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GoldenEagle
04-20-2003, 10:37 PM
Ok, so my brother started a Hattrick team at my advice (an im trying to talk my girlfriend into too), but he wants to seel his best player and dosen't know how much he would fetch. Opinions please.

Michael Childress
128 000 US$, 26 years, weak form
Has weak experience and inadequate leadership abilities

Stamina: solid Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: wretched Passing: solid
Winger: passable Defending: weak
Scoring: inadequate Set Pieces: weak

Masked
04-20-2003, 11:10 PM
I really don't think he is worth much.

Not a good winger, because of the wretched playmaking, not a good forward because of the inadequate scoring, and too old to train.

Starting this player with a minimum of 0 probably will not net you much. I have had some sucess starting players with high assessed values with high minimums and getting one person to bite. I have had to relist multiple times in some cases.

With Childress, you could try listed him at $60K and see if someone takes him. You can always relist him much lower a second time, and only lose the 1000 listing fee.

astralhaze
04-20-2003, 11:12 PM
I wouldn't buy him.

condors
04-21-2003, 06:53 AM
if he was 17 or 18 i would pay for him but not at 26

Bee
04-21-2003, 07:11 AM
I've seen similar guys go for around $20k or so. You might get lucky and get someone who misses the age and overbids, but I wouldn't hold out hope.

Havok
04-21-2003, 09:10 AM
how about this guy???


Alan Magennis
52 000 US$, 18 years, inadequate form
Has disastrous experience and poor leadership abilities

Stamina: solid Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: inadequate Passing: poor
Winger: wretched Defending: poor
Scoring: passable Set Pieces: wretched

Marmel
04-21-2003, 09:12 AM
I have no problem with Hattrick threads, but PLEASE LABEL THEM AS SUCH IN THE THREAD TITLE

Thanks. :)

AccardoOutfit29
04-21-2003, 09:14 AM
What did you think this thread was about?

Superman=#54
04-21-2003, 09:15 AM
I think you could start the bidding on Magennis around $35,000 and maybe a few owners might get in a bidding war.

Bee
04-21-2003, 09:16 AM
I think you can probably assume any thread that's not marked otherwise is about Hattrick. :D

Bee
04-21-2003, 09:18 AM
Originally posted by Superman=#54
I think you could start the bidding on Magennis around $35,000 and maybe a few owners might get in a bidding war.

That sounds right to me too.

I've not been playing very long, but most of my time has been spent watching the transfer market. I'm not sure how much the value changes over time though (I'd assume over time as teams improve values will drop, but I don't know how fast that will happen).

Havok
04-21-2003, 10:41 AM
how about this guy :)


Pacífico Torralba
21 years, inadequate form, healthy

A sympathetic guy who is calm and honest.
Has wretched experience and inadequate leadership abilities.

Nationality: Chile
Assessed value: 42 000 US$


Stamina: inadequate Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: passable Passing: weak
Winger: inadequate Defending: weak
Scoring: wretched Set Pieces: poor

ColtCrazy
04-21-2003, 10:46 AM
Originally posted by Havok
how about this guy :)


Pacífico Torralba
21 years, inadequate form, healthy

A sympathetic guy who is calm and honest.
Has wretched experience and inadequate leadership abilities.

Nationality: Chile
Assessed value: 42 000 US$


Stamina: inadequate Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: passable Passing: weak
Winger: inadequate Defending: weak
Scoring: wretched Set Pieces: poor

My team (we just got thumped 5-0) is pretty pathetic, so I'd say some teams would be willing to go for him. Heck, he'd be an upgrade for me if I wasn't trying to buy a goalkeeper. I think my other one hurt his back picking balls up from the back of the net.

Coffee Warlord
04-21-2003, 11:10 AM
I think you guys underestimate the power of the pure winger. Passable winger/solid passing is a damned good combination. If I didn't have someone comparable, I'd take him in a heartbeat for 10-20k. He'll likely go for more.

daedalus
04-21-2003, 11:38 AM
I agree with Coffee Warlord that the guy would definitely make an acceptable winger. I wouldn't hesitate to use him as my forward, either. I have a passable passing/inadequate scoring forward who has been in double-digit goals the last two years.

daedalus
04-21-2003, 11:40 AM
Originally posted by Marmel
I have no problem with Hattrick threads, but PLEASE LABEL THEM AS SUCH IN THE THREAD TITLE

I wholeheartedly agree with this post. Yes, for someone who plays hattrick, it's very easy to tell the context of this post. But people shouldn't have to. A 'hattrick' label in the topic would be a nice simple courtesy for the non-hattrickers amongst us.

