View Full Version : Island of Misfit Toys, Take 6.3 - and an invitation to join in
QuikSand
04-25-2010, 03:50 PM
It's been quite a while since I played an IMT career, and a good deal has changed since I did so. I also have fallen pretty well behind the curve in terms of gameplanning, but from what I hear the more recent FOF game is more welcoming of the concept of "plan around your talent" that seems fairly attractive to me for this sort of thing. Anyway, I'm thinking about giving it a whirl.
Anyhow, I have set up an empty cupboard career -- playing in the Solecismized NFL, a QuikSim through 2009, and starting right after the 2010 draft with the empty-roster Buffalo Bills.
I am intrigued enough by this idea that I thought I'd post the game files, and see if anyone else might be interested in playing along. I honestly don't know what pace I might be able to keep... but we'll see what happens.
Anyway... if you're interested in a different take on FOF, doing some different evaluation of players (a lower grade of guys than you're probably used to), and maybe some collaboration or at least discussion, I'd welcome you to download the files here (http://www.sevenshuffles.com/QuikSand/imtbills.zip), and offer your thoughts on what to do from here. I can volunteer that historically, in my IMT careers, the first year tends to put in place an awful lot of guys who stick around for a decade (usually for lack of preferred alternatives) - so year one tends to be pretty important.
If you'd rather just look in and comment, that's fine too, of course. I haven't had a ton of FOF time of late, and it's my hope that I can maybe learn a bit more about the new game with this effort.
QuikSand
04-25-2010, 04:02 PM
Oh, for the uninitiated, the Island of Misfit Toys concept is to build a team completely around undrafted rookie free agents. No player will join this team other than as a rookie who went undrafted. As you might imagine, I have turned off GM firing for this career, as this is usually a pretty long haul toward respectability. In previous versions, I have won titles with IMT teams, but if often felt much more like an exercise in happenstance... landing a creeper or six at the right positions was the real way to get somewhere. That may still be the case, but one thing I always find in these IMT careers is that I learn something about the lower-level players -- especially since many of them are getting tons of playing time, unlike on a more conventional team. So, in case you were wondering what the concept is -- there you have it.
A few previous attempts at (or discussion of) the same concept:
FOF 2004 - Return to the Island of Misfit Toys - Front Office Football Central (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=28962)
FOF4 - Island of Misfit Toys - Front Office Football Central (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=8764)
QuikSand
04-25-2010, 04:21 PM
Before I let the thought get away, I will plant a seed right away. Before I exited the draft screen, I sorted the remaining QB by Solecismic test score, expecting just to note the top handful of guys so I could go look them up -- as I fully expect this team to be a "try not to lose the game" style, at least initially. Anyway, the top of the heap was this guy...who turns out to have four blue combines to go along with that 38 test score.
http://www.sevenshuffles.com/QuikSand/qbwisniewski.jpg
So, left to my own devices... I'd probably say that this guy was a lock to creep at least a bit in camp, and I would be thinking he's the very likely opening day starter. I suspect most of those zero-looking bars are phony, but I haven't given thought to what he might eventually look like, based on those combines. He does have pretty reasonable sense rush skills (a true rating) so it's at least possible to be thinking about an offensive line with mostly run-blocking skills.
Just a quick thought...
QuikSand
04-25-2010, 06:47 PM
Okay... let's see if we can start off with another "maybe you didn't know this" tidbit. Did you know that after the draft, your scout actually sees the current and future ratings, bar-by-bar, of every rookie? All *we* see is the blue (or orange) bars projecting some sort of distorted future projection... but the scout already sees what he thinks is really going on. Now, how do we get him to cough up some of that information?
Work with me here...
Do a Recommend of free agents, seasons 1 to 2, sorted by Current Special Teams rating. Actually, this will likely yield us some useful players anyway - a guy with serious ST skill will always be os at least some use, so why not start building cohesion here and now while we have open tryouts?
Anyway... check out the sorted list. FB Russell Small doesn't have the run blocking I look for in a FB, but he's at least a notch or two above Donaldson's 74 (including the 2nd yr guys is the way to anchor our information here), and that's pretty solid. but that's not really all that exciting -- his blue bar already suggested big potential in ST, so this would have been a target guy for that purpose anyway.
Now, look a few guys further down that sort. What about rookie TE Les Meek? He's sorted here as having a current ST between 63 and 74... but his blue bar is only something like 30-63. Maybe not a shock, but it's at least possible that this guy's "true" ST bar is something like 60/70 right now, and that blue bar is a phony underrating of his actual skill/potential.
This isn't the most jarring example I have ever seen, but it's a useful tool to sort through rookies. When I see a guy who has an *actual* rating that's demonstrably better than his supposed *future* (blue/orange) rating, I figure that guy might be hiding something good, and maybe he's worth a look.
On this team, I reckon both Small and Meek are worth a contract offer.
QuikSand
04-25-2010, 07:15 PM
Curious case in OLB Ray Israelson. He has three bars of note, and they are all pretty good ones if we were to slot him at the weak side of a 3-4 front: PR Tech (68-100), PS Strength (48-78), and Punishing Hitter (63-98).
However, the scout doesn't even pick him up when sorting by current PR Tech, so he's no better than a 9/XX there right now. And that 4.70 dash doesn't really back up the pass rushing skill, either. On a normal team, probably not worth a real look... on this team, probably not mush downside, but I don't think this is a guy worth building our formation around. The 3-4 front might still make more sense, given the likely paucity of the talent we'll see at DL.
QuikSand
04-25-2010, 07:41 PM
A few candidates for chemistry leaders -- one way this team has to get an edge is through chemistry, so landing some high-personality position leaders (with secure leadership ratings) would make sense here. These are the oldest guys we'll ever see on the team, so might as well make it count.
POS Player Group Ldr Prs Rated Notes on Skills
RB Patrick Scott 10-11 98 100 24/35 Not terrible, endurance
LG Roc McClain 1-2 97 100 12/35 Run blocker, 4.07 dash
WR Edward Lee 1-2 96 95 11/28 Looks terrible
RB Harry Maloney 9-10 96 77 19/28 minor ST, 3rd down skills
SS Otis Robinson 3-4 94 93 10/26 some man coverage, KR
DE Lonnie Coffey 11-12 93 86 17/37 PR Tech, endurance
LT Raymond Hoover 10-11 93 81 12/28 Some Bl Str, not much
TE Vernon Manning 1-2 90 98 8/18 some ST
WR Renaldo Nastasi 5-6 90 97 12/22 medium BPR, some others
DE Justin Godfrey 8-9 87 99 15/36 run D, 7.30 Ag, only 260 lbs
RB Gary Michalewicz 1-2 86 83 11/12 nothing to see
CB Gary Kawaguchi 5-6 85 85 11/21 some zone, 45 pos drill
QuikSand
04-25-2010, 07:58 PM
It wouldn't be a ridiculous move to decide to pick up G McClain, WR Lee, and TE Manning as offensive position leaders (we'd have to position switch someone to RB/FB). That way we'd have all three group leader in sync, enabling two things:
1) it's just easier to remember to look for the 9-10 and 12-1 guys, and to avoid the (whoever) guys at all offensive positions
2) we can grab multi-affinity guys at QB who can triple up with that group
QuikSand
04-26-2010, 05:51 AM
FB Small seems to have better current ratings in several areas than his blues would suggest...
Izulde
04-26-2010, 06:03 AM
Intriguing concept to play with though I'd probably be horrible at it, especially since I haven't moved to latest 6.3b version :)
albionmoonlight
04-26-2010, 08:33 AM
Before I let the thought get away, I will plant a seed right away. Before I exited the draft screen, I sorted the remaining QB by Solecismic test score, expecting just to note the top handful of guys so I could go look them up -- as I fully expect this team to be a "try not to lose the game" style, at least initially. Anyway, the top of the heap was this guy...who turns out to have four blue combines to go along with that 38 test score.
http://www.sevenshuffles.com/QuikSand/qbwisniewski.jpg
So, left to my own devices... I'd probably say that this guy was a lock to creep at least a bit in camp, and I would be thinking he's the very likely opening day starter. I suspect most of those zero-looking bars are phony, but I haven't given thought to what he might eventually look like, based on those combines. He does have pretty reasonable sense rush skills (a true rating) so it's at least possible to be thinking about an offensive line with mostly run-blocking skills.
Just a quick thought...
I look forward to reading and following.
And, I know that it is only cosmetic, but I still like to wonder about the backstory of the mildly talented Polish genius from El Paso who ended up playing for N.C. State. Only in America.
QuikSand
04-26-2010, 08:55 AM
And, I know that it is only cosmetic, but I still like to wonder about the backstory of the mildly talented Polish genius from El Paso who ended up playing for N.C. State. Only in America.
ping Izulde
MIJB#19
04-26-2010, 01:47 PM
Probably the obvious cases here, but SLB Todd Linquist looks like an interesting pass rush technique prospect and RCB Keith Buford has interesting man-to-man skills. LCB T.J. Edwards has some interesting skills (interceptions, special teams). Maybe RB Jessie Ogu as a 3rd down RB? WR Jose Rivero has an interesting 40-time and agility combo.
QuikSand
04-26-2010, 02:44 PM
With a quick look at the DB talent available (and knowing a bit about what to expect in any IMT career) I was thinking that maybe the way to go might be to make this a zone-first team, and to look at guys who have good position skill scores from the combine. Sorting rookie DBs by current interception skills yields a handful of guys who look to have decent ability there (always nice) and several safeties with position scores of 40+, supporting at least some combination of zone and interceptions.
QuikSand
04-26-2010, 02:46 PM
Dealing with the limited talent pool that we are... do not forget the ability to switch positions. Many of my long-term IMT starters at CB were former safeties, DE were DT (or LB), and so forth. Some positions are really tough to fill in the customary fashion after the draft, don't forget to think outside the box.
QuikSand
04-26-2010, 06:01 PM
Fair enough... I may have some time tonight or tomorrow morning, and will probably fill in the initial roster using mostly common sense. Anyone mentioned here will certainly get a roster spot. if I notice anything else interesting along the way, I will try to document my thinking as best I can.
I'm thinking that for year one - where the team will stink anyway - I won't worry too much about creating a serious gameplan. We'll just run a big vanilla and see what players might stand out as "build-around" types afterward.
QuikSand
04-27-2010, 05:25 AM
A glance prior to training camp, after a few position switches.
Front Office Football 2007
Buffalo Bills Roster, Scout Overview
Player # Pos Start Exp Current Estimate Future Estimate Cntrct
Capps, Thurman 10 QB 1 11 30 1 yr.
Stephenson, C.J. 7 QB 1 8 40 1 yr.
Bethea, Mark 9 QB 1 7 41 1 yr.
Wisniewski, Tracy 17 QB 1 4 14 1 yr.
Latham, Artie 27 RB 1 31 45 1 yr.
Harmon, Herman 24 RB 1 28 52 1 yr.
Ogu, Jessie 21 RB 1 25 37 1 yr.
Huffman, Andy 47 RB 1 22 45 1 yr.
Small, Russell 40 FB 1 29 37 1 yr.
Brigham, Lorenzo 46 FB 1 22 53 1 yr.
Manning, Vernon 45 FB 1 7 20 1 yr.
Mitting, Isaac 81 TE 1 21 44 1 yr.
Meek, Les 48 TE 1 17 30 1 yr.
Weintraub, Tito 84 TE 1 15 45 1 yr.
McQuilken, Winfred 80 FL 1 22 34 1 yr.
Spencer, O.J. 83 SE 1 19 53 1 yr.
Giles, Carlos 89 SE 1 16 51 1 yr.
Bates, Justin 88 SE 1 15 41 1 yr.
Pulido, Mel 86 SE 1 14 25 1 yr.
Lee, Edward 82 SE 1 11 30 1 yr.
Greene, Ed 53 C 1 21 50 1 yr.
Whalen, Phillip 56 C 1 8 22 1 yr.
Musum, Ryan 67 LG 1 20 28 1 yr.
Rivers, Melvin 73 LG 1 13 38 1 yr.
McLain, Rod 60 LG 1 12 35 1 yr.
Cosgrove, Luther 77 RG 1 18 28 1 yr.
Beyer, Alex 76 LT 1 17 20 1 yr.
Serban, Dennis 70 LT 1 16 41 1 yr.
Holdhusen, Don 68 RT 1 19 54 1 yr.
Mickus, Jose 62 RT 1 15 37 1 yr.
Kitchen, Chester 63 RT 1 11 36 1 yr.
Cothran, Lamont 18 P 1 36 60 1 yr.
Federspiel, Jimmie 4 K 1 31 66 1 yr.
Reeves, Ralph 2 K 1 22 59 1 yr.
White, Lee 97 LDE 1 20 43 1 yr.
Baxter, J.T. 90 LDE 1 18 39 1 yr.
Pallansch, Monty 75 LDE 1 18 36 1 yr.
Sanaee, Bubba 98 RDE 1 21 36 1 yr.
Godfrey, Justin 79 RDE 1 15 38 1 yr.
Ballard, Kendall 96 LDT 1 14 44 1 yr.
Erickson, Michael 94 NT 1 16 50 1 yr.
Rivers, Marvin 58 SILB 1 17 47 1 yr.
Whitfield, Willie 52 SILB 1 13 34 1 yr.
Hanaki, Bert 91 WILB 1 22 44 1 yr.
Beyer, J.J. 93 SLB 1 17 38 1 yr.
Israelson, Ray 54 SLB 1 15 29 1 yr.
Linquist, Todd 55 WLB 1 17 46 1 yr.
Santulli, Ernest 92 WLB 1 10 29 1 yr.
Ford, Lincoln 28 LCB 1 16 62 1 yr.
Edwards, T.J. 25 LCB 1 12 44 1 yr.
Kawaguchi, Gary 33 LCB 1 10 20 1 yr.
Buford, Keith 23 RCB 1 22 52 1 yr.
Blanchard, Allen 20 RCB 1 14 30 1 yr.
Boyd, Kevin 43 SS 1 21 39 1 yr.
Tisdall, Rusty 49 SS 1 10 50 1 yr.
Robinson, Otis 42 SS 1 9 25 1 yr.
Rutter, Quentin 26 FS 1 14 50 1 yr.
$$ - player is suspended, ## - player is inactive,
** = player is injured, %% - player is on IR.
Players Under Contract: 57
Inactive: 0
On Active Roster: 57
Salary Cap: $134,800,000
Cap Room: $67,230,000
Maximum for New Player: $67,550,000
Cap Room Lost (to old contracts): $49,410,000
Cap Room Lost Next Year (to old contracts): $0
Cap Room Required Next Year: $0
QuikSand
04-27-2010, 07:38 AM
Won't be advancing until at least this evening... left the game files (pre-camp) on a thumb drive at home.
One note -- on this team, even a semi-credible SILB would have a shot at Defensive Rookie of the Year with the potential for maybe 120 tackles... but I'm not sure we're going to have anyone worth anything at all at ILB. Rivers looked like the best run stopper in the URFA class, but that's not saying much -- maybe a Run D rating of about 22 or so, I think. Not a big tackler in the secondary either, so I'm guessing we won't see any one guy with eye-popping numbers.
Also, SLB J.J. Beyer look pretty good, but he is impeding the D7 chemistry, so unless he has a great camp, he's likely getting cut.
MalcPow
04-28-2010, 10:10 AM
I really like following these things. I know when I'm looking at scrubs I sort by all the "true" physical ratings to find guys that might have something going on. Go through all the guys with high sense rush, big play receiving, blocking strength, pass rush strength, and punishing hitter. For upfront defenders, a pass rush strength and punishing hitter pairing is usually worth a look. For the DBs, a punishing hitter and another high bump or interception bar can be pretty interesting as well. And I definitely try to dig up an RB with a high breakaway and speed to the outside combo. Those guys have a tendency to creep as well.
QuikSand
04-28-2010, 01:28 PM
Okay, finally had time to run a vanilla training camp with that batch of 57 players. Here's the back end:
Front Office Football 2007
Buffalo Bills Roster, Scout Overview
Player # Pos Start Exp Current Estimate Future Estimate Cntrct
Capps, Thurman 10 QB 1 14 30 1 yr.
Stephenson, C.J. 7 QB 1 11 41 1 yr.
Bethea, Mark 9 QB 1 9 37 1 yr.
Wisniewski, Tracy 17 QB 1 6 19 1 yr.
Latham, Artie 27 RB 1 32 42 1 yr.
Harmon, Herman 24 RB 1 29 47 1 yr.
Ogu, Jessie 21 RB 1 26 35 1 yr.
Huffman, Andy 47 RB 1 21 39 1 yr.
Small, Russell 40 FB 1 31 36 1 yr.
Brigham, Lorenzo 46 FB 1 25 48 1 yr.
Manning, Vernon 45 FB 1 9 20 1 yr.
Mitting, Isaac 81 TE 1 23 40 1 yr.
Meek, Les 48 TE 1 18 28 1 yr.
Weintraub, Tito 84 TE 1 17 39 1 yr.
McQuilken, Winfred 80 FL 1 24 32 1 yr.
Spencer, O.J. 83 SE 1 21 47 1 yr.
Giles, Carlos 89 SE 1 18 44 1 yr.
Bates, Justin 88 SE 1 17 35 1 yr.
Pulido, Mel 86 SE 1 16 26 1 yr.
Lee, Edward 82 SE 1 13 28 1 yr.
Greene, Ed 53 C 1 25 45 1 yr.
Whalen, Phillip 56 C 1 10 23 1 yr.
Musum, Ryan 67 LG 1 24 30 1 yr.
McLain, Rod 60 LG 1 16 35 1 yr.
Rivers, Melvin 73 LG 1 15 34 1 yr.
Cosgrove, Luther 77 RG 1 19 29 1 yr.
Beyer, Alex 76 LT 1 19 22 1 yr.
Serban, Dennis 70 LT 1 18 40 1 yr.
Holdhusen, Don 68 RT 1 21 47 1 yr.
Mickus, Jose 62 RT 1 17 32 1 yr.
Kitchen, Chester 63 RT 1 15 35 1 yr.
Cothran, Lamont 18 P 1 35 52 1 yr.
Federspiel, Jimmie 4 K 1 32 61 1 yr.
Reeves, Ralph 2 K 1 23 61 1 yr.
White, Lee 97 LDE 1 22 42 1 yr.
Pallansch, Monty 75 LDE 1 21 35 1 yr.
Baxter, J.T. 90 LDE 1 19 36 1 yr.
Sanaee, Bubba 98 RDE 1 23 35 1 yr.
Godfrey, Justin 79 RDE 1 18 36 1 yr.
Ballard, Kendall 96 LDT 1 18 42 1 yr.
Erickson, Michael 94 NT 1 16 42 1 yr.
Rivers, Marvin 58 SILB 1 21 43 1 yr.
Whitfield, Willie 52 SILB 1 16 31 1 yr.
Hanaki, Bert 91 WILB 1 25 40 1 yr.
Beyer, J.J. 93 SLB 1 19 35 1 yr.
Israelson, Ray 54 SLB 1 18 35 1 yr.
Linquist, Todd 55 WLB 1 20 38 1 yr.
Santulli, Ernest 92 WLB 1 13 30 1 yr.
Ford, Lincoln 28 LCB 1 19 52 1 yr.
Edwards, T.J. 25 LCB 1 14 38 1 yr.
Kawaguchi, Gary 33 LCB 1 12 21 1 yr.
Buford, Keith 23 RCB 1 25 44 1 yr.
Blanchard, Allen 20 RCB 1 16 26 1 yr.
Boyd, Kevin 43 SS 1 23 35 1 yr.
Robinson, Otis 42 SS 1 12 26 1 yr.
Tisdall, Rusty 49 SS 1 11 39 1 yr.
Rutter, Quentin 26 FS 1 18 47 1 yr.
$$ - player is suspended, ## - player is inactive,
** = player is injured, %% - player is on IR.
Players Under Contract: 57
Inactive: 0
On Active Roster: 57
Salary Cap: $134,800,000
Cap Room: $67,230,000
Maximum for New Player: $67,550,000
Cap Room Lost (to old contracts): $49,410,000
Cap Room Lost Next Year (to old contracts): $0
Cap Room Required Next Year: $0
A +5 for Wisniewski is a really good sign. I don't have access to any of the change-tracking utilities at the moment, so I will piece together what I need - but the raw materials are above, at least.
chesapeake
04-28-2010, 01:54 PM
I see a nice jump for SLB Israelson right off the bat (15/29 to 18/35).
QuikSand
04-28-2010, 01:58 PM
A few quick notes just looking at the bars of these guys before starting with anything...
Wisniewski is clearly the guy to play at QB, but his bars tell us precious little about what style of offense he can run. He has 9 formations, with no real slant among them. Next year, expanding that may be a priority.
At RB, Latham looks passable, rest are usable but nobody is special
FB Small will likely be a long term asset, but not a serious run blocker
TE Mitting looks like the starter there, but a void in RR means he's just beef, no gravy
WR is a mixed bag, no surprise... no strong bias between short-yardage (GD) guys and downfield (BPR) guys, really... some of each to a degree
G McClain had the best dash combine of any OL, and looks like he may be a long term asset for us... some run blocking potential there, and his 35 held
LT Alex Beyer has the look of a high BStr guy whose other ratings may creep over time... even after a -2 camp
I fouled up defensive front more than I had realized, and have to cut two guys just to get things close to realigned.
Looks like SLB Israalson posted a +6 camp and has some real potential -- he was the punishing hitter + pass rush strength profile guy who seems to have panned out well... not much potential as a run stopper, though
DB group is a mishmash of bars, no real theme there either... several guys with solid looking Int bar, at least
QuikSand
04-28-2010, 02:22 PM
Okay, I loaded up a gameplan titled "Balanced" (I'm assuming this was from the library published some while ago) and a vanilla 3-4 defense, and I ran season one. I have played enough IMT careers to know what to expect here... if this is news to you, you may want to sit down before continuing...
Front Office Football 2007
2010 Summary for Buffalo Bills
Year 2010
Record 1-15
Winning Pct. .062
All-Time 7-25
Winning Pct. .218
Playoffs 0-0
Playoff Visits 0
Bowl Wins 0
Head Coach Sam Frederick
Record 1-15
Winning Pct. .062
Off. Coord. J. Gooding
Def. Coord. A. Newton
Buffalo Bills Team Rank
Rushes per Game 21.3 32
Rushing Yards 89.1 31
Yards Per Carry 4.19 17
Pass Attempts 33.3 13
Completions 17.5 29
Completion Pct. 52.5 32
Passing Yards 167.6 32
Yards Per Attempt 5.03 32
Yards Per Catch 9.58 29 (T)
Total Yardage Gained 233.9 32
3rd Down Conversions 36.7 21
Points Per Game 7.5 32
Pass Rush Pct. 13.8 32
Pass Defense Pct. 19.9 32
Turnovers 35 28
Turnover Margin -21 32
Opponents Team Rank
Rushes per Game 35.5 32
Rushing Yards 158.6 32
Yards Per Carry 4.47 27
Pass Attempts 25.3 1
Completions 17.9 1
Completion Pct. 70.9 32
Passing Yards 218.8 15
Yards Per Attempt 8.64 32
Yards Per Catch 12.20 32
Total Yardage Gained 372.3 32
3rd Down Conversions 46.1 31
Points Per Game 31.1 32
Pass Rush Pct. 23.0 30
Pass Defense Pct. 74.3 32
Turnovers 14 32
Week Team Versus Oppnt
1 0 at NYJ 37
2 10 GBY 35
3 7 at JAX 34
4 6 CLE 23
5 0 at MIA 24
6 10 at PIT 31
7 11 at BAL 37
8 3 NYJ 30
9 3 CIN 37
10 14 at NED 19
12 24 at DET 23
13 6 KCY 36
14 7 MIN 40
15 10 NED 34
16 0 at CHI 27
17 9 MIA 30
Passing Pos Att Comp Yards Y/Att TD Int Rate
17 T. Wisniewski QB 415 225 2175 5.24 4 21 51.2
10 T. Capps QB 118 55 506 4.29 3 2 60.2
**Team --- 533 280 2681 5.03 7 23 53.2
$$Opp --- 405 287 3500 8.64 23 4 112.0
Rushing Pos Att Yards Y/Att TD Fum
27 A. Latham RB 205 773 3.77 2 4
24 H. Harmon RB 102 531 5.21 0 4
**Team --- 340 1426 4.19 2 31
$$Opp --- 568 2538 4.47 27 19
Receiving Pos Targ Catch Yards Y/Ctc Y/Tar Drop TD
83 O. Spencer WR 128 63 646 10.25 5.05 15 2
89 C. Giles WR 116 59 605 10.25 5.22 12 2
80 W. McQuilken WR 83 37 430 11.62 5.18 7 1
86 M. Pulido WR 62 35 411 11.74 6.63 3 1
27 A. Latham RB 43 24 190 7.92 4.42 1 0
84 T. Weintraub TE 24 16 126 7.88 5.25 2 1
Defense Pos Tack Asst Sack Hurr Ints Defn PDPct
58 M. Rivers ILB 94 34 0.0 1 1 1 72.9
54 R. Israelson OLB 79 22 3.0 1 0 6 70.5
43 K. Boyd S 78 39 1.0 0 0 2 76.0
91 B. Hanaki ILB 76 18 0.0 0 0 0 65.3
55 T. Linquist OLB 43 18 4.0 8 0 2 79.1
52 W. Whitfield ILB 42 9 0.0 0 0 1 73.0
26 Q. Rutter S 38 15 0.0 1 0 1 71.6
49 R. Tisdall S 35 15 0.0 0 0 1 73.7
94 M. Erickson DT 33 6 1.0 1 0 0 81.3
25 T. Edwards CB 32 11 0.0 1 1 3 77.2
98 B. Sanaee DE 31 12 1.0 2 0 2 82.7
96 K. Ballard DT 31 15 2.5 4 0 0 79.5
33 G. Kawaguchi CB 31 12 0.0 0 0 1 72.8
97 L. White DE 30 10 0.5 4 0 0 81.5
23 K. Buford CB 28 8 0.0 0 1 2 75.3
92 E. Santulli OLB 27 17 0.5 5 0 0 77.9
28 L. Ford CB 27 11 0.0 0 0 2 72.1
90 J. Baxter DE 21 4 0.5 5 0 0 81.6
20 A. Blanchard CB 18 5 0.0 0 1 3 79.4
QuikSand
04-28-2010, 02:23 PM
Since the summary doesn't include this stuff...
