View Full Version : It's The Official MLB '11: The Show Impressions Thread
Sun Tzu
03-08-2011, 09:02 AM
The game was released today, and while MLB '10 may have been a let down thanks to a game breaking bug that destroyed any Franchise/RTTS in 2013, SCEA has confirmed that bug has been fixed for this years iteration. Let the impressions begin!
As a side note, we should all keep in mind that the most important thing isn't what we think, but rather, it's what Bill Abner thinks. Thank you.
TroyF
03-08-2011, 09:14 AM
I don't always agree with the two Bills (Harris and Abner), but I always enjoy reading their takes. When it comes to gameplay, they are very rarely "wrong", it's just what they consider game killing and what I consider game killing are different.
Abner has favorable impressions of the game so far.
I'm really hoping they added a little life to the game this year. It felt a little stale to me last year. I think the analog controls will help in that regard. Will be picking it up later today.
dolfin
03-08-2011, 09:57 AM
Looking forward to this as well. Hopefully picking it up this afternoon.
Comey
03-08-2011, 12:19 PM
Abner has favorable impressions of the game so far.
Do you have a link to his impressions? I only saw one thing on his blog, and that had nothing to do with impressions.
TroyF
03-08-2011, 12:36 PM
Do you have a link to his impressions? I only saw one thing on his blog, and that had nothing to do with impressions.
At his No High Scores blog.
He only mentions the pitching, but he seems to be in love with how it works. He's a big fan of the rest of the standard gameplay, so if he's that impressed about a single feature, it's a good sign.
Comey
03-08-2011, 12:38 PM
Oh all right. I read that too...didn't consider it an impression, but I see why one would.
JediKooter
03-08-2011, 12:39 PM
So they didn't bother fixing bug in the previous version? I don't have the game, but, I am interested in it. However, if they don't fix bugs like that with patches, I'll keep my money.
Comey
03-08-2011, 12:57 PM
So they didn't bother fixing bug in the previous version? I don't have the game, but, I am interested in it. However, if they don't fix bugs like that with patches, I'll keep my money.
What?
gstelmack
03-08-2011, 12:59 PM
At his No High Scores blog.
I loved that blog before it became "No High Scores" and started flooding info. I can't keep up anymore, so I've turned it off my RSS feed.
Travis
03-08-2011, 01:01 PM
What?
I believe he's referencing the statement made above that the game killer bug from last year was fixed for this year's version of the game, but wasn't addressed in a patch during the lifespan of the game it affected directly.
JediKooter
03-08-2011, 01:03 PM
I believe he's referencing the statement made above that the game killer bug from last year was fixed for this year's version of the game, but wasn't addressed in a patch during the lifespan of the game it affected directly.
Correct. Thank you. :)
Comey
03-08-2011, 03:01 PM
I believe he's referencing the statement made above that the game killer bug from last year was fixed for this year's version of the game, but wasn't addressed in a patch during the lifespan of the game it affected directly.
Correct. Thank you. :)
Ditto.
Mizzou B-ball fan
03-08-2011, 03:57 PM
Game is available for $50 at Newegg.
Slickdeals Newegg Deals, Coupons and Promos: MLB 11: The Show (PS3) (03/08/11 12:22pm) (http://slickdeals.net/permadeal/48133/newegg-mlb-11-the-show-ps3)
TroyF
03-08-2011, 04:54 PM
I've played a little bit of RTTS. I love the fact you get credit for working the count this year. In practice mode, fouls are retries instead of outs. It seems they've gone away from a lot of the goals by at bat thing and are just rewarding you for good results/effort and punishing you for stupid crap.
One more change: You now get to pick the type of player you are at the start. All hit, little glove? Power or Speed or a combination? You get more options at the start of RTTS.
For .99 you can buy a stat pack that has more advanced stats for any stat head out there.
Also have the 1,000 points available if you want to ramp up your RTTS player early on.
SackAttack
03-08-2011, 05:02 PM
I've played a little bit of RTTS. I love the fact you get credit for working the count this year. In practice mode, fouls are retries instead of outs. It seems they've gone away from a lot of the goals by at bat thing and are just rewarding you for good results/effort and punishing you for stupid crap.
One more change: You now get to pick the type of player you are at the start. All hit, little glove? Power or Speed or a combination? You get more options at the start of RTTS.
For .99 you can buy a stat pack that has more advanced stats for any stat head out there.
Also have the 1,000 points available if you want to ramp up your RTTS player early on.
You're not helping me here, Troy. I'm trying to hold off buying for a while, damnit.
EagleFan
03-08-2011, 05:06 PM
What is the bug that is mentioned from last year? I had last year's version and don't remember hitting anything that made the game unplayable.
DeToxRox
03-08-2011, 05:10 PM
What is the bug that is mentioned from last year? I had last year's version and don't remember hitting anything that made the game unplayable.
Tigers don't win the World Series every season.
RainMaker
03-08-2011, 05:18 PM
Can you actually play as a closer in RTTS? That has always bugged me about this game. Was too hard to meet goals.
Also, is RTTS the same where performance doesn't matter as much as meeting goals? How I can replace Albert Pujols if I just meet my goals?
JediKooter
03-08-2011, 05:28 PM
What is the bug that is mentioned from last year? I had last year's version and don't remember hitting anything that made the game unplayable.
Something to do with Franchise mode that Sun Tzu mentioned in his OP and that the Tigers never win the World Series. However, Tigers players can now go on drunken binges.
Mizzou B-ball fan
03-08-2011, 05:41 PM
I've played a little bit of RTTS. I love the fact you get credit for working the count this year. In practice mode, fouls are retries instead of outs. It seems they've gone away from a lot of the goals by at bat thing and are just rewarding you for good results/effort and punishing you for stupid crap.
One more change: You now get to pick the type of player you are at the start. All hit, little glove? Power or Speed or a combination? You get more options at the start of RTTS.
For .99 you can buy a stat pack that has more advanced stats for any stat head out there.
Also have the 1,000 points available if you want to ramp up your RTTS player early on.
