College Football Preseason Thread

[BishopMVP]

We seem to be cluttering up and jumping between multiple recruiting threads, so I figured one catch-all thread for predictions, cool arrests, suspensions resulting from agent contact, and even actual news from preseason camps would come in handy. Please keep Pac-10 bitchfests to a minimum.

Games start September 2nd - TV schedule here - 2010 College Football TV Schedule (http://lsufootball.net/tvschedule.htm)

[BishopMVP]

In incredibly sad and shocking news, Tyrone Willingham has officially retired "[I have] no problem announcing...that I am retired."Maybe I should announce my retirement too, since I had as good a chance of getting hired by a BCS team in the future as he did.

[Swaggs]

I just looked him up to see how old he was (born in 1953, btw) and was surprised to see that he was actually a .500 coach until his last year at UW, when they went 0-12.

I didn't read the article, but is he retired as a head coach or altogether? It seems like he could still be a college coordinator or position coach (maybe in the NFL, even?) for another 8-10 years.

[JonInMiddleGA]

SEC Media Days voting is in, here's the predictions for the league this season
UGA picked to finish second in SEC East || OnlineAthens.com (http://www.onlineathens.com/stories/072310/foo_681578047.shtml)

* Eastern Division (First Place Votes)
1. Florida (153) 1030
2. Georgia (15) 791
3. South Carolina (8) 790
4. Kentucky 462
5. Tennessee 450
6. Vanderbilt (1) 194

* Western Division (First Place Votes)
1. Alabama (157) 1034
2. Arkansas (6) 726
3. Auburn (10) 691
4. LSU (1) 653
5. Mississippi State 3200
6. Ole Miss (3) 293

SEC Champion - Alabama (143), Florida (17), Auburn (7), Arkansas (3), Ole Miss (2), Georgia (2), LSU (1), South Carolina (1), Kentucky (1).

[tarcone]

Big Ten Media days start Monday and will be televised like the SEC. ESPN and the Big10 Network covering.

Iowa had a DE arrested for OWI about 2 weeks ago. It was Binns. Hopefully he only misses the Eastern Illinois game. This was his 1st mistake.

Im surprised to see Arkansas getting that much love and LSU falling that far.

43 days until kickoff (For Iowa). A fun fact. It took Georgia Tech 43 minutes to complete a pass against Iowa in the Orange Bowl.

[CU Tiger]

South Carolina (1),

Really, Steve, really?

[JonInMiddleGA]

Really, Steve, really?

I figured him for the Vandy as East champ vote actually ;)

[CU Tiger]

nah thats GOTTA be Caldwell....did you here his story telling yesterday?

[JonInMiddleGA]

nah thats GOTTA be Caldwell....did you here his story telling yesterday?

Haven't heard him yet, just saw a few references to him being one of the highlights of the week.

[BishopMVP]

I just looked him up to see how old he was (born in 1953, btw) and was surprised to see that he was actually a .500 coach until his last year at UW, when they went 0-12.

I didn't read the article, but is he retired as a head coach or altogether? It seems like he could still be a college coordinator or position coach (maybe in the NFL, even?) for another 8-10 years.His quotes indicates he really, really hates having to answer to bosses. Maybe that's just in the sense of alumni, but I got the feeling he enjoys spending time with his family and helping out at camps here and there. I hated his penchant for golfing over recruiting at ND, but I can actually respect that outside of being a coach - at some point, he's got enough money to retire off of, why bother putting in 18-hour days?Haven't heard him yet, just saw a few references to him being one of the highlights of the week.Highlights here - 2010 SEC MEDIA DAYS: ROBBIE CALDWELL, COMMODORE OF OUR HEARTS - Every Day Should Be Saturday (http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2010/7/22/1582464/2010-sec-media-days-robbie) Link to a full transcript - http://www.asapsports.com/show_interview.php?id=65032

[Izulde]

Mountain West Conference Football Media Days are July 27th and 28th at Red Rock Resort in Las Vegas. I get to LV on the 30th and miss it by two days. Damn.

[dawgfan]

I just looked him up to see how old he was (born in 1953, btw) and was surprised to see that he was actually a .500 coach until his last year at UW, when they went 0-12.

I didn't read the article, but is he retired as a head coach or altogether? It seems like he could still be a college coordinator or position coach (maybe in the NFL, even?) for another 8-10 years.
He has been paid (and is continuing to get paid) handsomely for his dismissals at both Notre Dame and Washington, so he most certainly doesn't need the money. Why not spend all week golfing - it's one more day per week than he was doing when he was a coach...

Interesting to note, he was never a coordinator - he went from being a RB coach at Stanford and then with the Vikings to a head coach at Stanford. And as Bishop noted, it's not really in his nature to like answering to someone else, so unless he were courted by a colleague he has great respect for, I don't see him taking a coordinator or position coach job anywhere - he has too much pride.

[Chief Rum]

Mountain West Conference Football Media Days are July 27th and 28th at Red Rock Resort in Las Vegas. I get to LV on the 30th and miss it by two days. Damn.

I like the Red Rock Resort. Nice off strip casino.

[Eaglesfan27]

USC has hired Kennedy Poala as RB coach and offensive coordinator :)

[wade moore]

USC has hired Kennedy Poala as RB coach and offensive coordinator :)
I'm surprised you're bragging about this when it again showed what an a-hole Kiffin is.

[tarcone]

What would Lane Kiffin be doing if he didnt have his Dads coattails?

And how much longer will he be coaching after burning soooo many bridges?

[JonInMiddleGA]

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[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Here's what 2,000 pair of Nike shoes look like as they're being unloaded. Looks like it's time for practice at Mizzou!

http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg819/scaled.php?tn=0&server=819&filename=dm0.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640

[MrBug708]

USC has hired Kennedy Poala as RB coach and offensive coordinator :)

Are you really excited about your third choice OC?

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Interesting read about 'bang for your buck' in the recruiting game........

http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/OU/article.aspx?subjectid=92&articleid=20100725_231_0_tablet19506&rss_lnk=2

[the_meanstrosity]

Interesting read about 'bang for your buck' in the recruiting game........

http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/OU/article.aspx?subjectid=92&articleid=20100725_231_0_tablet19506&rss_lnk=2

Pinkel has done a very good job of targeting the top in-state talent and getting them to commit to Missouri. He normally lands 4-5 of the state's top 10 players which has really helped that program stay competitive in the Big 12.

[Swaggs]

haha... The Tennessee Titans are suing USC and Lane Kiffin (both of them are named, from what I understand) for the manner in which they hired their new offensive coordinator away from the Titans.

I thought it was kind of strange, as most head coaches are pleased when their assistants move up the ladder (which, I would think NFL RB coach to coordinator at one of a top college team would be), but then I realized this is probably a good opportunity for the Titans to latch on to and milk the Vols' fans hatred of Kiffin.

In any case, I'd love to see a case like this go to trial. Imagine how college sports would change if contracts actually meant something.

[dawgfan]

Fisher was pissed that Kiffin & USC didn't extend the courtesy of informing him and the Titans ahead of time that they wanted to talk with Pola about a job. It was only after Pola accepted the job and told Fisher that he was leaving that Kiffin left Fisher a voice mail about it.

Maybe this suit is partly about the Titans latching on to the Tennessee hatred of Lane Kiffin, but I also wouldn't discount how pissed-off Fisher himself is.

Gotta wonder how long other coaches are going to want to be associated with Kiffin the younger, especially after Monte finally retires...

[MrBug708]

Interesting read about 'bang for your buck' in the recruiting game........

http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/OU/article.aspx?subjectid=92&articleid=20100725_231_0_tablet19506&rss_lnk=2

Wouldnt have thought UCLA would be there

[TroyF]

Fisher was pissed that Kiffin & USC didn't extend the courtesy of informing him and the Titans ahead of time that they wanted to talk with Pola about a job. It was only after Pola accepted the job and told Fisher that he was leaving that Kiffin left Fisher a voice mail about it.

Maybe this suit is partly about the Titans latching on to the Tennessee hatred of Lane Kiffin, but I also wouldn't discount how pissed-off Fisher himself is.

Gotta wonder how long other coaches are going to want to be associated with Kiffin the younger, especially after Monte finally retires...


