College football - Week 8

[dawgfan]

Oregon/UCLA tonight, so time for a new thread.

[Matthean]

MSU goes outside of Michigan for the first time all season and plays Northwestern who has a passing offense which is going to be the way to beat them. State likely has enough to win, but after dealing with State fans this year I will giggle like a school girl if they get beat. I'm already praying and fasting for the Iowa game because an undefeated MSU that doesn't get into the title game will be nothing, but an endless sea of whining despite MSU having a BSU like schedule while factoring in MSU being in the Big Ten. They have a mere 3 games outside of the state all year and only one is against a ranked team.

'Bama vs. Tennessee. For the life of me I think 'Bama would have to literally not show up in order for them to lose this game, but last year's game was far closer than it should have been and it's a rivalry game so who knows. This is probably one of those C effort games from 'Bama that they win, but not impressively.

Michigan vs. the bye week as they prepare for their best chance at a win for the rest of the year. Vegas has the bye week at -4. :lol:

[tarcone]

Iowa plays host to Wisconsin. The hunt for the Big10 title continues here. Then next when MSU comes calling. Line play determines the day. We win by 10.

GO HAWKS!

[bob]

Is this the first time the #1 team (coaches poll, anyway) has played on Thursday night (non season opener / bowl game)?

[RedKingGold]

Is this the first time the #1 team (coaches poll, anyway) has played on Thursday night (non season opener / bowl game)?

Nope. Wasn't too long ago that Oregon State upset #1 USC on Thursday night.

[MrBug708]

The massacre at Autzen

[SirFozzie]

dayumn. Oregon's offense is insane, like video game football on the quickest slider possible.

[Chief Rum]

dayumn. Oregon's offense is insane, like video game football on the quickest slider possible.

Yup, it's crazy.

On top of that, UCLA is calling such a ridiculously conservative game, they have no chance in this one (if they ever did).

There has been a lot of complaining about the conservative playcalling on both sides of the ball, but I think it's practically going to be screamed out by fans and local media alike. I only hope to God someone's listening (and if it isn't Neuheisel, hey, don't let the door hit you...)

[SirFozzie]

Playing Oregon, I would say this to my defense. "Do NOT celebrate plays. Get in position to make the next one". UCLA gathers around the player who made the play. Oregon goes to the line for the next play.

Oregon has their heads focused on what's next. UCLA focuses on what they just did.

And another TD. Sheesh.

[Lathum]

UCLA should be embarrassed by the play calling, they are setting football back 80 years.

[Chief Rum]

Playing Oregon, I would say this to my defense. "Do NOT celebrate plays. Get in position to make the next one". UCLA gathers around the player who made the play. Oregon goes to the line for the next play.

Oregon has their heads focused on what's next. UCLA focuses on what they just did.

And another TD. Sheesh.

Agreed. I can't begin to say how frustrated UCLA fans have been with many aspects of this football team on the field.

[Chief Rum]

UCLA should be embarrassed by the play calling, they are setting football back 80 years.

I hope AD Dan Guerrero is watching. Someone needs to send a message to this staff, and then this staff needs to send a message to the team.

[Lathum]

LOL

Oregon is going to score again this half.

[Chief Rum]

LOL

Oregon is going to score again this half.

Yup, looks like it. That's why they called that timeout. You did bet the over, right? Oregon's going to get it by itself.

[SirFozzie]

that was an awesome pass.

[Dr. Sak]

UCLA should be embarrassed by the play calling, they are setting football back 80 years.

You haven't watched Penn State lately have you?

[Lathum]

Yup, looks like it. That's why they called that timeout. You did bet the over, right? Oregon's going to get it by itself.

I have the first half over 31, game over 62, and Oregon total team points over 43.5.

[SirFozzie]

are you kidding me? This is insane.

[Chief Rum]

I have the first half over 31, game over 62, and Oregon total team points over 43.5.

Congrats on the first half win.

[Chief Rum]

This is the ugly side of me as a fan. I literally want Oregon to slaughter us at this point. I want it to be so damn obvious what's not working, that someone finally gets frustrated enough to do something. DO...ANYTHING...DIFFERENT!!!

[SirFozzie]

Very lucky that wasn't a Personal Foul

[Lathum]

Moral victory

[Chief Rum]

Very lucky that wasn't a Personal Foul

It's rare that UCLA doesn't get that PF called. I have never seen a UCLA team get flagged more for personal fouls than this one. Just stupid, undisciplined play.

[Chief Rum]

Moral victory

No, don't encourage them to think everything's "all right". They'll take that and run with it.

[Lathum]

Congrats on the first half win.

Thanks.

This is pretty ugly and I know we are going to get it from them in two weeks.

[bhlloy]

If Thomas is throwing the ball like this (and the receivers are making that many plays) just forget about it. This is really a scary offense. UCLA is not a bad defense at all.

[BishopMVP]

If Thomas is throwing the ball like this (and the receivers are making that many plays) just forget about it. This is really a scary offense. UCLA is not a bad defense at all.Oregon is having a lot to do with it, but UCLA actually has been a pretty terrible defense vs. the run. K-State and Cal put up over 300 yards, Stanford over 200. UCLA's two good wins were vs. Houston and Texas - two teams that can't and won't run.

I absolutely love Oregon's tempo. It's something I think is very underutilized in football - I'm not saying you have to go no-huddle and quite this fast, but if you (think you) are the better team and you're not protecting a lead, you should be trying to increase the total number of plays run in the game to increase your chance of victory.

I also love Autzen and it's high-angled design that traps noise. (The uniforms... not so much.)

[Chief Rum]

If Thomas is throwing the ball like this (and the receivers are making that many plays) just forget about it. This is really a scary offense. UCLA is not a bad defense at all.

That's the thing, though. You're right--there are players on this defense. Good players.

Oregon's deserves a ton of credit and they are playing fantastic.

But they are being handed success here as well by a coordinator who seems almost afraid to blitz. A guy who never takes chances. Who has his corners giving up huge cushions. Who looks for every opportunity to go into a prevent. Who never varies it up. Who watches hours and hours of film, and yet never seems to have the correct gameplan in place until sometime in the second half. Who, also after watching game film by the oodles, never picks up on the fact UCLA plays best on D when it's attacking!

And you know what's really scary? This sorry excuse for a coordinator is probably the better of our two coordinators right now (and, yes, that is Norm Chow calling the offense...)

[BishopMVP]

UCLA FG on 4th and 5 from the Oregon 31. You were saying something about conservative playcalling Chief?