Front Office Football 2007
Blocking Statistics
Player Pos Team GP GS KRB KRO BPct Pnck SkA PPly SPct
Musum, Ryan G BUF 16 16 21 58 36.2 0 8 504 1.6
Beyer, Alex T BUF 16 16 18 42 42.9 0 13 479 2.7
Greene, Ed C BUF 16 16 17 52 32.7 0 4 484 0.8
Holdhusen, Don T BUF 16 16 10 37 27.0 0 14 486 2.9
McLain, Rod G BUF 16 16 8 37 21.6 0 5 421 1.2
Rivers, Melvin G BUF 16 0 8 21 38.1 0 5 249 2.0
Kitchen, Chester T BUF 16 0 6 15 40.0 0 3 209 1.4
Whalen, Phillip C BUF 16 0 5 13 38.5 0 2 103 1.9
Small, Russell FB BUF 16 11 3 15 20.0 0 0 266 0.0
Brigham, Lorenzo FB BUF 16 0 3 10 30.0 0 0 119 0.0
Mitting, Isaac TE BUF 9 9 3 4 75.0 0 0 210 0.0
Meek, Les TE BUF 16 0 0 3 0.0 0 0 135 0.0
Weintraub, Tito TE BUF 16 7 0 6 0.0 0 0 242 0.0
Player Pos Team RPly OPct
Musum, Ryan G BUF 297 19.5
Beyer, Alex T BUF 286 14.7
Greene, Ed C BUF 276 18.8
Holdhusen, Don T BUF 291 12.7
McLain, Rod G BUF 226 16.4
Rivers, Melvin G BUF 157 13.4
Kitchen, Chester T BUF 103 14.6
Whalen, Phillip C BUF 64 20.3
Small, Russell FB BUF 184 8.2
Brigham, Lorenzo FB BUF 65 15.4
Mitting, Isaac TE BUF 113 3.5
Meek, Les TE BUF 65 4.6
Weintraub, Tito TE BUF 178 3.4
KRB - Key Run Blocks, KRO - Key Run Block Opportunities, BPct - Key Run
Block Percentage, Pnck = Pancake Blocks, SkA - Sacks Allowed, PPly - Passing
Plays on Field, SPct - Sack Allowed Percentage, RPly - Rushing Plays on Field,
OPct - Block Opportunity Percentage.
QuikSand
04-28-2010, 02:43 PM
While I have the draft app up, here are some notes to myself and anyone reading:
Dash: RB Stan Dillon 4.48, WR Gus Owens 4.47 has some bars, QB Carlos Schmigdall 4.53, C Everett Coffey 5.07, T Ethan Covington 5.02 big bar, LT Butch Penn 5.02, DE Joey Owens bar, ILB Damon Behrendt, MLB Jason Greenwood, OLB Carl Mustian 4.58, CB Edward Brodie 4.46
Sole Test: QB Harry Gosselin 40, S Antonio Lynch 39 3 blue combines, RT Alex Nixon
Strength: G Horace Andrews 37 (three reds!), RG Brad Lowery
Agility: CB Xavier Marx 6.92!,
BJump: DE Xavier Sebek, RB Oliver Bromley, WR Willie Crawford
PSpec: CB Leon Ethridge 52, TE Peter Fredrickson
QuikSand
04-28-2010, 02:49 PM
Here's the latest incremental file, to bring you up to date -- into late free agency in 2011. (You need both this file and the one from the first post in this thread)
2011 files (http://www.sevenshuffles.com/QuikSand/imtbills2011.zip)
QuikSand
04-28-2010, 02:52 PM
At this point, there's a range of things to be done.
-Need to decide who among our young returning players is worth a new contract.
-Need to decide what to do with team chemistry, especially at the D7 where I inadvertently mucked things up significantly (making our SILB position a fairly tough decision).
-Need to scour for new players to add and bring along to camp
-Need to think about a gameplan to use that may fit this team better than the vanillas from year one... I'm wide open on both sides of the ball.
QuikSand
04-29-2010, 05:46 PM
Okay, then. Basically, here's my thinking going forward:
-If this team is ever going to be winning, it will be because we have some combination of true quality breakout players, sufficient solid enough role players around them, and then a whole lot of cohesion and chemistry. Basically, if we can land 2-4 impact players a year (impact meaning "guys who might actually get playing time on a real roster") and then otherwise build for chemistry... that's on the path toward a winning season in perhaps 8-10 years from now.
So, in order to have cohesion and chemistry high through that period, I need to lock up a number of players -- pretty much regardless of their skill level -- pretty soon.
That is, I figure, the real path to a winning team here. I'm sifting through the initial roster now, handing out new contracts and probably finding 20 guys who will still be on this roster in 2020.
rjolley
04-29-2010, 06:48 PM
What do you do with your draft picks, QS?
QuikSand
04-29-2010, 07:23 PM
What do you do with your draft picks, QS?
Arizona gets all of them. It's usually semi-interesting to see what a franchise does by having a top pick (often 1.1) and a double draft just handed to them every season. Usually they end up in big cap trouble before they really get good. I'll try to keep track in the thread.
MIJB#19
04-30-2010, 11:08 AM
RB Jeremy Swift (bench press 25), sounds like that power inside (>64) is for real, the third down running (>62) could be lower than advertised, but that combo can be interesting.
RB Gus Gellings (10/15, punt returner, semi-decent receiving skills) might be worth a shot at WR, but the punt returning (>59) alone makes him interesting.
DT Corey Chapman has okay speed (5.00 is decent for a DT) and power (31 bench reps), which seems to be in-line with the advertised blue. He'll be a big liability on running plays (no run defense, so-so play diagnosis). Not sure he can be moved to DE, though.
A 52 position drill for a CB? That's pretty huge. Some of the return skills are bogus (at least the kick returning), but the solecismic score, 40-time and position drill are good enough. And Ethridge is even an affinity match. Must get player.
You probably didn't miss S Kim Alexander and his 48 position drill score.
TE Louie Cooper also interests me as a player with long snapping skills and additionally some run blocking, getting downfield and big-play bars, with some combine scores that support his case a bit (4.73 dash, 7.51 agility, 9'7" broad jump).
And then there's combine skipping SLB Shannon Wynn, with an 80+ special teams bar, 70ish punishing hitter.
QuikSand
04-30-2010, 11:15 AM
Thanks... everyone on that list will get an invite to camp, for certain.
QuikSand
04-30-2010, 05:54 PM
Pre-camp ratings:
Front Office Football 2007
Buffalo Bills Roster, Scout Overview
Player # Pos Start Exp Current Estimate Future Estimate Cntrct
Stephenson, C.J. 7 QB 2 11 41 1 yr.
Duran, Tommie 6 QB 1 11 24 1 yr.
Wisniewski, Tracy 17 QB 2 8 21 1 yr.
Latham, Artie 27 RB 2 34 39 1 yr.
Harmon, Herman 24 RB 2 30 45 1 yr.
Swift, Jeremy 34 RB 1 27 52 1 yr.
Dillon, Stan 36 RB 1 25 34 1 yr.
Ogu, Jessie 21 RB 2 25 32 1 yr.
Small, Russell 40 FB 2 33 35 1 yr.
Brigham, Lorenzo 46 FB 2 25 45 1 yr.
Woodson, Charles 29 FB 1 22 54 1 yr.
Manning, Vernon 45 FB 2 10 20 1 yr.
Rackley, D.J. 85 TE 1 25 52 1 yr.
Mitting, Isaac 81 TE 2 24 37 1 yr.
Lowery, Riddick 44 TE 1 22 55 1 yr.
Fredrickson, Peter 41 TE 1 20 46 1 yr.
Baillargeon, Riddick 87 TE 1 17 50 1 yr.
Cooper, Louie 11 TE 1 17 32 1 yr.
McQuilken, Winfred 80 FL 2 28 30 1 yr.
Spencer, O.J. 83 FL 2 23 43 1 yr.
Owens, Gus 13 FL 1 19 43 2 yrs
Gellings, Gus 37 FL 1 14 31 1 yr.
Giles, Carlos 89 SE 2 21 39 1 yr.
Pulido, Mel 86 SE 2 18 26 1 yr.
Lee, Edward 82 SE 2 12 26 1 yr.
Greene, Ed 53 C 2 27 43 1 yr.
McKenzie, Shannon 57 C 1 13 53 2 yrs
Musum, Ryan 67 LG 2 28 31 1 yr.
McLain, Rod 60 LG 2 23 35 1 yr.
Lowery, Brad 72 RG 1 20 46 2 yrs
Beyer, Alex 76 LT 2 22 24 1 yr.
Nygaard, Gino 64 LT 1 20 30 2 yrs
Covington, Ethan 71 RT 1 4 40 1 yr.
Springer, Curtis 14 P 1 29 64 2 yrs
Federspiel, Jimmie 4 K 2 38 56 1 yr.
Chapman, Corey 99 LDE 1 21 34 2 yrs
Barlow, Walt 78 LDE 1 20 40 2 yrs
Sanaee, Bubba 98 RDE 2 25 34 1 yr.
Godfrey, Justin 79 RDE 2 19 34 1 yr.
Ballard, Kendall 96 LDT 2 22 41 1 yr.
Grebene, Clarence 74 NT 1 21 27 1 yr.
Brownlee, Ben 93 SILB 1 22 35 2 yrs
Whitfield, Willie 52 SILB 2 19 29 1 yr.
Hanaki, Bert 91 WILB 2 27 37 1 yr.
Borders, Timothy 50 WILB 1 12 53 1 yr.
Israelson, Ray 54 SLB 2 25 38 1 yr.
Wynn, Shannon 51 SLB 1 19 41 2 yrs
Salerno, Quentin 95 SLB 1 15 39 1 yr.
Linquist, Todd 55 WLB 2 21 35 1 yr.
Ford, Lincoln 28 LCB 2 24 46 1 yr.
Marx, Xavier 31 LCB 1 21 43 2 yrs
Edwards, T.J. 25 LCB 2 15 34 1 yr.
Kawaguchi, Gary 33 LCB 2 15 22 1 yr.
Buford, Keith 23 RCB 2 30 40 1 yr.
Ethridge, Leon 22 RCB 1 19 58 1 yr.
Blanchard, Allen 20 RCB 2 16 24 1 yr.
Dillon, Walt 38 RCB 1 7 23 1 yr.
Boyd, Kevin 43 SS 2 28 32 1 yr.
Alexander, Kim 39 SS 1 19 52 1 yr.
Robinson, Otis 42 SS 2 14 27 1 yr.
Wooden, Kenyon 32 SS 1 12 38 1 yr.
Rutter, Quentin 26 FS 2 26 45 1 yr.
Lynch, Antonio 30 FS 1 12 36 2 yrs
Finley, Julio 47 FS 1 11 30 1 yr.
QuikSand
04-30-2010, 05:55 PM
Post-camp:
Front Office Football 2007
Buffalo Bills Roster, Scout Overview
Player # Pos Start Exp Current Estimate Future Estimate Cntrct
Stephenson, C.J. 7 QB 2 13 41 1 yr.
Duran, Tommie 6 QB 1 13 26 1 yr.
Wisniewski, Tracy 17 QB 2 10 21 1 yr.
Latham, Artie 27 RB 2 35 35 1 yr.
Harmon, Herman 24 RB 2 32 44 1 yr.
Swift, Jeremy 34 RB 1 28 45 1 yr.
Ogu, Jessie 21 RB 2 27 32 1 yr.
Dillon, Stan 36 RB 1 27 34 1 yr.
Small, Russell 40 FB 2 36 36 1 yr.
Brigham, Lorenzo 46 FB 2 29 45 1 yr.
Woodson, Charles 29 FB 1 24 47 1 yr.
Manning, Vernon 45 FB 2 11 21 1 yr.
Rackley, D.J. 85 TE 1 29 47 1 yr.
Mitting, Isaac 81 TE 2 26 36 1 yr.
Fredrickson, Peter 41 TE 1 25 50 1 yr.
Lowery, Riddick 44 TE 1 24 47 1 yr.
Baillargeon, Riddick 87 TE 1 19 41 1 yr.
Cooper, Louie 11 TE 1 19 32 1 yr.
McQuilken, Winfred 80 FL 2 29 29 1 yr.
Spencer, O.J. 83 FL 2 26 44 1 yr.
Owens, Gus 13 FL 1 21 40 2 yrs
Gellings, Gus 37 FL 1 16 29 1 yr.
Giles, Carlos 89 SE 2 23 39 1 yr.
Pulido, Mel 86 SE 2 21 28 1 yr.
Lee, Edward 82 SE 2 15 27 1 yr.
Greene, Ed 53 C 2 30 43 1 yr.
McKenzie, Shannon 57 C 1 17 53 2 yrs
Musum, Ryan 67 LG 2 30 31 1 yr.
McLain, Rod 60 LG 2 27 35 1 yr.
Lowery, Brad 72 RG 1 22 41 2 yrs
Beyer, Alex 76 LT 2 22 24 1 yr.
Nygaard, Gino 64 LT 1 21 30 2 yrs
Covington, Ethan 71 RT 1 6 40 1 yr.
Springer, Curtis 14 P 1 30 55 2 yrs
Federspiel, Jimmie 4 K 2 39 57 1 yr.
Barlow, Walt 78 LDE 1 22 37 2 yrs
Chapman, Corey 99 LDE 1 22 31 2 yrs
Sanaee, Bubba 98 RDE 2 27 34 1 yr.
Godfrey, Justin 79 RDE 2 23 34 1 yr.
Ballard, Kendall 96 LDT 2 26 41 1 yr.
Grebene, Clarence 74 NT 1 22 29 1 yr.
Brownlee, Ben 93 SILB 1 25 36 2 yrs
Whitfield, Willie 52 SILB 2 22 30 1 yr.
Hanaki, Bert 91 WILB 2 31 38 1 yr.
Borders, Timothy 50 WILB 1 14 48 1 yr.
Israelson, Ray 54 SLB 2 28 38 1 yr.
Wynn, Shannon 51 SLB 1 21 37 2 yrs
Salerno, Quentin 95 SLB 1 17 34 1 yr.
Linquist, Todd 55 WLB 2 24 35 1 yr.
Ford, Lincoln 28 LCB 2 27 46 1 yr.
Marx, Xavier 31 LCB 1 24 40 2 yrs
Edwards, T.J. 25 LCB 2 17 34 1 yr.
Kawaguchi, Gary 33 LCB 2 16 22 1 yr.
Buford, Keith 23 RCB 2 31 31 1 yr.
Ethridge, Leon 22 RCB 1 21 47 1 yr.
Blanchard, Allen 20 RCB 2 18 24 1 yr.
Dillon, Walt 38 RCB 1 8 22 1 yr.
Boyd, Kevin 43 SS 2 30 30 1 yr.
Alexander, Kim 39 SS 1 21 46 1 yr.
Robinson, Otis 42 SS 2 17 28 1 yr.
Wooden, Kenyon 32 SS 1 15 35 1 yr.
Rutter, Quentin 26 FS 2 31 46 1 yr.
Lynch, Antonio 30 FS 1 15 38 2 yrs
Finley, Julio 47 FS 1 13 26 1 yr.
$$ - player is suspended, ## - player is inactive,
** = player is injured, %% - player is on IR.
Players Under Contract: 64
Inactive: 0
On Active Roster: 64
Salary Cap: $141,600,000
Cap Room: $116,560,000
Front Office Football 2007
Maximum for New Player: $116,900,000
Cap Room Lost (to old contracts): $0
Cap Room Lost Next Year (to old contracts): $0
Cap Room Required Next Year: $4,950,000
QuikSand
04-30-2010, 06:40 PM
Buffalo Bills Player Report
(IMTBUF2011c - IMTBUF2011d)
<table border="1"><tbody><tr><td>Name</td><td>Pos</td><td>Team</td><td>IMTBUF2011c Current</td><td>IMTBUF2011c Future</td><td>IMTBUF2011d Current</td><td>IMTBUF2011d Future</td><td>Overall Current Change</td><td>Overall Future Change</td></tr><tr><td>Duran, Tommie</td><td>QB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>11</td><td>24</td><td>13 (2)</td><td>26 (2)</td><td>2</td><td>2</td></tr><tr><td>Stephenson, C.J.</td><td>QB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>11</td><td>41</td><td>13 (2)</td><td>41 (0)</td><td>2</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Wisniewski, Tracy</td><td>QB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>8</td><td>21</td><td>10 (2)</td><td>21 (0)</td><td>2</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Dillon, Stan</td><td>RB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>25</td><td>34</td><td>27 (2)</td><td>34 (0)</td><td>2</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Harmon, Herman</td><td>RB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>30</td><td>45</td><td>32 (2)</td><td>44 (-1)</td><td>2</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr><td>Latham, Artie</td><td>RB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>34</td><td>39</td><td>35 (1)</td><td>35 (-4)</td><td>1</td><td>-4</td></tr><tr><td>Ogu, Jessie</td><td>RB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>25</td><td>32</td><td>27 (2)</td><td>32 (0)</td><td>2</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Swift, Jeremy</td><td>RB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>27</td><td>52</td><td>28 (1)</td><td>45 (-7)</td><td>1</td><td>-7</td></tr><tr><td>Brigham, Lorenzo</td><td>FB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>25</td><td>45</td><td>29 (4)</td><td>45 (0)</td><td>4</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Manning, Vernon</td><td>FB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>10</td><td>20</td><td>11 (1)</td><td>21 (1)</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>Small, Russell</td><td>FB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>33</td><td>35</td><td>36 (3)</td><td>36 (1)</td><td>3</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>Woodson, Charles</td><td>FB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>22</td><td>54</td><td>24 (2)</td><td>47 (-7)</td><td>2</td><td>-7</td></tr><tr><td>Baillargeon, Riddick</td><td>TE</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>17</td><td>50</td><td>19 (2)</td><td>41 (-9)</td><td>2</td><td>-9</td></tr><tr><td>Cooper, Louie</td><td>TE</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>17</td><td>32</td><td>19 (2)</td><td>32 (0)</td><td>2</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Fredrickson, Peter</td><td>TE</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>20</td><td>46</td><td>25 (5)</td><td>50 (4)</td><td>5</td><td>4</td></tr><tr><td>Lowery, Riddick</td><td>TE</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>22</td><td>55</td><td>24 (2)</td><td>47 (-8)</td><td>2</td><td>-8</td></tr><tr><td>Mitting, Isaac</td><td>TE</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>24</td><td>37</td><td>26 (2)</td><td>36 (-1)</td><td>2</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr><td>Rackley, D.J.</td><td>TE</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>25</td><td>52</td><td>29 (4)</td><td>47 (-5)</td><td>4</td><td>-5</td></tr><tr><td>Gellings, Gus</td><td>FL</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>14</td><td>31</td><td>16 (2)</td><td>29 (-2)</td><td>2</td><td>-2</td></tr><tr><td>McQuilken, Winfred</td><td>FL</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>28</td><td>30</td><td>29 (1)</td><td>29 (-1)</td><td>1</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr><td>Owens, Gus</td><td>FL</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>19</td><td>43</td><td>21 (2)</td><td>40 (-3)</td><td>2</td><td>-3</td></tr><tr><td>Spencer, O.J.</td><td>FL</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>23</td><td>43</td><td>26 (3)</td><td>44 (1)</td><td>3</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>Giles, Carlos</td><td>SE</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>21</td><td>39</td><td>23 (2)</td><td>39 (0)</td><td>2</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Lee, Edward</td><td>SE</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>12</td><td>26</td><td>15 (3)</td><td>27 (1)</td><td>3</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>Pulido, Mel</td><td>SE</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>18</td><td>26</td><td>21 (3)</td><td>28 (2)</td><td>3</td><td>2</td></tr><tr><td>Greene, Ed</td><td>C</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>27</td><td>43</td><td>30 (3)</td><td>43 (0)</td><td>3</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>McKenzie, Shannon</td><td>C</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>13</td><td>53</td><td>17 (4)</td><td>53 (0)</td><td>4</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>McLain, Rod</td><td>LG</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>23</td><td>35</td><td>27 (4)</td><td>35 (0)</td><td>4</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Musum, Ryan</td><td>LG</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>28</td><td>31</td><td>30 (2)</td><td>31 (0)</td><td>2</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Lowery, Brad</td><td>RG</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>20</td><td>46</td><td>22 (2)</td><td>41 (-5)</td><td>2</td><td>-5</td></tr><tr><td>Beyer, Alex</td><td>LT</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>22</td><td>24</td><td>22 (0)</td><td>24 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Nygaard, Gino</td><td>LT</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>20</td><td>30</td><td>21 (1)</td><td>30 (0)</td><td>1</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Covington, Ethan</td><td>RT</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>4</td><td>40</td><td>6 (2)</td><td>40 (0)</td><td>2</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Federspiel, Jimmie</td><td>K</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>38</td><td>56</td><td>39 (1)</td><td>57 (1)</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>Springer, Curtis</td><td>P</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>29</td><td>64</td><td>30 (1)</td><td>55 (-9)</td><td>1</td><td>-9</td></tr><tr><td>Barlow, Walt</td><td>LDE</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>20</td><td>40</td><td>22 (2)</td><td>37 (-3)</td><td>2</td><td>-3</td></tr><tr><td>Chapman, Corey</td><td>LDE</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>21</td><td>34</td><td>22 (1)</td><td>31 (-3)</td><td>1</td><td>-3</td></tr><tr><td>Ballard, Kendall</td><td>LDT</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>22</td><td>41</td><td>26 (4)</td><td>41 (0)</td><td>4</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Grebene, Clarence</td><td>NT</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>21</td><td>27</td><td>22 (1)</td><td>29 (2)</td><td>1</td><td>2</td></tr><tr><td>Godfrey, Justin</td><td>RDE</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>19</td><td>34</td><td>23 (4)</td><td>34 (0)</td><td>4</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Sanaee, Bubba</td><td>RDE</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>25</td><td>34</td><td>27 (2)</td><td>34 (0)</td><td>2</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Israelson, Ray</td><td>SLB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>25</td><td>38</td><td>28 (3)</td><td>38 (0)</td><td>3</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Salerno, Quentin</td><td>SLB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>15</td><td>39</td><td>17 (2)</td><td>34 (-5)</td><td>2</td><td>-5</td></tr><tr><td>Wynn, Shannon</td><td>SLB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>19</td><td>41</td><td>21 (2)</td><td>37 (-4)</td><td>2</td><td>-4</td></tr><tr><td>Brownlee, Ben</td><td>SILB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>22</td><td>35</td><td>25 (3)</td><td>36 (1)</td><td>3</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>Whitfield, Willie</td><td>SILB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>19</td><td>29</td><td>22 (3)</td><td>30 (1)</td><td>3</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>Borders, Timothy</td><td>WILB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>12</td><td>53</td><td>14 (2)</td><td>48 (-5)</td><td>2</td><td>-5</td></tr><tr><td>Hanaki, Bert</td><td>WILB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>27</td><td>37</td><td>31 (4)</td><td>38 (1)</td><td>4</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>Linquist, Todd</td><td>WLB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>21</td><td>35</td><td>24 (3)</td><td>35 (0)</td><td>3</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Edwards, T.J.</td><td>LCB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>15</td><td>34</td><td>17 (2)</td><td>34 (0)</td><td>2</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Ford, Lincoln</td><td>LCB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>24</td><td>46</td><td>27 (3)</td><td>46 (0)</td><td>3</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Kawaguchi, Gary</td><td>LCB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>15</td><td>22</td><td>16 (1)</td><td>22 (0)</td><td>1</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Marx, Xavier</td><td>LCB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>21</td><td>43</td><td>24 (3)</td><td>40 (-3)</td><td>3</td><td>-3</td></tr><tr><td>Blanchard, Allen</td><td>RCB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>16</td><td>24</td><td>18 (2)</td><td>24 (0)</td><td>2</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Buford, Keith</td><td>RCB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>30</td><td>40</td><td>31 (1)</td><td>31 (-9)</td><td>1</td><td>-9</td></tr><tr><td>Dillon, Walt</td><td>RCB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>7</td><td>23</td><td>8 (1)</td><td>22 (-1)</td><td>1</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr><td>Ethridge, Leon</td><td>RCB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>19</td><td>58</td><td>21 (2)</td><td>47 (-11)</td><td>2</td><td>-11</td></tr><tr><td>Alexander, Kim</td><td>SS</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>19</td><td>52</td><td>21 (2)</td><td>46 (-6)</td><td>2</td><td>-6</td></tr><tr><td>Boyd, Kevin</td><td>SS</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>28</td><td>32</td><td>30 (2)</td><td>30 (-2)</td><td>2</td><td>-2</td></tr><tr><td>Robinson, Otis</td><td>SS</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>14</td><td>27</td><td>17 (3)</td><td>28 (1)</td><td>3</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>Wooden, Kenyon</td><td>SS</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>12</td><td>38</td><td>15 (3)</td><td>35 (-3)</td><td>3</td><td>-3</td></tr><tr><td>Finley, Julio</td><td>FS</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>11</td><td>30</td><td>13 (2)</td><td>26 (-4)</td><td>2</td><td>-4</td></tr><tr><td>Lynch, Antonio</td><td>FS</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>12</td><td>36</td><td>15 (3)</td><td>38 (2)</td><td>3</td><td>2</td></tr><tr><td>Rutter, Quentin</td><td>FS</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>26</td><td>45</td><td>31 (5)</td><td>46 (1)</td><td>5</td><td>1</td></tr></tbody></table>
QuikSand
04-30-2010, 06:57 PM
So, I reckon everyone who bumped in camp gets a spot going forward... right? QB might be interesting now... I like the look of Duran a bit.
Dutch
05-01-2010, 02:40 AM
I'm curious what happens to Wisniewski. Unfortunately, he's got to play for us to see how he pans out in the end and it might be a whole lotta playing time for nothing...tough call.
MIJB#19
05-01-2010, 09:13 AM
Scratching my head here, all but one of my suggestions took huge hits. Especially CB Ethredge's hit is very disappointing and unexpected; -11, ouch...
QuikSand
05-01-2010, 09:52 AM
MIJB, my general experience is that while there will be guys with good-looking bars who slide through the whole draft, and there will be guys with some great combines who slide through...it's very rare to find guys with both who do. My usual expectation here is to find *either* low bar creepers (guys like Wisnieswki) or good-bar guys who slide but remain worthwhile.
A guy like Ethridge, even after a -11 camp,might still be worth keeping around, at least for now. Here's a look at him post-camp:
http://www.sevenshuffles.com/QuikSand/cbethridge.jpg
With those reds in zone, int, and ST... I see a guy who could be very solid as a nickel back for the long haul, even.
QuikSand
05-01-2010, 10:05 AM
At the start of the 2011 season, I decide to release RB Latham, for several reasons. My plan now is to go with Harmon as the main duty guy (63 power, 89 elus, decent receiving skills) and Swift (99 power, 68 3rd down) as the backup and short yardage guy. With two power-first backs, and better inside run blockers than our tackles, I will plan to push more runs between the tackles than I usually would.
In time, maybe this team becomes one Al Davis would like.
QuikSand
05-01-2010, 10:22 AM
After a 1-5 start, Wisniewski has a 47 rating, and I think it's time to calm things down on offense, and just try to play it safer. I rein in the passing game, and we will try to move the chains on offense without doing much aggressively.
In four games with a play-it-safe approach, we post a total of 20 points (3-0-14-3) and I decide it's time to try something new.
So, for the final six games, i tweak some key settings -- and we will try to pass 75% of the time on 1st and 10, and then run 80% of the time on second and long. We'll try to benefit from doing the unexpected.
QuikSand
05-01-2010, 11:50 AM
Basically, nothing to see here in terms of the team accomplishing anything. Pretty much as expected.
