg?o=1)

I appreciate it as, on boards allowing icons, I tend to use Roger Smith.

SI

Mizzou B-ball fan

06-03-2010, 08:31 AM

For the PS3 owners, might want to give the Planet Minigolf demo a spin. Pretty nice game for $10 with the option to create your own holes.

Tigercat

06-03-2010, 09:53 AM

Big O is one of my all-time favorites (maybe my #1 all-time favorite). There's also a Vash the Stampede shirt up in my closet, as well as an old school Speed Racer shirt, and I've got Racer X wall art hanging right beside my coffee room down here in the basement.

Mind blown. Especially on Vash, you do realize he is a bleeding heart hippie? ;)

JonInMiddleGA

06-03-2010, 10:32 AM

Mind blown. Especially on Vash, you do realize he is a bleeding heart hippie? ;)

Yeah, but it's one hell of a character. Plus it was a lot easier to find than a Wolfwood shirt (Wolfwood was my avatar picture in the old Omerta online game).

sterlingice

06-03-2010, 11:56 AM

I think we've had this conversation before, but, yeah, Wolfwood is quite fitting :)

SI

Pumpy Tudors

06-03-2010, 04:08 PM

Perfect through 8 on 75 pitches.
so how did it end up

Scoobz0202

06-03-2010, 07:03 PM

so how did it end up

Don't read the MLB thread. You might hit 35%.

Mizzou B-ball fan

06-04-2010, 02:25 PM

Another iNfamous game on the way. Likely a E3 reveal.

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/109/1094766p1.html

Mizzou B-ball fan

06-04-2010, 08:24 PM

I.......well...........you be the judge......Natal in action........

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k0ruptr

06-04-2010, 09:24 PM

lmao that looks fricken awesome, i cant wait for this haha!

TroyF

06-04-2010, 09:51 PM

Hmm. Looks stupid on one hand. . . but it did look like the people participating were having a blast. Like everything, it depends on the games released for it. I doubt I'll want it, but if a killer app comes out, I have enough relatives who would enjoy playing it could be worth a purchase. (not at 150 though)

RainMaker

06-05-2010, 02:13 AM

I think it looks fun. Seems like something that would be perfect if you were in college and had a bunch of roommates you could get drunk with and play. Also a nice addition for people looking to lose weight.

I don't think it's for everyone, but I think it looks like fun.

RainMaker

06-05-2010, 02:14 AM

Another iNfamous game on the way. Likely a E3 reveal.

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/109/1094766p1.html
That's good news. It was a real fun game.

MizzouRah

06-05-2010, 09:12 AM

I think it looks fun too.. I'm sure this household will be getting it.. I mean, if we can have friends over playing Just Dance on the wii, this might take it to the next level. :)

Greyroofoo

06-05-2010, 09:20 AM

It looks like it would be great for parties but I don't see me doing that by myself.

Mizzou B-ball fan

06-07-2010, 06:59 AM

Looks like another good indie game. Joe Danger is getting some really good reviews with most noting that it's a great upgrade on the Excitebike formula. Here's a video review......

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wade moore

06-07-2010, 07:26 AM

So, I don't keep up with stuff as much these days.

So Natal is completely camera (or whatever) based? And it's supposed to be as responsive as the Wii Remote?

Interesting if so.

Mizzou B-ball fan

06-07-2010, 07:39 AM

So, I don't keep up with stuff as much these days.

So Natal is completely camera (or whatever) based? And it's supposed to be as responsive as the Wii Remote?

Interesting if so.

1. Yes, it's completely camera-based.

2. Early reviews have been mixed on how responsive it is, but I'm not sure it's totally fair since it's still being worked on. Microsoft is having a separate presentation at E3 solely for the Natal accessories, so we'll get a heavy helping of what it's about and likely several demos.

sterlingice

06-07-2010, 07:58 AM

Hopefully Project Natal is no longer racist, too ;)

SI

wade moore

06-07-2010, 08:00 AM

1. Yes, it's completely camera-based.

2. Early reviews have been mixed on how responsive it is, but I'm not sure it's totally fair since it's still being worked on. Microsoft is having a separate presentation at E3 solely for the Natal accessories, so we'll get a heavy helping of what it's about and likely several demos.

Interesting.

My Wii has become a really expensive scale, so I'm not sure how much it would appeal to me as a game - but the technology intrigues me.

spleen1015

06-07-2010, 08:23 AM

Interesting.

My Wii has become a really expensive scale, so I'm not sure how much it would appeal to me as a game - but the technology intrigues me.

???

Super Mario Galaxy!! Both of them!! EPIC WIN!!!

Kodos

06-07-2010, 08:28 AM

Some of us aren't excited by Mario games.

sterlingice

06-07-2010, 08:30 AM

You must lead a boring and colorless life ;)

SI

Kodos

06-07-2010, 08:31 AM

So they tell me.

wade moore

06-07-2010, 08:37 AM

Yeah, I haven't played a Mario game (unless you count Smash Bros) since my Super Nintendo.

terpkristin

06-07-2010, 09:14 AM

Yeah, I haven't played a Mario game (unless you count Smash Bros) since my Super Nintendo.

I will say, I REALLY like New Super Mario Bros. Wii. Wasn't that stoked by Mario Galaxy, but NSMB Wii has been a ton of fun, both on my own and with friends or with my sister and her fiance.

On a completely different note, I'm really looking for a hack-and-slash type RPG, preferably for a handheld (I'm recovering from surgery at my parents' house, so no XBOX or PS3 here). It surprises me how few of those there are in general for consoles/handhelds.

/tk

wade moore

06-07-2010, 09:53 AM

I will say, I REALLY like New Super Mario Bros. Wii. Wasn't that stoked by Mario Galaxy, but NSMB Wii has been a ton of fun, both on my own and with friends or with my sister and her fiance.

On a completely different note, I'm really looking for a hack-and-slash type RPG, preferably for a handheld (I'm recovering from surgery at my parents' house, so no XBOX or PS3 here). It surprises me how few of those there are in general for consoles/handhelds.

/tk

I just think my gaming habits have changed. Platformers do not interest me. I'm really focused on sports games with fine diversions here and there like CoD: MW2 or Final Fantasy (which I really haven't made it very far on).

Oh - and of course the occasional RB/GH.

RainMaker

06-07-2010, 03:24 PM

Pastapadre is reporting that the NCAA is involved in talks with the NHL series. /potential drool
Just curious on this. Would it be adding college teams to the game, or making a seperate game for college hockey? While having the teams in the game would be cool, I'd really like to play out a college hockey season with all the teams.

Honolulu_Blue

06-07-2010, 03:42 PM

Yeah, I haven't played a Mario game (unless you count Smash Bros) since my Super Nintendo.

I haven't played one since the one that came with the original Nintendo. Was that Super Mario Bros? Or Super Mario Bros 2?

I guess I did play Super Mario Kart. Does that count?

MJ4H

06-07-2010, 03:48 PM

Super Mario Bros. No, Kart doesn't count since it isn't a platformer.

Honolulu_Blue

06-07-2010, 04:20 PM

Super Mario Bros. No, Kart doesn't count since it isn't a platformer.

Gotcha. Yeah, I don't really like platformers. I can't remember the last one I played, but I imagine it was on the Sega Genesis or maybe it was on Dreamcast or Playstation 1?

I might be wrong, but I think the last platformer I remember playing was "Apocalypse" with Bruce Willis.

He yelled out "Strap one on, it's time to jam!" among other things in the game. But that last line stuck out for, uh, obvious reasons.

DaddyTorgo

06-07-2010, 04:40 PM

Mizzou B-ball fan

06-07-2010, 04:49 PM

i guess i'm supposed to wait to buy a PS3 now until they come out with their new wii-esque stuff so that will drive down the bundle price of the non-wiii-esque packages?

Don't really wanna wait much past next month though.

I doubt they will drop the standard $299 price this year. They will probably do a $349 bundle with motion control.

Kodos

06-07-2010, 09:24 PM

The only platformer I really enjoy is Ratchet & Clank.

mckerney

06-08-2010, 11:20 PM

Just curious on this. Would it be adding college teams to the game, or making a seperate game for college hockey? While having the teams in the game would be cool, I'd really like to play out a college hockey season with all the teams.

I'm also interested in just playing the college teams, though I would guess it's going to be the option to play with college team in the NHL games. I'd be surprised if a college only game would sell well enough for hockey.

MJ4H

06-09-2010, 12:12 PM

sterlingice

06-09-2010, 09:37 PM

Finally they have a book list! Been waiting for that for a while. They had a list for the UK version for the longest time but not the US version.

Since it's only $20. I'll probably get it and it's a pretty nice selection of public domain books.

SI

illinifan999

06-09-2010, 09:50 PM

Just curious on this. Would it be adding college teams to the game, or making a seperate game for college hockey? While having the teams in the game would be cool, I'd really like to play out a college hockey season with all the teams.

Yeah I'm wondering how far they're going to go with it. I would hope they would do something like they've done with the AHL and have it be a playable league, but I suspect that would be a bit too much. I'm expecting the NCAA teams to be in the game like all the Euro teams. Playable in exhibition, and can be used to replace an NHL team for dynasty.

Clearly the most needed addition to NHL 11 would be playoff beards.

mckerney

06-09-2010, 10:11 PM

Yeah I'm wondering how far they're going to go with it. I would hope they would do something like they've done with the AHL and have it be a playable league, but I suspect that would be a bit too much. I'm expecting the NCAA teams to be in the game like all the Euro teams. Playable in exhibition, and can be used to replace an NHL team for dynasty.

That would have me much less interested. I'd want to be able to play for the MacNaughton Cup and Broadmoor Trophy.

RainMaker

06-09-2010, 10:26 PM

I figure they'd use it in the Be a Pro mode. You start off there before getting drafted potentially. Sort of like how The Show uses the minors.