It's just a classless, stupid move. All of this could have been avoided with a simple phone call to Fisher asking him to make his coach available. Instead Kiffin sneaks in and steals a coach a week before training camp opens and then pretends it isn't a big deal.

From what I've read, the Titans have a case and will likely win a monetary settlement. If I were with a program under sanctions, a coach who was considered by many to be loosey goosey with the rules, and was under the scrutiny USC is under now, I'd watch every single move I made. I wouldn't even want a PR disaster. Just make it through the offseason, get back to playing football and hope this stuff would go away. Instead Kiffin acts like this.

Maybe Haden will walk through the door and fix some of these things. I'm not sure he can force Kiffin to have class though.

[JPhillips]

And like I said in the NFL thread, Fisher is also a multi-millionaire potential donor. I'd be very surprised if he's willing to donate much during Kiffin's tenure.

[dawgfan]

I don't disagree in the slightest that Kiffin the younger is a douchebag.

That said, this lawsuit seems like a petty, vindictive way of retribution. I'm sure it's playing exceptionally well with the locals, but I hope Fisher really had no interest in ever coaching at USC, because this will close that door forever.

[MrBug708]

Pretty sure Fisher has no real desire to coach at USC ever. He didn't even entertain offers from USC this past offseason, before they moved on to Jack Del Rio. Even if Fisher gets fired after this offseason, he can easily get another NFL job if he wanted.

[TroyF]

I don't disagree in the slightest that Kiffin the younger is a douchebag.

That said, this lawsuit seems like a petty, vindictive way of retribution. I'm sure it's playing exceptionally well with the locals, but I hope Fisher really had no interest in ever coaching at USC, because this will close that door forever.

Bud Adams will have filed this lawsuit, not Jeff Fisher. Fisher gave the facts to Adams and Adams will do what he wants. Do I think Fisher is happy about the lawsuit? Oh yeah, i do.

I also think he has zero interest in coaching USC football and that this IS petty and vindictive. It is important to know that the first petty and vindictive move happened from the Kiffin side though.

[Swaggs]

Agreed on it being petty and vindictive, but Kiffin's continued lack of professionalism has become a joke. Here's a guy that has been undeservedly or prematurely been handed the keys to three pretty amazing jobs and hasn't seemed to have learned a bit or improved on how to essentially be the CEO of a football team.

I think it almost appears as if he is the David Shula for USC -- a throwaway patsy to get through the probation years (which the USC athletic department almost certainly knew was coming).

On the other hand, the coach that took the job seems to be sliding under the radar a little too cleanly. If you take a job at the beginning of the year and are entertaining new ones before playing any games, you deserve some heat, too. I guess it sounds like he was keeping Fisher up to speed, but still.

[tarcone]

Big10 Luncheon Next week. Aug. 3rd. Not this week. Sorry about the bad info earlier.

37 days until Kickoff in the Big10.

[Izulde]

In news that shocks no one, TCU was voted the unanimous preseason choice to win the MWC at the Media Football Days panel.

TCU (31 1st place votes) - 279 points
Utah - 242 points
BYU - 207 points
Air Force - 195 points
Wyoming - 147 points
San Diego State - 128 points
Colorado State - 96 points
UNLV - 56 points
New Mexico - 45 points

Sounds roughly about right to me, although I think UNLV is capable of getting to a mid-table finish.

And here's the Preseason All-Mountain West Team


2010 Preseason All-Mountain West Football Team
Offense
QB Andy Dalton#* Sr. TCU
WR Vincent Brown** Sr. San Diego State
WR Phillip Payne Jr. UNLV
RB Eddie Wide* Sr. Utah
RB Jared Tew** Sr. Air Force
OL Matt Reynolds#* Jr. BYU
OL Jake Kirkpatrick** Sr. TCU
OL Caleb Schlauderaff** Sr. Utah
OL Marcus Cannon* Sr. TCU
OL Zane Taylor** Sr. Utah
TE Alston Umuolo Sr. San Diego State
Defense
DL Johnathan Rainey** Jr. New Mexico
DL Wayne Daniels** Sr. TCU
DL Cory Grant** Sr. TCU
LB Carmen Messina* Jr. New Mexico
LB Tank Carder** Jr. TCU
LB Brian Hendricks** Jr. Wyoming
LB Mychal Sisson** Jr. Colorado State
DB Brandon Burton Jr. Utah
DB Reggie Rembert* Sr. Air Force
DB Anthony Wright** Jr. Air Force
DB Andrew Rich** Sr. BYU
DB Chris Prosinski** Sr. Wyoming
Note: Five defensive backs were selected due to a tie in the voting.
Specialists
P Brian Stahovich** Jr. San Diego State
PK Ross Evans* Jr. TCU
Ret. Jeremy Kerley#* Sr. TCU
Offensive Player of the Year:
Andy Dalton, Sr., QB, TCU
Defensive Player of the Year:
Tank Carder, Jr., LB, TCU
Special Teams Player of the Year:
Jeremy Kerley, Sr., KR/PR TCU
# - unanimous 2010 preseason selection.
* - member of the 2009 All-Mountain West Conference first-team.
** - member of the 2009 All-Mountain West Conference second-team.

Nice to see a UNLV mention, as I didn't think we'd have anyone listed. It's going to be a long, long season in Coach Hauck's first year, but I have faith things will improve and hopefully we get to a bowl game during one of my three years there.

[Ksyrup]

Mna, that first weekend schedule of games is WEAK. Remember last year, or even the year before, when we had a several intriguing/solid matchups on Thursday and Friday, not just Saturday? This year...thank God I got Versus back, since Pitt/Utah looks like the best game by far of the first 2 days.

Also glad to have ESPNU in HD this season...

[TroyF]

Mna, that first weekend schedule of games is WEAK. Remember last year, or even the year before, when we had a several intriguing/solid matchups on Thursday and Friday, not just Saturday? This year...thank God I got Versus back, since Pitt/Utah looks like the best game by far of the first 2 days.

Also glad to have ESPNU in HD this season...


Looked at it for the first time after you posted. Wow. It is REALLY weak. PItt vs. Utah is the only interesting one in the first two days.

Saturday is only slightly better:

Illinois/Mizzou, CU/CSU, Purdue/ND, Oregon St/TCU, Washington/BYU, LSU/NC

Then the game of the week on Monday night. Boise St. vs. Va. Tech.

Only LSU/NC and BSU/VT are must see TV type of games. (though I think that Washington/BYU matchup could be fun.

[MrBug708]

The PAC-10's new site and logo are up and running

[tarcone]

Just talked to my brother. He is going to try and get me 4 tickets to the Iowa/Eastern Illinois game. I havent been to an Iowa football game in like 15 years.
It is Fryfest also. It is a big party celebrating Hayden Fry. Free concerts, food, Iowa gear, etc.

I get to take my wife and kids. I have my kids almost convinced to go to Iowa (they are 8 and 10).

I hope this works out. Im real excited.

[DeToxRox]

Jeremiah Masoli is apparently all set to join Ole Miss.

There are reports that WVU, UNLV and Memphis have offered him as well, and Kansas State is debating it, so apparently he has options.

[DeToxRox]

Dola, apparently the Ole Miss Rivals guy is saying Ole Miss will accept him if his school work is in order, but it may take a couple of days so it isn't set in stone but Ole Miss seems optimistic.

[DeToxRox]

Bryce Brown is officially done at Tennessee. He had a meeting with Dooley but never showed then sent him a text saying he was leaving the program.

[k0ruptr]

Dola, apparently the Ole Miss Rivals guy is saying Ole Miss will accept him if his school work is in order, but it may take a couple of days so it isn't set in stone but Ole Miss seems optimistic.

One thing about Masoli is, he may not be the brightest bulb, but in the right system the kid is incredible. But yes only in the right system, and Oregon really was that perfect fit. I am not familiar with Ole Miss, but is it a similar spread optionesque ?

[k0ruptr]

Dola , I was actually hoping that Hawaii would offer him and we could get him over here but that was just a shot in the dark.

[MJ4H]

One thing about Masoli is, he may not be the brightest bulb, but in the right system the kid is incredible. But yes only in the right system, and Oregon really was that perfect fit. I am not familiar with Ole Miss, but is it a similar spread optionesque ?