Sounds nice. I'm having issues resisting purchase.
FBPro
03-08-2011, 07:28 PM
Just picked it up, hope to get to give it a whirl a bit later.
Sweed
03-08-2011, 07:59 PM
Game is available for $50 at Newegg.
Slickdeals Newegg Deals, Coupons and Promos: MLB 11: The Show (PS3) (03/08/11 12:22pm) (http://slickdeals.net/permadeal/48133/newegg-mlb-11-the-show-ps3)
Thanks for posting this. Just completed my order, $49.99, no driving to pick it up, and off next week. Sweet!
Sun Tzu
03-08-2011, 08:31 PM
The bug I'm talking about from last year had to do with the inability for CPU controlled teams to manage a budget, and young pitchers both A.) developing into A+ players regularly, combined with B.) the CPU over valuing their salaries because of this. By 2013, about 90-95% of the big name hitters would be stuck in Free Agency indefinitely because all of the CPU teams had their budgets wrapped up in young stud pitching. The only workarounds were to either control every move of all 30 teams in a franchise, or completely disable player training.
If you played in an RTTS, there is no way you can control anything other than your player, which in turn resulted in you either A.) not being able to sign with ANYONE half way through your career because nobody had any money, or B.) you were stuck with one or two teams that had a few bucks left over to sign you.
It has been confirmed that this bug isn't present in this years version. As a side note, I picked the game up on the way home today. I'm very excited :)
SunDevil
03-08-2011, 08:59 PM
So they didn't bother fixing bug in the previous version? I don't have the game, but, I am interested in it. However, if they don't fix bugs like that with patches, I'll keep my money.
This right here gave me a flashback to Jbmagic. :D
PurdueBrad
03-08-2011, 09:05 PM
Still getting used to the analog controls but had a really memorable one. I'm playing RTTS, got drafted by Houston (ohhh, yay [sarcasm]). First 97 at bats, no homers. In a 6 at bat game against San Antonio, I launch 4. I've never had a four homer game and, honestly, I'm not sure I've had a three homer game in any of the previous versions. Pretty pumped. As the fourth one went out, I had to jump up and raise my arms in victory.
PurdueBrad
03-08-2011, 09:12 PM
Dola
Followed it with a walk-off the next game!!! Man, I'm much more into this year's than last year's although I don't notice a huge difference except for the analog controls and I do like the advancement model better (assuming it works).
PurdueBrad
03-08-2011, 09:23 PM
And double dola...
Come out of the walk-off game to find that I've been traded...to the Padres and their farm team, the San Antonio Missions...which just so happens to be the team I torched for 5 homers. So I got to walk across the field to the other dugout and take on my former team, good times.
Eaglesfan27
03-08-2011, 09:25 PM
Last year's game had a few franchise issues that really bummed me out, so I'm waiting for impressions from you all. Also, time is limited for me right now.
EagleFan
03-08-2011, 09:50 PM
This right here gave me a flashback to Jbmagic. :D
but how is the AI?
TroyF
03-08-2011, 09:59 PM
Still getting used to the analog controls but had a really memorable one. I'm playing RTTS, got drafted by Houston (ohhh, yay [sarcasm]). First 97 at bats, no homers. In a 6 at bat game against San Antonio, I launch 4. I've never had a four homer game and, honestly, I'm not sure I've had a three homer game in any of the previous versions. Pretty pumped. As the fourth one went out, I had to jump up and raise my arms in victory.
I had the opposite experience. I walked up for my first at bat in my serious career as a pinch hitter in the sixth inning of a game we were losing 2-1. There was a man on second and I caught a 2-0 fastball and took it over the right field wall. (I'm a switch hitter and was facing a rightie)
Struck out my next four at bats and I'm still smiling. Go figure. ;)
DeToxRox
03-09-2011, 12:55 PM
From PastaPadre:
Yesterday it was discovered that a major bug is present in MLB 11: The Show’s Franchise mode, one that is practically identical to a bug in MLB 10 that plagued the mode as well. Essentially after just a couple years (in this instance going into the 2014 season) the free agency list is populated by big name players who have been priced out of the market by cheaper players who progressed to high ratings. Those All-Star caliber players linger in free agency from then on and are not signed by the CPU.
SCEA has acknowledged the problem and expressed surprise that the issue has emerged yet again. Unfortunately any fix will require waiting for a patch. Last year the turnaround on the first feedback-based patch was just over two weeks so that would be a reasonable outcome to look for at this point.
JediKooter
03-09-2011, 01:04 PM
This right here gave me a flashback to Jbmagic. :D
I like how I didn't notice a couple of the words I left out, until I read it in your post. That's horrible.
So in a nut shell, they never fixed that franchise bug. My concerns are, if there's a different franchise bug (I usually only play franchise modes in games) in the new version of the game, they won't fix that either. Therefore, I don't want to spend money on it. :)
EDIT: According to DeToxRox, I guess they did patch it? But, did it work? Anyone know?
SackAttack
03-09-2011, 01:12 PM
The bug I'm talking about from last year had to do with the inability for CPU controlled teams to manage a budget, and young pitchers both A.) developing into A+ players regularly, combined with B.) the CPU over valuing their salaries because of this. By 2013, about 90-95% of the big name hitters would be stuck in Free Agency indefinitely because all of the CPU teams had their budgets wrapped up in young stud pitching. The only workarounds were to either control every move of all 30 teams in a franchise, or completely disable player training.
If you played in an RTTS, there is no way you can control anything other than your player, which in turn resulted in you either A.) not being able to sign with ANYONE half way through your career because nobody had any money, or B.) you were stuck with one or two teams that had a few bucks left over to sign you.
It has been confirmed that this bug isn't present in this years version. As a side note, I picked the game up on the way home today. I'm very excited :)
From PastaPadre:
WHICH IS IT?!?
Mustang
03-09-2011, 01:17 PM
From PastaPadre:
If that is the case, pointless to buy at this point. I passed on the 10 version so, looks like I might be doing the same.
