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CrimsonFox

09-14-2011, 02:10 AM

You are in the little side room off the main cabin room called the STUDY. A desk with many books and papers is there as well as a reel-to-reel tape recorder. A desk lamp hangs over. Nearby is a doorway to the kitchen. In it you can see a simple stove and refrigerator and plenty of cabinets.

You can INVESTIGATE the STUDY (and adjoining kitchen) or go through a closed door to the main CABIN front room.

Around you you see echoes of the past, like movies playing out around you of others. It is eerie and they open in pockets in various places. You can hear their conversations, but the sound is very distorted. Are these ghosts? Or just images of the past.

CrimsonFox

09-14-2011, 02:56 AM

IMPORTANT! If my PM box gets clogged, email me at [email protected]. I will be monitoring that too.

Good:Most characters are good. You have traveled to a remote cabin in some dark woods for your own reasons, some are with friends, some are alone. All are unsuspecting.

Evil:Evil wins when they achieve a 1:1 ratio of good-evil.

Win Conditions:
Good wins when they eliminate all evil characters in the game.

Voting:Each day you will vote for a player. The format should be as normal: vote crimson Fox
To unvote a player and vote someone else:
unvote crimson fox
vote someoneelse

Deadline:
Day Action Deadline is 9 PM EST/6 PM PST
Night Deadline is 10 PM EST/7 PM PST
Lynch (End of Day Cycle):Ties equal no lynch. Nolynch is also a voting option.

Basic Game Rules:
1. No editing posts.
2. No discussing game with outside people. Check with me if you are confused about being out of the game before posting in other outside threads.
3. The deadites will eat you. Every bit of you, except maybe your blood. They like exploding that all over the walls.
4. Don't die.
5. Protect your blood. Make sure it stays inside you.
6. Conditional orders are allowed to make sure you don't perform an action on someone who has died so give multiple names just in case.
7. Do not direct quote anyone from PM or another thread. You may say things from the other thread but the source must be gone. NEVER direct quote a PM.

Unique things to this game:
Rooms:
There are a number of locations in this game. Each represented by a thread. You may only read a room/thread that you are in. You may not read a different thread unless you are told to. This thread is considered the STUDY (and kitchen) of the cabin.

Descriptions:
Pay attention to room descriptions. They tell you where you can go and look.

Investigation:
Investigation acts like both moving and searching. It works like voting. You will be given options as to where you can investigate.
Format:
INVESTIGATE CLOSET
This will take you into the "closet" thread. You will also be told privately whether you find anything in the closet. Only one person will get the object if multiple people look there.
You may choose to INVESTIGATE a room you are already in and thus not move to another room but search for things.
INVESTIGATIONS are due by Lynch time.

Items:
There are objects in this game. You may find them by investigating an area. Once you have them, you may pass them or hold onto them. Other things may happen. To pass them, you PM me as a night action. Items may end up back in a room.

Items and Ability:You might not be able to use an item you find. There are two main types: weapons and spells. You will be told at the game's beginning which type you can use. (One or the other).

Results:
You will only know certain results when you see them, meaning are in the same room to see them. If someone dies and they aren't with you, you won't know what they are until you go to their location (but it will be obvious). If you find a dead someone in a room through investigation and they have an object, you can get their object.

Time:
Although we are still using day/night cycle, this all takes place in one night.

CrimsonFox

09-14-2011, 02:57 AM

Victims
Victim #1: Darth Vilus
Victim #2: Autumn
Victim #3: Chief Rum
Victim #4: Danny
Victim #5: Zinto
Victim #6: J23
Victim #7: Narcizo
Victim #8: bhlloy
Victim #9: MrBug - Dead. Human
Victim #10: ntndeacon
Victim #11: dzilla77
Victim #12: mckerney
Victim #13: dubb
Victim #14: The Jackal
Victim #15: mauboy
Victim #16: Commo_Soldier - Dead. Human, Annie: The Professor's daughter
Victim #17: tyketime

This list may be updated during the game, but not necessarily with deaths from every thread. You are free to make your own assumptions and discoveries and post your own lists as you wish.

Narcizo

09-14-2011, 05:09 AM

Wayhey! A deserted cabin out in a spooky looking woods. My idea of partytime. Where's the beer?

Investigate the Study Well, mainly the kitchen. For beer.

Narcizo

09-14-2011, 05:14 AM

With us all split into 4 I think that after the obligatory day one area investigation we should try to get everyone assembled in the main cabin. For why? Because we're sitting ducks for any hypothetical anythings that might want to kill us if we're split up. As we can assume they can co-ordinate their efforts better than us who will be running around like headless chickens.

If that assumption is right then I think there might only be 3 potential naughty beings who might want to harm us as co-ordination gives them a huge advantage. But four looks like it might be on the cards with 4 different areas.

Narcizo

09-14-2011, 05:14 AM

But, yeah! Beer.

Danny

09-14-2011, 05:21 AM

Investigate study

Narcizo

09-14-2011, 06:02 AM

Hooray! Danny's here. All is saved. Unless he's a baddy. In which case we're doomed.

CrimsonFox

09-14-2011, 06:20 AM

http://eatwellwithjanelblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/DSC_0311.jpg

the study looks less nice than this. No fireplace in here but in the other room. The chairs are simple chairs but there sure are a lot of books.

CrimsonFox

09-14-2011, 06:24 AM

tyketime

09-14-2011, 06:26 AM

Narcizo - I would tend to agree we will have more safety with numbers. The unknown at this point will be the objects we may find, and how they will be utilized. I actually came into the study to look for a book...

Investigate Study

CrimsonFox

09-14-2011, 06:34 AM

*Post your VOTE and INVESTIGATE in this thread only*

Narcizo

09-14-2011, 08:15 AM

tyketime

09-14-2011, 08:26 AM

Well this will certainly be interesting. Since we are only allowed to view the thread we are in, presumably we don't know how the votes are going overall. Which gives Team Evil even more of an advantage. Perhaps another reason for us to congregate together.

And unless the person we are voting is in the same room, we won't get as much info as we normally would with rebuttals, counter-arguments, etc.

Hmmm...

tyketime

09-14-2011, 08:30 AM

Not going to be around much/at all today - boss is leaving so alcohol is going to be consumed in moderate amounts (this being Sweden). So I'll have to throw a vote out there.

Vote ntndeacon

No reason at all. Apart from the usual of culling the UTR guys early.

So before the alcohol flows too freely, I see your reason for voting ntndeacon. But unless he is in the Study with us, and based on my observation above, do you consider your day one vote to be almost throwaway?

Narcizo

09-14-2011, 08:38 AM

I actually came into the study to look for a book...

Interesting. If a bit likely to get you killed by any hypothetical bad guys out there.

Narcizo

09-14-2011, 08:40 AM

So before the alcohol flows too freely, I see your reason for voting ntndeacon. But unless he is in the Study with us, and based on my observation above, do you consider your day one vote to be almost throwaway?

Not really. Who am I going to vote for in this thread - Danny or you? I'm not going to vote Danny day one and you've posted more than ntn is likely to all game after day one.

tyketime

09-14-2011, 08:47 AM

Not really. Who am I going to vote for in this thread - Danny or you? I'm not going to vote Danny day one and you've posted more than ntn is likely to all game after day one.
I guess I'm just trying to wrap my head around this mechanic. It's a new one for me. My limited experience for Day One votes are usually to throw something out there and see if it sticks or not. Since we are in different rooms, we may not even have that going for us. I don't suggest we only vote for who is in the room with us. But since you threw a vote out there, I thought I would ask...

tyketime

09-14-2011, 08:58 AM

Interesting. If a bit likely to get you killed by any hypothetical bad guys out there.
Well shame on me. I thought I would be cute and add some flavor to the text, but I can see this as easily misconstrued...

Narcizo

09-14-2011, 09:01 AM

Narcizo

09-14-2011, 09:02 AM

Anyway, can you hear that? There ... in the distance?

Tequila! Tequila!

Time to go. See "everyone" tomorrow.

tyketime

09-14-2011, 09:06 AM

Anyway, can you hear that? There ... in the distance?

Tequila! Tequila!

