NFL Week 9 Discussion Thread: More Breaking News

[Sun Tzu]

In a stunning turn of events, Bill Belichick has received the entire Minnesota Vikings slot of draft picks for the 2011 NFL draft, courtesy of Brad Childress. In return, the Vikings send nothing but a box of Ritz crackers and a picture of Randy Moss, signed by Dennis Green.

In other news...

A man in Mexico City sees the likeness of Brett Favre in a catina window. Thousands gather.

At least one player from every team will "guarantee victory" in an upcoming game.

JaMarcus Russell has a workout with the Washington Redskins.

...discuss...

[GrantDawg]

In a stunning turn of events, Bill Belichick has received the entire Minnesota Vikings slot of draft picks for the 2011 NFL draft, courtesy of Brad Childress. In return, the Vikings send nothing but a box of Ritz crackers and a picture of Randy Moss, signed by Dennis Green.

In other news...

A man in Mexico City sees the likeness of Brett Favre in a catina window. Thousands gather.

At least one player from every team will "guarantee victory" in an upcoming game.

JaMarcus Russell has a workout with the Washington Redskins.

...discuss...


I can buy the rest, but there is no way that the Redskins worked Russell out. I mean, come on, that is too far fetched.

[JediKooter]

Agreed. I just can't see Russell getting his fat ass off the couch to even make an effort to make the trip.

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

if russell, merriman and moss aren't all redskins by next week i'll be disappointed in dan snyder.

[stevew]

Moss is a food critic now?

[CU Tiger]

Moss is a food critic now?


He dont eat no slop, thats for sure

[JS19]

Watching NFL Live... got a pretty good kick out of the McNabb interview. He's sweating bullets and gasping for breath as he answers questions about his benching.

[Lathum]

Tinucci’s Restaurant and Catering provided a spread for the team. Moss, according to the owner Gus Tinucci in The Pioneer Press, looked at the food and said it wasn’t fit for his dog — “and he’s screaming it at the top of his lungs.”

Moss’s rant might have helped speed his exit from the team. According to Tinucci, Brett Favre wasn’t pleased by Moss’s display.


“If Favre would have had a ball, he would have beaned him right in the head. Favre looked at him like, ‘Are you kidding me?’” Tinucci told the Pioneer Press.

lol, what a piece of shit Moss is.

[Mustang]

Sounds like Tinucci’s Restaurant is going to have a nice short term bump in business as people determine if Randy was right or now.

[molson]

lol, what a piece of shit Moss is.

I'm just relieved Moss apparently feeds his dogs.

[sovereignstar v2]

Did anyone post this yet? I'm going to anyways!

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j61/Rircore/clip0033.gif

[Lathum]

Going to the Giants-Seahawks game on Sunday. Just found out my boy who works for Costco got box seats and field passes from a vendor. My excitement level just went through the roof.

[Thomkal]

Going to the Giants-Seahawks game on Sunday. Just found out my boy who works for Costco got box seats and field passes from a vendor. My excitement level just went through the roof.

well good news for you. Hasselback won't be playing due to his concussion.

[BishopMVP]

Pats season in trouble/Ping JiMGA - Patriots sign QB Jonathan Crompton and DL Lorenzo Washington practice squad (http://www.patriots.com/news/index.cfm?ac=pressreleasesdetail&pid=45688&pcid=47&rss=1)

[MikeVic]

Why is the Pats' season in trouble?

[JonInMiddleGA]

Pats season in trouble/Ping JiMGA - Patriots sign QB Jonathan Crompton and DL Lorenzo Washington practice squad (http://www.patriots.com/news/index.cfm?ac=pressreleasesdetail&pid=45688&pcid=47&rss=1)

Ah yes, the Incrompetent One ;)

(Also proof that, slimy SOB that he might be, Lane Kiffin isn't a bad offensive mind at times. He actually made the guy productive for a while)

[Ronnie Dobbs2]

Jon had to live through Crompton at Tennessee. Tongue in cheek with the season in trouble, though.

[Lathum]

well good news for you. Hasselback won't be playing due to his concussion.

He is just afraid.

[Thomkal]

He is just afraid.

Well given the percentage of QB's the Giants defense has knocked out of games, lets just say he's feeling the effects of the concussion a bit less than he's letting on. :)

[Matthean]

If I'm a QB facing the Giants, I tell my offense that I take them out for diner if I'm not KOed during the game. :lol:

[Rizon]

Did anyone post this yet? I'm going to anyways!

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j61/Rircore/clip0033.gif

Pumpy looks super silly there.

[MikeVic]

New England Patriots' Myron Pryor fined $7,500 for hit that cut Favre - ESPN Boston (http://sports.espn.go.com/boston/nfl/news/story?id=5767916)

Stupid.

[Thomkal]

I was surprised New England's Gary Guyton was not fined more and/or suspended for what at the time I thought was a pretty blatant helmet to helmet contact.

[Greyroofoo]

Always nice to see the Colts put another player on IR (Clint Sessions) :banghead:

[Sun Tzu]

That's racist.

[miami_fan]

DeSean Jackson will be wearing a new helmet to help prevent concussions. Shouldn't this helmet be mandatory for all players?

[stevew]

Everyone should look like Mark Kelso did.

[fantom1979]

DeSean Jackson will be wearing a new helmet to help prevent concussions. Shouldn't this helmet be mandatory for all players?

Lets just get the chin straps on the guys first. I don't know how many times I see freaking running backs in the backfield (right before the ball is snapped) with their chin straps off or their mouth piece still in their face mask.

[Greyroofoo]

Always nice to see the Colts put another player on IR (Clint Sessions) :banghead:

The Colts placed another player IR today, this time WR Anthony Gonzales :banghead:

[Matthean]

The Colts placed another player IR today, this time WR Anthony Gonzales :banghead:

Does the I in IR stand for Indianapolis?

[Neuqua]

And I thought the Bears organization was a mess.