CleBrownsfan
03-09-2011, 02:03 PM
I bought a PS3 a few years ago just to play The Show - so this "bug" is very discouraging because I passed on last years too. Oh well....
When will these big name gaming companies get their shit straight and release product without game breaking bugs?? I still feel sport games should be released every other year and just release "roster packs" in their off season.
cougarfreak
03-09-2011, 08:38 PM
Modells.com has MLB 2011 The Show (PS3) for $60 - $23 with code MOD4TEN39 = $36
Place called Modells has it for $36 including shipping with the above discount code. I was holding out for the summer, but I figured I'd grab it with the code.
EagleFan
03-09-2011, 09:21 PM
Anyone try MLB2K11 yet?
Flasch186
03-09-2011, 09:22 PM
Modells.com has MLB 2011 The Show (PS3) for $60 - $23 with code MOD4TEN39 = $36
Place called Modells has it for $36 including shipping with the above discount code. I was holding out for the summer, but I figured I'd grab it with the code.
yup
Sun Tzu
03-09-2011, 09:36 PM
Heh, how about that. Russell from SCEA says the bug isn't there when the game is released. Not even 24 hours later it turns out it really is there.
Fail two years in a row. Now my decision is to either A.) sell this now on Ebay like I did last years, or B.) see if they fix the bug in a patch.
Comey
03-09-2011, 10:44 PM
Anyone try MLB2K11 yet?
No, but I'm getting it for the PC. Waiting to see if it drops on Steam.
Big Fo
03-09-2011, 10:52 PM
Modells.com has MLB 2011 The Show (PS3) for $60 - $23 with code MOD4TEN39 = $36
Place called Modells has it for $36 including shipping with the above discount code. I was holding out for the summer, but I figured I'd grab it with the code.
Same here, I was going to hold off for a bit before I came across this.
Modells.com has MLB 2011 The Show (PS3) for $60 - $23 with code MOD4TEN39 = $36
Place called Modells has it for $36 including shipping with the above discount code. I was holding out for the summer, but I figured I'd grab it with the code.
Thanks bro! I decided to grab it at that price! :D
samifan24
03-09-2011, 11:23 PM
They ship the game with a showstopping RTS bug two years in a row? How does that happen? How is that bug not the first thing they work on after '10?
RainMaker
03-09-2011, 11:44 PM
Glad I waited on this. Getting to a point that the only series I trust now is NBA 2K. Now I just need to decide if selling my PS3 would be worth it. I really don't play anything on it and got it for The Show which has flamed out the last 2 years.
korme
03-10-2011, 01:26 AM
Minor issue, but it has always bothered me... are the player cards more in depth? For instance, the stat lines would show the year, the BA HR RBI and thats about it. I want team played for, and a full line of stats. Any change this year?
TroyF
03-10-2011, 08:30 AM
Glad I waited on this. Getting to a point that the only series I trust now is NBA 2K. Now I just need to decide if selling my PS3 would be worth it. I really don't play anything on it and got it for The Show which has flamed out the last 2 years.
I know this is a dangerous thing and I could be labeled a fan boy, but I rarely get more than a few years into even rtts let alone a dynasty, so this doesn't really impact me a great deal. I think they've made a lot of improvements I like. You can actually hit doubles down the line now. I love the new RTTS where they've taken away a vast majority of what I hated about it. (the goal is get on base safely, I crush a 3-2 pitch and a guy robs me of a HR, Fail -25 points. That garbage is gone. Now I'd get 15-20 points for a good at bat.)
I hope they fix the bug in a patch, but the impact on me this year is going to be minimal to none.
Sweed
03-10-2011, 08:49 AM
Hope it gets fixed for you guys. Guess I'm lucky in that I only play The Show in season mode. Playing all 162 games takes my summer and quells my need for a baseball game with current players.
I have no desire for a RTTS game and OOTP fills my need for an ongoing dynasty.
The game-play\physics have improved every year along with the eye-candy. Going through a Cubs season, playing a realistic baseball game, and seeing all of the stadiums in their eye popping glory is worth the price of the game to me.
Some post at OS that the game has become stale. Maybe it doesn't change much but IMHO that is a great thing. If it ain't broke don't fix it.
samifan24
03-10-2011, 09:30 AM
If it ain't broke don't fix it.
Except that it is broken.
DanGarion
03-10-2011, 10:16 AM
They ship the game with a showstopping RTS bug two years in a row? How does that happen? How is that bug not the first thing they work on after '10?
It happens because people keep buying it...
TroyF
03-10-2011, 10:53 AM
It happens because people keep buying it...
This is where the dangerous part I spoke of above comes in. If this bug were in OOTP, it'd be a deal breaker. I regularly have 30+ year careers in that game.
Even with just batting and only doing some of the fielding, I think the furthest I've ever got in RTTS mode is 5 years. I don't play franchise mode on it. So for my needs, The Show provides everything I need to have fun from March to the middle of July. (then the football games come out and I get preoccupied with those)
For others, this bug is soul crushing. I get that and understand their frustrations. I called RTTS unplayable a few years ago and took a lot of grief for it. For me it had too many ridiculous bugs and I wasn't willing to deal with them. The Show was traded in early that year. Others laughed at me and said I was being too hard on it.
I really hope they fix this bug for all of the people who care about it. It's just one that will likely not impact me in any way.
Sweed
03-10-2011, 11:41 AM
Hope it gets fixed for you guys. Guess I'm lucky in that I only play The Show in season mode. Playing all 162 games takes my summer and quells my need for a baseball game with current players.
I have no desire for a RTTS game and OOTP fills my need for an ongoing dynasty.
The game-play\physics have improved every year along with the eye-candy. Going through a Cubs season, playing a realistic baseball game, and seeing all of the stadiums in their eye popping glory is worth the price of the game to me.
Some post at OS that the game has become stale. Maybe it doesn't change much but IMHO that is a great thing. If it ain't broke don't fix it.
Except that it is broken.
If you are talking about the issue being posted here breaking long term games or RTTS, yes it is. The first thing I said is "Hope it gets fixed for you guys.", meaning said issue.