No, not really. It's more of a power rushing attack with limited passing options. It could work well for him if he is a good rusher (which I assume). It is not any kind of spread or option attack at Ole Miss at all, though.

[Izulde]

Jeremiah Masoli is apparently all set to join Ole Miss.

There are reports that WVU, UNLV and Memphis have offered him as well, and Kansas State is debating it, so apparently he has options.

UNLV did offer him. I mentioned it in one of the other college football threads last week.

[Swaggs]

Jeremiah Masoli is apparently all set to join Ole Miss.

There are reports that WVU, UNLV and Memphis have offered him as well, and Kansas State is debating it, so apparently he has options.

This is the first time I have heard that WVU is involved. We could probably use a capable backup for a year (our current backups are two true freshmen and Pat White's little brother who appears to be moving to the slot), but I don't think we are involved.

[tarcone]

I like Ole Miss in the SEC if he goes there

[BishopMVP]

Idaho catfightBoise State University President Bob Kustra says he sees no reason to continue a longtime football rivalry with the University of Idaho, calling Vandal culture "nasty" and "inebriated."Kustra's criticisms came during an interview with the Idaho Statesman editorial board Tuesday. Kustra later said in a prepared statement that questions about the rivalry "hit a sore spot" and his comments were harsher than he intended.

[I. J. Reilly]

I like Ole Miss in the SEC if he goes there

Maybe it’s just my Oregon State bias showing, but how in the hell is he going to make any impact at all this year? He’s going to have 3 weeks to learn the playbook; there are college players who take 3 years to learn these playbooks. I just don’t see how he can be anything but an emergency option.

[tarcone]

Ole' Miss is a power running team. I would think that would be the easiest type of offense to learn. Im not sure what the Ole Miss playbook looks like, but I cant imagine its more then "24 Belly Right" or "23 Belly left". Or something like that.
And its Mississippi, they have to dumb down the playbook in general. :)

[Chief Rum]

Maybe it’s just my Oregon State bias showing, but how in the hell is he going to make any impact at all this year? He’s going to have 3 weeks to learn the playbook; there are college players who take 3 years to learn these playbooks. I just don’t see how he can be anything but an emergency option.

Unless I missed something, Masoli will still have to sit out a year.

[Izulde]

Unless I missed something, Masoli will still have to sit out a year.

No he won't. He has one year of eligibility remaining and he'll be able to play right away.

[tarcone]

Unless I missed something, Masoli will still have to sit out a year.

You missed something. :)

He will be graduating from Oregon. And he has one year of eligibility left. If you go to another school as a grad student, you dont have to sit out.

[cartman]

You missed something. :)

He will be graduating from Oregon. And he has one year of eligibility left. If you go to another school as a grad student, you dont have to sit out.

That's true only if the degree program of the school you are going to isn't offered by your current school.

[Chief Rum]

Reflective sunglasses? Really, Lane? :D

http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/83/830727.jpg

Picky, sure, but seriously, who does this? "I'm going to the Pac 10 Media Day and I am going to wear sunglasses inside the whole time."

I just laugh, because every time I look up, it seems like the guy is doing something weird. ;)

[Chief Rum]

Lane Kiffen = Shooter McGavin?

Does Lane eat shit for breakfast? :D

[Chief Rum]

Oh gawd, of course! Lane's auditioning for a role on Jersey Shore!

[dawgfan]

Picky, sure, but seriously, who does this? "I'm going to the Pac 10 Media Day and I am going to wear sunglasses inside the whole time."
The Pac-10 Media Day was held on the turf of the Rose Bowl. From the photos I saw, there was a tent with no sides set up. Now, chances are the tent was long enough that even without sides, Kiffin wasn't getting hit with direct sunlight, but maybe there was light reflecting in his eyes.

If had been truly an indoor setting, then I'd be in full agreement with you. But in this case, I'm willing to cut him a little bit of slack.

[Chief Rum]

The Pac-10 Media Day was held on the turf of the Rose Bowl. From the photos I saw, there was a tent with no sides set up. Now, chances are the tent was long enough that even without sides, Kiffin wasn't getting hit with direct sunlight, but maybe there was light reflecting in his eyes.

If had been truly an indoor setting, then I'd be in full agreement with you. But in this case, I'm willing to cut him a little bit of slack.

Killjoy. :)

[Chief Rum]

Oh, as a final addendum to a discussion we all had at length in last year's thread, circa January:

Norm Chow has signed a two year extension with UCLA.

[dawgfan]

Killjoy. :)
Trust me, it pained me to defend Kiffin...

[Groundhog]

We had work drinks last night and I was talking to a contractor who I hadn't met before. Turns out he was the kicker for Ole Miss and apparently he and his family were in the Blind Side book on Michael Orr as well, as one of the families who tried to adopt him. Very random.

[Chief Rum]

We had work drinks last night and I was talking to a contractor who I hadn't met before. Turns out he was the kicker for Ole Miss and apparently he and his family were in the Blind Side book on Michael Orr as well, as one of the families who tried to adopt him. Very random.

Wait? So how many Ole Miss alumni tried to adopt the kid? lol

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Looks like Bryce Brown has finally made his decision and is transferring to Kansas State.

[tarcone]

Looks like Bryce Brown has finally made his decision and is transferring to Kansas State.

At least he is closer to Ft. Leavenworth.

[tarcone]

35 days until Iowa kicks off. Im crossing my fingers that I havce 4 tickets.

Iowa won its first bowl game, The 1957 Rose Bowl, over Oregon State, 35-19.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Thought this was pretty neat. Some vintage footage from 1928 MU-KU game. Had the gymnastic team performing, a band, and evidently the cross country race finished in the stadium during halftime.

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[MrBug708]

Hey Cartman, ready for more this year? :)

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4150/4846552665_4dcb6bf1b1.jpg

[Chief Rum]

Hey Cartman, ready for more this year? :)

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4150/4846552665_4dcb6bf1b1.jpg

lol...way to go, Bug. Poke a stick at the monster that is Texas with our picked for eighth place in the Pac 10 team--and on the road, to boot.

I would keep typing, but I think the doorbell just rang. It's probably karma coming to kick our ass.

[cartman]

I feel 100% confident in making the statement that UCLA will not perform a repeat of their 66-3 win last time they visited Austin. I might be going out on a limb with that prediction, but so be it. :D

[MrBug708]

Has there ever been a 75 point spring in a college football game? :)

[cartman]

The only good thing to come out that game from a Longhorn perspective was that it marked the beginning of the end of the John Mackovic era.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Masoli joining Ole Miss as a walk-on.
Former Oregon Ducks QB Jeremiah Masoli says he'll walk on at Mississippi - ESPN (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5428720)

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

In case you're looking for a countdown ranking, found a good one with a lot of good information on each team. He's doing a team a day and is up to #32.

Pre-Snap Read: A College Football Blog (http://www.presnapread.com/)

[Kodos]

Can't wait to see how Missouri fares in the Big Ten!

[tarcone]

Can't wait to see how Missouri fares in the Big Ten!

Undefeated or winless, I imagine.

[I. J. Reilly]

Check his pockets.

Come on, Masoli was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. Just like that other time. And the other one.

[Poli]

And he'll tell you that on his website. Just giving a shout out to his website.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Undefeated or winless, I imagine.

MU will certainly not be winless, so I'm looking forward to the undefeated season you envision.

[Izulde]

Masoli joining Ole Miss as a walk-on.
Former Oregon Ducks QB Jeremiah Masoli says he'll walk on at Mississippi - ESPN (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5428720)

Guess he didn't want that starting spot at UNLV. Oh well, at least this way I won't have mixed emotions about him. :)

[tarcone]

MU will certainly not be winless, so I'm looking forward to the undefeated season you envision.

Missouri plays one Big10 team (Illinois). So, unless they tie, Missouri will be either winless or undefeated in the Big10. :)

[cartman]

Looks like Notre Dame and Texas are close to agreeing to a 4 game series starting in 2015. No word yet if it will be a home and home arrangement or at a neutral site.

[tarcone]

They could form their own conference. Call it the Humongously Big II.

