2010 NCAA Tournament (and NIT) Thread

[RainMaker]

I think the Dominos commercials would be better if after they say "he said some unflattering things about our pizza", they went to his house and beat the shit out of him.

[panerd]

Did they call a foul? It looked like one and the announcers seemed confused.

He was confused because Aldrich basically pushed the guy and the ball out of bounds and he heard the whistle and assumed it was a foul whistle.

[JonInMiddleGA]

for terpkristin - 59-53 at 3:38

[mauchow]

He traveled. The feet were sliding.

[mauchow]

THey're melting! THEY'RE MELTING! OooOoH No!1

[TargetPractice6]

Northern Iowa starting to choke it away...

[JonInMiddleGA]

for terpkristin - 59-56 with 2:32 and KU on th eline

[JonInMiddleGA]

missed the front of the 1-and-1

[RainMaker]

Not sure why Northern Iowa stopped attacking. Their handling of the press is atrocious. They almost seem to be begging to be trapped. You need to pass before they trap you.

[whomario]

How was that a foul ???

[JonInMiddleGA]

1:58 left, loose ball foul on KU

[Eaglesfan27]

Huge rebound by Northern Iowa. 61-56 with 1:58 to go after he makes both FT's.

[Eaglesfan27]

Collins called for the charge! Good call.

[hoopsguy]

Free throws and offensive rebounding - don't know what the numbers say but it sure feels like NI has been winning these.

Another idiotic Collins play.

[mauchow]

It wasn't a charge but it wasn't a personal foul either.. he missed the layup so it didn't matter anyway Self.

Move on. Let's go UNI! A full 35 second possession would be nice.

[JonInMiddleGA]

for terpkristin - 63-56 with 1:15 left on a putback

[sterlingice]

Why in the world are we not keeping the pressure up??

SI

[Eaglesfan27]

Another offensive board and the putback dunk! Northern Iowa up 63-56 with 1:07 to go.

[mauchow]

Hell yeah, baby! What a huge possession there. Huge Offensive rebound and then the SLAM!

[JonInMiddleGA]

KU hits a pair so its 63-58 UNI with 1:07 left

[mauchow]

Jesus, call a timeout....

[whomario]

another ultra important offensive rebound and the dunk :)

[Easy Mac]

Cable has been out since 1 today. Finally got to watch the tournament about 15 minutes ago. I hate charter.

[JonInMiddleGA]

UNI throws an errant homerun pass trying in vain to break the press. Turns it over to KU in their offensive end

[mauchow]

Holy late call by the ref there...

[Easy Mac]

That was an obscenely late call

[JonInMiddleGA]

I swear I think the ref actually waited to see if that shot was going down before deciding to call the foul.

[JonInMiddleGA]

KU hits another pair, pulls with 63-60 with 53.8 seconds left

[Eaglesfan27]

Sigh. Northern Iowa with another turnover in the backcourt.

[mauchow]

oh my goodness.. uni..... what the hell is the matter withyou guys.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Another turnover, another easy KU basket, now just 63-62 UNI with like 43 secs left.

[Philliesfan980]

This is just sad what's going on with UNI. Does the coach not run ANY pressure drills in practice?

[RainMaker]

Yeah, they don't deserve to win. Like they've never seen a full court trap before.

[panerd]

My guess is KU is a little more used to the big stage than UNI.

[mauchow]

Why wouldn't Kansas play this pressure defense all game long? UNI absolutely cannot handle this pressure. If UNI wins, their next opponent should be taking some huge notes.

[sterlingice]

Again, I just don't get why we didn't pressure so much earlier. If we had done this just to start the game, it would probably be a 20 point blowout rather than me sweating here, unsure if we are actually going to make the Sweet 16

SI

[mauchow]

It's crazy to see fans hanging their heads like this... they're winning but they know it's not looking good.

[Eaglesfan27]

HUGE 3 by Northern Iowa!

[JonInMiddleGA]

clutch 3 by UNI, offensive foul on the other end by KU, now 66-62 with 26 secs to play

[mauchow]

HOLY FUCKING THREE!!!

[sterlingice]

Holy crap. That might be it for us :(

SI

[Philliesfan980]

YES! FUCK YOU BILL SELF! I HATE KANSAS AND THEIR THUGS!

[panerd]

They called the charge!!!

[whomario]

What a stupidly brilliant shot !!! :eek: You miss that and you get chased with the pitchforks :D:devil:

[BYU 14]

KU is done!

[panerd]

It's crazy to see fans hanging their heads like this... they're winning but they know it's not looking good.

Yeah if UNI wins there is no doubt the team members will watch copies of this for the rest of their lives. And there the one player's mom is looking like they just lost the game.

[Philliesfan980]

They called the charge!!!

Might be the only time a ref actually had any balls in this whole tourney.

[jbergey22]

Ballsy shot by UNI. If he misses he is the clown of the tourny.

[Buccaneer]

UNI with a nice spread and ball movement to get an easy 3. Then KU tries to go 1 on 5 again and gets the charge. I love it.

[TargetPractice6]

Amazing game here! Now just hit your free throws UNI...

[JonInMiddleGA]

Yeah, they don't deserve to win. Like they've never seen a full court trap before.

In defense of the coaching et al, they've faced two teams in the top 40 RPI all season. Even if they've seen pressure, they've likely never seen it applied by anything close to the talent level that KU has.

[mauchow]

What a stupidly brilliant shot !!! :eek: You miss that and you get chased with the pitchforks :D:devil:

One of those "NOOOOO! YESSSSS!" moments.

[Radii]

They called the charge!!!

they called the same charge a couple minutes ago. You sure you wouldn't rather kansas win so there would be ref crying? ;)

[Easy Mac]

My wife and I weren't the only ones who screamed no when he took that three , were we?

[JonInMiddleGA]

67-64 UNI after a KU putback. UNI ball with 6.7 seconds when we return.

[panerd]

they called the same charge a couple minutes ago. You sure you wouldn't rather kansas win so there would be ref crying? ;)


Oh no, I definitely want KU to lose and I fully admit that I am seeing the game from an anti-KU point of view. :)

[Young Drachma]

My wife and I weren't the only ones who screamed no when he took that three , were we?

I'm like "you can't take that 3....holy cow, he made it."

It's a good example of knowing your shot and he had an open look, so I guess if you're gonna do it, there's the time to do it.

UNI earned this win, they've led almost the whole way.

[TargetPractice6]

That should ice it!

[Philliesfan980]

THERE IT IS! FUCK YOU KANSAS!

[terpkristin]

Wow.
Sounds like the KU game is sick.

/tk

[JonInMiddleGA]

FT good, that should ice it

[Young Drachma]

Ballgame.

[mauchow]

I don't think they should have called a timeout after that bucket.. UNI had not been doing well inbounding the ball after a bucket.. that was it for them, imo.

