WW CXXVII: Fight for the Cosmic Cube (GAME OVER see post #909)

[Chubby]

Background:
What was once thought gone forever, has now returned: The Cosmic Cube! The cube holds incredible power, it would be wise to familiar yourself quick with:

Cosmic Cube - Marvel Universe Wiki: The definitive online source for Marvel super hero bios. (http://marvel.com/universe/Cosmic_Cube)

It is certainly not needed to have a strong grasp on the Cube or it's history but may enhance your enjoyment of the game to at least have a little background information.

As good and evil fight over the cube, questions remain... Who will control the cube? Who made the cube? What powers does it grant? Some have said the cube allows for any desire the holder has, are there consequences for using the cube???

Factions:
Players: 12+
Good: Marvel heroes
Evil: Marvel Villains

You can not select your character, you will be given one. You will be either good or bad. You may or may not have PM abilities with some or all characters. Please include myself on all PMs


Each side starts with the same number of players. You may or may not know other team members.

There are some rules that govern the game that are hidden from view.

Win Conditions:
One side wins when the other is eliminated.

Characters:
You are a marvel universe hero/villain from a predetermined list of characters.

Powers:
Common werewolf roles will be in the game. These may change as the game progresses/


Deadlines:
Day ends at 9PM EST
Night ends at 4AM EST

As I work early in the morning, night results will be posted before I leave for work in the morning. Weekend deadlines will be determined by the players.

Day Cycle:
If you have abilities you can use during the day, you may use them. Please be aware that as I work mon-fri approx. 6am-3pm (6pm on fridays) I may not be able to process actions immediately upon PM.

Lynch (End of Day Cycle):
Each participant needs to submit a vote for lynch. Ties will be resolved with the earliest vote.

Night Cycle:
If you have a night power, you can use it now.

Order of Night Actions:
1. Defense actions
2. Research actions
3. Attack actions


Additional Game Notes:
1. No editing posts
2. Character powers will take precedence over any rules posted in this thread. The rules here are meant to apply to the majority, but in some cases may not apply to a small minority
3. Conditional orders are allowed. You may also send in orders early, up to 1 phase. In other words, you could send in night actions now but can not send in day 2 actions now; you'd have to wait til night 1 started.

[Chubby]

1. MrBug708
2. Danny - (mauled Night 3) Captain America, (resurrected Day 4), (killed Day 5)
3. Narcizo - (lynched Day 7) Scarlet Witch
4. Autumn - (killed Day 5) Red Skull
5. bhlloy - (murdered Day 4) Professor Xavier
6. mckerney - (lynched day 1) Sub-Mariner
7. Zinto
8. jeheinz - (lynched Day 5) Kang
9. Darth Vilus - (lynched day 2) The Hulk
10. Chief Rum - (murdered day 2) Magneto
11. Jackal - (lynched day 3) Thor
12. Telle - (killed Day 4) Doctor Doom
13. SnDvLs - (lynched Day 6) MODOK
14. Mauboy - (night killed night 6) Quicksilver
15. ntndeacon - (killed Day 6) Wolverine
16. hoopsguy - (lynched Day 4) Apocolypse
17. CrimsonFox

[Chubby]

reserved 2

[Chubby]

reserved 3

[Chubby]

If you would like to remove yourself from the game please post, otherwise I'll assume if you were in CF's game you'd like to be in this game too.

Will send out roles later tonight.1st deadline tomorrow?

[Chubby]

who is #14?

nevermind :)

[CrimsonFox]

mauboy :)

[CrimsonFox]

Thanks again for running chubby. WIll watch from the sidelines for now while I heal and get my stuff together.

[Danny]

Oh yes, I am in in in

[ntndeacon]

me too

[Chubby]

will start sending out roles at 9pm

[CrimsonFox]

I keep thinking this game is a Beastie Boys game when I see the thread on the front page. "Fight for the...right to partyyyyyyyyyy"

[Chubby]

starting PMs

[Chubby]

all PMs have been sent, Day 1 ends 9pm EST thursday

[Danny]

Batman checking in, I sure we can catch the Joker and his team of misfits

[Danny]

I am not sure exactly how things are going to work in this game as their is an equal number of good and bad guys. I am guessing both sides will have day and night abilities.

[MrBug708]

Is Batman even a Marvel character?

[Danny]

no :)

[bhlloy]

So what would typically be considered the common werewolf roles?

BG, seer, duke for villager and brutal and cunning for wolf?

[Danny]

Considering the number of wolves, I would guess that many of the wolves don't know each other. This can be done either by small groups of wolves or one primary group and a bunch of individual wolves. Further, I would expect things to be kept close to the theme of Marvel and lone hero / evil types to be on their own and teams of people to perhaps know one another.

[jeheinz72]

Vote Jackal

Hey buddy!

[Autumn]

Wow, just got on the computer and found out a new game is started ... and I'm in it!

I'm all for this, by the way. I'll go read the rules and see what's up.

[Autumn]

Wow, equal number sides! This is going to be a very different kind of game. I tend to agree with Danny, there must be a limit of some sort on how much the bad guys know each other. Maybe none of them know each other. Should make for some interesting voting.

I just drank a bunch of wine before sitting down so I won't try to do much more heavy thinking, I'll be back in the morning.

[MrBug708]

From the rules

You may or may not have PM abilities with some or all characters.

I would imagine there might be someone on either side who knows everyones character that is good/bad?

[Darth Vilus]

i just saw that i had a PM and was like "Oh s***, did i miss day 1 again!?"

i got lucky though lol, this sounds fun

[ntndeacon]

From the rules

You may or may not have PM abilities with some or all characters.

I would imagine there might be someone on either side who knows everyones character that is good/bad?

I find it hard to believe there will be someone who knows everyone who is good or bad. As someone else mentioned ...perhaps some team of folks know each others. but I wouldnt assume many know much this early. Perhaps there are still teams that will form. I can see certain folks looking for others in ther group like a mini seer (inhis group outta his group.)

[mckerney]

I already have this Horadric Cube and a Companion Cube and now I have to fight you guys for another kind?

Being new to this type of game with equal numbers I'm not sure if I should tell everyone I'm a vanilla good guy or bad guy... How about everyone just pretend I'm on their side, okay?

[Narcizo]

Oh look! A game. Wasn't expecting that. I'm not sure everyone is going to be turning up for this one. Does everyone know it was going to go off?

So basically this is like the Chess game (sorry to harp on) but without the wolves? So voting records are going to be pretty meaningless and, erm, gut reads aren't going to be much use either. So what are we supposed to base our votes on?

Given that there's 15 players and the sides are meant to be even can we assume that there's a neutral role in the game?