Sources: Percy Harvin confronted coach

By Ed Werder
ESPN
Archive

MINNEAPOLIS -- A confrontation between Minnesota Vikings coach Brad Childress and receiver Percy Harvin grew so heated Friday afternoon that coaches and players were forced to separate them to prevent a physical exchange, according to team sources.

The confrontation, which was first reported by The (Minneapolis) Star Tribune as a heated argument between the two, occurred during a light Friday afternoon practice, Harvin's first of the week after suffering a sprained ankle last Sunday against the New England Patriots. Harvin was seen limping badly during the portion of practice open to reporters.

According to sources, Childress questioned Harvin's effort during the practice. When Harvin took exception, Childress suggested Harvin submit to further testing on the ankle. The debate escalated and "was as close to physical as you can get," according to the source.

After the two were separated, according to sources, a teammate told Harvin: "You just did what a lot of us have been wanting to say for years."

According to sources, Harvin had further testing on the ankle Saturday morning. He remains questionable for Sunday's game against the Arizona Cardinals.

[JPhillips]

Good god Childress is an unstable wreck. How long until he barricades himself in an underground bunker hoping to outsmart and hide from his enemies?

[Sun Tzu]

The Brad Childress & Brett Favre combo was always a ticking time bomb waiting to implode. Far too much drama.

[mauchow]

Childress has needed to go since.... when he took the job over. I constantly berated Childress in the last two seasons and called him a Top 5 Worst coach in the NFL and nobody believed; glad his reign may finally come to an end..... Wilf can't continue to fire top notch players in favor of Childress. Childress is the problem; has been and always will be. If Wylf had the balls last week we'd still have Moss and be sitting just fine for a playoff push.

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

in other dysfunctional qb & hc news

from pft:
The Washington Redskins are off this week, but there's no reprieve from the constant discussion about why Mike Shanahan benched Donovan McNabb late in last week's loss to the Lions.

The latest talk comes from a report on ESPN on Sunday morning in which Chris Mortensen said that Shanahan and his son and offensive coordinator, Kyle Shanahan, have had to cut their playbook in half in order to pare it down enough for McNabb to learn it.

And it gets worse: Mortensen reports that even when McNabb is operating with the Cliff's Notes version of the playbook, he sometimes has trouble correctly calling the plays in the huddle.

At this point, with all these stories coming out about McNabb being unable to figure out the offense, it's hard not to get the feeling that there are folks within the Redskins organization who are making a concerted effort to make McNabb look bad. That's exactly what ESPN's Tom Jackson, who played in Denver for three seasons when Shanahan was a Broncos assistant, said after Mortensen's report.

"If you have a problem with your quarterback," Jackson said, "you call [him] in and you discuss that. This has now become so public that the quarterback is going to be completely embarrassed and it makes his job harder."

In Jackson's view, Shanahan and McNabb simply won't be able to work together going forward -- and Jackson thinks that's more Shanahan's fault than McNabb's.

"I always thought the job of a coach is to adjust your system to the guy who's quarterbacking your team," Jackson said. "This situation is irreconcilable.

[Matthean]

The Brad Childress & Brett Favre combo was always a ticking time bomb waiting to implode. Far too much drama.

And I saw the video that came along with the report where it said Favre will sit as soon as he thinks there isn't any hope left in the season. In other words, the streak will be ending shortly.

in other dysfunctional qb & hc news

from pft:

Reminds me of the story about Plummer that got posted. Jake vastly blamed Shanahan due to him being a perfectionist to where it's detrimental.

[Abe Sargent]

in other dysfunctional qb & hc news

from pft:

I question that, because if that were truly the case, then why does McNabb have the locker room on his side according to the reports I've seen.

[mckerney]

Childress is a locker room cancer, questioning Harvin's effort is absolutely ridiculous. In hind sight T.O. was probably in the right telling Chilly not to talk to him when they were in Philly.

[Buccaneer]

"I always thought the job of a coach is to adjust your system to the guy who's quarterbacking your team," Jackson said. "This situation is irreconcilable.

But there is only so much you can cut and simplify due to a stupid QB until it becomes a no-win situation.

[tucker rocky]

Favre throws INT, Arz runs it back, Minn strips ball from defender, ball goes out the back of the endzone.

[sovereignstar v2]

Greg Camarillo for Hustle of the Year Award.

[Greyroofoo]

Is Cleveland really up by 10 over NE?

[JPhillips]

But there is only so much you can cut and simplify due to a stupid QB until it becomes a no-win situation.

But they picked him.

[Thomkal]

Favre throws INT, Arz runs it back, Minn strips ball from defender, ball goes out the back of the endzone.

*sigh* Who got the INT?

[Thomkal]

Jonathan Stewart joins DeAngelo Williams on the sideline as they cart him off the field.

[Sun Tzu]

Let's go Vikings D. You've been a supreme disappointment on my fantasy team this year.

[Thomkal]

Baltimore gets an easy INT when a Miami receiver falls down then have to settle for a FG...then the holder fumbles the hold. Ugh

[Thomkal]

Claussen in for Moore in Carolina

[JonInMiddleGA]

questioning Harvin's effort is absolutely ridiculous.

+1

[Bearcat729]

Wes Welker is going to be kicking for New England

[Alan T]

Mangini and Cleveland are pulling all kinds of neat things out of their bag of tricks vs New England today.

[Thomkal]

Wes Welker is going to be kicking for New England

seriously?

[Bearcat729]

seriously?

Supposedly Gostkowski is injured. Welker was practicing his field goals.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Supposedly Gostkowski is injured. Welker was practicing his field goals.

Great, three guesses who my fantasy kicker was today. That's on top of having Jonathan Stewart in the lineup.
edit to add: Not to mention counting on Roddy White as one of my top scorers.

[Bearcat729]

As Browns fan I'm loving how the team has been playing in the first half of the game.

Having seen the other games the Browns have played this season I hold out hope that we don't blow it in the second half like we have been doing this season.

