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SackAttack
02-28-2010, 09:16 PM
I'm holding you responsible for my PS3 not playing any games while PSN is having issues. Fix it! :p

Sun Tzu
02-28-2010, 09:29 PM
I heard about this.

Sun Tzu
02-28-2010, 09:30 PM
Dola

I've also heard rumblings about potential lost/corrupted saved data when/if you receive an error message trying to connect...I would double check.

the_meanstrosity
02-28-2010, 11:18 PM
I'm holding you responsible for my PS3 not playing any games while PSN is having issues. Fix it! :p

Get a NES. Then all you have to worry about is blowing on games to make them work. Where's the duck hunt emoticon?!

SackAttack
02-28-2010, 11:33 PM
Get a NES. Then all you have to worry about is blowing on games to make them work. Where's the duck hunt emoticon?!

Pfft. I have a toploading NES. My NES games work fine.

sterlingice
02-28-2010, 11:47 PM
Pfft. I have a toploading NES. My NES games work fine.

Ditto :D

SI

the_meanstrosity
02-28-2010, 11:56 PM
Pfft. I have a toploading NES. My NES games work fine.

You want to trade systems? I'll throw Robby the Robot in for free along with a copy of Gyromite.

SackAttack
03-01-2010, 12:27 AM
You want to trade systems? I'll throw Robby the Robot in for free along with a copy of Gyromite.

No, not really. I like my toploading NES. There's a reason Nintendo went with that design for the SNES/N64 y'know.

sterlingice
03-01-2010, 12:51 AM
That and it cost me about $75 to get one whereas you can get a cheap NES for $10

SI

SackAttack
03-01-2010, 01:47 AM
I got mine for about $25. Next time the guy who sold it to me had one, he was selling it for $80.

I didn't realize they were worth that much when I bought mine.

the_meanstrosity
03-01-2010, 01:59 AM
That and it cost me about $75 to get one whereas you can get a cheap NES for $10

SI

Best $10 I ever spent. Ok, second best.

Sun Tzu
03-01-2010, 02:02 AM
Emulators ftw

SirFozzie
03-01-2010, 02:24 AM
“Fat” PS3s Down For Indefinite Period | Platform Nation (http://www.platformnation.com/2010/02/28/psn-down-for-an-indefinite-period/)

all old PS3's bugged.

BRILLIANT!

Sun Tzu
03-01-2010, 02:36 AM
I have a "fat" 80 GB model that has been, and still is working fine. I wonder why I fell into the "some fat models have worked ok" category. Oh well, good for me. Hopefully I get that early copy of The Show 10 :)

SackAttack
03-01-2010, 03:06 AM
I have a "fat" 80 GB model that has been, and still is working fine. I wonder why I fell into the "some fat models have worked ok" category. Oh well, good for me. Hopefully I get that early copy of The Show 10 :)

Well, the 80 GB model is a different model number. Different hard drive size, obviously, but different guts, too - it lacks the Emotion Engine. So it's possible that something else in the 80 GB production run was changed that kept the flaw from hitting you.

My bet? the 60s and possibly 20s are the only ones suffering among the "fat" models.

Icy
03-01-2010, 05:15 AM
I have also the 80Gb model and the date is correct for me too.

The bug is related to old models clock miscalculating a leap year, so it couldn't advance from Feb 28th to March 1st.

Sony has said in their twitter that they are working on it now, i guess a new firmware will be released asap, but yeah, not the best PR thing for Sony, i guess some heads will be cut after a massive bug like this.

Y2k bug is back!!! :)

Mizzou B-ball fan
03-01-2010, 07:33 AM
I still remember Dec 31, 1999. Sat in an office for hours waiting for a tsunami of system errors that never happened. Ah well. At least the pizza was good.

Tigercat
03-01-2010, 09:25 AM
ha yeaaaa mine thinks its 6pmish december 31. Didn't bother to check the year. Ah well, if it is back up and running fine tonight, I am still very happy that my 60gb launch hasn't had any problems up until now.

Mizzou B-ball fan
03-01-2010, 09:32 AM
ha yeaaaa mine thinks its 6pmish december 31. Didn't bother to check the year. Ah well, if it is back up and running fine tonight, I am still very happy that my 60gb launch hasn't had any problems up until now.

Only in New Orleans (and Vegas) would 9:25 AM be considered 'tonight'. :)

MikeVic
03-01-2010, 09:49 AM
So if it's fixed in the slim model, they must have known about it beforehand right...?

I got the error (I have the 80GB hardware backwards compatible one). If I can't play Battlefield tomorrow, I will not be very happy with Sony.

Mizzou B-ball fan
03-01-2010, 10:14 AM
So if it's fixed in the slim model, they must have known about it beforehand right...?

I got the error (I have the 80GB hardware backwards compatible one). If I can't play Battlefield tomorrow, I will not be very happy with Sony.