I would hope it could be a playable league, but I don't know if EA really would put that kind of effort into a series they already dominate.

illinifan999

06-10-2010, 01:19 AM

So I've been playing the hell out of the FIFA World Cup game winning the WC with the US and Netherlands. I just started a new campaign with Cameroon. In my first group is Somalia, Djibouti, and Kenya. Even though they present absolutely no challenge, I don't think I've ever had this much fun. Just seeing the mistakes that are made by the players is incredible. It seems in most sports games, the teams play basically the same and you don't really see that many errors. When playing these teams, passes are off, shots are off, players lose the ball on the dribble. But they realize that Eto'o is pretty much all I've got, and whenever he gets the ball there are 3 guys waiting there. It's pretty cool, and something I didn't see when going through qualifying with the US or Netherlands.

Mizzou B-ball fan

06-10-2010, 07:35 AM

More zombie hordes coming to the PSN. Top down shooter.

Dead Nation to be Shown at E3 « PS3 Blog and Community | PS3Blog.net (http://www.ps3blog.net/2010/06/09/dead-nation-to-be-shown-at-e3/)

MJ4H

06-11-2010, 04:32 PM

Nintendo 3DS details leaked:

http://kotaku.com/5561086/ (http://www.wiinintendo.net/2010/06/11/nintendo-3ds-3ds-details-show-up-on-chinese-blog-site/)

SackAttack

06-11-2010, 04:44 PM

I wonder if the "significantly more powerful than current handhelds" refers to Nintendo or Nintendo/Sony both.

I mean, the PSP was basically already a portable PS2 with gimped controls.

Mizzou B-ball fan

06-14-2010, 09:39 AM

Lots of new stuff from E3. 360 Slim advertising banner may have been accidentally posted...........

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=398159

30 minutes of Move controller in action.......

Dailymotion - Sony Move im Vorab-Praxistest - ein Videospiele Video (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xdnb7t_sony-move-im-vorab-praxistest_videogames)

Some feedback on SOCOM 4 Move controls from the private media event........

New previews from Sony's Private Move Event - NeoGAF (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=398222)

MS new motion control finally has a name......Kinect. Ton of articles with impressions over at NeoGaf.......

Natal = Kinect. E3 event of Cirque du Waggle, Space Ponchos and KINECTIMALS - NeoGAF (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=398172)

Mizzou B-ball fan

06-14-2010, 12:49 PM

No game chatter about the ongoing Microsoft E3 press conference?

SackAttack

06-14-2010, 12:56 PM

I, uh, just woke up. Cut me some slack, Jack.

SackAttack

06-14-2010, 01:15 PM

Good god. Don't ever let an engineer near the microphone again, please.

SackAttack

06-14-2010, 01:22 PM

Ooh. ESPN on Xbox 360 at no cost to Gold members. I have wood.

cartman

06-14-2010, 01:44 PM

Ooh. ESPN on Xbox 360 at no cost to Gold members. I have wood.

Yeah, this sounds pretty sweet.

SackAttack

06-14-2010, 01:56 PM

Yeah. The only thing that comes to mind on that now is that they said "at no additional cost to Gold members," but they didn't mention whether the cost of a Gold subscription is gonna go up.

DeToxRox

06-14-2010, 01:59 PM

Wow, the new 360 looks sick. 250 GB HD, built in wifi 802.11n. Smaller, quieter, and still just $299.

It's being shipped to retailers today, available in stores later this week.

SackAttack

06-14-2010, 02:01 PM

And the crowd of journalists and celebs invited to the press conference get a payoff for sitting through two hours of Kinect drudgery. Heh.

MJ4H

06-14-2010, 02:05 PM

Wow, the new 360 looks sick. 250 GB HD, built in wifi 802.11n. Smaller, quieter, and still just $299.

It's being shipped to retailers today, available in stores later this week.

Wow that does sound good. How long do you get to play on this one before it has to replaced?

SackAttack

06-14-2010, 02:08 PM

Wow that does sound good. How long do you get to play on this one before it has to replaced?

It looks like there are bigger vents on the sides, and the fact that they've shrunk it down suggests they've reduced the size (and thus the power footprint) of the internal chipset.

I'd guess that we just aren't going to see much in the way of overheating issues on the new model. Which isn't to say it won't have issues of its own, but they likely won't be related to overheating.

cartman

06-14-2010, 02:27 PM

It looks like the ESPN thing is only available through certain broadband providers. That sucks.

spleen1015

06-14-2010, 02:30 PM

What do I get out of ESPN on the 360 that I don't already get with cable?

SackAttack

06-14-2010, 02:35 PM

It looks like the ESPN thing is only available through certain broadband providers. That sucks.

ESPN3 is the same way. I guess the internet provider subsidizes the cost, which is why people with an approved provider can watch streaming ESPN online with their PCs.

Time Warner is not so approved, though, so I can't use that. If it's the same list of providers with ESPN on the Xbox 360, that will definitely blow. But at least if it's going to be subsidized the same way as ESPN3, that suggests no increase in Gold costs.

cartman

06-14-2010, 02:37 PM

It basically is ESPN3 on the 360. There is info about it already on the Dashboard.

spleen1015

06-14-2010, 02:41 PM

That's interesting then.

MJ4H

06-14-2010, 02:48 PM

It looks like there are bigger vents on the sides, and the fact that they've shrunk it down suggests they've reduced the size (and thus the power footprint) of the internal chipset.

I'd guess that we just aren't going to see much in the way of overheating issues on the new model. Which isn't to say it won't have issues of its own, but they likely won't be related to overheating.

I know my question sounded snarky, but it was completely serious. I am definitely interested in a 360 if the damn things will ever work. I refuse to be subjected to the current hassle. Only reason I've ever even considered a PS3 over a 360 is this. If it is solved, I'm on board.

RainMaker

06-14-2010, 03:09 PM

If it's ESPN3 for the 360 than consider me extremely excited.

And knock it all you want, I'm buying a Kinect on day one. That thing looks really fun.

k0ruptr

06-14-2010, 03:13 PM

Im so fucking happy! finally finally I'll have access to espn3!!! This is fkn awesome for the people that didnt ever get it due to there isp. woot

RainMaker

06-14-2010, 03:14 PM

Im so fucking happy! finally finally I'll have access to espn3!!! This is fkn awesome for the people that didnt ever get it due to there isp. woot
It's still ISP based. I'm guessing if you don't get it now, you probably won't get it on the 360.

cartman

06-14-2010, 03:15 PM

I know my question sounded snarky, but it was completely serious. I am definitely interested in a 360 if the damn things will ever work. I refuse to be subjected to the current hassle. Only reason I've ever even considered a PS3 over a 360 is this. If it is solved, I'm on board.

Since the Falcon chip set came out almost two years ago, the RRODs have come down in number drastically from the plagued launch models. This new hardware rev should reduce the number of failures even more, since it is a point of emphasis in the design.

k0ruptr

06-14-2010, 03:16 PM

everything I've read said it ISNT dependant on broadband providers like espn3 was. it sounds like as long as you have broadband + xbox live gold you get it.

k0ruptr

06-14-2010, 03:17 PM

It's still ISP based. I'm guessing if you don't get it now, you probably won't get it on the 360.

where did you read this?

cartman

06-14-2010, 03:18 PM

where did you read this?

It is on the info screen about it on the XBox Dashboard.

k0ruptr

06-14-2010, 03:19 PM

FML your right, well fuck it waste of time then.

k0ruptr

06-14-2010, 03:20 PM

I guess its good for people that only used to use it on computers and now they can hook it up to their HDTV?

SackAttack

06-14-2010, 03:29 PM

Looks like they did move to a 45nm chipset for the CPU and GPU, so yeah, that'll help with the heat issues. Same with the smaller power supply.

SackAttack

06-14-2010, 03:42 PM

Wow, the new 360 looks sick. 250 GB HD, built in wifi 802.11n. Smaller, quieter, and still just $299.

It's being shipped to retailers today, available in stores later this week.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4027/4700188445_cab38bb471_o.jpg

Offhand, I see that the ethernet port is still there (people have been IMing me all morning asking about that, and all I've been able to do 'til now is shrug).

Three USB ports in back, two in front, and the fiber-optic port has been moved from the proprietary HDMI cable to the back of the system, à la PS3.

About the only thing I haven't heard yet as far as influencing my decision to get one is whether the hard drive is standard SATA, or if it will still be proprietary in some way.

MJ4H

06-14-2010, 04:57 PM

Goldeneye 007 Wii announced!

Goldeneye 007 Wii announced! | WiiNintendo (http://www.wiinintendo.net/2010/06/14/goldeneye-007-wii-announced/)

Also: this is board is fucking slow today.

DeToxRox

06-14-2010, 06:17 PM

EA MMA Game announced to have this gem:

EA Sports Live Broadcast debuting in EA Sports MMA. Spectator mode!!! Not only from the console but people can spectate fights from the web!

k0ruptr

06-14-2010, 06:51 PM

EA MMA Game announced to have this gem:

EA Sports Live Broadcast debuting in EA Sports MMA. Spectator mode!!! Not only from the console but people can spectate fights from the web!

really neat feature... great for leagues and dynastys. Would be awesome to have this in the Maddens and NCAAs.

ColtCrazy

06-14-2010, 07:20 PM

I'm really regretting not pushing the wife to put a gaming card in her laptop. It's not powerful enough for Civ IV, but it has Windows 7 and it's apparently a pain to try to get Civ 2 to run on it. Any suggestions for a good strategy game that's not too taxing graphically?

