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ShoelessJ03
08-01-2011, 09:18 PM
Just figured I'd throw this out there. I wanted to try and target active owners. I was hoping to interest some of you online OOTP fanatics that share a love of football as well as an ootp/ baseball/ sim gaming addiction.

I am starting a new NFL keeper league and have spots open. The league will use individual defensive players. Instead of drafting an entire team defense, you will be able to draft individual players so you don't get killed if a team has a bad game and gets pounded.

There will be an 11 man starting lineup consisting of both offensive and defensive players with a bench of 6 reserve players.

Any other details you may be curious about, feel free to ask.

You can find and join the league by visiting the link below, or just search for 'Fourth and Forever' in the custom leagues.

Fourth and Forever Home - NFL.com - Free Fantasy Football (http://fantasy.nfl.com/league/391368)

Thank you.

George
08-13-2011, 09:59 AM
Thanks for setting this up. Looking forward to it.

ShoelessJ03
08-13-2011, 11:25 AM
Thanks for setting this up. Looking forward to it.


Same here. I'm looking forward to getting this thing rollin'.

We still have openings. If you're thinking about playing fantasy football this season, get in on this new keeper league.

Izulde
08-13-2011, 11:35 AM
Part of me wants to do this, because I've never done keeper or position defense. Another part of me thinks I'll embarrass myself, which will hurt since I'm usually pretty decent at traditional leagues. :D

ShoelessJ03
08-13-2011, 11:50 AM
Part of me wants to do this, because I've never done keeper or position defense. Another part of me thinks I'll embarrass myself, which will hurt since I'm usually pretty decent at traditional leagues. :D

I thought it would be interesting to have individual players vs an entire team defense based on one NFL team getting clobbered and ruining the game for your fantasy team.

FWIW I haven't been in a league that used individual players for a number of years. The last league I was in that allowed this option was back when Sandbox was still a free to play site.

Just something different that I thought might set the league apart from the thousands of other leagues out there.

We'd sure like to have you onboard!

BillJasper
08-13-2011, 12:05 PM
Not a fantasy baseball or OOTP player. But I love the NFL and would be interested in playing.

ShoelessJ03
08-13-2011, 12:11 PM
Not a fantasy baseball or OOTP player. But I love the NFL and would be interested in playing.


Would love to have ya onboard! Just follow the link to sign up.

Fourth and Forever Home - NFL.com - Free Fantasy Football (http://fantasy.nfl.com/league/391368)

It's going to be fun. Live draft, 11 man starting lineup using individual defensive players. Keeper settings are still up for debate as well. Trying to decide how many keeper players to allow. I want to have enough to roll your core / favorite players over without hurting the next year's draft.

There is also an option to allow draft pick trading, which I am trying to wrap my mind around.

mauchow
08-13-2011, 12:18 PM
This would also be my first keeper if I was to join. Is it too late?

BillJasper
08-13-2011, 12:19 PM
I think you allow players to keep four plus allow for trading draft picks.

ShoelessJ03
08-13-2011, 12:20 PM
This would also be my first keeper if I was to join. Is it too late?


No sir. Still have openings available. Head on over and claim a spot.

BillJasper
08-13-2011, 12:24 PM
In as the Kentucky Colonels, a nod to the former ABA franchise.

ShoelessJ03
08-13-2011, 12:41 PM
I think you allow players to keep four plus allow for trading draft picks.

Sounds about right. I originally had it set to 5, then recently changed to 3. 4 sounds like a happy medium.

In as the Kentucky Colonels, a nod to the former ABA franchise.

Great news! Just need a few more to fill this thing out.

ShoelessJ03
08-13-2011, 12:42 PM
I see you joined as well, Mau. Good to have ya on board.

Just an update. Only 3 spots remain open.

Thank you for the interest fellas.

Izulde
08-13-2011, 12:50 PM
Signed up. May change my team name.

ShoelessJ03
08-13-2011, 12:54 PM
Signed up. May change my team name.

Sounds good. Thanks for joining. It'll be a lot of fun, I think.

Just so you guys know, you can change your team name and logo by clicking on the 'my team' tab on the tool bar at the top of the league table. From there it'll open your team screen. Click on 'edit settings' from the tool bar and you'll see the options to edit logos and team names among some other options for your viewing preferences.

LastWhiteSoxFanStanding
08-13-2011, 12:57 PM
I have never done a keeper or an individual defensive player league either but thought this could be fun. In!

ShoelessJ03
08-13-2011, 12:58 PM
I have never done a keeper or an individual defensive player league either but thought this could be fun. In!

Glad to have ya! Especially so, since you're a fellow White Sox fan!