[Chief Rum]

UCLA FG on 4th and 5 from the Oregon 31. What was that about conservative playcalling Chief?

Field Goal U.

[bhlloy]

I have no idea how Norm Chow still has a job. Not only has the offense been poor but for a QB guru, he's done a piss poor job of developing/preparing his guys. Brehaut was a great looking prospect out of high school and he just looks completely lost out there. I think I've said enough on Prince on this board already.

[Chief Rum]

I have no idea how Norm Chow still has a job. Not only has the offense been poor but for a QB guru, he's done a piss poor job of developing/preparing his guys. Brehaut was a great looking prospect out of high school and he just looks completely lost out there. I think I've said enough on Prince on this board already.

And think how hard USC went after him in January? Looks like they dodged a bullet there (although it may not have mattered, since Kiffin would have kept playcalling duties and has shown he can develop a QB).

[dawgfan]

Makes you wonder if Brett Hundley is re-thinking his decision...

[Chief Rum]

Makes you wonder if Brett Hundley is re-thinking his decision...

There shouldn't be a single recruit for UCLA that isn't re-thinking their decision. It doesn't matter how good you recruit if you can't coach those players once they get to school.

[dawgfan]

So on a more serious note, it sounds like you guys are getting fed up with the coaching staff?

I felt like you guys might take a step back this season with the losses off the defense and the issues on the offensive line, with next year being the better chance for really busting out with the young talent Neuheisel has recruited getting another year to develop. I had no idea how much the Pistol would be the focus of the offense (I thought it was just going to be added to the mix, not the staple), nor did I have any sense how effective it would be.

What's your take?

[Lathum]

Whew. Sweet cover.

[AFShadow]

Geez this offense of Oregon's is like watching a football version of Phi Slamma Jamma. These guys could hang 35 on a bunch of pro defenses from the looks of it.

[Chief Rum]

So on a more serious note, it sounds like you guys are getting fed up with the coaching staff?

I felt like you guys might take a step back this season with the losses off the defense and the issues on the offensive line, with next year being the better chance for really busting out with the young talent Neuheisel has recruited getting another year to develop. I had no idea how much the Pistol would be the focus of the offense (I thought it was just going to be added to the mix, not the staple), nor did I have any sense how effective it would be.

What's your take?

My take is that a lot of coaches at a lot of other programs that don't enjoy the kinds of advantages UCLA does find ways to succeed faster and better, and don't seem to be plagued with consistently poor QB play or never able to develop an O-line that can both run and pass block in the same season, and can manage to have both a good offense and a good defense in the same year. Mike Riley does it at OSU, Mike Stoops does it Arizona, Jim Harbaugh does it at Stanford. And that's just in the Pac 10.

I am sick and tired of UCLA continuing to aim short of what it is capable of achieving. This coaching staff is not well paid, and now we see why. So while the specific problem with this team is the overmatched coaching staff, the real problem is the administration at UCLA, that refuses to spend real money for coaches, that refuses to accept donations targeted specifically to help the football program, that is willing to allow a team to march out there on national TV, wearing UCLA's badge, and completely embarrass themselves.

I know you're looking for a football-specific response, but this isn't about football, this is about the culture at UCLA. It's not a culture of success, not with athletics, or certainly not big time athletics. It's a culture of "just good enough". Only now they're not even doing that.

[AFShadow]

That kids James looks like he turns into liquid by the way he squeezes thru some of those holes.

[AFShadow]

I think to be fair to UCLA they may not be ranked team caliber but I think alot of this is Oregon is just this good.

[AFShadow]

Damn there backups are as good as the starters ridiculous.

[Chief Rum]

FWIW, just about anything that could happen to set this team has happened. I mean, an entire offensive line of starters are not with the team, thanks to numerous issues. The best Dlineman hurt his foot in preseason, and the injuries just have heaped up from there (starting C, starting CB, starting WR, starting QB). The team has worthless bunch of juniors and seniors as well, courtesy of the grandness that was the Karl Dorrell era.

But the fact of the matter is, dawg, that while nothing you are saying is not true, it's still a fact that this team has massively underachieved. There is talent on this team, a lot of it in fact. And this coaching staff doesn't seem capable of developing that talent, nor does it seem to have the knowledge on how to use it on the field, nor does it know how to grow a pair of balls and actually play some football instead of pattycake.

Those injuries, departures, etc.? Excuses. This team should be playing better this year. It should have found a bleeping QB by now, too. This staff is awful; they have no idea WTF they are doing.

[Bigsmooth]

Makes you wonder if Brett Hundley is re-thinking his decision...

No shit, I'm sure Sark is all over it...

[MrBug708]

Makes you wonder if Brett Hundley is re-thinking his decision...

Pretty sure Hundley is being told the position is his if he wants it

[MrBug708]

No shit, I'm sure Sark is all over it...

I dont think he was inferring that he would pick UW, Locker had some atrocious games already this year. It's like ditching the fat chick for the ugly chick

[Bigsmooth]

Well he originally chose UCLA over UW in a supposedly close race. That said, I assume UW would be in contention if he did drop UCLA.

[MrBug708]

Well he originally chose UCLA over UW in a supposedly close race. That said, I assume UW would be in contention if he did drop UCLA.

I would assume he would want to go to a good program. I think that if he did open up his recruitment, he'd be at Arizona in their spread. He would be pretty deadly there, not sure why he eliminated them so quickly

[SunDevil]

I would assume he would want to go to a good program. I think that if he did open up his recruitment, he'd be at Arizona in their spread. He would be pretty deadly there, not sure why he eliminated them so quickly

have you been to Tucson lately? :D

[Noop]

My take is that a lot of coaches at a lot of other programs that don't enjoy the kinds of advantages UCLA does find ways to succeed faster and better, and don't seem to be plagued with consistently poor QB play or never able to develop an O-line that can both run and pass block in the same season, and can manage to have both a good offense and a good defense in the same year. Mike Riley does it at OSU, Mike Stoops does it Arizona, Jim Harbaugh does it at Stanford. And that's just in the Pac 10.

I am sick and tired of UCLA continuing to aim short of what it is capable of achieving. This coaching staff is not well paid, and now we see why. So while the specific problem with this team is the overmatched coaching staff, the real problem is the administration at UCLA, that refuses to spend real money for coaches, that refuses to accept donations targeted specifically to help the football program, that is willing to allow a team to march out there on national TV, wearing UCLA's badge, and completely embarrass themselves.

