College Football -- Week 2 Thread

[Swaggs]

Some outstanding matchups this week:

West Virginia @ Marshall (just kidding -- I'm a homer)
Georgia Tech @ Kansas (Kansas isn't great, but it is still nice to see BCS conference teams play each other)
Georgia @ USCe
South Florida @ Florida
Iowa State @ 1-0 Iowa
Florida State @ Oklahoma
Michigan @ Notre Dame (seriously, I figured these two would be ranked in the top 15 after winning last week)
Miami @ Ohio State
Penn State @ Alabama
Oregon @ Tennessee
Syracuse @ Washington
Virginia @ USC
Stanford @ UCLA

I'm not sure bowl season will give us this many good interconference matchups. Several of these are/could be BCS-type games. Should be a great weekend.

[Poli]

I'm already covering my rear-end from the beating I'm going to get from Oregon.

[Poli]

As for Kansas, holy cow I didn't expect that last week. I'm hoping they'll rebound.

Bourbon's facebook page had a BYU homer post on it after the games this weekend...telling him it's not too late to jump on the bandwagon.

[Dr. Sak]

I am just hoping Penn State can keep it respectable.

[Lathum]

UW needs to lay the wood to 'Cuse.

[Matthean]

Michigan and ND both beat unranked teams. I don't see either one jumping from as low as they were to top 15 for what they did last week. One of them will be in the top 25 after this week though. It's a coin flip as to who wins.

I just don't see PSU going to 'Bama with a freshman QB and winning.

[cartman]

Sad news out of the Wyoming football program. One of their players was killed and three others injured in a car wreck yesterday.

1 Wyoming football player killed, 3 hurt in wreck - ESPN (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5540661)

[Ksyrup]

While I take issue with your definition of "outstanding," next weekend definitely has some great games. Unfortunately, I'm going to pretty much miss them all for my daughter's softball tournament. UGH.

[RendeR]

tOSU welcomes Miami into the Shoe for an assripping.

Enjoy the swirly yer about to receive hurri-queens.

[tarcone]

The Cyclowns pay a visit. The Cy-Hawk trophy is on the line. I hope we win 134-0. But Ferentz will go conservative when we get up by 21. So that wont happen.
I hate Iowa St.

[dawgfan]

UW needs to lay the wood to 'Cuse.
Well, first off they need to win period. Obviously it would be better for it to be a beat-down, but this isn't the Greg Robinson Syracuse. Washington has some issues to work out, and it may take more than 2 games to get those kinks teased out.

I'd like to think that losing to BYU has left this team seriously pissed-off and focused, but this is still a program that hasn't had a winning record since 2002 and mentally they may still be a bit fragile. If the offense can score 30+ and they win by 10 or more, I'll be pretty happy.

[the_meanstrosity]

Georgia Tech @ Kansas (Kansas isn't great, but it is still nice to see BCS conference teams play each other)


I'm just going to go ahead and suggest college football fans skip this game. Turner Gill and the KU offense are a mess right now. Gill had gone into this season preaching that KU needed to run the ball to be successful. His press conference today suggests that KU now needs to work to their strengths and pass the ball more. Color me concerned in a coach that knew his team's strengths before the season started and did not game plan accordingly.

[Passacaglia]

The Cyclowns pay a visit. The Cy-Hawk trophy is on the line. I hope we win 134-0. But Ferentz will go conservative when we get up by 21. So that wont happen.
I hate Iowa St.

I had to google it -- wow, they actually call it the Cy-Hawk trophy? It's like they didn't even try to come up with a name for it!

[tarcone]

I had to google it -- wow, they actually call it the Cy-Hawk trophy? It's like they didn't even try to come up with a name for it!

Their is a whole series. Every time we play the Suckclones, in any sport, it gets tallied up. It is the Hy-Vee Cy-Hawk series. So the trophy is named as such. :crazy:

[Swaggs]

While I take issue with your definition of "outstanding," next weekend definitely has some great games. Unfortunately, I'm going to pretty much miss them all for my daughter's softball tournament. UGH.


Seriously, you think games between FSU/Oklahoma, Miami/Ohio State, and Penn State/Alabama are your typical weekly out of conference match ups?

[JonInMiddleGA]

His press conference today suggests that KU now needs to work to their strengths and pass the ball more. Color me concerned in a coach that knew his team's strengths before the season started and did not game plan accordingly.

So lemme get this straight:
1) GT can run but has completed 4/17 passes for 24 yds and 2 INT's in their last eight quarters (going back to last season)

2) GT doesn't appear to be able to stop anyone, not even SC State, from running the ball effectively against them. Over 5 ypc over the past four games, and despite a new coordinator, the problems don't seem to have changed.

3) Kansas can't run but now thinks they need to throw, even though GT doesn't appear capable of stopping a decent HS team from running the ball.

Damn, I think you're right, this might be too ugly to watch. It has cluster fuck written all over it, although damned if I know whether the final score will be 52-49 or 6-3.

[Atocep]

West Virginia @ Marshall (just kidding -- I'm a homer)


This game actually worries me a bit. WVU has far, far better talent and coaching and if you remove all outside factors WVU wins by at least 4 TDs. However, with them having 2 coaches that were on the WVU staff last season, Doc absolutely hating WVU right now, the game being in Huntington, and their players embarrassed that they haven't won a game in the series it has the making of a dangerous game.

With that said, I don't see how Marshall moves the ball against the WVU defense. Legg's offense is all about screens, quick tosses to the sideline, and other stuff to counter blitz heavy defenses. It plays right into how Casteel calls a game.

[Swaggs]

This game actually worries me a bit. WVU has far, far better talent and coaching and if you remove all outside factors WVU wins by at least 4 TDs. However, with them having 2 coaches that were on the WVU staff last season, Doc absolutely hating WVU right now, the game being in Huntington, and their players embarrassed that they haven't won a game in the series it has the making of a dangerous game.

With that said, I don't see how Marshall moves the ball against the WVU defense. Legg's offense is all about screens, quick tosses to the sideline, and other stuff to counter blitz heavy defenses. It plays right into how Casteel calls a game.

I think Doc will have them competetive within 4 or 5 years, if they give him time. The fact that Marshall can take props that cannot get into any of the BCS conferences should allow Doc and Seider to pull in some top 50 classes. I think they have too much to iron out to give us a real good game, but I think they'll keep it close for awhile.

[Atocep]

I think Doc will have them competetive within 4 or 5 years, if they give him time. The fact that Marshall can take props that cannot get into any of the BCS conferences should allow Doc and Seider to pull in some top 50 classes. I think they have too much to iron out to give us a real good game, but I think they'll keep it close for awhile.

Honestly, I'll be shocked if he survives 3 years. He has a lot of people there that either don't want him there or aren't comfortable with a WVU guy coaching their team. He's probably working with the shortest leash of any new coach out there and doesn't have much talent. I don't think he can survive 2 years with no bowl.

I also wouldn't be surprised if CUSA ended up putting a limit on props because of Doc. He will abuse props there at every opportunity. Money is going to limit his recruiting capabilities overall though. Last year he put together a solid class rather quickly in large part because it was done on WVU's dime (don't mean that to knock his recruiting ability, but he was able to use relationships built while coaching at WVU to pull a lot of those guys in). This year he's working with far less money for recruiting than he's ever had to work with.

[Passacaglia]

Their is a whole series. Every time we play the Suckclones, in any sport, it gets tallied up. It is the Hy-Vee Cy-Hawk series. So the trophy is named as such. :crazy:

Cool, adding a sponsor's name to the trophy sounds way better.

[BigDawg]

Michigan @ Notre Dame (seriously, I figured these two would be ranked in the top 15 after winning last week)


Your kidding right??

Mich is gona get its arse handed to them this week, their what 8-16 last 2 seasons and will probibly finish 5th or 6th in the big ten this season. and if you think "shoelaces" is gona run around like Jim Thorpe again this week your sadly mistaken.

