Anybody here play Dungeons?

[Abe Sargent]

I want an idea of how it plays and such. The reviews are mixed.

[Abe Sargent]

Link for those interested:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dungeons_%28computer_game%29

[M GO BLUE!!!]

Is "Dungeons" a form of a popular game back in the 80's, but minus the pesky fire breathing demons? ;)

Or are you just a pervert?

[Marc Vaughan]

I've not tried it - loved the concept of 'Dungeon Keeper', but this new one just sounded like the gameplay was a bit well 'strange' with you managing the dungeon but also having to satisfy the heroes to some extent .... let me know what you think if you do get it.

[CrimsonFox]

I've not tried it - loved the concept of 'Dungeon Keeper', but this new one just sounded like the gameplay was a bit well 'strange' with you managing the dungeon but also having to satisfy the heroes to some extent .... let me know what you think if you do get it.

+1

I played a whole LOT of Dungeon Keeper and Dungeon Keeper too. Awesome games and very unique with its feature that you could mind control your minions turning it from a 3d skewed RTS game to a first person RTS/Action.

The voiceover guy was awesome. Really loved this one. This new one doesn't sound as fun. taking care of the heroes, bah.

[mckerney]

+1

I played a whole LOT of Dungeon Keeper and Dungeon Keeper too. Awesome games and very unique with its feature that you could mind control your minions turning it from a 3d skewed RTS game to a first person RTS/Action.

The voiceover guy was awesome. Really loved this one. This new one doesn't sound as fun. taking care of the heroes, bah.

Unfortunately Dungeons isn't really like Dungeon Keeper. It's more of a tower defense game with a hero and peons that clear out areas for you. The creatures you get spawn a set number at summoning points and don't leave that spot until an enemy enters there line of sight. As soon as they see an enemy they will attack the enemy, returning to the summoning spot once the enemy is dead while any units lost will respawn after a set amount of time. Some of the level design can be frustrating given the tower defense mechanics too. You'll have enemies who enter and exit your dungeon from the same location, but if you don't let them collect treasure before killing them you won't gain as many resources as if you kill them as they enter. This means to reliably kill them while collecting resources you need to do it with your hero while you have other objectives you need him for. Otherwise you can try to set up a weaker creature damage them as they enter then die off and respawn to kill the enemy as they leave. Not something that reliably works or is any fun to try.

There were definitely some interesting things that it did like the resource system with souls and prestige, but it mostly feels like a lot of wasted potential. Especially for a game that was billed as a spiritual successor to Dungeon Keeper to leave out a lot of the core elements of the Dungeon Keeper series. It's not really a bad game, but sometimes feels like one while playing it and thinking of what it should be. I had some fun with it, but it's definitely not worth the $40 price tag.

[mckerney]

If you really need a Dungeon Keeper fix you're much better off buying a copy GoG for $6 (http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/dungeon_keeper) with a copy that will easily run on Windows Vista/7. Like I said there is some fun to be had with Dungeons, but it's not worth it at the current price point when for the same amount of money you can buy Terraria, Magicka, Dungeon Defenders and Defense Grid together for the same cost as Dungeons.

Though with the Steam summer sale coming up I think you'll probably be able to get Dungeons on sale for around $10 if you want it.

[CrimsonFox]

Thanks mckerney.

I was reintroduced to the Tower Defense type of game with an outstanding downloadable game for the PS3 called PixelJunk Monsters.

Played it for hours and hours and days and days...

AWESOME fun using co-op.

Previous tower games I played eons ago...um....a PC game called Castles I remember.

[mckerney]

Thanks mckerney.

I was reintroduced to the Tower Defense type of game with an outstanding downloadable game for the PS3 called PixelJunk Monsters.

Played it for hours and hours and days and days...

AWESOME fun using co-op.

Previous tower games I played eons ago...um....a PC game called Castles I remember.

I really like tower defense games, but I wasn't really expecting one out of Dungeons. Thankfully there's a bit more to it than normal tower defense games as far as resources and your hero, but it's a game that feels like it would work a lot better with actual minions like Dungeon Keeper.

My favorite tower defense game to come out recently is definitely Defense Grid (http://store.steampowered.com/app/18500/). Worth the $10 regular cost but it will probably be pretty cheap if you wait for the Summer Sale.

[mckerney]

I really feel like I'm being too negative whenever I'm talking about Dungeons because I did find parts of it enjoyable, but unfortunately to me it's a game that's defined by what it didn't do and where it failed to meet expectations. It's an okay game that feels like with a few different design decisions could have been a pretty damn good game.