[Lathum]

wow

[TargetPractice6]

HELL YEAH NORTHERN IOWA!!!!

[Eaglesfan27]

Love the Northern Iowa player diving at the rolling ball to make them pick it up earlier.

Northern Iowa wins it 69-67!

[cartman]

My bracket is now officially FUBAR

[mauchow]

There goes my two brackets... Had them losing in the championship in one and winning the other one.

And I've never been so happy !!! hahaha.

[Noop]

Pretty pathetic performance by Kansas.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

I've never been so happy to be so wrong in my entire life.

[Buccaneer]

Unfuckingbelievable! Wohoo! (Sorry SI)

[terpkristin]

Who's bracket ISN'T fubar'd now?

/tk

[Galaril]

Seriously? This is sarcasm, right?

Sure, they're beatable but everyone in the tourney is beatable as I have yet to see the perfect team.

SI

Ah sarcasm no. Reality they just lost to Northern "Fucking" Iowa. I love chaos:lol:

[JonInMiddleGA]

Utter, complete, and total collapse by Kansas.

The least flawed team in the field just got done in the same way it happened at least once earlier this year, lack of intensity & composure. Obviously the lesson in Knoxville either wasn't learned or was forgotten.

[Young Drachma]

I really hate the crying when you lose thing.

[Philliesfan980]

Maybe these big time college programs will start building teams instead of 1-3 star players. If anything that can be proven in this tournament, it's that.

[RainMaker]

In defense of the coaching et al, they've faced two teams in the top 40 RPI all season. Even if they've seen pressure, they've likely never seen it applied by anything close to the talent level that KU has.

It's the way they played it though. You pass out before you get trapped. They were running to the corner almost and waiting to be trapped before passing or making a move.

[Noop]

I really hate the crying when you lose thing.

You must have never played on a good team before...

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Good to see at least Baylor is doing the Big 12 proud this afternoon. Hopefully KSU will do the same.

[muns]

Boy that big 12 conference must really suck huh

[sterlingice]

Ah sarcasm no. Reality they just lost to Northern "Fucking" Iowa. I love chaos:lol:

Yeah, I get that- possibly more than all but a couple on this board. But, really, prior to the tourney, who was the #1 seed out there?

SI

[the_meanstrosity]

Congrats to UNI. That was a heck of a performance by them. I said it before and I'll say it again they just imposed their will on Kansas today. Very impressive. They didn't shoot lights out, Kansas didn't play poorly, UNI just executed their game plan.

[MrBug708]

The big 12 is the suck. I blame panerd and his pac 10 sucks comments

[Young Drachma]

Maybe these big time college programs will start building teams instead of 1-3 star players. If anything that can be proven in this tournament, it's that.

Nope, they won't.

[RainMaker]

Good to see at least Baylor is doing the Big 12 proud this afternoon. Hopefully KSU will do the same.
That program has come a long way from the Dave Bliss era. That shit could have buried them. Props for where they have gotten to.

[Young Drachma]

You must have never played on a good team before...

You're wrong, but thanks for playing. It's called composure. Disappointment is one thing, but the "omgz, I'm gonna sit on the floor and be a baby..." thing? It's just reflects poorly.

[Buccaneer]

Who's bracket ISN'T fubar'd now?

/tk

The only way to win is not to play.

[RainMaker]

Maybe these big time college programs will start building teams instead of 1-3 star players. If anything that can be proven in this tournament, it's that.
Those 1-3 star player teams win Championships.

[Young Drachma]

Damn, Washington is serious.

[sterlingice]

Utter, complete, and total collapse by Kansas.

The least flawed team in the field just got done in the same way it happened at least once earlier this year, lack of intensity & composure. Obviously the lesson in Knoxville either wasn't learned or was forgotten.

Unfortunately, you're right. And hubris. Again, I think the coaching staff gets quite a bit of the blame- again, if we had put more defensive pressure on them rather than holding back until it was too late, this might have been a completely lopsided game. Sure, Collins also gets his fair share tho, like meanstrosity said, his crazy competitive streak helps more often than not and you have to take the good with the bad.

Oh well, go Big XII! I'd love to see K-State and Baylor in the Final Four :)

SI

[terpkristin]

Damn, Washington is serious.

They were up seemingly handily when I left home. What's the differential?

/tk

[JonInMiddleGA]

Maybe these big time college programs will start building teams instead of 1-3 star players. If anything that can be proven in this tournament, it's that.

LOL, right. Ask Kentucky about that. Hell, ask Georgia Tech about that.

Talent will always be selected in spite of head/heart issues,.

[Young Drachma]

They were up seemingly handily when I left home. What's the differential?

/tk

78-59 with 4 minutes to go. I just hadn't checked up since earlier in the game.

[Scoobz0202]

Who's bracket ISN'T fubar'd now?

/tk



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[sterlingice]

Congrats to UNI. That was a heck of a performance by them. I said it before and I'll say it again they just imposed their will on Kansas today. Very impressive. They didn't shoot lights out, Kansas didn't play poorly, UNI just executed their game plan.

Agreed. Could Kansas have done things differently? Yeah. But they went out there and imposed their will on us and nothing we could do stopped them until it was much too late.

SI

[DaddyTorgo]

great for Northern Iowa. My brother has had a man-crush on them since like...last year...so we were all pretty amped for the game today...surprised somewhat and obviously delighted they managed to hold off the late Kansas pressure and take the win!

[Eaglesfan27]

They were up seemingly handily when I left home. What's the differential?

/tk

Washington is up 76-59 with time running low.

[Noop]

You're wrong, but thanks for playing. It's called composure. Disappointment is one thing, but the "omgz, I'm gonna sit on the floor and be a baby..." thing? It's just reflects poorly.

So you don't know why they are crying especially after they have invested an incredible amount of time with the hopes of winning a championship? They were the heavily favored team to win the whole thing. I would expect them to be crying a river because they realized they blew it. You come off as a perennial bench warm who secretly rooted for your own team to lose.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Again, I think the coaching staff gets quite a bit of the blame

I'd have to think it gets the vast majority of the blame for this one.

While it's ultimately the players on the floor, this looked like an emotional/psychological carbon copy of the UT game (hate to keep going back to that but there weren't many other losses to compare it to, y'know). Effective coaching ultimately finds a way to overcome that, although at the same time it might be a case where not even a bench of Wooden, Summitt, and Knight could overcome it.

[terpkristin]

Wow. Sounds like Washington's going to blow some minds.

To think, when Maryland loses to Mich St. tomorrow, it's not going to be a blip on the radar.

/tk

[Philliesfan980]

LOL, right. Ask Kentucky about that. Hell, ask Georgia Tech about that.

Talent will always be selected in spite of head/heart issues,.