[BishopMVP]

Looks like Notre Dame and Texas are close to agreeing to a 4 game series starting in 2015. No word yet if it will be a home and home arrangement or at a neutral site.Would Texas consider doing a 2(ND home)/1 (UT home)/1 (neutral) if the "neutral" site was Jerry's World? Or even New Orleans if the site has to be out of the B12's footprint (I remember that being why the ND-WSU game was in San Antonio - the TV rights to any game in the Pac-10 coverage area would fall under their TV contract instead of going to NBC.)

Either way, I don't know if Brian Kelly has anything to do with it, or it's just pushback from alumni to the AD about playing non-BCS schools at home, but I'm loving the new arrangements. Miami, Michigan, rumors of Oklahoma and Texas. No more Western Michigan's and San Jose State's at home.

[Atocep]

Marshall dismisses 3 of it's incoming freshmen for robbing 2 pizza delivery men on campus. One of the players, Fred Pickett, is a Pahokee kid and another, Antwan Chisholm, already has a felony on his record.

[k0ruptr]

wtf? they robbed a pizza delivery guy? first of all, if they were robbing him for money they truly are idiots. well thats obvious already because they committed a robbery, but these delivery guys only carry like 20 dollars in change lmao. 2nd of all , if they weren't robbing him for money, they must be broke ass freshman that were really hungry, and probably stoned. lol . Hope that pizza was worth jeopardizing your future for. How the fuck does robbing a pizza guy even make sense. geez.

[k0ruptr]

dola. How do people that find it a good idea to rob a Pizza delivery guy even smart enough to graduate high school? or even get accepted at Marshall? isn't Marshall an alright school education wise? or am I way off.

[BishopMVP]

HS? It's Pahokee HS in Florida, about the poorest and most educationally (and technologically) backward part of that state, possibly even the entire south. That's the everglades region where ridiculous amounts of D1/NFL players come from, and they're almost always getting into trouble.

Getting into Marshall? They're D1(-ish) football players - it's not like they were on academic scholarships. And even at very good schools like UCLA, Michigan and Texas (and pretty much every other one I'm sure) we've seen football players getting caught for retarded robberies.

[Big Fo]

wtf? they robbed a pizza delivery guy? first of all, if they were robbing him for money they truly are idiots. well thats obvious already because they committed a robbery, but these delivery guys only carry like 20 dollars in change lmao. 2nd of all , if they weren't robbing him for money, they must be broke ass freshman that were really hungry, and probably stoned. lol . Hope that pizza was worth jeopardizing your future for. How the fuck does robbing a pizza guy even make sense. geez.

It depends on how busy the place is, if the delivery person couldn't find a few minutes to do a cash drop in between runs it's possible that the person could have a few hundred dollars on them.

[Poli]

Tennessee reinstates Walls and King (suspended for the bar brawl).

[Atocep]

Some more entertainment from the Pizza robbery; the 3rd guy, Mike Fleurizard, is the only one of the 3 charged so far (charges pending on the other 2 as they sort things out) and his facebook status at the time of his arrest stated "hustler- full time go getta- i get money".

From the 2 robberies they made off with a whopping $290.

[k0ruptr]

lol. thats sad.

[Ksyrup]

At least they made off with enough money to buy an Xbox360 and a copy of NCAA 2011.

[DeToxRox]

There is a rumor that Alabama and Michigan will open the 2012 season in the JerryDome.

God I fucking hope so.

[DeToxRox]

HS? It's Pahokee HS in Florida, about the poorest and most educationally (and technologically) backward part of that state, possibly even the entire south. That's the everglades region where ridiculous amounts of D1/NFL players come from, and they're almost always getting into trouble.

Getting into Marshall? They're D1(-ish) football players - it's not like they were on academic scholarships. And even at very good schools like UCLA, Michigan and Texas (and pretty much every other one I'm sure) we've seen football players getting caught for retarded robberies.

The Pahokee Kids at UM haven't had any issues. Obviously history shows it is possible, but they are amongst the hardest workers and never in danger of qualifying.

[RainMaker]

First Big 10 title game will be played in Indy. Guess that makes sense. I do hope that Chicago gets a game at some point. Would be great to have a Championship game played in the real elements.

First Big Ten championship game will be played in Indianapolis - Campus Rivalry: College Football & Basketball News, Recruiting, Game Picks, and More - USATODAY.com (http://content.usatoday.com/communities/campusrivalry/post/2010/08/first-big-ten-championship-game-will-be-played-in-indianapolis/1)

[cartman]

The Texas-ND series is official. At South Bend in 2015 and 2020, in Austin 2016 and 2019.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

The Texas-ND series is official. At South Bend in 2015 and 2020, in Austin 2016 and 2019.

Noticed you left out the part where both stadiums will require an expansion to hold the overinflated egos of both fan bases.

[cartman]

Noticed you left out the part where both stadiums will require an expansion to hold the overinflated egos of both fan bases.

All time wins in football list:

1. Michigan
2. Texas
3. Notre Dame
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41. Missouri

No wonder you have a pile of rocks in one endzone.

[MrBug708]

That will be a great PAC-16 vs Big-16 game

[BishopMVP]

All time wins in football list:

1. Michigan
2. Texas
3. Notre Dame
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.
.
41. Missouri

No wonder you have a pile of rocks in one endzone.That goes nicely with

BCS Football Programs Net Revenue
1. Texas $65.02 million
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6. Notre Dame $38.18 million
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40. Missouri $8.46 million

The 2/2 split makes sense, and I wouldn't be surprised if we tried to schedule aTm and/or an additional neutral site game in Texas soon. I think ND is really trying to make a push for visibility in that state amongst recruits, possibly even to the extent we want 1 game a year in it.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

All time wins in football list:

1. Michigan
2. Texas
3. Notre Dame
.
.
.
41. Missouri

No wonder you have a pile of rocks in one endzone.

Texas beats Mizzou in football each year, Mizzou beats Texas in basketball each year. It's a wash I suppose. But it's always good to see someone make a post that proves me right.

[MrBug708]

Texas is 9-4 vs Missouri in the Rick Barnes era, including 4-2 in Columbia, no?

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Texas is 9-4 vs Missouri in the Rick Barnes era, including 4-2 in Columbia, no?

Haven't beat Mizzou since 1/11/2007. It was discussed at length in the basketball thread last season. They'll be hoping to break that string this year in Austin.

[MrBug708]

Haven't beat Mizzou since 1/1/2007.

So he's 9-4 right?

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

I think ND is really trying to make a push for visibility in that state amongst recruits, possibly even to the extent we want 1 game a year in it.

The best way to get visibility anywhere is to win games. The rest takes care of itself.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

So he's 9-4 right?

So they haven't won against Mizzou since 2007, right?

I'm sure you can do better than that. Texas can't beat Mizzou in basketball and Mizzou can't beat Texas in football. I don't think there's anything overly surprising about that point.

[MrBug708]

So they haven't won against Mizzou since 2007, right?

I'm sure you can do better than that. Texas can't beat Mizzou in basketball and Mizzou can't beat Texas in football. I don't think there's anything overly surprising about that point.

Looks like Mack Brown has 9 wins vs Missouri football so it'll take Missouri football 5 more wins in a row to achieve a .500 record vs a team that can't seem to beat Missouri

[MrBug708]

And in other not so surprising news

Missouri Assistant Head Coach arrested and nary a peep on this board (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/429868-missouri-tigers-news-and-notes-asst-coach-arrested-on-suspicion-of-dwi)

[BishopMVP]

The best way to get visibility anywhere is to win games. The rest takes care of itself.There's a reason why Big 12 rosters are all stocked with Texas players, Pac-10 rosters with Southern Cali players, and SEC schools with Florida players. And why the Big East was so excited to bring in USF after Miami left, and why the SEC is offering aTm and Texas. Winning is the best way to attract recruits, but it helps to do it on national television or near where they live.And in other not so surprising news

Missouri Assistant Head Coach arrested and nary a peep on this board (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/429868-missouri-tigers-news-and-notes-asst-coach-arrested-on-suspicion-of-dwi)Not just arrested for a DUI, arrested for one in the Missouri Athletic Complex parking lot with other coaches and wives. Along with 2 Tigers getting cited and their best player from last season still unsigned heading into training camp. A banner day for Missouri football.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

And in other not so surprising news

Missouri Assistant Head Coach arrested and nary a peep on this board (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/429868-missouri-tigers-news-and-notes-asst-coach-arrested-on-suspicion-of-dwi)

Appreciate the continuing interest in Mizzou. It's impressive that someone on the West Coast continues to monitor our program so closely. We're happy to provide a good team for you to watch while your program rebuilds.