Front Office Football 2007
2011 Summary for Buffalo Bills
Year 2011
Record 2-14
Winning Pct. .125
All-Time 9-39
Winning Pct. .187
Playoffs 0-0
Playoff Visits 0
Bowl Wins 0
Head Coach Sam Frederick
Record 3-29
Winning Pct. .093
Off. Coord. J. Gooding
Def. Coord. A. Newton
Buffalo Bills Team Rank
Rushes per Game 20.1 32
Rushing Yards 62.6 32
Yards Per Carry 3.11 32
Pass Attempts 34.2 11
Completions 16.4 30
Completion Pct. 47.9 32
Passing Yards 158.4 31
Yards Per Attempt 4.63 32
Yards Per Catch 9.68 31
Total Yardage Gained 203.0 32
3rd Down Conversions 27.9 32
Points Per Game 7.7 32
Pass Rush Pct. 13.3 32
Pass Defense Pct. 36.6 32
Turnovers 36 30 (T)
Turnover Margin -14 30
Opponents Team Rank
Rushes per Game 38.8 32
Rushing Yards 166.9 32
Yards Per Carry 4.31 25
Pass Attempts 27.7 3
Completions 19.3 12 (T)
Completion Pct. 69.8 32
Passing Yards 205.1 7
Yards Per Attempt 7.41 27
Yards Per Catch 10.62 7
Total Yardage Gained 366.5 32
3rd Down Conversions 38.5 25
Points Per Game 25.9 32
Pass Rush Pct. 26.2 32
Pass Defense Pct. 84.8 32
Turnovers 22 24 (T)
Week Team Versus Oppnt
1 14 at NED 34
2 7 PHI 20
3 19 at CLE 16
4 13 at MIA 24
5 7 at DEN 29
6 7 OAK 33
8 3 SDO 29
9 0 NYJ 23
10 14 at KCY 30
11 3 NED 18
12 3 at DAL 31
13 3 JAX 30
14 10 WAS 7
15 3 MIA 29
16 10 at NYK 33
17 7 at NYJ 29
Passing Pos Att Comp Yards Y/Att TD Int Rate
17 T. Wisniewski QB 419 204 1999 4.77 7 17 51.2
6 T. Duran QB 124 56 511 4.12 0 9 26.7
**Team --- 547 262 2535 4.63 7 26 45.7
$$Opp --- 443 309 3281 7.41 21 10 97.5
Rushing Pos Att Yards Y/Att TD Fum
24 H. Harmon RB 135 390 2.89 1 1
Front Office Football 2007
34 J. Swift RB 93 319 3.43 2 4
21 J. Ogu RB 35 129 3.69 0 0
**Team --- 322 1002 3.11 4 29
$$Opp --- 620 2670 4.31 15 21
Receiving Pos Targ Catch Yards Y/Ctc Y/Tar Drop TD
89 C. Giles WR 123 59 715 12.12 5.81 6 1
83 O. Spencer WR 97 45 445 9.89 4.59 1 3
13 G. Owens WR 76 37 442 11.95 5.82 3 0
41 P. Fredrickson TE 42 23 130 5.65 3.10 3 0
86 M. Pulido WR 47 22 210 9.55 4.47 5 0
Defense Pos Tack Asst Sack Hurr Ints Defn PDPct
91 B. Hanaki ILB 104 42 1.0 1 0 0 71.9
54 R. Israelson OLB 92 19 4.0 1 1 6 72.4
93 B. Brownlee ILB 88 37 0.0 0 2 3 73.9
43 K. Boyd S 74 34 0.0 0 1 4 77.4
52 W. Whitfield ILB 61 15 0.0 1 0 2 75.1
55 T. Linquist OLB 43 16 0.0 9 0 1 79.9
74 C. Grebene DT 37 21 4.0 6 0 0 82.1
30 A. Lynch S 36 12 0.0 0 0 6 80.3
28 L. Ford CB 35 7 0.0 0 0 4 76.8
31 X. Marx CB 35 7 0.0 0 0 5 75.3
39 K. Alexander S 35 10 0.0 0 3 1 81.2
23 K. Buford CB 32 7 0.0 0 0 8 80.3
96 K. Ballard DT 31 7 0.5 1 0 0 79.7
78 W. Barlow DE 30 14 1.0 7 0 0 79.8
79 J. Godfrey DE 29 10 0.0 3 0 0 80.4
51 S. Wynn OLB 28 10 1.5 2 0 3 76.5
99 C. Chapman DE 24 16 0.0 4 0 0 81.1
20 A. Blanchard CB 22 8 0.0 0 2 1 76.3
33 G. Kawaguchi CB 17 6 0.0 0 0 1 76.3
QuikSand
05-01-2010, 11:52 AM
Tough to say what the stats tell us about DT Grebene, but he had a +2 rookie camp, a pretty good statistical season (9.2 T%, 4.7 PR%) and now scouts at 25/29.
QuikSand
05-01-2010, 11:56 AM
I will advance to the next post-draft stage, and post a new file shortly.
QuikSand
05-01-2010, 12:07 PM
Notes from the post-draft screen:
QB Winston Cooley - 86 PSpec and 4.37 dash!!! but three greens
C Raymond Booth - 5.04 dash and max run blocking bar
WR Bucky Pexna - 6.96 agil
S Richie Alexander - 47 Sole, 45 PSpec
Young Drachma
05-01-2010, 12:11 PM
Interesting stuff, as usual. I've always found this concept interesting and naturally, I'm not nearly good enough at FOF to attempt it, but I'm thinking a baseball variation could be in the offing.
QuikSand
05-01-2010, 12:11 PM
Here's a new file... contents to be added to those from the previous ones.
http://www.sevenshuffles.com/QuikSand/imtbuf_2012.zip
MIJB#19
05-01-2010, 12:19 PM
MIJB, my general experience is that while there will be guys with good-looking bars who slide through the whole draft, and there will be guys with some great combines who slide through...it's very rare to find guys with both who do. My usual expectation here is to find *either* low bar creepers (guys like Wisnieswki) or good-bar guys who slide but remain worthwhile.
A guy like Ethridge, even after a -11 camp,might still be worth keeping around, at least for now. Here's a look at him post-camp:
image here
With those reds in zone, int, and ST... I see a guy who could be very solid as a nickel back for the long haul, even.I hear ya. It was just a bit moaning about me giving some so-so advice.
I'll grab the new file and make another set of well educated guesses on guys who seem to be semi-decent but will still likely lose potential after camp. ;)
MIJB#19
05-01-2010, 01:15 PM
Some somewhat-obvious suggestions:
RB Michael Barker, 50+ for hole recognition and speed to outside in experience.
WR James Gillespie, returnman (and basically nothing but).
K Scottie Kirchhof, could be a top-notch kickoff specialist, if you're into using a roster spot for that. :D
DE Leo Gerken, run defense potential, punishing hitter.
DT Edgar Hoffman and Mark Terrell, 40-time under 5.00.
DT R.J. Tuholski, 22/29 and only 48% developed, decent strength and agility.
WILB Andy Fitzgerald, decent 40-yd dash.
MLB Jamie Fletcher and SLB Glen Clausen, strange set of bars, very developed for a rookie.
WLB Scott Rust, run defense, zone defense, speicla teams.
RCB Juan Sawyer, punt returning, interceptions, broad jump score.
LT Earl Linquist and LG Colin Huntley, pass blockers with good agility scores.
SS Roy Harrison, 43 position drill.
LDE Derek Alcott.
QuikSand
05-02-2010, 01:49 PM
Okay, took a huge slate of stiffs into training camp this year. I think at the end of season three, we can start filling in the roster puzzle a bit -- basically reaching some conclusions on what guys on the roster then are long term keepers, and what slots we feel we have more or less in hand.
QuikSand
05-02-2010, 01:51 PM
One interesting twist... QB Tommie Duran, our #2 last year who got around 100 passes in reserve, is already "angry" and unwilling to sign for a year two. I plan to re-sign him after camp if possible, staying at least broadly within my own rules... but will try to avoid such a situation again. In my history, guys who inexplicably are pissed off about playing time are often better than their visible ratings suggest. Interesting tidbit, we'll see if he gets grabbed in free agency before we can reclaim him.
QuikSand
05-02-2010, 01:54 PM
I bum training camp up an extra hour for playbook study, hoping to get a couple more formations for our young QB Wisniewski.
Top Ten Most Likely Busts:
Name Team Pos Change
Dunlap, Peter Buffalo LT -14
Federspiel, Jimmie Buffalo K -11
Spencer, O.J. Buffalo FL -9
Rodriguez, Chris Buffalo QB -8
Hoffman, Edgar Buffalo NT -6
Ford, Lincoln Buffalo LCB -6
Rust, Scott Buffalo SLB -6
Booth, Raymond Buffalo C -6
Pulido, Mel Buffalo SE -6
Clausen, Glen Buffalo SLB -5
Top Ten Most Likely Breakouts:
Name Team Pos Change
Owens, Gus Buffalo FL 3
Penxa, Bucky Buffalo FL 2
Rackley, D.J. Buffalo TE 1
Tuholski, R.J. Buffalo LDT 1
Barlow, Walt Buffalo LDE 1
Chapman, Corey Buffalo LDE 1
Whitfield, Willie Buffalo SILB 1
Brownlee, Ben Buffalo SILB 1
Buford, Keith Buffalo RCB 1
Linquist, Todd Buffalo WLB 1
QuikSand
05-02-2010, 01:55 PM
Buffalo Bills Player Report
(IMTBUF2012c - IMTBUF2012d)
<table border="1"><tbody><tr><td>Name</td><td>Pos</td><td>Team</td><td>IMTBUF2012c Current</td><td>IMTBUF2012c Future</td><td>IMTBUF2012d Current</td><td>IMTBUF2012d Future</td><td>Overall Current Change</td><td>Overall Future Change</td></tr><tr><td>Borgerson, Scottie</td><td>QB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>10</td><td>29</td><td>13 (3)</td><td>29 (0)</td><td>3</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Cooley, Winston</td><td>QB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>8</td><td>32</td><td>10 (2)</td><td>32 (0)</td><td>2</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Rodriguez, Chris</td><td>QB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>16</td><td>45</td><td>18 (2)</td><td>37 (-8)</td><td>2</td><td>-8</td></tr><tr><td>Shepherd, Rex</td><td>QB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>18</td><td>45</td><td>21 (3)</td><td>40 (-5)</td><td>3</td><td>-5</td></tr><tr><td>Stephenson, C.J.</td><td>QB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>13</td><td>41</td><td>15 (2)</td><td>41 (0)</td><td>2</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Wisniewski, Tracy</td><td>QB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>11</td><td>25</td><td>14 (3)</td><td>25 (0)</td><td>3</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Barker, Michael</td><td>RB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>24</td><td>30</td><td>25 (1)</td><td>31 (1)</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>Clinton, Hugh</td><td>RB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>29</td><td>38</td><td>29 (0)</td><td>34 (-4)</td><td>0</td><td>-4</td></tr><tr><td>Harmon, Herman</td><td>RB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>32</td><td>40</td><td>34 (2)</td><td>40 (0)</td><td>2</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Swift, Jeremy</td><td>RB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>29</td><td>41</td><td>31 (2)</td><td>41 (0)</td><td>2</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Brigham, Lorenzo</td><td>FB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>28</td><td>41</td><td>30 (2)</td><td>41 (0)</td><td>2</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Manning, Vernon</td><td>FB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>12</td><td>21</td><td>13 (1)</td><td>20 (-1)</td><td>1</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr><td>Small, Russell</td><td>FB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>36</td><td>36</td><td>36 (0)</td><td>36 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Fredrickson, Peter</td><td>TE</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>34</td><td>53</td><td>38 (4)</td><td>53 (0)</td><td>4</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Mitting, Isaac</td><td>TE</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>25</td><td>32</td><td>27 (2)</td><td>32 (0)</td><td>2</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Rackley, D.J.</td><td>TE</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>28</td><td>43</td><td>32 (4)</td><td>44 (1)</td><td>4</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>Owens, Gus</td><td>FL</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>23</td><td>37</td><td>26 (3)</td><td>40 (3)</td><td>3</td><td>3</td></tr><tr><td>Penxa, Bucky</td><td>FL</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>15</td><td>28</td><td>17 (2)</td><td>30 (2)</td><td>2</td><td>2</td></tr><tr><td>Spencer, O.J.</td><td>FL</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>27</td><td>38</td><td>29 (2)</td><td>29 (-9)</td><td>2</td><td>-9</td></tr><tr><td>Giles, Carlos</td><td>SE</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>23</td><td>31</td><td>25 (2)</td><td>31 (0)</td><td>2</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Gillespie, James</td><td>SE</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>13</td><td>33</td><td>15 (2)</td><td>31 (-2)</td><td>2</td><td>-2</td></tr><tr><td>Lee, Edward</td><td>SE</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>15</td><td>24</td><td>17 (2)</td><td>24 (0)</td><td>2</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Pulido, Mel</td><td>SE</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>24</td><td>31</td><td>25 (1)</td><td>25 (-6)</td><td>1</td><td>-6</td></tr><tr><td>Booth, Raymond</td><td>C</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>13</td><td>62</td><td>18 (5)</td><td>56 (-6)</td><td>5</td><td>-6</td></tr><tr><td>Garrison, Randal</td><td>C</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>12</td><td>45</td><td>16 (4)</td><td>41 (-4)</td><td>4</td><td>-4</td></tr><tr><td>Greene, Ed</td><td>C</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>31</td><td>38</td><td>35 (4)</td><td>38 (0)</td><td>4</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>McKenzie, Shannon</td><td>C</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>20</td><td>53</td><td>25 (5)</td><td>53 (0)</td><td>5</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Musum, Ryan</td><td>LG</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>35</td><td>35</td><td>36 (1)</td><td>36 (1)</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>Lowery, Brad</td><td>RG</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>23</td><td>39</td><td>25 (2)</td><td>39 (0)</td><td>2</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>McLain, Rod</td><td>RG</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>26</td><td>34</td><td>30 (4)</td><td>34 (0)</td><td>4</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Beyer, Alex</td><td>LT</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>27</td><td>27</td><td>27 (0)</td><td>27 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Dunlap, Peter</td><td>LT</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>12</td><td>53</td><td>14 (2)</td><td>39 (-14)</td><td>2</td><td>-14</td></tr><tr><td>Linquist, Earl</td><td>LT</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>16</td><td>46</td><td>19 (3)</td><td>43 (-3)</td><td>3</td><td>-3</td></tr><tr><td>Nygaard, Gino</td><td>LT</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>25</td><td>30</td><td>25 (0)</td><td>30 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Federspiel, Jimmie</td><td>K</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>41</td><td>52</td><td>41 (0)</td><td>41 (-11)</td><td>0</td><td>-11</td></tr><tr><td>Kirchhof, Scottie</td><td>K</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>16</td><td>19</td><td>16 (0)</td><td>17 (-2)</td><td>0</td><td>-2</td></tr><tr><td>Springer, Curtis</td><td>P</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>35</td><td>49</td><td>36 (1)</td><td>49 (0)</td><td>1</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Barlow, Walt</td><td>LDE</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>23</td><td>35</td><td>25 (2)</td><td>36 (1)</td><td>2</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>Chapman, Corey</td><td>LDE</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>25</td><td>31</td><td>27 (2)</td><td>32 (1)</td><td>2</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>Gerken, Leo</td><td>LDE</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>19</td><td>40</td><td>22 (3)</td><td>39 (-1)</td><td>3</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr><td>Griffith, Wayne</td><td>LDE</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>10</td><td>38</td><td>12 (2)</td><td>34 (-4)</td><td>2</td><td>-4</td></tr><tr><td>Pearson, Brant</td><td>LDE</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>10</td><td>29</td><td>12 (2)</td><td>29 (0)</td><td>2</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Ballard, Kendall</td><td>LDT</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>25</td><td>39</td><td>28 (3)</td><td>39 (0)</td><td>3</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Tuholski, R.J.</td><td>LDT</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>23</td><td>29</td><td>27 (4)</td><td>30 (1)</td><td>4</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>Terrell, Mark</td><td>RDT</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>12</td><td>34</td><td>16 (4)</td><td>33 (-1)</td><td>4</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr><td>Grebene, Clarence</td><td>NT</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>25</td><td>29</td><td>26 (1)</td><td>29 (0)</td><td>1</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Hoffman, Edgar</td><td>NT</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>16</td><td>51</td><td>18 (2)</td><td>45 (-6)</td><td>2</td><td>-6</td></tr><tr><td>Farr, Darren</td><td>RDE</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>16</td><td>40</td><td>18 (2)</td><td>39 (-1)</td><td>2</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr><td>Godfrey, Justin</td><td>RDE</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>25</td><td>31</td><td>27 (2)</td><td>30 (-1)</td><td>2</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr><td>Sanaee, Bubba</td><td>RDE</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>27</td><td>34</td><td>29 (2)</td><td>34 (0)</td><td>2</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Clausen, Glen</td><td>SLB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>16</td><td>40</td><td>18 (2)</td><td>35 (-5)</td><td>2</td><td>-5</td></tr><tr><td>Israelson, Ray</td><td>SLB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>38</td><td>43</td><td>40 (2)</td><td>40 (-3)</td><td>2</td><td>-3</td></tr><tr><td>Rust, Scott</td><td>SLB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>12</td><td>50</td><td>15 (3)</td><td>44 (-6)</td><td>3</td><td>-6</td></tr><tr><td>Wynn, Shannon</td><td>SLB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>22</td><td>35</td><td>26 (4)</td><td>35 (0)</td><td>4</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Brownlee, Ben</td><td>SILB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>30</td><td>36</td><td>33 (3)</td><td>37 (1)</td><td>3</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>Whitfield, Willie</td><td>SILB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>24</td><td>26</td><td>27 (3)</td><td>27 (1)</td><td>3</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>Fitzgerald, Andy</td><td>WILB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>10</td><td>24</td><td>13 (3)</td><td>24 (0)</td><td>3</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Hanaki, Bert</td><td>WILB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>35</td><td>35</td><td>35 (0)</td><td>35 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Fletcher, Jamie</td><td>WLB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>24</td><td>38</td><td>27 (3)</td><td>37 (-1)</td><td>3</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr><td>Linquist, Todd</td><td>WLB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>25</td><td>26</td><td>27 (2)</td><td>27 (1)</td><td>2</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>Ford, Lincoln</td><td>LCB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>29</td><td>38</td><td>32 (3)</td><td>32 (-6)</td><td>3</td><td>-6</td></tr><tr><td>Kawaguchi, Gary</td><td>LCB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>19</td><td>22</td><td>21 (2)</td><td>22 (0)</td><td>2</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Marx, Xavier</td><td>LCB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>28</td><td>38</td><td>30 (2)</td><td>38 (0)</td><td>2</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Porcaro, Melvin</td><td>LCB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>15</td><td>42</td><td>18 (3)</td><td>38 (-4)</td><td>3</td><td>-4</td></tr><tr><td>Buford, Keith</td><td>RCB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>29</td><td>29</td><td>30 (1)</td><td>30 (1)</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>Ethridge, Leon</td><td>RCB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>20</td><td>41</td><td>24 (4)</td><td>41 (0)</td><td>4</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Sawyer, Juan</td><td>RCB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>19</td><td>41</td><td>21 (2)</td><td>37 (-4)</td><td>2</td><td>-4</td></tr><tr><td>Alexander, Kim</td><td>SS</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>22</td><td>42</td><td>25 (3)</td><td>42 (0)</td><td>3</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Harrison, Roy</td><td>SS</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>17</td><td>51</td><td>19 (2)</td><td>46 (-5)</td><td>2</td><td>-5</td></tr><tr><td>Robinson, Otis</td><td>SS</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>20</td><td>30</td><td>19 (-1)</td><td>26 (-4)</td><td>-1</td><td>-4</td></tr><tr><td>Alexander, Richie</td><td>FS</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>8</td><td>17</td><td>10 (2)</td><td>17 (0)</td><td>2</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Lynch, Antonio</td><td>FS</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>19</td><td>39</td><td>22 (3)</td><td>39 (0)</td><td>3</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Rutter, Quentin</td><td>FS</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>32</td><td>43</td><td>37 (5)</td><td>43 (0)</td><td>5</td><td>0</td></tr></tbody></table>
QuikSand
05-02-2010, 02:11 PM
Here's a visual look at the various QB options we have before us, more or less. With Wisniewski now really showing much growth (lack of a mentor hurting here?) I think it's probably time to give this position some serious thought. I think a look at the bars ought to help on that front:
http://www.sevenshuffles.com/QuikSand/imtbuf_2012_qb_summary.jpg
QuikSand
05-02-2010, 02:18 PM
So, my feeling is that all Wisniewski has going for him at this point is the various "creeper" indications. Two flat camps down, and he is still at a potential rating of only 25. Maybe at this rate he continues to gain a couple points a season if he remains our starter...eventually becoming, what, a 34/34 veteran without many specific skills that truly aid a gameplan? (His best bar is basically the avoid rush)
Duran looks like the guy who right now would probably be the most useful, I suppose. The rest are the usual ragtag gang of castoffs. Cooley might be interesting with those fleet feet (wildcat QB material) but is likely a pick machine forever, given his combines.
So, I guess we have weaker prospects here than I had hoped when we had the strong initial camp from Wisniewski... I was hoping we'd be at something like 25/30 by now, and still counting out the steps ahead into the 40s or 50s perhaps.
QuikSand
05-02-2010, 02:57 PM
Two guys from this class who are personality conflicts. C Booth wasn't a tough cut after a -6 camp, but I really do like the looks of S Harrison. Even after a -5 camp Harrison still looks like a solid long term asset as a safety, return man, and special teamer. Would like to keep him, but I think the investment in chemistry is too important to dash that way.
I decide to move S Harrison to RB, where he actually looks to still be useful. He will get a shot maybe as our 3rd RB this year. I thought he would be an affinity, but i guess Jan 22 is in the wrong group...dang.
QuikSand
05-02-2010, 03:34 PM
I am thinking about splitting the starts this season between Duran and Wisniewski, at least to see if Duran demonstrates any more addition to the offense. Plan right now is to go with a slight derivation from Ben's "smash mouth" offensive gameplan posted publicly.
QuikSand
05-02-2010, 07:42 PM
So... half a season in the bag behind Wisniewski running a smash-mouth offense behind a lot of 2TE formations and a fair bit of inside running. And, we remain thoroughly dreadful on the field. We're 0-8, Wiz sits with a 39.7 rating, and the backup Duran (with 44 attempts in reserve) has a rating of 99.4. The fans are furious, they demand the backup-- and they will get him. We'll also be without starting TE (and developing stalwart) Frederickson, who will be out with an injury. Frederickson is nothing much in the passing game (which for us is nothing much anyway) but is developing into a heck of a run blocker for us.
We'll carry forward with Duran behind center, and the same gameplan in place...
QuikSand
05-02-2010, 08:08 PM
Front Office Football 2007
2012 Summary for Buffalo Bills
Year 2012
Record 0-16
Winning Pct. .000
All-Time 9-55
Winning Pct. .140
Playoffs 0-0
Playoff Visits 0
Bowl Wins 0
Head Coach Sam Frederick
Record 3-45
Winning Pct. .062
Off. Coord. J. Gooding
Def. Coord. A. Newton
Buffalo Bills Team Rank
Rushes per Game 24.3 29
Rushing Yards 94.8 31
Yards Per Carry 3.90 20
Pass Attempts 33.8 14
Completions 16.5 31
Completion Pct. 48.8 32
Passing Yards 157.8 32
Yards Per Attempt 4.67 32
Yards Per Catch 9.56 31
Total Yardage Gained 234.5 32
3rd Down Conversions 29.4 32
Points Per Game 11.3 32
Pass Rush Pct. 18.8 23
Pass Defense Pct. 47.6 24
Turnovers 42 32
Turnover Margin -25 32
Opponents Team Rank
Rushes per Game 35.9 32
Rushing Yards 151.2 32
Yards Per Carry 4.21 23
Pass Attempts 26.1 1
Completions 16.4 1
Completion Pct. 63.1 27
Passing Yards 187.9 1
Yards Per Attempt 7.21 28
Yards Per Catch 11.43 21 (T)
Total Yardage Gained 329.8 17
3rd Down Conversions 38.8 22
Points Per Game 26.3 32
Pass Rush Pct. 22.9 29
Pass Defense Pct. 89.1 32
Turnovers 17 30 (T)
Week Team Versus Oppnt
1 6 MIA 31
2 17 at ARI 24
3 18 CLE 28
4 20 at TEN 24
5 10 at IND 13
6 10 HOU 18
7 13 at MIA 34
9 3 JAX 16
10 7 NYJ 24
11 14 at NED 40
12 7 STL 31
13 6 at KCY 23
14 13 SEA 31
15 3 at NYJ 30
16 13 at SFO 19
17 21 NED 34
Passing Pos Att Comp Yards Y/Att TD Int Rate
3 T. Duran QB 302 147 1512 5.01 9 17 50.0
17 T. Wisniewski QB 211 102 905 4.29 2 12 39.7
**Team --- 541 264 2524 4.67 12 30 46.4
$$Opp --- 417 263 3006 7.21 17 9 89.2
Rushing Pos Att Yards Y/Att TD Fum
34 J. Swift RB 221 893 4.04 1 1
Front Office Football 2007
27 M. Barker RB 85 347 4.08 2 2
38 R. Harrison RB 70 245 3.50 0 0
**Team --- 389 1516 3.90 3 22
$$Opp --- 574 2419 4.21 20 15
Receiving Pos Targ Catch Yards Y/Ctc Y/Tar Drop TD
83 O. Spencer WR 97 49 475 9.69 4.90 8 3
89 C. Giles WR 109 47 347 7.38 3.18 5 1
13 G. Owens WR 91 43 520 12.09 5.71 4 2
88 B. Penxa WR 56 26 305 11.73 5.45 4 1
85 D. Rackley TE 43 21 221 10.52 5.14 0 0
81 I. Mitting TE 33 18 171 9.50 5.18 0 0
34 J. Swift RB 23 18 143 7.94 6.22 2 3
Defense Pos Tack Asst Sack Hurr Ints Defn PDPct
91 B. Hanaki ILB 107 34 0.5 0 0 1 69.7
50 B. Brownlee ILB 84 36 2.0 0 0 4 74.7
54 R. Israelson OLB 73 20 2.5 5 1 6 77.4
30 A. Lynch S 53 24 0.0 1 0 2 73.8
26 Q. Rutter S 51 28 1.0 0 2 7 83.8
55 T. Linquist OLB 49 12 5.5 11 0 3 79.4
98 B. Sanaee DE 41 9 2.0 5 0 0 82.5
31 X. Marx CB 37 18 0.0 0 0 1 77.0
28 L. Ford CB 35 7 1.0 0 4 7 84.7
99 C. Chapman DE 32 8 1.5 6 0 0 79.9
52 W. Whitfield ILB 31 9 0.0 0 0 2 65.6
22 L. Ethridge CB 30 7 0.0 0 1 9 82.5
96 K. Ballard DT 28 11 2.5 5 0 1 83.8
39 K. Alexander S 28 13 0.0 0 0 3 74.7
79 J. Godfrey DE 27 12 1.0 6 0 0 81.9
74 C. Grebene DT 27 20 1.0 3 0 0 82.0
78 W. Barlow DE 18 3 1.5 2 0 0 81.1
37 J. Sawyer CB 18 8 0.0 0 1 2 78.3
58 G. Clausen OLB 17 8 1.0 2 0 0 78.9
Okay, so there's nothing really all that different between 2-14 and 0-16, but this feels terrible, of course.