They supprised UConn but their is tape on him now, their RB's are pityful so we see just what kind of arm shoelace has.

[Ksyrup]

Seriously, you think games between FSU/Oklahoma, Miami/Ohio State, and Penn State/Alabama are your typical weekly out of conference match ups?

No, I was commenting on your inclusion of GT/KU, ISU/Iowa, Oregon/Tennessee, Syracuse/UW, and USC/UVA as "outstanding" matchups (in terms of either the general "who gives a shit?" factor or the "likely to produce a good game" factor). Interesting that you picked the truly outstanding matchups to defend yourself! :)

[Swaggs]

Michigan @ Notre Dame (seriously, I figured these two would be ranked in the top 15 after winning last week)


Your kidding right??

Mich is gona get its arse handed to them this week, their what 8-16 last 2 seasons and will probibly finish 5th or 6th in the big ten this season. and if you think "shoelaces" is gona run around like Jim Thorpe again this week your sadly mistaken.

They supprised UConn but their is tape on him now, their RB's are pityful so we see just what kind of arm shoelace has.


Yes. I am kidding.

[Swaggs]

No, I was commenting on your inclusion of GT/KU, ISU/Iowa, Oregon/Tennessee, Syracuse/UW, and USC/UVA as "outstanding" matchups (in terms of either the general "who gives a shit?" factor or the "likely to produce a good game" factor). Interesting that you picked the truly outstanding matchups to defend yourself! :)

Well, I could have re-listed the rest of the games to defend myself, but I already did that in the first post. I suppose I could have listed them, from high to low, in order of outstandingness or placed them into tiers based on their level of being outstanding, but I assumed you would realize that I was listing the headliners rather than the entire week's schedule.

Sorry if you do not "give a shit" about ten or twelve games (many of which are the type of OOC games that give us a perspective on how much strength and depth a conference has) between teams that are in the top 50ish. Personally, I find those much more interesting than watching BCS teams club subdivision, MAC, WAC, or Sun Belt teams. But, to each their own.

[Ksyrup]

It was just a throwaway comment. Sheesh.

But yeah, OOC game does not equal "outstanding." I mean, I'm sure Duke and Arizona State probably haven't played in a while, but I really wouldn't be much interested in watching that game. I'm not saying they won't turn out to be good games, but the matchups aren't particularly compelling (of the ones I listed).

[MrBug708]

Stanford is gonna roll UCLA

[TroyF]

Michigan @ Notre Dame (seriously, I figured these two would be ranked in the top 15 after winning last week)


Your kidding right??

Mich is gona get its arse handed to them this week, their what 8-16 last 2 seasons and will probibly finish 5th or 6th in the big ten this season. and if you think "shoelaces" is gona run around like Jim Thorpe again this week your sadly mistaken.

They supprised UConn but their is tape on him now, their RB's are pityful so we see just what kind of arm shoelace has.

Obviously, he was joking about top 15. Not sure it took that to figure this out.

On the other side of it, I wasn't exactly impressed with ND last week either. I thought Purdue really screwed up by not attacking the edge of the defense more. I think this game comes down to turnovers and won't be decided until middle to end of the fourth quarter.

One more quick note: It was hard not to be impressed with old shoelace last week, but I think I was more stunned by his arm than his legs. I knew he could run like the wind. 19-22 against anyone is impressive. He made good decisions with the ball, was accurate and didn't just look to run the second he dropped back. Color me impressed.

[Poli]

I'll be recording the KU/GT and Mich/ND games as well as Oregon/UT. Due to the late start, I may actually be home to watch the Oregon/UT game. If I'm not the phone gets shut off once game time hits and I will place myself in media isolation until I get home.

Last week I wanted to stab my girlfriend's cousin at a family gathering as he kept broadcasting scores to anyone within earshot. Listen, kid, I know it's Tennessee vs. Tennessee-Martin. I know the game is likely to be a 49-0 shutout. I'm sure Ole Miss and Kansas thought they had a few cupcakes in line as well. I just don't need you telling me about it.

[Noop]

Where is the Sooner Gangbang? Have they all been in hiding since they lost that bet against me?

Florida State vs. Oklahoma should be a good game hopefully we can make it competitive.

[BishopMVP]

On the other side of it, I wasn't exactly impressed with ND last week either. I thought Purdue really screwed up by not attacking the edge of the defense more. I think this game comes down to turnovers and won't be decided until middle to end of the fourth quarter.Robert Marve (Purdue QB) was getting to the edge at will on us with those designed rollouts, but I'm not sure if that was defensive breakdowns or consistent with a gameplan to keep everything short (Despite completing 70% of his passes Marve averaged 7.1 YPA). We were also twice inches away from taking a 27-3 lead midway through the 3rd Quarter (the called back Marve fumble our DE recovered for a TD and Michael Floyd's catch/fumble on a slant inside the 5 yard line). I think it's possible to make a case for either team to be ranked anywhere from about 17th to 40th right now, but they're both prominent enough that winning will jump them over teams, so I don't really care.

My slight problem with the polls is a perceived double standard with Boise/TCU, and the more common issue of voters not giving enough weight to close losses. If Boise really is the #3 team in the country (or #1 in a number of voters minds), and VT was one converted 3rd down or completion on a long bomb away from beating them, aren't they still a top 10 team? Oregon St/TCU is even worse - if you believe TCU is really a top 5 team, shouldn't Oregon St at least be ranked? If OSUw had gone to Texas, Alabama, Ohio St or Florida and lost by 9 does anyone think they wold have dropped out of the top 25 or we'd be jumping that team up over teams to #4/5?

[Ksyrup]

First, ranking ANY team until about November 1st is silly, because aside from past history and what we THINK of the players before the season, how we view the team during the season is almost entirely based on who they play and how they do. VT may end up 7-5, they may end up 11-1. Obviously, that would have quite an effect on how BSU looks now.

But above anything, losses matter. That's what the BCS proponents keep saying - every week is an elimination week - so that's what it means. You lose, you drop.

The real problem with voting now is that the voters largely box themselves in due to the indiscriminate way they drop teams and them move them up later, because by then it's all about dropping the later losers and moving up the early losers, and very little analysis goes into who they lost to, what kind of game it was, etc. It's mainly about you lost later, so you drop now and they move up.

[digamma]

So lemme get this straight:
1) GT can run but has completed 4/17 passes for 24 yds and 2 INT's in their last eight quarters (going back to last season)

2) GT doesn't appear to be able to stop anyone, not even SC State, from running the ball effectively against them. Over 5 ypc over the past four games, and despite a new coordinator, the problems don't seem to have changed.

3) Kansas can't run but now thinks they need to throw, even though GT doesn't appear capable of stopping a decent HS team from running the ball.

Damn, I think you're right, this might be too ugly to watch. It has cluster fuck written all over it, although damned if I know whether the final score will be 52-49 or 6-3.

Jon, The rushing numbers against SCSU are skewed by one 72 yard run. Obviously you can't take that out of the stat column, but I was impressed by the second half adjustments CAG made. Absent the 72 yard run, SCSU rushed for about 3.5 yards a carry and had only 64 yards in the second half. Oh, and we're talking about a 31 point victory. I realize the Georgia game from last year still sucks, but please give them a chance before you poo poo them completely.

[digamma]

AJ Green out for Saturday for UGA.

[grdawg]

AJ Green out for Saturday for UGA.

Where did you see this? According to the Macon beat writer, he said Richt said nothing knew on AJ Green as of 20 minutes ago.

[digamma]

It was on the ESPN ticker. I haven't seen it on the web yet.

[digamma]

grd,

I haven't seen it again, which may mean they pulled the story back, as the ticker typically repeats over and over and over again.

[Easy Mac]

A.J. Green's eligibility still at issue with NCAA, source says - ESPN (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5546259)

edit:

What I don't understand is this:
A person familiar with the NCAA investigation told ESPN.com that Green did not sell his jersey on eBay and received less than $1,000 for it.