Time to go. See "everyone" tomorrow.
:lol: Enjoy! I am certainly jealous...

tyketime

09-14-2011, 09:11 AM

Fair enough. Definitely think/agree that it's a mechanic that favours the bad guys if they can organise the votes. The only similar thing I've seen is on day two of the Cube game - but at least that was only two threads. I'm tempted to go straight for the main cabin because I think that that's the strongest villager play but I figure everyone else is going to search on day one so I might as well do the same thing.
In reading over the rules again, it states that only one person in a room will get the object. CF didn't specifically mention if it was the first one or not. So I'm not opposed to playing out our Day One scenario in the Study to learn about the Investigate mechanic. But then I'm more than likely headed to the Main room so we can have a chance to get our bearings and organize our fight against the evil ones.

Chief Rum

09-14-2011, 11:25 AM

Hey folks! I see I missed Narc's party. Oh well...

tyketime

09-14-2011, 12:20 PM

Chief! I thought that was you over by the Tape Recorder. What are you doing here at the cabin?

CrimsonFox

09-14-2011, 12:24 PM

Chief Rum

09-14-2011, 12:32 PM

Chief! I thought that was you over by the Tape Recorder. What are you doing here at the cabin?

I am here to meet up with the Professor who owns this cabin. But I haven't found him yet, and no one has heard from him for a while.

CrimsonFox

09-14-2011, 12:49 PM

Pardon....three partiers and BOOK-reader tyketime.

tyketime

09-14-2011, 12:55 PM

Pardon....three partiers and BOOK-reader tyketime.

:D

CrimsonFox

09-14-2011, 12:58 PM

Rereading the rules is a good idea. I have made a couple minor alterations so just make yourself clear on things.

tyketime

09-14-2011, 12:58 PM

You look around at the other partying people in the *ahem* party study. Hopefully the owners of the cabin won't walk in on you when you get too hammered and clothes start flying. You don't know each other's names so you call yourselves

Chief Rum, tyketime, Danny, and Narcizo

Something doesn't feel right thought. So you must vote for one of them

Oh boy... this was a question I had, and now I fear the answer. If the spirits can hear, make the lights blink once for yes, and twice for no. Are you saying we can only vote for people in the room with us?

CrimsonFox

09-14-2011, 01:06 PM

You have come to this cabin for your own reasons. It is a nice midday afternoon. There are other people here with you. You didn't expect that. WHo are they? You get an odd feeling. And you feel as if you should vote for someone in this room today.

You look around at the other partying people in the *ahem* party study. Hopefully the owners of the cabin won't walk in on you when you get too hammered and clothes start flying. You don't know each other's names so you call yourselves

Chief Rum, tyketime, Danny, and Narcizo

Something doesn't feel right thought. So you must vote for one of them

The windows blow open from the wind, causing a light to blow over and flicker once and knock tyketime in the head, causing him to fall over a chair and hit his face on the ground. He gets a splinter in his eye.

tyketime

09-14-2011, 01:09 PM

You have come to this cabin for your own reasons. It is a nice midday afternoon. There are other people here with you. You didn't expect that. WHo are they? You get an odd feeling. And you feel as if you should vote for someone in this room today.
OK - rereading has given me this clue (sorry boss... I missed this little change). We need to vote for someone in this room.

tyketime

09-14-2011, 01:44 PM

Hmmm, ok. While this makes it a bit more interesting, I'm a little worried about the two empty tequila bottles next to Narcizo. With a clearer understanding of the directions, my thoughts are as follows:

1. Narcizo - Well, before you started drinking, we had a good exchange. I felt pretty good about it, until the clarification that we can only vote for players in our room. It got me thinking back to a couple comments you made:

As we can assume they can co-ordinate their efforts better than us who will be running around like headless chickens.

Definitely think/agree that it's a mechanic that favours the bad guys if they can organise the votes.

So maybe it's just semantics, but an oh so subtle change from the typical thought process that the bad guys can communicate and coordinate to "if they can organize". Perhaps it's nothing...

2. Danny did a quick hit and run. One post so far. Little to go on.

3. Chief Rum was the last to introduce himself, so again at this point very little to go on.

In other words, the usual Day One dilemma but with a much smaller group to pick from.

I'll go ahead and put a vote out there, purely based on current contribution level in the Study. It is certainly subject to change. Hopefully this will initiate some additional dialogue between the four of us.

VOTE Danny

tyketime

09-14-2011, 01:57 PM

CrimsonFox

09-14-2011, 04:11 PM

Study: Danny, Narcizo, tyketime

Vote:
Danny (1) - tyketime (34)
Yet to vote: Chief Rum, Narcizo, Danny

CrimsonFox

09-14-2011, 05:50 PM

The light in the room suddenly dims. You look outside and the sunshine that was there is no more. Thick dark clouds are overhead have doused out the sun. Luckily the electricity works, the bulbs casting shadows on the wall and on the books.

Chief Rum

09-14-2011, 05:57 PM

Just one more thought for now, and then I will wait for others to chime in. Now that I think about the voting restriction a little further, it may not be in our best interest to all move into the same room together. Assuming Narcizo is correct, and there are 3-4 Evil Ones, and further assuming they are spread out across the various rooms, there is less of a chance for them to coordinate a specific vote.

If we all agree to move into the Main room of the cabin, then while our numbers overall are higher, it also gives them a better chance to influence the outcome.

What do you think?

Hmm, yes and no. If we group them together in one room, yes, they would have a better chance to influence things. But it's as likely if not more likely to give us more good guys in one area, too. I view it as a wash, especially if the bad guys are already in communication with one another.

My concern is more with the possibility that they are not able to communicate right now and us all moving to one room will make it so they can.

Incidentally, if we presume that every group is having a similar Day One voting situation, I find it unlikely that all Day One final lynches in the four areas will be killed today. I would guess those four will be the field from which the actual lynchee is selected.

So even if we vote someone here, it seems unlikely they'll be the one to be lynched.

Danny

09-14-2011, 06:01 PM

Hmmm, ok. While this makes it a bit more interesting, I'm a little worried about the two empty tequila bottles next to Narcizo. With a clearer understanding of the directions, my thoughts are as follows:

1. Narcizo - Well, before you started drinking, we had a good exchange. I felt pretty good about it, until the clarification that we can only vote for players in our room. It got me thinking back to a couple comments you made:

So maybe it's just semantics, but an oh so subtle change from the typical thought process that the bad guys can communicate and coordinate to "if they can organize". Perhaps it's nothing...

2. Danny did a quick hit and run. One post so far. Little to go on.

3. Chief Rum was the last to introduce himself, so again at this point very little to go on.

In other words, the usual Day One dilemma but with a much smaller group to pick from.

I'll go ahead and put a vote out there, purely based on current contribution level in the Study. It is certainly subject to change. Hopefully this will initiate some additional dialogue between the four of us.

VOTE Danny

My "hit and run" was just checking in briefly before I went to sleep.

Chief Rum

09-14-2011, 06:09 PM

My "hit and run" was just checking in briefly before I went to sleep.

EVIL!!!

Chief Rum

09-14-2011, 06:41 PM

Okay, I have to head over to my second job. I still don't think the lynchee will be our guy here, or it's certainly unlikely.

Danny's as good as the rest, at this point.

VOTE DANNY

tyketime

09-14-2011, 06:44 PM

EVIL!!!

Are you suggesting that sleeping during the day & waking at night is characteristic of Evil? It does sound familiar...

CrimsonFox

09-14-2011, 06:48 PM

INVESTIGATIONS:
Study: Danny, Narcizo, tyketime

Vote:
Danny (2) - tyketime (34), Chief Rum (41)
Yet to vote: Narcizo, Danny

Danny

09-14-2011, 07:20 PM

Sure, doesn't hurt that much as I am vanilla.

Vote Danny

Danny

09-14-2011, 07:22 PM

And since tyketime probably doesn't know, Narc's play schedule is such where he will not be back before deadline, so there's little point in trying to fight the lynch.

CrimsonFox

09-14-2011, 08:01 PM

deadline

CrimsonFox

09-14-2011, 08:03 PM

INVESTIGATIONS:
Study: Danny, Narcizo, tyketime

Vote:
Danny (3) - tyketime (34), Chief Rum (41) Danny (44)
Yet to vote: Narcizo

CrimsonFox

09-14-2011, 08:26 PM

You are liking the party and reading but decide that Danny is a killjoy and you don't want him here. Danny cries and begs cause it's his party and he'll cry if he want to but the others won't have it. They send him off. He starts to leave, then sees the tape recorder. Hoping there is some funky music on it to make the others dig his hipness he turns it on. The others point out and Danny is sent away dejected.