[Narcizo]

Vote mckerney

Presuming that there's a neutral in the game (I don't see how the rules can be correct otherwise then my maths tells me that there's a more than 50% chance of him being an enemy. Very good odds for a game of werewolf.

And a game where Jackal can't be a wolf. Doesn't that cause a rift in the space/time continuum?

[Chubby]

I had left 1 spot open as yes, I needed an even number of players and there was a quick turnaround due to circumstances. hoopsguy is player #16

[Chubby]

I will try to answer any questions via PM when I run my daily errands for work. If you do have a question, please put "Question" in the subject line of the PM so it stands out as I only have a limited amount of time to do my errands. I usually do those around 10-11EST tho some days I can't do them until I leave work. Just a heads up to everyone

[Chief Rum]

Checking in. How y'all doin'?

[Danny]

Hoops is a wolf

[mauchow]

hi! good guy here! All villains must die!

[hoopsguy]

Hoops is a wolf

Negative, I'm a hero. Not sure why people keep referring to villagers and wolves when there is a Cosmic Cube that needs to be secured.

[Chubby]

a bright light flashes and blinds you. When your vision returns you feel slightly different as if something has changed. Has someone used the cube? If so, who and for what ends?

[mauchow]

vote mrbug

Getting my votes in early this time.

[Autumn]

With even teams, everyone's going to be looking to assess what side everybody is on, and once we can figure that out it becomes a brute battle. In this sort of setup nobody wants to get lynched, more so than usual, which makes things hard. I wonder, if the setup wasn't good vs evil, would we have people from the other faction just outing themselves? We're so used to the bad guys hiding, but it doesn't seem they need to this game.

I'll go look at the player list and find some sucker to vote for.

[Autumn]

Mr. Bug is on my list of people who made it to the end last game. He's also on a list of people who tend to be quiet early, so makes good day 1 vote material. And because I'm not afraid to be a second voter:

<b>vote mrbug708</b>

[Zinto]

Good morning everyone.

This seems like it is going to be a tougher game to really get a grasp on since it doesn't matter if you are good or evil too much at the beginning since it seems like everyone is going to be guessing other then those who have some sort of PM rights.

[Chief Rum]

Yes, Autumn has it and it has been suggested by others. We may have some traditional WW roles, but this is not a traditional game. We're going to have to approach this one differently.

My guess is that we need to break from our usual mold of thinking of villagers and wolves, good guys and bad guys. Despite the titles Chubby provides for each side, this is like Team A and Team B, further labeled by the heroes therein being based on either good Marvel characters or evil ones.

We should all be working to gather information on one another, discovering everyone's powers and contacting our "side" somehow.

I'm not afraid to say that I do not currently have any powers, nor am I able to PM anyone. So it's like I am a vanilla villager. I'll keep my actual hero name to myself, though.

[Zinto]

I agree that vote history is going to be tough to use but is something that we maybe able to take advantage of some point down the line.

[bhlloy]

vote telle

Usual day 1 vote for very little reason, no point in putting a third on Bug and picked someone I remember going pretty far in the last couple games

[Narcizo]

I agree that vote history is going to be tough to use but is something that we maybe able to take advantage of some point down the line.

Ah! But which "we"?

[Telle]

Good afternoon everyone!

Votes as of post #43:

1 - The Jackal - jeheinz (21)
1 - mckerney - Narcizo (29)
2 - MrBug - mauboy (37), Autumn (39)
1 - Telle - bhlloy (43)

Yet to check in: The Jackal, SnDvls, hoopsguy

[MrBug708]

The two guys I thought about voting have vote for me. Now it would just look bad :(

[Telle]

I thought retaliatory votes were typical on Day 1? :)

[Narcizo]

Telle, Hoops has checked in. Sorta.

[Telle]

Telle, Hoops has checked in. Sorta.

Thanks.. missed that one.

[mckerney]

Negative, I'm a hero. Not sure why people keep referring to villagers and wolves when there is a Cosmic Cube that needs to be secured.


It's going to be fun seeing everyone who claims to be a hero day one turn around with, "Uh, yeah. I'm actually a bad guy," if we happen to lynch heroes on the first couple days. :)

[The Jackal]

Didn't have internet access at all on my trip, so I'm glad the game didn't have a deadline yesterday. Consider my surprise when I checked my email and saw a PM from chubby!

Anyways, I'm spending the whole day cleaning up the mess the cats left for us, lots of fun.

I'll need to read up on the wiki some to boost my knowledge about the game topic.

VOTE MCKERNEY

[The Jackal]

And a game where Jackal can't be a wolf. Doesn't that cause a rift in the space/time continuum?

Wolf, villain, shere khan, rodent of unusual size, it's all the same. I'll go ahead and say it:

I'm not a villain.

Hopefully there's a soothsayer. :D

[MrBug708]

I thought retaliatory votes were typical on Day 1? :)

Fine then.

Vote Mauboy

That's for killing the DKBL :(

[hoopsguy]

It's going to be fun seeing everyone who claims to be a hero day one turn around with, "Uh, yeah. I'm actually a bad guy," if we happen to lynch heroes on the first couple days. :)

Then I'll just say something like, "well, my character is a hero in the comic books but I'm a villain in this game" or something along those lines. You know, typical werewolf spin.

With that in mind, I'm honestly not sure how to make any sense of factions on Day 1. I'm in the same boat as Chief (no powers, no PM) right now and no idea how to help/hurt my faction. So today feels awfully random - moreso because with even sides I've got a >50% chance of hitting a teammate rather than the usual 20% or so of villager getting wolf on Day 1.

Final note - I'm pretty familiar with the earlier story lines around the Cosmic Cube (Red Skull vs Captain America, have to figure they are both in this game) but might not know recent events. My comic knowledge up to about 1995 is pretty good, after that I'm likely Googling stuff like everyone else.

[hoopsguy]

For now, I'll cast a vote on the guy who hasn't shown up. I'll absolutely move it if SnDvls shows up, since I haven't played in a game with him for a long time.

I just don't want to see the quiet/no-show stuff get pushed as a vote later in the game like we saw with NTN last game. I was pretty sure it was a wolf push that time, but it is a hard argument to counter when you don't have good info. Better to get it squared away early if it is going to be an issue.

VOTE SNDVLS

[Darth Vilus]

I've been trying to get the damn pc to work for 40min! Ugh, sucks

[Darth Vilus]

And not that it means anything at this point but I'm a hero

[Darth Vilus]

And a really good one ;)

[Narcizo]

I've got nothing to contribute at this stage. No powers and no information. Difficult to see exactly what we're supposed to vote off of on day one.