Oh yeah, I totally agree with you. I just honestly feel that a good TEAM will beat a squad of 1-2 superstars everytime.

I'm really starting to hate college athletics. As to the crying comment, I really don't know who it was, but maybe it was some senior who never actually went to class and now realizes that he's fucked and will be working some $11/hr job sometime soon.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Congrats to UNI. That was a heck of a performance by them. I said it before and I'll say it again they just imposed their will on Kansas today. Very impressive. They didn't shoot lights out, Kansas didn't play poorly, UNI just executed their game plan.

You're correct. Kansas didn't play poorly. In order to do that, they'd actually have to show up to the game.

[Noop]

LOL, right. Ask Kentucky about that. Hell, ask Georgia Tech about that.

Talent will always be selected in spite of head/heart issues,.

+1

[MacroGuru]

Well, my bracket(s) are fubared now...I do have a fun one I made that picked Baylor to take it all...

So for now it's watch and see how BYU does and if Baylor goes all the way..I will laugh.

[panerd]

The big 12 is the suck. I blame panerd and his pac 10 sucks comments

I will gladly take a KU loss being my fault anyday. At the end of the day I really only care about Mizzou and Baylor or A&M or OSU losing has no effect on me whatsoever. (Of course I will always be happy about a KU loss) Last I checked Mizzou was still in this thing and if they lose tomorrow (I admit bias and know we probably will) I just won't visit the thread for a few days. :)

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Well, my bracket(s) are fubared now...I do have a fun one I made that picked Baylor to take it all...

So for now it's watch and see how BYU does and if Baylor goes all the way..I will laugh.

They've got a good chance to advance deep. They've got a 10 seed in the Sweet 16 game.

[Noop]

Northern Iowa is more like a 3 or 4 seed I wouldn't be surprise to see them in the elite 8.

[Galaril]

Yeah, I get that- possibly more than all but a couple on this board. But, really, prior to the tourney, who was the #1 seed out there?

SI

Agree and sorry I was paying attention to the thread earlier. I see now that you are a Jayhawks fan. I did not know that. Sorry for the loss Kansas had a great season and to be honest all ribbing aside NI was just hot and lucky like George Mason acouple of years ago. Whoever meets these guys next whether it be Michigan St. or Maryland better not take them lightly.

[Buccaneer]

You mean talent like a star player going 4 for 15?

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

I will gladly take a KU loss being my fault anyday. At the end of the day I really only care about Mizzou and Baylor or A&M or OSU losing has no effect on me whatsoever. (Of course I will always be happy about a KU loss) Last I checked Mizzou was still in this thing and if they lose tomorrow (I admit bias and know we probably will) I just won't visit the thread for a few days. :)

We're supposed to be already out of this thing already. It's just gravy now. No need to shy away from that. If we win tomorrow, it will mark two straight years we've advanced further than Kansas. Wouldn't be bad at all.

[Young Drachma]

So you don't know why they are crying especially after they have invested an incredible amount of time with the hopes of winning a championship? They were the heavily favored team to win the whole thing. I would expect them to be crying a river because they realized they blew it. You come off as a perennial bench warm who secretly rooted for your own team to lose.

lol, ok. If I'm coaching the team, I've prepared them mentally for this moment and while emotions are expected, I'd also expect them to get themselves intact and leave the court with some dignity.

You win sometimes, you lose sometimes. In neither case, is it the end of the world. There are more important things and you have to keep it all in perspective. No, I've never coached (or played) college basketball, but having done so in a different sport I know a bit about the highs and lows of winning and losing.

You gotta keep your head. I know basketball is different because of all of the money fueled into this stuff and how many of the players don't really have lives outside the game, but...I was just stating my opinion. It doesn't make it definitive, but I think it's just in poor taste, it's not due to a lack of empathy or an inability to relate.

[hoopsguy]

You mean talent like a star player going 4 for 15?

He was so much worse than those numbers.

[SirFozzie]

Time of death of Fozzie's bracket: 6:00 PM Saturday.

But I don't give a damn. Wow. What a crazy crazy thursday and saturday bracket.

[panerd]

Oh yeah, I totally agree with you. I just honestly feel that a good TEAM will beat a squad of 1-2 superstars everytime.

I'm really starting to hate college athletics. As to the crying comment, I really don't know who it was, but maybe it was some senior who never actually went to class and now realizes that he's fucked and will be working some $11/hr job sometime soon.

I am pretty sure it was Mario Little and he didn't play all year so I guess that is probably true emotion about thinking what a difference he could have made.

[Noop]

lol, ok. If I'm coaching the team, I've prepared them mentally for this moment and while emotions are expected, I'd also expect them to get themselves intact and leave the court with some dignity.

You win sometimes, you lose sometimes. In neither case, is it the end of the world. There are more important things and you have to keep it all in perspective. No, I've never coached (or played) college basketball, but having done so in a different sport I know a bit about the highs and lows of winning and losing.

You gotta keep your head. I know basketball is different because of all of the money fueled into this stuff and how many of the players don't really have lives outside the game, but...I was just stating my opinion. It doesn't make it definitive, but I think it's just in poor taste, it's not due to a lack of empathy or an inability to relate.

Understood. However you must consider not everyone is emotionally stable and for 90% of them this is the last stop.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

I was impressed on Thursday and I'm even more impressed with their play today. Washington (and California) are really sticking it in the face of Pac-10 critics (of which I was one of them).

[sterlingice]

Maybe these big time college programs will start building teams instead of 1-3 star players. If anything that can be proven in this tournament, it's that.

To be fair, I think Self does a good job of building a team. It's really rare to have a balanced team and still have enough talent to win. The 2008 Kansas team had that but it turns out they had 7 future NBA draftees (or is it 8?). And that was as balanced a team as I can recall seeing in college in a long time.

Look at our rotation- we got gutted after 2008, with at least 5 guys either graduating or leaving as juniors for the NBA. Collins is our only senior. Our only major juniors are Aldrich, Morningstar- a defensive and 3 point specialist, and Reed- a 3 point specialist. The rest of our rotation includes 3 sophomores (Morris twins and Taylor) and Xavier Henry.

Xavier Henry is our first one and done- it's not like we make a living off of them. Self saw that Collins and Aldrich came back and he would only get them one more year so he took one chance on one player. I've made the point a couple of times this year- our biggest weakness is that we could use one more really good upperclassman (I can dig them up if you'd really like). But you can't just manufacture that so he goes and snags a blue chip in Henry.

Yeah, we had what people thought was a fairly veteran rotation these days but we still knew it was young. You just can't fix that overnight. But it's not like we went out and signed a bunch of one-and-dones. A lot of the players in our rotation are glue guys- not top 5 at their position 5 star recruits but they fill distinct roles. We were hardly a team that went out to be built around stars but that's what Self had coming into this year so he had to go with what he had.