SackAttack

06-14-2010, 08:10 PM

Hard drive is proprietary. Sigh. I guess it's too much to expect that Microsoft could announce a hardware revision in the current generation without fucking SOMETHING up.

sterlingice

06-14-2010, 11:22 PM

A couple of good Nintendo notes that caught my eye

http://ds.ign.com/articles/109/1095753p1.html
Super Scribblenauts fixed the control issues from Scribblenauts, added adjectives, and has levels with multiple objectives now. I'm definitely game all over again.

http://wii.ign.com/articles/109/1090959p1.html
I am definitely getting more excited about NBA Jam for the Wii. Play control similar to before, except the shove has a counter move. Boss fights sound interesting, it sounds like you might be able to play with the teams of old (I'd love the TE teams, too, if possible), and online play is still up in the air.

SI

sterlingice

06-15-2010, 11:02 AM

Nintendo conference starting with Reggie

SI

sterlingice

06-15-2010, 11:11 AM

Shigeru demo'ing newly announced Zelda: Skyward Sword for Wii. Uses Wii Motion Plus and Nunchuck for sword and shield in pretty natural looking motion. It looks to play just like the sword fighting in Wii Sports Resort

SI

sterlingice

06-15-2010, 11:28 AM

A couple of new party-looking games are next with Mario Sports Mix and Wii Party. Mario Sports Mix looks like they crammed some lesser Mario Sports games together in one platform. Wii Party looks like Mario Party but with Miis.

Then there was something from Ubi called Just Dance 2.

SI

Eaglesfan27

06-15-2010, 11:28 AM

Wow, the new 360 looks sick. 250 GB HD, built in wifi 802.11n. Smaller, quieter, and still just $299.

It's being shipped to retailers today, available in stores later this week.

Since I have an n network (and because of the other upgrades), I'm seriously contemplating the idea of trading in my old 360 for an upgrade. I never thought I'd do that with any console.

sterlingice

06-15-2010, 11:36 AM

Finally, Golden Sun for the DS details. It's about damn time.

Goldeneye 007 for the Wii gets a pretty raucous ovation from the crowd

Epic Mickey finally gets fleshed out a bit. To me, feels like it still has a vague Kingdom Hearts vibe.

All three are Nintendo exclusives and coming out for Christmas this year.

SI

sterlingice

06-15-2010, 11:51 AM

New Kirby game for the Wii: Epic Yarn this fall. I dunno- looks like they're trying to hit the female market with this one. I know my wife loves Kirby but I feel he gets the short end of the stick from time to time. Kirby games get a lot of experimental control and testing- they're starting to feel like a tech demo. Whenever there's an off the wall mechanic or peripheral to test, slap the Kirby label on it and try it out.

Then stuff we already knew about. Dragon Quest 9 finally coming to the DS at the end of the month. Metroid Other M coming in August.

Retro with a new Donkey Kong Country.

Closing with 3DS

SI

sterlingice

06-15-2010, 12:04 PM

Holy crap- there actually is a Kid Icarus! That was becoming a joke along the lines of Duke Nukem Forever as they had been talking about it since the early Gamecube days. It's the launch game for the 3DS

Also, I need to see the specs for the Nintendo 3DS.

SI

sterlingice

06-15-2010, 12:09 PM

Launch(?) games for the N3DS: Nintendogs + Cats, a Kingdom Hearts entry, a Resident Evil entry, and a Metal Gear Solid entry.

SI

CleBrownsfan

06-15-2010, 12:32 PM

I just don't get the attractiveness of Nintendo or DS - am I in the minority here?

MikeVic

06-15-2010, 12:35 PM

I just don't get the attractiveness of Nintendo or DS - am I in the minority here?

Judging by sales, yes. And I love my DS. Sold the Wii for a PS3 though.

sterlingice

06-15-2010, 12:40 PM

I just don't get the attractiveness of Nintendo or DS - am I in the minority here?

Probably not here on FOFC but in the market in general, a little. It all comes down to what you look for in games. At the end of the day, the DS is on pace to topple the PS2 as the best selling console ever but that may not happen if they cannibalize those sales with the NDS (essentially shortening the console's lifespan).

SI

sterlingice

06-15-2010, 12:46 PM

To give a sense of scale- quick article I just dug up:
Life-to-date hardware sales as of the end of 2009 (http://www.examiner.com/x-6894-Video-Game-News-Examiner~y2010m2d4-Lifetodate-hardware-sales-as-of-the-end-of-2009)

Playstation 2 (2000) - 145.7 million
Nintendo DS (2004) - 125.13 million
Nintendo Wii (2006) - 67.45 million
PSP (2004) - 63.0 million
Xbox 360 (2005) - 38.7 million
Playstation 3 (2006) - 33.5 million

SI

Mizzou B-ball fan

06-15-2010, 12:50 PM

I just don't get the attractiveness of Nintendo or DS - am I in the minority here?

It's a really great console for kids and girls/women. I bought a used DSLite for my three year old daughter and she plays it all the time.

I think the long battery life is also a big plus to the general gaming market. Really nice to have on long trips.

sterlingice

06-15-2010, 12:52 PM

It's a really great console for kids and girls/women. I bought a used DSLite for my three year old daughter and she plays it all the time.

^^ Behold, the master of backhanded compliments at work (clearly, becoming either the #1 or #2 best selling console ever has been achieved selling only to little girls)

Anyways- anyone else catch any more details about what Iwata was talking about for online play for the 3DS? They talked about the silly tag mode on the Nintendo website but they aren't talking about online play.

SI

dawgfan

06-15-2010, 12:59 PM

I just don't get the attractiveness of Nintendo or DS - am I in the minority here?
The Wii was fun for a little while, but I haven't played it in quite a while. I don't regret buying it - I certainly got my money's worth of entertainment out of it - but for console gaming I'm far more interested in 360 and PS3 games.

The DS on the other hand is consistently fun - it's a great platform for smaller-scale games that you can play on the go. My DS is one of the main ways I kill time on airplanes and airports.

Mizzou B-ball fan

06-15-2010, 12:59 PM

^^ Behold, the master of backhanded compliments at work

What the hell????? I compliment what is easily the best handheld on the market noting why it sells so well and it's a backhanded compliment?

While the over-sensitive Nintendo fans may think that it's somehow a problem that women and girls like the DS, Nintendo is laughing all the way to the bank with a handheld and a console that both owe their huge sales to their wide appeal to all gamers, not just the core audience. My daughter will tell you it's 'awesome'. I certainly don't disagree.

cartman

06-15-2010, 01:23 PM

What the hell????? I compliment what is easily the best handheld on the market noting why it sells so well and it's a backhanded compliment?

While the over-sensitive Nintendo fans may think that it's somehow a problem that women and girls like the DS, Nintendo is laughing all the way to the bank with a handheld and a console that both owe their huge sales to their wide appeal to all gamers, not just the core audience. My daughter will tell you it's 'awesome'. I certainly don't disagree.

Oh boy, here comes the persecution complex again. You qualified your original praise as "It's a really great console for kids and girls/women."

You are on a pathetic roll today.

Mizzou B-ball fan

06-15-2010, 01:28 PM

Oh boy, here comes the persecution complex again. You qualified your original praise as "It's a really great console for kids and girls/women."

You are on a pathetic roll today.

That's a huge base for that console. Look around you the next time you're on a plane with kids around. You'll find kids playing a DS everywhere and most of them are female. In case you haven't noticed, 50% of the consumer base in our country is female. It's about time a company addressed the whole market and got it right, whether overly-sensitive core gamers like you and SI want to admit it or not. It's just another console if it appeals to the core gamer. As a wide-reaching console, it becomes the best handheld ever created.

Tigercat

06-15-2010, 01:31 PM

I think some of us are overly sensitive on what MBBF says. I would argue that it certainly is the non hardcore gamers, kids and women being a big part of that, that fuels both the Wii and DS markets to push them above their competitors. I like to think I have a diverse group of friends, most of whom are gamers, and not a single female I know owns a PSP. The DS, on the other hand...

CleBrownsfan

06-15-2010, 01:38 PM

I guess it comes down to an individual. I just don't get the whole hand held gaming thing. I would never buy a hand held system as I would rather read a book/magazine if I'm in a place that would make since to play DS/PSP. Why would I want to play a game on a 5 inch screen when I have a 50 inch HDTV at home? Of course these are just my opinions...

SackAttack

06-15-2010, 01:38 PM

The issue is the qualifier, I think. It's not always what he says, but how he says it.

The way he phrased that comment implied that the unspoken part was "but no guy would be caught dead playing it."

As opposed to, you know, Wii having done a phenomenal job of bringing girls and women into a marketplace that historically they have not been a significant percentage of. Something like 55% of Wii/DS owners are female. That's not hyperbole. That's science.

But that also means that 45% of Wii/DS primary players are guys, and that's not an insignificant percentage. Especially when you consider the hojillions of Wii/DS units that Nintendo have sold in the last several years.

Mizzou B-ball fan

06-15-2010, 01:41 PM

Tigercat

06-15-2010, 01:42 PM

I did notice the ability to lactate whenever I held a DS, I just chalked it up to coincidence.

spleen1015

06-15-2010, 01:43 PM

I did notice the ability to lactate whenever I held a DS, I just chalked it up to coincidence.

You too?!

SackAttack

06-15-2010, 01:51 PM

I own two Nintendo DS units and my PSP has been collecting dust for over a year. I probably play my DS more than the people complaining here.

I don't play either one much. The PSP ends up getting used for airline travel since I can watch videos on it rather than crane my neck trying to see the in-flight (or, worse, getting no in-flight at all).

The DS...some games I really enjoy, but the ones that they force stylus control on me I end up just not playing. That was a gimmick I never cared for.

Mizzou B-ball fan

06-15-2010, 01:59 PM

I don't play either one much. The PSP ends up getting used for airline travel since I can watch videos on it rather than crane my neck trying to see the in-flight (or, worse, getting no in-flight at all).

The DS...some games I really enjoy, but the ones that they force stylus control on me I end up just not playing. That was a gimmick I never cared for.

I'm a big fan of the classic RPG style games on the DS. They usually have less stylus action as well, which I like.