Front Office Football 2007
Blocking Statistics
Player Pos Team GP GS KRB KRO BPct Pnck SkA PPly SPct
McLain, Rod G BUF 16 16 24 62 38.7 2 7 508 1.4
Musum, Ryan G BUF 16 16 17 62 27.4 2 5 457 1.1
Greene, Ed C BUF 12 12 15 40 37.5 0 5 300 1.7
Nygaard, Gino T BUF 16 16 13 36 36.1 0 7 490 1.4
Beyer, Alex T BUF 16 16 12 59 20.3 1 7 494 1.4
Lowery, Brad G BUF 16 0 6 28 21.4 0 2 205 1.0
Small, Russell FB BUF 16 15 5 15 33.3 1 1 245 0.4
McKenzie, Shannon C BUF 16 0 4 20 20.0 0 2 166 1.2
Linquist, Earl T BUF 16 0 4 11 36.4 0 2 186 1.1
Fredrickson, Peter TE BUF 8 8 3 10 30.0 0 0 158 0.0
Brigham, Lorenzo FB BUF 16 2 2 9 22.2 0 1 154 0.6
Rackley, D.J. TE BUF 16 11 1 11 9.1 0 0 223 0.0
Garrison, Randal C BUF 4 4 1 11 9.1 0 5 119 4.2
Mitting, Isaac TE BUF 16 4 0 2 0.0 0 0 220 0.0
Player Pos Team RPly OPct
McLain, Rod G BUF 327 19.0
Musum, Ryan G BUF 295 21.0
Greene, Ed C BUF 210 19.0
Nygaard, Gino T BUF 313 11.5
Beyer, Alex T BUF 329 17.9
Lowery, Brad G BUF 156 17.9
Small, Russell FB BUF 220 6.8
McKenzie, Shannon C BUF 108 18.5
Linquist, Earl T BUF 136 8.1
Fredrickson, Peter TE BUF 182 5.5
Brigham, Lorenzo FB BUF 144 6.3
Rackley, D.J. TE BUF 210 5.2
Garrison, Randal C BUF 71 15.5
Mitting, Isaac TE BUF 118 1.7
KRB - Key Run Blocks, KRO - Key Run Block Opportunities, BPct - Key Run
Block Percentage, Pnck = Pancake Blocks, SkA - Sacks Allowed, PPly - Passing
Plays on Field, SPct - Sack Allowed Percentage, RPly - Rushing Plays on Field,
OPct - Block Opportunity Percentage.
Front Office Football 2007
Miscellaneous Statistics
Player Pos Team GP GS Fum Rec FReTD FF STTck STPly
Swift, Jeremy RB BUF 16 16 1 0 0 0 0 25
Owens, Gus WR BUF 16 13 1 1 0 0 0 31
Spencer, O.J. WR BUF 16 1 1 2 0 0 1 162
Barker, Michael RB BUF 16 0 2 1 0 0 2 293
Giles, Carlos WR BUF 16 10 1 0 0 0 1 151
Penxa, Bucky WR BUF 16 0 1 0 0 0 0 82
Harrison, Roy RB BUF 16 0 0 1 0 0 15 97
Rackley, D.J. TE BUF 16 11 2 1 0 0 0 90
Mitting, Isaac TE BUF 16 4 0 0 0 0 4 248
Fredrickson, Peter TE BUF 8 8 0 0 0 0 1 56
Brigham, Lorenzo FB BUF 16 2 0 1 0 0 3 192
Gillespie, James WR BUF 16 0 2 0 0 0 2 194
Duran, Tommie QB BUF 12 8 5 0 0 0 0 0
Small, Russell FB BUF 16 15 1 0 0 0 25 164
Cooley, Winston QB BUF 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Wisniewski, Tracy QB BUF 8 8 1 1 0 0 0 0
Greene, Ed C BUF 12 12 0 0 0 0 0 23
McLain, Rod G BUF 16 16 0 1 0 0 3 123
Musum, Ryan G BUF 16 16 0 0 0 0 0 57
Beyer, Alex T BUF 16 16 0 0 0 0 0 3
Federspiel, Jimmie K BUF 16 0 0 0 0 0 0 67
Sanaee, Bubba DE BUF 16 16 0 0 0 0 0 41
Godfrey, Justin DE BUF 16 0 0 1 0 1 0 99
Ballard, Kendall DT BUF 16 0 0 1 0 1 0 37
Hanaki, Bert ILB BUF 16 13 0 1 0 0 1 156
Whitfield, Willie ILB BUF 16 0 0 0 0 1 0 33
Israelson, Ray OLB BUF 16 16 0 0 0 1 0 61
Linquist, Todd OLB BUF 16 16 0 0 0 2 0 28
Kawaguchi, Gary CB BUF 16 0 0 0 0 0 2 159
Robinson, Otis S BUF 8 0 0 1 1 1 6 131
Ford, Lincoln CB BUF 16 3 0 1 0 1 0 43
Rutter, Quentin S BUF 16 16 0 0 0 0 0 50
McKenzie, Shannon C BUF 16 0 0 0 0 0 4 122
Lowery, Brad G BUF 16 0 0 1 0 0 4 123
Springer, Curtis P BUF 16 0 0 0 0 0 0 123
Barlow, Walt DE BUF 16 0 0 0 0 1 0 30
Grebene, Clarence DT BUF 16 16 0 0 0 0 0 48
Chapman, Corey DE BUF 16 16 0 1 0 0 0 60
Brownlee, Ben ILB BUF 16 16 0 1 0 3 0 45
Wynn, Shannon OLB BUF 5 0 0 1 0 0 5 125
Ethridge, Leon CB BUF 16 3 0 0 0 0 0 188
Marx, Xavier CB BUF 16 16 0 0 0 0 0 41
Lynch, Antonio S BUF 16 16 0 0 0 0 0 39
Alexander, Kim S BUF 16 0 0 0 0 2 3 149
Linquist, Earl T BUF 16 0 0 0 0 0 2 123
Clausen, Glen OLB BUF 11 0 0 0 0 0 0 210
Sawyer, Juan CB BUF 16 13 4 0 0 1 0 89
Player Pos Team TDs 2PC Pts APYds Avg/G YScrm Avg/G
Swift, Jeremy RB BUF 4 0 24 1036 64.8 1036 64.8
Owens, Gus WR BUF 2 0 12 520 32.5 520 32.5
Spencer, O.J. WR BUF 6 1 38 1589 99.3 475 29.7
Barker, Michael RB BUF 2 0 12 388 24.3 388 24.3
Giles, Carlos WR BUF 1 0 6 357 22.3 347 21.7
Penxa, Bucky WR BUF 1 0 6 305 19.1 305 19.1
Harrison, Roy RB BUF 1 0 6 300 18.8 300 18.8
Rackley, D.J. TE BUF 0 0 0 221 13.8 221 13.8
Mitting, Isaac TE BUF 0 0 0 171 10.7 171 10.7
Fredrickson, Peter TE BUF 0 0 0 146 18.3 146 18.3
Brigham, Lorenzo FB BUF 1 0 6 54 3.4 54 3.4
Gillespie, James WR BUF 0 0 0 380 23.8 31 1.9
Duran, Tommie QB BUF 0 0 0 23 1.9 23 1.9
Small, Russell FB BUF 0 0 0 15 0.9 15 0.9
Cooley, Winston QB BUF 0 0 0 5 1.3 5 1.3
Wisniewski, Tracy QB BUF 0 0 0 3 0.4 3 0.4
Sawyer, Juan CB BUF 1 0 6 241 15.1 0 0.0
Fum - Fumbles, Rec - Fumbles Recovered, FReTD - Fumble Recoveries for Touchdown,
FF - Fumbles Forced, STTck - Special Team Tackles, STPly - Special Team Plays,
TDs - Touchdowns Scored, 2PC - Two-Point Conversions, Pts - Points Scored,
APYds - All-Purpose Yards, Avg/G - All-Purpose Yards per Game,
YScrm - Yards from Scrimmage, Avg/G - Yards from Scrimmage per Game.
QuikSand
05-02-2010, 08:32 PM
From the 2013 post-draft sortable pages:
WR Blaine Hansen 4.44 dash
SS jermaine Kohn, 45 Pspec, 4.53 dash, lots of phony bars
LT Joel Tadlock, 47 Sole, 7.62 agil, two good bars
DT Warren Pribbernow, 34 str, two big bars
DE Benjamin Castillo, same deal
CB Dexter Hasken, 7.06 agil, 33 sole, 2 nearmax return bars
QB Rondell Barker, 90 PSpec, bars for west coast offense
QB Marlon Tartabull, long passing, good lower bars, 34 test
QuikSand
05-02-2010, 08:34 PM
Here is a new file, for those making the effort to keep up (MIJB?)...
http://www.sevenshuffles.com/QuikSand/imtbills_2013.zip
QuikSand
05-02-2010, 08:49 PM
Some quick thoughts on what players we have aboard from the first three seasons are likely to be here long term:
Position Group: QB
Anchor Players/Solid Starters:
Reserves Worth Long Term Spot: Tommie Duran (3x affinity, best performer so far)
Special Teamers/Alternative Uses:
Chemistry Centerpieces:
Position Group: RB/FB
Anchor Players/Solid Starters:
Reserves Worth Long Term Spot:
Special Teamers/Alternative Uses: FB Russell Small (gunner, ST, playable)
Chemistry Centerpieces: FB Vernon Manning
Position Group: WR/TE
Anchor Players/Solid Starters: TE Peter Frederickson (great blocking TE, long snapper)
Reserves Worth Long Term Spot: WR Gus Owens, WR Bucky Penxa
Special Teamers/Alternative Uses:
Chemistry Centerpieces: WR Edward Lee
Position Group: OL
Anchor Players/Solid Starters:
Reserves Worth Long Term Spot: RG Rod McLain (67 Run Bl, affinity leader), LG Ryan Musum, LT Alex Beyer
Special Teamers/Alternative Uses:
Chemistry Centerpieces:
Position Group: DL
Anchor Players/Solid Starters:
Reserves Worth Long Term Spot: NT Clarence Grebene
Special Teamers/Alternative Uses:
Chemistry Centerpieces: DE Justin Godfrey (66 Run D)
Position Group: LB
Anchor Players/Solid Starters: SLB Ray Israelson (quite solid other than Run D)
Reserves Worth Long Term Spot: SILB Ben Brownlee (decent lower bars), WILB Bert Hanaki (66 Run D)
Special Teamers/Alternative Uses: SLB Shannon Wynn (gunner, reserve coverage LB)
Chemistry Centerpieces:
Position Group: DB
Anchor Players/Solid Starters:
Reserves Worth Long Term Spot: CB Xavier Marx, CB Leon Ethridge, CB Juan Sawyer, S Quentin Rutter, S Antonio Lynch
Special Teamers/Alternative Uses:
Chemistry Centerpieces: S Otis Robinson
So, that makes 22 players that I, more or less, figure to have around after another 5, maybe 10, seasons in one capacity or another. Obviously landing a serious creeper or otherwise very useful engine at any position changes the game there... but basically we're still waiting for most of our defensive line and our ball carriers.
MIJB#19
05-03-2010, 11:11 AM
You rang, sir?
MIJB#19
05-03-2010, 11:46 AM
Disappointing affair so far. Even for the early stages, 0-16 and 32's across the board doesn't sound like your average IMT experience...
QB Robbie Everett - Probably has sense rush abilty and has a high Sole score lowish intelligence combo.
RB Levon Malone - receiving skills, affinity(?), WR project?
RB Harry Gaylor - probably overrated, but does seem to have a breakaway speed and hole recognition combo.
RB Rod Bovee - 90+ elusiveness (RB2!), special teams, receiving skills, return skills are fake.
TE Wally Jenkins - no way that 25/59 can be for reall, but worth a shot, no?
WR Deon McLane - return man.
WR Blaine Hanson - big play abilty is probably for real.
OT Stan Klinger - interesting agility score.
OT Rex Goldstein - decent agility score.
OT Greg Kowall - okay 40-time.
DE Leslie Barrett - run stopper.
DE Jay Wynn - very impressive Solescore and agilty test combo.
DE Ted May - pass rusher with play diagnosis.
DE Wade Harding - play diagnosis with pass rushing.
DT Alfred Yoder - pass rush technique, play diagnosis.
DT Leon Mills - 40-time under 5.00.
OLB Alex Hinds - pass defender?
OLB Max Hansen - slightly overrated run defender.
CB Ethan Rayburn - 47 position score.
CB Leslie Davidson - 45 position score.
S Jermaine Kohn - can't be for real, but with a 46 position score, who knows?
albionmoonlight
05-03-2010, 12:48 PM
One interesting twist... QB Tommie Duran, our #2 last year who got around 100 passes in reserve, is already "angry" and unwilling to sign for a year two. I plan to re-sign him after camp if possible, staying at least broadly within my own rules... but will try to avoid such a situation again. In my history, guys who inexplicably are pissed off about playing time are often better than their visible ratings suggest. Interesting tidbit, we'll see if he gets grabbed in free agency before we can reclaim him.
Do you have a sense of whether that kind of inexplicable pissed-off indicates "This guy is actually pretty good" or "This guy is actually better than the starter (which, on our team, does not mean that he is actually any good)"
QuikSand
05-03-2010, 04:37 PM
Do you have a sense of whether that kind of inexplicable pissed-off indicates "This guy is actually pretty good" or "This guy is actually better than the starter (which, on our team, does not mean that he is actually any good)"
On most teams, this is most evident when the starter is, say, a 50/50 guy, and the pissed-off reserve is a 28/38 creeper. Then, I tend to take it as a signal that the young guy has some real room to grow.
Here, I'm not really sure, but I definitely do still consider it a good sign that he's pissed. For instance, none of these other 15/40 stiffs are at all peeved about sitting behind a 15/25 starter. So even if those guys are *truly* 32/32 guys underneath, they don't ever seem to get heady about it.
If that clarifies at all...
QuikSand
05-03-2010, 07:55 PM
..and I take it back. C.J. Stephenson is disgruntled.
QuikSand
05-03-2010, 08:04 PM
Top Ten Most Likely Busts:
Name Team Pos Change
Yoder, Alfred Buffalo RDT -9
Israelson, Ray Buffalo SLB -8
Hinds, Alex Buffalo SLB -7
Kohn, Jermaine Buffalo SS -7
Lee, Edward Buffalo SE -7
Jenkins, Wally Buffalo TE -7
Manning, Vernon Buffalo FB -6
Kelley, Kelvin Buffalo FB -6
Hansen, Max Buffalo SILB -6
Fredrickson, Peter Buffalo TE -5
Top Ten Most Likely Breakouts:
Name Team Pos Change
Springer, Curtis Buffalo P 11
Penxa, Bucky Buffalo FL 5
Greene, Ed Buffalo C 2
Coffey, Joe Buffalo RB 1
Duran, Tommie Buffalo QB 1
Spencer, O.J. Buffalo FL 1
Small, Russell Buffalo FB 1
Gaylor, Harry Buffalo RB 1
Linquist, Earl Buffalo LT 1
Lynch, Antonio Buffalo FS 1
So, we get a random super breakout...and it's from the...punter?!?!?!?? Really? That's a sick joke here.
Nice move from WR Penxa, likely makes him a starter for a while. BUt nothing too serious from any of the rookies. Full report on its way momentarily.
QuikSand
05-03-2010, 08:05 PM
Buffalo Bills Player Report
(IMTBUF2013c - IMTBUF2013d)
<table border="1"><tbody><tr><td>Name</td><td>Pos</td><td>Team</td><td>IMTBUF2013c Current</td><td>IMTBUF2013c Future</td><td>IMTBUF2013d Current</td><td>IMTBUF2013d Future</td><td>Overall Current Change</td><td>Overall Future Change</td></tr><tr><td>Barker, Rondell</td><td>QB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>5</td><td>40</td><td>8 (3)</td><td>37 (-3)</td><td>3</td><td>-3</td></tr><tr><td>Cooley, Winston</td><td>QB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>10</td><td>31</td><td>12 (2)</td><td>32 (1)</td><td>2</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>Duran, Tommie</td><td>QB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>16</td><td>27</td><td>19 (3)</td><td>28 (1)</td><td>3</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>Everett, Robbie</td><td>QB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>15</td><td>40</td><td>19 (4)</td><td>39 (-1)</td><td>4</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr><td>Stephenson, C.J.</td><td>QB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>15</td><td>41</td><td>18 (3)</td><td>41 (0)</td><td>3</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Tartabull, Marlon</td><td>QB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>13</td><td>36</td><td>18 (5)</td><td>33 (-3)</td><td>5</td><td>-3</td></tr><tr><td>Wisniewski, Tracy</td><td>QB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>15</td><td>26</td><td>18 (3)</td><td>27 (1)</td><td>3</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>Barker, Michael</td><td>RB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>26</td><td>31</td><td>27 (1)</td><td>31 (0)</td><td>1</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Bovee, Rod</td><td>RB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>18</td><td>31</td><td>19 (1)</td><td>27 (-4)</td><td>1</td><td>-4</td></tr><tr><td>Coffey, Joe</td><td>RB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>23</td><td>25</td><td>25 (2)</td><td>26 (1)</td><td>2</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>Gaylor, Harry</td><td>RB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>25</td><td>38</td><td>28 (3)</td><td>39 (1)</td><td>3</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>Harrison, Roy</td><td>RB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>22</td><td>39</td><td>24 (2)</td><td>39 (0)</td><td>2</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Malone, Levon</td><td>RB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>27</td><td>44</td><td>28 (1)</td><td>43 (-1)</td><td>1</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr><td>Swift, Jeremy</td><td>RB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>31</td><td>34</td><td>34 (3)</td><td>34 (0)</td><td>3</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Brigham, Lorenzo</td><td>FB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>32</td><td>40</td><td>35 (3)</td><td>40 (0)</td><td>3</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Kelley, Kelvin</td><td>FB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>17</td><td>50</td><td>19 (2)</td><td>44 (-6)</td><td>2</td><td>-6</td></tr><tr><td>Manning, Vernon</td><td>FB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>14</td><td>20</td><td>11 (-3)</td><td>14 (-6)</td><td>-3</td><td>-6</td></tr><tr><td>Small, Russell</td><td>FB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>35</td><td>35</td><td>36 (1)</td><td>36 (1)</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>Fredrickson, Peter</td><td>TE</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>49</td><td>57</td><td>52 (3)</td><td>52 (-5)</td><td>3</td><td>-5</td></tr><tr><td>Jenkins, Wally</td><td>TE</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>26</td><td>61</td><td>29 (3)</td><td>54 (-7)</td><td>3</td><td>-7</td></tr><tr><td>Mitting, Isaac</td><td>TE</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>28</td><td>28</td><td>28 (0)</td><td>28 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Polston, Rick</td><td>TE</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>19</td><td>33</td><td>21 (2)</td><td>33 (0)</td><td>2</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Rackley, D.J.</td><td>TE</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>33</td><td>38</td><td>37 (4)</td><td>38 (0)</td><td>4</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Hansen, Blaine</td><td>FL</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>17</td><td>35</td><td>18 (1)</td><td>32 (-3)</td><td>1</td><td>-3</td></tr><tr><td>McLane, Deon</td><td>FL</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>13</td><td>26</td><td>16 (3)</td><td>24 (-2)</td><td>3</td><td>-2</td></tr><tr><td>Owens, Gus</td><td>FL</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>28</td><td>35</td><td>30 (2)</td><td>36 (1)</td><td>2</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>Penxa, Bucky</td><td>FL</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>24</td><td>31</td><td>30 (6)</td><td>36 (5)</td><td>6</td><td>5</td></tr><tr><td>Spencer, O.J.</td><td>FL</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>28</td><td>28</td><td>29 (1)</td><td>29 (1)</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>Lee, Edward</td><td>SE</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>17</td><td>24</td><td>12 (-5)</td><td>17 (-7)</td><td>-5</td><td>-7</td></tr><tr><td>Bernstein, Marcus</td><td>C</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>14</td><td>52</td><td>21 (7)</td><td>49 (-3)</td><td>7</td><td>-3</td></tr><tr><td>Garrison, Randal</td><td>C</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>15</td><td>38</td><td>18 (3)</td><td>38 (0)</td><td>3</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Greene, Ed</td><td>C</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>36</td><td>37</td><td>39 (3)</td><td>39 (2)</td><td>3</td><td>2</td></tr><tr><td>Musum, Ryan</td><td>LG</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>37</td><td>37</td><td>37 (0)</td><td>37 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Lowery, Brad</td><td>RG</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>25</td><td>33</td><td>27 (2)</td><td>33 (0)</td><td>2</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>McLain, Rod</td><td>RG</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>37</td><td>37</td><td>37 (0)</td><td>37 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Beyer, Alex</td><td>LT</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>27</td><td>27</td><td>28 (1)</td><td>28 (1)</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>Goldstein, Rex</td><td>LT</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>11</td><td>44</td><td>14 (3)</td><td>44 (0)</td><td>3</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Kowall, Greg</td><td>LT</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>11</td><td>52</td><td>13 (2)</td><td>47 (-5)</td><td>2</td><td>-5</td></tr><tr><td>Linquist, Earl</td><td>LT</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>20</td><td>41</td><td>23 (3)</td><td>42 (1)</td><td>3</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>Donovan, Tommie</td><td>RT</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>23</td><td>53</td><td>26 (3)</td><td>50 (-3)</td><td>3</td><td>-3</td></tr><tr><td>Klinger, Stan</td><td>RT</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>18</td><td>44</td><td>21 (3)</td><td>45 (1)</td><td>3</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>Nygaard, Gino</td><td>RT</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>26</td><td>30</td><td>27 (1)</td><td>30 (0)</td><td>1</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Federspiel, Jimmie</td><td>K</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>39</td><td>39</td><td>40 (1)</td><td>40 (1)</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>Springer, Curtis</td><td>P</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>35</td><td>35</td><td>46 (11)</td><td>46 (11)</td><td>11</td><td>11</td></tr><tr><td>Castillo, Benjamin</td><td>LDE</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>19</td><td>23</td><td>19 (0)</td><td>22 (-1)</td><td>0</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr><td>Chapman, Corey</td><td>LDE</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>29</td><td>32</td><td>30 (1)</td><td>30 (-2)</td><td>1</td><td>-2</td></tr><tr><td>Wynn, Jay</td><td>LDE</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>10</td><td>44</td><td>13 (3)</td><td>40 (-4)</td><td>3</td><td>-4</td></tr><tr><td>Ballard, Kendall</td><td>LDT</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>29</td><td>29</td><td>29 (0)</td><td>29 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Mills, Lionel</td><td>RDT</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>16</td><td>36</td><td>19 (3)</td><td>35 (-1)</td><td>3</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr><td>Pribbernow, Warren</td><td>RDT</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>16</td><td>20</td><td>17 (1)</td><td>20 (0)</td><td>1</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Yoder, Alfred</td><td>RDT</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>12</td><td>43</td><td>13 (1)</td><td>34 (-9)</td><td>1</td><td>-9</td></tr><tr><td>Grebene, Clarence</td><td>NT</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>29</td><td>29</td><td>29 (0)</td><td>29 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Barrett, Leslie</td><td>RDE</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>9</td><td>31</td><td>11 (2)</td><td>31 (0)</td><td>2</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Godfrey, Justin</td><td>RDE</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>29</td><td>29</td><td>30 (1)</td><td>30 (1)</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>Harding, Wade</td><td>RDE</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>15</td><td>38</td><td>17 (2)</td><td>34 (-4)</td><td>2</td><td>-4</td></tr><tr><td>May, Ted</td><td>RDE</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>13</td><td>37</td><td>16 (3)</td><td>36 (-1)</td><td>3</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr><td>Sanaee, Bubba</td><td>RDE</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>31</td><td>31</td><td>31 (0)</td><td>31 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Clausen, Glen</td><td>SLB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>18</td><td>33</td><td>21 (3)</td><td>33 (0)</td><td>3</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Hinds, Alex</td><td>SLB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>18</td><td>49</td><td>19 (1)</td><td>42 (-7)</td><td>1</td><td>-7</td></tr><tr><td>Israelson, Ray</td><td>SLB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>42</td><td>42</td><td>34 (-8)</td><td>34 (-8)</td><td>-8</td><td>-8</td></tr><tr><td>Wynn, Shannon</td><td>SLB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>26</td><td>32</td><td>28 (2)</td><td>32 (0)</td><td>2</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Brownlee, Ben</td><td>SILB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>36</td><td>36</td><td>36 (0)</td><td>36 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Hansen, Max</td><td>SILB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>12</td><td>58</td><td>17 (5)</td><td>52 (-6)</td><td>5</td><td>-6</td></tr><tr><td>Whitfield, Willie</td><td>SILB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>28</td><td>28</td><td>28 (0)</td><td>28 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Hanaki, Bert</td><td>WILB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>34</td><td>34</td><td>35 (1)</td><td>35 (1)</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>Fletcher, Jamie</td><td>WLB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>27</td><td>37</td><td>29 (2)</td><td>36 (-1)</td><td>2</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr><td>Linquist, Todd</td><td>WLB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>27</td><td>27</td><td>26 (-1)</td><td>26 (-1)</td><td>-1</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr><td>Sherman, Orlando</td><td>WLB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>13</td><td>19</td><td>15 (2)</td><td>19 (0)</td><td>2</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Davison, Leslie</td><td>LCB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>15</td><td>29</td><td>17 (2)</td><td>29 (0)</td><td>2</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Marx, Xavier</td><td>LCB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>32</td><td>35</td><td>34 (2)</td><td>34 (-1)</td><td>2</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr><td>Ethridge, Leon</td><td>RCB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>26</td><td>31</td><td>28 (2)</td><td>31 (0)</td><td>2</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Rayburn, Ethan</td><td>RCB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>15</td><td>30</td><td>17 (2)</td><td>29 (-1)</td><td>2</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr><td>Sawyer, Juan</td><td>RCB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>23</td><td>34</td><td>25 (2)</td><td>33 (-1)</td><td>2</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr><td>Alexander, Kim</td><td>SS</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>25</td><td>37</td><td>27 (2)</td><td>37 (0)</td><td>2</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Kohn, Jermaine</td><td>SS</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>15</td><td>45</td><td>16 (1)</td><td>38 (-7)</td><td>1</td><td>-7</td></tr><tr><td>Robinson, Otis</td><td>SS</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>19</td><td>26</td><td>22 (3)</td><td>26 (0)</td><td>3</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Rutter, Quentin</td><td>SS</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>29</td><td>42</td><td>33 (4)</td><td>42 (0)</td><td>4</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Lynch, Antonio</td><td>FS</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>31</td><td>40</td><td>35 (4)</td><td>41 (1)</td><td>4</td><td>1</td></tr></tbody></table>
QuikSand
05-03-2010, 08:06 PM
Ugh, just noticed the big hot on LB Israelson. Sucks. Possibly excepting the starting TE, that was pretty clearly our best player. I assume it was just random, so he may remain our starter, but a random LSOD for a team like this is pretty unkind.