I know you're looking for a football-specific response, but this isn't about football, this is about the culture at UCLA. It's not a culture of success, not with athletics, or certainly not big time athletics. It's a culture of "just good enough". Only now they're not even doing that.

Damn I agree.

[MizzouRah]

Oregon is clearly the #1 team right now.

Talk about speed...

[MizzouRah]

Crappy weather Saturday for the MU - OU game. Been having 70+ sunny days for weeks now too. :(

[dawgfan]

I dont think he was inferring that he would pick UW, Locker had some atrocious games already this year. It's like ditching the fat chick for the ugly chick
"Some" meaning "one" (Nebraska). He's been OK against BYU and ASU, and great against Syracuse, USC and OSU.

If you want atrocious, that would be the passing performances of the UCLA QB's this year.

My point was, if Hundley is thinking about his path to the NFL - which certainly seems to be the case since he abruptly ditched Oregon from his favorites list after going to the passing camp in Hawai'i this summer run by Steve Clarkson - then looking at how the UCLA QB's are being used and how they've performed this year so far should be giving him 2nd thoughts.

[Chief Rum]

"Some" meaning "one" (Nebraska). He's been OK against BYU and ASU, and great against Syracuse, USC and OSU.

If you want atrocious, that would be the passing performances of the UCLA QB's this year.

My point was, if Hundley is thinking about his path to the NFL - which certainly seems to be the case since he abruptly ditched Oregon from his favorites list after going to the passing camp in Hawai'i this summer run by Steve Clarkson - then looking at how the UCLA QB's are being used and how they've performed this year so far should be giving him 2nd thoughts.

Maybe you should wait until the end of the year before you make judgments on the passing game.

I think Brehaut is going to make UCLA's passing game look better by the end of the season, with increased reps.

[dawgfan]

Maybe you should wait until the end of the year before you make judgments on the passing game.

I think Brehaut is going to make UCLA's passing game look better by the end of the season, with increased reps.
That may well be. But while I understand the instinct to get defensive about your favorite team, you'd have to admit that thus far the UCLA passing game has looked really bad, even when Brehaut has played. His numbers are better than Prince's, but still not good.

While Locker hasn't been the Heisman candidate that the hype suggested, the Washington passing game has been pretty good this year.

[Chief Rum]

That may well be. But while I understand the instinct to get defensive about your favorite team, you'd have to admit that thus far the UCLA passing game has looked really bad, even when Brehaut has played. His numbers are better than Prince's, but still not good.

While Locker hasn't been the Heisman candidate that the hype suggested, the Washington passing game has been pretty good this year.

And it should be with a talented senior QB and four year starter. If it wasn't, Sark (or his OC) should be fired.

If you have been following the Hundley recruitment at all, you know it has been more than just opportunity to play or NFL aspirations that have led Hundley to his decision.

I wouldn't go notching Hundley's commitment on Sark's belt just yet.

[BishopMVP]

Maybe you should wait until the end of the year before you make judgments on the passing game.

I think Brehaut is going to make UCLA's passing game look better by the end of the season, with increased reps.Even if he does, that gives UCLA a returning Sophomore starter.

With all this talk of Oregon and their solidifying the #1 ranking next Saturday is going to be quite interesting. USC's offense should have its way with that defense, and playing at home, at night, as the "spoiler" instead of the favorite could lead to an upset special. Any guesses on where the line opens? 9.5?

[Chief Rum]

Even if he does, that gives UCLA a returning Sophomore starter.

With all this talk of Oregon and their solidifying the #1 ranking next Saturday is going to be quite interesting. USC's offense should have its way with that defense, and playing at home, at night, as the "spoiler" instead of the favorite could lead to an upset special. Any guesses on where the line opens? 9.5?

Actually, a returning junior starter. And if Hundley then presumeably redshirts, Brehaut will be a senior starter with Hundley as the backup and heir apparent--and that's assuming Hundley does not beat out Brehaut (or Prince), considering that UCLA's Pistol offense, if they stick with it, is practically a perfect fit for Hundley, a superior athlete.

Washington is not without a QB depth chart itself. Montana was a highly regarded QB recruit last year, the pro style offense Sark runs is a terrific fit for Montana and Montana will ahve been in the system for a year, and a class behind Brehaut. So at Washington, Hundley would have to wait two years to start (on top of a redshirt year).

But I digress. As I said before, his recruitment is about more than starting and the NFL. Or at least his commitment to UCLA was certainly about more than just that.

[BishopMVP]

Whoops - assumed he could get a redshirt for last season, but I see the 17 attempts were spread over 6 games. I do think that if Brehaut or UCLA's offense is playing well enough by the end of the year that it is a seen as a plus it pretty much means he has the job locked up for next fall. The two high-profile switches I recall this offseason were Nebraska (Zac Lee) and Michigan (Tate Forcier) and neither QB was playing well at the end of last season.

[dawgfan]

And it should be with a talented senior QB and four year starter. If it wasn't, Sark (or his OC) should be fired.
Sure, but let's not forget that as talented as Locker is, he ran a Wing-T in high school and mostly spread option his first 3 years at Washington under a QB coach that had never played the position and was better suited as an RB coach. Locker's really only had the season and a half of good, pro-style QB coaching from Sark and Nussmeier.

If you have been following the Hundley recruitment at all, you know it has been more than just opportunity to play or NFL aspirations that have led Hundley to his decision.
Sure, it's not just the NFL. But clearly he started thinking more about how he'd be developed to get a good shot at the NFL midway through his process when he went from favoring Oregon to dropping them altogether.

I wouldn't go notching Hundley's commitment on Sark's belt just yet.
I'm a long, long ways from doing that - I suspect that's highly unlikely. Just pointing out (half-jokingly) that he might be starting to reconsider things based on what he's seen out of the UCLA quarterbacks and offense this season.

I'm sure the way he's looking at it is:

A. "I have a great shot at starting right away" and
B. "My running skills won't be mostly ignored in the Pistol offense"

[MrBug708]

If Hundley were picking a school that would get him to the NFL faster, I doubt either UW or UCLA would have landed anywhere near his top 5 list.

[dawgfan]

If Hundley were picking a school that would get him to the NFL faster, I doubt either UW or UCLA would have landed anywhere near his top 5 list.
By what criteria? Both feature coaches that can point to great track records with QB's in Sark and Chow. If we conclude that Hundley wasn't looking anywhere other than the Pac-10 and Texas A&M, what school rates better in that regard?