[larrymcg421]

Okay, there is no dumber rule in all of sports than this stupid "going to the ground" bullshit that just overruled a Houston TD.

[Thomkal]

Great, three guesses who my fantasy kicker was today. That's on top of having Jonathan Stewart in the lineup.
edit to add: Not to mention counting on Roddy White as one of my top scorers.

I'm guessing concussion with Stewart with a helmet to helmet hit, so not likely to be back I think

[mckerney]

Great timeout by Childress to give Arizona enough time to score before the half.

I'm happy he's doing whatever it takes to ensure he won't coaching the Vikings next week.

[Thomkal]

My beloved Cards over Minnesota 14-10 at the half. That would be the last nail in the coffin for the Vikings given the Cards poor play this year and Vikes at home.

[Thomkal]

And now the Panthers are down to one healthy running back as Tyrell Sutton goes off the field with a leg or ankle injury

[DaddyTorgo]

fuck me - seriously??

we're losing to fucking Cleveland??

[Alan T]

fuck me - seriously??

we're losing to fucking Cleveland??


They beat up the Saints pretty badly a few weeks ago. They aren't a horrible team


Edit:

Yes, their record is bad, but that is several close losses to pretty strong teams this season. The only easy team Cleveland has faced was Cincy, who they beat

[Bearcat729]

I like Colt McCoy. Now I just wonder who will we might be able to get to give him a top flight receiver next season.

[DaddyTorgo]

They beat up the Saints pretty badly a few weeks ago. They aren't a horrible team


Edit:

Yes, their record is bad, but that is several close losses to pretty strong teams this season. The only easy team Cleveland has faced was Cincy, who they beat

Yeah, but it's fucking Cleveland. I hate fucking Cleveland. I wish them an eternity of misfortune and suffering.

[Ronnie Dobbs2]

That should be it for Favre.

[bronconick]

So, the Jets rough the kicker and hurt Jason Hanson. Nick Harris, the punter, is the holder, therefore can't kick, at least on short notice. So, who attempts the extra point?

Ndamukong Suh.

Hit the upright and missed, but goddamn if that isn't funny.

[Thomkal]

That should be it for Favre.

He get hurt again?

[Thomkal]

So, the Jets rough the kicker and hurt Jason Hanson. Nick Harris, the punter, is the holder, therefore can't kick, at least on short notice. So, who attempts the extra point?

Ndamukong Suh.

Hit the upright and missed, but goddamn if that isn't funny.

Oh man can't wait to see that on the highlight shows lol

[Thomkal]

Man Miami missing out on multiple opportunities to get back in the game against Baltimore-a should have been an INT run back for a TD (was dropped) and now a missed FG by the "hot" kicker Carpenter

[mckerney]

Arizona has the 29th ranked run defense, but Adrian Peterson has just 10 carries through 3 quarters. Harvin's effort in practice is probably to blame for being down 14 though.

[Alan T]

I guess I was hoping a little too unrealistically that Carolina might have had a chance of upsetting the Saints today.

[jbergey22]

Atleast Childress is going out in style. Its very possible he has messed this situation up so badly he will never be offered another head coaching job.

[mckerney]

Atleast Childress is going out in style. Its very possible he has messed this situation up so badly he will never be offered another <s>head</s> coaching job.

Fix'd.

[Abe Sargent]

Atleast Childress is going out in style. Its very possible he has messed this situation up so badly he will never be offered another blow job.

Double FIXED

[airulf]

Welker hits the xtra-point and kicks off also

[sovereignstar v2]

Favre streak ends next week. And not because of injury. Wow is this team embarrassing.

[Bearcat729]

Yeah for Peyton Hillis!!

[airulf]

Pats have no answer for Hillis today

[MJ4H]

Peyton Hillis.

Don't really need to say anything else.

[airulf]

Game over, Hoyer in for Brady. Picked off on his second play.

[cmp]

Brett Favre interception time?

[cmp]

Brett Favre interception time?

Or not.

[Greyroofoo]

Love Cleveland beating New England.

[bulletsponge]

can favre please just go away. now were going to have to hear more circle jerking over him

[Thomkal]

*sighs* at Arizona

[Thomkal]

Hey Fox, Saints lead 34-3...I think its safe to move on to a game that's you know...actually close?

[bulletsponge]

can favre please just go away. now were going to have to hear more circle jerking over him

and take that baboon childress with you

[bulletsponge]

i hope the LOLions beat the jets

[jbergey22]

WTF is going on? Suddenly the Vikings have a pass rush again.

[miami_fan]

WTF is going on? Suddenly the Vikings have a pass rush again.

I am praying for them save Chilly's job.

[bulletsponge]

detroit trying to lose

[bulletsponge]

I am praying for them save Chilly's job.

you evil bastard :devil: :rant:

[Greyroofoo]

How is it possible to Detroit fans to retain any faith in humanity?

[Thomkal]

keep me updated on what's happening with Cards/Vikes please since they aren't showing it here

[sovereignstar v2]

Favre streak ends next week. And not because of injury. Wow is this team embarrassing.

nm ...

[JonInMiddleGA]

keep me updated on what's happening with Cards/Vikes please since they aren't showing it here

Vikes win 27-24, Longwell 35 yd FG

[miami_fan]

you evil bastard :devil: :rant:

Not the first time I have heard that one.

[miami_fan]

Vikes win 27-24, Longwell 35 yd FG

Outstanding coaching job by Chilly. Time for another extension.

[Thomkal]

*sigh*

[BillJasper]

The refs missed the most fucking obvious hold I've ever seen in the Vikings-Cards game.

The first play after the two minute warning (pass to Petersen) Steve Hutchinson had a hold of a Cardinal and rode him about ten yards down the field.

I had to rewind and watch it again to make sure my eyes weren't tricking me!

[bulletsponge]

i feel for Lions fans

[cuervo72]

Thanks Lions for finishing the choke. Now get your sorry asses OFF OF MY LOCAL CBS AFFILIATE SO I CAN WATCH THE EAGLES GAME BECAUSE THE EFFING NFL AND DIRECTV REFUSE TO SHOW IT ON 713.