Not just arrested for a DUI, arrested for one in the Missouri Athletic Complex parking lot with other coaches and wives. Along with 2 Tigers getting cited and their best player from last season still unsigned heading into training camp. A banner day for Missouri football.

We're trying to get on equal footing. Won't be long before we can make arrests disappear like they do in other cities. It's an uphill climb.

I'm not surprised you're unaware, but our best player from last year had four knee injuries during his playing career at Mizzou. He's a hard worker, but NFL teams don't usually like to sign injury-prone players. If he didn't have a history of injuries, he would have been drafted high. But he's had an unfortunate run of injuries that limit him in that regard.

[MrBug708]

Appreciate the continuing interest in Mizzou. It's impressive that someone on the West Coast continues to monitor our program so closely. We're happy to provide a good team for you to watch while your program rebuilds.


And yet UCLA has been bowl eligible more years over the past decade then Missouri has. I guess we have different expectations.

As for monitoring, it's like a big circle. You monitor Kansas, everyone else monitors Missouri. I mean, who else is going to share the negative news about Missouri? Certainly not you...

[Ksyrup]

But what has UCLA done since 2007?

[Chief Rum]

But what has UCLA done since 2007?

Like Texas, they have not beaten Missouri!

[whomario]

http://www.andypryke.com/twiki/pub/Andypublic/BlogJanuary2008/sticker_be_nice_to_each_other.jpg

[Atocep]

So as most probably have heard already, the NCAA made a trip to Morgantown as part of its tour investigating various schools throughout the country.

After several months spent on campus and over 80 interviews the worst they found was the coaching staff went over the practice limit by an hour once, GAs attended film study (not allowed at the time, but it's ok for GAs to do this now), and some assistants were a part of 7 on 7s during the summer.

If that's the worst they could find I'll take it because I'm fairly certain that's a clean program compared to most in D-1. This probably results in 2 hours of lost practice, further limitations on what GAs can do for a year or 2, and a couple years probation.

Of course Dennis Dodd at CBS, who for whatever reason takes shots at WVU whenever he can, has predicted forfeiture of games, TV bans, repaying bowl money, ect for those violations (I'm not kidding). I seriously have no idea why Dodd hates WVU, but his articles are entertaining.

[dawgfan]

Bruce Feldman at ESPN.com has a pretty good take on this, essentially saying "this is the best they could come up with after all that investigation?"

[k0ruptr]

Hawaii vs USC in 4 weeks.

[k0ruptr]

Dola, even with all the crap USC is going through - Hawaii is young and raw this season. Its gonna be a rough game no doubt. I have a little faith, and I think its probably for the best we catch USC the first game rather than later in the season. Realistically I think Hawaii's season depends on their Offensive line this year. If they step up to the challenge and play well , we will go bowling (Sheraton Hawaii Bowl). If we get hit by injuries and the young guys don't learn well on the job, its gonna be a long season.

[JonInMiddleGA]

NCAA may go to letter of inquiry status investigating either the hostess incident at UT, other self-reported secondary violations that occurred under lil' Lane, or potentially other things that haven't been reported yet. Two holdover asst's from last season, plus one that left (Eddie Gran) have been interviewed so far.

Hamilton: Possibility exists of letter of inquiry from NCAA » GoVolsXtra (http://www.govolsxtra.com/news/2010/aug/06/hamilton-possibility-exsists-letter-inquiry-ncaa/)

[cartman]

The O-Line is a big question mark for Texas going into the season as well. There are two returning starters, but they are going to play different positions than they did last season. And they'll have to protect Garrett Gilbert, as the only other QB on the roster that had taken an in-game snap left the team today to focus on graduating. The defense should be as strong as ever, even with losing Sergio Kindle and Lamarr Houston to the draft.

[MacroGuru]

And BYU starts camp today...We know the major question marks right now are:

1. Which QB becomes the start?

In spring ball Heaps and Nielsen was ahead of everyone else. Bronco has come out and said in camp it will be a 4 QB race (Heaps, Nielsen, Larks and Munns). He has even gone as far to say he would play 2 QBs in a game until a starter was determined.


2. Who replaces Harvey at Running Back

Kariya was solid against Oklahoma but we have freshman Quezada who supposedly shocked everyone in spring ball. We also have Drew Phillips coming in too...then there is DiLuigi returning. I think we platoon the running backs this year more than we ever have.


3. Our front 7

Fuga returns at NT, Pendleton at LB and So'oto at DE. The rest of the front seven will be either Freshmen or backups from last year. Uona Kavienga was denied the waiver by the NCAA and BYU has appealed...looks like he will still have to sit the year out...he jumped the gun a little early on the transfer.




BYU is picked to take 3rd in the MWC as this is a rebuilding year. We start out against Washington, @AFA, @FSU and Nevada. We could should be 2-2 through that...then our tough road games would be @TCU and @Utah.

We could end the season at 8-4 and which is probably the more realistic record. I would love to see us go 9-3 or even 10-2 and shock everyone.

[DeToxRox]

More bad news for Tennessee apparently.

DE Ben Martin and DT Marlon Walls both have ACL injuries and will miss the year, or so I am reading.

Vols DL depth was already hurt, this is just that much worse for them.

[dawgfan]

I see that the "indefinite" suspension of USC FB Stanley Havili for punching teammate T.J. Bryant in a recent summer workout lasted all of one day.

[MrBug708]

It probably was a whole day because his hamstring hurt and wasn't going to participate anyways

[DeToxRox]

Rumor is Michigan vs Alabma to kick off 2012 @ Jerryworld is going to be official tomorrow. Really excited about this if it comes true.

[MacroGuru]

Should be a fun first quarter but I'll tune out by the time it gets to 46-7 early in the 2nd.

I didn't realize you had that much faith in Michigan!

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

14 of 120 FBS schools make a profit........

NCAA report: Economy cuts into college athletics - ESPN (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5490686)

[BishopMVP]

And if we want to relate it to football
Sixty-eight FBS schools reported turning a profit on football, with a median value of $8.8 million. The 52 FBS schools that lost money on football reported median losses of $2.7 million.

The breakdown for basketball programs at those 120 schools was nearly identical, though the median values for profitable programs ($2.9 million) and money-losing ones ($873,000) were smaller.

The fiscal fortunes of major college athletic programs without football teams were even worse. None of the 97 schools in that category reported making money from athletics, with median losses of more than $2.8 million.

Fulks pointed out that many schools funnel profits from football and men's basketball -- which for the top schools can mean millions in Bowl Championship Series payments and NCAA tournament payments -- into lower-profile sports that can't rely on season ticket plans, TV packages and well-heeled donors.

[Atocep]

Oregon State Beavers lineman dismissed after arrest for trespassing naked - ESPN (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5491740)

CORVALLIS, Ore. -- An Oregon State University offensive lineman has been dismissed from the team after police say they found him naked and intoxicated in a stranger's home and had to use stun guns to take him into custody.
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<!-- end inline 1 -->Corvallis police say they received the call about a naked intruder early Sunday.

Responding officers ordered 19-year-old Tyler Patrick Thomas of Kalispell, Mont., to get on the ground, Lt. Tim Brewer said. Thomas refused and instead dropped into a three-point stance like a football player and lunged at the officers, Brewer said. At that point, he said, two officers fired their stun guns.

Brewer said Thomas "absolutely was intoxicated" at the time. Thomas was arrested on suspicion of criminal trespass, criminal mischief and resisting arrest. He was booked into the Benton County jail and later released.

A home phone listing for Thomas couldn't be found.

Oregon State coach Mike Riley dismissed Thomas from the team Monday, OSU athletics spokesman Steve Fenk said. Thomas redshirted during the Beavers' 2009 season.

[Groundhog]

Dropped into the three-point stance and lunged at them. Nice.

[BishopMVP]

One of the FootballOutsiders guys attempts to rank the top 100 teams of all time using statistics... and you'll never guess what #1 team it shakes out - FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | The Top 100 College Football Teams of the Last 100 Years: Part V (http://www.footballoutsiders.com/varsity-numbers/2010/top-100-college-football-teams-last-100-years-part-v)

[I. J. Reilly]

Oregon State Beavers lineman dismissed after arrest for trespassing naked - ESPN (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5491740)

You can give me guys shit for not being able to close the deal and win a Pac-10 title, but you can’t take away the fact that they really know how to deliver the WTF offseason arrest stories.

