2011 FOFC Hardcore Baseball League! (And we're off!)

[Suicane75]

Is this what they call a "run"?

[LastWhiteSoxFanStanding]

I see a trade happening in our future.

[sterlingice]

6.9 SP Fransisco Liriano, MIN

Had a coin flip here in my mind. Couldn't see the difference- I'm sure one will be better than the other at the end of the season, but I couldn't divine it now.

SI

[Ramzavail]

6.10 Jay Bruce, OF, CIN

[samifan24]

6.11 SS Jimmy Rollins, PHI

Please let him stay healthy this season.

[cubboyroy1826]

If he does you get some great value in the 6th.

[Danny]

He's a solid 6th rounder because of his position, but health isn't his only concern. Over his last 1000 AB's, he's been terribly mediocre.

[PurdueBrad]

6.12- Aramis Ramirez, 3B, Chicago sCrUBS

7.1- Mat Latos, SP, San Diego Padres

[PurdueBrad]

Edited because my bold didn't show up correctly. BTW, Roy, that grammatical error was for you. It's hard living in Chicago where everyone is a sCrUBS or White Sux fan, guh!

[LastWhiteSoxFanStanding]

Please! Everyone knows there is nothing worse than a boilerFaker fan ;)

[PurdueBrad]

Please! Everyone knows there is nothing worse than a boilerFaker fan ;)

Well-played sir! My big problem is that I've lived in ten different states so I really haven't much of the opportunity to be the "home team" fan. So it sucks to be surrounded by other fans 99.9% of the time.

[sterlingice]

Mat Latos was the other guy I was deciding between. Went with Liriano, tho.

SI

[samifan24]

7.2 3B Martin Prado, ATL

[cubboyroy1826]

Sami you freakin dog. You took one of my favorite fantasy players.

[Ramzavail]

FWIW, I was about to take Prado.

[sterlingice]

I was *not* about to take Prado!

(But that's only because I have no idea who I'm about to take so I'm also hitting the lists)

SI

[Ramzavail]

7.3 Chris Carpenter, SP, STL

I guess I'll gamble and hope the hammy is OK.

[Danny]

We got a chance for a run here

[sterlingice]

7.4 1B Billy Butler, KC

Weighing a couple of people from teams I don't like and went with bombing the season from the team I do :(

SI

[sterlingice]

I'm sure the other two I was strongly debating will be gone shortly.

Yahoo and sheet updated thru 7.4

SI

[Danny]

7.5 1B Kendrys Morales

[sterlingice]

That was one of the two...

SI

[sterlingice]

Danny, if you had a choice between both, would you have gone Morales still?

SI

[Danny]

Yes, though it was close. I think if this was 5x5 it's a tossup, but Morales should post a better OPS giving him the overall edge for the extra two categories. Of course, he has the greater health concern.

[Danny]

SO overall, I think Butler is the more safe choice, but Morales has a potential greater reward. I think both are solid picks though.

[Danny]

LWSFS, you going to be the first one to blink? ;)

[samifan24]

Sami you freakin dog. You took one of my favorite fantasy players.

FWIW, I was about to take Prado.

I'm glad I took him when I did because I didn't think he'd still be around at my next pick. :D

[Danny]

We got people here through the 10th pick of the round right now, nice!

[sterlingice]

SO overall, I think Butler is the more safe choice, but Morales has a potential greater reward. I think both are solid picks though.

That was my thought, too- Morales had higher upside but higher volatility whereas I kindof knew what I was getting with Butler and, at worst or best, might be pleasantly surprised or slightly underwhelmed.

Wow- 9 in the thread right now

SI

[Danny]

You made the choice very easy though, so thanks :)

[cubboyroy1826]

I will be around or another couple hours and then I have to head out till about 5.

[LastWhiteSoxFanStanding]

7.6 3b Pedro Alvarez

I blinked first.

[cubboyroy1826]

7.7 SP Chad Billingsley

[CleBrownsfan]

7.8 Shane Victorino cf

[Travis]

7.9 - SS - Alexei Ramirez - CWS

[LastWhiteSoxFanStanding]

Cuban Missle!! Good pick.

[Suicane75]

7.10 CF Drew Stubbs

[MizzouRah]

7.11 2B Kelly Johnson

Forgot to put 7.11

[samifan24]

Maybe we can get another round done if everyone checks the thread tonight

[cubboyroy1826]

I will be here but that is nothing new.