The Tape recorder plays. It squeaks for a moment, then the voice of an older scholarly gentleman speaks....

CrimsonFox

09-14-2011, 08:26 PM

This is Professor Raymond Knowby dept of Ancient History, log entry number 2. I believe I have made a significant find at Castle Kantok, having journeyed there with my wife Henrietta, my daughter Annie and Associate Professor Ed Getz. Noturum Demonta, The Book of the Dead. My wife and I brought the book to this cabin where I could study it undisturbed. It was here that I began the translation. The book speaks of spiritual prescence, a thing of evil that roams the forests in the dark bowers of man’s domain. It is through the recitation of these passages that this dark spirit is given license to possess the living. Included here are the phonetic pronunciations of those passages.

CrimsonFox

09-14-2011, 08:27 PM

Kanda...Es-trata...Ta-toon...Hazan

CrimsonFox

09-14-2011, 08:28 PM

[FONT=&quot][COLOR=DarkRed][B]A creaking is heard in the background, like that of a rocking chair.[/B][/COLOR]
[/FONT]

CrimsonFox

09-14-2011, 08:29 PM

sobar...Ear-Grets, Gat,

CrimsonFox

09-14-2011, 08:30 PM

[I][COLOR=DarkRed][B][FONT=&quot]...Nos-feratos...Amantos...Kanda![/FONT][/B][/COLOR]

CrimsonFox

09-14-2011, 08:34 PM

Narcizo and tyketime are pleased with their decision to shun Danny since the music stinks. It's oldguy rap. They start to loot the kitchen and study. They do find a picture of a woman as well as an older couple and a pair of glasses.

Chief Rum just stands there. Eventually he sits in a chair and stays there listening to the tape.

[You may continue to post in this thread except for Danny. Results of investigations coming later in PM. I have to run out and will finish up later tonight as well as Night Results. Send in night actions if you have them. Will do this around 10 PM PST. You may continue posting here, except for Danny.]

Narcizo

09-15-2011, 12:57 AM

Read the rules? Pah! Do we look like the sort of people who read rules?

Anyway - that sucked having Danny, Chief and tyke in the same thread and having to vote one of them. My 1337 powers of rule avoidance meant I didn't "have" to vote for one of them anyway.

Narcizo

09-15-2011, 01:28 AM

So old guy recites the passage and is possessed by evil spirit. Then Chief listens to tape. DUN-DUN-DURR!!!!!! Any in-game reason you're particularly interested in the tape Chief?

Wonder if there are actually no bad guys to start with or just one and bad guys make up their numbers with conversions.

CrimsonFox

09-15-2011, 01:52 AM

Narcizo, tyketime, and Chief Rum all continue to be the Study. You hear things outside the door in the Cabin Front Room. Voices and clattering.

Narcizo

09-15-2011, 01:59 AM

Go to Main Cabin

Narcizo

09-15-2011, 02:04 AM

Vote Chief

he was acting differently from the majority of people in the study. He must be a baddy. :)

Narcizo

09-15-2011, 02:10 AM

In fact Chief, why would you choose not to investigate the study? I don't see the point of hanging around here if you're not actually going to do anything.

CrimsonFox

09-15-2011, 02:27 AM

You are overwhelmed and bowled over by an incredible force which breaks through the air overhead and zooms off. Across from you, you see faces appear. Some you have seen before. They are in locations around here. You dislike this. You want to vote one of them out. You think there is something bad going on. Very very bad. The darkness increases.

Vote for anyone in the game. You may still investigate.

Narcizo

09-15-2011, 06:10 AM

Okay given that I guess we should decide how to vote. Should we bloc-vote someone or what? As much as I think Chief is as good a vote as anyone at this stage I doubt he'll get any votes from anywhere else so it's probably a wasted vote if I leave it on him.

tyketime

09-15-2011, 07:09 AM

tyketime

09-15-2011, 07:13 AM

I do want to briefly talk about Danny for a minute. According to the description, Danny is only "sent away". Not killed, but obviously not in this room anymore either. So any suggestions on what happened to him? I think the rules stated it would be obvious if we were in a room with a victim, so all signs point to him still being alive. As to whether he's been turned to Evil, or already was bad, we don't know at this point.

tyketime

09-15-2011, 07:20 AM

I am here to meet up with the Professor who owns this cabin. But I haven't found him yet, and no one has heard from him for a while.
Before we leave the Study, I do have a question for you, Chief. Why were you here to meet up with the Professor? In fact, how do you know the Professor?

Narcizo

09-15-2011, 09:08 AM

I can't imagine what happened to the people voted. I presume there was one from each thread. Maybe they have been moved to their own little thread or something.

Narcizo

09-15-2011, 09:09 AM

We're really not going to get a lot achieved here, just three of us. It's like an end game without anything to go on. We've got no information to work with.

tyketime

09-15-2011, 10:13 AM

Seems like you are right Narcizo. So before we head out to the Main room, do you have any feeling/reservation based on Chief's point that moving into the same room may enhance/improve Evil's ability to communicate with each other?

Hmm, yes and no. If we group them together in one room, yes, they would have a better chance to influence things. But it's as likely if not more likely to give us more good guys in one area, too. I view it as a wash, especially if the bad guys are already in communication with one another.

My concern is more with the possibility that they are not able to communicate right now and us all moving to one room will make it so they can.

Incidentally, if we presume that every group is having a similar Day One voting situation, I find it unlikely that all Day One final lynches in the four areas will be killed today. I would guess those four will be the field from which the actual lynchee is selected.

So even if we vote someone here, it seems unlikely they'll be the one to be lynched.

At this point, I don't really see any alternative. I'm inclined to go ahead and move into the Main room. While we will have safety in numbers, it will also allow us to get more information so we can collectively begin rooting Evil out.

tyketime

09-15-2011, 10:14 AM

MOVE to MAIN ROOM

Narcizo

09-15-2011, 10:37 AM

Seems like you are right Narcizo. So before we head out to the Main room, do you have any feeling/reservation based on Chief's point that moving into the same room may enhance/improve Evil's ability to communicate with each other?

Nope.

I know I'm not going to help win the game sat here. The only way I can see it benefiting the bad guys is if they can't communicate and don't know who each other are. But then it would be totally random anyway. If the bad guy/s have any extra knowledge then staying here is depriving the village of any contribution we might be able to make - there'll be no decent voting records, basically nothing to go off of at all.

Narcizo

09-15-2011, 10:38 AM

So anything of interest you would like to share Mr Rum?

Chief Rum

09-15-2011, 10:42 AM

Hey folks, sorry was out all night after working the second job.

The reason you don't see me doing anything is because I forgot to submit a Study request (:forehead slap:). So, way to go, Chief!

As I surmised, Danny does not seem to be dead. If we assumed every team had to vote for someone in their group, that would have been four lynches. No way CF has a four lynch day in his game. Sorta metagamey, but not a surprise.

Given the action going on in the main room, I agree, we should head there.

MOVE TO MAIN ROOM

Chief Rum

09-15-2011, 10:44 AM

Before we leave the Study, I do have a question for you, Chief. Why were you here to meet up with the Professor? In fact, how do you know the Professor?

I am apparently an associate of the Professor's. I wasn't told why I am meeting him here, though. He owns this cabin.

I presume the Professor (not named to me) is the one and same Professor on the tape.

tyketime

09-15-2011, 10:46 AM

Hey! We've all posted in a 30-minute timeframe...

So, any ideas on who to vote for, or should we throw a name or two out there for our consideration?

Narcizo

09-15-2011, 10:47 AM

I don't think we necessarily know if Danny is dead or not. Or anyone else for that matter. But we'll see.

Anyway should we bloc-vote? I don't really have any candidates except the usual UTR players. Obviously.

Narcizo

09-15-2011, 10:49 AM

My candidates would be pretty much DV, ntn or Bug. DV won't post unless you put a rocket up his behind (which we can't do), ntn won't post anyway and Bug won't post until day four or so.

tyketime

09-15-2011, 10:50 AM

tyketime

09-15-2011, 10:51 AM

My candidates would be pretty much DV, ntn or Bug. DV won't post unless you put a rocket up his behind (which we can't do), ntn won't post anyway and Bug won't post until day four or so.
In the very few games I've played, Darth has always been a UTR player. I have less experience with the others.