SI

[Matthean]

Interesting article by Pat Forde on NIU.

Northern Iowa belongs. And some name team is going to find that out the hard way.

Pat Forde: The Northern Iowa Panthers are primed to make a run in the NCAA tournament after winning the Missouri Valley Conference title - ESPN (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/columns/story?columnist=forde_pat&id=4974228)
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[Galaril]

Time of death of Fozzie's bracket: 6:00 PM Saturday.

But I don't give a damn. Wow. What a crazy crazy thursday and saturday bracket.

Yeah I here ya. I was 24 of 32 in the first round but have gone o 1of 6 today gah!

[MrBug708]

Washington is very streaky. Romar is an above average coach, but his team has fire power from the guards

[panerd]

We're supposed to be already out of this thing already. It's just gravy now. No need to shy away from that. If we win tomorrow, it will mark two straight years we've advanced further than Kansas. Wouldn't be bad at all.

Yeah the last two days have been incredible. Its funny how much more I enjoyed last year's tournament and the Bucknell year than other tournaments. I am sure a KU fan could make a joke about that now but Mizzou is still in this thing. :)

[panerd]

Interesting article by Pat Forde on NIU.



Pat Forde: The Northern Iowa Panthers are primed to make a run in the NCAA tournament after winning the Missouri Valley Conference title - ESPN (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/columns/story?columnist=forde_pat&id=4974228)
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I am sure you can find of the those for every team that is left in the tournament right now. Butler, Wake Forest, Cornell, Mizzou.

[SirFozzie]

Yeah I here ya. I was 24 of 32 in the first round but have gone o 1of 6 today gah!

heh. I was ok after the first two days.. lost Georgetown from my Elite Eight but then again, just about everybody lost Georgetown from at least the Sweet 16..

Then Nova and Kansas (two final four teams) bit the dust today. Most years I would have multiple brackets to at least follow, but this was my one and only this year.

[cartman]

I am sure you can find of the those for every team that is left in the tournament right now. Butler, Wake Forest, Cornell, Mizzou.

I Googled it, but didn't find any articles about Mizzou being primed for a tourney run after getting blown out by Nebraska in the conference tourney. :)

[sterlingice]

Agree and sorry I was paying attention to the thread earlier. I see now that you are a Jayhawks fan. I did not know that. Sorry for the loss Kansas had a great season and to be honest all ribbing aside NI was just hot and lucky like George Mason acouple of years ago. Whoever meets these guys next whether it be Michigan St. or Maryland better not take them lightly.

Alumnus, actually- so I have a bit invested in them (Student loans paid off last year, tho! Suck it, Nelnet!) and Lord knows I'm going to be overly sensitive the next 24 hours about this as it just feels crappy. I really would have been happy with a Final Four trip this year as I think that's a huge accomplishment but it was not to be. I loved that feeling in 2008 but it looks like another team gets to feel that this year. I'd really like it to be a team that hasn't had great success in a while as the fans will value it more- again, why I'd love to see Baylor or Kansas State do well. Hell, maybe even Mizzou ;)

I'll definitely be rooting for UNI going forward as I would have liked to have all along (wife is from Iowa). I just wish we would have been there to root for, too.

Also, like we've been saying (meanstrosity, another big KU fan here)- I don't think they got lucky. They imposed their will on us and beat us. To claim it was lucky cheapens it, I think. They went out there and just gave us a good ass kicking.

SI

[Noop]

I Googled it, but didn't find any articles about Mizzou being primed for a tourney run after getting blown out by Nebraska in the conference tourney. :)

BURN!!!!!!!!!!!

[panerd]

I Googled it, but didn't find any articles about Mizzou being primed for a tourney run after getting blown out by Nebraska in the conference tourney. :)

Missouri's coach has some insight on West Virginia - STLtoday.com (http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/mizzou/story/DEF957662DA2E078862576EC000BA643?OpenDocument)

I am sure you could find 10 in all of the local Missouri papers. I was just talking about fluff pieces that will only look good with 20/20 hindsight.

[panerd]

BURN!!!!!!!!!!!

OK? He's a Texas fan. I think they are still looking for those 8 points that Wake stole from them in overtime the other night. And if I not mistaken you are either Florida or Florida State. Either case your team laid an egg. Mizzou on the other hand will be one of 24 teams going for the 2010 National Championship.

[sterlingice]

Oh, man, c'mon K-State! The computers loved BYU so I knew this was going to be a rough game, but they need to get it in gear.

SI

[cartman]

Missouri's coach has some insight on West Virginia - STLtoday.com (http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/mizzou/story/DEF957662DA2E078862576EC000BA643?OpenDocument)

I am sure you could find 10 in all of the local Missouri papers. I was just talking about fluff pieces that will only look good with 20/20 hindsight.

You of course realize the difference in an article written a week before the tourney began and ones written after the first set of games played.

[RainMaker]

Interesting article by Pat Forde on NIU.

Yeah, NIU is a really strong team. I think they kind of fucked Kansas by having them as a 9 seed (they should have been a 4 or 5). Same goes for Syracuse who has to play a Gonzaga seed that has no business being an 8 seed.

The top seeds in each bracket seem to have gotten the shaft with the exception of Duke.

[Blade6119]

We're supposed to be already out of this thing already. It's just gravy now. No need to shy away from that. If we win tomorrow, it will mark two straight years we've advanced further than Kansas. Wouldn't be bad at all.

Mizzou was not supposed to make the tournament this year, Kansas was supposed to win the title, and worst case scenario we both go out in the second round of the tourney. No matter how you spin that, Mizzou wins :D

[Young Drachma]

For the masses:

UNI = University of Northern Iowa
NIU = Northern Illinois University.

Carry on.

[whomario]

Madness continues, BYU up 10-0 early :) Fredette draws a ton of attention, actually does look similar to Curry´s situation at Davidson after Jason Richards graduated.

[panerd]

You of course realize the difference in an article written a week before the tourney began and ones written after the first set of games played.


I am just saying there are a million fluff pieces out there about every angle of this tournament. I don't remember even phrasing my response as a debate with whoever put it just more of a post that writers like Forde will play an angle like this for every big sporting event and sometimes it will hit and sometimes it will miss.

Michigan Wolverines, Rich Rodriguez eager for chance to make everyone forget 2008 - ESPN (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=forde_pat&id=4360619&sportCat=ncf)

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

I Googled it, but didn't find any articles about Mizzou being primed for a tourney run after getting blown out by Nebraska in the conference tourney. :)

Did you google to read up on what it's like to make the second round of the NCAA tournament or how long it's been since Texas beat Mizzou?

Me neither. I already know about both topics quite well.