QuikSand
05-03-2010, 08:07 PM
By the way, QB Duran gained two more formation to 14, while Wisniewski stuck at 10. I think Duran is the starter for this year.
jwolf02
05-03-2010, 08:45 PM
Been lurking for a couple days, but I'm really enjoying this thread. Learning a lot. Thanks for posting.
QuikSand
05-03-2010, 10:31 PM
Well, I'd comment... but instead I'll let the numbers do the talking.
Front Office Football 2007
2013 Summary for Buffalo Bills
Year 2013
Record 1-15
Winning Pct. .062
All-Time 10-70
Winning Pct. .125
Playoffs 0-0
Playoff Visits 0
Bowl Wins 0
Head Coach Sam Frederick
Record 4-60
Winning Pct. .062
Off. Coord. J. Gooding
Def. Coord. A. Newton
Buffalo Bills Team Rank
Rushes per Game 20.7 31
Rushing Yards 74.8 32
Yards Per Carry 3.61 31
Pass Attempts 31.9 20 (T)
Completions 13.1 32
Completion Pct. 41.1 32
Passing Yards 138.4 32
Yards Per Attempt 4.33 32
Yards Per Catch 10.54 23
Total Yardage Gained 199.3 32
3rd Down Conversions 25.1 32
Points Per Game 12.1 31
Pass Rush Pct. 14.7 31
Pass Defense Pct. 36.9 30
Turnovers 27 17 (T)
Turnover Margin 0 15 (T)
Opponents Team Rank
Rushes per Game 38.1 32
Rushing Yards 163.0 32
Yards Per Carry 4.28 25
Pass Attempts 26.6 2
Completions 18.6 6 (T)
Completion Pct. 69.9 31
Passing Yards 213.4 14
Yards Per Attempt 8.03 31
Yards Per Catch 11.49 28
Total Yardage Gained 366.8 30
3rd Down Conversions 42.9 30
Points Per Game 24.4 28
Pass Rush Pct. 27.0 32
Pass Defense Pct. 100.0 32
Turnovers 27 13 (T)
Week Team Versus Oppnt
1 6 at NYJ 24
2 16 CAR 17
3 21 at KCY 24
4 10 CLE 24
5 13 at MIA 17
6 10 at PIT 22
7 30 at BAL 23
8 7 NYJ 13
9 7 CIN 31
10 10 at NED 34
12 13 at NOS 41
13 6 JAX 20
14 22 at TBY 24
15 0 NED 31
16 9 ATL 21
17 13 MIA 24
Passing Pos Att Comp Yards Y/Att TD Int Rate
3 T. Duran QB 316 134 1495 4.73 5 13 45.3
17 T. Wisniewski QB 189 74 708 3.75 0 8 32.7
**Team --- 511 210 2214 4.33 5 24 38.0
$$Opp --- 425 297 3414 8.03 29 11 105.8
Rushing Pos Att Yards Y/Att TD Fum
34 J. Swift RB 175 642 3.67 4 1
Front Office Football 2007
44 L. Malone RB 83 299 3.60 1 2
43 H. Gaylor RB 34 126 3.71 0 1
**Team --- 331 1196 3.61 5 9
$$Opp --- 609 2608 4.28 13 22
Receiving Pos Targ Catch Yards Y/Ctc Y/Tar Drop TD
13 G. Owens WR 137 59 535 9.07 3.91 7 2
85 D. Rackley TE 151 52 496 9.54 3.28 13 1
41 P. Fredrickson TE 55 25 240 9.60 4.36 2 0
83 O. Spencer WR 63 23 287 12.48 4.56 5 1
80 W. Jenkins TE 45 16 199 12.44 4.42 4 0
Defense Pos Tack Asst Sack Hurr Ints Defn PDPct
91 B. Hanaki ILB 92 43 0.5 1 2 3 77.3
26 Q. Rutter S 75 28 0.0 0 1 2 75.1
54 R. Israelson OLB 72 22 0.0 1 0 4 68.9
52 W. Whitfield ILB 62 24 1.0 0 0 2 73.7
92 J. Fletcher OLB 56 17 3.0 5 0 0 78.2
22 L. Ethridge CB 52 7 0.0 0 2 7 75.4
30 A. Lynch S 51 19 0.0 0 1 5 78.3
31 X. Marx CB 43 9 0.0 0 1 4 75.8
24 L. Davison CB 38 9 0.0 0 2 5 80.2
50 B. Brownlee ILB 37 14 1.0 1 0 1 78.0
55 T. Linquist OLB 33 14 6.0 8 1 0 82.4
98 B. Sanaee DE 32 10 1.5 3 0 0 82.5
71 B. Castillo DE 30 9 2.5 6 0 1 82.5
37 J. Sawyer CB 29 7 0.0 0 0 0 69.4
90 T. May DE 29 15 2.5 2 0 0 79.9
79 J. Godfrey DE 27 15 2.0 1 0 0 81.1
74 C. Grebene DT 23 13 2.5 5 0 1 82.9
29 J. Kohn S 23 10 0.0 0 0 2 75.1
39 K. Alexander S 21 12 0.0 0 1 3 83.5
96 K. Ballard DT 17 6 0.0 2 0 0 79.5
QuikSand
05-03-2010, 10:33 PM
Not sure what is the right thing to do here. Just wait things out until cohesion and chemistry start to work in our favor? Make a real commitment toward a gameplan, and start being more selective in the style of player we bring aboard to fit the system? Not sure.
QuikSand
05-03-2010, 10:45 PM
Draft screen notes:
WR Jamie Hamilton 4.42/6.96
QB Wesley Fialho 4.52, 34 test, 84 PSpec
QB Freddie Meier, big bars
G Paul Greco, 3 blues
QuikSand
05-03-2010, 10:48 PM
New file, into the next free agency period:
http://www.sevenshuffles.com/QuikSand/imtbills2014.zip
Very open to just about any thoughts here, at this point.
albionmoonlight
05-04-2010, 07:18 AM
I'd keep with Duran. At a minimum, maybe we learn a bit more about why he was so angry.
Also, maybe just so we have something to do other than rinse, repeat, I think that we should commit to a gameplan and try to work toward it to the extent possible. I don't even think that it really matters what kind of gameplan--just something around which to build.
And, finally, if this goes on for 20 years with no noticeable improvement, then maybe FOF has changed such that IMT success is no longer possible. If that is the case, then maybe it should evolve into a "no players before the 4th round" kind of thing.
But, I think that we are a ways from that. I have confidence that the IMT guys will do just fine once they get used to playing together.
QuikSand
05-04-2010, 08:39 AM
That's a pretty good summary of my feelings as well.
My base thinking right now:
-our best OL are run-first guys at G... and there really aren't any serious passers in this bunch, it seems... so I'd think that a play toward a run-first and controlled passing would make the most sense as the base offense...trouble is, without big bars at accuracy and getting downfield, I fear that the 6.3 version of the short passing offense will be pretty well emasculated (if I'm understanding correctly the people who have been working on this stuff since the latest patches)
-As for defense, I have no real plan -- I have never been really crafty enough to come up with much of a base defensive gameplan other than "don't get caught with your pants down" meaning lots of median expectations and not too much blitzing... I don't have much more creative than that, to be honest (especially for a team that is not an offensive powerhouse)
albionmoonlight
05-04-2010, 08:54 AM
I've never had any idea how to defensive gameplan ever since Jim fixed the "blitz with one guy 100% of the time" exploit.
Maybe a running offense with a more balanced passing attack (i.e. a bit more downfield than one would otherwise have with a ball-control attack).
MIJB#19
05-04-2010, 10:58 AM
Dang you rookie defensive linemen for not breaking out... :rant:
MIJB#19
05-04-2010, 11:17 AM
Draft screen notes:
WR Jamie Hamilton 4.42/6.96Must get player.
QuikSand
05-04-2010, 12:13 PM
Must get player.
I don't have the game up, but he's one of those guys with really weak bars... including the BPR, which shoudl have been good if that dash was any indication. Not sure if that means he will remain low-rated but will play over his ratings (a long time hunch) of it that suggests the 4.42 is just a mirage (and most of the rest of him is too). He'll definitely come to camp.
Also, it looks like I (in manually setting depth charts, which I don't do very often playing solo) benched the WR with a X in his name, and now he is livid. I will plan to do the re-sign after camp game with him, but it's possible he walks off and signs elsewhere. My bad.
QuikSand
05-04-2010, 01:59 PM
Three guys where a picture might provoke some discussion:
http://www.sevenshuffles.com/QuikSand/imtbills2014.jpg
WR Hamilton... with "must get" combines and dreadful bars. AT least there's room for that BPR to be maybe a 40 or so... but still, what do we expect from this guy? Creeps up to 30? Plays better than that?
DE Benjamin Castillo - drafted for two big bars and an affinity. Got to start most of last year due to injury and my curiosity. State were on par for general low-rated guy. Rookie camp was -1 overall. Any reason to think this guy is going to develop to bring those top two bars (the ones I actually care about) in line with the rest, or is this guy now basically a finished product?
QB Tommie Duran - I guess he's our starter. Do these bars help determine what we ought to be doing with him back there?
albionmoonlight
05-04-2010, 02:07 PM
Hamilton: No idea. Do we still think that the combine bars translate to other positions? Since he has no skills at WR, do we try something crazy and change him to a DB or an RB? I haven't really played with that much at all in FOF, so I have no idea if that is crazy talk or not.
Castillo: Even if those top two bars show some improvement, can we really expect them to get to where we want them to be?
As for Duran, a QB without the ability to throw the ball between 11-30 yards is a . . . liability. That said, I think that we need to stick with the guy. And decentish bars at deep and 3rd down passing give us something which with to work.
I might try a run heavy offense with a slant toward the deep ball, and give him receivers to try and match that. His timing and sense rush bars mean that he can take those longer drops and maybe not get sacked so much and maybe even make a play out of it.
Just my 2c
QuikSand
05-04-2010, 02:28 PM
Castillo: Even if those top two bars show some improvement, can we really expect them to get to where we want them to be?
Okay, here's my more detailed thinking here:
In careers with limitations (empty cupboard, etc), I have a lot of experience fiddling around with a very low-skill offensive line... or at least a line where I won't invest much draft/cap capital. And in doing so, there's a certain "pattern" player that I have become pretty fond of. His initial bars will look zero or near zero in the areas that I generally consider to be the keys to on-field performance: run blocking and pass blocking. But he will have a strong, even maxed-out bar in blocking strength. High endurance is another good sign, but I don't think it's essential for this pattern of player.
I have had a lot of experience landing guys like that, giving them playing time, and watching their bars in the top two areas move from voids to... well, pretty decent. Not studs, but guys who in time might be rated 30 or 40 in run blocking and pass blocking, which isn't bad given the late-round of after-draft investment required to get them. Actually, if you had the files for this IMT Bills team, you'd see that our current starting LT Alex Beyer is a mini-=creeping version of that style of player (though I don't think he will ever get to 30 on those top bars, I bet they have moved up since he started playing). Anyway... general concept: guys with a strong bar in a fixed skill can see the lousy or zero bars in the more variable skills start to drift up in time.
So... that's my theory with DE Castillo. I confess that I don't have a lot of past with guys like this at DE, as I am rarely patient enough to play them for long. But I halfway expected to see (and still do) some development of those zero/zero bars in Run D and PR Tech into the 5-1- range and then beyond. Would he eventually get to 40 in each? Don't know. Would he maybe play better than the zeroes would suggest? Don't know. But I have a theory, at least, that this guy was worth a season or three as a starter to find out.
albionmoonlight
05-04-2010, 02:34 PM
Well then, I defer to your better sense of these guys. And this is all a learning process anyway. So, play him and see if we can't learn this guy some run defense.
MalcPow
05-04-2010, 03:16 PM
Just typing up thoughts on random guys...
QB Patrick Cobb - The combines are within solid ranges and I tend to like guys who have bars that flow in a bit of a reverse J shape. (Yes, I'm serious.)
QB Jorge McElroy - Good combines, biggish long passing bar, percent developed does not match his 5/34 rating.
QB Corey Davison - Gotta give the no combine guy a look with that Sol and Pos.
WR Raymond Staat - Gotta get him. Paired GD and End bars, good big p, combines that fit for a solid starter in all places, 17 pct dev is way off 15/35 rating.
WR Ralph Bennett and WR Vince Bernard - I dunno, give a look, cut immediately if you don't get a +3 or more in camp.
WR Tracy Rund - Worth a camp. No combine, possible paired bar and decent looking big play.
LT Everett Price - Love a guy like this. Solid combines, pct dev mismatch, big block strength bar and funny reverse J to other bars.
I'll keep looking, but those are some guys I'd be interested in following as a start.
MalcPow
05-04-2010, 03:21 PM
For shits and giggles, have you considered playing a lot of Cs out of position in the other slots on your offensive line? You can usually get some better guys that way, and, maybe this has changed, but I did some testing that didn't see much of a negative to depth charting in all centers instead of sticking with lesser OL guys in proper spots. *shurg*
MalcPow
05-04-2010, 03:52 PM
C Kenny Delgado - Might be a quality body who gets somewhere with playing time.
WILB Daniel Canady - A few decent combines, could be a solid guy.
WILB Chester Hanson - Good strgt and punish, big pos.
MLB Alex Blair - Solid pos and good bars.
SLB Donovan Kirk - Seems to have some interesting things happening.
S Ross Wheelock - A few things to like with the combines and pct dev.
S Rick Brayshaw - Decent combines.
S O.J. Biletnikoff - Shurg. Generally speaking, I think it's tough to find good corners like this. Might have to just convert safeties and stuff.
Anyway, that's it for now. Would be a little interested in watching these guys through a camp.
MIJB#19
05-04-2010, 05:36 PM
Hamilton: No idea. Do we still think that the combine bars translate to other positions? Since he has no skills at WR, do we try something crazy and change him to a DB or an RB? I haven't really played with that much at all in FOF, so I have no idea if that is crazy talk or not.I'd like to see where that get downfield and big play bar sit after camp. His combine scores send a message of a wingman type, not thinking in the 90's, but more of a 65ish type of guy in those two particular areas.
QuikSand
05-04-2010, 07:27 PM
I put Hamilton's current BPR at between 35-39. I don't think there's any real give in that rating... he's never going to be a 65 or even a 50 guy at BPR without a random breakout.
QuikSand
05-04-2010, 08:12 PM
Here are some pre-camp markers for our rookie receivers:
Name - GD, BPR
Rund - 16/76, 36
Bernard - 20, 38
Staat - 24/90, 64
Bennett - 16/21, 40
Hamilton - 27/30, 39
QuikSand
05-04-2010, 08:12 PM
Top Ten Most Likely Busts:
Name Team Pos Change
Meier, Freddie Buffalo QB -8
Jamison, Charlie Buffalo RB -8
Monroe, Marshall Buffalo K -7
Wheelock, Ross Buffalo SS -4
Lowery, Brad Buffalo RG -4
Kirk, Donovan Buffalo SLB -4
Blair, Alex Buffalo SILB -3
Delgado, Kennedy Buffalo LG -3
McElroy, Jorge Buffalo QB -2
Wynn, Shannon Buffalo SLB -2
Top Ten Most Likely Breakouts:
Name Team Pos Change
Spencer, O.J. Buffalo FL 6
Price, Everett Buffalo LT 3
Fredrickson, Peter Buffalo TE 3
Staat, Raymond Buffalo FL 2
Bennett, Ralph Buffalo SE 2
Bernard, Vince Buffalo SE 2
Cobb, Patrick Buffalo QB 2
Ethridge, Leon Buffalo RCB 1
Coffey, Joe Buffalo RB 1
Duran, Tommie Buffalo QB 1
QuikSand
05-04-2010, 08:13 PM
Buffalo Bills Player Report
(IMTBUF2014c - IMTBUF2014d)
<table border="1"><tbody><tr><td>Name</td><td>Pos</td><td>Team</td><td>IMTBUF2014c Current</td><td>IMTBUF2014c Future</td><td>IMTBUF2014d Current</td><td>IMTBUF2014d Future</td><td>Overall Current Change</td><td>Overall Future Change</td></tr><tr><td>Cobb, Patrick</td><td>QB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>8</td><td>24</td><td>11 (3)</td><td>26 (2)</td><td>3</td><td>2</td></tr><tr><td>Davison, Corey</td><td>QB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>7</td><td>45</td><td>12 (5)</td><td>45 (0)</td><td>5</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Duran, Tommie</td><td>QB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>21</td><td>28</td><td>24 (3)</td><td>29 (1)</td><td>3</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>Fialho, Wesley</td><td>QB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>4</td><td>31</td><td>7 (3)</td><td>31 (0)</td><td>3</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>McElroy, Jorge</td><td>QB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>5</td><td>36</td><td>8 (3)</td><td>34 (-2)</td><td>3</td><td>-2</td></tr><tr><td>Meier, Freddie</td><td>QB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>9</td><td>57</td><td>12 (3)</td><td>49 (-8)</td><td>3</td><td>-8</td></tr><tr><td>Stephenson, C.J.</td><td>QB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>18</td><td>41</td><td>21 (3)</td><td>42 (1)</td><td>3</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>Wisniewski, Tracy</td><td>QB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>21</td><td>29</td><td>23 (2)</td><td>30 (1)</td><td>2</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>Coffey, Joe</td><td>RB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>26</td><td>26</td><td>27 (1)</td><td>27 (1)</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>Gaylor, Harry</td><td>RB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>29</td><td>39</td><td>32 (3)</td><td>39 (0)</td><td>3</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Jamison, Charlie</td><td>RB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>31</td><td>52</td><td>27 (-4)</td><td>44 (-8)</td><td>-4</td><td>-8</td></tr><tr><td>Malone, Levon</td><td>RB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>28</td><td>40</td><td>30 (2)</td><td>40 (0)</td><td>2</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Swift, Jeremy</td><td>RB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>34</td><td>34</td><td>34 (0)</td><td>34 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Brigham, Lorenzo</td><td>FB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>37</td><td>37</td><td>37 (0)</td><td>37 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Manning, Vernon</td><td>FB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>11</td><td>14</td><td>12 (1)</td><td>14 (0)</td><td>1</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Small, Russell</td><td>FB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>35</td><td>35</td><td>35 (0)</td><td>35 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Fredrickson, Peter</td><td>TE</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>55</td><td>55</td><td>58 (3)</td><td>58 (3)</td><td>3</td><td>3</td></tr><tr><td>Jenkins, Wally</td><td>TE</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>31</td><td>48</td><td>34 (3)</td><td>48 (0)</td><td>3</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Rackley, D.J.</td><td>TE</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>36</td><td>36</td><td>36 (0)</td><td>36 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Hamilton, Jamie</td><td>FL</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>8</td><td>19</td><td>9 (1)</td><td>19 (0)</td><td>1</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>McLane, Deon</td><td>FL</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>15</td><td>24</td><td>17 (2)</td><td>24 (0)</td><td>2</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Owens, Gus</td><td>FL</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>31</td><td>31</td><td>32 (1)</td><td>32 (1)</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>Rund, Tracy</td><td>FL</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>8</td><td>25</td><td>10 (2)</td><td>26 (1)</td><td>2</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>Spencer, O.J.</td><td>FL</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>28</td><td>28</td><td>34 (6)</td><td>34 (6)</td><td>6</td><td>6</td></tr><tr><td>Staat, Raymond</td><td>FL</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>14</td><td>35</td><td>18 (4)</td><td>37 (2)</td><td>4</td><td>2</td></tr><tr><td>Bennett, Ralph</td><td>SE</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>10</td><td>16</td><td>12 (2)</td><td>18 (2)</td><td>2</td><td>2</td></tr><tr><td>Bernard, Vince</td><td>SE</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>12</td><td>21</td><td>14 (2)</td><td>23 (2)</td><td>2</td><td>2</td></tr><tr><td>Hansen, Blaine</td><td>SE</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>17</td><td>30</td><td>19 (2)</td><td>30 (0)</td><td>2</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Lee, Edward</td><td>SE</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>11</td><td>17</td><td>13 (2)</td><td>17 (0)</td><td>2</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Bernstein, Marcus</td><td>C</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>24</td><td>47</td><td>30 (6)</td><td>47 (0)</td><td>6</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Greene, Ed</td><td>C</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>38</td><td>38</td><td>39 (1)</td><td>39 (1)</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>Delgado, Kennedy</td><td>LG</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>9</td><td>51</td><td>12 (3)</td><td>48 (-3)</td><td>3</td><td>-3</td></tr><tr><td>Musum, Ryan</td><td>LG</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>37</td><td>37</td><td>36 (-1)</td><td>36 (-1)</td><td>-1</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr><td>Greco, Paul</td><td>RG</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>11</td><td>43</td><td>15 (4)</td><td>43 (0)</td><td>4</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Lowery, Brad</td><td>RG</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>26</td><td>32</td><td>24 (-2)</td><td>28 (-4)</td><td>-2</td><td>-4</td></tr><tr><td>McLain, Rod</td><td>RG</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>37</td><td>37</td><td>37 (0)</td><td>37 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Beyer, Alex</td><td>LT</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>29</td><td>29</td><td>28 (-1)</td><td>28 (-1)</td><td>-1</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr><td>Linquist, Earl</td><td>LT</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>24</td><td>38</td><td>27 (3)</td><td>37 (-1)</td><td>3</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr><td>Price, Everett</td><td>LT</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>13</td><td>29</td><td>15 (2)</td><td>32 (3)</td><td>2</td><td>3</td></tr><tr><td>Donovan, Tommie</td><td>RT</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>33</td><td>48</td><td>39 (6)</td><td>48 (0)</td><td>6</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Klinger, Stan</td><td>RT</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>22</td><td>45</td><td>26 (4)</td><td>46 (1)</td><td>4</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>Federspiel, Jimmie</td><td>K</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>39</td><td>39</td><td>40 (1)</td><td>40 (1)</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>Monroe, Marshall</td><td>K</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>35</td><td>71</td><td>35 (0)</td><td>64 (-7)</td><td>0</td><td>-7</td></tr><tr><td>Springer, Curtis</td><td>P</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>44</td><td>44</td><td>45 (1)</td><td>45 (1)</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>Castillo, Benjamin</td><td>LDE</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>19</td><td>22</td><td>20 (1)</td><td>23 (1)</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>Chapman, Corey</td><td>LDE</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>29</td><td>29</td><td>29 (0)</td><td>29 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Ballard, Kendall</td><td>LDT</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>29</td><td>29</td><td>29 (0)</td><td>29 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Grebene, Clarence</td><td>NT</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>30</td><td>30</td><td>29 (-1)</td><td>29 (-1)</td><td>-1</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr><td>Godfrey, Justin</td><td>RDE</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>30</td><td>30</td><td>30 (0)</td><td>30 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>May, Ted</td><td>RDE</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>19</td><td>35</td><td>23 (4)</td><td>35 (0)</td><td>4</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Sanaee, Bubba</td><td>RDE</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>29</td><td>29</td><td>29 (0)</td><td>29 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Hinds, Alex</td><td>SLB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>19</td><td>37</td><td>21 (2)</td><td>37 (0)</td><td>2</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Israelson, Ray</td><td>SLB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>35</td><td>35</td><td>34 (-1)</td><td>34 (-1)</td><td>-1</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr><td>Kirk, Donovan</td><td>SLB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>18</td><td>38</td><td>20 (2)</td><td>34 (-4)</td><td>2</td><td>-4</td></tr><tr><td>Wynn, Shannon</td><td>SLB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>27</td><td>31</td><td>29 (2)</td><td>29 (-2)</td><td>2</td><td>-2</td></tr><tr><td>Blair, Alex</td><td>SILB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>14</td><td>46</td><td>17 (3)</td><td>43 (-3)</td><td>3</td><td>-3</td></tr><tr><td>Brownlee, Ben</td><td>SILB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>36</td><td>36</td><td>36 (0)</td><td>36 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Whitfield, Willie</td><td>SILB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>27</td><td>27</td><td>27 (0)</td><td>27 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Canady, Daniel</td><td>WILB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>10</td><td>31</td><td>13 (3)</td><td>32 (1)</td><td>3</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>Hanaki, Bert</td><td>WILB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>34</td><td>34</td><td>35 (1)</td><td>35 (1)</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>Hansen, Chester</td><td>WILB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>8</td><td>20</td><td>10 (2)</td><td>20 (0)</td><td>2</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Fletcher, Jamie</td><td>WLB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>29</td><td>36</td><td>31 (2)</td><td>36 (0)</td><td>2</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Linquist, Todd</td><td>WLB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>25</td><td>25</td><td>26 (1)</td><td>26 (1)</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>Davison, Leslie</td><td>LCB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>20</td><td>29</td><td>22 (2)</td><td>29 (0)</td><td>2</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Marx, Xavier</td><td>LCB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>34</td><td>34</td><td>35 (1)</td><td>35 (1)</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>Ethridge, Leon</td><td>RCB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>28</td><td>28</td><td>29 (1)</td><td>29 (1)</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>Sawyer, Juan</td><td>RCB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>25</td><td>28</td><td>27 (2)</td><td>27 (-1)</td><td>2</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr><td>Alexander, Kim</td><td>SS</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>28</td><td>35</td><td>31 (3)</td><td>36 (1)</td><td>3</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>Biletnikoff, O.J.</td><td>SS</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>22</td><td>37</td><td>24 (2)</td><td>37 (0)</td><td>2</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Robinson, Otis</td><td>SS</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>23</td><td>23</td><td>24 (1)</td><td>24 (1)</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>Rutter, Quentin</td><td>SS</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>37</td><td>42</td><td>41 (4)</td><td>41 (-1)</td><td>4</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr><td>Wheelock, Ross</td><td>SS</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>12</td><td>52</td><td>15 (3)</td><td>48 (-4)</td><td>3</td><td>-4</td></tr><tr><td>Brayshaw, Rick</td><td>FS</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>14</td><td>28</td><td>16 (2)</td><td>28 (0)</td><td>2</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Kohn, Jermaine</td><td>FS</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>17</td><td>34</td><td>20 (3)</td><td>34 (0)</td><td>3</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Lynch, Antonio</td><td>FS</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>40</td><td>40</td><td>41 (1)</td><td>41 (1)</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr></tbody></table>
QuikSand
05-04-2010, 08:14 PM
Looks like MP tagged a few guys this round who can develop into pretty useful players. Thanks!
QuikSand
05-04-2010, 08:16 PM
Here are some pre-camp markers for our rookie receivers:
Name - GD, BPR
Rund - 16/76, 36
Bernard - 20, 38
Staat - 24/90, 64
Bennett - 16/21, 40
Hamilton - 27/30, 39
And the after-camp:
Rund - 18/68, 36
Bernard - 25, 40
Staat - 29/85, 63
Bennett - 19/27, 41
Hamilton - 30/36, 38
QuikSand
05-04-2010, 08:58 PM
With Penxa willing to come back, I see our WR depth chart for this year looking something like:
FL Spencer, Owens
SE Penxa, Staat
We will keep Lee as the inactive affinity gimp, so we probably want to carry one or maybe two more guys on our roster of 53. Neither Bennett nor Bernard looks like much right now, but the +2 camp says keep them... and even Rund gave a +1. 2nd year man Hansen has 34/52 GD and 68 BPR, but I'm considering chucking him for the younger set... by the bars right now, that looks like a crazy move.