[MrBug708]

By what criteria? Both feature coaches that can point to great track records with QB's in Sark and Chow. If we conclude that Hundley wasn't looking anywhere other than the Pac-10 and Texas A&M, what school rates better in that regard?

His list would include something like Florida, LSU, USC, Oregon. Something along that lines. Not programs that havent been relevant in a while, especially in the QB department

FWIW, Rick was at Hundley's game tonight

[tarcone]

Iowa hosts Wiscy at 2:30. Go Hawks.

I was looking forward to watching the Mizzou/okie game. But Im going to a Fall party at 5 pm. Soooooooo, Im hoping the people have the game on TV.

[Matthean]

MSU/NU is sloppy with fumbling due to rain, but it's 7-0 NU with them driving again. NU's OL is pushing State around. If NU holds onto the ball, State's going to have to start showing life, or it's a long day.

EDIT: 10-0.

[Matthean]

Got to love the announcer mentioning the kicker making 14 in a row and the school record being 15 only to see the kicker miss. 10-0 NU.

[mauchow]

Northwestern's gotta get a TD here.

[Matthean]

17-0 Northwestern. Not getting too giddy yet, but MSU is a near no show.

[Passacaglia]

MSU/NU is sloppy with fumbling due to rain, but it's 7-0 NU with them driving again. NU's OL is pushing State around. If NU holds onto the ball, State's going to have to start showing life, or it's a long day.

EDIT: 10-0.

I'm not watching the game (will tune in for the 4th quarter), but I'm about 10 miles south of Evanston, and the amount of rain we got is really no excuse for sloppy play.

[Matthean]

I'm not watching the game (will tune in for the 4th quarter), but I'm about 10 miles south of Evanston, and the amount of rain we got is really no excuse for sloppy play.

There were two fumbles and another due to the ground. 17-7 NU as MSU shows some life. Offensively I think they are fine, but State has to prove they can stop NU.

[Matthean]

14-3 ISU over Texas. An elephant in high heels is more stable than Texas.

[Matthean]

MSU has woken up offensively. I'm not sure I would trust either defense to be honest. 17-14 NU.

[Matthean]

NU gets some nice spots and gets a TD. 24-14 start of the fourth.

[Matthean]

Fake punt by MSU and the next play goes for a TD. 24-21 NU.

[Scarecrow]

Mack Brown might be in hot water...

28-6

[Matthean]

Mack Brown might be in hot water...

28-6

A year after being in the title game and sitting with the current number one class for next year? Um, no.

NU 27-21.

[Matthean]

State takes the lead 28-27 with 2:00 to go.

[Matthean]

NU fails to convert on 4th down so it's pretty much up to State to run out the clock.

[EagleFan]

Nice comeback by the Spartans.

Interesting strategy question. Do you kick the XP to go up 8 or try for clinching the win by way of 2 pt. conversion?

[Schmidty]

Well, that was a fun game. Can't believe the Spartans pulled that out.

Time to play some NCAA 11 and get an even bigger MSU-fix!!!

[Schmidty]

Dola.

Just heard Lou Holtz mention a NC. Even as a huge Spartan fan, I don't think they're close to a NC team. I'd just like to smell some Roses again.

[EagleFan]

Looking at their schedule they have a good chance of being in the conversation at the end of the season.

[dawgfan]

His list would include something like Florida, LSU, USC, Oregon. Something along that lines. Not programs that havent been relevant in a while, especially in the QB department
First, Hundley never appeared to be considering SEC schools. Second, what NFL track record does Kelly at Oregon have with QB's? Dennis Dixon? Unless/until the NFL decides to start running some spread option plays with QB's, systems like what Oregon runs are going to be detrimental to the NFL chances of those QB's. And what track record does Kiffin and Helton have with QB's that is superior to Chow or Sark?

FWIW, Rick was at Hundley's game tonight
I'd do the same if I were him - can't let the prize QB prospect slip away.

[mauchow]

Damn it. Badgers open up the game with a solid drive only to have have 3rd and 1 on the 11 yard line turn into a -8 yard run. Settle for a field goal and then Iowa goes down the field mainly running the ball and gets some help on a weak personal foul face mask call and Iowa takes the lead 6-3 (blocked EP).

[Matthean]

Looking at their schedule they have a good chance of being in the conversation at the end of the season.

I would take BSU over them and not even think twice. MSU has needed overtime to beat a 4-4 ND team and they were at home. They just survived against a team that beat Vandy(2-4), CMU(2-5), Minnesota(1-7) by a combined 8 points. NU also lost last week at home to a team that got smoked 49-0 today. Oh, and NU is their 2nd biggest win all year and might be 3rd when it's all said and done. For the love of all that is holy, I hope Iowa has enough in the tank next week to win. What State needs besides a huge win against Iowa isn't coming until next year.

They are a complete feel good story, but I have flashbacks of MSU/NC in the title game for college basketball when I think about them in the title game this year. Oregon warming up would post 40+ on them.

[dawgfan]

Love love love seeing Navy knock off the Irish for the 3rd time in the last 4 years. Suck it Notre Dame.

[mauchow]

Oh, fuck. The Badgers players are falling left and right. Reminiscent of last year against Iowa. We can't afford to lost James White and have Montee Ball being the primary backup this game. Fuck, fuck, fuck.

edit:

and Montee Ball makes the big play on the shovel pass and gets the 1st down. Sweetness.

[mauchow]

Your turn defense! C'mon Badgers! Big stop and lets get another 8 minute drive to close out the half.

[Chubby]

'CUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUSE!!!

[AFShadow]

Love love love seeing Navy knock off the Irish for the 3rd time in the last 4 years. Suck it Notre Dame.

Yeah they were dominant and the score could easily have been 52-17 if Navy had not pulled the stick up in the 4th as the academies always due out of respect to their opponents.

[Karlifornia]

I can't be the only one here rooting hard for Wisconsin

[mauchow]

Big special teams goof up after some stupid penalties from Iowa and the Badgers will get the ball back with under four to play in the half! Points would be HUGE here but at minimum make this the last possession of the half and keep the MO! BADGERS!

[TroyF]

OKState and Nebraska in a pinball affair. 21-20 Nebraska after the latest Kendall Hunter TD.

Nebraska special teams just owning OkState. A kickoff for a TD and a huge lapse by the OkState punt team allows a long fake punt leading to another TD.