Update: only one spot remains open.

Thank you for all the interest this morning.

LastWhiteSoxFanStanding
08-13-2011, 01:22 PM
Us sox fans have to stick together :-)

A quick question:

I am definitely free next week to do the draft, but is it possible to move it back. I would hate to see somebody (especially me!) draft someone who gets injured during the preseason.

ShoelessJ03
08-13-2011, 01:26 PM
Us sox fans have to stick together :-)

A quick question:

I am definitely free next week to do the draft, but is it possible to move it back. I would hate to see somebody (especially me!) draft someone who gets injured during the preseason.

Yeah, that wouldn't be a problem for me.

George
08-13-2011, 01:33 PM
Yeah, that wouldn't be a problem for me.

That would be fine with me, too. Maybe the 28th?

BillJasper
08-13-2011, 01:37 PM
I'm more inclined to the 21st. Part of the fun is to see if your dream team can even make it to the regular season unscathed.

I've got Matthew Stafford on my other fantasy team. Needless to say I'm already holding my breath to see if he makes it to week 1. :lol:

ShoelessJ03
08-13-2011, 02:16 PM
A quick question:

I am definitely free next week to do the draft, but is it possible to move it back. I would hate to see somebody (especially me!) draft someone who gets injured during the preseason.

I'm more inclined to the 21st. Part of the fun is to see if your dream team can even make it to the regular season unscathed.

I've got Matthew Stafford on my other fantasy team. Needless to say I'm already holding my breath to see if he makes it to week 1. :lol:

I can definitely see the benefits to both sides here. There is a discussion going on about this via league page and I started a poll in regards to this as well that can be found on the right side of the league table.

Thanks for the input.

Izulde
08-13-2011, 03:38 PM
I'm a White Sox fan too, so there's a lot of White Sox fans in the league. :D

I think Bill's a Dolphins fan as well along with me.

ShoelessJ03
08-13-2011, 03:44 PM
I'm a White Sox fan too, so there's a lot of White Sox fans in the league. :D



The more the merrier. We can all wonder what happened to Adam Dunn together! haha

My brother, who is in the league, is a Padres fan. Another guy in the league is a Dbacks fan.

As far as my fav NFL team, I am affraid I cannot say as it may give away my drafting strategy! :lol: :D

BillJasper
08-13-2011, 03:52 PM
I think Bill's a Dolphins fan as well along with me.

Yep. Unfortunate but true. :lol:

Izulde
08-13-2011, 06:51 PM
Yep. Unfortunate but true. :lol:

Sad thing was, I found my Culpepper Dolphins jersey today and thought to myself, "...I'm actually nostalgic for Daunte. That's how sad we are."

Although I remember back in 2003 or 2004, I forget which, I drafted Culpepper in the first round and everyone laughed at me. He took me to the championship game and I looked like a damn genius.

BillJasper
08-13-2011, 07:02 PM
Sad thing was, I found my Culpepper Dolphins jersey today and thought to myself, "...I'm actually nostalgic for Daunte. That's how sad we are."



I keep wondering how much better we would have been if Pennington had been able to stay healthy. After Henne put up another abysmal performance I'm hoping they'll give the guy a call. Worst thing that happens is he tears his shoulder up again and we're back where we started.

ShoelessJ03
08-13-2011, 07:05 PM
Worst thing that happens is he tears his shoulder up again and we're back where we started.

:lol:

Great outlook!

LastWhiteSoxFanStanding
08-13-2011, 09:21 PM
The Dolphins qb situation is definitely dire but to put it somewhat in perspective, Jay Cutler is the best quarterback the Bears have had since Erik Kramer. And I mean that without a hint of irony *sigh*

BillJasper
08-13-2011, 09:22 PM
The Dolphins qb situation is definitely dire but to put it somewhat in perspective, Jay Cutler is the best quarterback the Bears have had since Erik Kramer. And I mean that without a hint of irony *sigh*

So you weren't impressed with the Cade McNown era?

LastWhiteSoxFanStanding
08-13-2011, 09:34 PM
I hate to be that guy, but I have another suggestion. I was looking at the point total leaders last year and the way things are set up is the top 25 players are all qbs. Chad Henne, Mark Sanchez and Ryan Fitzpatrick all have more points than Arian Foster.

I have a two pronged suggestion to balance things a bit.
1) Make completions worth only one point.
As it stand now, Peyton Manning made 900 points off pass completions which I think throws the scoring out of whack.
2) Give RBs one point per carry.

Without these suggestions Peyton Manning has 1,082 points and Arian Foster has 451.

With these suggestions Peyton Manning would have 632 points and Foster would have 778.