I believe the firmware varies slightly between the models because the hardware inside each one isn't exactly the same. Given the symptoms, I'm guessing they made a goof in the firmware on one model and it was done correctly on other models.

DeToxRox
03-01-2010, 12:37 PM
How long has the PS3 issue been going on? I played Heavy Rain yesterday with no issues so am I safe?

DeToxRox
03-01-2010, 12:40 PM
Bah. I decided to check and I have been thoroughly and utterly boned.

If I can't play the Show tomorrow I will riot.

MikeVic
03-01-2010, 12:43 PM
Yeah the only word I see from Sony right now is to wait 24 hours. If I can't play Bad Company 2 tomorrow, it's a sign I should just quit console games. I have never bought a console FPS, and actually had fun with the BC2 demo. So much fun that I pre-ordered it and was floored by the $80 price tag after taxes. If I can't play it on launch, my relationship with consoles is done.

RainMaker
03-01-2010, 01:06 PM
Yeah the only word I see from Sony right now is to wait 24 hours. If I can't play Bad Company 2 tomorrow, it's a sign I should just quit console games. I have never bought a console FPS, and actually had fun with the BC2 demo. So much fun that I pre-ordered it and was floored by the $80 price tag after taxes. If I can't play it on launch, my relationship with consoles is done.
Always go 360 for online.

Mizzou B-ball fan
03-01-2010, 01:09 PM
Yeah the only word I see from Sony right now is to wait 24 hours.

I would be shocked if they didn't have it done by midnight. They know they need to have it available for the release of The Show.

DeToxRox
03-01-2010, 01:27 PM
I would be shocked if they didn't have it done by midnight. They know they need to have it available for the release of The Show.

But since people can't connect to the PSN how can they get the patch?

Sun Tzu
03-01-2010, 01:32 PM
Yeah the only word I see from Sony right now is to wait 24 hours. If I can't play Bad Company 2 tomorrow, it's a sign I should just quit console games. I have never bought a console FPS, and actually had fun with the BC2 demo. So much fun that I pre-ordered it and was floored by the $80 price tag after taxes. If I can't play it on launch, my relationship with consoles is done.

Right, because PC's never have issues, and PC gaming is always bug free. :rolleyes:

Build me a $300 rig that can play every single game on the market and is so reliable that when there is one bug reported in the system (that supposedly has a 24 hour shelf life) everybody is shocked, and that will also be considered top of the line for 3-4 years.

MikeVic
03-01-2010, 01:46 PM
Right, because PC's never have issues, and PC gaming is always bug free. :rolleyes:

Build me a $300 rig that can play every single game on the market and is so reliable that when there is one bug reported in the system (that supposedly has a 24 hour shelf life) everybody is shocked, and that will also be considered top of the line for 3-4 years.

Save your rolleyes for someone else, I rarely play any computer games right now either and really the only time I play any video games is if it's some kind of multi-player thing, and I could care less about the console vs PC debates. I find video games less and less enjoyable, except for some reason I found Bad Company 2 fun with friends (and not against random people). If the PS3 has some stupid bug the day of release for the first game I've pre-ordered in years... that's a sign to me that I'm pretty much done with gaming. That's all I'm saying ("console" should be taken out from my post).

Mizzou B-ball fan
03-01-2010, 01:54 PM
But since people can't connect to the PSN how can they get the patch?

Given that it's happening to quite a few people, I'm sure they're taking that into consideration. Just speculation, but I'm guessing they could implement a server patch that would allow those consoles to connect with the bad date and then send a patch to correct the issue.

Sun Tzu
03-01-2010, 01:54 PM
Got it. Ignore the rolleyes then.

SackAttack
03-01-2010, 02:07 PM
But since people can't connect to the PSN how can they get the patch?

You can deliver firmware updates via a USB flash drive. It's how I used to update my PS3 when there was a new firmware update, since downloading via wireless took all month, practically.

Download it via PC, transfer it to USB, install from there.

Mizzou B-ball fan
03-01-2010, 02:10 PM
You can deliver firmware updates via a USB flash drive. It's how I used to update my PS3 when there was a new firmware update, since downloading via wireless took all month, practically.

Download it via PC, transfer it to USB, install from there.

I would guess that would be a last ditch effort. They'll want to do a server side patch if at all possible. Otherwise, you have the issue of communicating the fix to people so they can do it manually. That just sounds like a nightmare.

SackAttack
03-01-2010, 02:26 PM
I would guess that would be a last ditch effort. They'll want to do a server side patch if at all possible. Otherwise, you have the issue of communicating the fix to people so they can do it manually. That just sounds like a nightmare.

I guess that depends on whether the bug is locking down all network activity with the PS3 or just the PSN connectivity. I haven't clicked on 'network update' to see if it tries to do anything. If it can't connect to look for firmware, the option I listed would be pretty much the only one.

RainMaker
03-01-2010, 02:46 PM
MBBF, please let your bosses know I'll be furious if I can't play The Show this week. I have been fucking giddy for this game for months.