[sterlingice]

I'm filling out brackets and playing Pokemon, so, in short- not much going on.

SI

[cubboyroy1826]

Pokemon really SI? Which version?

[Danny]

Yeah, we need to get back around so I can not draft a pitcher again :)

[sterlingice]

Pokemon really SI? Which version?

Black- you may notice me in the Nintendo DS thread as the resident Nintendo fanboy ;)

SI

[PurdueBrad]

Maybe we can get another round done if everyone checks the thread tonight

I'll be around until about 11 pm CST so I'm hoping to make a couple picks as well.

[cubboyroy1826]

So is the next pick due by 10:18 or does anything after 10 move to the next morning?

[sterlingice]

(It's 6 hours so it would be 11:18) But, if no pick is made, the next one is slotted for 9am tomorrow morning. Typically, the last weekend we tighten those rules up a bit because we're getting down to the wire but, for now, the weekends are more relaxed, assuming people have more to do.

Of course, if someone (or multiple people) make(s) a pick overnight, then the next one is due at 10am.

SI

[cubboyroy1826]

Okay cool.

[PackerFanatic]

Sorry I wasn't around this aft guys...spent some quality time with the fam since I am going to be gone for most of this week :) Getting my picks in now!

[PackerFanatic]

7.12 - 3B Michael Young, TEX
8.1 - SP Max Scherzer, DET

[Danny]

And there goes the only pitcher I would have taken with my next pick, more hitters for me!

[sterlingice]

Yahoo and sheet updated thru 8.1

SI

[PackerFanatic]

I must admit, I will be closely following LWSFS' team this year to see if this strategy of all pitchers pays off... :)

[sterlingice]

Site was down- MizzouRah contacted me and said he will check again once he gets to work.

With the site down, I'd give him a little grace period. I emailed him that it was back up so let's say 11am

SI

[MizzouRah]

8.2 CL Brian Wilson

[cubboyroy1826]

And the first closer is off the board. Do we see a run here?

[MizzouRah]

And the first closer is off the board. Do we see a run here?

I figured it was time. :)

[sterlingice]

"RP" I wondered what those were on the board ;)

SI

[Suicane75]

8.3 2B Chase Utley

Sometimes you gotta roll the dice.

[cubboyroy1826]

I was wondering when someone would pickup Utley. May be a big reward for taking the plunge. I kept trying to find info on his status.

[Travis]

8.4 - 3B - Mark Reynolds - BAL

[Suicane75]

In my gut i'm worried he wont be playing much this year. But if miracles happen I'll have a stud second basemen and a supermodel wife.

[cubboyroy1826]

Well see you have that going for you.

[CleBrownsfan]

8.5 Grady Sizemore CF

Homer pick but could end up being a solid pick here if he returns healthy from knee surgery.

[sterlingice]

I was wondering when someone would pickup Utley. May be a big reward for taking the plunge. I kept trying to find info on his status.

Same, here. I was trying to weigh (% of Utley's season) * (% of Utley's stud production) * (Production) > (Current Pick)

If he's only out for a couple of weeks and he plays at 90%, then you just got 2nd round production for a 9th round cost. But it seems like there's a chance that (% of Utley's season) = 0, in which case Billy Butler definitely outweighs him. But I had him on my list the last couple of rounds and was considering him.

SI

[cubboyroy1826]

8.6 SS Stephen Drew

[sterlingice]

Yahoo and sheet updated thru 8.6

SI

[LastWhiteSoxFanStanding]

8.7 Mike Stanton RF

I always think of the relief pitcher's 1990 donruss card whenever I hear his name. I must have had a million of those

[LastWhiteSoxFanStanding]

I must admit, I will be closely following LWSFS' team this year to see if this strategy of all pitchers pays off... :)

With the way I picked hitters last year, I figured I would be no worse off.

[Danny]

8.8 BJ Upton CF

[cubboyroy1826]

Damn Danny you dog. By the way SP stands for starting pitcher not special people.

[Danny]

haha, I'll have to get me some of those sometime ;)

[Danny]

But you guys have to stop leaving me hitters I can't pass up

[Danny]

I just realized I am not the only team with no pitchers.