[CrimsonFox]

Burn baby burn in a DISCO INFERNO!

[CrimsonFox]

I like it when people are negative about games/movies etc. Most games have flaws yet can be good for awhile, others just are just not fun because of their flaws. I like hearing these. Don't like people thinking everything is great and shiny and happy.

[mckerney]

I like it when people are negative about games/movies etc. Most games have flaws yet can be good for awhile, others just are just not fun because of their flaws. I like hearing these. Don't like people thinking everything is great and shiny and happy.

I don't have a problem with pointing out the flaws of a game or being negative about it, it's the whenever I'm talking about Dungeons I'm far more negative about it then I am about games of similar quality. After covering everything I think about it i feel like people probably think they should avoid it when my opinion is more along the lines of, "it's worth trying, but I wouldn't pay too much for it and you should probably be careful with your expectations." I think the reason is that there's so much potential for greatness in games like Dungeon Keeper, but the genre has gone almost completely untouched since the release of Dungeon Keeper 2 in 1999. Overlord is really the only game I can think of that's been that similar. With Dungeons it looked like the genre would finally get a reboot, but when playing it you quickly find out it's not really like Dungeon Keeper, and if you go in expecting something like Dungeon Keeper you will be pretty disappointed. It takes some of the concepts of the Dungeon Keeper genre and adds some gameplay elements (the prestige and souls as a type currency used to get stronger creatures, killing those from the surface having more to it than just straight combat) that I think would work very well in it, but some of the other design decisions really hold i back from coming close to the same level.

It's like the A student that turns in a C+ project, you're far more disappointed than if you got the same thing from a C student. You're stuck looking at something that should have been a whole lot better.

[CrimsonFox]

I was excited about Overlord and enjoyed the Demo, but the game itself quickly went dry. Went too much for humor too much of the time and the game balance really wasn't there for me. Too easy is my problem with it. Nothing seemed worth doing. As far as Dungeons if it's claiming to be another dungeon keeper then it is the company's own fault if it goes down the tubes for putting expectations on it that are completely inaccurate. They should compare it with other tower games and say, it's a fantasy version of THAT. Since I have not really seen that befoire really. Good analogies btw. Myself I don't buy games much...rally much at all. I just bought Portal/orange box and peggle nights on steam just for the heck of it as I have been dying to play portal and the other is just lazy fun for 5 bucks. Before that I think it's been 4 years since i bought my last game so I always appreciate reviews.

[mckerney]

I was excited about Overlord and enjoyed the Demo, but the game itself quickly went dry. Went too much for humor too much of the time and the game balance really wasn't there for me. Too easy is my problem with it. Nothing seemed worth doing.

I wasn't a big fan of Overlord either, but it's the only game I can think of since Dungeon Keeper 2 where you're evil and have indirect control over your minions. Majesty has a somewhat similar combat style, but nothing as fun as being a dark lord deep underground.

As far as Dungeons if it's claiming to be another dungeon keeper then it is the company's own fault if it goes down the tubes for putting expectations on it that are completely inaccurate. They should compare it with other tower games and say, it's a fantasy version of THAT.

With the prerelease hype they were definitely trying to get people to associate it with Dungeon Keeper, and in someways in looks and feels the same. But then the game was pirated about two weeks before the release and when people starting talking about the gameplay Kalypso came out saying, "This was never intended to be another Dungeon Keeper." :redface:

Since I have not really seen that befoire really. Good analogies btw. Myself I don't buy games much...rally much at all. I just bought Portal/orange box and peggle nights on steam just for the heck of it as I have been dying to play portal and the other is just lazy fun for 5 bucks. Before that I think it's been 4 years since i bought my last game so I always appreciate reviews.

Love Valve games and Peggle. The Orange Box is an amazing value, I just finished replaying Half-Life 2 and had forgotten how amazing some parts of it are. Team Fortress 2 is also my favorite competitive multiplayer shooter. If only they included Left 4 Dead in there it would be completely unbeatable.

[CrimsonFox]

heh I restarted Half Life 2 last week after years. :) Definitely awesome textures and world but realize I'm annoyed at the same parts of the game I used to be :)
I still prefer Unreal to HL2.

[CrimsonFox]

And yeah I just liked digging all the rooms in DK2, watching my minions train, watching them eat chickens, and then slapping them every now and then just because i felt like it.