[ntndeacon]

Just to get one of the mentions a bit higher (lots of folks with one or 2 votes at the moment)

Vote Mckerney

[Chubby]

home from work for the night

[Chubby]

***NEWS ALERT!!!***

[Darth Vilus]

Im gonna head out in a little less than an hour because of work and be out all day but I'll be around tomorrow.

just FYI

[Autumn]

I think i'ts strange for people to feel lost because they don't have any information or powers. That's fairly standard for Werewolf. You vote the same way you always would on day one, really, when you don't know who the bad guys are and don't have any secret info.

[Chubby]

Breaking news from Capitol Hill

A press conference just concluded from the head of the F.B.I.

"We're very concerned over recent strange happenings in the country and are worried that it could be related to a recent surge in superhero/supervillain clashes we've seen throughout the country. Effective immediately: any known super hero or villain will be dealt with thru extreme prejudice." - F.B.I. Director

When asked to clairfy his comments, the director only responded with "Test me and find out"

[Darth Vilus]

When do the authorities ever win? Honestly

[Darth Vilus]

I think i'ts strange for people to feel lost because they don't have any information or powers. That's fairly standard for Werewolf. You vote the same way you always would on day one, really, when you don't know who the bad guys are and don't have any secret info.

Yup yup, the only thing that has changed is the probability of hitting a member from the opposing side

[Darth Vilus]

Vote Jackal

No reason, day 1

[SnDvls]

ok I'm out of the loop....CF's game was on hold....what game is this then???

[Autumn]

ok I'm out of the loop....CF's game was on hold....what game is this then???

*points up*

[hoopsguy]

UNVOTE SNDVLS

[hoopsguy]

I'll put a vote on Jackal for his continuing run of long-lived wolves. Because that seems like a perfectly fair reason for voting him this game, spitting in the eye of random.org, and basically disregarding anything having to do with this game. But seriously, I'm never quite sure how to characterize Day 1 votes when they are more or less whimsical.

VOTE THE JACKAL

[SnDvls]

*points up*

I'm getting there....glad I jumpped on FOFC today as I wasn't planning on it.

got my role PM from Chubby and now just finished the thread...was this originally game #100 I'm guessing?

[The Jackal]

This was bound to happen eventually, just bad luck that people decide to do it when I'm a good guy. :)

[SnDvls]

is this the same signup list from CF's game then? or is this the old game #100 that never happened.

I'm in no matter what just wondering if I'm going to get a PM down the road from CF for that game.

[The Jackal]

This is the same signup list, check the end of the Illuminati thread, CF couldn't run it right now.

[The Jackal]

And no this isn't game 100, I believe that was Danny's game where everyone picked a character and he thought up cool roles, though it got postponed past 100.

[Telle]

is this the same signup list from CF's game then? or is this the old game #100 that never happened.

I'm in no matter what just wondering if I'm going to get a PM down the road from CF for that game.

This is the signup from CF's game.

[SnDvls]

This is the same signup list, check the end of the Illuminati thread, CF couldn't run it right now.

Thanks

I had read it was postponed, but I guess I assumed Chubby was going to do a new signup....it's all cool. I'm good now

[Telle]

Votes as of post #78:

3 - The Jackal - jeheinz (21), Darth Vilus (68), hoopsguy (72)
3 - mckerney - Narcizo (29), The Jackal (51), ntndeacon (60)
2 - MrBug - mauboy (37), Autumn (39)
1 - Telle - bhlloy (43)
1 - mauboy - MrBug (53)

[Chubby]

Blade!

[CrimsonFox]

Thanks

I had read it was postponed, but I guess I assumed Chubby was going to do a new signup....it's all cool. I'm good now


heya sndvls, sorry for the confusion. we didn't want to waste any more time before a game started and chubby was ready so we just thought using the existing list would be faster and less likely to lose people.
glad you found the new game

[SnDvls]

heya sndvls, sorry for the confusion. we didn't want to waste any more time before a game started and chubby was ready so we just thought using the existing list would be faster and less likely to lose people.
glad you found the new game

no prob....like I said glad I check the board today as I wasn't planning on it...and then I'd get voted out day 1 for "not checking in" which would suck as this is my 1st WW game in like a year or so.

[Chief Rum]

This is rather late in the day to suggest this, but is there a reason to not say we're good or evil?

Think about it--they're just labels. It's not like it usually is, where the smaller numbered wolves need to hide from the bigger villager group to survive. We don't actually have wolves and villagers. We have two teams, one good and one evil. But good and evil are just labels, like "Red Team" and "Blue Team".

Is there any reason why we can't just all start announcing our allegiances, if not our names or powers? We can establish the teams right from the start, and then just go toe to toe in this one.

[CrimsonFox]

well welcome back!

[Zinto]

I don't have a lot of time so I am just going to throw a second vote on Telle for no real reason.

Vote Telle

[jeheinz72]

CR - but what if there is some 3rd party to all this? I don't think giving either team a road map seems like it needs to be done

[SnDvls]

vote ntndeacon

no reason really.
And I know, I know why add another name to the list.
Well I don't really like anyone from that list and it's day 1.

here's my breakdown of the votes as cast

1)jeheinz for the jackal - just a funny pile on vote
2)Narcizo for mckerney - I bet this one comes off as it was faulty reading of the # of players. IF not and he's good I'll be looking here for sure tomorrow
3) mauboy for MrBug and MrBug for mauboy - vote and retalitation, wash
4) Autumn for MrBug - not sure if I like the reason and put MrBug in a quick vote leader category, but still too soon to gather anything from it.
5) bhlloy for telle - random day one vote like mine :shrugs:
6) Jackal for mckerney - interesting vote here making it a two way tie for vote leader when he could have done a retalitation vote ala mauboy/MrBug gets me thinking for sure, don't want to pile on someone whom it seems gets piled on in WW from my past readings
7) ntndeacon for mckerney...this makes vote #3 and says "lots of people with 2" but at the time it was only mckerney and MrBug with 2 and lots of people with 1. This is probally what put me over to vote him
8) Darth for TheJackal - says no reason
9) hoops for Jackal - another hmmmm moment as it makes a two way tie and puts the heat back on Jackal to defend himself.


got a lot going on here I know....just my thoughts....right or wrong feel free to chime in too.

[SnDvls]

dola - now I need to factor in Zinto...damn you for making my long post seem outdated already

[mckerney]

Vote Jackal

[Telle]

Let's keep it a three-horse race..

vote mckerney

[The Jackal]

Hmm, earlier when I said I'm not a villain I hadn't paid much attention to the rules. If we're equal numbered then that was just inviting all the villains to vote for me knowing I'm not one of them, and assuming there are groups and/or individuals on both sides of the coin. There has to be something going on behind the scenes that makes a full reveal of sides not impact the game in a negative way.