[MrBug708]

No word on if any gay sheep were involved

[cartman]

One of the FootballOutsiders guys attempts to rank the top 100 teams of all time using statistics... and you'll never guess what #1 team it shakes out - FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | The Top 100 College Football Teams of the Last 100 Years: Part V (http://www.footballoutsiders.com/varsity-numbers/2010/top-100-college-football-teams-last-100-years-part-v)

They have an interesting concept, but it falls apart a bit when they admit that for a large number of the teams from the early days get an 'estimated' S&P+ and compare that against teams that have a true S&P+ rating.

[molson]

You can give me guys shit for not being able to close the deal and win a Pac-10 title, but you can’t take away the fact that they really know how to deliver the WTF offseason arrest stories.

It must be crazy to grow up in northwestern Montana. That's just a normal Saturday night up there.

[the_meanstrosity]

And in other not so surprising news

Missouri Assistant Head Coach arrested and nary a peep on this board (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/429868-missouri-tigers-news-and-notes-asst-coach-arrested-on-suspicion-of-dwi)

Like coach like player at Missouri. MBBF's coverage of his program is really lacking.

http://www.kansascity.com/2010/08/23/2170229/missouri-linebacker-arrested-for.html

[I. J. Reilly]

It must be crazy to grow up in northwestern Montana. That's just a normal Saturday night up there.

Yeah, you have to feel for the guy. It must be quite a culture shock when you hit the big city of Corvallis.:)

[MrBug708]

He's too busy helping the FBI with the Kansas investigation :)

[the_meanstrosity]

He's too busy helping the FBI with the Kansas investigation :)

Yeah, I'm still waiting on that FBI investigation that nobody but MBBF seems to know about, lol.

I do have some MU gold for you though. I'm not sure if I should post it in the forums, but I'll PM you the link.

[tarcone]

I got 4 tickets to the Iowa/Eastern Illinois game. I havent been to an Iowa football game at Kinnick in about 20 years.
I get to take my wife and kids. They have never been to a college football game.
I am so excited, I can barely contain myself.

[the_meanstrosity]

I got 4 tickets to the Iowa/Eastern Illinois game. I havent been to an Iowa football game at Kinnick in about 20 years.
I get to take my wife and kids. They have never been to a college football game.
I am so excited, I can barely contain myself.

College football season is a great time of year. The pageantry, the fans, and everything else just makes it one of my favorite sports to attend.

[Ksyrup]

I know he's got a book to sell, but this Bobby Bowden "story" is laughable. He was pushed out? Gee, you don't say! 90% of FSU fans wished he had been pushed out a couple of years earlier. You don't want the university to play this as if you agreed to retire? Um, the only reason that was the official story was to save you the embarrassment of the reality of the situation, not because they thought anyone would buy that story straight-up.

Oh, and the ex-head coach is no longer friendly with the former university president? Damn, that's going to cause all sorts of problems for the school - oh wait, this just means one less stamp for the X-Mas card list.

We'll always love you, Bobby, but please drop this crap. It's unbecoming. Perhaps if you hadn't been so loyal to family and long-time friends, you could have left on your terms.

[Poli]

Agreed, ksyrup. I felt the loyalty factor and complacency was also what led to Fulmer's demise.

[Ksyrup]

And as I recall, didn't JoePa agree to a big housecleaning back about 5 or 6 years ago when he was coming off a couple of bad seasons? Seems that bought him some time and goodwill/benefit of the doubt from the fans/school.

[DeToxRox]

I know in regards to Bowden that I have heard a few times he told people he'd of his volition if FSU ever started losing 4 games.

[Chief Rum]

As a long suffering UCLA football fan, it's amazing to me how this stuff just will kick you and keep kicking you, no matter how much you no longer need it.

UCLA has lot not one or two or three, but five potential and past starters to the O-line since last season now, and we're still almost ten days away from the season opener. It's gotten so stupid, it's comical.

T Xavier Sua-Filo leaves on his mission (starting LT and 2009 Freshman AA)
T Nik Abele medical retirement because of neck issues (heir apparent to Sua Filo; was getting rave reviews in practice reports prior to injury)
T Mike Harris suspended for Kansas State (violation of team rules; at least he'll be back, set to start at RT)
C Kai Maiava breaks ankle in fall camp scrimmage (out until late October; starting C last season and a team leader)
G Jeff Baca drops a spring class and unwittingly falls below the NCAA min requirements for credits to complete, making him ineligible this fall (two year starter at G)

Sua-Filo, Maiava and Baca were locks to start if they were on this team and eligible and healthy. Harris would have likely been at RT, but even if he didn't start, his main competition would have probably been Abele. So either way, that's four clear starters and a key backup.

It's nuts how all this crap can happen to one unit. You spread out, a WR here, a LB there, etc., a team adjusts and deals, but you lose that many on one unit, it can be catastrophic.

[Chief Rum]

Oh yeah, and Stan Hasiak, a highly recruited G, is academically ineligible, although admittedly, with his issues last year, it's unknown how much he would have been able to contribute this year anyway. Still, yet another body missing from the biggest unit on the team.

[dawgfan]

Nevermind - you dola'd about Hasiak before I finished my post.

Seriously, the offensive line is easily the biggest thing that could hold back the Bruins this season. Replacing Price is difficult, but there's a lot of talent returning on the defense and a lot of good young skill players on offense. I'm not 100% sold on Prince, but he's got a lot of skills. But man, that OL - if UCLA falls short of a bowl and finishes in the lower half of the conference, I have no doubt it can mainly be traced back to that.

[Chief Rum]

Nevermind - you dola'd about Hasiak before I finished my post.

Seriously, the offensive line is easily the biggest thing that could hold back the Bruins this season. Replacing Price is difficult, but there's a lot of talent returning on the defense and a lot of good young skill players on offense. I'm not 100% sold on Prince, but he's got a lot of skills. But man, that OL - if UCLA falls short of a bowl and finishes in the lower half of the conference, I have no doubt it can mainly be traced back to that.

Definitely.

Now it's not completely a DOA situation. Sean Sheller is a physical beast with experience who will get his shot now at LT with Abele and Sua-Filo gone. Harris, also exsperienced, will be back for Stanford. Micah Kia started for most of two seasons before missing last year to injury and he's well thought of, he slides down to LG. Ryan Taylor had actually beaten out Maiava at C for a time in spring practice, so he will be at C. And Eddie Williams returns at RG.

For the most part, these five are all large and experienced. They know what they're doing, and the Pistol offense helps offensive lines as well. If they stay healthy (huge IF) and keep it together at least until Maiava comes back, there's enough talent there to still be more than adequate enough at the position. But the depth is just so threadbare. It's JUCOs, longtime iffy backups, walk ons and redshirt & true frosh behind that five.

My only concern about Prince is his propensity to get himself hurt. I think, with the talent he has to work with and the growth he showed last season and in practice since, he could be a real surprise to people this year.

[MrBug708]

Same old story with being a UCLA fan

[bhlloy]

Would this be a bad time to suggest it might be karma coming back to bite after all the times Bug ridiculed USC's o-line depth in the past few months? :D

Seriously, that sucks for Abele. Really good kid and wanted to see him do well. Team doctors must be really cracking down on neck injuries, we already release Jarvis Jones because of one that we thought was career ending and at one point last week the docs though Khaled Holmes career could be over as well.

[Chief Rum]

Would this be a bad time to suggest it might be karma coming back to bite after all the times Bug ridiculed USC's o-line depth in the past few months? :D

Seriously, that sucks for Abele. Really good kid and wanted to see him do well. Team doctors must be really cracking down on neck injuries, we already release Jarvis Jones because of one that we thought was career ending and at one point last week the docs though Khaled Holmes career could be over as well.

To be fair, USC does have O-line depth issues. ;)

Word is, Abele may still come back next season, if his condition goes a certain way. I don't know how smart that is, but I love the passion. I have no idea if UCLA's trainers/edical staff would be willing to let him back or not; they might do the same thing to Abele that USC's medical staff did with Jones.