If you think that swings things too much in the rbs favor Mccoy would only have 543 points in the new system, and Mcfadden 555.

Thoughts? I am just hoping for a bit more balance in the league. It doesn't seem right to have average to terrible qbs having more points in the league than top tier rbs.

LastWhiteSoxFanStanding
08-13-2011, 09:38 PM
So you weren't impressed with the Cade McNown era?

No, but to give credit where credit is due, I was highly impressed with his girlfriend at the time, Playboy Bunny Brande Roderick

http://images.askmen.com/galleries/model/brande-roderick/pictures/brande-roderick-picture-2.jpg

Izulde
08-13-2011, 09:43 PM
I hate to be that guy, but I have another suggestion. I was looking at the point total leaders last year and the way things are set up is the top 25 players are all qbs. Chad Henne, Mark Sanchez and Ryan Fitzpatrick all have more points than Arian Foster.

I have a two pronged suggestion to balance things a bit.
1) Make completions worth only one point.
As it stand now, Peyton Manning made 900 points off pass completions which I think throws the scoring out of whack.
2) Give RBs one point per carry.

Without these suggestions Peyton Manning has 1,082 points and Arian Foster has 451.

With these suggestions Peyton Manning would have 632 points and Foster would have 778.

If you think that swings things too much in the rbs favor Mccoy would only have 543 points in the new system, and Mcfadden 555.

Thoughts? I am just hoping for a bit more balance in the league. It doesn't seem right to have average to terrible qbs having more points in the league than top tier rbs.

I kinda agree with this.

mckerney
08-13-2011, 09:44 PM
No, but to give credit where credit is due, I was highly impressed with his girlfriend at the time, Playboy Bunny Brande Roderick

http://images.askmen.com/galleries/model/brande-roderick/pictures/brande-roderick-picture-2.jpg

The Ladies Love Them Some Cade McNown | Epic Carnival (http://epiccarnival.wordpress.com/2007/07/24/the-ladies-love-them-some-cade-mcnown/)

BillJasper
08-13-2011, 09:45 PM
I kinda agree with this.

I was having similar thoughts as well. The scoring definitely seem out of whack.

BillJasper
08-13-2011, 09:47 PM
No, but to give credit where credit is due, I was highly impressed with his girlfriend at the time, Playboy Bunny Brande Roderick

http://images.askmen.com/galleries/model/brande-roderick/pictures/brande-roderick-picture-2.jpg

I bet she gives great helmet.

ShoelessJ03
08-13-2011, 10:21 PM
So you weren't impressed with the Cade McNown era?

In college, yes. I was a Cade fan.

I hate to be that guy, but I have another suggestion. I was looking at the point total leaders last year and the way things are set up is the top 25 players are all qbs. Chad Henne, Mark Sanchez and Ryan Fitzpatrick all have more points than Arian Foster.

I have a two pronged suggestion to balance things a bit.
1) Make completions worth only one point.
As it stand now, Peyton Manning made 900 points off pass completions which I think throws the scoring out of whack.
2) Give RBs one point per carry.

Without these suggestions Peyton Manning has 1,082 points and Arian Foster has 451.

With these suggestions Peyton Manning would have 632 points and Foster would have 778.

If you think that swings things too much in the rbs favor Mccoy would only have 543 points in the new system, and Mcfadden 555.

Thoughts? I am just hoping for a bit more balance in the league. It doesn't seem right to have average to terrible qbs having more points in the league than top tier rbs.

I am actually looking for 'that guy' to add input into the development of the league. I organized things as an outline for how I'd personally like to see a league run. That is definitely not written in stone and was actually hoping to gain insight from others in regards to the fine details to iron everything out.

No, but to give credit where credit is due, I was highly impressed with his girlfriend at the time, Playboy Bunny Brande Roderick

http://images.askmen.com/galleries/model/brande-roderick/pictures/brande-roderick-picture-2.jpg

Not too shabby...

I was having similar thoughts as well. The scoring definitely seem out of whack.

We can adjust it to become less whack! :D

I bet she gives great helmet.

I'd bet 5 large on it!

ShoelessJ03
08-13-2011, 10:25 PM
1) Make completions worth only one point.
As it stand now, Peyton Manning made 900 points off pass completions which I think throws the scoring out of whack.
2) Give RBs one point per carry.


Adjustments made. Thanks for the input fellas!

LastWhiteSoxFanStanding
08-21-2011, 09:35 AM
I am prepped and ready to go!

ShoelessJ03
08-21-2011, 11:12 AM
I am prepped and ready to go!

Hell yeah!