[Telle]

Let's keep it a three-horse race..

vote mckerney

Grrr... wrong person... both started with "m" and I confused myself.

unvote mckerney
vote MrBug

[Telle]

Grrr... wrong person... both started with "m" and I confused myself.

unvote mckerney
vote MrBug

Not that it really matters, as it's a random Day 1 vote either way... but my "three horse race" comment just doesn't make sense otherwise :)

[Danny]

We have a vote count?

[Telle]

Votes as of post #95:

4 - The Jackal - jeheinz (21), Darth Vilus (68), hoopsguy (72), mckerney (90)
3 - mckerney - Narcizo (29), The Jackal (51), ntndeacon (60)
3 - MrBug - mauboy (37), Autumn (39), Telle (93)
2 - Telle - bhlloy (43), Zinto (86)
1 - mauboy - MrBug (53)
1 - ntndeacon - SnDvls (88)

Yet to vote: Danny, Chief Rum

Everyone has checked in.

[Danny]

Alright, looks like primarily a three way race at this point, but let's make it 4 for now.

Vote Telle

[Danny]

Though I would prefer not to have the vote updates go away, so maybe that wasn't a smart vote.

[Danny]

I think i'ts strange for people to feel lost because they don't have any information or powers. That's fairly standard for Werewolf. You vote the same way you always would on day one, really, when you don't know who the bad guys are and don't have any secret info.

WHen it doubt, vote Autumn?

[Telle]

WHen it doubt, vote Autumn?

Oh sure, you say that now... last time I voted Autumn I got lectured to ;)

[Chubby]

A bright light flashes again and blinds you. When your vision returns you feel slightly different as if something has changed. Has someone used the cube yet again? If so, who and for what ends? Will you ever receive anymore information or are you forever banished to the land of ignorance?

[Chubby]

I have updated the rules in the 1st post. Section: additional game rules #3

Just a clarification for all.

[Chief Rum]

CR - but what if there is some 3rd party to all this? I don't think giving either team a road map seems like it needs to be done

heinz! It has been forever since I played with you.

Okay, back to the game...

I wouldn't be surprised if there was a third party, but there's no guarantee that we'll all tell the truth if we reveal either, with a villain saying he's a hero or vice versa.

A team reveal certainly is not going to be something we can accept at face value, but it will at least give us a new layer of information to work with, and allow us to start focusing on determining what is true and what is not, the basis of all WW games. Plus, it allows us to work together as teams and see what comes of that as well.

[jeheinz72]

heinz! It has been forever since I played with you.

Okay, back to the game...

I wouldn't be surprised if there was a third party, but there's no guarantee that we'll all tell the truth if we reveal either, with a villain saying he's a hero or vice versa.

A team reveal certainly is not going to be something we can accept at face value, but it will at least give us a new layer of information to work with, and allow us to start focusing on determining what is true and what is not, the basis of all WW games. Plus, it allows us to work together as teams and see what comes of that as well.

What up!

I think the proof will be in the puddin' (aka voting). We can all just lie about what we are, but votes will tell the real deal Holyfield.

[MrBug708]

unvote - Mauboy

vote - Telle

She wanted a three horse race

[Telle]

self-preservation..

unvote MrBug
vote The Jackal

[Chief Rum]

What up!

I think the proof will be in the puddin' (aka voting). We can all just lie about what we are, but votes will tell the real deal Holyfield.

Ah, but we'll get the votes anyway. That's going to happen whether we reveal or not. Revealing our teams gives us another level of information on which to judge one another.

[Chubby]

5 - The Jackal - jeheinz (21), Darth Vilus (68), hoopsguy (72), mckerney (90), Telle (106)
3 - mckerney - Narcizo (29), The Jackal (51), ntndeacon (60)
2 - MrBug - mauboy (37), Autumn (39)
3 - Telle - bhlloy (43), zinto (86), MrBug (105)

any mistakes?

[Telle]

5 - The Jackal - jeheinz (21), Darth Vilus (68), hoopsguy (72), mckerney (90), Telle (106)
3 - mckerney - Narcizo (29), The Jackal (51), ntndeacon (60)
2 - MrBug - mauboy (37), Autumn (39)
3 - Telle - bhlloy (43), zinto (86), MrBug (105)

any mistakes?

Danny voted for me in post #97, and SnDvls voted for ntndeacon in post #88.

[Chubby]

5 - The Jackal - jeheinz (21), Darth Vilus (68), hoopsguy (72), mckerney (90), Telle (106)
3 - mckerney - Narcizo (29), The Jackal (51), ntndeacon (60)
2 - MrBug - mauboy (37), Autumn (39)
4 - Telle - bhlloy (43), zinto (86), Danny (97), MrBug (105)
1 - ntndeacon - SnDvls (88)

any mistakes?

[bhlloy]

Ah, but we'll get the votes anyway. That's going to happen whether we reveal or not. Revealing our teams gives us another level of information on which to judge one another.

I don't like this idea because of the possibility of items/powers that can be used specifically on one person, which seems to be a pretty high likelihood in these kinds of games. I know nothing about this universe but I'm guessing there are relationships between good guys and bad guys and potentially one bad guy could have a power that takes out multiple good guys in one shot or as a NK ability if he can identify them. Revealing teams would be a very good way to narrow that list down and I'd definitely be against any mass reveal of roles.

[Chief Rum]

I don't like this idea because of the possibility of items/powers that can be used specifically on one person, which seems to be a pretty high likelihood in these kinds of games. I know nothing about this universe but I'm guessing there are relationships between good guys and bad guys and potentially one bad guy could have a power that takes out multiple good guys in one shot or as a NK ability if he can identify them. Revealing teams would be a very good way to narrow that list down and I'd definitely be against any mass reveal of roles.

I could see that, but I still think the potential benefits outweigh the negatives, especially given we're not revealing names.

[Chief Rum]

I always prefer three horse races on "random" days like today to two, so that we have a higher chance of actually getting information out of the vote. So I will vote up mckerney to get him even with Telle and one behind The Jackal.

VOTE MCKERNEY

[Chief Rum]

Okay, another tack... anyone want to take a crack at what the flashes mean? Do we take Chubby's posts at face value and presume someone is using the cube?

[hoopsguy]

I'm guessing some kind of powers (or PM rights) are being granted to players, but that is 100% guesswork.

This is based on you (Chief) suggesting that you didn't have powers yet, coupled with me not having them either ... but hoping that I might at some point.

[Chief Rum]

I'm guessing some kind of powers (or PM rights) are being granted to players, but that is 100% guesswork.

This is based on you (Chief) suggesting that you didn't have powers yet, coupled with me not having them either ... but hoping that I might at some point.

I am guessing you're right, but what determines what is happening there? Is it random? Or predetermined? Or did someone start with an ability to make these happen? Or maybe someone has the cube?

[Danny]

Don't know if the power thing is good / evil related but I also started without powers

[MrBug708]

I'm guessing some kind of powers (or PM rights) are being granted to players, but that is 100% guesswork.