SackAttack

06-15-2010, 02:16 PM

I repeat, dear Sony: if you have time to add Move and 3D functionality to MLB 10, you have time to FIX THE LEGACY BROKEN SHIT.

sterlingice

06-15-2010, 02:19 PM

{snark}Haha. 3D Glasses. How quaint.{/snark}

It's never been a series I'm huge on, but GT5 looks absolutely gorgeous.

Sly collection, I'm curious about.

SI

Chubby

06-15-2010, 02:21 PM

How was the Solecismic booth at E3?

spleen1015

06-15-2010, 02:39 PM

How was the Solecismic booth at E3?

It was awesome! They announced their new dice game, Kismet!

SackAttack

06-15-2010, 02:40 PM

"Heroes on the Move" = okay, Sony, now you have my attention.

JonInMiddleGA

06-15-2010, 02:42 PM

I did notice the ability to lactate whenever I held a DS, I just chalked it up to coincidence.

What about signs of monthly moodiness?

Kodos

06-15-2010, 02:47 PM

I like to think I have a diverse group of friends, most of whom are gamers, and not a single female I know owns a PSP. The DS, on the other hand...

I know of a female who has a PSP - I gave mine to my niece a while ago because the small screen hurts my old man eyes. :)

Tigercat

06-15-2010, 02:55 PM

What about signs of monthly moodiness?

I get that already when I look at my paycheck.

terpkristin

06-15-2010, 03:12 PM

Man, nothing interesting today (or yesterday for that matter, except that the new 360 is pretty). NO interest in motion control systems, I loathe most of the motion control games on the Wii and the stylus-controlled games on the DS. Even less interest in 3D crap, even if it doesn't require special glasses. Only thing I want to know is if the "analog nub" on the 3DS works as poorly as the one on the PSP does.

I love my DS and I'll admit I even like my PSP, and my 360 gets the most play time of my consoles (I have PS3, Wii, and 360). But I don't think I'll be running out to get anything recently announced right when it comes out, especially not Natal, PS Motion, or the 3DS.

Edit: I take that back. Golden Sun could be interesting, depending on how it's done. I hate forced stylus use (or Wiimote use), which is why the Zelda franchise is all but dead to me.

/tk

terpkristin

06-15-2010, 03:14 PM

I like to think I have a diverse group of friends, most of whom are gamers, and not a single female I know owns a PSP. The DS, on the other hand...

Not that you know me personally, but I actually own 2 PSP's. And 1 DS. And I don't play the PSP as often as the DS because the battery life on the PSP is crapola. And I like the RPGs on the DS better (Pokemon games, remakes of Final Fantasy III and IV, ChronoTrigger and Dragon Quest remakes, Etrian Odyssey games, the new Dragon Quest game, etc etc)

/tk

SackAttack

06-15-2010, 03:17 PM

PlayStation Plus, $49.99/year. It sounded like the rumored free PSN game each month is going to be part of that.

SackAttack

06-15-2010, 03:19 PM

Couple of people are saying they heard "duration of subscription" in there, which somehow slipped past me. So that starts to make it sound like $50/year for the PS3 equivalent of GameTap.

terpkristin

06-15-2010, 03:20 PM

So what does $50/year give you for PS Plus? Since I assume that the current structure of PSN will remain free?

/tk

Tigercat

06-15-2010, 03:21 PM

Not that you know me personally, but I actually own 2 PSP's. And 1 DS. And I don't play the PSP as often as the DS because the battery life on the PSP is crapola. And I like the RPGs on the DS better (Pokemon games, remakes of Final Fantasy III and IV, ChronoTrigger and Dragon Quest remakes, Etrian Odyssey games, the new Dragon Quest game, etc etc)

/tk

Most of my female friends aren't above casual gamers unfortunately. A group of them spend way too much time competing on one of the Harvest Moon DS games. If its not cute or fun to play while drunk they probably would ignore it.

SackAttack

06-15-2010, 03:22 PM

So what does $50/year give you for PS Plus? Since I assume that the current structure of PSN will remain free?

/tk

Sounds like access to betas, various bits of content - full PSN games, probably smaller DLC, etc.

They'll also push "demos and firmware updates" to the console.

But what concerns me is the whole "yours for the duration of the subscription" bit.

SackAttack

06-15-2010, 03:40 PM

11/2/10 release date on Gran Turismo 5.

Anybody up for a pool as to whether or not they'll meet that?

Kodos

06-15-2010, 03:44 PM

11/2/10 release date on Gran Turismo 5.

Anybody up for a pool as to whether or not they'll meet that?

If the programmers are like the cars in that game, they will work at a certain pace without regard to thoughts of winning or meeting their completion date. They are just out for a drive, and care not about the racing aspect of the game. They don't care if other developers pass them or not.

DataKing

06-15-2010, 03:44 PM

11/2/10 release date on Gran Turismo 5.

Anybody up for a pool as to whether or not they'll meet that?

I'm thinking maybe 6:1 against.

Edit: Although they were advertising it heavily at the 24 Hours of Le Mans this past weekend, so apparently at least the Sony marketing folks are under the impression it will be out relatively soon.

MJ4H

06-15-2010, 03:51 PM

Holy shit I just watched the Nintendo conference on DVR. I will have the 3DS on launch day. Wife is already interested, that sold me.

So, lol at the Zelda presentation. I cringed all the way through that. I'm sure it's awesome, but the demo was laughable. I mean, it was plagued with everything I hate about motion controls. From not recognizing motions sometimes to detecting them when you aren't doing anything at all to doing something completely different than you want it to and even doing things that you want just significantly lagged. Fuck. As the demo went on, I think it became clear that there was something effing up the communication between the controller and system, but man that was fucking painful to watch. Aside from that, I liked what I saw.

Mario Sports Mix could be complete crap or complete awesome. No way to know yet.

Kid Icarus. I nearly orgasmed. That's about all I can say. I probably would have if it would've been in 3D when it was revealed. Fuck yes.

GOLDENEYE OH HELL YES.
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btw FUCKING METAL GEAR

MJ4H

06-15-2010, 04:02 PM

3DS First and Third-Party Upcoming Game List From Nintendo Press Site

Activision Publishing, Inc.
DJ Hero® 3D

AQ INTERACTIVE
cubic ninja

ATLUS
Etrian Odyssey
Shin Megami Tensei
Shin Megami Tensei: Persona
Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor

Capcom
RESIDENT EVIL® REVELATIONS
SUPER STREET FIGHTER IV 3D Edition (name not final)

Electronic Arts
FIFA Soccer
Madden NFL
The Sims™ 3
Gameloft
Asphalt GT

Harmonix
Music game

HUDSON SOFT
Bomberman franchise
DECA SPORTS franchise
KORORINPA franchise

KONAMI
Baseball franchise
Contra franchise
Frogger franchise
HIDEO KOJIMA’S METAL GEAR SOLID SNAKE EATER 3D
“The Naked Sample”
PRO EVOLUTION SOCCER franchise /
WINNING ELEVEN franchise

LEVEL-5
Professor Layton and the Mask of Miracle (name not final)

Majesco Entertainment
BloodRayne: The Shroud
A Boy and His Blob
Face Racers: Photo Finish
Lion’s Pride: Adventures on the Serengeti
Martha Stewart
WonderWorld Amusement Park
Marvelous Entertainment
BOKUJYOUMONOGATARI 3D (name not final)

NAMCO BANDAI Games
Dragon Ball® franchise (name not final)
Gundam® franchise (name not final)
PAC-MAN™ & GALAGA™ (name not final)
RIDGE RACER® (name not final)
Super Robot franchise (name not final)

Nintendo
Animal Crossing™
Kid Icarus™: Uprising
Mario Kart™
nintendogs™ + cats
Paper Mario™
PilotWings Resort™
Star Fox 64™ 3D
Steel Diver™
ROCKET
Crash-City GP
VS-robo

SEGA
Sonic (name not final)
Super Monkey Ball (name not final)

SQUARE ENIX
CODENAME: Chocobo Racing® 3D
DRAGON QUEST® franchise
FINAL FANTASY® franchise
KINGDOM HEARTS franchise

Take-Two Interactive
Carnival Games® franchise

TECMO KOEI GAMES
DEAD OR ALIVE® 3D (name not final)

Honolulu_Blue

06-15-2010, 04:13 PM

Man, nothing interesting today (or yesterday for that matter, except that the new 360 is pretty). NO interest in motion control systems, I loathe most of the motion control games on the Wii and the stylus-controlled games on the DS.

/tk

I agree about motion control systems. No interest at all. 90% of the time I am playing some game on a console, I am drinking beer. Usually it's a lot of beer. Nothing good will come of the mixture of lots of beer and me playing a motion control system.

The new Xbox 360 does look nice. I like the features too. The Xbox 360 that I've had for the last 3 years is actually a friend's spare he bought during a RROD crisis. If I ever need to pony up and get my own, this is definitely the one I will get. Good storage, DMI cable output, built in wireless...

As for gaming news. I am not too concerned. My immediate gaming future is pretty much set with the upcoming releases of Starcraft 2, Elemental: War of Magic, Civ V, and Fallout: New Vegas all coming in the next 3-4 months.

Big Fo

06-15-2010, 08:14 PM

I hope the Konami baseball game in that list of future 3DS games is from the Power Pros series.

I wonder what the Dragon Quest game will be, a spinoff like Rocket Slime or the Monsters series, a remake (DQ7?), or maybe they switched DQ10 from Wii to 3DS after DQ9 sold like five million copies on DS in Japan alone.

I'll be getting a 3DS near launch if the price is reasonable (which I'm concerned about with the pricing of the DSi and DSi XL), floor impressions have been very positive and it looks like there will be a lot of good, early third-party support in addition to Nintendo's stuff.