"If it ain't broke don't fix it." has to do with game-play staying much the same from year to year and becoming, according to some, stale. Some seem to want change for change sake.
DanGarion
03-10-2011, 02:57 PM
Here is a longwinded review of MLB2k11 from someone on Reddit.
I played MLB2K11 for 12 straight hours yesterday, from 2pm to 2am. I was so excited at first, but by the end had tweeted to 2Ksports and 2Kgames to ask for my money back. Here is my experience. : baseball (http://www.reddit.com/r/baseball/comments/g0gzl/i_played_mlb2k11_for_12_straight_hours_yesterday/)
TroyF
03-10-2011, 03:38 PM
Here is a longwinded review of MLB2k11 from someone on Reddit.
I played MLB2K11 for 12 straight hours yesterday, from 2pm to 2am. I was so excited at first, but by the end had tweeted to 2Ksports and 2Kgames to ask for my money back. Here is my experience. : baseball (http://www.reddit.com/r/baseball/comments/g0gzl/i_played_mlb2k11_for_12_straight_hours_yesterday/)
I have it for the PC and haven't had a lot of the problems he describes. Yes, there are issues. The HR bug is horrible. I also don't like OF fielding at all.
But in terms of hitting and difficulty? Zero issues. I'm actually hitting for a better average after 2 weeks on 2K11 than I am in The Show. (.234 vs. .220. . . yes, I suck)
Comey
03-10-2011, 03:59 PM
I have it for the PC and haven't had a lot of the problems he describes. Yes, there are issues. The HR bug is horrible. I also don't like OF fielding at all.
But in terms of hitting and difficulty? Zero issues. I'm actually hitting for a better average after 2 weeks on 2K11 than I am in The Show. (.234 vs. .220. . . yes, I suck)
Do you like it for the PC?
DanGarion
03-10-2011, 04:13 PM
I have it for the PC and haven't had a lot of the problems he describes. Yes, there are issues. The HR bug is horrible. I also don't like OF fielding at all.
But in terms of hitting and difficulty? Zero issues. I'm actually hitting for a better average after 2 weeks on 2K11 than I am in The Show. (.234 vs. .220. . . yes, I suck)
I can only speak for myself, but I'm 0 for 14 with 1 walk in 4 games. And I think I've committed 3 errors in RF.
Logan
03-10-2011, 04:27 PM
Good eye at least.
DanGarion
03-10-2011, 04:28 PM
Good eye at least.
Actually no, I think 10 of those were Ks at least I got +25 for the walk.
Qrusher14242
03-11-2011, 12:40 PM
Dang, modells.com cancelled my order due to 'inventory issue' That sucks! :(
Big Fo
03-11-2011, 04:38 PM
Dang, modells.com cancelled my order due to 'inventory issue' That sucks! :(
Yeah, me too. If I have to pay fuil price I'll wait to hear if that franchise mode problem with player salaries and free agency is patched.
Comey
03-11-2011, 07:16 PM
I got a chance to play a bit of it at Best Buy. Used pure analog for hitting and pitching; it was pretty tough (the hitting). I was wild with Roy Halladay, but managed to give up only a run in four innings. I struck out five or six in those four innings.
Hitting, I struck out maybe seven times in the first three innings, but I started to get the hang of it. In the fourth, Jimmy Rollins hit a leadoff double into the right-field corner, off of Tim Hudson; Polanco struck out, and Chase Utley followed with a liner into right that ended up being a sac fly.
Ryan Howard followed that with a two-run bomb to right. I felt pretty good about that.
Overall, it was fun. I'm going to hold off on getting it, but I enjoyed what I did play.
Flasch186
03-11-2011, 07:20 PM
cancelled
Dang, modells.com cancelled my order due to 'inventory issue' That sucks! :(
Ditto
Big Fo
03-12-2011, 09:50 AM
Modell's sent me an e-mail saying they now have more copies of the game in stock and will honor that discount. There was a new discount code in the e-mail, it still comes out to $36 with free shipping.
Modell's sent me an e-mail saying they now have more copies of the game in stock and will honor that discount. There was a new discount code in the e-mail, it still comes out to $36 with free shipping.
Interesting. I wonder if the rest of us will receive a similar e-mail?
What is the discount code?
Big Fo
03-12-2011, 01:56 PM
Interesting. I wonder if the rest of us will receive a similar e-mail?
What is the discount code?
From reading some posts on the Cheap Ass Gamers forums it seems that unlike the previous discount codes these new ones are different for each person e-mailed and it wouldn't do you any good for me to post mine. And that some people who chose to pay via Paypal did not get e-mails and had to call to get the discount. Or maybe your e-mail just didn't get sent out yet? I dunno.
Hopefully everyone gets their order sorted out.
Thanks for the info. May be worth a call to Modell's since I used Paypal.
cougarfreak
03-12-2011, 03:28 PM
Thanks for the info. May be worth a call to Modell's since I used Paypal.
Definitely do.....I used paypal, and had to call and get mine to reorder. They honored the original 40% off price, and free shipping. They do require your original order number. That would have been in your confirmation email on the order, and in the cancellation order on your email.
Definitely do.....I used paypal, and had to call and get mine to reorder. They honored the original 40% off price, and free shipping. They do require your original order number. That would have been in your confirmation email on the order, and in the cancellation order on your email.
Thanks.
I also called and they honored the deal. I ordered with the rep. over the phone and used my credit card, so I'm good to go.
Qrusher14242
03-13-2011, 12:41 AM
i just got the email and just placed the order again. I was surprised. Can't wait to play it :) The only ones i have played have been on the PS2.
Sweed
03-16-2011, 11:05 AM
My copy arrived from newegg yesterday afternoon. Played 4 exhibition games with my Cubs. Game looks stunning with more improvement in lighting and player models.
No more "hand on helmet" only home run trot :) It was funny though I was down 10-2 in the 8th when Ramirez hit a solo home run and did a fist pump while rounding the bases. Ok there big guy not really the time;)
Adjustable cameras are a nice addition.