QuikSand
05-04-2010, 08:59 PM
...and I don't see any way that Jamie Hamilton makes the team, with a zero camp and an 8/18 rating. Two very good combines notwithstanding, the guy doesn't seem to be able to play.
MIJB#19
05-05-2010, 05:41 AM
Interesting stuff with Hamilton. That's basically going to make me throw my own drafting theories out the window.
albionmoonlight
05-05-2010, 08:01 AM
We gave Hamilton every chance to prove us something with those combines. It's on him.
QuikSand
05-05-2010, 08:17 AM
Well... as far as I'm concerned, the goals of this career are split somewhere between winning and learning. If we had no talent at WR, I'd probaly be thinking "let's give this Hamilton kid a chance to play, maybe as the FL2 or something, and we'll see if he posts numbers better than his lousy bars suggest." But given the fact that we now have maybe six legitimate guys easily ahead of him at the position, it would be pretty dumb to do so, I think.
QuikSand
05-05-2010, 08:19 AM
On the "learning" front, I'll offer this to anyone reading. The game files are right there for anyone who might like to go back, look at the after-draft pool, check out these guys that MalcPow singled out (and his brief reasoning why) and see what can be learned from that. I'm not sure that we have any future superstars here... but picking up *six* camp creepers from one post-draft pool is pretty impressive.
MalcPow
05-05-2010, 08:44 AM
On Hamilton... I just don't trust a WR with a 7 bench, or anything below an 11. I'd much rather have a 4.51/11/7.20 guy with a 50+ big play bar than a guy like Hamilton, who may very well be worth something but I've just never seen a guy like that work out in a big enough way that it's worth taking the time.
I also like what happened with Staat, a 63 big play bar makes me think we really have something there. I'd try to get him in as our third receiver at the very least, maybe even start him in the second half when the season's likely a bit of a lost cause.
MalcPow
05-05-2010, 08:49 AM
As another learning note, when I, or others, talk about things like paired bars... the really interesting thing is that these paired bars are often really just indicators. A guy with a set of high paired bars will often end up looking like a guy who has similar ratings in all categories across the board, and at a slightly lower level than the initial paired bars might be at. It is a funny thing to watch, but, over time, the high pair will regress a bit and the other ratings will keep growing.
I would not be surprised if Staat is a guy like this and he ends up close to a 60/60 with fairly even ratings.
MIJB#19
05-05-2010, 10:51 AM
Staat's blue bars actually looks like what I'd expect Hamilton to eventually look like based on his combine scores.
With the game saved, there's actually room to 'test' what would happen with Staat and Hamilton on the same team... hmmmm... :D
QuikSand
05-05-2010, 11:05 AM
MIJB, I think you're seeing a whole lot more variability in the BPR bar than is conventional wisdom. Most of us are pretty well resigned to the notion that it pretty much is what it is, setting aside small scout error and the occasional random boom/bust. I don't have a sense that we see many (any?) guys -- even profound creepers -- who gain anything like 10-20 points there.
Just in the FWIW column.
MIJB#19
05-05-2010, 01:59 PM
I hear ya, QS. I'm not much different, I would have cut the guy too.
MIJB#19
05-05-2010, 02:12 PM
Will be interesting to see when/if the cohesion and chemistry start working for the team now.
QuikSand
05-05-2010, 08:48 PM
Cutting down to 53 (well, 54 with one on IR) is very tough.
I set up a 60-20-20 base offense, with a bit more downfield passing than I might have otherwise gotten into with a simpler team. We'll give WR Staat the chance to start at FL right away, but will use a rotation at WR overall. RB Harry Gaylor will be the starter at RB, but that too will be a 3-man rotation by design, with no obvious standout.
QuikSand
05-05-2010, 08:49 PM
By the way, I forgot the check at the start of the season, but our cohesion stands at 71-90-73-72... below average everywhere but along the OL.
QuikSand
05-05-2010, 08:58 PM
Front Office Football 2007
2014 Summary for Buffalo Bills
Year 2014
Record 2-14
Winning Pct. .125
All-Time 12-84
Winning Pct. .125
Playoffs 0-0
Playoff Visits 0
Bowl Wins 0
Head Coach Sam Frederick
Record 6-74
Winning Pct. .075
Off. Coord. J. Gooding
Def. Coord. A. Newton
Buffalo Bills Team Rank
Rushes per Game 23.0 31
Rushing Yards 92.9 31
Yards Per Carry 4.04 16
Pass Attempts 38.8 4
Completions 18.5 30
Completion Pct. 47.7 32
Passing Yards 207.1 25
Yards Per Attempt 5.33 31
Yards Per Catch 11.19 11
Total Yardage Gained 285.2 30
3rd Down Conversions 30.9 32
Points Per Game 12.8 32
Pass Rush Pct. 17.1 25
Pass Defense Pct. 37.3 30
Turnovers 33 26 (T)
Turnover Margin -10 23 (T)
Opponents Team Rank
Rushes per Game 35.7 32
Rushing Yards 153.1 32
Yards Per Carry 4.29 24
Pass Attempts 28.7 1 (T)
Completions 18.9 3 (T)
Completion Pct. 66.0 27
Passing Yards 206.6 5
Yards Per Attempt 7.20 27
Yards Per Catch 10.91 18
Total Yardage Gained 352.3 28
3rd Down Conversions 36.1 9
Points Per Game 24.6 30
Pass Rush Pct. 23.3 31
Pass Defense Pct. 71.1 32
Turnovers 23 22 (T)
Week Team Versus Oppnt
1 3 NED 16
2 11 at GBY 26
3 34 BAL 23
4 20 MIA 27
5 6 at DEN 23
6 3 at OAK 23
8 0 SDO 23
9 16 at NYJ 20
10 17 KCY 27
11 14 at NED 23
12 3 DET 20
13 26 at IND 32
14 16 at MIN 34
15 23 at MIA 38
16 0 CHI 31
17 13 NYJ 7
Passing Pos Att Comp Yards Y/Att TD Int Rate
3 T. Duran QB 489 230 2474 5.06 6 17 51.9
17 T. Wisniewski QB 132 66 839 6.36 5 2 76.5
**Team --- 621 296 3313 5.33 11 19 57.2
$$Opp --- 459 303 3306 7.20 18 10 91.1
Rushing Pos Att Yards Y/Att TD Fum
44 L. Malone RB 176 664 3.77 2 5
Front Office Football 2007
43 H. Gaylor RB 150 669 4.46 2 0
**Team --- 368 1487 4.04 5 31
$$Opp --- 571 2450 4.29 21 22
Receiving Pos Targ Catch Yards Y/Ctc Y/Tar Drop TD
13 G. Owens WR 114 52 692 13.31 6.07 7 3
18 R. Staat WR 95 48 578 12.04 6.08 12 2
10 B. Penxa WR 103 43 424 9.86 4.12 12 1
83 O. Spencer WR 83 38 485 12.76 5.84 13 0
41 P. Fredrickson TE 52 26 314 12.08 6.04 1 3
89 V. Bernard WR 53 22 255 11.59 4.81 7 2
81 R. Bennett WR 40 19 292 15.37 7.30 3 0
Defense Pos Tack Asst Sack Hurr Ints Defn PDPct
50 B. Brownlee ILB 102 39 1.0 1 0 2 74.4
91 B. Hanaki ILB 92 35 0.0 1 1 4 76.2
26 Q. Rutter S 80 31 2.5 0 3 5 82.0
54 R. Israelson OLB 53 22 0.5 4 0 9 75.6
30 A. Lynch S 50 22 0.0 0 1 3 79.5
92 J. Fletcher OLB 45 19 3.5 9 0 0 76.0
37 J. Sawyer CB 43 15 0.0 0 1 4 76.9
24 L. Davison CB 41 13 0.0 0 1 3 75.7
38 O. Biletnikoff CB 41 10 0.0 0 1 4 74.6
39 K. Alexander S 40 14 0.0 0 2 4 78.9
79 J. Godfrey DE 39 14 3.0 5 0 0 81.3
74 C. Grebene DT 38 7 2.5 7 0 0 81.6
95 D. Canady ILB 35 7 1.5 0 0 1 66.3
31 X. Marx CB 34 9 0.0 0 0 2 72.8
35 A. Hinds OLB 34 14 0.5 4 0 0 74.5
71 B. Castillo DE 29 9 1.5 10 0 0 80.7
96 K. Ballard DT 24 9 0.5 3 0 0 80.3
90 T. May DE 16 13 3.0 6 0 0 82.5
QuikSand
05-05-2010, 09:42 PM
Some quick comments from the draft page:
RB Alan Meteer - huge bars for receiving, intriguing
FB Shannon Giles
TE Craig Milgate - red 2tr +2 blues
DT Antonio Brunner - 4.93 dash
NY B.J. Samuels - bar pattern
QuikSand
05-05-2010, 09:43 PM
http://www.sevenshuffles.com/QuikSand/imtbuf2015.zip
QuikSand
05-06-2010, 11:32 AM
Perhaps it is time to hand the reins over to QB Patrick Cobb? No complete voids in his bars... I am always awry of guys who have an absolute zero, especially in something we plan to do fairly often (like throw for 11-30 yards).
MalcPow
05-06-2010, 12:28 PM
I think we need to sign some of these guys:
QB Edward Eliot - No combine guy with decent sol and pos, high-ish sense rush bar.
RB Tracy McNulty - No combine with decent brk and sp outside. Should creep some, but probably not a future star.
WR Terrell Keith - Another must have WR like Staat from last year. Solid looking big play bar, combines are where we'd hope, and pct dev is way off of 18/32 rating. Only downside is he went to Syracuse.
WR O.J. de la Garza - Decent combines, speculative guy.
WR Darryl Singleton - Some big bars, bare minimum combines, probably a mega-bust waiting to happen but shurg.
WR Butch Kemp - A lot to like with him. Some decent combines. Probably won't be a star but we'll see if he bumps in camp.
WR Willie Lans - No combine speculation pick.
RT Kevin Shepherd - No combine with good bar signature, size, and pct dev/rating discrepancy. Like him a lot.
RG Steve McKnight - Roll the dice, maybe a future 45/45 guy.
DE Bernard Fagan - Don't like him much, but it seems to be pretty tough to land DLs in this format. Give him a camp.
DT Jamal Young, DE Eric Verba, Leroy Broestl - Ditto above.
SLB Brenden Coggins - Looks to be worth a camp. I may just be all googly over his pos score.
I'm not sure what we do on the QB front, looks like Cobb is creeping a little. Be interested to see what happens in camp.
QuikSand
05-06-2010, 07:43 PM
Okay, unlikely to get to this tonight...camp likely in the morning.
QuikSand
05-07-2010, 09:26 AM
Sorry if formatting is fouled up here, no CT handy:
Player # Pos Start Exp Current Estimate Future Estimate C Current Estimate Future dCE dFE
Duran, Tommie 3 QB 5 27 29 29 29 2 0
Wisniewski, Tracy 17 QB 6 24 30 27 30 3 0
Davison, Corey 11 QB 2 12 46 15 46 3 0
Cobb, Patrick 12 QB 2 12 27 14 27 2 0
Mullens, Clay 4 QB 1 9 35 13 35 4 0
Eliot, Edward 8 QB 1 10 44 13 40 3 -4
Gaylor, Harry 43 RB 3 35 39 38 40 3 1
Malone, Levon 44 RB 3 30 35 31 31 1 -4
Meteer, Alan 49 RB 1 28 64 29 55 1 -9
Pascal, Trevor 23 RB 1 26 44 26 41 0 -3
Jamison, Charlie 27 RB 2 25 41 24 38 -1 -3
Dreisbach, Chris 33 RB 1 20 28 21 28 1 0
McNulty, Tracy 34 RB 1 18 20 20 22 2 2
Brigham, Lorenzo 46 FB 6 37 37 37 37 0 0
Prado, Carl 36 FB 1 27 46 33 50 6 4
Benton, Jumbo 28 FB 1 23 44 26 41 3 -3
Small, Russell 40 FB 6 34 34 25 25 -9 -9
Giles, Shannon 48 FB 1 14 49 18 46 4 -3
Manning, Vernon 45 FB 6 12 14 10 11 -2 -3
Fredrickson, Peter 41 TE 5 60 60 60 60 0 0
Rackley, D.J. 85 TE 5 35 35 35 35 0 0
Milgate, Craig 80 TE 1 25 49 28 50 3 1
Winslett, Rex 86 TE 1 21 57 25 52 4 -5
Owens, Gus 13 FL 5 31 31 31 31 0 0
Staat, Raymond 18 FL 2 23 39 25 39 2 0
Singleton, Darryl 88 FL 1 20 46 22 43 2 -3
Keith, Terrell 84 FL 1 18 32 21 32 3 0
Lans, Willie 1 FL 1 17 29 18 28 1 -1
de la Garza, O.J. 7 FL 1 10 26 12 25 2 -1
Penxa, Bucky 10 SE 4 34 38 37 38 3 0
Spencer, O.J. 83 SE 6 33 33 33 33 0 0
Bernard, Vince 89 SE 2 17 25 19 25 2 0
Kemp, Butch 2 SE 1 14 30 16 28 2 -2
Bennett, Ralph 81 SE 2 14 20 15 20 1 0
Lee, Edward 82 SE 6 12 16 6 6 -6 -10
Bernstein, Marcus 59 C 3 32 42 38 43 6 1
Musum, Ryan 67 LG 6 36 36 36 36 0 0
McLain, Rod 60 RG 6 37 37 37 37 0 0
Greco, Paul 65 RG 2 17 42 20 42 3 0
McKnight, Steve 61 RG 1 16 33 17 34 1 1
Beyer, Alex 76 LT 6 29 29 29 29 0 0
Price, Everett 78 LT 2 19 33 21 33 2 0
Donovan, Tommie 62 RT 3 43 43 41 41 -2 -2
Klinger, Stan 68 RT 3 27 46 30 45 3 -1
Shepherd, Kevin 64 RT 1 18 47 19 44 1 -3
Springer, Curtis 14 P 5 44 44 49 49 5 5
Monroe, Marshall 19 K 2 39 58 39 58 0 0
Fortmann, Nate 73 LDE 1 23 30 24 28 1 -2
Castillo, Benjamin 71 LDE 3 21 23 21 23 0 0
Broestl, Leroy 97 LDE 1 12 26 13 25 1 -1
Godfrey, Justin 79 RDE 6 30 30 31 31 1 1
May, Ted 90 RDE 3 26 35 30 35 4 0
Ross, Harold 75 RDE 1 19 25 20 24 1 -1
Fagan, Bernard 70 RDE 1 12 31 14 31 2 0
Verba, Eric 72 RDE 1 11 46 11 38 0 -8
Ballard, Kendall 96 LDT 6 29 29 29 29 0 0
Young, Jamal 94 RDT 1 14 19 15 19 1 0
Grebene, Clarence 74 NT 5 29 29 29 29 0 0
Samuels, B.J. 93 NT 1 23 34 23 33 0 -1
Brownlee, Ben 50 SILB 5 36 36 36 36 0 0
Hanaki, Bert 91 WILB 6 34 34 35 35 1 1
Canady, Daniel 95 WILB 2 16 32 20 33 4 1
Israelson, Ray 54 SLB 6 35 35 36 36 1 1
Hinds, Alex 35 SLB 3 21 30 23 23 2 -7
Coggins, Brenden 51 SLB 1 21 39 22 36 1 -3
Bordelon, Korey 52 SLB 1 18 25 20 26 2 1
Fletcher, Jamie 92 WLB 4 33 36 35 35 2 -1
Linquist, Todd 55 WLB 6 25 25 17 17 -8 -8
Marx, Xavier 31 LCB 5 34 34 35 35 1 1
Biletnikoff, O.J. 38 LCB 2 27 40 30 40 3 0
Davison, Leslie 24 LCB 3 23 29 24 24 1 -5
Sawyer, Juan 37 RCB 4 27 27 27 27 0 0
Ethridge, Leon 22 RCB 5 28 28 26 26 -2 -2
Comella, Dwayne 25 RCB 1 8 14 9 16 1 2
Rutter, Quentin 26 SS 6 41 41 42 42 1 1
Alexander, Kim 39 SS 5 32 32 33 33 1 1
Robinson, Otis 42 SS 6 24 24 18 18 -6 -6
Lynch, Antonio 30 FS 5 42 42 42 42 0 0
Kohn, Jermaine 29 FS 3 18 27 19 27 1 0
QuikSand
05-07-2010, 10:55 AM
Okay, cuts down to 55 made, preseason run, and now I'm looking at the final cuts.
I am thinking QB Wisniewski is one of them. I have 4 on hand now, with Duran as the incumbent starter (and a 3x affinity guy), Cobb looking like Plan B for this year, and Davison a not-so-bad 3x affinity guy for our 3rd spot (potential long term keep there at minsal forever).
Wisniewski has Ldr 46, Int 34, Pers 12... I forget what combo of those leads to mentorship, but I don't see that coming soon, which would be a strong reason to keep him around. Wiz is also unhappy, meaning we'd have to give him some starts this year to re-sign him, probably.
I'm thinking he goes here.
QuikSand
05-07-2010, 11:11 AM
Okay, into the season, and seeing something really weird. The depth chart at RB looks like this:
RB1: Gaylor, 80%, 0 End
RB2: Meteer, 65/79
3&S: Gaylor
PSD: Malone, 9
PS+: Gaylor
Through three games, where we have been pretty competitive in each, by the way, here's the carry total:
Gaylor 5
Meteer 60
QBs total 6
Malone 0
FBs total 0
*shurg*
Haven't put a single RB with endurance on this team to date... but I don't recall ever seeing anything like this.
QuikSand
05-07-2010, 11:16 AM
Oh, hey... looks like I have Rb2 slotted as the starter in pretty much every formation. So, there's that, I guess.
QuikSand
05-07-2010, 11:16 AM
gadget AI-busting gameplan FTL
albionmoonlight
05-07-2010, 11:17 AM
weird. Does Gaylor nominally start every game? Can we tell?
albionmoonlight
05-07-2010, 11:17 AM
dola: never mind, then.
MalcPow
05-07-2010, 11:18 AM
Hehehe
QuikSand
05-07-2010, 11:23 AM
Moving on... 303 now, only one blowout loss, Duran is (6/5, 7.12) at QB for a rating of 76. Clearly the team's best start yet.
QuikSand
05-07-2010, 11:28 AM
So...uhhh...probably good that I picked 3-3 to post that mid-season snippet. Things didn't exactly carry on from there as we may have hoped.
Front Office Football 2007
2015 Summary for Buffalo Bills
Year 2015
Record 4-12
Winning Pct. .250
All-Time 16-96
Winning Pct. .142
Playoffs 0-0
Playoff Visits 0
Bowl Wins 0
Head Coach Sam Frederick
Record 10-86
Winning Pct. .104
Off. Coord. K. Clark
Def. Coord. A. Newton
Buffalo Bills Team Rank
Rushes per Game 23.1 31
Rushing Yards 87.2 31
Yards Per Carry 3.78 32
Pass Attempts 34.4 9
Completions 17.0 32
Completion Pct. 49.5 32
Passing Yards 203.3 30
Yards Per Attempt 5.91 31
Yards Per Catch 11.96 5
Total Yardage Gained 278.1 32
3rd Down Conversions 34.1 30
Points Per Game 14.0 31
Pass Rush Pct. 16.9 22 (T)
Pass Defense Pct. 41.6 23
Turnovers 41 32
Turnover Margin -22 32
Opponents Team Rank
Rushes per Game 35.1 32
Rushing Yards 145.3 31
Yards Per Carry 4.14 13
Pass Attempts 27.6 2
Completions 18.6 3
Completion Pct. 67.6 29
Passing Yards 213.6 6
Yards Per Attempt 7.75 29
Yards Per Catch 11.47 24
Total Yardage Gained 345.0 23
3rd Down Conversions 42.3 25 (T)
Points Per Game 22.8 25
Pass Rush Pct. 21.5 27
Pass Defense Pct. 88.0 32
Turnovers 19 27
Week Team Versus Oppnt
1 20 at MIA 26
2 24 PHI 17
3 17 at BAL 20
4 27 at TEN 14
5 14 at IND 44
6 20 HOU 16
7 3 MIA 14
9 21 JAX 28
10 10 at NYJ 30
11 16 NED 13
12 14 at DAL 24
13 14 DEN 17
14 3 WAS 30
15 9 NYJ 13
16 3 at NYK 30
17 9 at NED 28
Passing Pos Att Comp Yards Y/Att TD Int Rate
3 T. Duran QB 403 203 2429 6.03 12 20 58.4
12 P. Cobb QB 112 46 598 5.34 1 10 24.3
11 C. Davison QB 35 23 226 6.46 1 1 81.3
**Team --- 550 272 3253 5.91 14 31 52.9
$$Opp --- 441 298 3417 7.75 21 12 95.2
Rushing Pos Att Yards Y/Att TD Fum
9 A. Meteer RB 170 727 4.28 6 2
43 H. Gaylor RB 138 506 3.67 1 2
**Team --- 369 1395 3.78 7 19
$$Opp --- 561 2324 4.14 17 23
Receiving Pos Targ Catch Yards Y/Ctc Y/Tar Drop TD
18 R. Staat WR 119 53 776 14.64 6.52 7 4
10 B. Penxa WR 114 52 721 13.87 6.32 11 2
83 O. Spencer WR 99 47 511 10.87 5.16 4 1
84 T. Keith WR 61 32 356 11.13 5.84 4 4
13 G. Owens WR 37 18 284 15.78 7.68 2 1
41 P. Fredrickson TE 38 17 194 11.41 5.11 3 1
43 H. Gaylor RB 22 16 136 8.50 6.18 0 0
Defense Pos Tack Asst Sack Hurr Ints Defn PDPct
50 B. Brownlee ILB 101 28 0.0 1 0 3 70.9
26 Q. Rutter S 80 36 3.0 0 2 3 80.5
91 B. Hanaki ILB 76 31 1.0 0 0 0 72.6
92 J. Fletcher OLB 64 24 12.5 7 0 1 80.5
30 A. Lynch S 60 21 0.0 0 1 3 72.0
52 K. Bordelon OLB 53 18 1.5 0 2 5 77.6
31 X. Marx CB 46 11 1.0 0 1 11 81.5
39 K. Alexander S 43 19 0.0 1 1 1 74.2
37 J. Sawyer CB 40 10 0.0 0 1 3 75.4
79 J. Godfrey DE 37 12 1.0 4 0 0 79.1
24 L. Davison CB 33 11 0.0 0 2 4 76.7
95 D. Canady ILB 32 15 0.0 4 1 1 83.0
74 C. Grebene DT 31 12 0.5 3 0 0 82.5
96 K. Ballard DT 28 9 6.5 3 0 0 82.0
38 O. Biletnikoff CB 28 15 0.0 0 1 7 84.0
90 T. May DE 27 10 1.5 5 0 0 80.7
54 R. Israelson OLB 25 8 2.0 2 0 2 74.0
71 B. Castillo DE 22 10 1.5 7 0 0 80.7
albionmoonlight
05-07-2010, 11:48 AM
24.3 qb rating? Damn. Way to take the initiative there, Cobb.
QuikSand
05-07-2010, 11:51 AM
When the season was lost, I thought it wise to give Cobb a few starts (last 3 games, all single-digit scores for us). His bars continue to progress, so I think there's still hope there... but it's hard to tell quite where we are.
QuikSand
05-07-2010, 11:58 AM
From the draft screen:
WR Marco Torrence - wow, 4.43 dash/30 sole/6.90 agil - might be a WR who can actually, you know, get open
CB Anton George - 4.46 and a 45 Pos
SLB Lionel Burbage - 4.53 dash and good lower bars
MLB Duane McGillicuddy - 43 test, some big bars
QB Lawrence Dunn - 13 str, 3 blues
QB Max Morris - 36/12
TE Gino Knievel - 3 blues, 1 awesome name
C Andy Kelly, blue dash, max run bar
QuikSand
05-07-2010, 12:03 PM
Latest offseason's files: http://www.sevenshuffles.com/QuikSand/imtbuf2016.zip
MIJB#19
05-07-2010, 12:58 PM
might be a WR who can actually, you know, get open and make a big playFixed?
QuikSand
05-07-2010, 04:23 PM
Well, for whatever reason, most of our WR lineup is guys with a low RR rating. We have several with pretty respectable bars in either BPR or GD (or both), but it's the "getting open" thing (however you translate that to FOFspeak) that I sense we are missing. With those combines, if Torrence can creep and play, then between him and Staat maybe we have a serious starting twosome, finally, with the rest of the lot more or less playing as collective wingmen.
MIJB#19
05-07-2010, 04:44 PM
True, having one WR with decent RR (and some play making skills) does help. I didn't realize they were all very low on RR (although, I should have known with the type of talent around after the draft.
QuikSand
05-08-2010, 10:39 AM
Top Ten Most Likely Busts:
Name Team Pos Change
Brigham, Lorenzo Buffalo FB -10
Marx, Xavier Buffalo LCB -10
Covington, Donny Buffalo TE -9
Spencer, O.J. Buffalo SE -8
Small, Russell Buffalo FB -8
Fredrickson, Peter Buffalo TE -7
Tanner, George Buffalo SILB -7
Biletnikoff, O.J. Buffalo LCB -6
McGillicuddy, Duane Buffalo MLB -6
Ethridge, Leon Buffalo RCB -6
Top Ten Most Likely Breakouts:
Name Team Pos Change
Richmond, Happenstance Buffalo RB 5
Gaylor, Harry Buffalo RB 2
Bernstein, Marcus Buffalo C 2
May, Ted Buffalo RDE 2
Rackley, D.J. Buffalo TE 1
Meteer, Alan Buffalo RB 1
Knievel, Gino Buffalo TE 1
Alexander, Kim Buffalo SS 1
Dunn, Lawrence Buffalo QB 1
Broestl, Leroy Buffalo LDE 1
QuikSand
05-08-2010, 10:43 AM
Of the meaningful movers here:
RB Richmond was highly developed and had an out-of-the-box name, seemed worth a look... bars are still unimpressive, but he now gets some time in the rotation, I think, wita +5 camp
Tough hits at CB, where both Marx and Biletnikoff were getting a lot of playing time.
WR Spencer might have faded his way right out of playing time in a crowded WR group.
No move from WR Torrence... disappointing. I really don't understand that at all. How can he have been so great at the combines? The fact that his bars were so low, and every single team passed on him round after round suggests it was (duh) the combine that was the anomaly, but I really don't get it with guys like this. I might have drafted that guy in round two in a MP draft, or might have been neaten to the punch to do so, even.