Either its horrible editing, or the familiar person is an idiot.

[Ksyrup]

Yeah, either that's just an incorrect statement or written wrong, or he sold it - but not on eBay - for $1000.

[BishopMVP]

The way I read it is that Green sold it to a friend or fan for less than $1000, who then put it up on ebay and sold it for more than $1000. Still, horrible editing.

[Cuckoo]

Where is the Sooner Gangbang? Have they all been in hiding since they lost that bet against me?

Florida State vs. Oklahoma should be a good game hopefully we can make it competitive.

Can't speak for the others... But it hasn't exactly been roses for us since Bradford went down last year. Tough season, with plenty of ups and downs. There was a great deal of optimism coming into this season, based on all the experience gained last year, but a mediocre effort last week against Utah State has instilled a bit of fear in the Sooner Nation.

This week's game will tell us a lot about Oklahoma. If they lose at home to break their streak, it will signal that they are indeed not as good as many had thought/hoped. If they can get a win over a FSU team that looks much-improved, optimism will return.

[Ksyrup]

I honestly have no idea, good or bad, what FSU is going to do. All I want is anything but a non-competitive game from FSU. If they win, it would be gravy.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Jon, The rushing numbers against SCSU are skewed by one 72 yard run. Obviously you can't take that out of the stat column, but I was impressed by the second half adjustments CAG made. Absent the 72 yard run, SCSU rushed for about 3.5 yards a carry and had only 64 yards in the second half.

I guess it's just me being a nattering nabob.

It still comes down to you have to get off blocks you have to tackle people and get into the right gaps. The one thing that is scary is that you had four weeks in camp and two weeks to get ready for that opponent and this week you have three days. When kids are getting their butt whipped it is always the scheme, or they need to make an adjustment. Sometimes they just need to man up and make a play.

Oh. Wait a minute, that isn't just me. From the second sentence on, that's the take on the defense from CPJ. Georgia Tech Official Athletic Site (http://ramblinwreck.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/090710aaa.html)

Incidentally, The box score I'm looking at (http://espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=302470059) says their longest was 55 yards, not 72.

[Cuckoo]

I honestly have no idea, good or bad, what FSU is going to do. All I want is anything but a non-competitive game from FSU. If they win, it would be gravy.

I have no idea about OU either, but all of the pressure is on us. As you say, the expectations aren't really there yet for FSU, while Oklahoma is favored and had the preseason title talk from folks like Herbstreit and Phil Steele. Then, there's the home winning streak. I'm afraid that pressure is going to get to some of the young guys.

Most of the first half against Utah State looked exactly like what I expected, a 21-0 lead en route to a blowout. But the rest was filled with mistakes, blown assignments and tentativeness. It seemed like the moment they met some opposition, they tightened up. Even worse, most of the mistakes were in the secondary. If they do that against Ponder, who looks to be developing into a pretty savvy passer from what little I've seen, it could be rough.

[Ksyrup]

Ponder was great last year, it's just the D was so historically awful they didn't win enough for anyone to notice (and his peformance got lost in all the losses and then his injury).

If this game was a home game for us, there might be a little pressure. But being on the road, all they have to guard against is getting killed like Miami did a few years ago.

[digamma]

I guess it's just me being a nattering nabob.

It still comes down to you have to get off blocks you have to tackle people and get into the right gaps. The one thing that is scary is that you had four weeks in camp and two weeks to get ready for that opponent and this week you have three days. When kids are getting their butt whipped it is always the scheme, or they need to make an adjustment. Sometimes they just need to man up and make a play.

Oh. Wait a minute, that isn't just me. From the second sentence on, that's the take on the defense from CPJ. Georgia Tech Official Athletic Site (http://ramblinwreck.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/090710aaa.html)

Incidentally, The box score I'm looking at (http://espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=302470059) says their longest was 55 yards, not 72.

You are correct. I don't know where I pulled 72 from. It is still an outlier in a much better second half performance.

Keep in mind it was the first game in a new scheme. I am concerned with LB gaps, but I was mildly pleased by the NT play. In a number of cases we plugged the gap and the LB missed a tackle or overpursued. Hopefully, those things are fixable.

And you deleted the sentence from CPJ where he said it was expected for the first time out in a new scheme with guys playing new positions.

Point is, the game against SCSU doesn't mean much. We'll see over the course of the season. Not unusual for me to be more silver lining to your cloud.

[grdawg]

grd,

I haven't seen it again, which may mean they pulled the story back, as the ticker typically repeats over and over and over again.

Ah, thanks. I just wish the NCAA would make a decision one way or the other already.

[GrantDawg]

Ah, thanks. I just wish the NCAA would make a decision one way or the other already.


Local radio rumour right now is that he's playing. He gets the one game suspension (last weeks game) and that is it.

[Ksyrup]

UGA fan on another board is saying 4 game suspension.

[Ksyrup]

Official word finally came down from the NCAA Wednesday as it was announced that wide receiver A.J. Green must miss four games as a condition to become eligible to play this season.

Georgia athletic director Greg McGarity said the school will appeal the decision.

A source told UGASports today that the school is hoping to get the suspension lowered to two games. If not, Green will make his debut in three weeks against Colorado.

According facts of the case submitted by Georgia, Green sold his Independence Bowl game jersey to an individual who meets the NCAA definition of an agent.

Green has repaid the $1,000 value of benefits to a charity. According to NCAA rules, an agent is an individual who markets or promotes a student athlete.

Green released a statement through the Bulldog sports information office.

"I want to apologize to my coaches, teammates, and the Georgia fans for the mistake in judgment. I very much regret all that has taken place and the distraction that's been caused," Green said. "I've learned a valuable lesson and hope others can learn from my mistake. I can only focus my attention now on practicing and looking ahead to getting back with my teammates as quickly as possible."

Head coach Mark Richt said he was disappointed with the outcome.

"Certainly I'm disappointed with the outcome," Richt said. "However, we have games to play and that's where our focus needs to be in the coming days and weeks. Other players will have to step forward and I¹m confident they will do that." *

[GrantDawg]

Yeah, just heard that. Same old crap.

[RainMaker]

Oh NCAA, you make me laugh.

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[GrantDawg]

Oh NCAA, you make me laugh.

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Yeah, same old hypocracy. But that really doesn't matter. This is really all on A.J. There is no way he didn't know this was a violation. The rule against selling memorabilia stems from Bulldogs selling their bowl rings a few years back. He thought he could get away with something, and once he didn't say "my bad" and everything will be ok. That just doesn't work.

I think NCAA rules are stupid, but purposely violating them is not going to change them. I almost wish the university would suspend him another 2 games for being dumb.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

"I think the environment that we're going to play in Cedar Falls is going to be much more of a hostile environment than Memorial Stadium in Kansas. That was pretty docile," North Dakota State coach Craig Bohl said. "And the type of team that we're going to be playing is going to be a much more physical, aggressive football team than KU. And quite frankly I think we're going to be playing a better opponent."

-North Dakota State head coach Craig Bohl

Ouch.

http://1500espn.com/news/s46987

[digamma]

I think NCAA rules are stupid, but purposely violating them is not going to change them. I almost wish the university would suspend him another 2 games for being dumb.

I thought UGA prided itself in its remedial studies programs for athletes. ;)

[the_meanstrosity]

So lemme get this straight:
1) GT can run but has completed 4/17 passes for 24 yds and 2 INT's in their last eight quarters (going back to last season)

2) GT doesn't appear to be able to stop anyone, not even SC State, from running the ball effectively against them. Over 5 ypc over the past four games, and despite a new coordinator, the problems don't seem to have changed.

3) Kansas can't run but now thinks they need to throw, even though GT doesn't appear capable of stopping a decent HS team from running the ball.

Damn, I think you're right, this might be too ugly to watch. It has cluster fuck written all over it, although damned if I know whether the final score will be 52-49 or 6-3.