[EagleFan]

Not a bad start, would have been much better if they ended in the endzone after the pick. But if anyone said they would be up 10-0 just 5 minutes into the game I would take it.

[bronconick]

Hey, Linehan and Schwartz, you dumbfucks. When the other team has no timeouts left and it's 3rd down inside two minutes, just run the fucking ball and run 40 seconds off the clock.

[MJ4H]

GO CHIEFS

[Greyroofoo]

Hey, Linehan and Schwartz, you dumbfucks. When the other team has no timeouts left and it's 3rd down inside two minutes, just run the fucking ball and run 40 seconds off the clock.

You're acting like Schwartz could've stopped the Lions from choking.

[tucker rocky]

i feel for Lions fans

Thanks Lions for finishing the choke. Now get your sorry asses OFF OF MY LOCAL CBS AFFILIATE SO I CAN WATCH THE EAGLES GAME BECAUSE THE EFFING NFL AND DIRECTV REFUSE TO SHOW IT ON 713.

I believe Trevor Price is a wanted man in Detroit.
Had he not roughed Hansen, Detroit would've won the game.

[tucker rocky]

Patriots losing to Cleveland is comical.

I guess NE thought Cleveland was going to lay down for an easy win.

[EagleFan]

Crap, Vick looks hurt (or shaken up decently) thanks to the Colts' late hits.

[Sun Tzu]

Terrible PI call against the Raiders there...

[cuervo72]

I believe Trevor Price is a wanted man in Detroit.
Had he not roughed Hansen, Detroit would've won the game.

THEY WOULDA WON IF THEY HAD WES WELKAH!!!

I was rooting for the Lions, and it pained me a bit that they lost. While I like Rex Ryan ok, I don't *really* like the Jets all that much. This will just hype them up a bit more.

And speaking of hype...can I tell you that it is a lot nicer watching a Pats game where I don't have to listen to Jim Nantz and Phil Simms suck Tom Brady's dick for three hours? Unfortunately I'll have to listen to them fawn over Manning now...

[RomaGoth]

How is it possible to Detroit fans to retain any faith in humanity?

We gave up on humanity in the 80's-90's, especially after the Ford family fucked up Barry Sanders' career and promised that Scott effing Mitchell was the second coming of any good QB.

Oh yeah, and when Andre Ware, Joey Harrington, Mike Williams, and Charles Rogers were drafted.

Detroit Lions = :(

[cuervo72]

Also, the Eagles are going to regret having to settle for all these FG.

[Sun Tzu]

The Chiefs are for real.

[cmp]

Seriously, can Samuel quit jumping and down when Collie is out on the ground right next to him. Classless. He can be pissed about the call but there is no need for that.

[tucker rocky]

Colts running out of receivers, Collie down after a helmet to helmet.

[Fonzie]

Seriously, can Samuel quit jumping and down when Collie is out on the ground right next to him. Classless. He can be pissed about the call but there is no need for that.

Yeah, that was extraordinarily tasteless.

[Neuqua]

Scary sight.

[Greyroofoo]

It's amazing how popular Collie had become in such a short time. I hope he's alright :(

[zums]

Can the Eagles not challenge there? Looked like a pretty clear catch and fumble with an obvious Eagle recovery.....

[Greyroofoo]

I'm surprised the Colts didn't wait for the 2-minute warning.

[Greyroofoo]

Can the Eagles not challenge there? Looked like a pretty clear catch and fumble with an obvious Eagle recovery.....

They can't challenge w/o a time out right?

[sabotai]

They can't challenge w/o a time out right?

Not sure if the call was challengable, but yes, if a team is out of time outs they can not challenge anything.

[zums]

They can't challenge w/o a time out right?

yep, you're right - didnt realize they were out

big turn of events there

[cuervo72]

Can the Eagles not challenge there? Looked like a pretty clear catch and fumble with an obvious Eagle recovery.....

Agreed, but the penalty would have negated the turnover.

The hit...I don't know what you do about that. Defender stayed on his feet, didn't launch...just happened to make hth contact (on yeah, a WR who DID catch the ball). Results were horrible, but it seems a lot cleaner than what Harrison does or the Merriweather hit.

[EagleFan]

What a BS all on that play. I hope the player is alright but that call was only made because of the injury.

[zums]

Also, the Eagles are going to regret having to settle for all these FG.

agreed

[Buccaneer]

My son, the football fanatic, just came down and said he is sick about the collision injuries in the NFL. He has officially made college football "less injuries, more excitement" his favorite sport. I told him that the NFL will likely go to 18 games and he just shakes his head. But I also told him that many loves the gladiator aspect of the sport - just have them beat each other up, they're replaceable.

[EagleFan]

Agreed, but the penalty would have negated the turnover.

The hit...I don't know what you do about that. Defender stayed on his feet, didn't launch...just happened to make hth contact (on yeah, a WR who DID catch the ball). Results were horrible, but it seems a lot cleaner than what Harrison does or the Merriweather hit.

There was nothing wrong with any of the hits. The problem is that one defender hit the receiver and knocked him into the other defender, then he slammed his head on the ground which compounded things.

[larrymcg421]

I'm surprised the Colts didn't wait for the 2-minute warning.

I guess they were using NBA strategy and going for a two-for-one opportunity.

[Greyroofoo]

I guess they were using NBA strategy and going for a two-for-one opportunity.

Looks like it might work out that way, I guess that's why I'm not a NFL coach.

[Greyroofoo]

My son, the football fanatic, just came down and said he is sick about the collision injuries in the NFL. He has officially made college football "less injuries, more excitement" his favorite sport. I told him that the NFL will likely go to 18 games and he just shakes his head. But I also told him that many loves the gladiator aspect of the sport - just have them beat each other up, they're replaceable.

Yeah, people love the violence but hate the injuries. It's like how politicians like cutting taxes/increase spending but want to eliminate the budget deficit.