This is based on you (Chief) suggesting that you didn't have powers yet, coupled with me not having them either ... but hoping that I might at some point.

If this is true, I failed to receive the PM (if that means powers are activated)

[Chief Rum]

If this is true, I failed to receive the PM (if that means powers are activated)

I think hoops meant that some players may have been granted powers there. I don't think he meant everyone.

[Danny]

This is a tough game since any info Someone reveals is just as likely to help the other side

[Chubby]

5 - The Jackal - jeheinz (21), Darth Vilus (68), hoopsguy (72), mckerney (90), Telle (106)
4 - mckerney - Narcizo (29), The Jackal (51), ntndeacon (60), Chief Rum (113)
2 - MrBug - mauboy (37), Autumn (39)
4 - Telle - bhlloy (43), zinto (86), Danny (97), MrBug (105)
1 - ntndeacon - SnDvls (88)

[Zinto]

I do not like the idea of everyone revealing their side. To me that doesn't make sense for anyone to do unless they want to hurt their team by signaling out what side they are on.

[mauchow]

unvote bug
Vote mckerney

[Danny]

Don't really want a tie
[B]
Unvote telle
Vote Mckerney

[Telle]

unvote The Jackal
vote mckerney

eliminating the tie

[Danny]

Oops unvote telle
Vote Mckerney

[Chubby]

4 - The Jackal - jeheinz (21), Darth Vilus (68), hoopsguy (72), mckerney (90)
7 - mckerney - Narcizo (29), The Jackal (51), ntndeacon (60), Chief Rum (113), mauboy (123), Telle (125), Danny (126)
2 - MrBug - Autumn (39)
3 - Telle - bhlloy (43), zinto (86), MrBug (105)
1 - ntndeacon - SnDvls (88)

[Chubby]

timecheck

[Chubby]

timecheck2

[Chubby]

A back and forth discussion for most of the day led to 3 people being suspected of treachery. A late move by several sealed the fate of mckerney. Mckerney was brought to the open space in field where you had all gathered and chained to the spot. The heavens opened and a white light shot down piercing mckerney, killing him.

Everyone rushed to the body. Who was mckerney REALLY? Was he good or evil?

mckerney was Prince Namor the Sub-Mariner
Sub-Mariner - Marvel Universe Wiki: The definitive online source for Marvel super hero bios. (http://marvel.com/universe/Sub-Mariner)

[Chubby]

PMs going out shortly.

[Danny]

So yay? Boo?

[SnDvls]

Damn we lost a good guy today

[bhlloy]

Well that's a non-committal biography if ever I read one. Does everyone in this game switch sides multiple times? :D

[Danny]

I thought submariner was bad?

[Chief Rum]

Is he a good guy? He seemed to be the cause of a lot of mass destruction in the bio I read. I can't tell half the time who is good or bad in these universes anymore.

[SnDvls]

....or if you read the linked wiki he seemed to flip flop too. I had always thought he was a good guy allied with the fantastic 4 and defenders

[Chubby]

PMs have been sent to appropriate people. Night 1 deadline is Friday 4am. I will post night results and send PMs before I head to work in the AM.

[Telle]

I think, maybe, the description in the write-up puts him in the end being more good than bad?

[Danny]

Maybe he wasn't on either side yet? Maybe explain why no one tried to save him

[Chief Rum]

PMs have been sent to appropriate people. Night 1 deadline is Friday 4am. I will post night results and send PMs before I head to work in the AM.

PMs after the day cycle?

I find this interesting.

[Chubby]

also, if everyone would vote for whether they'd like a saturday 9pm EST day 3 deadline or a sunday 9pm EST day 3 deadline that'd be awesome. Doesn't need to be bolded or anything. Day 4 will end on monday night 9pm EST regardless.

[SnDvls]

Sunday for me

[SnDvls]

I did some more research in the Marvel Handbook...i think he was good in the end.

[Danny]

Swell I don't know, but you seem to be trying awfully hard to indicate he was good

[The Jackal]

Apologies for not being around at the deadline, got involved watching the Redskins/Ravens and setting up my new PC, which is of course an exciting event.

Happy to still be alive, upset that it seemed mckerney was likely on my side?

[The Jackal]

I think Sunday is best for a deadline.

[The Jackal]

What a crazy wiki bio for that character.. it seems like most of the time he was leaning towards the side of evil just because he was anti-humanity, but also teamed with Captain America and disavowed violence at one point.

But he was also part of the Illuminati (hey, CF!). Sounds like he could be good, evil, or neutral. I'd lean towards evil just because of his often opposition to the Fantastic Four but it's pretty hard to say. I guess I'm just hoping evil at this point.

[The Jackal]

PMs after the day cycle?

I find this interesting.

I guess that means some people had D1 powers, I certainly didn't.

[Darth Vilus]

I'm guessing evil as well. in a spiderman game i have he was a villain

[hoopsguy]

Submariner is a tough one to place; really depends on context. But for the most part, at least during the time I actively read comics, he was a good guy. The times he was cast as bad usually involved him getting in some kind of political dispute around his homeland (Atlantis) or over desiring Invisible Girl/Woman but I think those lame stories ended in the 60s.

He was a good guy during the WW II era, fighting with Captain America against the Nazis, if I recall correctly. I'm still not sure about era in this game, but since Captain America and the Red Skull are so intimately tied to the Cosmic Cube storylines that is where I would place him.

[hoopsguy]

I don't feel like I've got any more clarity on how to act today than I did yesterday. While I think that Submariner should be classified as a hero, I'm not 100% sure that Marvel comic roles absolutely correlate to good/evil in this particular game. This appears to be a "no reveal on death" game, so we've got no idea of faction or abilities associated with Sub-mariner.

So I don't know whether to be glad or upset about the late movement that sank the swimmer.

[MrBug708]

Have to admit, didn't expect the hour earlier deadline, but I also didnt bother to check either.

[Darth Vilus]

Yo Chubby! Clarification please!

[mckerney]

Ow.

[Darth Vilus]

Does anyone know a good exorcism? My mother and sister are watching Jersey Shore!

[Autumn]

Sorry I wasn't around folks, I didn't really expect to be out half the day, but that's how it happened.

Sucks that our first lynch is such a wishy-washy character. based on my comic reading, I would paint him as a Hero. He sometimes plays the antagonist, but I don't think I'd lump him with super villains.

Not much else to say, I had to read through fast, I saw a lot of votes on Mckerney at the end, but maybe just typical "we don't want ties" stuff? Hopefully someone kept a vote history.

[Darth Vilus]

4am deadline, ugh

[Narcizo]

4am deadline. Yay!

[Narcizo]

I was pretty much expecting no-role reveal. Makes voting even more of a crap-shoot.