QuikSand
05-08-2010, 10:43 AM
Buffalo Bills Player Report
(IMTBUF2016c - IMTBUF2016d)
<table border="1"><tbody><tr><td>Name</td><td>Pos</td><td>Team</td><td>IMTBUF2016c Current</td><td>IMTBUF2016c Future</td><td>IMTBUF2016d Current</td><td>IMTBUF2016d Future</td><td>Overall Current Change</td><td>Overall Future Change</td></tr><tr><td>Cobb, Patrick</td><td>QB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>17</td><td>29</td><td>19 (2)</td><td>30 (1)</td><td>2</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>Davison, Corey</td><td>QB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>16</td><td>46</td><td>20 (4)</td><td>47 (1)</td><td>4</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>Dunn, Lawrence</td><td>QB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>5</td><td>24</td><td>7 (2)</td><td>25 (1)</td><td>2</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>Duran, Tommie</td><td>QB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>30</td><td>30</td><td>30 (0)</td><td>30 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Morris, Max</td><td>QB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>4</td><td>26</td><td>6 (2)</td><td>27 (1)</td><td>2</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>Gaylor, Harry</td><td>RB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>41</td><td>41</td><td>43 (2)</td><td>43 (2)</td><td>2</td><td>2</td></tr><tr><td>McNulty, Tracy</td><td>RB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>22</td><td>24</td><td>23 (1)</td><td>24 (0)</td><td>1</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Meteer, Alan</td><td>RB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>34</td><td>49</td><td>37 (3)</td><td>50 (1)</td><td>3</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>Richmond, Happenstance</td><td>RB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>20</td><td>22</td><td>23 (3)</td><td>27 (5)</td><td>3</td><td>5</td></tr><tr><td>Brigham, Lorenzo</td><td>FB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>35</td><td>35</td><td>25 (-10)</td><td>25 (-10)</td><td>-10</td><td>-10</td></tr><tr><td>Manning, Vernon</td><td>FB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>10</td><td>11</td><td>9 (-1)</td><td>9 (-2)</td><td>-1</td><td>-2</td></tr><tr><td>Prado, Carl</td><td>FB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>38</td><td>46</td><td>45 (7)</td><td>45 (-1)</td><td>7</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr><td>Small, Russell</td><td>FB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>25</td><td>25</td><td>17 (-8)</td><td>17 (-8)</td><td>-8</td><td>-8</td></tr><tr><td>Covington, Donny</td><td>TE</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>21</td><td>56</td><td>23 (2)</td><td>47 (-9)</td><td>2</td><td>-9</td></tr><tr><td>Fredrickson, Peter</td><td>TE</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>62</td><td>62</td><td>55 (-7)</td><td>55 (-7)</td><td>-7</td><td>-7</td></tr><tr><td>Knievel, Gino</td><td>TE</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>20</td><td>34</td><td>22 (2)</td><td>35 (1)</td><td>2</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>Milgate, Craig</td><td>TE</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>31</td><td>50</td><td>33 (2)</td><td>50 (0)</td><td>2</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Rackley, D.J.</td><td>TE</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>34</td><td>34</td><td>35 (1)</td><td>35 (1)</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>Keith, Terrell</td><td>FL</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>23</td><td>31</td><td>25 (2)</td><td>32 (1)</td><td>2</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>Luethje, Rex</td><td>FL</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>21</td><td>48</td><td>23 (2)</td><td>43 (-5)</td><td>2</td><td>-5</td></tr><tr><td>Owens, Gus</td><td>FL</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>30</td><td>30</td><td>31 (1)</td><td>31 (1)</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>Staat, Raymond</td><td>FL</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>34</td><td>41</td><td>37 (3)</td><td>37 (-4)</td><td>3</td><td>-4</td></tr><tr><td>Bennett, Ralph</td><td>SE</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>17</td><td>21</td><td>18 (1)</td><td>22 (1)</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>Lee, Edward</td><td>SE</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>6</td><td>6</td><td>3 (-3)</td><td>3 (-3)</td><td>-3</td><td>-3</td></tr><tr><td>Penxa, Bucky</td><td>SE</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>39</td><td>39</td><td>39 (0)</td><td>39 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Spencer, O.J.</td><td>SE</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>33</td><td>33</td><td>25 (-8)</td><td>25 (-8)</td><td>-8</td><td>-8</td></tr><tr><td>Torrence, Marco</td><td>SE</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>12</td><td>24</td><td>15 (3)</td><td>25 (1)</td><td>3</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>Bernstein, Marcus</td><td>C</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>43</td><td>43</td><td>45 (2)</td><td>45 (2)</td><td>2</td><td>2</td></tr><tr><td>Kelly, Andy</td><td>C</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>25</td><td>47</td><td>29 (4)</td><td>44 (-3)</td><td>4</td><td>-3</td></tr><tr><td>Musum, Ryan</td><td>LG</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>36</td><td>36</td><td>36 (0)</td><td>36 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>McKnight, Steve</td><td>RG</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>20</td><td>35</td><td>22 (2)</td><td>34 (-1)</td><td>2</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr><td>McLain, Rod</td><td>RG</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>37</td><td>37</td><td>37 (0)</td><td>37 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Beyer, Alex</td><td>LT</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>30</td><td>30</td><td>29 (-1)</td><td>29 (-1)</td><td>-1</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr><td>Price, Everett</td><td>LT</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>27</td><td>35</td><td>29 (2)</td><td>35 (0)</td><td>2</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Donovan, Tommie</td><td>RT</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>41</td><td>41</td><td>39 (-2)</td><td>39 (-2)</td><td>-2</td><td>-2</td></tr><tr><td>Klinger, Stan</td><td>RT</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>30</td><td>45</td><td>34 (4)</td><td>45 (0)</td><td>4</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Monroe, Marshall</td><td>K</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>38</td><td>38</td><td>39 (1)</td><td>39 (1)</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>Springer, Curtis</td><td>P</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>47</td><td>47</td><td>48 (1)</td><td>48 (1)</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>Broestl, Leroy</td><td>LDE</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>13</td><td>24</td><td>14 (1)</td><td>25 (1)</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>Castillo, Benjamin</td><td>LDE</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>22</td><td>22</td><td>21 (-1)</td><td>21 (-1)</td><td>-1</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr><td>Ballard, Kendall</td><td>LDT</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>29</td><td>29</td><td>28 (-1)</td><td>28 (-1)</td><td>-1</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr><td>Grebene, Clarence</td><td>NT</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>29</td><td>29</td><td>29 (0)</td><td>29 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Godfrey, Justin</td><td>RDE</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>30</td><td>30</td><td>30 (0)</td><td>30 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>May, Ted</td><td>RDE</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>34</td><td>35</td><td>37 (3)</td><td>37 (2)</td><td>3</td><td>2</td></tr><tr><td>Morton, Wes</td><td>RDE</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>23</td><td>41</td><td>26 (3)</td><td>38 (-3)</td><td>3</td><td>-3</td></tr><tr><td>Bordelon, Korey</td><td>SLB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>24</td><td>26</td><td>26 (2)</td><td>26 (0)</td><td>2</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Burbage, Lionel</td><td>SLB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>19</td><td>38</td><td>21 (2)</td><td>34 (-4)</td><td>2</td><td>-4</td></tr><tr><td>Coggins, Brenden</td><td>SLB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>22</td><td>34</td><td>24 (2)</td><td>34 (0)</td><td>2</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Israelson, Ray</td><td>SLB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>37</td><td>37</td><td>36 (-1)</td><td>36 (-1)</td><td>-1</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr><td>Moseley, Ted</td><td>SLB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>21</td><td>45</td><td>23 (2)</td><td>40 (-5)</td><td>2</td><td>-5</td></tr><tr><td>Brownlee, Ben</td><td>SILB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>36</td><td>36</td><td>35 (-1)</td><td>35 (-1)</td><td>-1</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr><td>Tanner, George</td><td>SILB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>17</td><td>56</td><td>20 (3)</td><td>49 (-7)</td><td>3</td><td>-7</td></tr><tr><td>Canady, Daniel</td><td>WILB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>23</td><td>33</td><td>27 (4)</td><td>34 (1)</td><td>4</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>Hanaki, Bert</td><td>WILB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>33</td><td>33</td><td>33 (0)</td><td>33 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>McGillicuddy, Duane</td><td>MLB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>14</td><td>44</td><td>16 (2)</td><td>38 (-6)</td><td>2</td><td>-6</td></tr><tr><td>Ellison, Richie</td><td>WLB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>20</td><td>37</td><td>24 (4)</td><td>35 (-2)</td><td>4</td><td>-2</td></tr><tr><td>Fletcher, Jamie</td><td>WLB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>34</td><td>34</td><td>33 (-1)</td><td>33 (-1)</td><td>-1</td><td>-1</td></tr><tr><td>Linquist, Todd</td><td>WLB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>16</td><td>16</td><td>16 (0)</td><td>16 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Biletnikoff, O.J.</td><td>LCB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>32</td><td>40</td><td>34 (2)</td><td>34 (-6)</td><td>2</td><td>-6</td></tr><tr><td>Davison, Leslie</td><td>LCB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>24</td><td>24</td><td>25 (1)</td><td>25 (1)</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>Marx, Xavier</td><td>LCB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>33</td><td>33</td><td>23 (-10)</td><td>23 (-10)</td><td>-10</td><td>-10</td></tr><tr><td>Ethridge, Leon</td><td>RCB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>25</td><td>25</td><td>19 (-6)</td><td>19 (-6)</td><td>-6</td><td>-6</td></tr><tr><td>Sawyer, Juan</td><td>RCB</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>27</td><td>27</td><td>27 (0)</td><td>27 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Alexander, Kim</td><td>SS</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>32</td><td>32</td><td>33 (1)</td><td>33 (1)</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr><tr><td>Robinson, Otis</td><td>SS</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>18</td><td>18</td><td>15 (-3)</td><td>15 (-3)</td><td>-3</td><td>-3</td></tr><tr><td>Rutter, Quentin</td><td>SS</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>41</td><td>41</td><td>41 (0)</td><td>41 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>Lynch, Antonio</td><td>FS</td><td>Buffalo</td><td>42</td><td>42</td><td>42 (0)</td><td>42 (0)</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr></tbody></table>
QuikSand
05-08-2010, 12:29 PM
Pasted from another thread for reference... I intend to start documenting this team's cohesion and chemistry at the start of each season from here out, and to mark cohesion I'll be using this calculation.
AffIndex = This custom affinity index weights the various affinity factors from each team – each affinity or conflict is included, and weighted by strength. It is designed so that a completely random effect would yield a zero – either absolutely no chemistry effects, or else two affinities for every conflict. The actual weightings I used are as follows: Mild Affinity +2, Affinity +3, Strong Affinity +4, Exceptional Affinity +5, and QB Affinity +2 --with corresponding conflicts each twice as strong in the negative. I don’t have a lot to go on that this is “correct” but it certainly captures the overall picture for that team’s roster in a single number reasonably well.
QuikSand
05-08-2010, 01:17 PM
Quick notes on cutdowns:
-LB Burbage dropped in camp, but has two good bars that make me think he is likely the future for us at WLB... but this year he will spend on IR with an injury. Next season, though, he may step right into that starting job (where I think Fletcher's 12 sacks last year were a fluke).
-RB is one of the last spots to resolve, and I decide to dump former starter Gaylor. Only about 4 ypc in three years, I think we know what we have in him - no affinity, and no variable skills. We will stick with big-barred and versatile Meteer, and the two young creepers in McNulty and Richmond, with rookie Richmond slotting in as the starter right away, I think, McNulty as the #2, and Meteer as the passing down back (and primary PR/KR).
-My thinking is that we will start off with Duran in at QB, and then at the halfway point we will reassess. If the team is still in its doldrums, I plan to slot in Cobb for the latter half of the season, and see what each guy gives us.
-I think I'm done with Castillo as the LDE starter... we'll reinstate run-stopper Godfery at the RDE slot, and move pass rusher Ted May over to LDE to start, where he ought to at least be able to post a handful of sacks (Castillo still is zero in Run D and PR Tech, while May is rated 17,55/56... Castillo has posted 5.5 sacks in 3 seasons as a starter, May posted 7 in the same time as a reserve)
And, after we pare down to 53, here's the intangibles snapshot on opening day:
Roster rating: 1 (32nd, second to last is 25)
Cohesion ratings: 64 (30th), 100/96, 67 (t25th), 88 (7th)
AffIndex: 89
QuikSand
05-08-2010, 01:55 PM
Okay, at the halfway point:
Front Office Football 2007
2016 Summary for Buffalo Bills
Year 2016
Record 2-6
Winning Pct. .250
All-Time 18-102
Winning Pct. .150
Playoffs 0-0
Playoff Visits 0
Bowl Wins 0
Head Coach Sam Frederick
Record 12-92
Winning Pct. .115
Off. Coord. K. Clark
Def. Coord. A. Newton
Buffalo Bills Team Rank
Rushes per Game 21.1 31
Rushing Yards 73.0 32
Yards Per Carry 3.46 30
Pass Attempts 35.4 8
Completions 18.3 24 (T)
Completion Pct. 51.6 32
Passing Yards 209.5 20
Yards Per Attempt 5.92 26
Yards Per Catch 11.48 9
Total Yardage Gained 263.4 30
3rd Down Conversions 30.5 29
Points Per Game 15.5 28
Pass Rush Pct. 19.1 18 (T)
Pass Defense Pct. 40.8 24
Turnovers 17 31
Turnover Margin -7 29
Opponents Team Rank
Rushes per Game 32.6 28
Rushing Yards 123.8 24
Yards Per Carry 3.79 8
Pass Attempts 30.4 8
Completions 19.6 12
Completion Pct. 64.6 24
Passing Yards 193.5 6
Yards Per Attempt 6.37 15
Yards Per Catch 9.86 5
Total Yardage Gained 304.1 14
3rd Down Conversions 40.2 18
Points Per Game 22.3 25
Pass Rush Pct. 21.8 24
Pass Defense Pct. 78.0 32
Turnovers 10 17 (T)
Week Team Versus Oppnt
1 20 at NYJ 24
2 7 at ARI 16
3 13 DEN 30
4 0 CLE 27
5 24 at MIA 21
6 27 at PIT 30
7 14 at BAL 24
8 19 NYJ 6
9 CIN
10 at NED
12 STL
13 at IND
14 at SEA
15 NED
16 SFO
17 MIA
Passing Pos Att Comp Yards Y/Att TD Int Rate
3 T. Duran QB 250 132 1537 6.15 9 9 68.7
12 P. Cobb QB 33 14 139 4.21 1 2 39.8
**Team --- 283 146 1676 5.92 10 11 65.3
$$Opp --- 243 157 1548 6.37 10 4 89.3
Rushing Pos Att Yards Y/Att TD Fum
28 H. Richmond RB 81 278 3.43 0 4
Front Office Football 2007
34 T. McNulty RB 42 129 3.07 1 1
9 A. Meteer RB 32 109 3.41 0 5
**Team --- 169 584 3.46 1 15
$$Opp --- 261 990 3.79 7 12
Receiving Pos Targ Catch Yards Y/Ctc Y/Tar Drop TD
18 R. Staat WR 64 32 454 14.19 7.09 4 2
10 B. Penxa WR 63 30 326 10.87 5.17 8 3
88 M. Torrence WR 49 23 290 12.61 5.92 1 1
84 T. Keith WR 38 15 232 15.47 6.11 7 2
41 P. Fredrickson TE 21 13 79 6.08 3.76 0 1
28 H. Richmond RB 11 9 112 12.44 10.18 2 0
Defense Pos Tack Asst Sack Hurr Ints Defn PDPct
50 B. Brownlee ILB 58 18 3.0 0 1 3 73.2
54 R. Israelson OLB 38 11 2.0 1 1 2 72.1
26 Q. Rutter S 37 11 0.0 0 0 4 77.4
91 B. Hanaki ILB 33 7 0.0 0 0 0 67.4
30 A. Lynch S 25 11 0.0 0 0 4 81.3
24 L. Davison CB 22 1 0.0 0 0 0 74.8
92 J. Fletcher OLB 19 8 4.0 7 0 1 78.5
37 J. Sawyer CB 19 5 0.0 0 1 3 77.9
79 J. Godfrey DE 17 6 0.0 5 0 0 80.2
57 G. Tanner ILB 16 5 1.0 1 0 0 69.9
95 D. Canady ILB 15 8 0.0 0 0 0 71.2
38 O. Biletnikoff CB 15 5 0.0 0 1 3 83.2
96 K. Ballard DT 13 5 1.0 2 0 0 81.4
74 C. Grebene DT 13 6 2.0 1 0 0 81.7
39 K. Alexander S 13 9 0.0 0 0 0 77.5
71 B. Castillo DE 11 3 2.5 3 0 0 79.8
70 W. Morton DE 11 7 1.5 0 0 0 80.7
90 T. May DE 10 6 0.5 2 0 0 81.8
31 X. Marx CB 9 6 0.0 0 0 1 72.9
22 L. Ethridge CB 8 6 0.0 0 0 3 84.0
52 K. Bordelon OLB 8 4 0.0 0 0 1 76.5
QuikSand
05-08-2010, 02:01 PM
And the full season wrap-up doesn't really change the bottom line:
Front Office Football 2007
2016 Summary for Buffalo Bills
Year 2016
Record 4-12
Winning Pct. .250
All-Time 20-108
Winning Pct. .156
Playoffs 0-0
Playoff Visits 0
Bowl Wins 0
Head Coach Sam Frederick
Record 14-98
Winning Pct. .125
Off. Coord. K. Clark
Def. Coord. A. Newton
Buffalo Bills Team Rank
Rushes per Game 22.7 32
Rushing Yards 83.5 31
Yards Per Carry 3.68 28
Pass Attempts 34.0 10 (T)
Completions 17.6 31
Completion Pct. 51.8 32
Passing Yards 191.3 27
Yards Per Attempt 5.63 27
Yards Per Catch 10.85 15 (T)
Total Yardage Gained 255.7 30 (T)
3rd Down Conversions 32.4 29
Points Per Game 13.0 30
Pass Rush Pct. 18.4 21
Pass Defense Pct. 40.0 30
Turnovers 38 32
Turnover Margin -14 30
Opponents Team Rank
Rushes per Game 34.1 30
Rushing Yards 135.3 31
Yards Per Carry 3.97 15
Pass Attempts 27.6 4
Completions 18.4 7
Completion Pct. 66.5 31
Passing Yards 191.7 5
Yards Per Attempt 6.94 25
Yards Per Catch 10.43 11
Total Yardage Gained 313.1 18
3rd Down Conversions 42.2 28
Points Per Game 21.4 26 (T)
Pass Rush Pct. 22.6 29
Pass Defense Pct. 79.3 32
Turnovers 24 16 (T)
Week Team Versus Oppnt
1 20 at NYJ 24
2 7 at ARI 16
3 13 DEN 30
4 0 CLE 27
5 24 at MIA 21
6 27 at PIT 30
7 14 at BAL 24
8 19 NYJ 6
9 0 CIN 20
10 3 at NED 33
12 13 STL 16
13 13 at IND 9
14 3 at SEA 23
15 16 NED 24
16 3 SFO 20
17 33 MIA 20
Passing Pos Att Comp Yards Y/Att TD Int Rate
3 T. Duran QB 282 151 1675 5.94 9 10 67.3
12 P. Cobb QB 262 131 1385 5.29 5 17 45.1
**Team --- 544 282 3060 5.63 14 27 56.6
$$Opp --- 442 294 3067 6.94 18 9 91.5
Rushing Pos Att Yards Y/Att TD Fum
28 H. Richmond RB 176 603 3.43 1 6
Front Office Football 2007
34 T. McNulty RB 87 343 3.94 1 1
9 A. Meteer RB 56 185 3.30 0 6
**Team --- 363 1336 3.68 2 26
$$Opp --- 545 2164 3.97 14 26
Receiving Pos Targ Catch Yards Y/Ctc Y/Tar Drop TD
10 B. Penxa WR 121 65 686 10.55 5.67 10 4
18 R. Staat WR 127 58 747 12.88 5.88 9 2
88 M. Torrence WR 75 37 505 13.65 6.73 5 2
84 T. Keith WR 81 35 400 11.43 4.94 11 3
41 P. Fredrickson TE 39 27 183 6.78 4.69 0 1
Defense Pos Tack Asst Sack Hurr Ints Defn PDPct
50 B. Brownlee ILB 120 29 3.0 1 1 5 71.0
54 R. Israelson OLB 71 26 3.0 2 3 2 74.7
91 B. Hanaki ILB 66 20 1.0 1 0 1 71.7
26 Q. Rutter S 55 15 0.0 0 0 6 79.4
30 A. Lynch S 49 18 0.0 0 0 7 80.8
92 J. Fletcher OLB 47 22 9.5 9 0 2 80.2
39 K. Alexander S 38 19 0.0 0 1 4 80.1
24 L. Davison CB 35 8 0.0 0 1 0 76.6
37 J. Sawyer CB 34 13 0.0 0 2 4 77.6
95 D. Canady ILB 34 16 0.5 0 0 0 68.7
38 O. Biletnikoff CB 33 11 0.0 0 1 5 78.8
57 G. Tanner ILB 30 15 1.0 1 0 0 71.0
96 K. Ballard DT 28 11 2.0 3 0 0 81.4
70 W. Morton DE 28 14 4.0 3 0 3 84.0
90 T. May DE 27 9 6.0 8 0 0 81.6
74 C. Grebene DT 25 12 3.0 3 0 0 82.1
22 L. Ethridge CB 24 10 0.0 0 0 3 75.7
71 B. Castillo DE 21 5 2.5 3 0 0 80.4
31 X. Marx CB 20 11 0.0 0 0 1 74.3
79 J. Godfrey DE 18 8 0.0 5 0 0 79.6
51 B. Coggins OLB 18 7 1.5 2 0 0 75.6
QuikSand
05-08-2010, 02:14 PM
Quik Thoughts:
-Team is obviously not actually good... but there are things worth watching at least. The defense is up to roughly average in terms of yards allowed per play (both ways), and that's a good sign. We're still getting killed by the turnovers, especially with Cobb at QB.
-Fletcher had another superficially strong season as a pass rusher -- I know the 3-4 Will tends to get phony numbers, but he's at least credible there - with a 6.6 PR%. LDE May posted a respectable 5.1, but overall our pass rush remains a soft spot, to no surprise.
-We got precious little from the RB position, it seems. From the FO data in-game, we posted a 4.05 ALY and 3.55 ypc by RB -- suggesting that the main difference between our outcome and the league average was due to the RB position, rather than the blocking infrastructure. I guess that's encouraging, right? Fixable with one or two new guys, perhaps...? Or maybe Happenstance can get it together after all? or Meteer?
QuikSand
05-08-2010, 02:17 PM
In the offseason, CB Xavier Marx retires. Big drop in ratings last year in camp, then he became just a rotation player, and now he's out. DB is probably a need position just to add a body or two, at this point -- to no surprise.
QuikSand
05-08-2010, 02:39 PM
Quik Notes from the draft screen:
Another intriguing WR - Sean Brackett, 4.42/7/09, big BPR bar
WR Brock Sansbury - 4.44 and maxed BPR
SLB Les Hanks - 4.65 and strong PRT bar, other good bars
WLB Arnold Maru - 22 str, 35 sole, L-bars
SS Bill Andrus - 3 blues, 38 pos
DT Clifton Baker- 4.96/7.83
TE A.J. Tucker - 5 blues
TE Deion Gogan - 4 blues, max Run Bl bar
QB Andre Young - 4.53 dash, L-bars
QuikSand
05-08-2010, 02:41 PM
Here's the file as we sit in the post-draft pool, 2017.
http://www.sevenshuffles.com/QuikSand/imtbuf2017.zip
MIJB#19
05-08-2010, 07:39 PM
Let's see if I'm getting a handle on his this drafting stuff really works. Below are players who were above average in all (sometimes all but one) of the combine scores. I haven't really looked at the bars for most of these players, the combines made them stand out.
QB Lonnie Mills
QB D.J. Rhodes
QB Travis Miller (probably busts anyway, his agility is too low)
RB Byron Vought (no combine)
RB Zach Norgard
FB Kurt Huang
FB Jamie Thibodeaux
TE Deion Gogan
TE Bernie Warren
TE A.J. Tucker
WR Derek Conley
WR Drew Messina
WR Brock Sansbury
WR Sean Brackett
C Korey Molenaar
G Russell Norris
G Clay Dollilole
T Brian McElroy
P Lorenzo Morris (no combine)
K Adam Rayburn
K Lamont Gunn
DE J.B. Leslie
DE Lance Mayfield
DT Jerome Cunningham
DT Bryan Rodriguez
MLB Ethan Van Pelt
SLB J.B. Saban (no combine)
SLB Lee Hanks
SLB Heath Wooden
WLB Burt Emmons
CB J.B. Horton
S Teddy Compton
QuikSand
05-10-2010, 08:10 AM
Should have time to get to this today for a bit. Plan will be to sign all the MIJB guys, plus the combine guys from above, and basically move on.