Chief Rum

09-15-2011, 10:52 AM

I don't like the concept of voting blind. We don't know what these players outside of our room have been doing.

Are we certain we can vote for them? That we're not stuck with the same situation as yesterday, needing to vote one of the three of us?

tyketime

09-15-2011, 10:54 AM

Narcizo

09-15-2011, 10:59 AM

If Danny is dead, then the deed did not occur in the Study. If he is not dead, then I would suspect he may have been turned evil. Any thought to throwing another vote his way? I don't think we will gain any sort of voting information one way or the other. So it's either him, or a totally random vote.

I can pretty much gaurantee that if we did all vote for Danny he would get three votes today. Nobody else is going to vote him. Much the same as voting Chief.

Narcizo

09-15-2011, 11:03 AM

I don't like the concept of voting blind. We don't know what these players outside of our room have been doing.

The only other way is not to vote but then we won't get any information at all. I think we have to do what we can to get some information out there when we get to the main room.

Chief Rum

09-15-2011, 11:05 AM

The only other way is not to vote but then we won't get any information at all. I think we have to do what we can to get some information out there when we get to the main room.

This will be an interesting social experiment then. What will that tell players like ntn or DV if we vote for them purely on past gameplay? Oh well...

I am fine with any of the candidates proferred. I would probably go with ntn first.

tyketime

09-15-2011, 11:12 AM

This will be an interesting social experiment then. What will that tell players like ntn or DV if we vote for them purely on past gameplay? Oh well..
I am not unsympathetic to your point, Chief. In fact, it was either my 1st or 2nd game here that I questioned the whole metagame aspect. I would tend to agree that it would be a douche thing to do. Especially in light of the fact we don't know what their contributions are in this game. So I can be easily swayed away from those names.

I can pretty much gaurantee that if we did all vote for Danny he would get three votes today. Nobody else is going to vote him. Much the same as voting Chief.
Isn't this Chief's point, but just the reverse? Some players likely to be voted out early (regardless of game play in that specific game), and others who get a longer free pass (presumably because of past contributions). In the long run, don't the results tend to run similar (not necessarily villagers vs wolves, but same cast of characters down the stretch)?

Chief Rum

09-15-2011, 11:17 AM

Isn't this Chief's point, but just the reverse? Some players likely to be voted out early (regardless of game play in that specific game), and others who get a longer free pass (presumably because of past contributions). In the long run, don't the results tend to run similar (not necessarily villagers vs wolves, but same cast of characters down the stretch)?

Yeah, Narcizo more or less say the same thing in different ways. Same as DV or ntn garnering votes for past play, it's unlikely Danny or I, veteran players with strong past records, will be voted out blindly, unless some serious wolf action is involved.

tyketime

09-15-2011, 11:34 AM

CrimsonFox

09-15-2011, 12:55 PM

INVESTIGATE is all you need to do to go places. There is no "GO"

CrimsonFox

09-15-2011, 01:23 PM

Note the new rule 7. Do not direct quote anyone from another thread or PM.

Narcizo

09-15-2011, 01:27 PM

I'm gonna go grab lunch, and then I will be in a couple of meetings this afternoon, so I at least want to get a vote out there. I should be around some early evening to discuss and/or change my vote. I'm gonna pick a couple of names (bhlloy and dubb), and then randomly vote one of these two. It's not a perfect idea, in fact, it's darn near as random as it gets...

VOTE dubb

Dubb's a very good player. He can be a great wolf or a great villager. He's been away a while and got killed off early last game so I won't be voting for him. I actually think there might be something up with Chief. He seems to be much more compliant than ususual. I do agree about the reasoning for voting DV or NTN erring on the sucky side. Don't know where else to go though.

Narcizo

09-15-2011, 01:29 PM

INVESTIGATE is all you need to do to go places. There is no "GO"

Investigate main cabin then, Mr Picky.

Chief Rum

09-15-2011, 01:30 PM

Dubb's a very good player. He can be a great wolf or a great villager. He's been away a while and got killed off early last game so I won't be voting for him. I actually think there might be something up with Chief. He seems to be much more compliant than ususual. I do agree about the reasoning for voting DV or NTN erring on the sucky side. Don't know where else to go though.

Bad read. We don't have any information, so there's really nothing for me to get excited or contentious about.

Chief Rum

09-15-2011, 01:32 PM

Yup.

INVESTIGATE MAIN CABIN ROOM

Narcizo

09-15-2011, 01:37 PM

Furthering on the dodgy Chief vibe - I don't like him voting Danny yesterday and, effectively, closing the voting debate as he knew I wouldn't be around. Vote me and seeing how Danny responds would be my move in his shoes. Does Danny just go along and vote me to save himself or does he try to shift the vote.

Over-analysis at its greatest but I'm going to stay with my vote.

Narcizo

09-15-2011, 01:40 PM

Bad read. We don't have any information, so there's really nothing for me to get excited or contentious about.

We don't have any information so we have to get excited and contentious about every little detail we can pick up on in this thread. :)

Narcizo

09-15-2011, 01:57 PM

Other strategies I can think of for voting is voting someone we think is a better wolf than villager. Don't really have any idea who would fall into that category without Lathum in the game though.

Narcizo

09-15-2011, 01:59 PM

Actually I'd probably put Dubb in that category and probably mauboy. And the whole UTR favouring a wolf player would probably land NTN and DV in there as well.

Narcizo

09-15-2011, 02:01 PM

It will be interesting to see what other people have been saying though. Of course Crimson could have made a new thread for each area every turn to really make things tough.

Narcizo

09-15-2011, 02:02 PM

Talking to myself again.

Yes, you are.

Etc etc.

No I'll leave my vote.

tyketime

09-15-2011, 02:14 PM

Got a few minutes before next meeting starts...

INVESTIGATE is all you need to do to go places. There is no "GO"

You know, in addition to a sense of Evil in the room, I'm also getting a vibe that is a pain in my ass... :D

INVESTIGATE MAIN ROOM

tyketime

09-15-2011, 02:16 PM

Talking to myself again.

Yes, you are.

Etc etc.

No I'll leave my vote.
Funny, I read that and immediately thought of Gollum/Smeagol...

tyketime

09-15-2011, 02:20 PM

You know, in addition to a sense of Evil in the room, I'm also getting a vibe that is a pain in my ass... :D
I should have added that's in addition to the splinter still in my eye from yesterday...

tyketime

09-15-2011, 02:27 PM

Dubb's a very good player. He can be a great wolf or a great villager. He's been away a while and got killed off early last game so I won't be voting for him. I actually think there might be something up with Chief. He seems to be much more compliant than ususual. I do agree about the reasoning for voting DV or NTN erring on the sucky side. Don't know where else to go though.
Ugh, OK. We don't want to be meta-gamey, and we don't like semi randomness. But looks like you still feel fairly strongly about Chief.

Gotta run to next meeting. I should be able to check again before I head out.

Chief Rum

09-15-2011, 05:05 PM

I am going to go ahead and vote for ntndeacon, for reasons stated.

VOTE NTNDEACON

CrimsonFox

09-15-2011, 05:27 PM

VOTES:
Chief Rum - Narcizo (58)
ntndeacon - Chief Rum (103)
dubb - tyketime (86)

INVESTIGATES:
CABIN - Chief Rum, Narcizo, tyketime

CrimsonFox

09-15-2011, 06:27 PM

You may pass one item to anyone else in your room. PM this info to me.

tyketime

09-15-2011, 06:59 PM

I am going to go ahead and vote for ntndeacon, for reasons stated.

VOTE NTNDEACON

Chief: This seems a bit off. You claim you are voting for ntn "for reasons stated". Yet you really seemed opposed to that whole line of thinking earlier. I agreed with you, yet instead of joining me in going somewhere different, you stick with ntn. Hmmm...

CrimsonFox

09-15-2011, 07:47 PM

To clarify, if I PMed you investigation results with an item, then you HAVE that item.

tyketime

09-15-2011, 07:59 PM

I guess we'll have more discussion once we reconvene in the Main Room. I'll leave my vote where it is - purely random. But the play in this room has been a bit sparse...

CrimsonFox

09-15-2011, 08:09 PM

Dead-LINE

CrimsonFox

09-15-2011, 08:28 PM

You hear a lot of shouting and crying and such. You see faces before you of those you've seen before and some new. You then see them flipped through like pages in a book. One of your faces shows up but it mostly goes back to one face. One face. Then it disappears. You are jolted by the sound of a scream and broken window in the cabin.