I would be mind-numbingly happy at this point if Kansas were to stay within three points of Georgia Tech (52-49 or 6-3). I don't see it happening unless all of a sudden the offensive line and coaching staff finally figure things out.

[MrBug708]

I heard they were all up and getting something to drink

[the_meanstrosity]

Ouch.

In the FCS Huddle: Coaches at dropped programs regroup | 1500 ESPN Twin Cities | Radio home of the Minnesota Twins (http://1500espn.com/news/s46987)

I'm not surprised and I definitely won't argue it. Kansas football fans aren't anywhere near as rabid as the basketball fans. And Turner Gill definitely didn't give those fans much to cheer about this past Saturday.

[Swaggs]

Wonder where A.J. Green came up with $1K to repay the charity?

[JonInMiddleGA]

re: AJ Green -- As long as you want to maintain a separation between players & agents, a rule like this one seems like a necessity. Remember, the penalty is specifically related to the fact that the jersey was sold "to an unnamed individual who met the definition of an agent as defined by the NCAA. By NCAA definition, an agent is any individual who markets or promotes a student-athlete"

Also worth noting here, "In addition to the current suspension, Green has also been linked to agent scandal that is sweeping college football — one that has affected players at the universities of Alabama, North Carolina and South Carolina. There is still no ruling passed down from the NCAA as to Green’s involvement in the matter."

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

I heard they were all up and getting something to drink

They should have been starting a fight with the basketball team. That's the only chance they have of beating anyone this year.

[the_meanstrosity]

I heard they were all up and getting something to drink

I do not know how I missed this gem earlier when responding. Very nice Bug. :banana:

[the_meanstrosity]

They should have been starting a fight with the basketball team. That's the only chance they have of beating anyone this year.

Kansas players could always pull a Derrick Washington and give some unsuspecting tutor the Stinky Pinkel. Then MBBF could come on here and claim she was asking for it.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Kansas players could always pull a Derrick Washington and give some unsuspecting tutor the Stinky Pinkel. Then MBBF could come on here and claim she was asking for it.

You stay classy.

[the_meanstrosity]

You stay classy.

:)

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan
I'm not about to try to defend anyone if something criminal did happen, but this is more than a bit iffy given what's come out. No charges after nearly three months and the accuser has missed court dates on more than one occasion. You would think the accuser would be a bit more motivated to make sure things are rectified if something really happened.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

:)

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan
I'm not about to try to defend anyone if something criminal did happen, but this is more than a bit iffy given what's come out. No charges after nearly three months and the accuser has missed court dates on more than one occasion. You would think the accuser would be a bit more motivated to make sure things are rectified if something really happened.

Exactly. Something criminal apparantly did happen and he's no longer a part of the program and I'm not about to defend him. You're really reaching, but I can certainly understand your interest in not talking about football in this thread. October 15th can't come soon enough.

[tarcone]

Poor Turner Gill.

On a side note. The starting QB for Kansas this week played HS ball about 20 minutes from where I live. And his HS is in our conference. He was a spread QB in HS.

[the_meanstrosity]

Exactly. Something criminal apparantly did happen and he's no longer a part of the program and I'm not about to defend him. You're really reaching, but I can certainly understand your interest in not talking about football in this thread. October 15th can't come soon enough.

Didn't you start this by taking a shot at Kansas? So am I reaching or are you?


They should have been starting a fight with the basketball team. That's the only chance they have of beating anyone this year.


And I think I've shown that I'm most certainly capable of talking about football in this thread even after a loss. Unlike a certain Tiger fan, I won't make excuses when my team or fans just flat out aren't very good.

Glad to see you're not defending Washington after he was charged. Before he was charged though...well I think we know what you tried to do. Nice try though.

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan
I'm not about to try to defend anyone if something criminal did happen, but this is more than a bit iffy given what's come out. No charges after nearly three months and the accuser has missed court dates on more than one occasion. You would think the accuser would be a bit more motivated to make sure things are rectified if something really happened.

[the_meanstrosity]

Poor Turner Gill.

On a side note. The starting QB for Kansas this week played HS ball about 20 minutes from where I live. And his HS is in our conference. He was a spread QB in HS.

I wouldn't feel sorry for Turner Gill. He's scaring me right now with his back and forth decisions regarding the team and offense. I still believe Gill has a great future as a head coach in a BCS conference, but I'm afraid he's going to take some serious lumps learning the business.

Now you should feel sorry for QB Jordan Webb. I have a feeling he's going to be running for his life this Saturday against Georgia Tech. The Kansas offensive line is just not very good right now. Webb would have been perfect in Mangino's spread offense. I'm not so certain he fits the Turner Gill offense though. But he's definitely got an arm and he can make things happen if he gets time.

[Poli]

Poor Turner Gill.

On a side note. The starting QB for Kansas this week played HS ball about 20 minutes from where I live. And his HS is in our conference. He was a spread QB in HS.
Minor correction: He was a Texas Tech Spread quarterback in HS. Kid threw it a ton. I've got one of his HS games on DVD around here somewhere. Their offense mirrored Texas Tech...their running game was their screen game. They didn't do any zone read type stuff at all.

[tarcone]

Minor correction: He was a Texas Tech Spread quarterback in HS. Kid threw it a ton. I've got one of his HS games on DVD around here somewhere. Their offense mirrored Texas Tech...their running game was their screen game. They didn't do any zone read type stuff at all.

Correct. They threw the ball all over the place.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Long story short,the AJ Green jersey was bought by a former UNC player, Chris Hawkins, who is apparently part of the investigation in Chapel Hill. According to an espn.com report "a source said Hawkins contacted several sports agents about their interest in representing North Carolina players in the NFL draft."

Report: Former UNC player, considered agent by NCAA, bought Green’s jersey | UGA sports blog (http://blogs.ajc.com/uga-sports-blog/2010/09/09/report-former-unc-player-considered-agent-by-ncaa-bought-greens-jersey/?cxntfid=blogs_uga_sports_blog&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Unlike a certain Tiger fan, I won't make excuses when my team or fans just flat out aren't very good.

Can't disagree. It's certainly a blessing for Tiger fans to have programs we can be proud of in both major sports. Excuses aren't needed in Columbia.

[Lathum]

Wow, 96 yard TD pass for Marshall.

[CleBrownsfan]

My 1st bet of the seson is not looking to good... WV looks very stale

[Lathum]

Wow, give up a 96 yard TD pass then on the next possession take 2 personal fouls, and counting.

[Swaggs]

I am not enjoying this, at all. :(

[cartman]

Can't disagree. It's certainly a blessing for Tiger fans to have programs we can be proud of in both major sports. Excuses aren't needed in Columbia.

Illusory superiority - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusory_superiority)

[tarcone]

WE ARE




MARSHALL

[SirFozzie]

oh wow...

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Illusory superiority - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusory_superiority)

I clicked on it. Just kept ending up at Orangebloods.com.

[the_meanstrosity]

Can't disagree. It's certainly a blessing for Tiger fans to have programs we can be proud of in both major sports. Excuses aren't needed in Columbia.

You sure have a lot of excuses for being proud of both major sports.

[Chief Rum]

Illusory superiority - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusory_superiority)

That's stupid. I could totally come up with a better theory than that.

[Galaxy]

WTF WV.

[mauchow]

This pretty much confirms it: the Big East is horrible this year. Take away their bid to the BCS starting tonight.

[Lathum]

This pretty much confirms it: the Big East is horrible this year. Take away their bid to the BCS starting tonight.

Guess we should take away the SECs as well since Mississippi lost to Jax st, and why we are at it dump the Big 12 since KU lost...

[Wolfpack]

Long story short,the AJ Green jersey was bought by a former UNC player, Chris Hawkins, who is apparently part of the investigation in Chapel Hill. According to an espn.com report "a source said Hawkins contacted several sports agents about their interest in representing North Carolina players in the NFL draft."