Ben E Lou
04-21-2003, 11:42 AM
Does hat-trick deserves a forum unto itself here? I ask because it sure seems that we're getting a fair number of new users because of hat-trick. It might be good to direct them somewhere. I don 't know though. I tend to liek to leave everything in the main forum for the most part, but this may deserve a forum of its own.

Jets80
04-21-2003, 11:45 AM
Not to get off the subject that you already got off of, but........
Here is a guy im thinking about selling, How much do you think I can get for him ??

Adolphe Magnen
218 000 US$, 24 years, solid form
Has wretched experience and weak leadership abilities [Powerful]

Stamina: passable Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: poor Passing: passable
Winger: solid Defending: passable
Scoring: weak Set Pieces: poor

Bee
04-21-2003, 11:53 AM
I'm against another forum. The hattrick interest will die down over time and we'll see something else take it's place. Just ride out the storm...

;)

HornedFrog Purple
04-21-2003, 12:11 PM
Originally posted by Bee
I'm against another forum. The hattrick interest will die down over time and we'll see something else take it's place. Just ride out the storm...

;)

Here are some numbers regarding why I think it would be a good idea.

We have 50 members in the FOFC Fed in hattrick. This means we have 50 people who have paid to play it. This lasts from 3 months to 12 months.

We have reached 100+ people from this board who have signed up on the hattrick list over in the dynasty forum.

I am running a FOFC Cup that has 78 teams in it. This rose from 12 from last September, and I had to make a waiting list. Only one of 70 original teams that signed up 3 weeks ago is not participating.

The dynasty forum is full of hattrick dynasties.

In my opinion it would greatly alleviate much of the traffic from this forum into the new one. It certainly would do no worse than the college football forum even at its peak season. If it fails, then close it.

We could make a FAQ, do gamedays, discuss things, make sticky for events etc. without disrupting the rest of this forum.

My two cents.

dacman
04-21-2003, 12:32 PM
If we do a seperate HT forum, could we have seperate mods just for that forum since neither Skydog and Ryan S are hattrickers to my knowledge?

I guarentee you a seperate HT forum would create A LOT more traffic than the college football one.

Ben E Lou
04-21-2003, 12:34 PM
Originally posted by dacman
If we do a seperate HT forum, could we have seperate mods just for that forum since neither Skydog and Ryan S are hattrickers to my knowledge?

I guarentee you a seperate HT forum would create A LOT more traffic than the college football one. I already have a volunteer for it. I definitely would have a separate mod. Actually, this sounds like an easy decision. I'll go against my normal thoughts and form the Hattrick Forum in the next few minutes.

Havok
04-21-2003, 12:47 PM
Not to get off the subject that you already got off of, but........
Here is a guy im thinking about selling, How much do you think I can get for him ??

Adolphe Magnen
218 000 US$, 24 years, solid form
Has wretched experience and weak leadership abilities [Powerful]

Stamina: passable Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: poor Passing: passable
Winger: solid Defending: passable
Scoring: weak Set Pieces: poor

you'd get alot for that guy..... he's an all around very good winger. i wish i had him :)

I'd say around 300k??? maybe more maybe less, im still pretty new myself

Vince
04-21-2003, 12:51 PM
Originally posted by Jets80
Not to get off the subject that you already got off of, but........
Here is a guy im thinking about selling, How much do you think I can get for him ??

Adolphe Magnen
218 000 US$, 24 years, solid form
Has wretched experience and weak leadership abilities [Powerful]

Stamina: passable Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: poor Passing: passable
Winger: solid Defending: passable
Scoring: weak Set Pieces: poor

Well, he's rather similar to the kind of player I was shopping for last night, and I was seeing prices anywhere from the $170,000's to the $250,000+ range. With his solid form, he'll probably be on the higher end of that scale.

Jets80
04-21-2003, 01:02 PM
But I thought becasue of his weak playmaking that he is "not" that good of a winger.......I dont know, Im still learning too.

Masked
04-21-2003, 02:28 PM
Originally posted by Jets80
But I thought becasue of his weak playmaking that he is "not" that good of a winger.......I dont know, Im still learning too.