CrimsonFox

09-15-2011, 08:28 PM

...in the other room that is...

CrimsonFox

09-15-2011, 08:37 PM

Night Actions and item passing due at 7. Will send out INVESTIGATION and movement results soon.

CrimsonFox

09-16-2011, 04:56 AM

bhlloy enters the room. He is alone. He sees countless empty beer and wine bottles littering the kitchen floor and DRINK SPILLS. On a desk he sees pictures and glasses and writings and books in the cabinets. THe shutters behind him slam against the side of the house. He looks out and sees the dark woods. Is there something moving there?

bhlloy

09-16-2011, 09:00 AM

wooooo... it's a one man party. if only those beer and wine bottles weren't empty

bhlloy

09-16-2011, 10:07 AM

I think CR's play is pretty interesting to this point. I know other people certainly thought so. I guess I'm just playing with myself at this point so

Investigate Study
Vote Chief Rum

Hell if I'm going after what ever I saw in the woods. I know how these movies play out.

bhlloy

09-16-2011, 11:59 AM

so ronnnerryyy....

CrimsonFox

09-16-2011, 08:05 PM

deadline, Night actions and item passes to people in your room due at 7

CrimsonFox

09-16-2011, 08:43 PM

Things are quiet. Very quiet...and then the pictures of things start appearing on the wall. Pictures of people you hate. You see one and shoot at it. Things go quite for awhile...and then it feels like the cabin wall moves There is screaming heard from the other room LOUD screaming. And red liquid pours in under the door. Then the screaming stops and the liquid subsides and slides back under the door as if it were never there.

CrimsonFox

09-16-2011, 10:01 PM

The pictures went away. You take another drink . The tape recorder plays.

It is a tinny voice of an older scholarly gentleman.

Last night Henrietta tried to kill me.

I know now, that my wife has
become host to a kandarian demon.

CrimsonFox

09-16-2011, 10:02 PM

I . . . buried her . . . in the
cellar.

God help me, I buried her in the
earthen floor of the fruit cellar!

CrimsonFox

09-16-2011, 10:04 PM

There is another loud noise of a window breaking and a rushing noise followed by another scream.

bhlloy

09-17-2011, 12:12 AM

ugh, no company? that didn't go as planned, time to head back to the cabin I guess

vote Chief Rum
investigate Main Cabin

CrimsonFox

09-17-2011, 12:14 AM

No one enters the study. bhlloy is all alone.

CrimsonFox

09-18-2011, 03:57 PM

As a reminder, the next deadline is Monday.

CrimsonFox

09-18-2011, 04:55 PM

VOTES:
Chief - bhlloy (122)

INVESTIGATES:
CABIN - bhlloy

CrimsonFox

09-19-2011, 08:29 PM

You sit back and wait to see what will happen. Any flinch and your gun goes off. Then the faces appear and you shoot one of them. *BLAM* The faces disappear and you hear a commotion from somewhere.

CrimsonFox

09-19-2011, 10:39 PM

bhlloy leaves the study quickly as 6 others enter the room. You all know who you are.

CrimsonFox

09-19-2011, 11:38 PM

There is an eerie silence as you all step into the study. The end of the tape clicks on. click...click...click...you turn it off. Then a loud boom startles you all. The noise comes from the room, yet, not. Then there is a noise like a backwards wind machine. You follow it around the room. You trail it back to the deer in the other room. THen around the air in front of you. A tuney merrygoround noise is heard...then the galloping of horses off to the left. And a breaking of windows.

"WHAT THE HELL IS THAT?" someone says

"Something...may be trying to break into our world."

There is another crash and boom and a door creaks open. This is a different door you hadn't opened before. Suddenly there is a bzzzzing noise from it and the bluewhite stuttery light of electricity. You all approach very cautiously, squeezing each other's hands. Then you open the door. There is a rush of wind as you enter. and then a face appears. It is not a face you recognize.

CrimsonFox

09-19-2011, 11:43 PM

CrimsonFox

09-19-2011, 11:43 PM

You are hit by the tremendous blast of shivering cold air, then it stops.

CrimsonFox

09-19-2011, 11:45 PM

The face blows out his
breath and watches it vaporize. The screaming face of
an older man with a short grey beard emerges from the wall. A life
like spirit made of swirling smoke and mist.

CrimsonFox

09-19-2011, 11:45 PM

"Annie," he says, almost in pain.

"There is a dark spirit here that
wants to destroy you. Your
salvation lies in the pages
from the Book of the Dead."

CrimsonFox

09-19-2011, 11:46 PM

"There are three pages...you must find..."

CrimsonFox

09-19-2011, 11:46 PM

Recite the passages...

CrimsonFox

09-19-2011, 11:47 PM

Dispel the evil...

CrimsonFox

09-19-2011, 11:48 PM

S A V E M Y S O U L.............

CrimsonFox

09-19-2011, 11:48 PM

And your OWN LIVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CrimsonFox

09-19-2011, 11:49 PM

He screams. There is a BOOM and a blast of air. He mumbles something else to someone you cannot hear. Then he is gone.

CrimsonFox

09-20-2011, 02:52 AM

With this game, the WW forum has passed a quarter of a million posts. Happy Quartmil everyone! (and they can't ALL be from me)

dubb93

09-20-2011, 04:44 AM

Alright Jackal. I think I covered for you long enough. Care to come clean with info?

tyketime

09-20-2011, 06:35 AM

Alright Jackal. I think I covered for you long enough. Care to come clean with info?
Huh?

tyketime

09-20-2011, 06:41 AM

J23

09-20-2011, 08:46 AM

I was really expecting something to be in here w/ the gunshot. Looks like absolutely nothing happened here yesterday, but at least it's good to see the early conversations that happened.

It said 6 people entered. Can we get a role call? We have tyke, dubb, Jackal(?), myself, ??

J23

09-20-2011, 08:50 AM

Here are the rooms that are apparently still open

Cellar
Cabin
Study
Yard
Woods

I was expecting the woods to have closed today given the other areas having closed seemingly forcing us towards this cabin, but apparently not. Maybe there's more to be found out there eventually.

tyketime

09-20-2011, 09:19 AM

It said 6 people entered. Can we get a role call? We have tyke, dubb, Jackal(?), myself, ??
I think Commo_Soldier and dzilla should have also come with us. Hoping they will confirm.

The Jackal

09-20-2011, 09:28 AM

Yeah Autumn stayed behind right?

The Jackal

09-20-2011, 09:30 AM

Alright Jackal. I think I covered for you long enough. Care to come clean with info?

I believe what dubb is referring to is that I can cast spells and he transferred a parchment to me with a spell on it. That spell is SUMMON DEMON. Now that I see all this stuff about the wife being trapped in a demon body, I'm wonder if its related.

Since I'm just a vanilla who can cast spells, I haven't wanted to use this spell because it sounds fairly evil. So I was holding on to it in case I was in trouble or some such. I thought about revealing it yesterday but maybe it's better it got done today with Autumn not with us, just in case he's not on the up and up.

The Jackal

09-20-2011, 09:32 AM

If you guys want me to recite the spell because it might be a page from the book, I'm perfectly willing to do that. All I know about the spell is that the parchment shows a winged creature.

tyketime

09-20-2011, 09:45 AM

Yeah Autumn stayed behind right?
He switched late to go to the Cellar. I'm actually surprised by that move, but do not necessarily want to have a discussion here without him. I'm heading back to the Main Room - unless one of you discover something here worth sticking around for...

INVESTIGATE MAIN ROOM

tyketime

09-20-2011, 09:47 AM

I believe what dubb is referring to is that I can cast spells and he transferred a parchment to me with a spell on it. That spell is SUMMON DEMON. Now that I see all this stuff about the wife being trapped in a demon body, I'm wonder if its related.

Since I'm just a vanilla who can cast spells, I haven't wanted to use this spell because it sounds fairly evil. So I was holding on to it in case I was in trouble or some such. I thought about revealing it yesterday but maybe it's better it got done today with Autumn not with us, just in case he's not on the up and up.
dubb - When you got the parchment, could you "read" it? By that I mean did you know the name of the spell or that it had a picture on it?