Haven't tried analog controls but if I use any it will probably only be hitting. The problem with meter or the new analog pitching IMHO is that the more you use it the better your timing gets, the better your player performs, and then you need to go in and adjust sliders again to compensate. That's why I'm a big fan of using classic pitching as IMHO it is more "sim" relying on the P's ratings rather than my timing on a meter or stick.
I suppose one could make the same argument about hitting but my skill at that never seems to really improve:) Once I find the right slider for my skill I'm usually set for the year.
Not really a lot more to say without playing a lot more games. Initial impression is it is more of the same with fine tuning. I see where some will say "stale" but too me that is a good thing. I'm always afraid they'll come up with the next "great idea" that ruins what already works.
IMHO they are at a stage where they can tweak the on-field game\ graphics and spend a lot of time on what games like OOTP and FM do so well. Player development, aging, transactions, financials etc.
SackAttack
03-16-2011, 12:27 PM
Popped MLB '08 in my PSP yesterday night and fooled around with 'manager mode.'
I wouldn't mind seeing a career mode that way at some point in the future. Just call all the action from the dugout and not worry about how crappy I am at hitting.
Any chance MLB '11 has this? Please say no. ;)
cougarfreak
03-16-2011, 04:37 PM
Popped MLB '08 in my PSP yesterday night and fooled around with 'manager mode.'
I wouldn't mind seeing a career mode that way at some point in the future. Just call all the action from the dugout and not worry about how crappy I am at hitting.
Any chance MLB '11 has this? Please say no. ;)
You can manage only from Franchise mode. That's the only way I've played in the past.
Ryan S
03-16-2011, 05:39 PM
Can anyone explain the analog hitting controls to me? I could not find the instructions in the demo.
Sweed
03-16-2011, 08:44 PM
Can anyone explain the analog hitting controls to me? I could not find the instructions in the demo.
Just got done trying analog hitting, playing out two game, and really liked it.
Pretty simple.
1.Pull the right stick down to cock your front foot when pitch is on the way
2. push stick up to hit ball coming down middle, up and right for outside pitch to RHB, up and left for inside pitch to RHB. Of course the opposite for LHB.
3. you don't try to swing high or low it seems that is taken care of by the timing of your swing. you only have to decide middle, right, or left.
Sounds simple but if you don't time things right you look bad. Cock front foot too soon and you'll stride too soon and lose bat speed. Too late and you won't get around on the pitch.
I like it a lot better than zone hitting. I never get the left stick moved to the right zone before I actually swing. With analog the plate coverage balloon moves with your swing instead of independent of it.
Mizzou B-ball fan
03-16-2011, 10:26 PM
Finally made the plunge. Heard the fix for RTTS is coming soon, so I'm ready to dive in.
Overall impressions from Pasta Padre. Nothing surprising here. Online play lags. Single player still very good.
MLB 11: The Show Hits and Misses | pastapadre.com (http://www.pastapadre.com/2011/03/14/mlb-11-the-show-hits-and-misses)
Qrusher14242
03-17-2011, 04:43 AM
has anybody's order from modell's shipped yet?? Mine still says 'items located in stock' and i ordered it on the 12th. Just can't wait to play it heh
Nugget699
03-17-2011, 05:12 PM
Gosh almighty I'm bad at this game. Just played an exhibition as the Giants vs AA Jackson. Won 1-0, with Jackson's SP getting 11 K's :lol:
I just can't spot bad pitches and tend to swing at everything. Discipline is my biggest problem.
nZane
03-17-2011, 06:18 PM
has anybody's order from modell's shipped yet?? Mine still says 'items located in stock' and i ordered it on the 12th. Just can't wait to play it hehI just received the email that mine is shipping today (also placed my order on the 12th). A few folks over at SlickDeals have already received theirs, so it looks like Modell's is finally getting these things out.
Sweed
03-17-2011, 08:36 PM
Gosh almighty I'm bad at this game. Just played an exhibition as the Giants vs AA Jackson. Won 1-0, with Jackson's SP getting 11 K's :lol:
I just can't spot bad pitches and tend to swing at everything. Discipline is my biggest problem.
I have the same problem with plate discipline. Then it gets magnified as the AI knows you swing at junk and keeps throwing it:eek:
Go through it every year, takes 20 or so games for me to get some control over myself. The tough part is when you finally get some discipline and take a pitch out of the zone and the damn ump calls it a strike, then you start to press, and fall back into bad habits :banghead:
Nugget699
03-17-2011, 09:20 PM
I'm getting far too frustrated with this game, so figured I better stop before I Frisbee it out the window. :banghead:
I've been to a few forums now, and read what people suggest to stop swinging at everything and none of it helps.
I used to enjoy the Guess Pitch in Rookie mode but now that's been changed to guess location I just can't seem to enjoy the game any more.
I'm looking for a baseball game where I can just chill out after work and play a few games, and not have to have a masters degree in guessing which pitch the pitcher is throwing.
DaddyTorgo
03-17-2011, 10:04 PM
I'm getting far too frustrated with this game, so figured I better stop before I Frisbee it out the window. :banghead:
I've been to a few forums now, and read what people suggest to stop swinging at everything and none of it helps.
I used to enjoy the Guess Pitch in Rookie mode but now that's been changed to guess location I just can't seem to enjoy the game any more.
I'm looking for a baseball game where I can just chill out after work and play a few games, and not have to have a masters degree in guessing which pitch the pitcher is throwing.
have you tried just slowing the pitch speed way way way down?
DeToxRox
03-17-2011, 10:15 PM
I'm getting far too frustrated with this game, so figured I better stop before I Frisbee it out the window. :banghead:
I've been to a few forums now, and read what people suggest to stop swinging at everything and none of it helps.
I used to enjoy the Guess Pitch in Rookie mode but now that's been changed to guess location I just can't seem to enjoy the game any more.
I'm looking for a baseball game where I can just chill out after work and play a few games, and not have to have a masters degree in guessing which pitch the pitcher is throwing.