QuikSand
05-10-2010, 11:16 AM
Player # Pos Start Exp Current Estimate Future Estimate C Current Estimate Future Estimate dCE dFE
Duran, Tommie 3 QB 7 30 30 31 31 1 1
Cobb, Patrick 12 QB 4 21 30 24 31 3 1
Davison, Corey 11 QB 4 20 47 24 47 4 0
Mills, Lonnie 4 QB 1 10 22 14 23 4 1
Rhodes, D.J. 16 QB 1 9 29 12 30 3 1
Miller, Travis 2 QB 1 7 45 10 40 3 -5
Young, Andre 1 QB 1 8 29 9 30 1 1
Meteer, Alan 9 RB 3 34 42 37 37 3 -5
Richmond, Happenstance 28 RB 2 27 29 30 30 3 1
McNulty, Tracy 34 RB 3 26 26 27 27 1 1
Norgard, Zach 29 RB 1 23 30 24 30 1 0
Vought, Byron 43 RB 1 19 27 20 27 1 0
Prado, Carl 36 FB 3 42 42 43 43 1 1
Huang, Kurt 33 FB 1 24 34 27 38 3 4
Thibodeaux, Jamie 44 FB 1 20 49 20 40 0 -9
Small, Russell 40 FB 8 16 16 17 17 1 1
Manning, Vernon 45 FB 8 9 9 8 8 -1 -1
Fredrickson, Peter 41 TE 7 56 56 56 56 0 0
Milgate, Craig 80 TE 3 38 51 42 51 4 0
Rackley, D.J. 85 TE 7 33 33 34 34 1 1
Gogan, Deion 89 TE 1 13 43 16 40 3 -3
Warren, Bennie 82 TE 1 13 33 16 35 3 2
Tucker, A.J. 83 TE 1 10 28 12 28 2 0
Staat, Raymond 18 FL 4 38 38 38 38 0 0
Keith, Terrell 84 FL 3 26 31 28 31 2 0
Harding, Dean 43 FL 1 24 39 24 36 0 -3
Owens, Gus 13 FL 7 29 29 22 22 -7 -7
Penxa, Bucky 10 SE 6 40 40 40 40 0 0
Bennett, Ralph 81 SE 4 19 22 20 20 1 -2
Conley, Gary 7 SE 1 18 43 20 40 2 -3
Torrence, Marco 88 SE 2 17 26 18 26 1 0
Brackett, Sean 8 SE 1 16 24 18 27 2 3
Sansbury, Brock 87 SE 1 15 31 18 34 3 3
Messina, Drew 17 SE 1 14 17 17 21 3 4
Lee, Edward 86 SE 8 3 3 2 2 -1 -1
Bernstein, Marcus 59 C 5 44 44 43 43 -1 -1
Kelly, Andy 53 C 2 28 42 32 42 4 0
Molenaar, Korey 65 C 1 12 36 15 39 3 3
Musum, Ryan 67 LG 8 37 37 37 37 0 0
Dollilole, Clay 77 LG 1 15 35 18 34 3 -1
Norris, Russell 63 LG 1 12 36 14 37 2 1
McLain, Rod 60 RG 8 37 37 37 37 0 0
McKnight, Steve 61 RG 3 29 35 32 35 3 0
Price, Everett 78 LT 4 34 34 34 34 0 0
Beyer, Alex 76 LT 8 29 29 29 29 0 0
Greenberg, Bert 64 LT 1 12 17 13 19 1 2
Donovan, Tommie 62 RT 5 38 38 38 38 0 0
Klinger, Stan 68 RT 5 34 45 31 37 -3 -8
McElroy, Brian 73 RT 1 12 20 15 24 3 4
Springer, Curtis 14 P 7 48 48 48 48 0 0
Morris, Lorenzo 15 P 1 28 63 28 56 0 -7
Monroe, Marshall 19 K 4 38 38 39 39 1 1
Rayburn, Adam 6 K 1 20 26 20 26 0 0
Gunn, Lamont 5 K 1 11 12 13 18 2 6
May, Ted 90 LDE 5 34 35 37 37 3 2
Castillo, Benjamin 71 LDE 5 21 21 26 26 5 5
Morton, Wes 70 RDE 2 28 37 31 37 3 0
Godfrey, Justin 79 RDE 8 28 28 23 23 -5 -5
Mayfield, Lance 99 RDE 1 20 40 23 40 3 0
Leslie, J.B. 94 RDE 1 18 36 21 37 3 1
Ballard, Kendall 96 LDT 8 28 28 22 22 -6 -6
Cunningham, Jerome 98 LDT 1 17 29 20 32 3 3
Baker, Clifton 75 LDT 1 15 27 18 28 3 1
Rodriguez, Bryan 72 RDT 1 16 41 19 43 3 2
Grebene, Clarence 74 NT 7 29 29 14 14 -15 -15
Brownlee, Ben 50 SILB 7 35 35 36 36 1 1
Tanner, George 57 SILB 2 21 45 25 45 4 0
Hanaki, Bert 91 WILB 8 33 33 33 33 0 0
Canady, Daniel 95 WILB 4 30 34 32 34 2 0
Van Pelt, Ethan 66 MLB 1 13 38 17 39 4 1
Morris, Tito 69 MLB 1 14 30 15 27 1 -3
Israelson, Ray 54 SLB 8 37 37 37 37 0 0
Bordelon, Korey 52 SLB 3 27 27 28 28 1 1
Coggins, Brenden 51 SLB 3 25 33 26 32 1 -1
Hanks, Les 93 SLB 1 16 43 19 40 3 -3
Saban, J.B. 56 SLB 1 13 42 15 36 2 -6
Wooden, Heath 35 SLB 1 11 19 14 22 3 3
Fletcher, Jamie 92 WLB 6 33 33 34 34 1 1
Burbage, Lionel 58 WLB 2 22 30 24 31 2 1
Caban, Justin 55 WLB 1 20 34 24 33 4 -1
Emmons, Burt 97 WLB 1 19 45 21 40 2 -5
Biletnikoff, O.J. 38 LCB 4 34 34 35 35 1 1
Davison, Leslie 24 LCB 5 25 25 25 25 0 0
Sawyer, Juan 37 RCB 6 26 26 26 26 0 0
Ethridge, Leon 22 RCB 7 18 18 18 18 0 0
Cole, Roosevelt 49 RCB 1 16 28 18 28 2 0
Horton, J.B. 35 RCB 1 11 29 14 29 3 0
Rutter, Quentin 26 SS 8 41 41 41 41 0 0
Alexander, Kim 39 SS 7 32 32 33 33 1 1
Compton, Teddy 21 SS 1 14 25 16 25 2 0
Grant, Lamont 25 SS 1 12 40 15 36 3 -4
Robinson, Otis 42 SS 8 15 15 9 9 -6 -6
Lynch, Antonio 30 FS 7 42 42 43 43 1 1
QuikSand
05-10-2010, 11:22 AM
Seemingly random drop for DT Grebene... basically makes a long-term affinity starter (for lack of strong options) into a bag or bones. Sucks.
FB Kurt Huang gives a +4... not the best position to get another breakout, but we'll take it. He's **way** too fat to play RB.
Three more creeping receivers... this is getting absurd, there definitely won't be enough balls to go around. (Should we maybe star throwing a good deal more, though?)
Two more creeping tackles and a center... OL is getting chock full of interesting guys too. I may be tempted to slot McElroy right in as the long term RT starter.
DE Castillo has a seemingly random breakout, but is still 0,0 in the top two ratings
Maybe DT Jerome Cunningham should be the NT starter now?
QuikSand
05-11-2010, 02:44 PM
Okay, onward into the season. Cutdowns are a bitch, we had to dump a ton of decent veterans and +1/2 creepers to get to 53, but I'm there. This will remain a run-first team, but I drop the run % on 1st and 10 from 60 to 53, in an effort to smooth things out a bit more. I'd like to see WR Staat with the ball in his hands more than we have been doing.
Plan again is to start with Duran, and go from there. If the team seems to be taking shape by the halfway point, I might just declare him the man, and be done with it. Or, we could give Cobb a look - his bars remain upwardly creeping and look okay, but the guy was just a pick machine last season.
We start out 2-1, and once again I am enchanted by early results into believing maybe the team is putting something together...
QuikSand
05-11-2010, 02:48 PM
Front Office Football 2007
2017 Summary for Buffalo Bills
Year 2017
Record 3-13
Winning Pct. .187
All-Time 23-121
Winning Pct. .159
Playoffs 0-0
Playoff Visits 0
Bowl Wins 0
Head Coach Sam Frederick
Record 17-111
Winning Pct. .132
Off. Coord. K. Clark
Def. Coord. A. Newton
Buffalo Bills Team Rank
Rushes per Game 24.4 25
Rushing Yards 91.6 29
Yards Per Carry 3.76 31
Pass Attempts 39.1 6
Completions 20.5 16
Completion Pct. 52.5 32
Passing Yards 229.1 14
Yards Per Attempt 5.87 30
Yards Per Catch 11.18 12
Total Yardage Gained 306.1 27
3rd Down Conversions 40.3 11
Points Per Game 14.6 28
Pass Rush Pct. 18.7 14
Pass Defense Pct. 51.9 11
Turnovers 37 31
Turnover Margin -15 29
Opponents Team Rank
Rushes per Game 30.6 31
Rushing Yards 120.7 22
Yards Per Carry 3.94 5
Pass Attempts 28.9 3 (T)
Completions 17.7 1
Completion Pct. 61.1 10
Passing Yards 190.2 1
Yards Per Attempt 6.57 11
Yards Per Catch 10.75 14
Total Yardage Gained 299.6 3
3rd Down Conversions 40.4 22
Points Per Game 22.0 23 (T)
Pass Rush Pct. 23.4 32
Pass Defense Pct. 73.6 32
Turnovers 22 21 (T)
Week Team Versus Oppnt
1 13 NED 16
2 10 CAR 3
3 36 IND 21
4 14 at MIA 16
5 13 at DEN 38
6 14 at OAK 27
8 17 SDO 31
9 20 NYJ 3
10 7 KCY 24
11 6 at NED 35
12 12 at NOS 17
13 16 at CIN 26
14 20 at TBY 27
15 26 MIA 27
16 3 ATL 28
17 7 at NYJ 13
Passing Pos Att Comp Yards Y/Att TD Int Rate
3 T. Duran QB 499 262 2751 5.51 18 20 64.1
12 P. Cobb QB 126 66 915 7.26 1 7 55.5
**Team --- 625 328 3666 5.87 19 27 62.4
$$Opp --- 463 283 3043 6.57 19 14 81.5
Rushing Pos Att Yards Y/Att TD Fum
9 A. Meteer RB 185 825 4.46 1 10
Front Office Football 2007
28 H. Richmond RB 122 386 3.16 2 0
34 T. McNulty RB 44 177 4.02 0 1
**Team --- 390 1465 3.76 3 21
$$Opp --- 490 1931 3.94 15 16
Receiving Pos Targ Catch Yards Y/Ctc Y/Tar Drop TD
10 B. Penxa WR 152 74 965 13.04 6.35 11 5
84 T. Keith WR 107 64 818 12.78 7.64 5 3
18 R. Staat WR 110 50 567 11.34 5.15 5 2
41 P. Fredrickson TE 53 34 314 9.24 5.92 1 3
87 B. Sansbury WR 63 34 430 12.65 6.83 3 2
28 H. Richmond RB 21 16 120 7.50 5.71 2 0
Defense Pos Tack Asst Sack Hurr Ints Defn PDPct
50 B. Brownlee ILB 82 32 2.5 0 3 8 82.1
26 Q. Rutter S 79 39 0.0 0 3 7 81.2
54 R. Israelson OLB 69 26 1.0 2 1 6 74.3
91 B. Hanaki ILB 66 24 0.5 0 1 0 78.2
30 A. Lynch S 66 21 0.0 1 0 10 76.5
58 L. Burbage OLB 43 20 8.0 17 0 2 81.2
38 O. Biletnikoff CB 36 10 0.0 0 3 6 77.7
57 G. Tanner ILB 34 16 1.0 0 1 1 76.2
24 L. Davison CB 31 8 0.0 0 1 1 76.6
39 K. Alexander S 29 11 0.0 0 0 2 74.4
37 J. Sawyer CB 29 10 0.0 0 0 2 75.3
72 B. Rodriguez DT 29 18 0.0 3 0 0 80.8
79 J. Godfrey DE 27 12 1.0 3 0 0 80.6
92 J. Fletcher OLB 24 9 4.0 6 0 1 80.6
22 L. Ethridge CB 23 8 0.0 1 1 4 81.2
90 T. May DE 22 12 2.0 7 0 0 80.7
98 J. Cunningham DT 19 9 3.0 0 0 0 82.5
95 D. Canady ILB 17 6 1.0 0 0 0 75.5
Not so much, then.
QuikSand
05-11-2010, 02:51 PM
Forgot to do the measures at the start, so I will do them at the end of the season (likely some skew here):
Roster rating: 2 (32nd, second to last is 19)
Cohesion ratings: 84 (15th), 97 (2nd), 81 (12th), 93 (2nd)
AffIndex: 81
QuikSand
05-11-2010, 02:56 PM
Quik thoughts:
RB Meteer may be the most productive guy, but he's a fumbler, needs to go back to RB3/KR/PR slot... we need a real RB, it seems, as Richmond has been given 300 carries and is sitting on 3.3 ypc
Passing... Duran isn't actually playing too well, but Cobb is just a massive pick machine, it seems, and this team cannot overcome that by any means
By the yards per play, the offense is terrible, and the defense is passable and improving
Barkeep49
05-11-2010, 08:13 PM
I am surprised you're fairing so poorly still with affinity. That has always been something I've remembered from your previous attempts with this.
QuikSand
05-12-2010, 02:22 PM
To be honest... I/we have not been consistent with any approach. Had I been keeping around most of the no-good affinity veterans on this roster from the first season or two, we'd be in better shape there. But I have been lured off that path a bit by a few creepers here and big bars there, and really haven't committed to much. This year, I cut that first FB... long term guy, affinity, and ST skills to play as a gunner... but he'd be FB #4 on this roster by the skills. That's where this always gets tough-- cutting useful players to keep cohesion/chemistry stiffs around. I think it's probably best to go one way or the other, rather than trying to have it both ways like I basically am here.
QuikSand
05-13-2010, 02:22 PM
Sorry, have lost steam, but don't think I'm done. Will try to buy a little time and post a file later today.
QuikSand
05-13-2010, 03:53 PM
From the draft page, a few notes:
QB Rusty Trowbridge - 3 blues, incl 37 test
QB Craig Newsome - 3 blues, incl 35 test
FB Reggie Reid - like we need another
CB Mark VanDenBelt - 46 Pspec, big zone bar
QuikSand
05-13-2010, 03:58 PM
Latest file... http://www.sevenshuffles.com/QuikSand/imtbuf2018.zip
QuikSand
05-14-2010, 10:47 AM
Pretty modest invite list this year - I'm sick of spending 30 minutes on cutdown day. We have 55 guys returning, and 10 rookies. We'll see where things go from here.
QuikSand
05-14-2010, 11:01 AM
<table style="border-collapse: collapse; width: 600pt;" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="800"><col style="width: 168pt;" width="224"> <col style="width: 48pt;" span="9" width="64"> <tbody><tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl65" style="height: 15pt; width: 168pt;" height="20" width="224">Front Office Football 20</td> <td style="width: 48pt;" align="right" width="64">7</td> <td style="width: 48pt;" width="64">
</td> <td style="width: 48pt;" width="64">
</td> <td style="width: 48pt;" width="64">
</td> <td style="width: 48pt;" width="64">
</td> <td style="width: 48pt;" width="64">
</td> <td style="width: 48pt;" width="64">
</td> <td style="width: 48pt;" width="64">
</td> <td style="width: 48pt;" width="64">
</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl65" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Buffalo Bills Roster, Sc</td> <td>out</td> <td colspan="2" style="">Overview</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl65" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">
</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl65" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Player</td> <td>#</td> <td>Pos Start</td> <td>Exp</td> <td>Current Estimate</td> <td>Future Estimate</td> <td>Current Estimate</td> <td>Future Estimate</td> <td>dCE</td> <td>dFE</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl65" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Duran, Tommie</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td>QB</td> <td align="right">8</td> <td align="right">31</td> <td align="right">31</td> <td align="right">31</td> <td align="right">31</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl65" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Cobb, Patrick</td> <td align="right">12</td> <td>QB</td> <td align="right">5</td> <td align="right">26</td> <td align="right">31</td> <td align="right">30</td> <td align="right">30</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">-1</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl65" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Davison, Corey</td> <td align="right">11</td> <td>QB</td> <td align="right">5</td> <td align="right">25</td> <td align="right">47</td> <td align="right">29</td> <td align="right">47</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">0</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl65" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Trowbridge, Rusty</td> <td align="right">13</td> <td>QB</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">14</td> <td align="right">32</td> <td align="right">18</td> <td align="right">34</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">2</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl65" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Ross, Rich</td> <td align="right">7</td> <td>QB</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">12</td> <td align="right">38</td> <td align="right">14</td> <td align="right">37</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">-1</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl65" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Newsome, Craig</td> <td align="right">16</td> <td>QB</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">31</td> <td align="right">5</td> <td align="right">34</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">3</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl65" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Meteer, Alan</td> <td align="right">9</td> <td>RB</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">36</td> <td align="right">36</td> <td align="right">36</td> <td align="right">36</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl65" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Richmond, Happenstance</td> <td align="right">28</td> <td>RB</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">35</td> <td align="right">35</td> <td align="right">35</td> <td align="right">35</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl65" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">McNulty, Tracy</td> <td align="right">34</td> <td>RB</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">29</td> <td align="right">29</td> <td align="right">30</td> <td align="right">30</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">1</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl65" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Schalman, Lamar</td> <td align="right">33</td> <td>RB</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">25</td> <td align="right">31</td> <td align="right">27</td> <td align="right">31</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">0</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl65" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">DiGuardi, Les</td> <td align="right">35</td> <td>RB</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">26</td> <td align="right">47</td> <td align="right">27</td> <td align="right">40</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">-7</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl65" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Bennett, Blaine</td> <td align="right">48</td> <td>RB</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">19</td> <td align="right">38</td> <td align="right">20</td> <td align="right">34</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">-4</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl65" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Prado, Carl</td> <td align="right">36</td> <td>FB</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">42</td> <td align="right">42</td> <td align="right">46</td> <td align="right">46</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">4</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl65" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Huang, Kurt</td> <td align="right">46</td> <td>FB</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">32</td> <td align="right">40</td> <td align="right">35</td> <td align="right">41</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">1</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl65" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Reid, Reggie</td> <td align="right">32</td> <td>FB</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">27</td> <td align="right">39</td> <td align="right">29</td> <td align="right">40</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">1</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl65" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Manning, Vernon</td> <td align="right">45</td> <td>FB</td> <td align="right">9</td> <td align="right">8</td> <td align="right">8</td> <td align="right">7</td> <td align="right">7</td> <td align="right">-1</td> <td align="right">-1</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl65" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Fredrickson, Peter</td> <td align="right">41</td> <td>TE</td> <td align="right">8</td> <td align="right">57</td> <td align="right">57</td> <td align="right">50</td> <td align="right">50</td> <td align="right">-7</td> <td align="right">-7</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl65" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Milgate, Craig</td> <td align="right">80</td> <td>TE</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">44</td> <td align="right">51</td> <td align="right">48</td> <td align="right">51</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">0</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl65" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Rackley, D.J.</td> <td align="right">85</td> <td>TE</td> <td align="right">8</td> <td align="right">32</td> <td align="right">32</td> <td align="right">32</td> <td align="right">32</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl65" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Tucker, A.J.</td> <td align="right">81</td> <td>TE</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">14</td> <td align="right">28</td> <td align="right">15</td> <td align="right">28</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">0</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl65" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Staat, Raymond</td> <td align="right">18</td> <td>FL</td> <td align="right">5</td> <td align="right">39</td> <td align="right">39</td> <td align="right">39</td> <td align="right">39</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl65" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Keith, Terrell</td> <td align="right">84</td> <td>FL</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">29</td> <td align="right">29</td> <td align="right">29</td> <td align="right">29</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl65" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Torrence, Marco</td> <td align="right">88</td> <td>FL</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">18</td> <td align="right">26</td> <td align="right">20</td> <td align="right">27</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">1</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl65" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Penxa, Bucky</td> <td align="right">10</td> <td>SE</td> <td align="right">7</td> <td align="right">40</td> <td align="right">40</td> <td align="right">40</td> <td align="right">40</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl65" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Sansbury, Brock</td> <td align="right">87</td> <td>SE</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">21</td> <td align="right">36</td> <td align="right">24</td> <td align="right">36</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">0</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl65" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Brackett, Sean</td> <td align="right">8</td> <td>SE</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">19</td> <td align="right">28</td> <td align="right">21</td> <td align="right">28</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">0</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl65" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Messina, Drew</td> <td align="right">17</td> <td>SE</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">19</td> <td align="right">24</td> <td align="right">21</td> <td align="right">24</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">0</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl65" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Lee, Edward</td> <td align="right">86</td> <td>SE</td> <td align="right">9</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">-1</td> <td align="right">-1</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl65" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Bernstein, Marcus</td> <td align="right">59</td> <td>C</td> <td align="right">6</td> <td align="right">43</td> <td align="right">43</td> <td align="right">41</td> <td align="right">41</td> <td align="right">-2</td> <td align="right">-2</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl65" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Kelly, Andy</td> <td align="right">53</td> <td>C</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">35</td> <td align="right">39</td> <td align="right">40</td> <td align="right">40</td> <td align="right">5</td> <td align="right">1</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl65" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Musum, Ryan</td> <td align="right">67</td> <td>LG</td> <td align="right">9</td> <td align="right">37</td> <td align="right">37</td> <td align="right">31</td> <td align="right">31</td> <td align="right">-6</td> <td align="right">-6</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl65" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">McLain, Rod</td> <td align="right">60</td> <td>RG</td> <td align="right">9</td> <td align="right">37</td> <td align="right">37</td> <td align="right">38</td> <td align="right">38</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">1</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl65" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">McKnight, Steve</td> <td align="right">61</td> <td>RG</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">37</td> <td align="right">37</td> <td align="right">38</td> <td align="right">38</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">1</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl65" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Price, Everett</td> <td align="right">78</td> <td>LT</td> <td align="right">5</td> <td align="right">35</td> <td align="right">35</td> <td align="right">34</td> <td align="right">34</td> <td align="right">-1</td> <td align="right">-1</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl65" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Beyer, Alex</td> <td align="right">76</td> <td>LT</td> <td align="right">9</td> <td align="right">29</td> <td align="right">29</td> <td align="right">29</td> <td align="right">29</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl65" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Donovan, Tommie</td> <td align="right">62</td> <td>RT</td> <td align="right">6</td> <td align="right">37</td> <td align="right">37</td> <td align="right">38</td> <td align="right">38</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">1</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl65" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">McElroy, Brian</td> <td align="right">73</td> <td>RT</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">17</td> <td align="right">27</td> <td align="right">20</td> <td align="right">27</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">0</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl65" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Springer, Curtis</td> <td align="right">14</td> <td>P</td> <td align="right">8</td> <td align="right">47</td> <td align="right">47</td> <td align="right">48</td> <td align="right">48</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">1</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl65" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Monroe, Marshall</td> <td align="right">19</td> <td>K</td> <td align="right">5</td> <td align="right">38</td> <td align="right">38</td> <td align="right">38</td> <td align="right">38</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl65" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">May, Ted</td> <td align="right">90</td> <td>LDE</td> <td align="right">6</td> <td align="right">37</td> <td align="right">37</td> <td align="right">37</td> <td align="right">37</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl65" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Castillo, Benjamin</td> <td align="right">71</td> <td>LDE</td> <td align="right">6</td> <td align="right">26</td> <td align="right">26</td> <td align="right">26</td> <td align="right">26</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl65" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Morton, Wes</td> <td align="right">70</td> <td>RDE</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">31</td> <td align="right">34</td> <td align="right">35</td> <td align="right">35</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">1</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl65" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Godfrey, Justin</td> <td align="right">79</td> <td>RDE</td> <td align="right">9</td> <td align="right">23</td> <td align="right">23</td> <td align="right">24</td> <td align="right">24</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">1</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl65" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Ballard, Kendall</td> <td align="right">96</td> <td>LDT</td> <td align="right">9</td> <td align="right">22</td> <td align="right">22</td> <td align="right">16</td> <td align="right">16</td> <td align="right">-6</td> <td align="right">-6</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl65" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Batson, Kyle</td> <td align="right">75</td> <td>RDT</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">23</td> <td align="right">33</td> <td align="right">25</td> <td align="right">33</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">0</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl65" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Rodriguez, Bryan</td> <td align="right">72</td> <td>NT</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">25</td> <td align="right">43</td> <td align="right">25</td> <td align="right">44</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">1</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl65" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Cunningham, Jerome</td> <td align="right">98</td> <td>NT</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">22</td> <td align="right">34</td> <td align="right">23</td> <td align="right">34</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">0</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl65" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Grebene, Clarence</td> <td align="right">74</td> <td>NT</td> <td align="right">8</td> <td align="right">14</td> <td align="right">14</td> <td align="right">10</td> <td align="right">10</td> <td align="right">-4</td> <td align="right">-4</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl65" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Tanner, George</td> <td align="right">57</td> <td>SILB</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">27</td> <td align="right">39</td> <td align="right">29</td> <td align="right">38</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">-1</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl65" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Brownlee, Ben</td> <td align="right">50</td> <td>SILB</td> <td align="right">8</td> <td align="right">36</td> <td align="right">36</td> <td align="right">27</td> <td align="right">27</td> <td align="right">-9</td> <td align="right">-9</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl65" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Canady, Daniel</td> <td align="right">95</td> <td>WILB</td> <td align="right">5</td> <td align="right">34</td> <td align="right">34</td> <td align="right">34</td> <td align="right">34</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl65" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Hanaki, Bert</td> <td align="right">91</td> <td>WILB</td> <td align="right">9</td> <td align="right">33</td> <td align="right">33</td> <td align="right">33</td> <td align="right">33</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl65" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Israelson, Ray</td> <td align="right">54</td> <td>SLB</td> <td align="right">9</td> <td align="right">37</td> <td align="right">37</td> <td align="right">33</td> <td align="right">33</td> <td align="right">-4</td> <td align="right">-4</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl65" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Bordelon, Korey</td> <td align="right">52</td> <td>SLB</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">28</td> <td align="right">28</td> <td align="right">28</td> <td align="right">28</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl65" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Burbage, Lionel</td> <td align="right">58</td> <td>WLB</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">24</td> <td align="right">24</td> <td align="right">25</td> <td align="right">25</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">1</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl65" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Biletnikoff, O.J.</td> <td align="right">38</td> <td>LCB</td> <td align="right">5</td> <td align="right">35</td> <td align="right">35</td> <td align="right">35</td> <td align="right">35</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl65" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Davison, Leslie</td> <td align="right">24</td> <td>LCB</td> <td align="right">6</td> <td align="right">25</td> <td align="right">25</td> <td align="right">25</td> <td align="right">25</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl65" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Sawyer, Juan</td> <td align="right">37</td> <td>RCB</td> <td align="right">7</td> <td align="right">26</td> <td align="right">26</td> <td align="right">27</td> <td align="right">27</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">1</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl65" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">VandenBelt, Mark</td> <td align="right">43</td> <td>RCB</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">20</td> <td align="right">34</td> <td align="right">23</td> <td align="right">35</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">1</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl65" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Ethridge, Leon</td> <td align="right">22</td> <td>RCB</td> <td align="right">8</td> <td align="right">18</td> <td align="right">18</td> <td align="right">18</td> <td align="right">18</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl65" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Rutter, Quentin</td> <td align="right">26</td> <td>SS</td> <td align="right">9</td> <td align="right">41</td> <td align="right">41</td> <td align="right">33</td> <td align="right">33</td> <td align="right">-8</td> <td align="right">-8</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl65" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Alexander, Kim</td> <td align="right">39</td> <td>SS</td> <td align="right">8</td> <td align="right">32</td> <td align="right">32</td> <td align="right">28</td> <td align="right">28</td> <td align="right">-4</td> <td align="right">-4</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl65" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Cepeda, Charles</td> <td align="right">31</td> <td>SS</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">22</td> <td align="right">45</td> <td align="right">23</td> <td align="right">38</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">-7</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl65" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Robinson, Otis</td> <td align="right">42</td> <td>SS</td> <td align="right">9</td> <td align="right">8</td> <td align="right">8</td> <td align="right">5</td> <td align="right">5</td> <td align="right">-3</td> <td align="right">-3</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl65" style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Lynch, Antonio</td> <td align="right">30</td> <td>FS</td> <td align="right">8</td> <td align="right">43</td> <td align="right">43</td> <td align="right">44</td> <td align="right">44</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">1</td> </tr> </tbody></table>
QuikSand
05-14-2010, 11:04 AM
Quick notes on camp:
-A +2 QB move is good... he's a triple conflict, though. What to do?
-Another big hit to TE Fredrickson... he's still good, but getting worn down
-I don't think CB VandenBelt is really any good, but we did need a DB bump, we're getting really old and tired there
MIJB#19
05-17-2010, 06:27 AM
I'll try to get back into the swing here, QS. That last list of names that I dug up at the very least learnt me quite a bit about rookies and drafting...
QuikSand
05-18-2010, 02:38 PM
I'll try too, just been a bit crowded on my dance card of late.
vBulletin v3.6.0, Copyright ©2000-2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.