[Greyroofoo]

And the Colts are very likely to go into halftime with a lead.

[kingfc22]

The Chiefs are for real.

And the Raiders are phony.

I love how everybody was talking about their resurgence after beating *drum roll please* Seattle and Denver. Whoop di do.

[cuervo72]

And the Colts are very likely to go into halftime with a lead.

Surprised they didn't score another TD, actually. Strikes me as a game that finishes 41-23, Colts.

[Radii]

Yeah, but it's fucking Cleveland. I hate fucking Cleveland. I wish them an eternity of misfortune and suffering.

So the past 50 years in all sports... not enough eh?

[tucker rocky]

Horrible running into the kicker call against the Eagles, only 5 yds and a rekick.

[EagleFan]

Horrible running into the kicker call against the Eagles, only 5 yds and a rekick.

At least they didn't give him the 15 yarder on that one; I think I may have lost it at that point.

[cougarfreak]

And the Raiders are phony.

I love how everybody was talking about their resurgence after beating *drum roll please* Seattle and Denver. Whoop di do.

You know what's scary? Look at the rest of the Chiefs schedule. It's god awful. They don't play a decent team all year outside of San Diego, and calling them decent may be a stretch.

[Sun Tzu]

...and here come the Raiders...

[Matthean]

The Chiefs are for real.

And the Raiders are phony.

Heh.

[tucker rocky]

Hey Eagles, forward towards the GL, not backwards towards your own GL.

[mauchow]

All right! Field goal time for the Eagles?

edit: really, reid, challenging that?

[tucker rocky]

Eagles need a TD here, FG's don't cut it against Manning.

[DaddyTorgo]

So the past 50 years in all sports... not enough eh?

Nope!

[tucker rocky]

What are the odds of back to back plays being reviewed?

Reid's challenge was dumb.
Caldwell's challenge will be overturned.

[sabotai]

Doesn't look like Vick got in to me.

[sabotai]

In the end, it didn't matter.

[tucker rocky]

I guess Eaglefan can relate to that fan in the stands.

[sabotai]

This has been ugly, ugly game so far between the Colts and Eagles.

[Sun Tzu]

Hell of a catch there by Ford.

[tucker rocky]

Andy Reid, punt, pass, kick?

He was a big boy already back then.

[Big Fo]

He had like two feet and a hundred pounds on the kid just behind him in line.

[cuervo72]

That couldn't have been all the same age group.

[mauchow]

Man, I do not agree with that call/rule when it's that weak.

[sabotai]

Peyton Manning sure could use some receivers that could catch.

[cuervo72]

Yeah, don't DARE call that hold though.

[tucker rocky]

Another horrible penalty.
Are they serious that was roughness?!?

[mauchow]

Another horrible penalty.
Are they serious that was roughness?!?

Yeah, it's crazy. The stick of the gloves is what made it look bad. If the guy was bare-handed it would have brushed his helmet with no stick making the helmet turn. Poor Eagles. But lets get Brown the ball so I can get some more points please.

edit: screw that, why is d brown not getting that hand off!? lol

[mauchow]

I thought all logic would say to call the timeouts RIGHT away. Make the other coach make a decision on the 3rd down to pass or not. No reason to let 30+ seconds slip away even if they did get a 1st down. Not sure I agree with no timeout there.

[kingfc22]

The officials in the KC/OAK have been horrendous.

[yacovfb]

Gotta love NFL Game Center:

3-47-OAK 22 (:07) S.Janikowski 96 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-J.Condo, Holder-S.Lechler.

Maybe Lane Kiffin knew what he was doing when he had him attempt a 76 yarder :P

[tucker rocky]

Gotta love NFL Game Center:

3-47-OAK 22 (:07) S.Janikowski 96 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-J.Condo, Holder-S.Lechler.

Maybe Lane Kiffin knew what he was doing when he had him attempt a 76 yarder :P

With a Madden cheat?

[kingfc22]

And the Raiders are phony.

I love how everybody was talking about their resurgence after beating *drum roll please* Seattle and Denver. Whoop di do.

Well got to give it to them. KC wasted a bunch of the chances at the end of the first half and the second half kickoff return really got Oakland started.

[Danny]

DAAAA RAIDERSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[jbergey22]

The Raiders are back! Nice win.

[mauchow]

Man I wish Zygi would just fire Childress already. All these articles are floating around that he could be fired regardless of a win today. Just do it already, please! PLEASE!

[Neuqua]

I miss jbmagic :(

[Danny]

Jacoby Ford is my hero

[Sun Tzu]

Dedrick Dodge is my hero

[Lathum]

What a game today!

Qwest was loud as hell and the Giants came out and stepped on heir throats early. Giants looked like a super bowl team today, be it against an inept Seattle team.l

[Dr. Sak]

What a game today!

Qwest was loud as hell and the Giants came out and stepped on heir throats early. Giants looked like a super bowl team today, be it against an inept Seattle team.l

When I was at Qwest last year for a game against the Bucs I was so surprised how loud that place got. The stadium wasn't even sold out and it was loud. Glad you got to see your team win.

[EagleFan]

That was THE BEST line he ever uttered.... "I wonder if Jerry's thinking about doing a leap himself..."

[spleen1015]

Dallas is terrible. Offense. Defense. Coaching.

Just terrible.

and that is AWESOME!

[Lathum]

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Dallas uses their last TO to try and stop the clock before the 2 minute warning, then have no timeouts left to challenge on a play that is no doubt overturned by the booth, yet it was before two minutes thanks to the TO called by Dallas.

LOL.

[SirFozzie]

How bout them Cowboys. Yeesh

[Suburban Rhythm]

Gotta love NFL Game Center:

3-47-OAK 22 (:07) S.Janikowski 96 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-J.Condo, Holder-S.Lechler.