As for the notables:

Nebraska - Martinez with a lost fumble that cost his team three points. Other than that, he's been solid. 57 yards passing, 54 yards rushing. 2 TD passes.

Helu - 6 carries, 16 yards.

OkState -

Hunter - Simply destroying the Nebraska defense. 15 carries, 141 yards, 1 TD.

Blackmon - Has seriously owned the Prince. 2 catches for 49 yards, but also a long PI penalty that helped set up a TD and was open deep one other time and missed.

OkState - 258 yards and 16 first downs. Over six minutes left in the first half.
Nebraska - 185 yards, 6 first downs.

Nebraska about ready to attempt a long field goal.

[TroyF]

Nebraska hits the field goal, OkState does a flee flicker on the first play from scrimmage and hits an 80 yard TD pass to Blackmon. OKState now up 27-24, still six minutes left in the first half.

[StLee]

Les Miles' crazy clock management pays off again at the end of the first half, with Jordan Jefferson running in with a QB keeper with 0:15 left in the half. Controversy of whether or not LSU got the play off in time. The play clock (not game clock) showed :00, but there was no call.

Game tied 10-10 at half, pending the squib and last kneel down.

[mauchow]

Horrible spot call in the Badgers game. If the refs don't overturn that bullshit additional yard to give Iowa a first down I'm going to be officially fucking pissed off after the missed offensive pass interference (PICK) at the end of the half.

[mauchow]

Thank you refs. Badgers get the big stop on defense to start the half and the rain continues to come down a little harder it looks like.

[bronconick]

Scott Shafer's D at Syracuse helps shut down WVU at their own homecoming.

Good thing RichRod got him to fall on his sword and take all the blame for Michigan's worst defense ever in (as of) 2008 and hired Greg Robinson instead. Syracuse started 4 freshmen today.

[kingfc22]

Holy crap Cam Newton!

[GrantDawg]

Hide your children. Cam Newton is coming.

[GrantDawg]

The guy is 250 pounds, and he runs like he is 160. If physics doesn't catch up with him and his knees explode...

[johnnyshaka]

That was quite a run to say the least.

[Buccaneer]

So very much ectatic the Orange won and beating the hated Mountaineers!!!

[molson]

'CUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUSE!!!

Every Syracuse win feels like the biggest win in years. They were just making huge plays everywhere on defense. They need just 2 out of the last 5 now for a bowl (and they have already played the best 2 teams in the conference).

And if they happen to go nuts and win 4 or 5 of those games, and Pitt slips up down the stretch, things could get really crazy. This conference is bad enough to at least consider the possibilities....

[JonInMiddleGA]

Nice run for Auburn right there, but damn that DB coming from the right side was flying

[Buccaneer]

Every Syracuse win feels like the biggest win in years. They were just making huge plays everywhere on defense. They need just 2 out of the last 5 now for a bowl (and they have already played the best 2 teams in the conference).

And if they happen to go nuts and win 4 or 5 of those games, and Pitt slips up down the stretch, things could get really crazy. This conference is bad enough to at least consider the possibilities....

I can't say that hadn't crossed my mind but that would be the craziest thing I would have ever seen in college football. You don't go from being last five years in a row to being first in a large conference. I would be happy for any bowl game, even if they have to go (ugh) El Paso.

[TroyF]

Nice run for Auburn right there, but damn that DB coming from the right side was flying


That was Peterson wasn't it?

I wonder if Auburn hold on to win this game if that will clinch the Heisman for Cam Newton.

He plays Ole Miss, Chattanooga and Georgia before the Alabama game.

Auburn would likely be unbeaten heading into that game. Even with a bad game against Bama, you'd have to think he'd take it.

Of course, it does hinge on if they win this game.

[JonInMiddleGA]

I wonder if Auburn hold on to win this game if that will clinch the Heisman for Cam Newton.

I'd say that a one-loss Newton has the Heisman.

[sovereignstar v2]

'Atta boy, Stanzi.

[JonInMiddleGA]

That looked like a Baton Rouge firedrill.

[bronconick]

Ferentz apparently thinks he has the same deal with the Devil as Miles.

[bhlloy]

Ferentz with an all time terrible timeout, and then Stanzi makes a bonehead play and the game is over. You just can't throw a pass that isn't going to get a first down right there, especially not a fluttering toss to a running back that has three guys on him.

[MrBug708]

They "found" Cam Newton? Kid was the best JC player in the nation.

[TroyF]

They "found" Cam Newton? Kid was the best JC player in the nation.

Who had been good enough to get a ride at Florida.

That said, the best JC player in the nation usually doesn't become the best player in the nation. Guy has had an incredible year. The Auburn/Bama game could be epic on a lot of levels.

[mauchow]

I am on cloud nine. My wife and her girlfriends who came over for a shower are all calling me a psycho right now. That win was as big as the win against tOSU last week. Absolutely hammered with injuries, Montee Ball comes up as HUGE as you possibly could. He had himself a FANTASTIC game in the second half; picking up first downs as a WR, moving the pile and of course the most important thing, scoring the touchdown on a BEAST of a run with a minute to go.

My face is still sore from smiling so much. WWOWOOOOOW!

My blood pressure has never been so high in my life...

[JPhillips]

What happens if OSU, Wiscy and MSU all have one loss?

[Karlifornia]

Byeowa

[mauchow]

What happens if OSU, Wiscy and MSU all have one loss?

Then a 3rd team will be left out of the BCS, much like the Badgers were a few years back when they had one loss and were left out in 2006.

As far as who wins the division...MSU would get it as they'd be 1-0 against familiar opponents, Badgers would be second, and tOSU #3.

The Badgers should be able to stay ahead of tOSU in the BCS as they would have played NW and MSU compared to tOSU missing those two and having Illinois/Penn State. And the voters will probably continue to give the Badgers the nod ahead of the Buckeyes, but BCS ranking doesn't matter after #1 and #2 as the Bowls will select who they want.

[GrantDawg]

That was Peterson wasn't it?

I wonder if Auburn hold on to win this game if that will clinch the Heisman for Cam Newton.

He plays Ole Miss, Chattanooga and Georgia before the Alabama game.

Auburn would likely be unbeaten heading into that game. Even with a bad game against Bama, you'd have to think he'd take it.

Of course, it does hinge on if they win this game.

I'd say that a one-loss Newton has the Heisman.

Only hic-up could be a bad game versus anyone but Alabama. Ole Miss could give him problems, and it is possible but not probable that Georgia might. A sub-100 yard game with multiple interceptions might tarnish him enough that someone could stalk up on him. But who, really? Maybe the Oregon RB, but that would be the only one with a shot that I could think of. Mallet has faded, and so has Pryor.