[gstelmack]

It's become pretty obvious that both networks are trying to drive as many viewers as possible to their online feeds

I'd love this, if they'd make them available through Hulu or something for easy streaming through my Xbox360 or Sony Blu-Ray player so I can watch them full-size on my TV. Alas, they aren't there yet with live sports...

[cartman]

Did you google to read up on what it's like to make the second round of the NCAA tournament or how long it's been since Texas beat Mizzou?

Me neither.

I still remember the 2003 Final Four, as well as the 2006 and 2008 trips to the Elite Eight.

[sterlingice]

There we go- KSU starting to get back into the game

SI

[Matthean]

I am sure you can find of the those for every team that is left in the tournament right now. Butler, Wake Forest, Cornell, Mizzou.

Butler beat a 12 and 13 seed, Even if they had to play a four seed, it's not big for a 5 seed to beat them. Mizzou has been covered, but one win in a 7-10 matchup isn't much of a story. Cornell pulled off the upset, but it was one game and it's the infamous 5-12 matchup. Wake merely won a 8-9 matchup by a point.

Missouri's coach has some insight on West Virginia - STLtoday.com (http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/mizzou/story/DEF957662DA2E078862576EC000BA643?OpenDocument)

Because Mizzou has actually beaten WVU?

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[sterlingice]

I still remember the 2003 Final Four.

I'll never understand fans who delight more in the torment of their rivals than actually enjoy their own success.

SI

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Mizzou was not supposed to make the tournament this year, Kansas was supposed to win the title, and worst case scenario we both go out in the second round of the tourney. No matter how you spin that, Mizzou wins :D

I've got the thought that we would have a 10 vs. 11 matchup in the Sweet 16 if we can just find a way past WVU. Judging from what I've seen from Washington and their athletes, that would be another fun matchup to watch.

[panerd]

Did you google to read up on what it's like to make the second round of the NCAA tournament or how long it's been since Texas beat Mizzou?

Me neither. I already know about both topics quite well.

10 years from now...

Texas fan #1: "Remember the tournament game where we were up 8 against Wake Forest and they came back to win?"

Texas fan #2: "Sort of. Was that the Tim Duncan era?"

Texas fan #1: "No but Wake Forest was 19-10 that year!"

[Noop]

OK? He's a Texas fan. I think they are still looking for those 8 points that Wake stole from them in overtime the other night. And if I not mistaken you are either Florida or Florida State. Either case your team laid an egg. Mizzou on the other hand will be one of 24 teams going for the 2010 National Championship.

Why are you acting all butt hurt?

[cartman]

I'll never understand fans who delight more in the torment of their rivals than actually enjoy their own success.

SI

It is usually because their successes are few and far between.

[panerd]

Butler beat a 12 and 13 seed, Even if they had to play a four seed, it's not big for a 5 seed to beat them. Mizzou has been covered, but one win in a 7-10 matchup isn't much of a story. Cornell pulled off the upset, but it was one game and it's the infamous 5-12 matchup. Wake merely won a 8-9 matchup by a point.



Because Mizzou has actually beaten WVU?

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No idea what you are debating about. To my knowledge I have no difference of opinion with you, do I?

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

I'll never understand fans who delight more in the torment of their rivals than actually enjoy their own success.

SI

Which is a silly comment and something that beakers roll out every time their Final Four team falls flat on its face. No one delights more in the torment of their rivals than the success of their own team. It's a ridiculous and faulty assertion.

[Matthean]

I am just saying there are a million fluff pieces out there about every angle of this tournament. I don't remember even phrasing my response as a debate with whoever put it just more of a post that writers like Forde will play an angle like this for every big sporting event and sometimes it will hit and sometimes it will miss.

Michigan Wolverines, Rich Rodriguez eager for chance to make everyone forget 2008 - ESPN (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=forde_pat&id=4360619&sportCat=ncf)

Not even close to the same kind of article I posted. Really, you're just failing at this.

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[panerd]

Why are you acting all butt hurt?

That makes sense.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

It is usually because their successes are few and far between.

You'd be the expert in that department.

[Noop]

That makes sense.

You decided to talk shit about my team when I have said nothing about your team. You're acting like my comment sodomized you without your permission, hence you being butt hurt.

[panerd]

You'd be the expert in that department.

They made it one round farthur than our team in the NCAA tournament. You see we have made an elite 8 and they have made a final 4. So one more round signifies a better team historically. I guess we must be a better team than Texas this year in basketball?

[cartman]

You'd be the expert in that department.

Yes, Texas athletics are regarded as unsuccessful. :rolleyes:

[Blade6119]

Mizzou, Panerd, as a fellow Mizzou fan listen to me when I say enjoy the KU win and Mizzou's remaining time in the tourney. You both seem to have your claws out and im not quite sure why, the past 2-3 days have been great as Mizzou fans(including our female gymnast being crowned #1 in the nation and Max Askren wrestling for a national title today)

[Noop]

You know what has claws? Besides a crab a pussycat.... just saying.

[panerd]

Mizzou, Panerd, as a fellow Mizzou fan listen to me when I say enjoy the KU win and Mizzou's remaining time in the tourney. You both seem to have your claws out and im not quite sure why, the past 2-3 days have been great as Mizzou fans(including our female gymnast being crowned #1 in the nation and Max Askren wrestling for a national title today)

Nah. I enjoy KU losing and just don't understand how you can attack someone for celebrating when your team just got knocked out of the tournament two nights ago. I will disengage as I am sure this pisses off everyone else.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Yes, Texas athletics are regarded as unsuccessful. :rolleyes:

At least you're finally making some sense, although anyone and their uncle can tell you're ready to roll out Colt McCoy in a basketball thread.

Face it. If Mizzou basketball is suck as you imply, Texas basketball is suck plus.

[HeavyReign]

Go Mizzou. I'd take another game like last time Wash went up against Mike Anderson in the tourney.

UAB Blazers vs. Washington Huskies - Recap - March 19, 2004 - ESPN (http://football.espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=244000048)

[sterlingice]

It is usually because their successes are few and far between.

I kindof get that but not entirely.

Do I like when someone other than the Yankees wins the World Series? Sure. But it doesn't really give me a lot of warm fuzzies. I mean, if the team that wins has a good story (say, Colorado making the World Series, for instance)- I'm happy for them. But I don't get a lot of pleasure from seeing a team I don't like lose. I got a lot more from the Royals 83-81 season (and we're not exactly talking about a high bar here) than I ever would from the Yankees or Red Sox losing.

And god forbid there be something completely insane and unexpected like our 12-1 football season or winning the national title after being down 7 with under 2 to go. I could live off sports memories like that forever :)

SI

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Mizzou, Panerd, as a fellow Mizzou fan listen to me when I say enjoy the KU win and Mizzou's remaining time in the tourney. You both seem to have your claws out and im not quite sure why, the past 2-3 days have been great as Mizzou fans(including our female gymnast being crowned #1 in the nation and Max Askren wrestling for a national title today)

KU won?