Maybe Lane Kiffin knew what he was doing when he had him attempt a 76 yarder :P

Saw this as well...I saved a screen shot, not sure how to post here

Also, the prior play was a -27 yard pass, according to CBS. Guess that is why they had no choice but to kick the 96 yarder.

[Matthean]

Can the rest of the league just put a "W" in the win column for the rest of the year for whoever plays Dallas? This is a collective "screw you" by the whole team and once the team quits it's over.

[Scoobz0202]

About the only positive for a Cowboys fan is watching Dez Bryant get better and better.

[stevew]

I love seeing the Cowboys get turned out like bitches.

[stevew]

Nice tackling there on Jones....lololololol

[stevew]

Mike Jenkins

[sabotai]

Well there's a GB defender that might be missing next week's game.

[stevew]

Okay, as much as I like seeing Roy E. Williams getting his ass kicked, they need to toss the guy from Green Bay who made that hit.

[Abe Sargent]

Its a good game when teh Cowboys get their asses handed to them

[EagleFan]

I love seeing the Cowboys get turned out like bitches.

+1111111111111111111111111111111111111111111

[Lathum]

This is fun

[stevew]

Wade has to get fired, right?

Surely he can't survive the week.

[Comey]

How does Wade Phillips get up to go to work tomorrow?

I'd guess there are two coaching changes tomorrow...one fired, one resigns.

[Buccaneer]

About the only positive for a Cowboys fan is watching Dez Bryant get better and better.

Uh-huh (re: terrible punt return attempt)

[Lathum]

Wade has to get fired, right?

Surely he can't survive the week.

Coaches just don't get fired in mid season. There have been rumors these guys survive into next season because of the looming lock out.

[stevew]

They could fire Phillips and promote a coordinator.

[stevew]

Uh-huh (re: terrible punt return attempt)

That was horrible.

[jbergey22]

Coaches just don't get fired in mid season. There have been rumors these guys survive into next season because of the looming lock out.

Normally this is the case

However the Cowboys have a new stadium they need to sell out and the Vikings fans are close to a riot if Chilly isnt gone soon. The Vikings transition would actually be simple as they have a solid candidate on their staff already.

Disclaimer I still dislike Chilly and think he is terrible as a coach however just reading some of the comments after the game puts him in a no win situation. He kicks the FG against New England last week and people would have called him a pussy. Instead he went for it and didnt make it and hes an idiot. Today people are pissed that AP was ignored for much of the game after people bitching about how he is too conservative all week. Hes just in a situation right now where he can only be wrong.

[bhlloy]

Well, at least we get to see what Stephen McGee looks like the rest of the season right? Might as well see if he can out-Romo Romo (meaning coming from nowhere to being a viable QB option, not choking in every big game imaginable)

If there is a lockout next year do the Cowboys hold onto their high draft pick or is the NFL planning to do what the NHL did and give every team a shot at a lottery? That would just make this entire situation funnier if the impending lockout means they finish out the season with a lame duck head coach and they don't even get a decent draft pick out of it.

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

man this press conference is brutal. wade looks like he's gonna cry.

[Mustang]

Chilly is like George Costanza right now. Except that instead of dragging the World Series trophy behind the car he is dragging Favre behind the car.

[McSweeny]

Chilly is like George Costanza right now. Except that instead of dragging the World Series trophy behind the car he is dragging Favre behind the car.

:lol:

[Lathum]

man this press conference is brutal. wade looks like he's gonna cry.

he always looks like that, dude just comes off as a simpleton.

[tucker rocky]

It was the seventh of November, and all through the land... The Cowboys and Packers game was at hand. The Cowboys kept sucking, like they usually do... Brandon Jackson says they bit off, more than they could chew. Rodgers kept running, against this crappy D... the Cowboys kept letting him burn their crappy team. The Cowboys barely touched the freaking ball, as far as possessions, the Packers had them all.

Kitna, the veteran, sucks more than McGee. He loves to throw footballs, to the other team... This team is antique, so they say... they can't come off their stances, they can't find their way.

Even with amazing field position, they ruin the play. This is not their night, no this is not their day. It's Lambeau field, and the night is cold. This Dallas Cowboys Football team is growing old. The linemen are aging, and Kitna stinks. Way to let GB better their chances at rings. The Cowboys have lost, again and again. They were pummeled this time, and punched in the chins.

[Peregrine]

Wade has to get fired, right?

Surely he can't survive the week.

Peter King was calling for him to be fired in MMQB after last week's game, so I figure the calls get a lot louder after another debacle this week.

[Senator]

I get a kick out of all you Dallas haters. You guys are the funny. Makes going through these losses kind of worth it.

[miami_fan]

Really, the best NFL coaches can do for a backup plan when the kicker gets hurt is a DT and WR? I am not saying that teams should waste a spot on a second kicker but come on. The punter should at least be able to put an extra point through and don't tell me that only one person can handle the placement of a FG attempt on a team. For all the planning teams do, this just seem like an area that could/should have a better backup plan.

[Sun Tzu]

It was the seventh of November, and all through the land... The Cowboys and Packers game was at hand. The Cowboys kept sucking, like they usually do... Brandon Jackson says they bit off, more than they could chew. Rodgers kept running, against this crappy D... the Cowboys kept letting him burn their crappy team. The Cowboys barely touched the freaking ball, as far as possessions, the Packers had them all.

Kitna, the veteran, sucks more than McGee. He loves to throw footballs, to the other team... This team is antique, so they say... they can't come off their stances, they can't find their way.

Even with amazing field position, they ruin the play. This is not their night, no this is not their day. It's Lambeau field, and the night is cold. This Dallas Cowboys Football team is growing old. The linemen are aging, and Kitna stinks. Way to let GB better their chances at rings. The Cowboys have lost, again and again. They were pummeled this time, and punched in the chins.

This was fantastic. Bravo

[Suburban Rhythm]

Interesting note in today's Post Gazette:

Ochocinco has never had a 100 yard receiving game against a defense coahced by Dick Lebeau.