Ideally, you want a winger with good playmaking, but they are very difficult to find and tend to be quite expenisive. Next best is good winger and passing. They give good wing attacks, but don't provide much help in the midfield.

A more general question about wingers. I have recently acquired two solid wingers with weak playmaking and passing skills. I got them for very low prices, far less than a passable winger with passable passing. How important is a level or two of passing relative to a level of the primary winger skill?

RonnieDobbs
04-25-2003, 12:24 PM
Instead of starting a new topic I'll put this here. Can you all chime in with what you think this guy would fetch on the market?

Stefan Andersson (10678404)
18 years, inadequate form, healthy

A pleasant guy who is balanced and upright.
Has disastrous experience and solid leadership abilities.

Nationality: Sverige
Assessed value: 35 000 US$
Wage: 768 US$/week including 20% Bonus
Owner: Boston Wyckyd Sceptre
Warnings: 0


Stamina: inadequate Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: wretched Passing: poor
Winger: poor Defending: solid
Scoring: wretched Set Pieces: poor

He just popped to solid defending. 18 yo solid defender, and an "almost clown." He's also the only guy to score a league goal for my team and has probably been my favorite player so far. I'm leaning towards making him the cornerstone of my training program, but if the $ he'll fetch is too high he's gone.

GoldenEagle
04-25-2003, 12:28 PM
I'd say at the very least $200K.

RonnieDobbs
04-25-2003, 12:30 PM
Yeah, did a quick search of what they were going for, put him up for 165K. If I get that, I'll be happy. Anything higher, and I'm ecstatic. As much as I like him, being out of debt is more important than one man.

AccardoOutfit29
04-26-2003, 07:07 PM
I figure I'll put this here instead of starting a new topic.

My recent youth pull was a solid keeper so I figure my passable keeper can now be sold. How much do you think this guy would sell for? I was thinking around $100,000 or so, maybe even less to get more interested in him. What does everyone else think?

Lionel Holton (10960937)
21 years, inadequate form, healthy

A pleasant guy who is calm and dishonest.
Has disastrous experience and poor leadership abilities.

Nationality: USA
Assessed value: 222 000 US$
Wage: 1 780 US$/week
Owner: McGees
Warnings: 0


Stamina: wretched Goaltending: passable
Playmaking: disastrous Passing: disastrous
Winger: disastrous Defending: disastrous
Scoring: disastrous Set Pieces: wretched

Havok
04-26-2003, 07:33 PM
he'll go for btw 90k-120k probally.

RonnieDobbs
04-28-2003, 12:42 PM
Stefan Andersson (10678404)
18 years, inadequate form, healthy

A pleasant guy who is balanced and upright.
Has disastrous experience and solid leadership abilities.

Nationality: Sverige
Assessed value: 35 000 US$
Wage: 768 US$/week including 20% Bonus
Owner: Boston Wyckyd Sceptre
Warnings: 0


Stamina: inadequate Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: wretched Passing: poor
Winger: poor Defending: solid
Scoring: wretched Set Pieces: poor

Didn't sell at 165K. Guess I'll keep training him up to excellent...

illinifan999
05-04-2003, 03:01 PM
How much might this guy go for?

Juan Briñas (11472519)
18 years, passable form, healthy

A controversial person who is calm and honest.
Has disastrous experience and wretched leadership abilities.


Speciality: Head

Nationality: USA
Assessed value: 174 000 US$
Wage: 1 380 US$/week
Owner: Spring Grove Fighting Eagles
Warnings: 0


Stamina: poor
goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: wretched
Passing: inadequate
Winger: poor
Defending: passable
scoring: SOLID

AccardoOutfit29
05-04-2003, 10:05 PM
What would be a good starting price for this guy, and how much would he go for?

Dale Wood (7971181)
26 years, inadequate form, healthy

A sympathetic guy who is fiery and honest.
Has poor experience and weak leadership abilities.


Speciality: Technical

Nationality: USA
Assessed value: 70 000 US$
Wage: 1 040 US$/week
Owner: McGees
Warnings: 1


Stamina: excellent Goaltending: wretched
Playmaking: poor Passing: inadequate
Winger: weak Defending: passable
Scoring: weak Set Pieces: solid

cthomer5000
05-05-2003, 08:29 AM
we should create a stickeyed "how much is this player worth?" thread..