Report: Former UNC player, considered agent by NCAA, bought Green’s jersey | UGA sports blog (http://blogs.ajc.com/uga-sports-blog/2010/09/09/report-former-unc-player-considered-agent-by-ncaa-bought-greens-jersey/?cxntfid=blogs_uga_sports_blog&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)

To think this whole mess started because of a tweet.

Hm...

For posting a tweet, players were lost
For want of players, a team's depth was lost
For want of depth, a winning season was lost
For want of a winning season, many jobs were lost
All for posting a tweet.

:D

[mauchow]

Guess we should take away the SECs as well since Mississippi lost to Jax st, and why we are at it dump the Big 12 since KU lost...

Yes, because Kansas isn't supposed to be a bottom feeder this year...

This isn't just based on tonight's game..

Utah beat Pitt.
Cinci lost to Fresno St
Marshall (who lost by 40+ last week) is going to beat WVU.

Maybe I'm being a little harsh this early in the season and just jumping the gun way too soon; but the Big East sure isn't looking good early on.

[SirFozzie]

that took guts

[Eaglesfan27]

Wow. Heck of a comeback so far.

[wade moore]

I just turned on the game right before WVU scored their last TD.

I've not seen this Smith kid before tonight - he has impressed me big time on this drive.

[CleBrownsfan]

wow - my bet is still alive ;)

I got my bet in late (Bodog) so I have WV - 6.5 when Marshall was up...

[mauchow]

Nice. I just tuned in as well, couldn't watch the game as my wife wanted to watch Valentines Day.........

[Galaxy]

What a game.

[Lathum]

Yes, because Kansas isn't supposed to be a bottom feeder this year...

This isn't just based on tonight's game..

Utah beat Pitt.
Cinci lost to Fresno St
Marshall (who lost by 40+ last week) is going to beat WVU.

Maybe I'm being a little harsh this early in the season and just jumping the gun way too soon; but the Big East sure isn't looking good early on.

All on the road to above average D1 schools ( not counting Marshall) while schools from other conferences schedule patsies at least the Big East is willing to play road games.

[mauchow]

All on the road to above average D1 schools ( not counting Marshall) while schools from other conferences schedule patsies at least the Big East is willing to play road games.

Will give 'em that.

[Swaggs]

Yes, because Kansas isn't supposed to be a bottom feeder this year...

This isn't just based on tonight's game..

Utah beat Pitt.
Cinci lost to Fresno St
Marshall (who lost by 40+ last week) is going to beat WVU.

Maybe I'm being a little harsh this early in the season and just jumping the gun way too soon; but the Big East sure isn't looking good early on.

Let me quote this snippet from the PPG's writer for those that are down on the Big East (which are mostly Big East fans):

** Now, let’s see if we can do the same kind of lazy and over-the-top knee-jerk analysis that has been going on across the country with pundits and talking heads over the past three days.

Ready, OK, let’s go……

There were two Big Ten teams – Illinois and Purdue – who went on the road this past weekend to play against quality teams and they lost, hence the Big Ten stinks. Actually it is worse than that because Illinois lost on a neutral site!! And we're sorry but wins at Middle Tennessee St., UNLV (where they haven’t had a winning season since 2000) and Vanderbilt don’t count as quality road wins.

The SEC didn’t have any teams go on the road against quality opponents this past weekend and considering North Carolina (a North Carolina team who apparently doesn’t count as a good team anyway) had 90 guys suspended, LSU’s win on a semi-neutral field against the Tar Heels felt like a loss since they needed a late stand just to hold on and win. In addition two SEC teams – Vanderbilt and Mississippi -- actually lost at home to bad teams, so that’s even worse than the Big Ten, hence the SEC really stinks.

The ACC had only North Carolina and Virginia Tech play tough games away from home -- on neutral fields no less -- and both lost, so the ACC must really stink, too!!

And the Pac-10, what an absolute joke of a conference that is – look at it, UCLA, Washington, Washington State all went on the road to play quality competition and lost and Oregon State lost on a semi-neutral field!!! Good thing USC saved a little face for the conference by winning at Hawaii but hell, that doesn’t really count since the Trojans gave up 36 points!

All right, are we done with this silly exercise yet?

[Galaxy]

Curry is quite a force.

[Swaggs]

And, as much as it pains me to say, it seems pretty stupid that Pitt starts the season at #15, actually goes on the road to play a quality opponent (Utah, who is apparently good enough to be #20 now), and loses in OT and they drop all the way out of the rankings.

If they had played cupcakes for two or three weeks, they probably would have been in the top 10 or 12 and then the same loss would have dropped them a few spots.

More of a rant on the pollsters than anything. If you think a team is good enough to be #15 at the beginning of the year, a close road loss to a good team shouldn't drop them below a bunch of teams that had varying levels of success over cupcakes.

[Swaggs]

Can't believe Marshall decided to do the 3 man rush garbage, after applying pressure all game, to let this get to OT. They deserve to lose just for doing what never works for anyone.

Whoever invented the prevent defense should be in the Hall of Fame. :)

[CleBrownsfan]

Shucks...

[cartman]

tough loss for Marshall.

[RainMaker]

Tough to feel sorry for Marshall. They had that game and gave it away.

[cartman]

That's stupid. I could totally come up with a better theory than that.

But you have to admit, MBBF is a poster boy for their theory.

[Lathum]

Will give 'em that.

Sorry, grew up a Rutgers fan and graduated from U of Washington. My 2 conferences go no love ( beyond USC)

[timmynausea]

WVU just ripped Marshall's heart out like the bad guy in the Temple of Doom.

[bhlloy]

Ugh. When will defensive co-ordinators learn you can't hold onto a lead by playing passive like that

[Bigsmooth]

Now this is exciting football. Houston's offense is sweet.

[Swaggs]

Well, not pretty but I'll take it after the way we played for most of the game. The positive I would take away is that Geno Smith looked really poised under a lot of pass rush (I dunno if Marshall has a great pass rush or we have a terrible line or both) and pretty smooth running the two-minute offense. Hopefully, he stays healthy and continues to improve. If so, he should be pretty special in the next few years.

It is kind of cool also because two of his HS teammates (#10 Stedman Bailey, FR and #5 Ivan McCartney, FR) are also on the team (they are all out of Florida and were coached by a former WVU linebacker named Damon Codgell).

[Bigsmooth]

WVU just ripped Marshall's heart out like the bad guy in the Temple of Doom.

....or like Swayze in Road House.

[Swaggs]

The rough thing is that Marshall could have tacked on a FG midway through the 4th, but a freshman RB fumbled it away trying to get an extra yard.

I'd feel worse for them, but since Doc Holliday acted like such a d-bag on the way out, I don't really want him to do well and work his way up.

[Atocep]

I said that game scared me. Going into this game I would have taken a win no matter how ugly it looked. I'm happy, but it's going to take a couple hours for my heart to settle down.

This was Marshall's best chance at a win before the series is set to end. Doc Holliday got exactly what he deserved. He gave that game away.

[Atocep]

Yes, because Kansas isn't supposed to be a bottom feeder this year...

This isn't just based on tonight's game..

Utah beat Pitt.
Cinci lost to Fresno St
Marshall (who lost by 40+ last week) is going to beat WVU.

Maybe I'm being a little harsh this early in the season and just jumping the gun way too soon; but the Big East sure isn't looking good early on.

Sagarin's ratings have the Big 10 below the Big East since Miami, VT, and BC left. Since that's based on a 5 year period maybe the Big 10 should lose it's bid?

I'm not going to defend the Big East this year. It's looking like a down year, but it's ridiculous to talk about taking away the BCS bid based on 1 bad start to the season.

[timmynausea]

(I dunno if Marshall has a great pass rush or we have a terrible line or both)

Sure seems like we have a terrible line to me.

[Atocep]

Sure seems like we have a terrible line to me.

The right side is abysmal. The left side ranges from damn good to ok on any given play.

[Swaggs]

Sure seems like we have a terrible line to me.

Three years and counting?