[sterlingice]

8.9 CF Curtis Granderson, NYY

SI

[Ramzavail]

8.10 Brett Anderson, SP, OAK

[Danny]

We got a chance for a run again with sami and PB here.

[samifan24]

8.11 OF Chris Young, AZ

[PurdueBrad]

8.12- Delmon Young, LF, MIN
9.1- Clay Bucholz, SP, BOS

[samifan24]

9.2 SP Wandy Rodriguez, HOU

[Danny]

And I win!

[sterlingice]

Am I the only one who hoped slightly that Michael Young would fall so we could have him, Delmon, and Chris make up a "Young Run"?

SI

[sterlingice]

Yahoo and sheet updated thru 9.2

SI

[sterlingice]

Also, anyone else slightly disappointed that LWSFS's first two non-pitchers were Pedro Alvarez and Mike Stanton? I was expecting something like "Barry Bonds out of retirement" and "The Ghost of Babe Ruth"! And Wandy to be the first pitcher for samifan? It's like breaking a fast for a rice cake rather than a Brazillian BBQ.

Same goes for you, too, Danny and Suicane. I'm expecting something more than "Uh, I need a pitcher so Jorge De La Rosa, you're the best of the crap that's left!" It'd better be like "I have an inside scoop that Strasburg is coming back this year!! AND HE HAS A BIONIC ARM!!1!"

SI

[LastWhiteSoxFanStanding]

To be honest, I wanted to go Pedro Cerrano with my first hitter pick. But I heard too many reports that he was having trouble with the curveball so I went alvarez instead.

[sterlingice]

Sacrificing a live chicken might not be good for your fantasy clubhouse

SI

[sterlingice]

Well, I have 3 on my list and only 2 to go. Tho I do prefer one over the other two.

SI

[Ramzavail]

9.3 Carlos Marmol, RP, CHC

[sterlingice]

9.4 RF Nick Markakis, Bal

My preferred of the 3 I had atop my list (all OFs, strangely)

SI

[cubboyroy1826]

Come on Danny giddy up and pick a hitter.

[sterlingice]

I mean, he was just staring at it. And, well, you can't guess if one of us might go hitter or pitcher- it turns out we might go either way- we were right there ;)

SI

[Danny]

You ready?

9.5 Elvis Andrus SS

[cubboyroy1826]

Ooooooo!!!! Elvis has left the board.

[Danny]

Here's hoping he can slug like his 1st year and not hurt my team too bad there. He should improve

[samifan24]

9.4 RF Nick Markakis, Bal

My preferred of the 3 I had atop my list (all OFs, strangely)

SI

Nick Markakis will only let you down.

[cubboyroy1826]

Figure waiting on that darn White Sox fan.

[LastWhiteSoxFanStanding]

Sorry. I was busy watching my 2005 white sox world series DVDs:p

9.6 Gordon beckham 2b

[cubboyroy1826]

9.7 2b/OF/1B Ben Zobrist

[cubboyroy1826]

Very good response Soxfan.

[sterlingice]

Yahoo and sheet updated thru 9.7

SI

[sterlingice]

Nick Markakis will only let you down.

I suppose- but I think I have fair expectations. I need him to help boost my BA and OBP and just a little power. I think expecting 25 HR is folly but .300/.370/.450 with 15 HR is reasonable.

SI

[sterlingice]

PackerFanatic hit me up with a list so could someone PM me when he's up. I probably won't be able to check the board that much today but I can keep email up and post when it's his turn

SI

[CleBrownsfan]

9.8 Heath Bell RP

[Travis]

9.9 - RP - Mariano Rivera - NYY

[Suicane75]

9.10 3B Pablo Sandoval

[MizzouRah]

9.11 CF Colby Rasmus

[Danny]

Did someone make sure to pm SI?

[Suicane75]

I pm'd him right after mizzou picked.

[sterlingice]

From PackerFanatic's list

9.12 RP Joakim Soria, KC
10.01 C Matt Wieters, Bal

SI

[sterlingice]

I pm'd him right after mizzou picked.

Thx for the head's up

SI

[Danny]

And the closer run has officially begun.

[LastWhiteSoxFanStanding]

Or if this was star wars, "Begun, the closer run has."