[TroyF]

Yeah, I think James is the only one with a real shot at this point. He still has high profile games on national tv left. (including USC)

A series of huge games could put him in contention, but I don't see how he jumps Newton without Newton seriously crapping the bed.

[RainMaker]

Then a 3rd team will be left out of the BCS, much like the Badgers were a few years back when they had one loss and were left out in 2006.

As far as who wins the division...MSU would get it as they'd be 1-0 against familiar opponents, Badgers would be second, and tOSU #3.

The Badgers should be able to stay ahead of tOSU in the BCS as they would have played NW and MSU compared to tOSU missing those two and having Illinois/Penn State. And the voters will probably continue to give the Badgers the nod ahead of the Buckeyes, but BCS ranking doesn't matter after #1 and #2 as the Bowls will select who they want.
I think you'll be the odd team out again unfortunately. MSU gets the auto-bid and Ohio State is going to draw better for a BCS game so they'll get picked before you guys.

You basically need Boise State, Utah and/or TCU to lose at some point.

[MJ4H]

Just in from the Arkansas-Ole Miss game. Played well in the first half, but Mallett had another of those puzzling interceptions (straight to a defender). Then Mallett didn't play at all in the second half. No idea why. Offense was fine, but the defense went crazy, allowing all kinds of big plays. Let Ole Miss right back in it after basically controlling the game and being up 21 points. A few big plays right back for Arkansas put the game back away.

Nice to get the stupid Houston Nutt monkey off our back.

[MrBug708]

Gameday to Los Angeles next week for Oregon-USC

[mauchow]

I think you'll be the odd team out again unfortunately. MSU gets the auto-bid and Ohio State is going to draw better for a BCS game so they'll get picked before you guys.

You basically need Boise State, Utah and/or TCU to lose at some point.

Possibly. If the chips fall like crazy it'd be hilarious to see MSU and WI get #1 and #2 in the BCS. Highly unlikely but still possible. It starts tonight with Mizzou needing to beat OU and Tennessee upsetting Bama.

[Mustang]

Ohio State is going to draw better for a BCS game so they'll get picked before you guys.


Draw what? Attendance?

You severely underestimate Wisconsin's fan base's willingness to travel.

[mauchow]

Draw what? Attendance?

You severely underestimate Wisconsin's fan base's willingness to travel.

I do believe that the Bowls would be smart enough to pick Wisconsin over tOSU in that situation. There would be A LOT of people calling for their heads if they picked tOSU over Wisconsin when WI beat 'em...

And Mustang is right, Wisconsin travels VERY VERY well.

[Cuckoo]

OU seems to be moving it at will on Mizzou, but two red-zone turnovers are just killers. I'm also disappointed in the way the defense is playing. Tigers are shutting down pass rush and dominating the line of scrimmage on that side of the ball against what's supposed to be one of OU's strengths, the d-line.

[CU Tiger]

Just got in from the Clemson GT game....neither team is very good.
But at least my Tigers got a win over our prsonal albatross. In a shocking development we denied Nesbitt from breaking former Clemson QB Woody Dantzler's all time ACC rushing yards by a QB record. He came into the game needing 44 yards, and made a few statements about breaking the record in front of the record holder's home crowd....his stat line was 14 for (-2)....that was nice.

[CU Tiger]

Come on OU....I have too much money on this game...Boomer Sooner.

[CU Tiger]

FAWK FAWK FAWK FAWK...thats NOT what I needed

[mauchow]

3 and out. Boom!

Could be three #1's in a row that go down on Game Day away from the #1's house. Next week is #1 probable Oregon @ USC on... Game Day!

[Noop]

OU is not #1 in the AP or Coaches Poll so technically there wont be three #1's losing in three weeks.

[mauchow]

OU is way too exhausted on defense it looks like... Field goal range in a hurry and they are destroying them now.

[mauchow]

OU is not #1 in the AP or Coaches Poll so technically there wont be three #1's losing in three weeks.

Well, the BCS #1.... which is probably the most important one at the moment :)

[Noop]

Looks like OU gave up.

[Cuckoo]

Congrats to the Tigers fans on the board. Good win for Mizzou.

As I posted in the "lock" thread, I was worried something like this would happen. The youth had to catch up to OU at some point, and they just made mistake after mistake in this one. I hated their defensive gameplan, and Mizzou's offensive line just whipped OU up front.

I'm trying not to get too down, though. Watching the game and seeing how many insanely talented freshmen OU has, I'm placated a bit. They have to regroup and win some tough road games down the stretch to make the Big 12 Championship, maybe get another shot at Mizzou.

[Matthean]

How did Oklahoma get beat by a team that's barely a top 25 team? :devil:

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Yet another week that falls directly in line with my comments regarding the Big 12 made a couple of weeks back. There's several 'good' teams that keep beating each other with no real elite teams to speak of right now. Mizzou is obviously the only team in this conference left with a legitimate shot at a national championship, but they'll have to beat NU on the road and then face the South champion in a road environment. I expect the conference to continue to follow that trend of beating up on each other and have a champion with 2 losses.

[kingfc22]

So Oregon basically has a bid locked in for the title game.

I just don't see how they lose the rest of the way.

[molson]

Looks like OU gave up.

Seriously - how can you punt with 2:10 left down 9?

And why do you go for 2 when kicking would put you down 8?

[RomaGoth]

I am on cloud nine. My wife and her girlfriends who came over for a shower are all calling me a psycho right now.
My face is still sore from smiling so much. WWOWOOOOOW!

My blood pressure has never been so high in my life...

:popcorn:

[SirFozzie]

I'll tell you what, if after all this they still try to match TCU-Boise together in a BCS game, they might as well tell Congress "Yeah, we're fucking asses.. do whatever you want to us"

[dawgfan]

Oregon will get tested the rest of the way. They will probably get USC's best shot, Cal is awfully good at home (though awful on the road), Arizona is looking like a legit top-15 team and Oregon State is well-coached. Only the game with Washington looks like a sure, easy win.

[RainMaker]

Seriously - how can you punt with 2:10 left down 9?

And why do you go for 2 when kicking would put you down 8?
I didn't understand the punt either. Why not take a chance there?

[Ksyrup]

Who had been good enough to get a ride at Florida.