The Jackal

09-20-2011, 09:49 AM

tyketime

09-20-2011, 09:52 AM

If you guys want me to recite the spell because it might be a page from the book, I'm perfectly willing to do that. All I know about the spell is that the parchment shows a winged creature.
If you (the group) don't mind, I'd like to know a little more before we start casting spells. Has anyone else come across a spell and were you able to decipher it? I think Danny mentioned in MAIN room that he had a spell. I want to know if we can distinguish good vs bad spells. Or the three mentioned in the text versus other spells/abilities.

The Jackal

09-20-2011, 09:55 AM

Yeah I'm not going to just pull the trigger without some consensus. As you can see I have my own doubts about it or I would have cast it already. I'm not sure if it's supposed to protect me or attack someone or what.

Also it might be prudent to wait until we had all three pieces of parchment at the same time before casting anything, but that might be tough.

tyketime

09-20-2011, 09:58 AM

He said it looked like gibberish to him but asked in our thread if anyone could cast spells, then said he was just going to recite it himself and see what happened (probably because he didn't trust Autumn) and then gave it to me later.
OK, well in that case I will reveal that I also had a parchment that contained red ink and symbols that I could not read. So I passed it on to someone else, who is a Spells expert and is in the Study with us. So... if that person can read the spell, and it helps out the Villagers, maybe it's time to let us know...

So is it possible we have two here with us?

tyketime

09-20-2011, 10:03 AM

I was holding the reveal because I found it here in the Study on Day 1, and I am a weapons expert. Danny claimed in the Main room to have both a spell and a weapon (the knife from ntn's back). I'd be a little surprised there were two parchments in the Study, so I had that as a bit of suspicion against Danny. Nothing more concrete than that.

Commo_Soldier

09-20-2011, 10:15 AM

Commo_Soldier

09-20-2011, 10:17 AM

Investigate Study

Commo_Soldier

09-20-2011, 10:18 AM

Oops,
Univestigate Study
Investigate Cabin Main Room

Commo_Soldier

09-20-2011, 10:20 AM

tyketime

09-20-2011, 10:21 AM

If you are just a vanilla I think we should wait and have Annie read them as you may turn one of our already dead into undead.
That's a good point (regarding having Annie read it - not sure what to make of the dead/undead theory). I just reread description again, and it says read the three passages (from the book). That's why I want to know about the other parchment in the room. The one Jackal has is named Summon Demon. I would like to know if that differs from how the other spell/passage in the room is named.

tyketime

09-20-2011, 10:22 AM

I agree with Tyke, I think we saw what there is to see here. I think we should head to the main room, then the cellar if Autumn has not come back up. Speaking of the cellar, was Autumn the only one down there this turn now?
As far as I know - yes. He was the only one of the 7 of us that were in the Main Room that went a different direction.

Commo_Soldier

09-20-2011, 10:25 AM

As for tonights vote, any ideas? I had a bad feeling about Chief and Autumn before that, but am not so sure on Autumn now. I'm going to vote incase my work gets hectic again today and I can't make it back, I will hopefully be able to follow on my phone today at work.
Vote DZ

Doing this because of how quite DZ has been, can't remember anything of note this game DZ has done. As stated willing to change if someone has a better candidate

Commo_Soldier

09-20-2011, 10:28 AM

That's a good point (regarding having Annie read it - not sure what to make of the dead/undead theory). I just reread description again, and it says read the three passages (from the book). That's why I want to know about the other parchment in the room. The one Jackal has is named Summon Demon. I would like to know if that differs from how the other spell/passage in the room is named.

So is the parchment not a spell it self but a passage in the book of the dead? If so I'd have to say the book is in the game and if no one has mentioned it I hope it is not in wolf hands.

Commo_Soldier

09-20-2011, 10:31 AM

OK. So bhlloy is alive. We heard a gunshot, but he clearly wasn't a victim, and no other bodies in here. Looks like he has a gun and can somehow shoot at others?

For me, not a lot of new information happened in the Study while I was away. So I'm focusing more on CF's descriptions. Seems to me we have to pass three pages to Annie. If she then recites the passges, she will dispel the evil. Not sure if that is a global win, or maybe a victory condition for her.

So any chance the parchments that have been mentioned were pages from the book?

Last thoughts before I'm off to work. Wasn't NTN killed through a mirror? Maybe this is how killings are done in distant areas, so if anyone has a day by day breakdown, or we could wait until main room, we can try to piece together who is all alive and who is dead.

J23

09-20-2011, 10:40 AM

investigate Cabin

I'd be awfully careful about casting a spell that summons a demon as a good guy. That just doesn't seem like a good idea.

I think the plan was to all try to meet up in the main cabin area tomorrow, right? Hopefully the people outside from the woods/yard will have headed in by then and we can try to get a good discussion amongst everyone.

The Jackal

09-20-2011, 11:11 AM

I'd be awfully careful about casting a spell that summons a demon as a good guy. That just doesn't seem like a good idea.

Yeah.. that's why I haven't cast it. But it's good that the info is out there now, I felt too sneaky keeping it in. I'll just hold on to it for now until we have a better idea of what we're supposed to do.

The Jackal

09-20-2011, 11:11 AM

INVESTIGATE MAIN CABIN

dubb93

09-20-2011, 11:14 AM

The parchment I had was pure gibberish to me. I couldn't make anything out on it.

tyketime

09-20-2011, 12:23 PM

There is another crash and boom and a door creaks open. This is a different door you hadn't opened before. Suddenly there is a bzzzzing noise from it and the bluewhite stuttery light of electricity. You all approach very cautiously, squeezing each other's hands. Then you open the door. There is a rush of wind as you enter. and then a face appears. It is not a face you recognize.
CF: Did this door disappear permanently, or do we have another entry/exit from the Study?

tyketime

09-20-2011, 12:27 PM

I don't want to wait too late to put my vote in today - not sure what my availability will be tonight. I think the only vote so far is for dzilla (by Commo). Let me check...

CrimsonFox

09-20-2011, 12:30 PM

CF: Did this door disappear permanently, or do we have another entry/exit from the Study?

it's just a little side room. No other exits.

dubb93

09-20-2011, 12:31 PM

I'm starting to have doubts about my faith in Jackal. I'm not sure it is enough to vote him today, but Autumn mentioned yesterday about Jackal playing the middle ground striking him as odd. It struck me as odd both yesterday and today but I didn't want to say anything at the time b/c I wanted to call Jackal on the parchment today.

Tyke--Why did you choose to pass your parchment? Are you sure you put it in the right hands? Any doubts since you passed it that you may have made a bad decision?

tyketime

09-20-2011, 12:35 PM

I don't want to wait too late to put my vote in today - not sure what my availability will be tonight. I think the only vote so far is for dzilla (by Commo). Let me check...
OK - That looks right to me. I don't have any strong feelings one way or the other about the rest of us in here. And I gleaned nothing about bhlloy from his solo stay in here. Actually, that's not quite true. He did vote for Chief Rum, as I did in the last vote.

I'm starting to feel the same way about dzilla that Commo has. You haven't really given us a lot to work with - at least the few days I've been in the same room. And I guess that may mean I misjudged you. I think I want to hear something more from you. Especially in light of the fact that the parchment I found I passed to you. I want to get that out on the record in case something nefarious happens to me - I trust the others will know you had a part to play. If I've misjudged you, then please accept my apology. But you must also know that with this style game (multiple rooms), information is even more at a premium. I/We need to see more input from you. I'll gladly change my vote if you chime in with some reasonable explanations & analysis. Until then...

VOTE DZILLA

dubb93

09-20-2011, 12:38 PM

OK - That looks right to me. I don't have any strong feelings one way or the other about the rest of us in here. And I gleaned nothing about bhlloy from his solo stay in here. Actually, that's not quite true. He did vote for Chief Rum, as I did in the last vote.

I'm starting to feel the same way about dzilla that Commo has. You haven't really given us a lot to work with - at least the few days I've been in the same room. And I guess that may mean I misjudged you. I think I want to hear something more from you. Especially in light of the fact that the parchment I found I passed to you. I want to get that out on the record in case something nefarious happens to me - I trust the others will know you had a part to play. If I've misjudged you, then please accept my apology. But you must also know that with this style game (multiple rooms), information is even more at a premium. I/We need to see more input from you. I'll gladly change my vote if you chime in with some reasonable explanations & analysis. Until then...