[Passacaglia]

So, the Jets rough the kicker and hurt Jason Hanson. Nick Harris, the punter, is the holder, therefore can't kick, at least on short notice. So, who attempts the extra point?

Ndamukong Suh.

Hit the upright and missed, but goddamn if that isn't funny.

Okay, that is funny, but seriously? Nick Harris couldn't kick the extra point because they couldn't find someone else to catch the call and stick his finger on top of it? That job was too important, so might as well get someone else to kick it? That sounds completely insane to me.

[Passacaglia]

Hey, Linehan and Schwartz, you dumbfucks. When the other team has no timeouts left and it's 3rd down inside two minutes and your backup QB is in, just run the fucking ball and run 40 seconds off the clock.

Fixed. I saw the play, but didn't realized Stafford was out then until someone told me later. Geez.

[Passacaglia]

Really, the best NFL coaches can do for a backup plan when the kicker gets hurt is a DT and WR? I am not saying that teams should waste a spot on a second kicker but come on. The punter should at least be able to put an extra point through and don't tell me that only one person can handle the placement of a FG attempt on a team. For all the planning teams do, this just seem like an area that could/should have a better backup plan.

Right. I think it's pretty stupid to have the punter be the holder anyway -- I'd rather have a backup QB in there for fakes or in case something wacky happens.

[stevew]

It reminds me of when James Harrison had to long snap, and ended up contributing to a loss vs the Giants.

I'm saddened that Stafford keeps getting hurt. Stafford to CJ was going to be worth spending the next 5-10 thanksgivings with.

[Lathum]

I get a kick out of all you Dallas haters. You guys are the funny. Makes going through these losses kind of worth it.

I'm a Giants fan, I have to hate the.

I did root for the Rangers in the World Series FWIW.

[stevew]

Suh missing that extra point had to make someone lose a fantasy game.

[Lathum]

I think it would be awesome if the Cowboys lose next week, then win out to finish at 8-8 and get the 16th pick in the draft.

[Suburban Rhythm]

Suh missing that extra point had to make someone lose a fantasy game.


I wonder if he'll have K eligibility next week.

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

I get a kick out of all you Dallas haters. You guys are the funny. Makes going through these losses kind of worth it.
i don't hate the cowboys. in fact after the marlins stuff i have a lot more respect for teams that reinvest in their franchise (and conversely a lot more suspicious of teams that are 'just scraping by')

that said they're the ultimate bandwagon team and easy to resent. doesn't a day go by when i don't see a car on the road with dueling cowboys/yankees bumper stickers.

[Rizon]

Why not go for 2 points. I'd think your chances are better going for 2 instead of having someone named Suh try to kick.

[Suburban Rhythm]

Why not go for 2 points. I'd think your chances are better going for 2 instead of having someone named Suh try to kick.

Someone probably said the same thing about the name Igwebuike 25 or so years ago.

[RedKingGold]

Why not go for 2 points. I'd think your chances are better going for 2 instead of having someone named Suh try to kick.

Absolutely and I thought the same thing.

I think having Suh kick was a bigger bonehead decision than giving Stanton the option to pass on 3rd down with under 2 minutes.

[molson]

They must have though he gave them a 90% chance or better. He wasn't thrown out there randomly, he is apparently the backup kicker and kicks extra points at practice.

[Celeval]

They must have though he gave them a 90% chance or better. He wasn't thrown out there randomly, he is apparently the backup kicker and kicks extra points at practice.

He played soccer in HS, iirc, and was supposedly pretty good.

[Mustang]

Why not go for 2 points. I'd think your chances are better going for 2 instead of having someone named Suh try to kick.

Wasn't the kicker roughed on the XP attempt? Once you've made the attempt, can you change your mind and go for 2?

[larrymcg421]

Wasn't the kicker roughed on the XP attempt? Once you've made the attempt, can you change your mind and go for 2?

I don't see why not. I mean, if the kick is blocked, but you managed to grab the ball and get it in the endzone, that counts as two.

[jbergey22]

I get a kick out of all you Dallas haters. You guys are the funny. Makes going through these losses kind of worth it.

Lots of hate in this forum. If its not Favre its the Cowboys, if its not the Cowboys it Moss, if its not Moss its the Pats, if its not the Pats its the Philly fans. I guess its much easier to kick someone when they are down.

[Lathum]

Lots of hate in this forum. If its not Favre its the Cowboys, if its not the Cowboys it Moss, if its not Moss its the Pats, if its not the Pats its the Philly fans. I guess its much easier to kick someone when they are down.

If you think there is lots of hate on this forum you don't spend much time on the interwebs.

[jbergey22]

If you think there is lots of hate on this forum you don't spend much time on the interwebs.

Yeah I probably should have worded that differently. Its actually a pretty decent place other than hearing Favre comments every Sunday and having HiFi around.

Point still remains though. The Raiders are looking as good as they have in 7-8 years and we'd rather talk about how crappy the Cowboys are.

[MikeVic]

Raiders looking good in preseason.

[MikeVic]

And what's the bigger story, cocky obnoxious Jerry Jones being served with a crappy team that should not be this crappy due to the talent they seemingly have? Or the Raiders doing decent, perhaps because they don't have JaMarcus there anymore?

The Cowboys were supposed to be a Super Bowl-contending team and right now they're one of the worst in the league. The Raiders have had decent defense the last few years I think and with an OK QB are winning a couple more games, but are not Super Bowl contenders. What's the bigger story?

[jbergey22]

And what's the bigger story, cocky obnoxious Jerry Jones being served with a crappy team that should not be this crappy due to the talent they seemingly have? Or the Raiders doing decent, perhaps because they don't have JaMarcus there anymore?

The Cowboys were supposed to be a Super Bowl-contending team and right now they're one of the worst in the league. The Raiders have had decent defense the last few years I think and with an OK QB are winning a couple more games, but are not Super Bowl contenders. What's the bigger story?

Well considering how much bashing the Raiders have taken for the past 3-4 years Id almost say them being a decent team again is pretty amazing considering Al Davis is still alive.

