More 6.3a clock issues

[DeepPost]

I have read plenty about the timeout issue but has anyone else noticed that the clock is running on extra points?

[Ben E Lou]

Are you sure that this is working any differently than in 6.2 and before? I'm not seeing where it has changed.

[DeepPost]

Only anecdotally; in watching games on solevision pre-6.3a, the game clock never ran on PATs.

[Celeval]

I think we're the same:

Pre-6.3a
<table width="98%" bgcolor="#ffcc00" border="0" cellspacing="1"><tbody><tr><td align="LEFT" bgcolor="#ffffff">Miami: Pro formation, strength is right. The defense is in a 43 with nickel personnel and 2-deep bump-and-run coverage, expecting the pass. Hughey is blitzing.
2-7-GEO19 (1Q: 10:05) Billy Gray pass completed to WR Lee Madison for 19 yards and a TOUCHDOWN! Miami 6, Georgia 0</td></tr> <tr><td align="LEFT" bgcolor="#ffffff"> (1Q: 10:05) Extra point by Lorenzo Reuter was good. Miami 7, Georgia 0</td></tr> <tr><td align="LEFT" bgcolor="#ffffff"> (1Q: 09:55) Lorenzo Reuter kicked off 57 yards from the MIA30. Billy Schweitzer returned the ball 33 yards to the GEO46. Tackled by Ethan Fernandez.</td></tr></tbody></table>
6.3a
<table width="98%" bgcolor="#ffcc00" border="0" cellspacing="1"><tbody><tr><td align="LEFT" bgcolor="#efefef">Georgia: Pro formation, with the second receiver in the slot, strength is right. The defense is in a 43 with nickel personnel and 2-deep man-to-man coverage, expecting the pass.
3-3-OAK03 (1Q: 02:27) Greg Waggoner ran around right end for 3 yards and a TOUCHDOWN! Key block delivered by Shane Cooley. Georgia 6, Oakland 0</td></tr> <tr><td align="LEFT" bgcolor="#efefef"> (1Q: 02:27) Extra point by Tyrell Schwartz was good. Georgia 7, Oakland 0</td></tr> <tr><td align="LEFT" bgcolor="#efefef"> (1Q: 02:20) Tyrell Schwartz kicked off 79 yards from the GEO30. Touchback.</td></tr></tbody></table>

[Celeval]

If I recall correctly, the time there is the time at the start of the play. So in the 6.3a version, the play started at 2:27 and ended at 2:20. However, the XP is listed (as in 6.2 before it) as starting at the same time as the play. I can see how it looks like 7 seconds come off the clock for the XP, though.

[zullojer]

<table border="0" bgcolor="#ffcc00" cellspacing="1" width="98%"><tbody><tr><td align="LEFT" bgcolor="#000066">Official time out for the two-minute warning.</td></tr> <tr><td align="LEFT" bgcolor="#e2eeec">4-6-BUF24 (4Q: 02:00) Duane Rousseau attempted a 41 yard field goal and missed wide to the left.</td></tr> <tr><td align="LEFT" bgcolor="#d5dbe4">Buffalo: Pro formation with two tight ends, strength is right. The defense is in a 34 and 2-deep bump-and-run coverage, keying aggressively on the run.
1-10-BUF31 (4Q: 01:55) Cedric Patterson ran inside the left tackle for 1 yard. Tackled by DT Hardy Poland, assisted by S Tyrell Reichenberg. </td></tr> <tr><td align="LEFT" bgcolor="#d5dbe4">Buffalo: I formation with two tight ends, strength is left. The defense is in a 34 and 2-deep man-to-man coverage, keying aggressively on the run.
2-9-BUF32 (4Q: 01:10) Cedric Patterson ran around left end for 2 yards. Tackled by S Tyrell Reichenberg. </td></tr> <tr><td align="LEFT" bgcolor="#000066"> (4Q: 01:10) Philadelphia called a time out.</td></tr> <tr><td align="LEFT" bgcolor="#d5dbe4">Buffalo: Strong formation with two tight ends, strength is left. The defense is in a 34 and 2-deep bump-and-run coverage, keying aggressively on the run.
3-7-BUF34 (4Q: 01:01) Cedric Patterson ran around left end for 1 yard. Tackled by OLB Grady Barthwell. </td></tr> <tr><td align="LEFT" bgcolor="#d5dbe4">4-6-BUF35 (4Q: 00:16) Bubba Summers punted 48 yards. Shane Gounod called for a fair catch at the PHI17.</td></tr> <tr><td align="LEFT" bgcolor="#e2eeec">Philadelphia: Weak formation, strength is right. The defense is in a 34 with dime personnel and 3-deep zone coverage, keying aggressively on the pass.
1-10-PHI17 (4Q: 00:08) Dana Farmer pass completed to WR Joel Smith for 8 yards. Tackled by CB Joey Manning. The quarterback threw away from the double coverage.</td></tr> <tr><td align="LEFT" bgcolor="#ffcc00">Final Score: Buffalo Bills 10, Philadelphia Eagles 7</td></tr></tbody></table>

with 2 minutes left we stuff the bills on 3 straight runs. we had all of our time outs but the coach only called 1 timeout out of the 3 plays. He called a timeout after 2nd down. We force the punt and have the ball back with 8 seconds left and 2 timeouts. First play completed for 8 yards, end of game. We played bad enough to lose this game, of course. But it feels horrible to have some new glitch in the game after the new patch not give me the one last chance that i used to make gold on.

I have read a handful of stuff like this across my leagues, but this is the first time i have seen it in my game.

[da commish]

I think we're the same:

Pre-6.3a

6.3a

I think this raises another timing problem. This shows that 7 seconds ran off the clock on a touchback. NFL rules state that the clock does not start on a kickoff if the receiving team does not enter the field of play. So there should not have been any time run off on the kickoff/touchback.

[stevew]

I'd assume that the 7 seconds ran off during the play, and the game is just presenting it oddly.

[Stokes36]

I'd assume that the 7 seconds ran off during the play, and the game is just presenting it oddly.

This is what I was also thinking.

It showed that on the touchdown play as the SAME time as the extra point. That doesn't make too much sense, does it?

That's how I've always seen it, at least

[jdavidbakr]

This is what I was also thinking.

It showed that on the touchdown play as the SAME time as the extra point. That doesn't make too much sense, does it?

That's how I've always seen it, at least

I'll bet the game engine includes the extra point in the touchdown play as a single play, giving both of them the same clock time.

[da commish]

I'd assume that the 7 seconds ran off during the play, and the game is just presenting it oddly.
I think you may be right. I read it wrong. My bad.

[Ben E Lou]

Yeah, I've never quite understood the time presentation around TD/XP/Kickoff, but haven't really cared enough at that level of detail to investigate it or ask Support about it.

[Firefly]

If I recall correctly, the time there is the time at the start of the play. So in the 6.3a version, the play started at 2:27 and ended at 2:20. However, the XP is listed (as in 6.2 before it) as starting at the same time as the play. I can see how it looks like 7 seconds come off the clock for the XP, though.


Good catch!

[MIJB#19]

If I recall correctly, the time there is the time at the start of the play. So in the 6.3a version, the play started at 2:27 and ended at 2:20. However, the XP is listed (as in 6.2 before it) as starting at the same time as the play. I can see how it looks like 7 seconds come off the clock for the XP, though.Might be just a cosmetic issue, but could also be a way to avoid having the time run out before the PAT is attempted.