Hopefully the new Twisted Metal game rocks, I loved the first two on PS1.

sterlingice

06-15-2010, 08:20 PM

I'm very curious about the 3DS. Hell, I just want to see it. You just can't see how it looks on a 2D screen. I want to see if it delivers.

SI

Atocep

06-16-2010, 12:22 AM

Mizzou B-ball fan

06-16-2010, 07:14 AM

Really happy to see the Playstation Plus include a game a month. That's the tipping point for me. I have to feel like I'm getting my money's worth in some way.

Didn't see any mention in the thread of the new Twisted Metal game. Really looked like a lot of good mindless fun. Loved the old games and this one looks just as high-paced.

Will have to dust off the old Force Feedback wheel now that we're FINALLY in the home stretch on Gran Turismo 5. It looks fantastic.

And in case you all missed the Kevin Butler speech, he got a room full of geeks all riled up with his 'speech'. Pretty funny.........

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Mizzou B-ball fan

06-16-2010, 07:39 AM

And the crowd of journalists and celebs invited to the press conference get a payoff for sitting through two hours of Kinect drudgery. Heh.

I didn't see much mentioned about this. I think this is a pretty low point for gaming journalism. I'd hate to see E3 become a situation where companies start to 'buy off' journalists with giveaways of this size. I think a much better option would have been to offer each group in attendance a new 360 to give away to their users or just to give a couple hundred of the new machines to a charity like Child's Play. This seems to take things in a direction that may trigger further modifications to the law related to gaming journalist hand-outs.

cartman

06-16-2010, 08:16 AM

I didn't see much mentioned about this. I think this is a pretty low point for gaming journalism. I'd hate to see E3 become a situation where companies start to 'buy off' journalists with giveaways of this size. I think a much better option would have been to offer each group in attendance a new 360 to give away to their users or just to give a couple hundred of the new machines to a charity like Child's Play. This seems to take things in a direction that may trigger further modifications to the law related to gaming journalist hand-outs.

lol

sterlingice

06-16-2010, 08:34 AM

I think it's an awfully expensive handout and not a great precedent. Then again, as I joked with Josh: "As long as anyone in there has reviewed more than, say, 5 games, they've had to replace their 360 so maybe Microsoft figured they owed them one" ;)

Usually the handout is some sort of game demo or something like that but I suppose if you want to generate buzz, that's definitely one way to do it.

SI

sterlingice

06-16-2010, 08:35 AM

Speaking of Microsoft, who is their human mascot? Nintendo has Reggie. Sony has Kevin Butler. So who is Microsoft's?

SI

Mizzou B-ball fan

06-16-2010, 08:46 AM

Speaking of Microsoft, who is their human mascot? Nintendo has Reggie. Sony has Kevin Butler. So who is Microsoft's?

SI

Looks like Sony is launching a spin off of the Kevin Butler character as well to pimp the PSP line..........

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sterlingice

06-16-2010, 08:47 AM

I didn't Nintendo's conference wasn't very good this year. The 3DS looked cool and grabbed my attention, but the rest of the show was unimpressive. The Zelda demo was a disaster.

I thought Microsoft's was solid. Haven't watched Sony's yet.

Kevin Butler is his usual funny self. There are some pretty games but you won't get the full effect because you don't have 3D on your computer and a lot of the presentation was in 3D. Gears of War- well, I'm not into FPSs, but I found it to look... well, just like any other. Gran Turismo looks really pretty. Sly collection and Heroes on the Move I'm curious about because Sony's top platformers are usually very good and don't seem to get enough love. Little Big Planet 2 looks to improve on an already good formula. Gabe Newell comes out and does a little self deprecating humor (I loved his line about Butler being the "VP of sharpening objects" or something like that) before showing Portal 2 coming to PS3. And they end with Twisted Metal, which is solid and a long time coming :)

SI

sterlingice

06-16-2010, 09:02 AM

Looks like Sony is launching a spin off of the Kevin Butler character as well to pimp the PSP line..........

I saw the first ad on during either The Daily Show or Colbert last night. It was a pretty strong shot against Apple. Since I doubt Nintendo will go get their hands dirty like that, I'm happy to see Sony do it.

SI

MJ4H

06-16-2010, 09:55 AM

I feel like this is the year that Nintendo is finally making all the games we wished they had been making the past 3 years.

Miyamoto: “We are very hard at work on Pikmin” (http://www.wiinintendo.net/2010/06/15/miyamoto-pikmin/)

Filed under: E3 2010 (http://www.wiinintendo.net/category/e3-2010/), News (http://www.wiinintendo.net/category/news/) — DarkWish @ 10:12 pm
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After the absence of Pikmin 3 today from Nintendo, someone asked Miyamoto for a status update at the Developers Roundtable. According to him, Pikmin 3 was not brought to E3 because he didn’t want it to be a distraction for other games. However, he did say that “Rest assured, though, we are very hard at work on Pikmin.” Hopefully it’s not too long before we get some information on the game.

sterlingice

06-16-2010, 11:02 AM

Yeah- I don't know about the proverbial Megaton, per se, but Nintendo sure has quantity that we haven't seen in years. I mean, they've had to sneak in stuff that would normally be a big deal. For instance, with the 3DS, there's Star Fox 3DS, Paper Mario 3DS, and Ocarina of Time 3DS all confirmed on the floor but no mention in the press conference.

SI

MJ4H

06-16-2010, 11:06 AM

Two years ago, Animal Crossing City Folk was one of the featured games in the conference. Animal Crossing 3DS is in development and no mention at all. There seem to be lots of examples of this. Looks like this will be a fantastic year for Nintendo fans.

sterlingice

06-16-2010, 11:20 AM

Thing is- I think the 3DS is at least next summer, if not next fall/Christmas for release. I'm not sure how many of these things will be ready for this year. The big confirmed games for this year for the Wii are NBA Jam, Wii Party, Kirby, Epic Mickey, Donkey Kong Country, Goldeneye, and Metroid Other M. Zelda and Mario Sports Mix are 2011. For the DS, it's Golden Sun, Dragon Quest 9, and Super Scribblenauts but that's pretty much it as I think they're going to be doing one last big hurrah before the 3DS. That said, if you're a Nintendo fan, it's a fun time. Some of these may not get the press of some of the other announcements for other games but, man, if you're a Nintendo fan- that's a lot of stuff that's right up your alley :D

SI

MJ4H

06-16-2010, 11:22 AM

NBA Jam, Wii Party, Kirby, Epic Mickey, Donkey Kong Country, Goldeneye, and Metroid Other M. Zelda and Mario Sports Mix are 2011. For the DS, it's Golden Sun, Dragon Quest 9, and Super Scribblenauts but that's pretty much it

SI

lol

and hey, I didn't mean the next EXACTLY ONE YEAR FROM (looks at watch) **NOW**

:)

sterlingice

06-16-2010, 11:44 AM

How about.... *NOW*? :D

Don't get me wrong- those three alone will keep me busy for a long time but I realize they're not for everyone.

The Wii, well- that's a pretty darn good lineup coming down the pipes and they've needed that for a year or so now.

SI

MJ4H

06-16-2010, 11:59 AM

Hell, I might even buy a 360 soon, too.

cartman

06-16-2010, 12:43 PM

Here's some footage of the Rock Band 3 real guitar controller in action. This should quiet some of the "it's not a real instrument" criticism of the game. (some NSFW language in the vid)

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sterlingice

06-16-2010, 12:46 PM

I'm curious about that, particularly the pricing, how good the tutorials are, and if it works for the Wii.

SI

DataKing

06-16-2010, 12:49 PM

Gimme.

MJ4H

06-16-2010, 12:49 PM

Yeah Rock Band 3 = MIND BLOWN

Chubby

06-16-2010, 01:08 PM

drool

MJ4H

06-16-2010, 02:26 PM

NBA Jam Wii looks so sweet

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SackAttack

06-16-2010, 02:30 PM

Welp guess I'm upgrading all my Rock Band instruments.

sterlingice

06-16-2010, 02:32 PM

Looks like old school NBA Jam only updated 2 generations forward in graphics and some minor tweaks to gameplay. Sign me up! :)

SI

spleen1015

06-16-2010, 02:39 PM

Looks like old school NBA Jam only updated 2 generations forward in graphics and some minor tweaks to gameplay. Sign me up! :)

SI

Yep, looks sweet!

MJ4H

06-16-2010, 02:52 PM

Loving the hybrid 2D/3D gameplay of Metroid, too.

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dawgfan

06-16-2010, 03:09 PM

Groundhog

06-16-2010, 08:37 PM

Just heard that there is going to be a new Shogun: Total War. Best news I've heard in a long time. Takeda 3 filled the void nicely, but it doesn't seem to run in Windows 7... :(

digamma

06-17-2010, 01:04 AM

I went to an E3 party tonight a friend was putting on...some of the buzz (I didn't go to E3 and don't know much about this stuff, I was just seeing a college buddy)...

-3DS was super cool to demo

-New Zelda is fun, but not great.

-Homeland or Heartland (can't remember the name, but the game about Korea invading the US) looks incredible.

-Graphics on NCAA 2011 look awesome.

-The Sprint Evo 4G phone is really good.

-The IGN Video Girl is super hot.

spleen1015

06-17-2010, 05:05 AM

Does anyone know if they are going to have a regular button configuration for the new Zelda? I don't want to play it is the control scheme is all motion. I want to be able to play without all of the motion BS.

Mizzou B-ball fan

06-17-2010, 08:59 AM

Looks like the rumors were true. Kinect priced at $149. I guess we know why MS didn't mention a price point at E3 now.

Kinect priced at GameStop: $149, $399 for Elite bundle -- Engadget (http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/14/xbox-kinect-gets-priced-149/)

This is totally puzzling. Why did MS redesign the 360 without a stabilizer on the disc drive? One of the big complaints behind RROD has been the scratched discs and a stable disc drive like what they have in the PS3 and Wii would have easily solved this problem.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdOjzuJByXg

MJ4H

06-17-2010, 10:41 AM

3DS to Allow the Dumping of Games to Internal Memory

June 17, 2010 at 7:36 PDT – Source: Andriasang (http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2010/06/17/3ds_software_install/)
Discuss it in TalkBack! - 3 Comments (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=31662)
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It looks like you won't have to swap cartridges any more.