[MizzouRah]

10.2 1B Paul Konerko

[Suicane75]

10.3 SP Jonathan Sanchez

[Travis]

10.4 - RP - Neftali Feliz - TEX

[CleBrownsfan]

10.5 C Geovany Soto

[cubboyroy1826]

10.6 C Kurt Suzuki

[LastWhiteSoxFanStanding]

10.7 RF Carlos Quentin

[cubboyroy1826]

Building a White Sox team there huh?

[Danny]

10.8 Shaun Marcum

Can someone pm si for me?

[Danny]

10.8 Shaun Marcum

Can someone pm si for me?

[LastWhiteSoxFanStanding]

I reached there, didn't I

[cubboyroy1826]

Not if he can stay healthy learn to relax a little bit.

Done Danny.

[samifan24]

Shouldn't we have had two picks by now?

[Suicane75]

SI still has a couple of hours.

[Danny]

Wow, the commish is holding things up now!

[sterlingice]

Yahoo updated thru 10.8- looking at my pick now

SI

[cubboyroy1826]

Slacker.:)

[sterlingice]

10.9 C Mike Napoli, Tex

I'm going to get to updating the sheet now, too

SI

[sterlingice]

Slacker.:)

Well, so I was talking to my boss today but then was like "Oh, crap, my fantasy draft" and he was really cool about me-- wait, that never happened ;)

SI

[cubboyroy1826]

Very nice SI. Hey you took my guy!! Damn I really wanted the Napster.

[sterlingice]

Yahoo and sheet updated thru 10.9

SI

[Ramzavail]

christ, all i wanted was a catcher.

[PurdueBrad]

Could be a real nice run with the next six pickers here in Ram, Sami, me and then reverse.

[Danny]

And me and SI around, lets get the run going!

[samifan24]

christ, all i wanted was a catcher.

Ryan Doumit is still available.

[cubboyroy1826]

There are some decent options out there still.

[Ramzavail]

10.10 Madison Bumgarner, SP, SFG

[sterlingice]

That's not a catcher

SI

[samifan24]

10.11 OF Corey Hart, MIL

[PurdueBrad]

Alright, here goes:

10.12 RF Vlad Guerrero, BAL
11.1 SP Ted Lilly, LA

[Ramzavail]

that was an anger pick.

[sterlingice]

I had been considering Corey Hart two straight rounds. I thought I'd go with Markakis and his average over Hart and his power due to how my team was constructed in previous rounds.

SI

[Danny]

I had been considering Corey Hart two straight rounds. I thought I'd go with Markakis and his average over Hart and his power due to how my team was constructed in previous rounds.

SI

You would have dropped him after a slow start anyway :D

[sterlingice]

You would have dropped him after a slow start anyway :D

I dunno- I hold on to my players much too long, I think, more than the other way around. Sometimes it costs me, sometimes- well, a couple of years ago, Garret Atkins- that year where he started out brutal- someone dropped him and I went "he's Garret Atkins- he's better than that" and then he had a scorching second half.

SI

[sterlingice]

My list is really one name long so I'm going to be angry if someone picks that one name

SI

[Danny]

I dunno- I hold on to my players much too long, I think, more than the other way around. Sometimes it costs me, sometimes- well, a couple of years ago, Garret Atkins- that year where he started out brutal- someone dropped him and I went "he's Garret Atkins- he's better than that" and then he had a scorching second half.

SI

Maybe it wasn't you, I thought it was. Last season someone dropped Hart after a slow start and I picked him up and kept him for the season

[MizzouRah]

10.11 OF Corey Hart, MIL

http://blogs.seattleweekly.com/dailyweekly/sunglassesatnight.jpg

Sorry.. :D

[sterlingice]

Looking back, looks like it was me. Then again, he was a 21st round pick last year so I'm not feeling as bad about that.

SI

[Danny]

Boo Sami and Ramz disappeared

[samifan24]

11.2 SP Brandon Morrow, TOR

This was a tough one.

[Ramzavail]

11.3 Brian Matusz, SP, BAL

[Danny]

11.4 2B Aaron Hill for SI


Si messaged me his pick. Mine will be up shortly

[Danny]

11.5 Miguel Montero C

Can someone pm lwsfs for me?

[LastWhiteSoxFanStanding]

11.6 starlin castro ss

Picking a cub and a communist. I swear I don't even know who I am anymore.