[Narcizo]

A team reveal certainly is not going to be something we can accept at face value, but it will at least give us a new layer of information to work with, and allow us to start focusing on determining what is true and what is not, the basis of all WW games. Plus, it allows us to work together as teams and see what comes of that as well.

I've got to think that there is some sort of mechanic in the game to make team reveals unproductive. If there isn't and we all just reveal now then whoever's side mckerney was on is going to lose, because we'll all just vote for one person on the other team.

[Narcizo]

I'd like Monday - but if it's got to be over the weekend then I'll take Sunday, please.

[MrBug708]

Monday

[Narcizo]

For what it's worth I normally think of Submariner as being a good guy because he was a member of the Avengers at some stage. Just a good guy with own issues that can blur the line.

Wonder if we're all tweeners to make it hard to get a read on which side everyone is. My character has been on both sides of the fence at some stage, although they are probably associated most with one side (well, by me with my un-up-to-date knowledge, anyway). I'd imagine there are easily way more than 16 biggish characters in Marvel who could be characterised as tweeners at one stage or other.

[Narcizo]

Oh I'm lacking the impetous to do a vote tally thingy at the moment. Doesn't really seem worthwhile in this ruleset.

[Chubby]

Yo Chubby! Clarification please!

on what?

4am deadline was due to my work schedule. It was either that or do the same deadline for day/night like Thor game (which I liked) but ultimately I chose to give the players some time to adjust based on lynch.

[Chubby]

As the world wakes, there does not appear to be any news of any sudden and mysterious deaths.

Day 2 begins. Deadline is Friday 9pm EST. PMs have been sent.

[Chubby]

A bright light flashes again and blinds you. When your vision returns you feel slightly different as if something has changed. Has someone used the cube yet again? If so, who and for what ends? Will you ever receive anymore information or are you forever banished to the land of ignorance? Does everyone need to get sunglasses? These flashes seem to be getting brighter and more frequent...

[Narcizo]

Thank goodness for that. Means I can get my vote in now as I don't know if I'm going to be around for the rest of today. We're travelling to Linköping today and then being at a friends house so it's not fantastically likely that I'll be around much.

Vote Bhlloy

I've a feeling that he doesn't seem to be on the right side. Got precious little else to go with so I'll just have to follow that feeling.

[jeheinz72]

WTF is going on.

[jeheinz72]

From that writeup (and I know nil about comics) he seems like a good guy. Not that I know what this means or how it changes anything.

My best guess is the factions are still being formed (the flashes) and people are getting their powers (though I'm still powerless).

I have the sinking feeling that Day 2 is going to be one of THOSE days. One of the "hey remember when PLayerX went all Y on things and basically won that one game?"

[hoopsguy]

I don't think I'm going to be "PLayerX" today - I'm still as in the dark now as I was at this time yesterday.

Maybe someone has information that will clue the rest of us in - I'm all for having something to help guide actions at this point.

[jeheinz72]

Oh, also, I vote Sunday

[Autumn]

My best guess is the factions are still being formed (the flashes) and people are getting their powers (though I'm still powerless).

What do you mean factions are being formed? Are you not on the side of good or evil at the moment?

[Autumn]

The only thing I see to work on is that a lot of people jumped from Jackal at the end and onto Mckerney, who I believe was a Hero. So the simplest thing to do:

<b>vote the jackal</b>

[jeheinz72]

What do you mean factions are being formed? Are you not on the side of good or evil at the moment?

I'm on one of those two, but can't PM anyone. I assume those Chubby flashes are connections being made between 2+ like-sided folks

[Telle]

The only thing I see to work on is that a lot of people jumped from Jackal at the end and onto Mckerney, who I believe was a Hero. So the simplest thing to do:

<b>vote the jackal</b>

Actually, I'm the only one that jumped from The Jackal to mckerney. And that was to prevent a tie, at eight minutes to deadline. At essentially the same time Danny also moved to mckerney to also prevent a tie.. but he was on me before then.

[Danny]

I still think assuming Mckerney is a hero is a mistake. We really don't know, he may have been, but I think it's just as likely he was not.

[Danny]

One of the reasons I am not as sold on Sub Mariner is while he may have often been good, I believe most of his uses of the cube was for evil purposes.

[Danny]

Well found this relating to him "The Sub-Mariner recovered the Cube only to lose it to the ocean after an attempted revenge against the Avengers" Seems to be the only mention of him regarding the cube.

[The Jackal]

I was tending to think I'd vote for someone who stayed on me after I said I wasn't a villain yesterday, mainly hoops, heinz, or DV.

So, with plenty of room for movement if we get any sort of useful info..

VOTE DV

[Telle]

I was tending to think I'd vote for someone who stayed on me after I said I wasn't a villain yesterday ...

What post number was that? And why would you expect anyone to believe you when you claim to not be a villain?

[hoopsguy]

Therein lies the challenge - I was in and out after putting the vote down, but I'm honestly not sure what kind of reveal I would have believed yesterday (or today) to keep me from going ahead with a lynching.

Without any idea of what roles are in the game, what roles are on my side, what roles are on enemy side, or how people are communicating with each other I'm feeling pretty adrift right now. Voting might as well be throwing darts at the moment. Hopefully something emerges to provide some clarity.

[The Jackal]

What post number was that? And why would you expect anyone to believe you when you claim to not be a villain?

Post 52


I'm not a villain.

Hopefully there's a soothsayer. :D

I had said it before realizing that we're equally divided. When I said it I thought there were a small number of villains, like a usual group of wolves, but since we're supposedly split equally, there's not much reason for me to lie. And I would expect mainly villains to end up on me after I revealed my allegiance.

[SnDvls]

I agree it's really still a crapshoot and I still stand by the thoughts of Submariner/mckerney was good just by the wiki entry from post #1.

Someone on that list of voters for him would have know too I'm guessing

[The Jackal]

Of course the argument could be made that since I didn't know about the rules, I would have said I was a hero even if I was a villain. But there's no reason for me to lie about it now. I wouldn't want fellow villains voting for me if I was one!

[Chief Rum]

Of course the argument could be made that since I didn't know about the rules, I would have said I was a hero even if I was a villain. But there's no reason for me to lie about it now. I wouldn't want fellow villains voting for me if I was one!

Let me clarify, jehainz. What rules did you not know about?

[The Jackal]

Let me clarify, jehainz. What rules did you not know about?

I didn't realize we were equally split, that's all. I thought the major group was heroes and villains were a minority.

[Chief Rum]

I didn't realize we were equally split, that's all. I thought the major group was heroes and villains were a minority.

FWIW, that's right there in the rules post. Did you just scan over that?

[jeheinz72]

Let me clarify, jehainz. What rules did you not know about?

Wha?