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In a move that mimics the Xbox 360's ability to install games to its hard drive, Nikkei is reporting that Nintendo's 3DS system will allow users to copy cartridge-based games to internal memory.
Once a game is "dumped" to the system's memory, it can be launched by selecting it from a menu listing the games stored on the system. Users will no longer have to carry their cartridges with them on the road in order to play multiple games.
Nintendo has yet to discuss this feature, so we'll have to wait and see if there are any caveats.

Mizzou B-ball fan

06-17-2010, 11:16 AM

3DS to Allow the Dumping of Games to Internal Memory

Obviously just a rumor at this point, but I'd definitely upgrade if it had that feature (as long as the price doesn't see a significant increase).

Atocep

06-17-2010, 03:29 PM

Looks like the rumors were true. Kinect priced at $149. I guess we know why MS didn't mention a price point at E3 now.

Not a bad price considering you don't have to buy controllers for it.

tyketime

06-17-2010, 03:38 PM

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SackAttack

06-17-2010, 03:55 PM

Atocep

06-17-2010, 04:32 PM

Gabe Newell comes out and does a little self deprecating humor (I loved his line about Butler being the "VP of sharpening objects" or something like that) before showing Portal 2 coming to PS3.

There's big news with this as well. A version of Steam is apparently coming to the PS3 which means Valve will be able to get it's DLC out for free on PS3s. This means Microsoft won't be able force Valve into charging for it's DLC on their console.

Valve found a way to get what they wanted all along. Free DLC for everyone.

RainMaker

06-17-2010, 06:28 PM

$149 for the Kinect seems fair considering what it opens the system up to do. Especially when you look at what's being charged for other peripherals on the consoles. My guess is that it's down to $99 the following year.

I'll be picking it up and I'm guessing they'll sell a shit-ton of these at that price.

dubb93

06-17-2010, 08:28 PM

Say what you will, but I am absolutely blown away that they are making games that aren't just mini game collections/fitness products for the Kinect considering the damn thing can't be played sitting down. They almost had me hooked right up until that part. I stand on my feet enough at work/doing house and yard work. I really don't need to stand in front of my TV during leisure time.

Mizzou B-ball fan

06-18-2010, 07:14 AM

I'll be picking it up and I'm guessing they'll sell a shit-ton of these at that price.

And I'll be FLOORED if you're correct. The backlash at that price has been negative thus far.

FWIW.......I don't think Sony's option will do any better for the same reason. $100+ is just way too expensive for either option. $150 is borderline insane. These things have Sega CD written all over them.

Big Fo

06-18-2010, 07:22 AM

I was thinking more like 32X than Sega CD, but yeah.

I'm curious what kind of DRM would be in place to keep people from renting games, dumping them to the internal memory, and then returning them. Either some seriously limited memory, or maybe it'd disable the cartridge until after the dump gets deleted from the 3DS.

I share your curiosity. It will be nice not having to bring a few different cases/cards with me whenever I take a trip if this report is true. In a recent interview with Miyamoto he evaded a question on this reported function.

spleen1015

06-18-2010, 07:59 AM

RainMaker

06-18-2010, 08:34 AM

And I'll be FLOORED if you're correct. The backlash at that price has been negative thus far.

FWIW.......I don't think Sony's option will do any better for the same reason. $100+ is just way too expensive for either option. $150 is borderline insane. These things have Sega CD written all over them.
I don't see it being too expensive. People are dishing out over $100 on peripherals that can only be used on one game. I don't see why one that really pushes technology and has more games available would not work.

I think the issue isn't price, but logistics of owning one. That'll be the bigger factor when all is said and done. Along with the quality of games available. Price has not been the issue if the product is good in the video game industry.

cartman

06-18-2010, 08:57 AM

And MBBF has been a regular Amazing Kreshkin will all of his other predictions on this board.

:rolleyes:

Mizzou B-ball fan

06-18-2010, 09:01 AM

I picked up ModNation Racers with Sony Reward points and got it in the mail yesterday.

It is pretty damn neat if you like this style of game. Playing online is pretty easy and quick. The modding is cool, lots of different options for you character and your kart.

Did anyone else pick this up?

Have you played some user created tracks yet? Some great stuff out there that really adds to the game. The creation tool and its ease of use is really something that other developers should look at for ideas.

I was a bit disappointed in the single player career/story mode just because it's not terribly deep, but there is still plenty of gameplay in it.

Mizzou B-ball fan

06-18-2010, 09:02 AM

Really excited about the new physics and damage engines in Gran Turismo 5. Looking very nice.

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Mizzou B-ball fan

06-18-2010, 09:05 AM

And MBBF has been a regular Amazing Kreshkin will all of his other predictions on this board.

:rolleyes:

So do you have an opinion on the motion controllers or are you just trolling?

Kodos

06-18-2010, 09:06 AM

Yeah. It's not like other games have had damage modeling for years, dating back to the previous generation...

Oh, and actual racing!

Mizzou B-ball fan

06-18-2010, 09:12 AM

I don't see it being too expensive. People are dishing out over $100 on peripherals that can only be used on one game. I don't see why one that really pushes technology and has more games available would not work.

I think the issue isn't price, but logistics of owning one. That'll be the bigger factor when all is said and done. Along with the quality of games available. Price has not been the issue if the product is good in the video game industry.

Price has absolutely been an issue. The industry has a long history of accessories that have cost over the $50-60 price range that fail miserably. There was an article in the past that detailed the overwhelming odds against a $60+ accessory having any real commercial success. If I can find it, I'll add it to this thread.

There's no real technology being pushed here. The Sony controller is an updated version of the Wii controller system. Natal is an updated version of what the Playstation Eye was doing a generation ago.

Even the support that the PS3 is providing to add Move functionality to old games won't help its case. People want something new, not just a new way to play something old.

Mizzou B-ball fan

06-18-2010, 09:15 AM

Yeah. It's not like other games have had damage modeling for years, dating back to the previous generation...

Oh, and actual racing!

I don't think you'll find any arguments regarding the damage modeling. The racing AI has also needed some work. It's still a fantastic series. I'm sure this one will do well too. I'm really looking forward to the NASCAR license and what they can do with it.

cartman

06-18-2010, 09:49 AM

So do you have an opinion on the motion controllers or are you just trolling?

On cue, here comes the persecution complex!

Tigercat

06-18-2010, 10:02 AM

On cue, here comes the persecution complex!

Well when you lead off with:

And MBBF has been a regular Amazing Kreshkin will all of his other predictions on this board.

:rolleyes:

After he gives a perfectly reasonable opinion... Seriously, MBBF has made his share of personal biased fueled statements over the years, but you aren't encouraging decent discourse by jumping on the dude when he has a well formulated opinion that you may/may not agree with.

Bottom line for me, developers aren't going to develop enough good games for either accessory to make it a good buy a year from now. Why use the money/time to develop a current/next generation game around these accessories that are not in many homes yet, when you can develop a last generation tech. game on the system that is in most homes that has a similar capability already?

If you have the ability to pick which system to design for to sell your game, it is almost a no brainer.

Edit: And then there is the alternative that some games will just add on mini-games and such to make use of the technology. Which won't make the accessory purchase worth it either.

cartman

06-18-2010, 10:07 AM

He does give opinions, and they have consistently been borne out to be off base. Until that track record changes, it is hard to take them with any reasonable amount of seriousness, and it is amusing that he acts amazed if people don't buy into his observations.

Mizzou B-ball fan

06-18-2010, 10:18 AM

Bottom line for me, developers aren't going to develop enough good games for either accessory to make it a good buy a year from now. Why use the money/time to develop a current/next generation game around these accessories that are not in many homes yet, when you can develop a last generation tech. game on the system that is in most homes that has a similar capability already?

If you have the ability to pick which system to design for to sell your game, it is almost a no brainer.

Edit: And then there is the alternative that some games will just add on mini-games and such to make use of the technology. Which won't make the accessory purchase worth it either.

This.

I expect to see a lot of 'Carnival Games HD' for these accessories. Cheap to make with low risk. And for the big games that are adapted to support these accessories, the functionality will feel 'tacked on', which has been a complaint on some Wii games. I suspect that feeling will be magnified on the HD consoles.

stevew

06-18-2010, 11:28 AM

Gamestop is running b2g1 on used.

RainMaker

06-18-2010, 11:48 AM

Price has absolutely been an issue. The industry has a long history of accessories that have cost over the $50-60 price range that fail miserably. There was an article in the past that detailed the overwhelming odds against a $60+ accessory having any real commercial success. If I can find it, I'll add it to this thread.

There's no real technology being pushed here. The Sony controller is an updated version of the Wii controller system. Natal is an updated version of what the Playstation Eye was doing a generation ago.

Even the support that the PS3 is providing to add Move functionality to old games won't help its case. People want something new, not just a new way to play something old.
I guess I look at Rock Band and Guitar Hero and wonder where this pricing issue comes in. People are willing to pay over $100 for a peripheral for one game.

The Playstation Eye is nothing like the Kinect. The Eye is basically just a webcam. The Kinect is a webcam with an infrared camera that can sense depth. That's like saying the iPhone is just an updated version of some phone Motorola released 5 years ago.

The games that worked with the Eye did nothing close to what the games made for the Kinect are doing. Make the excuse that people won't want to play those kind of games, but saying this isn't something new is plain wrong.

rjolley

06-18-2010, 12:59 PM

Has anyone seen the new 360's in stores or know of any deals on them?

CleBrownsfan

06-18-2010, 01:07 PM

Has anyone seen the new 360's in stores or know of any deals on them?