Right now, I'm just focusing on getting KSU a win. I'd like to see the rest of the Big 12 teams continue to advance, though it seems that being a high seed doesn't mean much in this tourney.

[RainMaker]

(including our female gymnast being crowned #1 in the nation
Damn, she's been hitting the sled.
http://www.columbiamissourian.com/media/multimedia/2009/02/13/media/021309_MUGymnastic_Shire2_2_t_w600_h600.jpg

[mauchow]

BYU's defense is pretty good. They're offense leaves something to be desired most of the time though.

And Go Wake Forest!

[panerd]

I kindof get that but not entirely.

Do I like when someone other than the Yankees wins the World Series? Sure. But it doesn't really give me a lot of warm fuzzies. I mean, if the team that wins has a good story (say, Colorado making the World Series, for instance)- I'm happy for them. But I don't get a lot of pleasure from seeing a team I don't like lose. I got a lot more from the Royals 83-81 season (and we're not exactly talking about a high bar here) than I ever would from the Yankees or Red Sox losing.

And god forbid there be something completely insane and unexpected like our 12-1 football season or winning the national title after being down 7 with under 2 to go. I could live off sports memories like that forever :)

SI


Face it. Cartman will be in this thread the minute Mizzou loses (either tomorrow or if they do pull out the win later in the week). He will claim it is because of me or MBBF when in reality and it is the exact same reason we were happy today. A team lost that we don't care for.

[cartman]

At least you're finally making some sense, although anyone and their uncle can tell you're ready to roll out Colt McCoy in a basketball thread.

Face it. If Mizzou basketball is suck as you imply, Texas basketball is suck plus.

Where have I implied that? I simply countered panerd's claim that prior to the tourney that a team like Mizzou had articles written that projected a deep tourney run. You and he are so thin skinned regarding Mizzou you take it as a personal affront any time anyone doesn't share your view of the team.

[sterlingice]

the past 2-3 days have been great as Mizzou fans(including our female gymnast being crowned #1 in the nation and Max Askren wrestling for a national title today)

Where do they have national title competitions for gymnastics anyways?

Let me guess? He was wrestling someone from Iowa, right (because if it's wrestling, it pretty much has to be Iowa)? ;)

SI

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Damn, she's been hitting the sled.
http://www.columbiamissourian.com/media/multimedia/2009/02/13/media/021309_MUGymnastic_Shire2_2_t_w600_h600.jpg

Forget walnuts. She could crack open watermelons with those things. God bless her.

[Noop]

Where have I implied that? I simply countered panerd's claim that prior to the tourney that a team like Mizzou had articles written that projected a deep tourney run. You and he are so thin skinned regarding Mizzou you take it as a personal affront any time anyone doesn't share your view of the team.

+1

[mauchow]

BYU's defense is pretty good. They're offense leaves something to be desired most of the time though.

And Go Wake Forest!

They certainly are doing plenty on offense right now though, but I think that's more KSU's defense.. but maybe I'm wrong.

[sterlingice]

This is going to make going in for work in about an hour that much more unpleasant. Now I have 7 hours to stew on what could have been instead of just heading to sleep :(

SI

[sterlingice]

Forget walnuts. She could crack open watermelons with those things. God bless her.

:D

SI

[Noop]

Damn, she's been hitting the sled.
http://www.columbiamissourian.com/media/multimedia/2009/02/13/media/021309_MUGymnastic_Shire2_2_t_w600_h600.jpg

She never skips breakfast.................................................................................
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Lunch



Or Dinner.

[terpkristin]

Scores? Especially the Wake game (cheering for ACC teams).

/tk

[sterlingice]

24-19 Kentucky
25-19 BYU

Are you on Gmail (tonight, I mean)?

SI

[terpkristin]

24-19 Kentucky
25-19 BYU

Are you on Gmail (tonight, I mean)?

SI

At the moment, no. Looks like I might get out of here in 30 minutes, if this test goes well, so then I'll be back home.

Thanks.

/tk

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

:D

SI

We need to start a 'hit it' thread. I think she'd get more affirmative responses than not.

[Noop]

Normally I root for the ACC when they are not playing Florida State but go Wildcats. John Wall is like a dream come true at point guard.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Normally I root for the ACC when they are not playing Florida State but go Wildcats. John Wall is like a dream come true at point guard.

You'd be the only one holding that thought outside of Wildcat Nation.

[Noop]

You'd be the only one holding that thought outside of Wildcat Nation.

Your hate is palatable.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

KSU really tightening it up on defense now. Looking more like their normal self.

[JonInMiddleGA]

No one delights more in the torment of their rivals than the success of their own team. It's a ridiculous and faulty assertion.

Umm ... wrong on both counts.

With the exception of the football national championship, no successful moment in Georgia Tech sports has ever exceeded (and rarely approached) the elation I get from watching UGA lose.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Your hate is palatable.

We had this discussion with several people earlier in this thread. Wall is very immature and Cousins is a thug on the floor. I suppose some may excuse that kids that age act that way, but I think they should know better by then.

[sterlingice]

KSU really tightening it up on defense now. Looking more like their normal self.

Agreed and it's no coincidence that the KSU-BYU game is now tied at 25 with 5:24 to go (for tk)

KY is up 6 with about 6 to go.

SI

[gstelmack]

I'll never understand fans who delight more in the torment of their rivals than actually enjoy their own success.

SI

I believe this has far more to do with delighting in the torment of a specific fan rather than torment of rivals.

[Noop]

How many people on average are mature at 19, 20 or 35?

[JonInMiddleGA]

Your hate is palatable.

Shouldn't that be palpable?

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

How many people on average are mature at 19, 20 or 35?

Not nearly enough unfortunately. I guess it's asking too much to raise the bar in this day and age.

[Noop]

Shouldn't that be palpable?

You might be right, I am too high to care though.

[the_meanstrosity]

Yeah, NIU is a really strong team. I think they kind of fucked Kansas by having them as a 9 seed (they should have been a 4 or 5). Same goes for Syracuse who has to play a Gonzaga seed that has no business being an 8 seed.

The top seeds in each bracket seem to have gotten the shaft with the exception of Duke.

In the end the seedings honestly don't matter. If you want to win a national title you're eventually going to face a team or two that makes your squad struggle for every possession.

[sterlingice]

Shouldn't that be palpable?

Who knows? Maybe it's tasty :D

SI

[Noop]

Not nearly enough unfortunately. I guess it's asking too much to raise the bar in this day and age.

Right and it is definitely not going to happen first with a college freshman who is about to be a millionaire.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

You might be right, I am too high to care though.

The truth finally emerges.