But, whatever, that's next season. I hope for the best for the kid regardless.

[digamma]

Act fast, and you too can be an Oklahoma Sooner!

http://www.bobstoops.com/walk-on-tryouts

[Chief Rum]

Boomer Sooner!

Mr. Stoops, hold me a spot. My Shake Weight is coming express!

[MrBug708]

Would this be a bad time to suggest it might be karma coming back to bite after all the times Bug ridiculed USC's o-line depth in the past few months? :D

Seriously, that sucks for Abele. Really good kid and wanted to see him do well. Team doctors must be really cracking down on neck injuries, we already release Jarvis Jones because of one that we thought was career ending and at one point last week the docs though Khaled Holmes career could be over as well.

We've had OL problems for about a decade now so I doubt it's that issue :)

[dawgfan]

Act fast, and you too can be an Oklahoma Sooner!

http://www.bobstoops.com/walk-on-tryouts
Gotta think that Kiffin is going to be doing something similar, if he hasn't already...

[cartman]

Jeebs, sounds like the Texas return trip to El Paso was moved to 2016, to make room for an extra conference game.

Texas Longhorns: Football, Basketball, Baseball and more | Statesman.com (http://www.statesman.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/austin/longhorns/entries/2010/08/25/texasutep_footb.html?cxntfid=blogs_bevo_beat)

[MrBug708]

Jeff Baca released the following statement to reporters after receiving the NCAA ruling:
"As I read the decision by the NCAA," Baca told the reporters, "... I read between the lines and there was nothing but a lot of envy. They wish they all were Jeff Baca. "Today I got a purpose for really wanting to dominate for another 2 years." Baca added he "felt invigorated by this stuff" and that "with the appeal ruling I got today I know I am bigger than life."

[cartman]

Behold the 2010 Hater's Guide to the Top 25 (NSFW language):

hxxp://deadspin.com/5620076/the-2010-haters-guide-to-the-top-25

[DeToxRox]

Ruh roh North Carolina:


UNC Uncovers Academic Infractions


By Greg Barnes
Inside Carolina
Posted Aug 26, 2010

CHAPEL HILL, N.C. --- North Carolina has submitted academic infractions regarding its football team to the NCAA, according to sources close to the situation. The University has announced a press conference Thursday for 7:30 p.m.

Officials from North Carolina uncovered the academic issues in its own review, pertaining to a tutor, and self-reported the findings to the NCAA.
Sources report the various players involved were relegated to the scout team at practice on Wednesday.

North Carolina has announced it will hold a press conference on Thursday at 7:30 p.m. for what it is calling "an update on the NCAA investigation." In attendance will be chancellor Holden Thorp, athletic director Dick Baddour, and football coach Butch Davis.

These academic findings are a new element to the ongoing NCAA investigation.

UNC received an interview notice form on June 21 from the NCAA, which requested to interview student-athletes. Inside Carolina broke the story on July 15 that the investigation centered on possible improper contact with sports agents.

Telephone and financial release forms were requested for the student-athletes involved, as well as text message printouts for the past year. The interviews were conducted on July 12-13.

The NCAA returned to UNC for a second round of interviews on Aug 4-5.

[DeToxRox]

Also apparently all the stand outs (Austin, Quinn, Carter) were pulled from taking first team reps today and put on the Scout team.

[DeToxRox]

Wow, triple dola here but the UNC/LSU game has been pulled off of the board in Vegas. They obviously have a good idea shits about to hit the fan.

[cartman]

Texas and USC have announced a home and home series in 2017 and 2018. First game at the Coliseum, second game in Austin.

[Chief Rum]

Wow, triple dola here but the UNC/LSU game has been pulled off of the board in Vegas. They obviously have a good idea shits about to hit the fan.

Well, to be fair, I have no connections whatsoever at either school, with either of each school's conferences, the NCAA or any remotely potentially interested party, but even I know shit's about to hit the fan there.

[dawgfan]

Texas and USC have announced a home and home series in 2017 and 2018. First game at the Coliseum, second game in Austin.
Kudos to both programs for scheduling this series - good to see premier programs playing one another.

[BishopMVP]

Texas and USC have announced a home and home series in 2017 and 2018. First game at the Coliseum, second game in Austin.When checking to see if this overlapped with the ND games (it doesn't - ND/UT is 2015,16,19,20) I saw that Notre Dame/Texas is listed as the opener each of the 4 seasons. Are those dates actually set already, or is it just a guess? If yes, I'm not a huge fan - week 1 games are always sloppier. (Same reason why I am against the NFL's push for 2 preseason/18 regular season games.)

[cartman]

When checking to see if this overlapped with the ND games (it doesn't - ND/UT is 2015,16,19,20) I saw that Notre Dame/Texas is listed as the opener each of the 4 seasons. Are those dates actually set already, or is it just a guess? If yes, I'm not a huge fan - week 1 games are always sloppier. (Same reason why I am against the NFL's push for 2 preseason/18 regular season games.)

Looks like they will be the 2nd or 3rd games of the season. 2017 is scheduled for Sept. 16th, and 2018 is Sept. 15th.

[Eaglesfan27]

Texas and USC have announced a home and home series in 2017 and 2018. First game at the Coliseum, second game in Austin.

Looking forward to it. I've been wanting to get back to the Coliseum for years and hope to go to that game when the time comes.

[BishopMVP]

Looks like they will be the 2nd or 3rd games of the season. 2017 is scheduled for Sept. 16th, and 2018 is Sept. 15th.I was talking about the ND-Texas games. mackbrown-texasfootball has them as Sept. 5, Sept. 3, Aug 31 and Sept. 12

[cartman]

Yeah, those are the currently agreed upon dates. Looks like all of them except for the 4th one will be season openers.

[Swaggs]

I wonder if UNC is going to get hammered for this. It seems like the NCAA is building a pretty significant case against them on multiple fronts.

[bhlloy]

Well, I'm sure the self-reporting of the academic fraud and the suspensions that will inevitably follow is somewhat of a sacrificial lamb to take the heat off the alleged other infractions. This will be a very interesting test case to see if the NCAA is really declaring war or if they are willing to back off if a school makes some concessions and is willing to self-sanction to some degree. The severity of USC's punishment was basically down to the fact that they wouldn't take any sort of action or accept any wrongdoing that might affect the football team (Garrett - please die a slow and painful death). I'm very interested to see how this one ends up.

[Logan]

I assume that if it got bad enough, they'd let the football program die to protect basketball.

[Butter]

What, a lot of academic fraud and agent hanky-panky around a Butch Davis run program? Say it ain't so.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Georgia running back Ealey arrested by UGA police | The Red and Black (http://www.redandblack.com/2010/08/27/georgia-running-back-ealey-arrested-by-uga-police/)

Georgia starting running back Washaun Ealey was arrested by University police early Friday morning, charged with driving with a suspended license and hit and run on a parked vehicle.

Ealey was arrested at 5:22 a.m. He remained in jail as of 9:15 this morning.

According to UGA police chief Jimmy Williamson, a parking services employee witnessed a 2004 Chevy Impala hit a pickup truck in the East Campus Parking Deck and called the police at 3:19 this morning. The parking service employee told the driver to wait because police were called, but the individual left the scene.

When police arrived, they ran the tag number of the car and went to the dorm room of the car’s owner, who is Ealey’s roommate. The roommate said he had not been driving, but Ealey had been driving. Ealey admitted to driving the car, and after it was determined he also had a suspended license, he was charged with that as well.

Williamson said no alcohol was related in the arrest.

Ealey, who was named the co-number one running back with Caleb King, appeared in nine games as a true freshman, with two starts making 125 carries for a team leading 717 yards and three touchdowns.

This marks the eighth arrest of a UGA football player in the off-season. The most recent arrests occurred in early July when Dontavius Jackson and Tavarres King were arrested by UGA police. Jackson was charged with DUI under the age of 21, Move Over Law violation, underage possession of alcohol, driving in violation of license class, following too closely and leaving the scene of an accident. Tavarres King was charged with underage possession of alcohol. Jackson has transferred from UGA while King was suspended for the first game of the season.

[Swaggs]

Am I totally wrong in thinking/remembering that Davis was supposed to be the guy that cleaned up Miami and acted as kind of the caretaker after Dennis Erickson let things get "just a wee bit" out of hand? Or was he just better at hiding it?