[The Jackal]

FWIW, that's right there in the rules post. Did you just scan over that?

Sure did. I got back at 230 am Thursday morning and spent all day yesterday cleaning. I didn't read very closely and that's my fault.

[SnDvls]

vote Narcizo

didn't like that he didn't take his vote off yesterday after misinterperting the rules.

that's really all I got or going back to my day 1 vote.

[ntndeacon]

vote Sunday

[Zinto]

I am not going to be around again today and I don't blame anyone for voting me because of that so I am going to place a quick vote.

Vote Mr.Bug

[Chief Rum]

Wha?

Sorry, got my "J's" confused. ;)

[Telle]

Votes as of post #195:

1 - bhlloy - Narcizo (169)
1 - The Jackal - Autumn (175)
1 - Darth Vilus - The Jackal (181)
1 - Narcizo - SnDvls (192)
1 - MrBug - Zinto (194)

[Chief Rum]

I think we need information. So I am spilling the beans.

Yesterday, when the second flash of light happened, the Cube magically appeared in front of me, and I was in control of it. I was given little indication of what all powers it has, but that they were significant and many, kinda like a do all WW tool, I think.

I was told I could not use it until the night phase.

I attempted to contact everyone on my team vuia a PM, but it appears this did not work, maybe was beyond what the Cube could do. This morning, with the sim and my attempted use of the Cube, it up and disappeared again, no doubt to another player in the game.

So it looks like these flashes of light represents the Cube transporting itself to another player, probably after being used.

[The Jackal]

That makes sense. So powers will likely rotate from person to person, maybe some will stick and others will be one off?

[Telle]

Interesting Chief. So am I correct in my understanding that your use of the cube was more or less "wasted", since you tried something that didn't work?

[bhlloy]

Chief - was that the flash of light from 2:18am this morning (post #167) or the one during the day? Because if so that puts a pretty big fork in a theory I'm working on.

[Chief Rum]

That makes sense. So powers will likely rotate from person to person, maybe some will stick and others will be one off?

I could see that. I do still have a vestige of an ability from the Cube (whereas before I had none), but I am still trying to decide if it has much value. It doesn't seem to have any relation to what I tried to do with the Cube.

[Chief Rum]

Interesting Chief. So am I correct in my understanding that your use of the cube was more or less "wasted", since you tried something that didn't work?

Yup, that's exactly it, unfortunately. I might have had better luck if I had stuck with something very WW basic, like "BG me" or "Night kill Player X".

The Cube description led me to believe, though, that it is capable of much more.

[Chief Rum]

Chief - was that the flash of light from 2:18am this morning (post #167) or the one during the day? Because if so that puts a pretty big fork in a theory I'm working on.

I lost the Cube with the flash of light at 2:18 a.m., which seems to be when Chubby processed the Night One actions. I received it with the flash of light at 3:54 p.m. yesterday.

All times PDT.

[MrBug708]

I think we need information. So I am spilling the beans.

Yesterday, when the second flash of light happened, the Cube magically appeared in front of me, and I was in control of it. I was given little indication of what all powers it has, but that they were significant and many, kinda like a do all WW tool, I think.

I was told I could not use it until the night phase.

I attempted to contact everyone on my team vuia a PM, but it appears this did not work, maybe was beyond what the Cube could do. This morning, with the sim and my attempted use of the Cube, it up and disappeared again, no doubt to another player in the game.

So it looks like these flashes of light represents the Cube transporting itself to another player, probably after being used.

Are you saying you dont know anyone on your team? Or you do, but after you activated the Cube, you lost contact?

[Chief Rum]

Are you saying you dont know anyone on your team? Or you do, but after you activated the Cube, you lost contact?

I came into the game not knowing anyone on my team. I still don't.

[bhlloy]

I lost the Cube with the flash of light at 2:18 a.m., which seems to be when Chubby processed the Night One actions. I received it with the flash of light at 3:54 p.m. yesterday.

All times PDT.

Shame, I thought I had a really nice read on who used the cube at that time and what they used it for. Shows what I know.

[Chief Rum]

Shame, I thought I had a really nice read on who used the cube at that time and what they used it for. Shows what I know.

Well, keep in mind that I lost the Cube when I used it. So wehn I received it, it's conceivable whoever had it before had just used it (and then lost it, just like I did).

[The Jackal]

Stupid graduate certificate program not wanting me.

I DONT WANT YOU EITHER, JERKS

sigh

[The Jackal]

I really don't know what I can add to the game at this point. I feel like vote history is going to be very important in endgame when there are only a few people left on each side and they may not be able to communicate with each other.

However it seems like at some point everyone's allegiance is going to be known, and then it might not matter so much what happens in terms of vote history, moreso how the cube has been used over the course of the game to benefit one team over the other.

[The Jackal]

So I guess these first couple days when most of us (presumably) don't have powers are just about trimming numbers down, and as the game progresses and more actions are able to be taken, that's when things get interesting.

[Telle]

Well I'm taking off in about ten minutes, and I'm not sure I'll have a chance to get back on before deadline this evening. So, I'm going to take the plunge and be the first to second-vote someone.

vote Darth Vilus

[The Jackal]

I imagine people aren't going to encourage a mass reveal early just out of respect to the idea of the game, and it would make voting a pretty silly venture.

On the flip side, if everyone knows who isn't on their side it makes deciding who to use a kill ability on much easier, so there's that reason against revealing I suppose.

[Narcizo]

vote Narcizo

didn't like that he didn't take his vote off yesterday after misinterperting the rules.

that's really all I got or going back to my day 1 vote.

I didn't misinterpret the rules. You misinterpreted my comment. :) With an even split there's a greater than 50:50 chance that anyone I voted would be an enemy. I only mentioned the neutral bit because if there were 15 players then there's a chance that there might be a 50:50 chance of hitting an enemy, if the opposing side had one more player than my side. I picked mckerney because he seemed keen for everyone to be his friend. And, because it is a crap shoot.

Say I did somehow know that mckerney was on the opposite side to me. (I didn't) Why would it upset you that I put a vote on someone when a) you don't know his allegiance and b) you don't know my allegiance. Or do you?

Then again your reasoning for voting me is as good as any we're likely to see (be given, at least) today. So fair enough.

[Chubby]

running errands right now, will be home around 6ish est and should be around thru deadline.

[Autumn]

Thanks, Chief, for explaining about the Cube. That was my best guess what was happening, it moving around, but it's good to have a sense what it can or can't do. I wonder if that's the only way any of us develop powers or if there are other means.

I don't have any reason to vote anywhere at the moment so I"ll stay put. I should be around at deadline this time though.

[MrBug708]

Vote - DV

[Darth Vilus]

on what?