:D

[sterlingice]

In the end the seedings honestly don't matter. If you want to win a national title you're eventually going to face a team or two that makes your squad struggle for every possession.

Agreed, but that path is a lot easier if you only have to face 3 of those instead of 5, for instance.

SI

[JonInMiddleGA]

You might be right, I am too high to care though.

Oh da irony ... or whatever literary description is more appropriate.

How many people on average are mature at 19, 20 or 35?

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Oh da irony ... or whatever literary description is more appropriate.

I'm guessing he was the '35' referenced in his post.

[the_meanstrosity]

We had this discussion with several people earlier in this thread. Wall is very immature and Cousins is a thug on the floor. I suppose some may excuse that kids that age act that way, but I think they should know better by then.

I'm not excusing Wall or Cousins, but there are far worse things they could be doing than being immature at their age.

[Noop]

Oh da irony ... or whatever literary description is more appropriate.

I never once claimed to be mature. That being said I don't believe smoking weed makes me immature. However that is a discussion for another day.

[the_meanstrosity]

Agreed, but that path is a lot easier if you only have to face 3 of those instead of 5, for instance.

SI

Certainly, but in the end it doesn't really matter if you lost in the first round or the finals. Ok, that's not exactly true given the fame of the Final Four but you get my meaning. Only one team can win it and thus every team has to beat multiple quality teams to do so.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

I'm not excusing Wall or Cousins, but there are far worse things they could be doing than being immature at their age.

The level of immaturity they display is a big warning sign for future behavior, regardless of whether they are rewarded with multi-million dollar contracts or never become professional players. These guys are a time bomb from a personal responsibility standpoint, especially Cousins with his aggressive behavior.

[Noop]

I'm guessing he was the '35' referenced in his post.

LOL. I am far from 35.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

I never once claimed to be mature. That being said I don't believe smoking weed makes me immature. However that is a discussion for another day.

For the record, I'm in favor of legalizing marijuana. However, it should be noted that my main reason is to allow natural selection to take place at an accelerated pace.

[mauchow]

Boneheaded play by Miles... BYU is going to be BYE-BYE pretty soon.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Go KSU! 22-4 run and most of it was defense-triggered.

[Noop]

For the record, I'm in favor of legalizing marijuana. However, it should be noted that my main reason is to allow natural selection to take place at an accelerated pace.

Lets see... high = not so stress. Sober = A heart attack or stroke away from death. Pass the blunt homie!


:D

[sterlingice]

Yeah, KSU is looking more like themselves now. They're up 38-29 with under 2 to go. Kentucky may have finished their game off already. They're up 44-28 at the half.

SI

[JonInMiddleGA]

On the women's side I see where #13 UTC had an 18 point halftime lead over #4 seed Okl State. That margin is down to 12 with still 18 minutes to go.

[BYU 14]

Boneheaded play by Miles... BYU is going to be BYE-BYE pretty soon.

We are in meltdown mode right now...our three top inside guys with 3 fouls each, it's going to get ugly.

[mauchow]

Bummer.. Guess I can watch the Kentucky game.

[the_meanstrosity]

The level of immaturity they display is a big warning sign for future behavior, regardless of whether they are rewarded with multi-million dollar contracts or never become professional players. These guys are a time bomb from a personal responsibility standpoint, especially Cousins with his aggressive behavior.

Not necessarily. I've seen a number of freshmen who act like imbeciles as freshmen and mature after a season or two. Obviously not everyone matures at the same rate, but I don't think either of those two are a lost cause.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Best news for BYU...........halftime finally arrived and they're only down 10.

[mauchow]

I don't think it's going to count, unfortunately.. that wouldhave been a little bit of a boost going into the lockerroom.

[sterlingice]

Frank Martin is wound so tight. He looks like he should be a CEO almost moreso than a basketball coach.

SI

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Not necessarily. I've seen a number of freshmen who act like imbeciles as freshmen and mature after a season or two. Obviously not everyone matures at the same rate, but I don't think either of those two are a lost cause.

There's a lot of psych professionals that would give you odds on that assessment in a hurry.

[mauchow]

Damn. What am I going to do for the rest of the night? I guess I can study for a test I've got on Monday.. first test in like 5 years.

[sterlingice]

Damn. What am I going to do for the rest of the night? I guess I can study for a test I've got on Monday.. first test in like 5 years.

What's it in?

SI

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Damn. What am I going to do for the rest of the night? I guess I can study for a test I've got on Monday.. first test in like 5 years.

You've got all day Sunday. Head over to Noop's and relax.

[Swaggs]

I can't believe anyone would root for Kentucky or a Calipari-coached team, outside of their own fans. After seeing the ESPN or CBS "fluff" piece on the freshmen and Calipari, that was on a little bit ago, I cannot think of a team I would rather not win it all (and that includes Pitt, Georgetown, Marquette, or Notre Dame).

Not to mention that, if they do win, there is probably a greater than 50% chance that their title will be vacated in the near future -- which pretty much renders the whole tournament useless.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Not to mention that, if they do win, there is probably a greater than 50% chance that their title will be vacated in the near future -- which pretty much renders the whole tournament useless.

Memphis already paid for his sins. He's got another 2-3 years before he has to run to another job.

[JonInMiddleGA]

You think it's bad now, just wait until Cal manages to convince Wall that he should stick around another year & avoid taking the pay cut of the NBA.

[TargetPractice6]

Coming from a Kentucky fan I doubt anyone will believe this, but Cousins has come a long way attitude-wise over the course of the season. At the beginning of this season I thought he would definitely do something stupid and cost us a game somewhere along the line. However, each game he's gotten better and better about not letting other teams get in his head (and virtually every team tries to... Tennessee going as far as taking nut-shots at him). He's still far from mature though. It's most evident from the free throw stripe: if he misses one or two he totally loses his composure and ends up shooting something like 3-13.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Coming from a Kentucky fan I doubt anyone will believe this, but Cousins has come a long way attitude-wise over the course of the season. At the beginning of this season I thought he would definitely do something stupid and cost us a game somewhere along the line. However, each game he's gotten better and better about not letting other teams get in his head (and virtually every team tries to... Tennessee going as far as taking nut-shots at him). He's still far from mature though. It's most evident from the free throw stripe: if he misses one or two he totally loses his composure and ends up shooting something like 3-13.

I actually believe that. Mizzou was involved in his recruitment and I know how raw he was before. As you said though, he's still very raw even with improvement.

[Blade6119]

Fun fact about Mizzou, the Tigers are one of three teams — Syracuse and Marquette are the others — to return to the NCAA Tournament after losing three 1,000-point scorers last season.

[JonInMiddleGA]

(and virtually every team tries to... Tennessee going as far as taking nut-shots at him).