Go up to experienced and change guess pitch to classic 1/4th. Should be far easier.
Qrusher14242
03-17-2011, 11:19 PM
I just received the email that mine is shipping today (also placed my order on the 12th). A few folks over at SlickDeals have already received theirs, so it looks like Modell's is finally getting these things out.
Yeah i read the thread over there. The only email i've got has been about a 10% off deal on their website. I called them up and it still just says processing. Guess i'll play MLB2K11 until it gets here.
Nugget699
03-18-2011, 01:33 AM
have you tried just slowing the pitch speed way way way down?
Tried that. I put the camera on to wide as I felt I was too close before on the Catcher views and that has helped a little bit, but not much. I'm still swinging at balls that are well wide, although I did managed to draw a walk with Aubrey Huff before!
Go up to experienced and change guess pitch to classic 1/4th. Should be far easier.
I'm on classic 1/4th now on Rookie.
I just played a 13 inning game against the Royals as the Giants and still only came away winning 1-0. I struck out 9 and only had 7 against me, including the walk. I just never seem to get much going on offense. I'll get one onto first and then that's about it.
I've yet to hit a homer too.
DaddyTorgo
03-18-2011, 08:07 AM
Tried that. I put the camera on to wide as I felt I was too close before on the Catcher views and that has helped a little bit, but not much. I'm still swinging at balls that are well wide, although I did managed to draw a walk with Aubrey Huff before!
I'm on classic 1/4th now on Rookie.
I just played a 13 inning game against the Royals as the Giants and still only came away winning 1-0. I struck out 9 and only had 7 against me, including the walk. I just never seem to get much going on offense. I'll get one onto first and then that's about it.
I've yet to hit a homer too.
I found the analog hitting difficult too, so I actually just went back to last-year's style hitting to be honest.
Still have issues swinging at balls instead of taking pitches, but at least when I make contact I have a legit potential to get a solid base hit or a HR.
MrDNA
03-18-2011, 11:35 PM
Personally, I'm loving analog hitting and pitching. What I don't like is analog throwing. There must be something about it that I'm not getting. I have committed a good half dozen throwing errors already. Some, granted, were from a short stop backhanding a worm burner and going across his body, but a few were simple underhand tosses that went flying into the seats. I got so frustrated I switched back to button presses... and had two more throwing errors. GRRRRR
Big Fo
03-21-2011, 09:06 PM
My game arrived from Modell's today.
I hadn't played last year's game in months so I was not surprised that even a mediocre pitcher like Chris Young (Mets) was able to strike my Braves out 10 times in six innings while not allowing any walks. I think I only got to a three ball count once or twice.
Qrusher14242
03-21-2011, 11:24 PM
i finally got a shipping notification woohoo!! Can't wait to play it. Hope the announcing is better than last years on the PS2. Every play it seemed they would the exact opposite of what you'd expect them to say. On any double play they would says ' heh you dont see that combination often' Even on a 6-4-3!
Sun Tzu
03-22-2011, 07:49 AM
My copy went back in the case until the bug is patched. Re: the announcers, while I think they are better than any other video game options out there, I still play all of my games with them turned completely off. It just adds much more of a "at the ballpark" feel to the games.
Sweed
03-22-2011, 07:58 AM
I'm getting prompted for a 1.10 patch right now. No word on OS what is in it.
No info found using a google search.
Mizzou B-ball fan
03-22-2011, 11:06 AM
I'm getting prompted for a 1.10 patch right now. No word on OS what is in it.
No info found using a google search.
They're talking about it in this thread. Looks like they're testing it out.
1.10 patch? - Operation Sports Forums (http://osatwork.com/forums/showthread.php?t=474564)
Cuckoo
03-22-2011, 01:54 PM
No fix for the franchise bug, it appears. Too bad, as I was hoping to buy this one after skipping last year.
MLB 11 The Show Title Update 1.10 Fix List - Operation Sports Forums (http://www.operationsports.com/forums/scea-sports-mlb/474600-mlb-11-show-title-update-1-10-fix-list.html)
Sun Tzu
03-22-2011, 09:51 PM
Incredible that a bug that's been hanging around for multiple iterations of a video game series, isn't fixed in the opening patch. I'm just completely dumbfounded at this decision.
Qrusher14242
03-23-2011, 01:57 AM
finally got my copy today. Such a great game, but i cant stand the new analog controls. Tried the hitting for a while, but it just didnt feel right. I like it a lot in 2k, but for some reason i can't seem to get a hang of it here. Going back to zone and its so much better. What a jump from the PS2 version heh. Just played a 13 inning ST game but lost 2-1 :(
EagleFan
03-23-2011, 04:52 PM
One thing that I wish this game had that 2K11 had is the batting interface. I felt much more comfortable with the 2K11 controls. I liked that you only had to cock the stick back for hitting with power, that alone seemed to make it naturally harder when trying to swing for power.
I struck out far too often in last year's version and it hasn;t gotten any better in this year's. In 2K11 my strikeouts were minimal and I was able to work a comfortable amount of walks and that was without the guess location and pitch type feature assisting me like I get with The Show.
Any recommendations on which batting view to use? I have tried almost all of the catcher angles but still can't find one that makes locating the close pitches early enough easier.
Nugget699
03-23-2011, 05:38 PM
I use Catcher 9, but lots of people say they use Wide and then custom change the angle as low to the ground as possible.
Also, if, like me, you are struggling to hit this year have a read of this thread (http://www.operationsports.com/forums/scea-sports-mlb/470214-if-you-need-help-hitting-come-here-long-but-detailed-read.html) it has really helped me, and I have now won a couple of games.
I think the big thing for me was to stop relying on Guess Pitch, which stopped me from focusing on the ball.
EagleFan
03-23-2011, 05:40 PM
Thanks. I'll give that a read tonight.
Sweed
03-23-2011, 07:16 PM
I was struggling with the low ball too. The answer for me was the custom camera.