I'm ready to go as well. Just hoping I don't crack under the pressure of the war room. :lol:

Probabaly end up folding under pressure and taking Matt Leinart with my first pick. :banghead:

George
08-21-2011, 11:25 AM
Ready for the draft. Should be fun.

ShoelessJ03
08-06-2012, 03:31 PM
Hello again fellas!

With the 2012 season kickoff only a few weeks away, I wanted to start getting the league organized for it's second season. I am trying to find out how many returning owners we will have so I know how many replacement owners (hopefully none :cool: ) I will need to find.

The league is a keeper so you will be able to hang onto 4 of your players from last year.

Please respond here or on the league board so I know you're in for the sophomore season.

Looking forward to another fun year of football action!

CleBrownsfan
08-06-2012, 05:47 PM
I'd be interested if there is an opening...

ShoelessJ03
08-06-2012, 05:55 PM
I'd be interested if there is an opening...

Sounds good. I'll keep this thread updated with any openings. There's bound to be an open team or two.

So far, we have 4 owners returning. Just waiting to hear back from the others.

ShoelessJ03
08-06-2012, 06:29 PM
Already have 5/10 teams confirmed. Looking good so far.

Just a heads up that the draft is tentatively scheduled for Aug. 26th. That could change depending on what the majority of the league wants to do though.

Saul Goode
08-07-2012, 06:27 PM
I'm interested if you have any openings.

ShoelessJ03
08-07-2012, 06:50 PM
I'm interested if you have any openings.

Sounds good. You guys are both on the top of the list to replace any owners who do not claim their team for the upcoming season.

I will keep you posted on any openings that come up.

Thanks for the interest.

ShoelessJ03
08-09-2012, 07:32 PM
Just wanted to give an update so everyone knows where we stand at the moment.

So far I have positive feedback from all but 4 of our original owners and 2 (maybe 3) possible replacement owners. I want to give the original guys a few more days to respond before awarding the franchises to new owners.

I think with pre-season kicking into full gear this weekend, it's probably about the time people start thinking about fantasy 2012. It's only fair to give them an opportunity to claim their team.

Hang tight and I'm pretty sure we will have something for those interested.

Thanks for the interest so far!

ShoelessJ03
08-15-2012, 02:51 PM
We could still use a couple active owners. I have sent out a couple emails to the league and have yet to get a response from a few teams. At this point I am ready to start awarding teams to interested new owners.

If you have any questions about the league or available teams / rosters, let me know.

I want a full boat of active owners when the 2012 season kicks off.

Thanks!

BillJasper
08-15-2012, 03:06 PM
We could still use a couple active owners. I have sent out a couple emails to the league and have yet to get a response from a few teams. At this point I am ready to start awarding teams to interested new owners.

If you have any questions about the league or available teams / rosters, let me know.

I want a full boat of active owners when the 2012 season kicks off.

Thanks!

Did you recieve my email? I'm not going to be able to participate this year.

ShoelessJ03
08-15-2012, 03:41 PM
Did you recieve my email? I'm not going to be able to participate this year.


Yessir, I definitely got your email and appreciate your response. There are a couple other guys who are still MIA though.

You always have an open invite to come back if you get a chance.

Edit - Love your signature btw hahaha

LastWhiteSoxFanStanding
08-15-2012, 05:51 PM
Sorry for the late response, but I also can't rejoin. I think it was a great league, but I just don't have the time for it this year.

ShoelessJ03
08-15-2012, 06:30 PM
Sorry for the late response, but I also can't rejoin. I think it was a great league, but I just don't have the time for it this year.

Thank you for the compliment on the league and for your response letting me know you won't be available this time around. The same thing goes for you, if you have the time next year, you have an open invitation back.

On that note, while we are losing some solid players, we have also picked up a couple as well. So, all is not lost.

Keep the interest coming via PM and response to this thread. I will provide the info you need to get setup in the league.

Thank you fellas!

ShoelessJ03
08-21-2012, 03:45 PM
Ok, we are just a few days away from the draft (held Sunday, Aug 26) and we have one final open team. Here is a quick overview of the available team's roster. You are able to retain 4 players as your keepers rolling into the 2012 season. Let me know via PM or response to this thread if you are interested. Thank you.

QB - Matthew Stafford, Drew Brees
RB - Fred Jackson, Peyton Hillis, BenJarvus Green-Ellis
WR - Dez Bryant, Donald Driver, Desean Jackson, Plaxico Burress
TE - Dallas Clark,
D - Curtis Lofton, DeMarcus Ware, Justin Tuck, Antrelle Rolle, Antonio Cromartie, Asante Samuel, Justin Smith, Roman Harper