I want one but don't have one. I'm really thinking about selling my Elite on Craigslist to get it... stay tuned ;)

DataKing

06-18-2010, 01:12 PM

Has anyone seen the new 360's in stores or know of any deals on them?

A buddy of mine took in his current 360 along with a few games/peripherals earlier this week, thinking to get store credit towards one of the new 250gb 360s. He was advised by the person at Gamestop to wait until the new ones actually came in, and it was stated that he would get a better deal then, though he wasn't given any details. This would imply that Gamestop will be running some sort of deal for people looking to upgrade. Unfortunately I don't have any more details just yet on how this works, but when I do hear something more I'll be sure to post it here.

Mizzou B-ball fan

06-18-2010, 01:16 PM

I guess I look at Rock Band and Guitar Hero and wonder where this pricing issue comes in. People are willing to pay over $100 for a peripheral for one game.

The Playstation Eye is nothing like the Kinect. The Eye is basically just a webcam. The Kinect is a webcam with an infrared camera that can sense depth. That's like saying the iPhone is just an updated version of some phone Motorola released 5 years ago.

The games that worked with the Eye did nothing close to what the games made for the Kinect are doing. Make the excuse that people won't want to play those kind of games, but saying this isn't something new is plain wrong.

Rock Band/GH is the exception rather than the rule.

You're incorrect about the camera. You can call it an upgrade (as I did) or an evolution of the PS Eye, but it's certainly nothing new. Adding a third dimension of movement and little else isn't going to create a demand for a $150 accessory.

Mizzou B-ball fan

06-18-2010, 01:18 PM

A buddy of mine took in his current 360 along with a few games/peripherals earlier this week, thinking to get store credit towards one of the new 250gb 360s. He was advised by the person at Gamestop to wait until the new ones actually came in, and it was stated that he would get a better deal then, though he wasn't given any details. This would imply that Gamestop will be running some sort of deal for people looking to upgrade. Unfortunately I don't have any more details just yet on how this works, but when I do hear something more I'll be sure to post it here.

They always run upgrade specials when new models come out. They usually toss an extra $40-50 onto the trade-in price to get you to purchase the new console.

Voo

06-18-2010, 01:38 PM

Has anyone seen the new 360's in stores or know of any deals on them?

I picked one up at my local Best Buy today.

stevew

06-18-2010, 02:52 PM

A buddy of mine took in his current 360 along with a few games/peripherals earlier this week, thinking to get store credit towards one of the new 250gb 360s. He was advised by the person at Gamestop to wait until the new ones actually came in, and it was stated that he would get a better deal then, though he wasn't given any details. This would imply that Gamestop will be running some sort of deal for people looking to upgrade. Unfortunately I don't have any more details just yet on how this works, but when I do hear something more I'll be sure to post it here.

Basically an old 360 with a hard drive, and an ethernet adapter gets you 170 dollars in store credit. details are on gamestop.com.

Basically an upgrade for 130 if you have the ethernet, or 170 if you don't.

rjolley

06-18-2010, 03:49 PM

So they're in stores? Ok, I'll go take a look and use some reward certificates.

Still, would be nice to get a deal with a free game or something...

RainMaker

06-18-2010, 04:52 PM

Rock Band/GH is the exception rather than the rule.

You're incorrect about the camera. You can call it an upgrade (as I did) or an evolution of the PS Eye, but it's certainly nothing new. Adding a third dimension of movement and little else isn't going to create a demand for a $150 accessory.
HDTV isn't an upgrade over SDTV, it just adds some pixels. Adding some pixels and little else isn't going to create a demand for those things.

Atocep

06-19-2010, 12:34 AM

Rock Band/GH is the exception rather than the rule.

Wii fit with balance board?

MJ4H

06-19-2010, 09:59 AM

Whoa. New XCOM game. Trailer shown at 3D. Apparently it is an FPS.

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Mizzou B-ball fan

06-21-2010, 07:28 AM

Well, it's not every day that you see a game based on surfing down the street on an office chair.............

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MJ4H

06-21-2010, 09:41 AM

Honolulu_Blue

06-21-2010, 09:50 AM

Whoa. New XCOM game. Trailer shown at 3D. Apparently it is an FPS.

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The trailer doesn't look too bad and I like the retro setting of the game. That said, it's not XCom. I would be more interested in this game if it wasn't called XCom. It just feels like a complete waste of the IP to slap the name on this game. I am annoyed by it.

Mizzou B-ball fan

06-21-2010, 09:51 AM

Bought Tiger Woods 11 for Wii yesterday. Funny how the two multi-platform games that the Wii kills the PS3 and 360 versions on are both sports games (this and PES). This game is pretty awesome. Anyone play this online?

This game would actually be the big reason that I would consider purchasing the Move controller on the PS3. I could see that as something I would use quite a bit. I'd love to see them come out with a package deal, much like they did on the Wii. It wouldn't surprise me at all if that is already in the works.

DataKing

06-21-2010, 11:17 AM

Well, it's not every day that you see a game based on surfing down the street on an office chair.............

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Reminds me of PAIN.

Mizzou B-ball fan

06-21-2010, 11:21 AM

Reminds me of PAIN.

There was a great game that I think was called 2extreme or something like that on the PS1 that had similar gameplay except with things like street luge. May be the same developers because it has a similar look.......except with office chairs.

k0ruptr

06-21-2010, 04:41 PM

I don't usually get into these things, but I really really think the best thing about Kinect is that there is no controller! If it works just as good as wii/move or better and doesnt have an extra controller on your hand that would be fantastic. After watching that kung fu rider trailer and seeing the Move controller, it just looks dumb. I know it would look dumb without one but I think it would be way cooler for some reason to just be using your hands and body not attached to anything.

terpkristin

06-21-2010, 04:59 PM

I'm still not sold on Kinect, but I'm especially not sold on it if it's truly more pricey than $100. I think in some ways it's like the Wii...everybody liked the idea of it at first, but I'll be the first to say that aside from New Super Mario Bros. Wii, the only time it gets turned on is when I have friends over, and then we ONLY play bowling (Wii Sports Resort version), shuffleboard (on Game Party), or Boom Blox...all games that are good for crowds.

Then again, I also cannot think of games I'd like to play with motion controls. The Zelda franchise is all but dead to me thanks to motion- (Wii) and stylus- (DS) controlled versions that feel gimmicky at best. I'm not into fighting/boxing games, which would shine with this type of control. I've heard that the racing game on the Kinect is OK, but I'm not sure I could see using that, either (Mario Kart with the Wii Wheel feels awkward...). None of my JRPGs or western RPGs is really conducive to motion control. Shooters I'd think you'd want something to point with (i.e. a controller of some sort).

No Kinect for me (or PS Move, either).

/tk

Mizzou B-ball fan

06-22-2010, 07:23 AM

FYI for those who were considering a 360 trade-in for the new model. Here's the info on what you can get. Sounds like you get $50 less if you don't pre-order it.

Trading In To Get The “New” Xbox 360 [Update] | Loot Ninja (http://loot-ninja.com/2010/06/21/trading-in-to-get-the-new-360/)

Also, not terribly surprised at this. We had alreaady talked about how the motion technology likely increases the length of this generation. MS Euro boss say we won't see a new system from them until 2015. I think most consumers will be very pleased with this. I'd love to get 7-8 years out of my system.

No new Xbox until 2015 | News | TechRadar UK (http://www.techradar.com/news/gaming/consoles/xbox-360-lifecycle-to-run-to-2015-697742#ixzz0rUV78HGm)

No new Xbox until 2015
Kinect and new slim console extends 360's lifespan

New Xbox 360 slim and Kinect extends the console's lifecycle to 2015, claims Microsoft exec

If you're waiting on the next Xbox - the XBox 720, perhaps, you've got a bit of a wait. Microsoft says that the new Kinect controller and the forthcoming launch of a new, slimmer Xbox 360 consoles extends the lifespan of the product through to 2015.

While the company is still to confirm pricing and release details on Kinect, which we expect will arrive at GamesCon in Germany this coming August, Microsoft's European boss Chris Lewis has said that the new controller tech extends the format's lifecycle through to 2015.

Xbox 360 is mid-lifecycle

Lewis told GamesIndustry.biz: "I think 2010 will be a very big year for us, it is in many ways for us mid-lifecycle.

"What you've seen is with this new sleek design and Kinect for Xbox 360 we've got at least another five years of this generation where we continue to offer great experiences for people.

"We continue to attach more games than competitive platforms and we have the healthiest ecosystem with 25 million people connected through Xbox Live. So we are uniquely placed to continue to do really, really well in this business and enjoy ongoing momentum."

cartman

06-22-2010, 10:11 AM

The Kinetic, even though it is a pre-order not set to be released for almost 5 months, is currently in the top 3 on Amazon's video games best seller list.

Amazon.com Video Games Bestsellers: The most popular items on Amazon.com. Updated hourly. (http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/videogames/ref=pd_ts_pg_1?ie=UTF8&pg=1)

spleen1015

06-22-2010, 10:25 AM

CleBrownsfan

06-22-2010, 10:46 AM

I just traded in my Elite for the new 360. I'll give impressions once I get this bad boy hooked up. Looks shiny ;)

spleen1015

06-22-2010, 10:54 AM

I just traded in my Elite for the new 360. I'll give impressions once I get this bad boy hooked up. Looks shiny ;)

How much money did you have to shell out for the upgrade?

Mizzou B-ball fan

06-22-2010, 11:02 AM

How much money did you have to shell out for the upgrade?

All trade-in information and prices are in this link.

Trading In To Get The “New” Xbox 360 [Update] | Loot Ninja (http://loot-ninja.com/2010/06/21/trading-in-to-get-the-new-360/)

spleen1015

06-22-2010, 11:07 AM

All trade-in information and prices are in this link.