4am deadline was due to my work schedule. It was either that or do the same deadline for day/night like Thor game (which I liked) but ultimately I chose to give the players some time to adjust based on lynch.

no no sorry, I meant on whether the Sub-mariner was a hero or villain. my bad, I shoulda been more clear on my request

[Darth Vilus]

I was tending to think I'd vote for someone who stayed on me after I said I wasn't a villain yesterday, mainly hoops, heinz, or DV.

So, with plenty of room for movement if we get any sort of useful info..

VOTE DV

This is complete BS, pardon my French, I said that I wasn't a villain either ysterday so i don't get your point. Anyone can just say that, doesnt matter.

[Darth Vilus]

Vote the Jackal

[MrBug708]

I would imagine that being a villan and coming out isn't the worst thing in the world. Dangerous of course, but the villain side would be less likely to vote for you

[Darth Vilus]

i'm just saying i dont see the logic in his argument is all. i mean even if you're a villain isnt it a natural reaction not to reveal you're bad?

[The Jackal]

Perhaps good/bad isn't the right way to look at it. I just think it's more than likely the people on me at the end of the day aren't on my team. That's the best thing I have to go off right now.

[The Jackal]

Chubby.. even though a sunday deadline might work better for a lot of people, if we have any other east coasters there's a possibility there won't be any internet access on Sunday because of the hurricane. Just a heads up.

[ntndeacon]

Perhaps good/bad isn't the right way to look at it. I just think it's more than likely the people on me at the end of the day aren't on my team. That's the best thing I have to go off right now.

or if they are on your team they dont know it.

[The Jackal]

or if they are on your team they dont know it.

Well like I said, there's really no reason for me to lie about my allegiance.

[ntndeacon]

Vote Narcizo

[ntndeacon]

Well like I said, there's really no reason for me to lie about my allegiance.

granted, but there seemed to be confusion with folks on numbers per team, which is why I mentioned that possiblity.

[ntndeacon]

my choice on Narcizo, is basically as hoops said a dart toss. I like others have said have no knowlegde of who could be on my team or on the opposing team through my intro.

[SnDvls]

Hey Chief question re: the Cube if you can share.

When you got it were you given any advice/instructions on it?
What made you decide to use it?
When it left you were you given any instructions? i.e. whom it went to or that you could pass it?

just thinking out loud here trying to get a grip on the cube and what part it plays in this game.

[jeheinz72]

Vote DV

[Chubby]

no no sorry, I meant on whether the Sub-mariner was a hero or villain. my bad, I shoulda been more clear on my request

Oh, I see. :popcorn:

[Chubby]

Chubby.. even though a sunday deadline might work better for a lot of people, if we have any other east coasters there's a possibility there won't be any internet access on Sunday because of the hurricane. Just a heads up.

No problem. I'm on east coast too, if the storm becomes an issue i'll delay it til monday night. Since the storm could always change course, still plan on a sunday night deadline. I will try to post the delay if it appears certain it's going to cause disruptions

[Chubby]

***NEWS ALERT***

Breaking news out of New York City. There appears to be a major battle occuring at Stark Tower as we speak. Eye witnesses have reported that the Red Skull was seen attacking Stark Tower with his Consortium of Evil with what purpose still unknown. Captain America was reportedly seen battling the Red Skull in hand to hand combat as the rest of the Avengers tried to secure the tower.

As more details are learned, we will bring them to you.

-Channel 5's Chet Youbetcha

[Chief Rum]

Hmm, I wonder if that's just flavor, or if we really have the Red Skull and Captain America in this game, and two of us are fighting.

[MrBug708]

I dont think it's much of a stretch to assume that Captain America is, in fact, in the Marvel WW game

[Chief Rum]

Hey Chief question re: the Cube if you can share.

When you got it were you given any advice/instructions on it?
What made you decide to use it?
When it left you were you given any instructions? i.e. whom it went to or that you could pass it?

just thinking out loud here trying to get a grip on the cube and what part it plays in this game.

Sure, no problem.

The instructions were more or less vague instructions on how it could do most anything within reason for a WW game. When I asked a bunch of questions about it, the response was more or less "you don't know".

I don't think there was ever a moment where I considered not using it. I mean, it's the Cube, and it was giving me carte blanche WW powers.

I was not given any instructions or too many details, other than it completely disappeared. And then I was told about the power I had received (which of course I won't discuss). No idea where it went, except that I don't have it anymore.

I am hoping that's not pushing the boundaries of repeating a PM (sorry, Chubby if it is, I'm just relaying information).

[Chief Rum]

I dont think it's much of a stretch to assume that Captain America is, in fact, in the Marvel WW game

Yeah, I wasn't really saying he wouldn't be. I was less concerned with identifying his or the Red Skull's presence in the game than I was that they had found a way to engage each other and fight.

It makes me wonder if one of them currently has the Cube, or perhaps once had the Cube, and received some power from it.

[Darth Vilus]

If you're on the hero side then don't vote for me.

If you're a villain then bring it on!!!

[Chief Rum]

VOTE THE JACKAL

I don't have much to go on, so it's not like I really feel The Jackal is a baddie here. But he misread the rules, and it's still kinda like a Day One, where we have only so little we can go on at this point.

Plus, DV has three votes, and I don't want to see a runaway.

[mauchow]

I had a busy day and now I'm at my brothers rehearsal.

vote dv

I will try checking in before deadline.

[hoopsguy]

Anyone have a vote count?

Not that I think I'll have any reason for one versus another, but I would prefer to vote for one of the leaders on the chance that voting histories might matter later in the game in some way I have yet to discern.

[bhlloy]

I'm going to go with my gut feeling from earlier in the day on this one, even though CR's info about cube makes it unlikely. I don't have any great feeling about either of the other candidates and I think this makes it closer to a 3 horse race in the absence of a vote count telling me otherwise

vote Narcizo

[Chubby]

I believe DV is in the lead

[Darth Vilus]

Thanks for that Chubby

[hoopsguy]

I don't think that I'll be back, but Darth is as good as anyone I suppose.

VOTE DARTH VILUS

[Chubby]

DV - 7
Narcizo - 3
Jackal - 2
Mr Bug - 1
bhlloy - 1

[Danny]

It's probably safe to say DV isn't the member of a larger team as everyone seems to be throwing him under the bus.

I'll at least try and make it a race

Vote Narcizo

[Chubby]

sorry I haven't been able to post more updated vote totals, terrible two issues tonight. This is from my phone. I should be able to hop on the computer at 9 tho

[Autumn]

WEll, no reason not to make it interesting, though I'm not sure how interesting it gets if no one knows who's on their team.

<b>unvote the jackal
vote narcizo</b>

[Danny]

I agree with Hoops' earlier post though, I feel like we're just taking a crap shoot. Previous voting records tell us nothing and we have no information