VOTE DZILLA

Wait, I thought dzilla started with me not you? Why would you pass anything to him? When exactly did you pass this guy anything? You shouldn't have had any contact with him prior to two days ago? Why would you give it to him? Am I missing something here?

tyketime

09-20-2011, 12:39 PM

Tyke--Why did you choose to pass your parchment? Are you sure you put it in the right hands? Any doubts since you passed it that you may have made a bad decision?
Yikes - you just read my mind...

I just posted with my thoughts. I passed it to dzilla because he was a spells expert, and quite frankly, I wasn't sure what to make of the back-and-forth between you & Autumn. At that point, I didn't trust either one of you.

So yeah, do I have questions or doubts? I'm starting to. I'm hoping dzilla will come on board and allay those fears, but until then...

tyketime

09-20-2011, 12:41 PM

Wait, I thought dzilla started with me not you? Why would you pass anything to him? When exactly did you pass this guy anything? You shouldn't have had any contact with him prior to two days ago? Why would you give it to him? Am I missing something here?
No, I first met up with him in the Main Room a couple days ago. See reason above for reason why. I had no use for it, and I played a hunch. If it turns out that he is EVIL, well it is now all out on record for the rest of you to sort through and deal with.

dubb93

09-20-2011, 12:43 PM

tyketime

09-20-2011, 12:52 PM

So you passed it just b/c he said he was a spells expert? Personally if I had no read on the guy I would have held on to it.

I passed to Jackal b/c he seemed to be helpful, all of his info was being backed up by Bug, and I felt we both had the same read on Autumn. Now I feel Autumn is probably on the up and up after yesterday and I'm all of a sudden unsure what that does to my feeling of Jackal. I just couldn't backtrack yesterday b/c I knew Jackal had that parchment and I wanted him to think I still trusted him today when I asked about it.
Well you will notice that some of my earlier posts were much more generic, in trying to entice the information out of him before I named him. But I'm not sure of my availability later on. I don't think he has posted at all since moving into the Study. So instead of waiting for him, I've decided to put it all out there in black and white. Was it a bit premature - probably. But I feel we haven't made a lot of progress in the past couple of days. Trouble is, we just don't have enough information to know how we are doing overall...

dubb93

09-20-2011, 12:58 PM

Well you will notice that some of my earlier posts were much more generic, in trying to entice the information out of him before I named him. But I'm not sure of my availability later on. I don't think he has posted at all since moving into the Study. So instead of waiting for him, I've decided to put it all out there in black and white. Was it a bit premature - probably. But I feel we haven't made a lot of progress in the past couple of days. Trouble is, we just don't have enough information to know how we are doing overall...

Seems like a non answer, but I understand your reasons. We will wait for DZ and see what he has to say.

tyketime

09-20-2011, 01:00 PM

Seems like a non answer, but I understand your reasons. We will wait for DZ and see what he has to say.
Sorry if I didn't answer your question, I thought I had. But hey, if I was really evil, and if dzilla was also evil, I sure as heck wouldn't have advertised that I gave him the parchment. Gotta run to a 2pm meeting. Back after that.

dubb93

09-20-2011, 01:01 PM

Sorry if I didn't answer your question, I thought I had. But hey, if I was really evil, and if dzilla was also evil, I sure as heck wouldn't have advertised that I gave him the parchment. Gotta run to a 2pm meeting. Back after that.

I understand. I never said you were both evil. I find that highly unlikely. ;)

dubb93

09-20-2011, 01:04 PM

Hmmmmm....I wonder why my page was complete gibberish yet Tyke was able to make some things out on his.

tyketime

09-20-2011, 01:41 PM

Hmmmmm....I wonder why my page was complete gibberish yet Tyke was able to make some things out on his.
That's why I was asking earlier. Are there material differences in Spells vs Book pages? Perhaps I can "read" the book and not make sense of it versus something different for Evil spells. Or vice versa. If you go back and look at my posts again, that's exactly what I was trying to determine without spelling it all out. Unfortunately, there hasn't been a lot of interaction today (well some of us have chimed in quite nicely) to see if I could trap one of them. And I didn't want to keep my suspicions to myself any longer.

J23

09-20-2011, 01:53 PM

The page you're referring to Dubb is the spell you gave to Jackal? (the summon demon one)

The page you had tyke, you had no word if it was a spell or not and I'm guessing you're not a spells expert?

J23

09-20-2011, 01:55 PM

VOTE DZILLA

I'm going to leave this unless we hear back from him or we can piece something together where we didn't just hand off a potential game winning item (well, 1/3 apparently?) to someone that's not responding.

dubb93

09-20-2011, 02:01 PM

Quite frankly it seems to me we have already had one too many "vote the person who isn't responding votes" this game.

Day 3 I'm fairly certain DV was the lynch since he got every vote in my thread and then every vote in the next thread we visited that same day. I would calm down guys. Don't jump the gun here, especially you aren't planning on coming back b/c I'm not certain Dzilla is the one who did anything wrong here. Voting him b/c he hasn't showed up yet is pretty shifty since he was clearly active enough yesterday to get here in the first place. Give this time to play out.

J23

09-20-2011, 02:06 PM

I'm happy enough to move the vote off, but if he ends up not responding all day, then I think it's a bad thing. If he's evil, it's very bad, and if he's not, it's slightly bad because it means we'll sit in the study another day w/ an item that needs to be combined with a couple others to win the game.

J23

09-20-2011, 02:07 PM

Of course, the above is based off the idea that the parchment he was passed is one of the three mentioned in CF's flavor text.

I also can't go back to the other thread to see what time frame he posted during to figure out if he's usually not around during the day or not.

dubb93

09-20-2011, 02:14 PM

That's why I was asking earlier. Are there material differences in Spells vs Book pages? Perhaps I can "read" the book and not make sense of it versus something different for Evil spells

I don't know. You are are assuming much and throwing the word evil around alot. I have no idea what I found. I found a piece of parchment with gibberish on it. I know nothing else about it other than what Jackal has said.

dubb93

09-20-2011, 02:15 PM

I also can't go back to the other thread to see what time frame he posted during to figure out if he's usually not around during the day or not.

Not for sure but I'm thinking no. I think you were the first to decide to investigate this place? Jackal + I were 2 and 3. Everyone else would have been later.

The Jackal

09-20-2011, 02:20 PM

I don't know what to tell you dubb, the only way I was being "friendly middleman" is because I never thought I had enough on Autumn to want to vote him. But I think that's partially because the voting in this game has been weird with not knowing if people are actually dead or not.

Don't you think I would have summoned a demon if I was a bad guy?

dubb93

09-20-2011, 02:24 PM

Don't you think I would have summoned a demon if I was a bad guy?

Did you summon the cellar demon?

J23

09-20-2011, 02:31 PM

dubb93

09-20-2011, 02:33 PM

Did it specify cellar demon? That's the first mention of cellar that I saw with it. Given that, I'd be careful considering we have at least one person down there (Autumn) and potentially 2 others that were there the previous day (I think there were 2 but can't recall who atm).

No it did not. But I assume you were not on late last night? Prior to the new room assignments a demon/Deadite came out of the cellar but we(as a group in the cabin) were able to kill it.

It could have been flavor, it could have been summoned, or it could have been a failed night kill. I'm not going to claim to know.

tyketime

09-20-2011, 02:34 PM

The page you had tyke, you had no word if it was a spell or not and I'm guessing you're not a spells expert?
It was described as having strange red ink and symbols that I do not recognize.

Maybe this is all just flavoring from CF. But he did say to pay attention to specific descriptions. We now know that there are spells - some apparently good and others presumably bad. In the rooms I was in, there was relatively little discussion about the objects in play. Danny was the only other one who I knew had a spell, but he was whisked away before I could ask him about it.

So I'm not trying to be an alarmist. But with CF's additional description that there are three pages of text that appear to help Annie, we need to figure out if we can distinguish between the two or not.

dubb93

09-20-2011, 02:34 PM

Hell, it could have been zombie CR if he was the lynch. I also believe there was a gunshot heard down there.

tyketime

09-20-2011, 02:38 PM

No it did not. But I assume you were not on late last night? Prior to the new room assignments a demon/Deadite came out of the cellar but we(as a group in the cabin) were able to kill it.