Trading In To Get The “New” Xbox 360 [Update] | Loot Ninja (http://loot-ninja.com/2010/06/21/trading-in-to-get-the-new-360/)

Interesting.

Here's a question. Let's say I have my360 and a HD for trade in. If I trade in the HD, how am I going to get my shit off of it once I get the new one home?

Mizzou B-ball fan

06-22-2010, 11:12 AM

The Kinetic, even though it is a pre-order not set to be released for almost 5 months, is currently in the top 3 on Amazon's video games best seller list.

People are preordering an animation studio in South Africa?

The Kinetic. Design - Video - VFX (http://www.thekinetic.co.za/)

stevew

06-22-2010, 11:13 AM

Move at 100 dollars just seems way too expensive.

Mizzou B-ball fan

06-22-2010, 11:14 AM

Interesting.

Here's a question. Let's say I have my360 and a HD for trade in. If I trade in the HD, how am I going to get my shit off of it once I get the new one home?

I would guess you could keep it and not get that trade-in value so you could transfer it, but I'm guessing that your best answer is that you can't do that if you want the trade-in value.

Edit: Cartman gave a better answer below.

Mizzou B-ball fan

06-22-2010, 11:15 AM

Move at 100 dollars just seems way too expensive.

Agreed. Both Kinect and Move are WAY overpriced. The winner here is the people that can hold off for a few months and grab them on some holiday or internet discounts if they really want them.

cartman

06-22-2010, 11:16 AM

Interesting.

Here's a question. Let's say I have my360 and a HD for trade in. If I trade in the HD, how am I going to get my shit off of it once I get the new one home?

In the article it states you can do the HD trade after you moved the content off.

FTA:
On top of the normal trade-in listed above, I plan on trading in a few games I don’t play anymore, my wireless white headset (the new one comes with a black one), my old base 20GB hard drive and I’ll do the 250gb hard drive trade-in later (gotta transfer all of my game saves and information off of it).

CleBrownsfan

06-22-2010, 11:22 AM

I did the transfer on a USB card... hope it works - if not oh well.

It cost me about $160 after trade in of my old box and 250 GB HD. But I traded in some old games + a birthday gift card and it cost me about $80 out of pocket.

I'll tell you the main reason why I did the upgrade. My old box sounded like a damn jet plane when on and I couldn't stand it!

spleen1015

06-22-2010, 11:24 AM

I'm trying to figure out a way to get a new one without the accountant making me sleep in the basement for a couple of days.

CleBrownsfan

06-22-2010, 11:26 AM

I'm trying to figure out a way to get a new one without the accountant making me sleep in the basement for a couple of days.
:lol:

cartman

06-22-2010, 11:27 AM

I'm trying to figure out a way to get a new one without the accountant making me sleep in the basement for a couple of days.

Is your video game area set up in the basement? If so, problem solved! :D

Eaglesfan27

06-22-2010, 11:28 AM

I'm trying to figure out a way to get a new one without the accountant making me sleep in the basement for a couple of days.

I'm glad I am the accountant. Decided today to stop at GameSpot after work to take advantage of the deal.

Mizzou B-ball fan

06-22-2010, 11:32 AM

I'm glad I am the accountant. Decided today to stop at GameSpot after work to take advantage of the deal.

I would think that a lot of 360 users would take advantage of this redesign. With the reliability issues and the fact that this generation is going to last awhile, it's well worth it to get a more reliable alternative that what most currently have at a good trade-in price. I can't imagine the stacks of traded-in consoles that Gamestop is going to have in the coming months. I'm guessing an old model will be pretty cheap by Christmas.

Honolulu_Blue

06-22-2010, 11:41 AM

Does anyone know if you can use an old HD with the new 360? That's the one thing that would keep me from upgrading. I have a bunch of active save games on my hardrive.

Kodos

06-22-2010, 11:44 AM

You have to use a transfer cable to move your saves. The old HDs are not compatible with the redesigned 360.

With my 360 already having had one trip to the repair shop, this is tempting me.

cartman

06-22-2010, 11:45 AM

Does anyone know if you can use an old HD with the new 360? That's the one thing that would keep me from upgrading. I have a bunch of active save games on my hardrive.

It is a different form factor. You'd have to transfer the data. It is pretty simple to do with the MS transfer cable.

CleBrownsfan

06-22-2010, 11:45 AM

Does anyone know if you can use an old HD with the new 360? That's the one thing that would keep me from upgrading. I have a bunch of active save games on my hardrive.

No you can't BUT there are ways to transfer your data

How to Connect an Xbox to a Computer to Transfer Data (http://www.ehow.com/how_2080168_connect-xbox-computer-transfer-data.html)

Honolulu_Blue

06-22-2010, 11:54 AM

No you can't BUT there are ways to transfer your data

How to Connect an Xbox to a Computer to Transfer Data (http://www.ehow.com/how_2080168_connect-xbox-computer-transfer-data.html)

So, could I connect my Xbox to, say, my laptop via an Ethernet cable, transfer the information to the laptop and then do the reverse for the new Xbox? Or do I need some other kind of cable?

Sorry, I don't mean to be dense, these types of things aren't all that intuitive for me.

cartman

06-22-2010, 12:01 PM

So, could I connect my Xbox to, say, my laptop via an Ethernet cable, transfer the information to the laptop and then do the reverse for the new Xbox? Or do I need some other kind of cable?

Sorry, I don't mean to be dense, these types of things aren't all that intuitive for me.

MS has an adapter cable that comes with a CD. You take the old HD out, and plug the cable into the old HD, and the USB end into the Xbox. The CD contains the transfer software. Since a lot of the saves and downloads are encrypted, you'll need the CD to be able to transfer everything.

Honolulu_Blue

06-22-2010, 12:02 PM

MS has an adapter cable that comes with a CD. You take the old HD out, and plug the cable into the old HD, and the USB end into the Xbox. The CD contains the transfer software. Since a lot of the saves and downloads are encrypted, you'll need the CD to be able to transfer everything.

Gotcha. Thanks, cartman.

Any idea how much that adapter cable/CD costs?

CleBrownsfan

06-22-2010, 12:07 PM

I saw one at Gamestop for $20.

cartman

06-22-2010, 12:09 PM

Gotcha. Thanks, cartman.

Any idea how much that adapter cable/CD costs?

I got it for $15 direct from MS. If you'd like, I could ship mine to you to use, if you aren't in a rush.

Ryno

06-22-2010, 12:10 PM

Honolulu_Blue

06-22-2010, 12:12 PM

I got it for $15 direct from MS. If you'd like, I could ship mine to you to use, if you aren't in a rush.

Thanks, man! I may take you up on that offer. I am still not decided whether or not to go with the upgrade, but if I do, I'll definitely give you a shout. I appreciate it.

CleBrownsfan

06-22-2010, 12:18 PM

This is the way I did the transfer using my flash drive. I haven't tried to move the data from the drive to my new unit so we'll see if it works...

How To Use Xbox 360 USB Flash Drive Storage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4J3bmAmOPc)

MJ4H

06-22-2010, 04:46 PM

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k0ruptr

06-22-2010, 06:35 PM

profile save games, rockband / guitar hero songs I'd imagine, and any licenses as well as DLC content/ arcade games

k0ruptr

06-22-2010, 06:36 PM

and yes I am 99% sure a usb stick will work if you do it in chunks of 8 gigs or whatever size your usb stick is.

MJ4H

06-25-2010, 08:45 AM

100 Classic Books for Nintendo DS. Apparently the DSi XL is big enough that Nintendo feels comfortable treating it like an eReader:

Nintendo DS Games - 100 Classic Books | E-Books to Download | Nintendo (http://www.100classicbooks.com/)

My wife is giddy over this. We will probably be getting this (and we have 2 DS Lites, not XLs, so I doubt it will be comfortable reading on it).

Found this at gamestop yesterday and picked it up. Wife read a chapter of Connecticut Yankee after work last night and said it was great. I'm sure it's no kindle or anything like that, but she has an hour to kill once a week when taking our son to therapy, so she loves stuff like this.

Not sure, I'll ever use it, but happy to have the option. Was $20 new.

whomario

06-25-2010, 08:55 AM

new holiday sale on steam until July 4th !

Mizzou B-ball fan

06-29-2010, 09:29 AM

PS3 Firmware 3.40 went live last night, which includes Playstation Plus. Probably going to pick it up now while they're offering the three month bonus.

Here's the blog with details on the service offerings for the PS3 folks.......

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2010/06/24/playstation-plus-your-questions-answered/

whomario

06-29-2010, 10:00 AM

thanks for that link. Have only marginally realized this was coming, since i´m getting a PS3 this Friday might as well start thinking about this one.

On first glance don´t see a huge need to get this, can anyone with a PS3 elaborate in how far this "makes sense" ? I almost never found any 360 online/Indie games worthwile, the 1-hour-trial is kind of stupid to me (1 day i could see).
You also don´t get to choose between free games but there´s allways only 1 available, right ?

The "Exclusive offers on select demos" will be the same as with the 360 i guess, getting demos 1 week early ?

kind of feels like the difference silver---Gold for the 360, only that you can still play online without getting PSN+. For now one could maybe add ? Guess at some point Sony might want to cash in here as well ...

EDIT : Then again i have bot Little Big Planet and Wipeout HD on my list of games i´d like to get used and cheap to check out, both would be included in the year-long membership. Hmm ...

MJ4H

06-29-2010, 02:49 PM

So you guys try to sell me on whether I should get a 360 or PS3. Particularly pros and cons, prices, deals, bundles. Not 100% that I'm going to get one or the other, but I cashed out of poker and have some money to burn. Price *is* an issue, so good deals are good.

I also want non-RPG game recommendations. Must-haves, if you will.

Hit me. I know you guys know the ins and outs well enough to help me.

Pumpy Tudors

06-29-2010, 04:44 PM