That said, the best JC player in the nation usually doesn't become the best player in the nation. Guy has had an incredible year. The Auburn/Bama game could be epic on a lot of levels.

It's not like he worked his way up through the JC ranks from out of nowhere. "Extenuating circumstances" put him at the JC level, to say the least. I think Newton at JC is roughly comparable to Steve McNair - if you had taken McNair off of Alcorn State and put him with a big conference team, I think he would have dominated, too.

[Greyroofoo]

So if AUburn goes undefeated, do they get into the National Title game? Or will they get screwed over again.

[kingfc22]

So if AUburn goes undefeated, do they get into the National Title game? Or will they get screwed over again.

If Oregon, Boise an Auburn are all undefeated it will be Oregon/Auburn as Auburn will jump Boise St. in the computers if not the polls as well.

[RomaGoth]

So if AUburn goes undefeated, do they get into the National Title game? Or will they get screwed over again.

Again?

[molson]

So if AUburn goes undefeated, do they get into the National Title game? Or will they get screwed over again.

They're in if they run the table. They'd be ahead of undefeated Boise St, TCU, and Utah for sure, and I'd say Michigan St. and Missouri as well (since they'd have to beat Alabama on the road, and then probably South Carolina a 2nd time in an SEC Championship game.) And neither Michigan St. or Missouri's non-conference schedules are good enough to feel bad about leaving them out over a team that swept the SEC.

I'm more curious to see what happens to 1-loss Alabama team in the rankings v. an undefeated Boise St/TCU/Utah. They're already ahead of Missouri and Utah in the new polls.

[Greyroofoo]

Again?

I was referring to the 2004 season, to quote Wikipedia


2004 Season

The Auburn Tigers ended 2004 on top of the world, beating everyone in their path to a potential national championship berth. Although they had accomplished all they had, two other schools did the exact same thing as well. (Oklahoma & Southern California) This left Auburn out of the BCS Championship game due to the BCS system. Since this event has happened, every SEC team who has run the table has not only been able to play for the title, but win it in extraordinary fashion. In 2008, Sports Illustrated re-entered the 2004 statistics into the BCS system, out of curiosity, to see the outcome. The re-entered version had Auburn at #2, leaving the Sooners out of the title match at #3.

As of 2010, Southern California's national championship in 2004 has been stripped from the program due to infractions regarding running back Reggie Bush. Tommy Tuberville, Auburn's head coach at the time, stated that the Championship should be awarded to the 2004 Auburn Tigers. This was after he had been removed from coaching the team after a lack-luster year in 2008, and had accepted the head coaching job at Texas Tech University. The board denied this attempt for now, and has stated the will leave the 2004 championship trophy vacant at this time. TIME Magazine had Auburn listed as the #1 Team in 2004 as it's national champion. Tuberville viewed this as a "split" with USC, and all Auburn Players received championship rings.

[MJ4H]

If Auburn went undefeated and Boise State played for the NC instead of them then:

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

[molson]

If Auburn went undefeated and Boise State played for the NC instead of them then:

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

They'll jump Boise St. in the BCS standings long before they beat Alabama on the road, but it wouldn't even be CLOSE after that.

[GrantDawg]

They're in if they run the table. They'd be ahead of undefeated Boise St, TCU, and Utah for sure, and I'd say Michigan St. and Missouri as well (since they'd have to beat Alabama on the road, and then probably South Carolina a 2nd time in an SEC Championship game.) And neither Michigan St. or Missouri's non-conference schedules are good enough to feel bad about leaving them out over a team that swept the SEC.

I'm more curious to see what happens to 1-loss Alabama team in the rankings v. an undefeated Boise St/TCU/Utah. They're already ahead of Missouri and Utah in the new polls.


They'll jump those team regardless, but Auburn will get no help from the SEC championship game if they beat a team the second time there.

[MizzouRah]

I can't talk because my voice is gone, but I can type.. :)

That was one of the most exciting sports games I have ever watched in my 39 years of exsistance.

The kickoff returned for a TD to start the game, are you kidding me?

We finally have a defense Chase Daniel longed for!

Really nervous about next week in Nebraska, but that win last night made my season.

[RainMaker]

If Auburn went undefeated and Boise State played for the NC instead of them then:

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
I don't see any scenario where Boise makes the NC game. It's all a show, they aren't eligible for the game.

[tarcone]

I can't talk because my voice is gone, but I can type.. :)

That was one of the most exciting sports games I have ever watched in my 39 years of exsistance.

The kickoff returned for a TD to start the game, are you kidding me?

We finally have a defense Chase Daniel longed for!

Really nervous about next week in Nebraska, but that win last night made my season.

Great win. Enjoy the ride while it lasts. Its a great time.
Mizzous defense is for real.
Gabbert is a stud.

Mizzou has a legit shot at The NC game.

How about a Michigan State/Missouri national championship game? Would that be better then a Boise St./TCU game?

[Schmidty]

All I know is that I'm not surprised by all the bashing and dismissing around the web, but people that bring up their schedule are talking out of their asses. MSU has the 13th SOS. Oregon, for example, is like 118th. Yeah, sure I think MSU would lose against them, but come on. You can't be a bad-mediocre team and go 8-0 in the Big Ten.

[Lathum]

All I know is that I'm not surprised by all the bashing and dismissing around the web, but people that bring up their schedule are talking out of their asses. MSU has the 13th SOS. Oregon, for example, is like 118th. Yeah, sure I think MSU would lose against them, but come on. You can't be a bad-mediocre team and go 8-0 in the Big Ten.

I think it is more the way MSU has won. The needed a big second half to pull away from Illinois, had to mount a huge comback down 17 to an average Northwestern, beat a 1-5 Fl Atlantic team by only 13, and needed a gimmick play in OT to beat a below average ND team.

Not to take anything from MSU, 8-0 is great and the win against Wisconsin is great, but put them up against the other top teams. BSU and Oregon are literally smashing their competition to bits, and in Oregons case against some very good teams, and Auburn plays in the SEC so anytime someone is undefeated in that conference it is going to be inflated.

[Matthean]

You can't be a bad-mediocre team and go 8-0 in the Big Ten.

I don't know, OSU tends to do it. :devil: I wouldn't say they are bad, or mediocre, but that's a team who is living on borrowed time. I think it's a crock that they are considered 5th in the nation right now via the BCS.

[Greyroofoo]

They'll jump Boise St. in the BCS standings long before they beat Alabama on the road, but it wouldn't even be CLOSE after that.

Looks like Auburn didn't have to wait long...