I'm actually kind of surprised this is going on. And even moreso that, if they are doing all this cheating, they aren't doing much better in what has been a pretty mediocre period of time for the ACC during Davis' tenure.

[DeToxRox]

Am I totally wrong in thinking/remembering that Davis was supposed to be the guy that cleaned up Miami and acted as kind of the caretaker after Dennis Erickson let things get "just a wee bit" out of hand? Or was he just better at hiding it?

I'm actually kind of surprised this is going on. And even moreso that, if they are doing all this cheating, they aren't doing much better in what has been a pretty mediocre period of time for the ACC during Davis' tenure.

The agent thing doesn't shock me, mainly because his D has 5 potential first round picks so it makes sense for agents to be buzzing around there.

The other stuff I am not sure on.

[cartman]

Big blow for Mizzou as their starting RB and team captain Derrick Washington was suspended indefinitely due to sexual assault allegations.

Mizzou RB Derrick Washington Suspended Indefinitely, Accused Of Sexual Assault - SB Nation Kansas City (http://kansascity.sbnation.com/2010/8/26/1652555/derrick-washington-suspended-missouri-tigers)

[MrBug708]

Apparently Missouri was upset that Kansas was getting all of the press of late.

[tarcone]

Rumors about Washington is that it was his GFs apartment and he was knocking on the door and his GFs roommate got scared. It supposedly happened in June and is now just coming out.

This one seems a little fishy to me.

[MrBug708]

Rumors about Washington is that it was his GFs apartment and he was knocking on the door and his GFs roommate got scared. It supposedly happened in June and is now just coming out.

This one seems a little fishy to me.

I would imagine so. Looking over tigerboard.com, its hard to tell whats going on, but the gist seems to be that he was trying to get in his gf's house at 230 in the morning, roommate let him in, something happened, he went to the other room and then left. Roommate moves outta town shortly afterwards and apparently returned recently.

[BishopMVP]

I don't think Davis is a particularly dirty coach - the agent thing at least he seems quite sincere in being pissed about and trying to avoid, but with 5 1st-round picks what can he do? Then again, I still don't think Calipari is dirtier than other basketball coaches, so who knows.

[DeToxRox]

I don't think Davis is a particularly dirty coach - the agent thing at least he seems quite sincere in being pissed about and trying to avoid, but with 5 1st-round picks what can he do? Then again, I still don't think Calipari is dirtier than other basketball coaches, so who knows.

I think the issue is John Blake, not Butch Davis. Then again Butch did hire him. Blake's been dogged his entire career by different allegations so I assume where there is smoke there is fire.

[tarcone]

Its sad we are talking about cheating and criminal activity. The season is less then a week away and we are talking about that stuff. College football is turning into pro football. :(

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Rumors about Washington is that it was his GFs apartment and he was knocking on the door and his GFs roommate got scared. It supposedly happened in June and is now just coming out.

This one seems a little fishy to me.

I'm not about to try to defend anyone if something criminal did happen, but this is more than a bit iffy given what's come out. No charges after nearly three months and the accuser has missed court dates on more than one occasion. You would think the accuser would be a bit more motivated to make sure things are rectified if something really happened.

Mizzou should be able to handle the non-conference schedule with ease even without Washington. If he's able to get back on the team and play at least a game before conference play, it shouldn't be that big of a deal. If he's not back by conference play, then Mizzou is pretty thin at running back with only freshman on the depth chart behind Kendial Lawrence.

[BishopMVP]

Its sad we are talking about cheating and criminal activity. The season is less then a week away and we are talking about that stuff. College football is turning into pro football. :(I might have established that I'm not the biggest stickler in the world, but there is no way your last sentence is accurate. College basketball might be worse today because of the one and done age limit, but any increase in reported violations around college football is due entirely to an NCAA crackdown and a proliferation in wannabe media outlets that will publish rumors and half-truths as opposed to an increase in the number of violations themselves. imo of course.

[cartman]

Its sad we are talking about cheating and criminal activity. The season is less then a week away and we are talking about that stuff. College football is turning into pro football. :(

I might have established that I'm not the biggest stickler in the world, but there is no way your last sentence is accurate. College basketball might be worse today because of the one and done age limit, but any increase in reported violations around college football is due entirely to an NCAA crackdown and a proliferation in wannabe media outlets that will publish rumors and half-truths as opposed to an increase in the number of violations themselves. imo of course.

Plus, there is the numbers game. In FBS college football you have 120 schools with 80+ guys in the prime of their knucklehead years (18-22) vs. the pros where you have 32 teams with 53 guys in a wide range of ages, from 21-40+. Odds are you are gonna get more stories about guys doing stupid stuff from the college ranks.

[BishopMVP]

Plus, there is the numbers game. In FBS college football you have 120 schools with 80+ guys in the prime of their knucklehead years (18-22) vs. the pros where you have 32 teams with 53 guys in a wide range of ages, from 21-40+. Odds are you are gonna get more stories about guys doing stupid stuff from the college ranks.I wasn't even going for that angle... I was responding to the idea that college football is somehow getting worse, or has more players getting paid under the table today than before... USC may have gone beyond the pale in 21st century terms, but compared to teams like SMU and Oklahoma from the 1980's they're choir boys.

[RainMaker]

Its sad we are talking about cheating and criminal activity. The season is less then a week away and we are talking about that stuff. College football is turning into pro football. :(
I was going to say it's not the NFL till we get fans of the team jumping in to call the claims bullshit and to question the accuser's credibility. And then on cue.

I'm not about to try to defend anyone if something criminal did happen, but this is more than a bit iffy given what's come out. No charges after nearly three months and the accuser has missed court dates on more than one occasion. You would think the accuser would be a bit more motivated to make sure things are rectified if something really happened.

[RainMaker]

Just found out a friend of mine who is a Northwestern season ticket holder is guaranteed tickets to the Illinois game at Wrigley Field and is taking me. I have been to a few NU games in the past, but none that should have the atmosphere of this one. I'm really looking forward to it and interested in seeing what the crowd dynamic is.

[the_meanstrosity]

Another Missouri football player arrested? Missouri's third string is going to be awfully good those first cupcake games.

http://www.kansascity.com/2010/08/29/2185167/another-mu-football-player-arrested.html

[tarcone]

Just found out a friend of mine who is a Northwestern season ticket holder is guaranteed tickets to the Illinois game at Wrigley Field and is taking me. I have been to a few NU games in the past, but none that should have the atmosphere of this one. I'm really looking forward to it and interested in seeing what the crowd dynamic is.

I love going to Wrigley and I love college football. What a combo. have fun.

This will be the longest week of my life. Going to Iowa City on Friday. Hitting Fryfest and then to the Iowa/EIU game Saturday. With my family. I am soooooooooooooooo excited.

[RainMaker]

I love going to Wrigley and I love college football. What a combo. have fun.

This will be the longest week of my life. Going to Iowa City on Friday. Hitting Fryfest and then to the Iowa/EIU game Saturday. With my family. I am soooooooooooooooo excited.
My brother is an EIU grad and is excited to just see his team play on the Big 10 Network. He did joke that he would feel better if they gave the EIU AD one of those giant phony checks after the blowout for a photo-op.

He's just hoping they can keep it within 60 since I believe Penn State beat them by that much last year.

[the_meanstrosity]

I'm not about to try to defend anyone if something criminal did happen, but this is more than a bit iffy given what's come out. No charges after nearly three months and the accuser has missed court dates on more than one occasion. You would think the accuser would be a bit more motivated to make sure things are rectified if something really happened.

Mizzou should be able to handle the non-conference schedule with ease even without Washington. If he's able to get back on the team and play at least a game before conference play, it shouldn't be that big of a deal. If he's not back by conference play, then Mizzou is pretty thin at running back with only freshman on the depth chart behind Kendial Lawrence.

Looks like the prosecutors charged Washington today with assault.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gusZyIh8xq1hd7w7QGW5PMQmRC2gD9HTV0K00

[MrBug708]

And it looks like Washington has been dismissed from the team

[the_meanstrosity]

And it looks like Washington has been dismissed from the team

That's a tough hit for Missouri, but they have some young running backs who should be able to carry the load.