As was pointed out after that game, the shot was the culmination of dealing with what UK does (and typically gets away with) on every possession.

The only thing missing from the UK game with conference officials is them bringing 9 mm onto the floor with them, and pretty much everyone in the league expects that to be allowed if they happen to think of it.

[terpkristin]

Woohoo, get to leave work now, hopefully I'll see the end of the last games. Thanks for the score updates, folks!

/tk

[TargetPractice6]

Yeah, Jon it's the refs' fault Tennessee lost by 30 and that totally excuses hitting a dude in the nuts. Cousins gets pounded on every single game and all the other SEC fans just want to whine about how their team is getting screwed by the refs. At least, Tennessee fans didn't throw water bottles at them I guess.

[mauchow]

What's it in?

SI

Property/Casualty, Credit Life insurance. I'm in consumer finance and we sell insurance products on our loans... since I am opening up a branch I have to be licensed now. Yipee!

[Swaggs]

Haha... I just saw a video of WVU's players watching the end of the Kansas game and they had much the same reaction that the folks in this thread had. :)

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

LOL.......I just realized why Northern Iowa had such a loud crowd. KSU was playing in the same session as KU. Was too busy taking care of my kids to notice that until now.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Yeah, Jon it's the refs' fault Tennessee lost by 30 and that totally excuses hitting a dude in the nuts. Cousins gets pounded on every single game and all the other SEC fans just want to whine about how their team is getting screwed by the refs. At least, Tennessee fans didn't throw water bottles at them I guess.

In complete sincerity, I'm consistently amazed that SEC fans in 11 arenas haven't at the very least dragged basketball refs off the floor and tarred & feathered them. I'm almost as surprised someone hasn't at least tried to assasinate Calipari.

[mauchow]

Watching Kentucky just absolutely demolish Wake has me as a Badger fan kind of pumped(assuming the Badgers win tomorrow). Kentucky is going to be riding the high train going into the Sweet 16 game and may be in for a major letdown.

[JonInMiddleGA]

LOL.......I just realized why Northern Iowa had such a loud crowd. KSU was playing in the same session as KU. Was too busy taking care of my kids to notice that until now.

I hadn't even thought about that.

[TargetPractice6]

In complete sincerity, I'm consistently amazed that SEC fans in 11 arenas haven't at the very least dragged basketball refs off the floor and tarred & feathered them. I'm almost as surprised someone hasn't at least tried to assasinate Calipari.Yeah, I guess SEC fans really just don't care about basketball if they aren't willing to kill an opposing coach. Way to perpetuate the football-only stereotype guys! ;)

[sterlingice]

(To say nothing of the "tar and feather over sports" we're-from-the-south stereotype?)

SI

[TargetPractice6]

McFarland with another classic example of what Cousins has faced all year...

[timmynausea]

You'd think that eventually BYU would guard the perimeter a bit.

[RainMaker]

In complete sincerity, I'm consistently amazed that SEC fans in 11 arenas haven't at the very least dragged basketball refs off the floor and tarred & feathered them. I'm almost as surprised someone hasn't at least tried to assasinate Calipari.
Yes, SEC fans need to show the country even more how empty their lives are.

http://matty03.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/big_fan.jpg

[terpkristin]

Yikes, I see Kentucky really widened the gap with Wake.

/tk

[dawgfan]

Washington is very streaky. Romar is an above average coach, but his team has fire power from the guards
Huskies seem to have found themselves over the last 10+ games or so. It took them a while, but they seem to be playing like the team many thought they could be at the beginning of the season. There were some close to the program that thought this group had Final Four potential. That looked way overoptimistic midway through the Pac-10 season, but it's not quite as far-fetched now.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

BYU really hasn't cut into that 10 point gap too much, but still a fun game to watch.

[Radii]

McFarland with another classic example of what Cousins has faced all year...

You have to expect this though right? You have a kid who looks like he's ready to explode at any minute, with the perception that you can take him off his game and get him scowling and worrying more about things that have nothing to do with the game, you're going to play him rough. Its up to Cousins to man up and show he's above it before it'd be reasonable not to beat the crap out of him.

[mauchow]

BYU needed a stop there and instead KSU goes to the free throw line. 5 to go and BYU down 9.

[TargetPractice6]

You have to expect this though right? You have a kid who looks like he's ready to explode at any minute, with the perception that you can take him off his game and get him scowling and worrying more about things that have nothing to do with the game, you're going to play him rough. Its up to Cousins to man up and show he's above it before it'd be reasonable not to beat the crap out of him.It's definitely expected by now, but it hasn't worked for anyone yet. Even in Kentucky's two losses Cousins still went for 27 points / 12 rebounds and 15 points / 14 rebounds.

I'm just saying it's ridiculous for opposing fans (and coaches, I think Rick Stansbury is still crying) to whine about refereeing when their team's gameplan revolves around hacking and taunting Cousins in the effort to make him blow his top.

[Big Fo]

(Big Fan movie poster)

I hadn't heard of this movie. I looked it up on Wikipedia and IMDB and it seemed like it might be pretty good so I added it to my Netflix queue.

[Lathum]

Damn, Washington is serious.

Yes we are, peaking at the right time.

[Radii]

I'm just saying it's ridiculous for opposing fans (and coaches, I think Rick Stansbury is still crying) to whine about refereeing when their team's gameplan revolves around hacking and taunting Cousins in the effort to make him blow his top.

Oh I missed where you were going with that then. Yeah, totally agree!

[Lathum]

I'm not excusing Wall or Cousins, but there are far worse things they could be doing than being immature at their age.

Exactly.

To many people expect these kids to act like pros. They are 18. I did a lot of stupid shit when I was 18.

[sooner333]

WOW...the UNI-KU game was a pretty awesome game to be at. It was just so intense from possession to possession because you knew UNI had to play top-notch and you knew KU would come back. It was just great. Being on the line (mid-section) between the regular seats and the UNI section was great too. You could really see what it meant to their fans for them to win the game. I bet St. Louis is purple as can be next weekend.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Yeah, I guess SEC fans really just don't care about basketball if they aren't willing to kill an opposing coach. Way to perpetuate the football-only stereotype guys! ;)

I was actually referring more to the hatred for UK & how I'm a little surprised it hasn't reached that point yet.

As for the worst officials in the history of officialdom, I'm genuinely
surprised that they haven't been dragged away never to be seen again on a fairly regular basis.

[Lathum]

Anyone know where the times for Thursdays games are listed?

[sterlingice]

NCAA.com has them all as TBA currently.

SI

[Karlifornia]

For the record, I'm in favor of legalizing marijuana. However, it should be noted that my main reason is to allow natural selection to take place at an accelerated pace.

I never thought I would share a message board with the person who wrote the script for "Reefer Madness".


Booze causes more deaths in a single day than weed causes in 100 years.