[cubboyroy1826]

11.7 SP John Danks

And in the same round I take a member of the White Sox. Wow I think hell is going to freeze over.

[sterlingice]

Yahoo and sheet updated thru 11.7

SI

[CleBrownsfan]

11.8 Howard Kendrick 2B

[Travis]

11.9 - RP - Jonathan Papelbon - BOS

[Suicane75]

11.10 SP Ricky Romero

[MizzouRah]

11.11 SP Trevor Cahill

[Danny]

Strasberg still available

[samifan24]

Aren't we on a two hour clock per pick now? Shouldn't the next pick have been taken already?

[MizzouRah]

I'm sorry.. thought I sent PF a PM, but it didn't go through.. just sent it again.

[cubboyroy1826]

No I think we are still at 6 hours.

[PackerFanatic]

My list want nearly long enough and I think I am well past my time...can you just autopick me the top SS and top SP? Sorry guys and thanks

[samifan24]

My list want nearly long enough and I think I am well past my time...can you just autopick me the top SS and top SP? Sorry guys and thanks

Picks for PF

11.12 SS Rafael Furcal, LAD
12.1 SP Josh Beckett, BOS

[MizzouRah]

12.2 C John Buck

[Danny]

Uh you both can't take furcal. Can someone pm mizzou to change his pick?

[LastWhiteSoxFanStanding]

I messaged him. Hopefully he changes his pick soon.

[MizzouRah]

LOL sorry...

[Suicane75]

12.3 SP Tim Hudson


Edit: Picked someone already off the board.

[Travis]

Lilly is gone.

[Suicane75]

Crap, gimme 1 sec

[Danny]

I wanted Hudson, damn it

[Travis]

12.4 - LF/CF - Brett Gardner - NYY

[CleBrownsfan]

12.5 Ryan Dempster SP

[cubboyroy1826]

12.6 1B/LF/RF Aubrey Huff

[Danny]

haha, I knew you were going to take Huff! (cause he was next on my list)

[LastWhiteSoxFanStanding]

12.7 ike Davis 1b

Is it too late to make this a keeper league :-)

[Danny]

Stop taking my players please!

[Danny]

12.8 Adam Lind LF

[Danny]

I wonder if I will fill my entire starting hitter lineup before getting my second pitcher

[sterlingice]

It's going to take me a few- I'm just now catching up for the day

Yahoo and sheet updated thru 12.8

SI

[sterlingice]

12.9 RF Jason Bay, NYM

SI

[sterlingice]

Next pick due at 10am this morning

SI

[Ramzavail]

12.10 Michael Bourn, CF, HOU

[CleBrownsfan]

I'm heading out for the games today... who wants my list?

[LastWhiteSoxFanStanding]

I'm heading out for the games today... who wants my list?

If nobody is available, you can send the list to me

[sterlingice]

samifan sent me a list via email since the site was down again:

12.11 2B Neil Walker, PIT

SI

[PurdueBrad]

Thanks guys, sorry, I was in parent-teacher conferences.

Damn Sami for taking my guy!

So, I'll pick:

12.12 Carlos Ruiz, C, Philadelphia
13.1 Matt Garza, SP, Chicago sCrUBS

Damn, does that really make two Cubs on my team?!?

[cubboyroy1826]

You dog Brad, you took my next pitcher.

[Danny]

Don't worry pitching is over rated

[cubboyroy1826]

So I hear Danny, so I hear.

[samifan24]

13.2 SP James Shields, TB

[Ramzavail]

13.3 Jamie Garcia, SP, STL

[Ramzavail]

I was going to take Neil Walker.

[Danny]

I'm still going to take neil walker

[cubboyroy1826]

I am related to Neil Walker.

[Danny]

Took long to get to my pick today lol

[sterlingice]

13.4 SP Colby Lewis, Tex

I was really wanting Shields but he's a decent consolation prize

SI

[Danny]

13.5 Phil Hughes

Thank you for not taking my guy despite all the pitchers going off the board

[LastWhiteSoxFanStanding]

13.6 Juan Pierre LF

Can someone please pm the next person for me? Thanks.

[PurdueBrad]

I am related to Neil Walker.

Seriously? You just went up a notch in my book. This doesn't quite erase the fact that you are a Cubs fan and nothing, not even holy water, will erase the stain of your Notre Dame fandom, but hey, this could make me forgive you for killing my dog or something similar.