Geno sure had some nice footwork in what little of a pocket he had, though.

[JeeberDMack]

God, we're awful...

[Chief Rum]

But you have to admit, MBBF is a poster boy for their theory.

While that is doubtless true, my post was intended to be with tongue firmly implanted in cheek. ;)

[GrantDawg]

I think S Carolina's fans might be up for this game.

[sterlingice]

Ok, let's try this thing again this week and pretend last week's KU game didn't happen.

Good news: probably the only game I'll get to see on tv this year in Indy for KU

SI

[GrantDawg]

Dawg defense looks very very soft. If they don't man-up and learn to tackle, this is going to be an ugly season.

[JonInMiddleGA]

7-0 Gamecocks.
7-0 Jackets.

[sterlingice]

Hooray! We scored points!

SI

[JonInMiddleGA]

Nothing makes an offense look any better than facing the GT defense.
Tied at 7.

[GrantDawg]

Murray converts a couple of 3rd downs thanks to an OL giving him lots of time. Still have to settle for a FG. 7-3.

[sterlingice]

I hope that's true, JIMGA. After scoring 3 against North Dakota State last week, losing 40-21 would be refreshing ;)

SI

[GrantDawg]

I really do think it is easier going from a 3-4 to a 4-3 than vis-versa. Georgia defense seems to never be in position, and every tackle seems to be one-on-one. It took a fumbled snap to actually stop the Gamecock offense.

[GrantDawg]

GT-KU, UGA-Cocks, Duke-WF. Hard to figure out what to watch so far. All three are entertaining.

If I were the President/AD of a major conference program in need of a turnaround, I would break the bank to bring in David Cutcliffe.


This seemed to happen more last year than in previous seasons, and here we are again. Why does UGA and the GT games have to be at the same time? Fustrating.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Why does UGA and the GT games have to be at the same time?

It's what happens when neither are playing in primetime (or in UGA's case, the CBS 330 game).

edit to add: That probably sounded like a really obvious and/or smartass answer. What I was getting at was that GT has progressed enough to at least get on TV, while UGA has regressed enough in the pecking order to no longer get as many premium timeslots.

[RedKingGold]

Early upset alert: Florida is really struggling against USF and is down 7-0 at the end of the 1st.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Early upset alert: Florida is really struggling against USF and is down 7-0 at the end of the 1st.

The shocking thing to me was to see how that happened. USF went 96 yards in a drive that lasted 10 minutes.

[JonInMiddleGA]

GT manages to tie things up at 14

[GrantDawg]

It's what happens when neither are playing in primetime (or in UGA's case, the CBS 330 game).


Which is weird for this game. The Gamecock game most of the time is either the 3:30 or like 8:30 game.

A warning to the SEC: This Lattimore kid looks like a bruiser. Good enough to make the Visored-one run twice as often as pass so far.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Which is weird for this game. The Gamecock game most of the time is either the 3:30 or like 8:30 game.

Screwed over by US Open coverage.

[GrantDawg]

Screwed over by US Open coverage.


There you go.

[RedKingGold]

The shocking thing to me was to see how that happened. USF went 96 yards in a drive that lasted 10 minutes.

While all the concern has been over Florida's offense post-Tebow, right now, it's the defense that doesn't look up to SEC-snuff.

[GrantDawg]

I'm also not finding anything, and the announcers on this game suck: Why is Caleb King not playing? Anyone hear?

[JonInMiddleGA]

I'm also not finding anything, and the announcers on this game suck: Why is Caleb King not playing? Anyone hear?

From the Athens Banner-Herald gameday blogger Caleb King's ankle injury apparently keeping him sidelined at least for now.

[JonInMiddleGA]

For GrantDawg
http://twitter.com/onlineathens/lists/dogbytes

[RainMaker]

Couple Big 10 teams struggling with FCS schools. Purdue just took a 14-7 lead going into the half against Western Illinois. And South Dakota is sort of dominating Minnesota 21-10. I also have a sneaky feeling that Southern Illinois is going to give Illinois fits tonight.

The bottom of the Big 10 is really bad.

[GrantDawg]

For GrantDawg
http://twitter.com/onlineathens/lists/dogbytes


Thanks.

[JonInMiddleGA]

17-14 GT with about 30 secs left in the half.

edit: SC leads UGA 14-3 at the half.

[Dr. Sak]

Florida looks really sloppy

[sterlingice]

Gotta say I'm pretty happy with KU's first half. They have to play better in the 2nd half to actually win the game, but I was in full-on panic mode after last week

SI

[Dr. Sak]

Gotta say I'm pretty happy with KU's first half. They have to play better in the 2nd half to actually win the game, but I was in full-on panic mode after last week

SI

Teams make their biggest improvements between week 1 and week 2. Thats why I don't panic till after seeing 2 games.

[TroyF]

While all the concern has been over Florida's offense post-Tebow, right now, it's the defense that doesn't look up to SEC-snuff.

Not sure you can really say that. Yeah, the defense hasn't been as dominant as last year, but last week they gave up 4 yards rushing, forced 4 turnovers and gave up what amounted to 6 points. (the offense gave up the other six) Today they gave up that really long drive and then nothing else. They also had an INT to set up the TD that tied the game.

I think it's clearly the offense that isn't up to SEC standards now and if it doesn't get fixed, Florida is going to have a LONG year in conference.

[RainMaker]

Didn't Florida have a huge Pick 6 last week too?

[DeToxRox]

Wow. Duke and Wake are tied at 35 with 40 seconds left in the first half.

[sovereignstar]

And South Dakota is sort of dominating Minnesota 21-10.

Bring on USC. lol

[Matthean]

I simply don't get so many people assuming Florida was some kind of a top 4 team with Tebow gone. I pretty much pencil in at least one extra loss the team shouldn't have had when a new QB is starting.

Where is a good site to watch games online that you can't normally get? I don't have cable, but for some reason I don't get NBC. I get four channels of PBS and the CW, but not a single one of my NBC channels come in. Trying to decide if I want to watch it online in the comfort of my own home, or go to a sports bar.

[RainMaker]

South Dakota up 28-10 on Minnesota now. Amazing.

South Dakota is new to FCS too, just moved up from D2 a couple years ago.

[sovereignstar]

No more talking about the Gophers and South Dakota! k thx bye

[kingfc22]

That was a scary hit in the Wisconsin/San Jose State game.

Punt returner had to be taken out in an ambulance.

[Lathum]

I simply don't get so many people assuming Florida was some kind of a top 4 team with Tebow gone. I pretty much pencil in at least one extra loss the team shouldn't have had when a new QB is starting.

Where is a good site to watch games online that you can't normally get? I don't have cable, but for some reason I don't get NBC. I get four channels of PBS and the CW, but not a single one of my NBC channels come in. Trying to decide if I want to watch it online in the comfort of my own home, or go to a sports bar.

ESPN3 is really sweet, if for some reason you dont get that try channelsurfing.net

[Matthean]

The good news for the Big Ten is that Nebraska is doing well. :lol:

[Matthean]

ESPN3 is really sweet, if for some reason you dont get that try channelsurfing.net

Well Michigan vs. ND won't be on ESPN3. I'll look at the other site. I'm sure I had it bookmarked, but my tower died and I went and got a new one.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Bad hop punt turns into a 13 yarder for GT, Kansas starts at the GT 28

[sterlingice]

Bad hop punt turns into a 13 yarder for GT, Kansas starts at the GT 28

And takes the lead back :) 21-17 KU!

SI

[JonInMiddleGA]

TD Kansas, made it look easy. GT's defense couldn't stop a mf'ing HS team. A complete GD embarassment.

It ain't the DC, it ain't the scheme, it's f'n players who look like they've never played defense in their f'n lives.

[sterlingice]

Teams make their biggest improvements between week 1 and week 2. Thats why I don't panic till after seeing 2 games.

Yeah, but 6-3 to North Dakota State...