I used catcher view, lowered the camera with the left stick 'til the view seemed almost straight on, then zoomed in until the very front edge of home plate was still visible. Hell of an improvement. I drew 3 walks, was able to see low pitches for the first time since I got the game, and even turned pitch speed back up to 4 from 3. I also think I'll be lowering my contact slider one click as I'm seeing the ball so well.
The unfortunate thing is one can't share their camera settings with anyone else. Unlike NHL11, The Show doesn't give a digital output setting for the custom camera. So, all one can do is try to describe how they have the camera setup.
Sweed
03-23-2011, 10:34 PM
Dola
Holy crap, what a difference a batting view makes. I was striking-out 15+ times a game and the batting analysis tool would be blanketed with "Orange K-balls" out of the zone low.
2 games with the new view and K's are down. 7 one game and 11 the next (RP was really in a groove getting calls and throwing BB's, nice to be dominated when it doesn't feel cheap). However the batter analysis showed a only one K on a ball below the zone :)
Finally able to play the game that's been unopened for a few weeks. I can't download the roster update (says it's corrupt). Anyone else have that problem?
DaddyTorgo
03-27-2011, 03:06 PM
I JUST THREW A NO-NO!!!
My first ever.
Analog pitching...Red Sox (Bucholz) vs. Yankees.
Only blemish on the game was 2 walks (one of which was in the top of the 9th and setup the game-ending DP).
Fuck I feel like a winner right now!
DaddyTorgo
03-27-2011, 03:06 PM
Dola
Holy crap, what a difference a batting view makes. I was striking-out 15+ times a game and the batting analysis tool would be blanketed with "Orange K-balls" out of the zone low.
2 games with the new view and K's are down. 7 one game and 11 the next (RP was really in a groove getting calls and throwing BB's, nice to be dominated when it doesn't feel cheap). However the batter analysis showed a only one K on a ball below the zone :)
I gotta try this view...I'm the exact same way.
EagleFan
03-27-2011, 03:09 PM
One funny "bug" in the game involving the crowd...
As an away player I have swung and missed at pitches that were close and the crowd has booed. The only pattern that I have found is that it is only on a close pitch. I wonder if they are reacting to what the umpire would have called the pitch (a ball) instead of the result of the play (my swinging strike).
EagleFan
03-27-2011, 03:10 PM
I JUST THREW A NO-NO!!!
My first ever.
Analog pitching...Red Sox (Bucholz) vs. Yankees.
Only blemish on the game was 2 walks (one of which was in the top of the 9th and setup the game-ending DP).
Fuck I feel like a winner right now!
Nice!!!
Closest I got was into the 9th.
EagleFan
03-27-2011, 03:13 PM
Oh, also a thank you for the batting view suggestion. That has helped a LOT.
I went on on of the biggest tears with my ROTS player after getting used to that view. Had a 10 game stretch where I hit over .500 with 6 homeruns and 24 RBI's (one game the rest of my team pissed me off though as I had 8 RBI's and we lost the game 9-8.... Come On! :) ).
I gotta try this view...I'm the exact same way.
What view is this?
DaddyTorgo
03-27-2011, 04:24 PM
What view is this?
The one that Sweed described a few posts back.
Basically take "catcher view" and edit it - rotate the axis down so you're essentially looking straight-on to the pitcher and then zoom in so the front edge of the plate is just barely visible.
Obviously if you're not doing RTTS it will vary based on the size of your batter, but I think the key is really the axis being rotated so you're straight on with the pitcher (instead of being elevated) as far as recognizing stuff in/out of the zone, and also being zoomed in a bit closer.
Sweed
03-27-2011, 04:53 PM
I JUST THREW A NO-NO!!!
My first ever.
Analog pitching...Red Sox (Bucholz) vs. Yankees.
Only blemish on the game was 2 walks (one of which was in the top of the 9th and setup the game-ending DP).
Fuck I feel like a winner right now!
Very cool, congrats. I know I've never thrown one and IIRC a 2 hitter with Zambrano is as close as I've come.
DaddyTorgo
03-27-2011, 05:15 PM
Very cool, congrats. I know I've never thrown one and IIRC a 2 hitter with Zambrano is as close as I've come.
Thanks!
And I guess the balance is good - I just was the victim of a 3-hit shutout by Andy Sonnenstine of TB, so that's cool.
CleBrownsfan
03-27-2011, 07:11 PM
So what's everyone thoughts on this year's Show? RTTS pretty much same as previous versions? Are there any game breaker bugs?
So what's everyone thoughts on this year's Show? RTTS pretty much same as previous versions? Are there any game breaker bugs?
RTTS is way better as the goals system has been totally revamped. Now you don't have stupid goals per at bat, instead it evaluates each at bat and gives you points based on how do you work the count etc. It has improved a lot.
About game breaking bugs, same as past year, rookies are too good and develop too fast, so after a few years you will see stars sitting in FA as not any team wants to pay their salaries when they can get cheaper rookies that perform as good. They know about it and are supposed to be working on a patch to fix it. Not a game breaking bug for me as i play mainly RTTS and pay more attention to my player than to others, but in franchise or if you care a lot about the game world realism, it could bother you.
EagleFan
03-28-2011, 10:35 PM
I LOVE the changes in the goal system in RTTS. You can actually have a goot at bat and not get punished for it (like crushing a line drive that gets caught could yield a better 'goal' result than a weak dribbler that ends in an infield single).
DaddyTorgo
03-28-2011, 11:28 PM
I just took a perfect game into the 7th inning before a walk and a single ruined it.
Sweed
03-31-2011, 06:48 AM
Just a heads-up, "Operation Sports Full Minors 2011" roster came out last night.
MLB 11 The Show - Operation Sports Full Minors 2011 (Spring Training Version) - Operation Sports Forums (http://www.operationsports.com/forums/scea-sports-mlb-rosters/475851-mlb-11-show-operation-sports-full-minors-2011-spring-training-version.html)
Very cool to have these before opening day.
EagleFan
03-31-2011, 12:03 PM
Crud, I think my controller is going on me. It started the other day and last night it was unplayable as almost every swing that I took ended as a check swing.