[cubboyroy1826]

Thanks for that Brad that brings a tear to my eye.

[cubboyroy1826]

13.7 SP Daniel Hudson - Yes a former White Sox player.

[Danny]

Bah, Hudson was the other guy on my list I was hoping would make it back around.

[sterlingice]

not even holy water, will erase the stain of your Notre Dame fandom

That Sweet 16 game this year should be fun ;)

SI

[CleBrownsfan]

13.8 Derrek Lee 1B

[Travis]

13.9 - SP - Jeremy Hellickson - TB

[Suicane75]

13.10 2B Brian Roberts

[sterlingice]

Wow- we're almost all the way back the other direction. I guess I'd better start looking at my lists again

SI

[MizzouRah]

Wow- we're almost all the way back the other direction. I guess I'd better start looking at my lists again

SI

Any way to get the list and yahoo updated before I make my pick?
:D

[MizzouRah]

13.3 Jamie Garcia, SP, STL

Damn good pick!

[MizzouRah]

13.11 SS Alex Gonzalez

[sterlingice]

I'll try to get on that in the next 30 mins or so but I need to finish up some stuff for work first

SI

[sterlingice]

Yahoo updated thru 13.11. Sheet will take a bit longer

SI

[sterlingice]

Sheet now updated thru 13.11

SI

[PackerFanatic]

Thanks, sami, for making my picks yesterday...back home now so I should be able to get all my picks in from here on out :)

13.12 - OF Torii Hunter, LAA
14.1 - 3B Ian Stewart, COL

[sterlingice]

Yahoo and sheet updated thru 14.1

SI

[Danny]

15 minutes left for pick?

[LastWhiteSoxFanStanding]

Thoughts?

[cubboyroy1826]

I think according to the below he has until 10am CST.

If you had more than an hour the previous night (the previous pick was made at 9pm), you get 1 hour in the morning (until 9am) to make your pick. If you had less than an hour, you have 2 hours in the morning (until 10am).

[MizzouRah]

I'm here

[cubboyroy1826]

Sorry my bad it is eastern but he is here so nevermind.

[LastWhiteSoxFanStanding]

Close call! Time to wow us.

[MizzouRah]

14.2 SP Ervin Santana

[MizzouRah]

Not sure about WOW factor. :)

[LastWhiteSoxFanStanding]

17 wins in the 14th round.

Don't sell yourself short:)

[cubboyroy1826]

Yeah that guy is no slouch.

[Suicane75]

14.3 2B Chone Figgins

Edit to bold

[Travis]

14.4 - LF/RF - Bobby Abreu - LAA

[CleBrownsfan]

14.5 Asdrubal Cabrera - SS

[Danny]

There we go! Good run going

[cubboyroy1826]

14.6 SS Ian Desmond

[LastWhiteSoxFanStanding]

14.7 Coco Crisp CF

[Danny]

14.8 Hiroki Kuroda SP

[cubboyroy1826]

Danny I swear we are working off the same list.

[Danny]

I think so, you keep stealing my players :)

[Danny]

Thankfully LWSFS appears to be working off a completely different list lol

[LastWhiteSoxFanStanding]

That's right. I call it my "miss the playoffs for yet another year" list. Sadly, I meant for it to be ironic.

[sterlingice]

14.9 SP Ricky Nolasco, FLA

SI

[sterlingice]

Oh, hey, PurdueBrad sent me a list

SI

[cubboyroy1826]

Hmm did you lose the list? :)

[cubboyroy1826]

Sorry SI I though Brad was up...doh.

[PurdueBrad]

PB is back, so I can pick for myself. I'll send SI an e-mail, although my $200 bar tab implies that I can't pick well.

[PurdueBrad]

To add to the previous post, this may be the time I draft Ronny Cedeno and Chan Ho Park.

[Travis]

In the interest of expediting the draft, I vote that we allow PB to make those picks now and those owners who have picks between now and when he should pick will just have to live without having those two players on the board ;)

[PurdueBrad]

Thanks Travis, much appreciated. I spent my afternoon making fun of the Cubs, the White Sox, and Notre Dame. Needless to say, I've made lots of friends in the Chicagoland area.

Hi Roy!

[samifan24]

I'm going to PM SI a list because I'll be out tonight and don't want to hold things up.