SI

[JonInMiddleGA]

SC defense stiffens at their 15, holds UGAg to a FG. Now 14-6 Poultry middle Q3

[wade moore]

GO FCS! ;)

[sterlingice]

Going for it on 4th and 7 at the 28? Is the Ga Tech kicker that bad?

SI

[JonInMiddleGA]

CPJ has lost his f'n mind. Throwing on 4th & 7? With Nesbitt?

[JonInMiddleGA]

Going for it on 4th and 7 at the 28? Is the Ga Tech kicker that bad?SI

Nah, that's just how they roll.

[JonInMiddleGA]

SC fumbles it away inside the UGA 30.

[Big Fo]

SC fumbles it away inside the UGA 30.

And UGA connects on a long pass to the USC 10 just after. The momentum has shifted (unfortunately).

[larrymcg421]

GT stopped Kansas, but then ran right into the punter. Kansas 1st down at midfield.

[Big Fo]

And now UGA fumbles at the three yard line, damn. Gamecocks recover.

[BishopMVP]

Jeffrey Demps pulls another long one (62 yards) to give UF the 14-7 lead.

S.Dakota St still up 10 on Minn entering the 4th and JMU back within 3 (10-7) vs. Virginia Tech late 2nd quarter.

[Lathum]

Wow Georgia Tech, that was maybe the worst tackling I have ever seen.

[sterlingice]

And after a really stupid roughing the passer on Ga Tech, KU gets new life and puts it in, going up 28-17 (and stupidly takes a celebration penalty so Tech will get good field position)

SI

[Radii]

these stupid penalties are killing me

[BishopMVP]

Agreed that Lattimore looks good for S.Carolina. Georgia's fans were worried about the O-Line, but it seems to have held up pretty well from what I've seen, at least in pass protection. Still only 6 points though - they really miss AJ Green getting open downfield.

[sovereignstar]

S.Dakota St still up 10 on Minn entering the 4th

Not State, who are the #9 I-AA team in the country. Just plain ol' South Dakota, which is unranked. :redface:

[sterlingice]

OK, that was Madden comical. The 4th and 7 at the 27 kindof made sense if you squinted hard enough. But 4th and 5 at midfield?

SI

[sterlingice]

Turner Gill giving GTech a chance to gain back momentum going for it on 4th and inches at the 45

SI

[JonInMiddleGA]

OK, that was Madden comical. The 4th and 7 at the 27 kindof made sense if you squinted hard enough. But 4th and 5 at midfield?

Again, not really surprising once you've seen them play. They average just over 2 tries on 4th down per game in the CPJ era & they frequently aren't 4th & very short nor in the in-between punt/FG territory.

[sterlingice]

Holy crap!

SI

[Swaggs]

That's it. No conference deserves a BCS bid. ;)

[sterlingice]

Kansas gives back the momentum, getting stopped on 4th and inches but then a huge hit on the ensuing play results in a fumble and KU gets it right back

SI

[BishopMVP]

Florida turning it on, with another rushing TD and a pick-6. 28-7 now, late 3rd.

USF QB BJ Daniels? 4-18 33 yds 1td 3int (does have 100 rushing yds) - I think the defense is okay though.

[GrantDawg]

UGA is showing GT that they are better at not tackling.

[JonInMiddleGA]

UGA is showing GT that they are better at not tackling.

Difference being that Lattimore looks like a legit RB.

[DeToxRox]

No confidence in this UM/ND game. I say ND 38-28. Book it.

[General Mike]

Minnesota football makes me chuckle

[GrantDawg]

Difference being that Lattimore looks like a legit RB.


Maybe. We will know more when he actually faces a defense that isn't constantly trying to arm-tackle him.

[JonInMiddleGA]

GT miraculously gets a TD pass on their version of the chuck-and-duck (Nesbitt chucks it,everybody within 20 yards of the field ducks)

[sterlingice]

And now Tech is right back in the game after getting the 2 point conversion, 28-25 KU; 7-something to go

SI

[sovereignstar]

Minnesota football makes me chuckle

How the fuck can a Rutgers fan chuckle at anything?

[k0ruptr]

Hawaii Choking big time, was up 21-0 now tied 28-28 Army with the ball and on Hawaii's 35 yard line with 3 mins left.

[JonInMiddleGA]

72 seconds left, SC leads 17-6.

[General Mike]

How the fuck can a Rutgers fan chuckle at anything?

4 straight bowl wins. That's how.

[Noop]

Minnesota football makes me chuckle

Ohhhhhhh

How the fuck can a Rutgers fan chuckle at anything?
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

4 straight bowl wins. That's how.

Ouch

:popcorn:

[JonInMiddleGA]

Heh, from the AJC blog
Tech's gotta know you can't just waltz into hallowed Memorial Stadium and expect to beat Turner Gil's Jayhawks

[mauchow]

Well, the Badgers looked horrible again for the second straight week offensively. Huge mistakes within the ten yard line multiple times kills them again; like last week. Hopefully they can turn it around for a better team in ASU. They weren't playing some key players today but still, it should have been 28-0 after 20 minutes but instead it was barely 14-0.

[JonInMiddleGA]

4 straight bowl wins. That's how.

St. Petersburg ... Papajohns.com ... Internationa ...Texas

If Rutgers ever wins a major bowl game, like the Poulan Weedeater, you're going to be unbearable.

[Lathum]

Well, the Badgers looked horrible again for the second straight week offensively. Huge mistakes within the ten yard line multiple times kills them again; like last week. Hopefully they can turn it around for a better team in ASU. They weren't playing some key players today but still, it should have been 28-0 after 20 minutes but instead it was barely 14-0.

Take away the Big 10 BCS bid...;)

[JonInMiddleGA]

Talk about brain cramp ... KU special teams just annihliated the GT punt returner with the ball three seconds away from arriving. Damn.

[Izulde]

I now officially hate the Mtn. I want to watch the UNLV @ Utah game, but it's only on the Mtn and I don't have cable. It's also not on channelsurfing.net :(

[sovereignstar]

4 straight bowl wins. That's how.

That's right. I had a choice of watching the New Mexico Bowl or the St. Petersburg bowl last December 19th. I chose the former.

[GrantDawg]

How many QB's hit defensive players hard enough to knock them out of the game?

[JonInMiddleGA]

KU is trying to self-destruct. GT airs one out on 3rd & 1, overthrows the WR but Kansas gets an obvious PI call.

[sovereignstar]

*hides for the rest of the college football season*

[JonInMiddleGA]

A fumble by GT (recovered) and then a false start, 3rd & short is now 4th & 8

[General Mike]

That's right. I had a choice of watching the New Mexico Bowl or the St. Petersburg bowl last December 19th. I chose the former.

That's nice. :popcorn:

[RainMaker]

It's D1, everyone makes a bowl game.

[sterlingice]

WOO! :)

SI

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Geez. GT loses to the laughing stock of the Big 12.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Nesbitt does that voodoo that he do so well, missing a receiver.

An utter disaster of a game, a loss so Godawful that I can't even enjoy the UGAg loss to SC.

This team will be lucky to be bowl eligible at the end of the year. ACC? They couldn't win a f'n region title in HS Class AAA.

[Young Drachma]

Congrats to South Dakota.

[k0ruptr]

HOLY SHIT! What an end to the Hawaii game! Tie game @ 28-28 ,Army has the ball with 25 seconds left at the hawaii 30. and runs one last play to get the ball at the middle of the field for the game winning FG. FUMBLE!!! wait ref calls him down... Review. FUMBLE!! wooo, over time! or wait. 24 seconds left. Pass - first down. LATE hit. 45 yards 15 seconds. 30 yard pass!! 10 seconds, FG HAWAII!!! WINNAHHHHH 31 -28!!! WOOOOOOO

[sterlingice]

We got lucky and escaped, considering the sloppy 4th quarter. But, man, that was not what I expected to see today :)

SI

[JonInMiddleGA]

Fuck you Turner Gill, you play to the f'n gun. I know it's been a long time since you've won one but act like you've seen a damned game before.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

LOL.....did KU fans seriously just storm the field?