DaddyTorgo
03-31-2011, 02:47 PM
Just a heads-up, "Operation Sports Full Minors 2011" roster came out last night.
MLB 11 The Show - Operation Sports Full Minors 2011 (Spring Training Version) - Operation Sports Forums (http://www.operationsports.com/forums/scea-sports-mlb-rosters/475851-mlb-11-show-operation-sports-full-minors-2011-spring-training-version.html)
Very cool to have these before opening day.
Awesome news, but not sure if I want to abandon the Red Sox dynasty that I already started where I took advantage of the default Rosters to sign Vlad Guerrero onto the Red Sox :D
Sun Tzu
03-31-2011, 09:10 PM
For the record, it looks like SCEA has found and implemented a fix for the glitches that kill Franny's/RTTS's and is now in bug testing mode.
MLB 11 The Show Franchise Changes For Next Title Update - Operation Sports Forums (http://www.operationsports.com/forums/scea-sports-mlb/475658-mlb-11-show-franchise-changes-next-title-update.html)
DaddyTorgo
04-01-2011, 08:49 AM
I can't get Carl Crawford to hit. I'm fucking raking with everyone else...even Jed Lowrie is hitting over .300 after like 10 games, but Crawford is down at .200. I seem to let first pitch strikes go by with him, then swing at whatever is thrown second pitch (or I don't swing and it's a strike) and then I can't hit with him with 2 strikes.
Or I actually square a ball up and make solid contact and hit it right at somebody.
It's maddening.
Big Fo
04-01-2011, 03:10 PM
For the record, it looks like SCEA has found and implemented a fix for the glitches that kill Franny's/RTTS's and is now in bug testing mode.
MLB 11 The Show Franchise Changes For Next Title Update - Operation Sports Forums (http://www.operationsports.com/forums/scea-sports-mlb/475658-mlb-11-show-franchise-changes-next-title-update.html)
Why are words like fix and roster starred out over there? It looks stupid.
Good news though. Hopefully I can finally start a franchise in a few weeks.
EagleFan
04-01-2011, 04:25 PM
Why are words like fix and roster starred out over there? It looks stupid.
Good news though. Hopefully I can finally start a franchise in a few weeks.
That does look odd. Also the letters dj in Adjust are getting the star treatment and the word cat (or wherever those letters appear in a word).
nZane
04-01-2011, 08:41 PM
Something to do with April Fool's Day, I'd guess.
Sun Tzu
04-23-2011, 11:42 AM
The second (and most likely final) patch has been released. Here is the verdict.
The game-breaking FA bug is still there, only it's been pushed out one in-game year. You can kill the bug by playing a franchise and turning off budgets, however for those who strictly play RTTS (arguably the signature mode of the game) you are once again shit out of luck. By the time you hit your fourth year in-game, you will begin seeing Cy Young winners from the previous year going unsigned, and a FA pool filled indefinitely with all of the best players in the league.
SCEA fail. MBBF, I changed my mind about these guys. This will be three plus years of the same bug not being fixed. Fuck 'em. I'm sticking to OOTP.
DaddyTorgo
04-23-2011, 12:05 PM
The second (and most likely final) patch has been released. Here is the verdict.
The game-breaking FA bug is still there, only it's been pushed out one in-game year. You can kill the bug by playing a franchise and turning off budgets, however for those who strictly play RTTS (arguably the signature mode of the game) you are once again shit out of luck. By the time you hit your fourth year in-game, you will begin seeing Cy Young winners from the previous year going unsigned, and a FA pool filled indefinitely with all of the best players in the league.
SCEA fail. MBBF, I changed my mind about these guys. This will be three plus years of the same bug not being fixed. Fuck 'em. I'm sticking to OOTP.
Fucking lame.
rowech
04-23-2011, 02:04 PM
The second (and most likely final) patch has been released. Here is the verdict.
The game-breaking FA bug is still there, only it's been pushed out one in-game year. You can kill the bug by playing a franchise and turning off budgets, however for those who strictly play RTTS (arguably the signature mode of the game) you are once again shit out of luck. By the time you hit your fourth year in-game, you will begin seeing Cy Young winners from the previous year going unsigned, and a FA pool filled indefinitely with all of the best players in the league.
SCEA fail. MBBF, I changed my mind about these guys. This will be three plus years of the same bug not being fixed. Fuck 'em. I'm sticking to OOTP.
This is shameful...really is. EA sports like.
Eaglesfan27
04-23-2011, 02:49 PM
I bought a PS3 just for this game, but am skipping this game this year because of this issue :(
Izulde
04-23-2011, 03:43 PM
I skipped the last two years because of those issues.
MizzouRah
04-30-2011, 07:55 PM
I'm new to The Show and absolutely love it. The full analog controls for pitching, hitting and fielding are excellent.
It's definitely a full gaming experience and has me playing, "just one more" into the wee hours...
MizzouRah
05-16-2011, 08:05 PM
This might sound weird, but the game looks much better when I set the ps3 to 1080p only. Only game I have to do that.
Scoobz0202
07-12-2011, 04:54 PM
First year playing The Show. Bought a PS3 specifically for it. Has there ever been problems with fielding or am I just doing something wrong? It's seemed to really crop up in the latest World Series for me. Using custom sliders so I seem to be on a level playing field with my opponents. Down 2 games to 0 against the Tigers, and in a pivotal game three, I've had three plays in the outfield where I will direct my guy towards the circle, but after he gets there I notice I need to adjust him a little one direction and the minute I do that he's almost falling all over himself and then the ball just rolls all over the outfield.
Soul crushing.
EDIT: Franchise. Reds. Jay Bruce is no slouch in RF so I don't think it's ratings, is it?
JediKooter
07-12-2011, 04:57 PM
I'd be happy if my first baseman in my Road to the Show, would field a grounder hit slightly to his left or right.
JediKooter
07-12-2011, 06:52 PM
Maybe I missed it in this thread, but, does there seem to be an unusually high number of bunts that are popped up by the AI team and they bunt A LOT?
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