[Butter]

I think it is more the way MSU has won. The needed a big second half to pull away from Illinois, had to mount a huge comback down 17 to an average Northwestern, beat a 1-5 Fl Atlantic team by only 13, and needed a gimmick play in OT to beat a below average ND team.

They remind me somewhat of the Ohio St. 2002 team in the way they pull out close games.

Of course, OSU of 2002 had an actual defense, but I guess all teams are built differently.

[MizzouRah]

Great win. Enjoy the ride while it lasts. Its a great time.
Mizzous defense is for real.
Gabbert is a stud.

Mizzou has a legit shot at The NC game.

How about a Michigan State/Missouri national championship game? Would that be better then a Boise St./TCU game?

We still have a LONG road ahead, but that one win was worth the season for me.

[molson]

Looks like Auburn didn't have to wait long...

And TCU is only .0013 behind BSU. If TCU can run the table (and beat Utah), they'd blow buy Boise St. as well.

More importantly than all that, :), is that a few honorable souls have voted for Syracuse in both polls. Good for 29th in the AP, and 35th in the coach's poll.

[Ksyrup]

I guess this goes in next week's thread, but I'm scared shitless of a Thursday night road game for FSU. If they can win @ NC State, I'll be shocked - but happy.

[CU Tiger]

Go (GULP!) Pack....We would need to beat FSU and have them lose an additional game...Thursday is as good a chance as any...

[molson]

Could be some fun football weather tonight in Boise - it's dark, cold, rainy, and windy.

[RomaGoth]

Could be some fun football weather tonight in Boise - it's dark, cold, rainy, and windy.

Not really on topic, but I went to the BSU-Toledo game a few weeks ago, and it was a good time. First college game I have been to in many years.

[bronconick]

All I know is that I'm not surprised by all the bashing and dismissing around the web, but people that bring up their schedule are talking out of their asses. MSU has the 13th SOS. Oregon, for example, is like 118th. Yeah, sure I think MSU would lose against them, but come on. You can't be a bad-mediocre team and go 8-0 in the Big Ten.

Where did you find a SOS that had MSU that high?

You have FCS Northern Colorado (2-6), Western Michigan (3-4), Florida Atlantic (1-5) and Notre Dame (4-4) in your nonconference schedule. That's an out and out joke. You haven't yet played Iowa as of today, and you don't play Ohio State. Every list I've found has them in the high 40's to low 50's.

[wade moore]

All I know is that I'm not surprised by all the bashing and dismissing around the web, but people that bring up their schedule are talking out of their asses. MSU has the 13th SOS. Oregon, for example, is like 118th. Yeah, sure I think MSU would lose against them, but come on. You can't be a bad-mediocre team and go 8-0 in the Big Ten.

Where did you find a SOS that had MSU that high?

You have FCS Northern Colorado (2-6), Western Michigan (3-4), Florida Atlantic (1-5) and Notre Dame (4-4) in your nonconference schedule. That's an out and out joke. You haven't yet played Iowa as of today, and you don't play Ohio State. Every list I've found has them in the high 40's to low 50's.

Yeah, not sure where he's getting that.

Sagarin has MSU at 65th, Boise State at 69th, and Oregon at 59th.

[Lathum]

Could be some fun football weather tonight in Boise - it's dark, cold, rainy, and windy.

good to know. I may hit you up for a weather report closer to game time.

[Matthean]

Yeah, not sure where he's getting that.

Sagarin has MSU at 65th, Boise State at 69th, and Oregon at 59th.

I kept thinking MSU's schedule was very BSU like. At least BSU knows how to beat the crappy teams.

[Ksyrup]

Justin Blackmon was arrested for DUI coming back from the Cowboys game. Whoops.

[Lathum]

Justin Blackmon was arrested for DUI coming back from the Cowboys game. Whoops.

Carrying on the Dez Bryant legacy.

[Ksyrup]

Well, he was coming back from the Dallas game, so he might have been literally following Dez.

[molson]

good to know. I may hit you up for a weather report closer to game time.

Now it's all sunny and warm all of the sudden. Oh well. I'll be watching the Celtics either way, but there was at least some potential appeal of getting boozed up and watching college football in a windy, rainy mess of a stadium.

[BishopMVP]

Justin Blackmon was arrested for DUI coming back from the Cowboys game. Whoops.Saw something saying it was a misdemeanor ticket and max $350 fine. Either Texas has the loosest DUI laws in the US (possible) or he was caught with a BAC below the legal limit but charged/arrested because he is under 21. Incredibly bad timing just after his coming-out game vs. Prince Anukamara, but might not be quite as bad as the headline suggests.

[molson]

Saw something saying it was a misdemeanor ticket and max $350 fine. Either Texas has the loosest DUI laws in the US (possible) or he was caught with a BAC below the legal limit but charged/arrested because he is under 21. Incredibly bad timing just after his coming-out game vs. Prince Anukamara, but might not be quite as bad as the headline suggests.

It looks like he was indeed arrested on an under-21 DUI (i.e. any amount of intoxication), but I think $350 was just the bond he had to post. No idea what 1st-time Texas DUI penalties are, but ya, it's probably pretty light.

[BishopMVP]

I figured the under-21 DUI was a separate, lighter category - but if a quick google search is to be believed, it does look like Texas laws are incredibly soft, at least compared to Massachusetts - Texas DWI Law - Penalties, Fines and Sentencing (http://criminal-law.freeadvice.com/drunk_driving/texas-dui.htm) Should have more info tomorrow - Gundy said he'd have the facts gathered sometime tomorrow afternoon (as well as the requisite "I'd let him babysit my kids" line.)

[Ksyrup]

It would have only been $1 and a pat on the ass if he had been under 21, DUI, and was carrying a gun. Stupid kids doing things without thinking...

[BishopMVP]

It would have only been $1 and a pat on the ass if he had been under 21, DUI, and was carrying a gun. Stupid kids doing things without thinking...Oh come on, first DUI is barely a crime in Texas. You think carrying a firearm is, unlicensed or otherwise? :)

Blackmon suspended for at least 1 game.

(EDIT - If you're referring to why I thought "Under 21 DUI" was/could be less, at least in MA you can be charged with DUI at .02 if you are under 21 vs. a minimum of .08 for those >21.)

[dawgfan]

Not sure if this has been posted elsewhere, but a highly entertaining meltdown by the FAU radio color guy after their QB gets hit in the helmet:

http://deadspin.com/5674947/