[sterlingice]

Geez. GT loses to the laughing stock of the Big 12.

Bookmarked for later

SI

[sterlingice]

LOL.....did KU fans seriously just storm the field?

Good to see you woke up just in time for that McNeese State game today, sunshine

SI

[JonInMiddleGA]

Bookmarked for later

I wouldn't be particularly confident after this one if I were KU.

The only thing I was impressed by all day was the LB'er that had the big first half. Otherwise, you just beat a team who performed horribly, which is to say, about to their level of ability, in most facets of the game.

I'm really happy that GT can run the ball so well, I find that part of the offense entertaining as hell to watch. Pity we can't really do anything else with even average competence.

[GrantDawg]

You know, this is some really good games for the second week of the season. Okies versus F$U? Nice.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Bookmarked for later

SI

I hear South Dakota is going to be 2nd in the BCS standings after KU's win.

[GrantDawg]

I wouldn't be particularly confident after this one if I were KU.

The only thing I was impressed by all day was the LB'er that had the big first half. Otherwise, you just beat a team who performed horribly, which is to say, about to their level of ability, in most facets of the game.

I'm really happy that GT can run the ball so well, I find that part of the offense entertaining as hell to watch. Pity we can't really do anything else with even average competence.


And you know, it shouldn't be that way. Nesbit was recruited as a pocket passer. What the heck happened to his ability to throw?

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

I can only imagine how frightening Tom Hammonds looks without makeup. Eeek.

[Swaggs]

I still hate looking at Rich Rod's smug face.

It feels dirty to root for Notre Dame, but I don't want to hear about Michigan and see Dick Rod doing media appearances for another week.

[sterlingice]

JIMGA, I'm not excited for the Big XII season- this is going to be a big rebuilding season and we're probably looking at 4 or 5 wins at most. We just lost too many seniors and talent after last year.

That said, KU will show up for the Mizzou game, even if they are badly outmanned. Then again, the fat man seemed to have Pinkel's number a way I doubt Gill will (just because Mangino was so good against Mizzou compared to the talent they had).

SI

[DeToxRox]

Poor Boise. VT is just up 16-14 on James Madison late in the 3rd.

[Swaggs]

I can only imagine how frightening Tom Hammonds looks without makeup. Eeek.

Tom Hammonds was not built for HD. :)

They need to show him from about 45-feet away or not show them at all.

[DeToxRox]

I still hate looking at Rich Rod's smug face.

It feels dirty to root for Notre Dame, but I don't want to hear about Michigan and see Dick Rod doing media appearances for another week.

You'll get your wish. I hate playing in South Bend.

/sandbag

[JonInMiddleGA]

And you know, it shouldn't be that way. Nesbit was recruited as a pocket passer. What the heck happened to his ability to throw?

Beats the hell out of me, the last athlete who lost their ability to throw so completely had to be either Steve Sax or maybe Mackey Sasser. I remember Nesbitt in HS, playing a couple of towns over in Greene County. Could hit a receiver 80 yards downfield in stride, one of the strongest arms I've ever heard of much less seen, and he wasn't inaccurate when he threw that I can recall.

It's as though he spent so much time learning the offense that he lost all knowledge of passing, kind of like when Sponge Bob had to become a waiter.

[RendeR]

BUCKEYES< LETS ROLL!!!!

[GrantDawg]

Beats the hell out of me, the last athlete who lost their ability to throw so completely had to be either Steve Sax or maybe Mackey Sasser. I remember Nesbitt in HS, playing a couple of towns over in Greene County. Could hit a receiver 80 yards downfield in stride, one of the strongest arms I've ever heard of much less seen, and he wasn't inaccurate when he threw that I can recall.

It's as though he spent so much time learning the offense that he lost all knowledge of passing, kind of like when Sponge Bob had to become a waiter.


Two thumbs up for the Steve Sax reference. :D

[sterlingice]

Beats the hell out of me, the last athlete who lost their ability to throw so completely had to be either Steve Sax or maybe Mackey Sasser. I remember Nesbitt in HS, playing a couple of towns over in Greene County. Could hit a receiver 80 yards downfield in stride, one of the strongest arms I've ever heard of much less seen, and he wasn't inaccurate when he threw that I can recall.

It's as though he spent so much time learning the offense that he lost all knowledge of passing, kind of like when Sponge Bob had to become a waiter.

So, uh, what *was* Sponge Bob's expertise before he was a waiter? ;)

SI

[DeToxRox]

Michael Floyd is going to get 200 yards today. I can just sense it.

[k0ruptr]

JMU beating VT

[k0ruptr]

Poor boise. that really crushes them

[Swaggs]

So, uh, what *was* Sponge Bob's expertise before he was a waiter? ;)

SI

Isn't he a fry cook? :)

[k0ruptr]

JMU stops VT on 4th down at the JMU 18 just now also.

[RedKingGold]

I love reading all the pure hate which pours out of FOFC's College Football threads.

Gives me a taste of what I'm missing by skipping over the political threads.

[Swaggs]

I wonder if Wade Moore will go streaking around the neighborhood if JMU beats VPI. :)

[Big Fo]

Fuck WSAV. For the last 20 minutes there has been a picture with a guy in a suit stuck on the screen instead of UM-ND. We've called neighbors and some local bars and it's the same thing all over town. What a joke.

[Swaggs]

Does anyone else get annoyed by ESPN.com highlighting random games (that they deem important) on their scoreboard at the top of the site? I liked it at first, when I'd look and maybe notice someone was pitching a no-hitter or that there was a big upset brewing, but they did it for like every game the Yankees played before A-Rod hit his 600 HR and then did it for every Strasburg start. Now I see that they have Michigan-ND highlighted.

[RendeR]

Wow that was a shit call on Posey.

[Swaggs]

Fuck WSAV. For the last 20 minutes there has been a picture with a guy in a suit stuck on the screen instead of UM-ND. We've called neighbors and some local bars and it's the same thing all over town. What a joke.

If you are watching HD, you could maybe try switching to the non-HD feed. Our HD goes out sometimes and the regular feed is usually still up.

[RainMaker]

Poor boise. that really crushes them
Just highlights how retarded the system is.

[Swaggs]

JMU just got a first on a 3rd and 3. About 3:30 remaining in the 4th.

[Galaril]

HOLY SHIT! What an end to the Hawaii game! Tie game @ 28-28 ,Army has the ball with 25 seconds left at the hawaii 30. and runs one last play to get the ball at the middle of the field for the game winning FG. FUMBLE!!! wait ref calls him down... Review. FUMBLE!! wooo, over time! or wait. 24 seconds left. Pass - first down. LATE hit. 45 yards 15 seconds. 30 yard pass!! 10 seconds, FG HAWAII!!! WINNAHHHHH 31 -28!!! WOOOOOOO

Congrats a win against Army in the least seconds. That sure is an accomplishment that needs to be put on their resumes for sure;)

[DeToxRox]

Not sure what Kelly was thinking there.

[Big Fo]

If you are watching HD, you could maybe try switching to the non-HD feed. Our HD goes out sometimes and the regular feed is usually still up.

We tried that. The standard definition broadcast isn't coming in either.

Oh well, I can watch a stream of this while flipping between Miami-OSU and FSU-Oklahoma I guess.

What a dumb pass, and dumb idea to take Crist out for a trick play. First play after that Michigan scores a TD to tie it. :banghead: Seems like something Weis might have tried.

[Galaril]

ND-Michigan game.... WTF Kelly just pulled Crist who was doing great for a freshman. First pass play interception. Come this isn't U of Cincy anymore.

[Galaril]

Not sure what Kelly was thinking there.

Fucking stupid.

[DeToxRox]

Yeah Kelly channeled his inner Charlie Weiss there and totally over thought the situation unless Crist is somehow hurt.

[Dr. Sak]

Wow that Boise win last week looks better and better...