Cringer
03-01-2010, 04:24 PM
Since I heard earlier that Heavy Rain is unplayable for some people because of this, I am glad I finished it yesterday. My guess is if you don't have auto PSN sign-in turned on you would be ok, but I don't know just a guess. I have it turned on, so I am not turning on my PS3 for a day or so.

terpkristin
03-01-2010, 04:53 PM
Interesting, I never look at my control panel, but given that I have an original 60 GB (launch) unit, I'm guessing I'm hosed.

I'm sad that all I really do on my PS3 is watch DVD's. I even pre-ordered Final Fantasy XIII for 360. I just don't enjoy playing games on my PS3. Sad, last generation I definitely would have been labeled a Sony Fangirl.

/tk

Logan
03-01-2010, 05:46 PM
I normally wouldn't care about this, but my buddies and I play FIFA on PS3. We tried getting our usual 2 on 2 (all in person) game going last night but couldn't, and it infuriated me.

In all honesty, a network problem causing a system to not even allow you to play offline games is the stupidest fucking thing I've heard in my entire life, and I spend my days talking to bankers.

terpkristin
03-01-2010, 05:50 PM
Twitter rumors say the PS3 might be back up.

/tk

DeToxRox
03-01-2010, 05:50 PM
Its apparently fixed.

DeToxRox
03-01-2010, 05:50 PM
Just checked. Its fixed. The internal clock apparently is set to March 1st now.

SackAttack
03-01-2010, 05:53 PM
Yeah, working here now, although the clock was set to 2/28. I had to do an update-via-Internet on the time to get the correct date.

Travis
03-01-2010, 05:56 PM
Oh this is (potentially) glorious. I'm needing a fix of the new Borderlands DLC something fierce.

Here's hoping my character didn't get deleted somehow with these issues.

CleBrownsfan
03-01-2010, 05:59 PM
cool... this had me a little worried. I haven't turned on my PS3 in a couple days so all should be okay for me.

MikeVic
03-01-2010, 11:48 PM
Yay it works!

Mizzou B-ball fan
03-02-2010, 06:51 AM
Server-side patch, as I had thought. The fix they did for date correction was relatively easy. I'm guessing it just took awhile because they wanted to make sure they didn't screw something else up in the process.

Philliesfan980
03-02-2010, 07:15 AM
Server-side patch, as I had thought. The fix they did for date correction was relatively easy. I'm guessing it just took awhile because they wanted to make sure they didn't screw something else up in the process.

Yep, I know that the PS3 gets a bad rap for some reason, but they handled this about as well as anyone could expect.

RainMaker
03-02-2010, 09:09 AM
Good news, I have some Show to be playing tonight and some classic stadiums to be downloading.

Sun Tzu
03-02-2010, 10:19 AM
Good news, I have some Show to be playing tonight and some classic stadiums to be downloading.

Sounds like the Stadiums wont be available quite yet...:(

SackAttack
03-02-2010, 02:52 PM
Server-side patch, as I had thought. The fix they did for date correction was relatively easy. I'm guessing it just took awhile because they wanted to make sure they didn't screw something else up in the process.

ROFL. Nah.

System clock was bugged. Not the one you see when you turn on the console (although that was an artifact of the issue), but the hardware clock.

That's why they said "We hope to have a fix in 24 hours." Waiting for the system to stop choking on "Feb 29, 2010."

I had my PS3 disconnected from the network after the issue first popped up, and it still fixed itself after 24 hours. Patch had nothing to do with it.

JS19
03-15-2010, 02:03 PM
Didn't want to start a new thread, but is there a reason why nobody has any PS3's for sale? A buddy of mine is looking for one he's been to Best Buy, Walmart, Game Stop, Toys R Us, a couple local game stores, nobody has them. Are they that popular or is something going on?

Mizzou B-ball fan
03-15-2010, 02:11 PM
Didn't want to start a new thread, but is there a reason why nobody has any PS3's for sale? A buddy of mine is looking for one he's been to Best Buy, Walmart, Game Stop, Toys R Us, a couple local game stores, nobody has them. Are they that popular or is something going on?

There's a shortage right now. There's quite a few 250 GB machines left over, but the 120 GB machines are hard to come by. Probably best just to order online. They get a supply here and there.

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/107/1076952p1.html

SackAttack
03-15-2010, 02:21 PM
Didn't want to start a new thread, but is there a reason why nobody has any PS3's for sale? A buddy of mine is looking for one he's been to Best Buy, Walmart, Game Stop, Toys R Us, a couple local game stores, nobody has them. Are they that popular or is something going on?

Sony's trying "Launch-Style Shortage 2: Electric Boogaloo."

That, or they got caught with their pants down on manufacturing and honestly didn't think that a sane price point plus, I dunno, MLB 10, God of War III, and Final Fantasy XIII would generate much greater demand than they've seen in this hardware cycle.

You be the judge!