The Cowboys being a Super Bowl contending team was on name value and experts predicting this. I watched them live get destoyed in the playoffs last year. Personally, I never thought they were a Super Bowl contender. I think the Cowboys are a bigger story because of their reputation more than anything. The 49ers were predicted to win their division yet we dont hear about them every week.

[Noop]

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll123/ramsfan64/5092459910_69e4a46f50.jpg

[Passacaglia]

Wasn't the kicker roughed on the XP attempt? Once you've made the attempt, can you change your mind and go for 2?

Also, it was on a FG attempt. Stafford ran it in from the 1 on the next play.

[SnowMan]

That doesn't look like Pete Carroll.....

[Suburban Rhythm]

Lots of hate in this forum. If its not Favre its the Cowboys, if its not the Cowboys it Moss, if its not Moss its the Pats, if its not the Pats its the Philly fans. I guess its much easier to kick someone when they are down.

For real...how did the Eagles fans not cheer a little louder when Collie was down? I am disappointed.

[Coffee Warlord]

I love how everyone in the local media is singing the praises of a 'balanced offense' with the Bears today.

Uh, guys? Your RB's averaged 2.3 yards per carry. For 62 yards. Your QB had 40 yards rushing on his own. Against arguably the worst team in the league, certainly one of the worst rushing defenses in the league.

Quality running game this is not.

[Greyroofoo]

I love how everyone in the local media is singing the praises of a 'balanced offense' with the Bears today.

Uh, guys? Your RB's averaged 2.3 yards per carry. For 62 yards. Your QB had 40 yards rushing on his own. Against arguably the worst team in the league, certainly one of the worst rushing defenses in the league.

Quality running game this is not.

These stats are balanced against Jay Cutler mind you

[Passacaglia]

I love how everyone in the local media is singing the praises of a 'balanced offense' with the Bears today.

Uh, guys? Your RB's averaged 2.3 yards per carry. For 62 yards. Your QB had 40 yards rushing on his own. Against arguably the worst team in the league, certainly one of the worst rushing defenses in the league.

Quality running game this is not.

But they scored from the 1!!

And it looks like they averaged 2.58 yards per carry.

[bronconick]

Supposedly Suh was making 35 yard field goals in the preseason when the offense and defense would have "kicking contests"

I think the bigger question to that would be "Why would the coach of the Detroit Lions think his team is good enough to waste practice time on kicking contests"?

[Suburban Rhythm]

Listening to Pittsburgh radio station, saying Cowboys have called 5pm press conference. Not very shocking, but news nonetheless.

[flounder]

Yeah. Dallas media is reporting that Wade Phillips is out (http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2010/11/08/dallas-cowboys-coach-wade-phillips-fired/). If they could only fire their general manager, they might be on to something.

[cartman]

Yep, word is that Phillips is out and Jason Garrett has been handed the reins. That leaves a hole at both coordinator spots, since CWP was the defensive coordinator as well.

[Mustang]

I think the bigger question to that would be "Why would the coach of the Detroit Lions think his team is good enough to waste practice time on kicking contests"?

You really think that is a bigger question? I don't think these kicking contests are anything new.. I could swear the Packers do something like this too.

[Lathum]

Interesting turn of events, I guess Jerry figured he had to do something.

I don't think they get a big name coach in there unless JJ is willing to hand over control. An ego like Gruden can't occupy the same space as JJ.

[RomaGoth]

You really think that is a bigger question? I don't think these kicking contests are anything new.. I could swear the Packers do something like this too.

It is when it is the Lions. They can barely get out of their own way most of the time, so for them to waste time on offense/defense kicking contests is rather ridiculous. Kinda like Wade Phillips writing a how-to book about coaching in the NFL.

[cmp]

It is when it is the Lions. They can barely get out of their own way most of the time, so for them to waste time on offense/defense kicking contests is rather ridiculous. Kinda like Wade Phillips writing a how-to book about coaching in the NFL.

I'm sure it didn't take away from actual time spent on other areas of practice. It's just something extra.

[Mustang]

They can barely get out of their own way most of the time, so for them to waste time on offense/defense kicking contests is rather ridiculous.

The Lions have done alot over the years that is questionable, but something that is probably done for fun at the tail end of practice? Whole lotta meh.. They were probably doing it for an extra hour of curfew or some other nonsense.

[RomaGoth]

The Lions have done alot over the years that is questionable...

If you were a Lions fan this would have been worded quite differently, and involved several crappy draft picks, an incompetent GM, and questionable coaching decisions. ;)

[EagleFan]

I get a kick out of all you Dallas haters. You guys are the funny. Makes going through these losses kind of worth it.

Look at my screen name... what else am I supposed to be?

Plus when you add in the annoying bandwagon fans that team has it just makes it that much better to watch them flounder (and watch the bandwagon fans hide their Cowboys stuff).

[EagleFan]

For real...how did the Eagles fans not cheer a little louder when Collie was down? I am disappointed.

Lousy call by the refs on that one....

Even worse call by whoever makes the call to show replays at the stadium; showing replays of that play while he was still on the ground. Replaying a controversial call at that time is not the way to go, IMHO. You've got a crowd that is upset by the bad call and then getting them more upset while the guy is on the ground is not really a good idea at that point.

Now the "Manning call" late in the game; while called correctly by the "letter of the law" it was still a pretty weak call (but I can't complain about the call as much as want the rules to change a little).

[Thomkal]

Yep ESPN is reporting Wade is out and Jason Garrett in. Can Brad Childress be far behind?

[EagleFan]

I think it would be awesome if the Cowboys lose next week, then win out to finish at 8-8 and get the 16th pick in the draft.

You almost fooled me with that one and got me to +1 it. Maybe they can win next week and then lose two other games this season to finish 7-9 and still not get a top 10 pick.

[Rizon]

Hasn't Jason Garrett been groomed for this job for like the last 15 years?

[EagleFan]

He's done such a great job with the play calling?