It could have been flavor, it could have been summoned, or it could have been a failed night kill. I'm not going to claim to know.
I wish I had written out the exact description. I will make better notes tomorrow! That's an interesting take, dubb. I read that a little differently. I actually read it as a successful lynch of an evil player. But I could be way off. What did any of the rest of you think?

dubb93

09-20-2011, 02:41 PM

I wish I had written out the exact description. I will make better notes tomorrow! That's an interesting take, dubb. I read that a little differently. I actually read it as a successful lynch of an evil player. But I could be way off. What did any of the rest of you think?

IMO it was entirely too late to have to do with the lynch. It was after night actions were processed @ 2230 EST. The actual post wasn't at that time, I'm not sure when it was exactly, but that was the night deadline and the post was after that.

tyketime

09-20-2011, 02:50 PM

IMO it was entirely too late to have to do with the lynch. It was after night actions were processed @ 2230 EST. The actual post wasn't at that time, I'm not sure when it was exactly, but that was the night deadline and the post was after that.
OK - we can confirm timing tomorrow.

dzilla77

09-20-2011, 02:53 PM

If you (the group) don't mind, I'd like to know a little more before we start casting spells. Has anyone else come across a spell and were you able to decipher it? I think Danny mentioned in MAIN room that he had a spell. I want to know if we can distinguish good vs bad spells. Or the three mentioned in the text versus other spells/abilities.

I am in the study.

Danny gave me his spell and I used it last night. I am not willing to reveal what type of spell it was right now.

J23

09-20-2011, 02:54 PM

I did miss that entirely unfortunately. Now your comments about the cellar bit obviously make more sense as well as asking Jackal right off about the spell today.

tyketime

09-20-2011, 02:56 PM

I am in the study.

Danny gave me his spell and I used it last night. I am not willing to reveal what type of spell it was right now.
How do you know it came from Danny?

dubb93

09-20-2011, 02:57 PM

How do you know it came from Danny?

I need to know this too. I also need to know if Tyke gave you anything DZ.

J23

09-20-2011, 02:58 PM

Did you get the parchment from tyke and was it another spell or just a parchment as she thought?

dzilla77

09-20-2011, 02:58 PM

OK - That looks right to me. I don't have any strong feelings one way or the other about the rest of us in here. And I gleaned nothing about bhlloy from his solo stay in here. Actually, that's not quite true. He did vote for Chief Rum, as I did in the last vote.

I'm starting to feel the same way about dzilla that Commo has. You haven't really given us a lot to work with - at least the few days I've been in the same room. And I guess that may mean I misjudged you. I think I want to hear something more from you. Especially in light of the fact that the parchment I found I passed to you. I want to get that out on the record in case something nefarious happens to me - I trust the others will know you had a part to play. If I've misjudged you, then please accept my apology. But you must also know that with this style game (multiple rooms), information is even more at a premium. I/We need to see more input from you. I'll gladly change my vote if you chime in with some reasonable explanations & analysis. Until then...

VOTE DZILLA
Tyke, if you are talking about passing an item to me, you are mistaken. As I mentioned above, Danny gave me a spell and I used it last night. I am not ready to reveal what type of spell it was.

And dubb is correct, i have been with him the whole time.

tyketime

09-20-2011, 03:00 PM

Tyke, if you are talking about passing an item to me, you are mistaken. As I mentioned above, Danny gave me a spell and I used it last night. I am not ready to reveal what type of spell it was.

And dubb is correct, i have been with him the whole time.
Bzzzttt - WRONG answer! I know for a fact I gave you the spell. You should have read the entire thread first before responding...

dubb93

09-20-2011, 03:00 PM

And dubb is correct, i have been with him the whole time.

You have NOT been with me the whole time. After D1 I was moving with Bug, Autumn, DV, and Jackal. We left DV behind after D2 and I didn't meet you again until D4.

dzilla77

09-20-2011, 03:00 PM

Tyke, if you are talking about passing an item to me, you are mistaken. As I mentioned above, Danny gave me a spell and I used it last night. I am not ready to reveal what type of spell it was.

And dubb is correct, i have been with him the whole time.
I stand corrected, I don't know who it was from. Danny also had a spell in the cabin - he was the only person I was aware of with a spell.

tyketime

09-20-2011, 03:02 PM

Gotta say - at this point I feel pretty good about my vote!

dzilla77

09-20-2011, 03:02 PM

Bzzzttt - WRONG answer! I know for a fact I gave you the spell. You should have read the entire thread first before responding...
The PM didn't state who gave me the spell - so you could in fact be lying. In fact, I am more likely to believe you are lying since you are so aggressively attacking me.

Vote Tyke

dubb93

09-20-2011, 03:02 PM

Jackal, when you got my parchment did it say I passed it to you or were you left to assume?

dubb93

09-20-2011, 03:04 PM

The PM didn't state who gave me the spell - so you could in fact be lying. In fact, I am more likely to believe you are lying since you are so aggressively attacking me.

You are getting railroaded. I will wait for Jackal to answer my question to determine whether I think there is any grounds for it here.

tyketime

09-20-2011, 03:04 PM

I stand corrected, I don't know who it was from. Danny also had a spell in the cabin - he was the only person I was aware of with a spell.
Whether you used it or not, I obviously can't say. But looks like you've posted two things that don't appear to be as factually correct as you'd hoped...

dzilla77

09-20-2011, 03:04 PM

I am more than happy to take a lynch today. If it appears I will be lynched, I will reveal what the spell was. At that point tyke, it will be clear that you are a baddie.

dubb93

09-20-2011, 03:05 PM

Calm down guys. Wait for Jackal. I can't believe I'm the voice of reason today. This has to be a first.

J23

09-20-2011, 03:05 PM

So you've only been passed one thing this whole time dzilla?

dzilla77

09-20-2011, 03:06 PM

You are getting railroaded. I will wait for Jackal to answer my question to determine whether I think there is any grounds for it here.

Yep, it is very clear. I think its also clear that tyke is a wolf.

dzilla77

09-20-2011, 03:07 PM

So you've only been passed one thing this whole time dzilla?
That is correct.

J23

09-20-2011, 03:07 PM

dubb93

09-20-2011, 03:08 PM

FWIW Dzilla was the first to cast a vote on D1 in my starting thread and D2 in his 2nd thread(the yard which I later visited).

I'm not sure a wolf playing the UTR role you guys have him pegged for would do such a thing.

dzilla77

09-20-2011, 03:09 PM

If you (the group) don't mind, I'd like to know a little more before we start casting spells. Has anyone else come across a spell and were you able to decipher it? I think Danny mentioned in MAIN room that he had a spell. I want to know if we can distinguish good vs bad spells. Or the three mentioned in the text versus other spells/abilities.

Yes, people with spell ability know what the spell does before they use it.

tyketime

09-20-2011, 03:14 PM

Yes, people with spell ability know what the spell does before they use it.

If that's true... then why does Jackal appear not to know effects of his spell?

I believe what dubb is referring to is that I can cast spells and he transferred a parchment to me with a spell on it. That spell is SUMMON DEMON. Now that I see all this stuff about the wife being trapped in a demon body, I'm wonder if its related.

Since I'm just a vanilla who can cast spells, I haven't wanted to use this spell because it sounds fairly evil. So I was holding on to it in case I was in trouble or some such. I thought about revealing it yesterday but maybe it's better it got done today with Autumn not with us, just in case he's not on the up and up.

If you guys want me to recite the spell because it might be a page from the book, I'm perfectly willing to do that. All I know about the spell is that the parchment shows a winged creature.

dubb93

09-20-2011, 03:15 PM

I've stated that I'm fine with moving my vote, but I'm just trying to get my answer before I decide to do so.. it's still almost 5 hours til deadline so I don't feel the need to rush to pull off the vote. Calling it being railroaded is a bit harsh at this point.

Three votes based on his inactivity when he has clearly been active enough each day to keep moving is harsh. If you want to vote him for some other reason fine. But all of his votes up to that point were based on inactivity, which is a farce IMO.

I'm also not sure why Tyke would pass him the spell and then all of a sudden today when the guy doesn't post for a few hours be concerned that the spell is lost forever. To me that was the oddest move of the day in this thread. If that guy had gone a day or days with no activity and the deadline was looming then alright, panic, but early in the day when the guy has been by all accounts active to this point, to panic b/c he hasn't showed up yet for the day, is odd.

dzilla77

09-20-2011, 03:20 PM

If that's true... then why does Jackal appear not to know effects of his spell?

I am not even going to speculate on why Jackal doesn't know what his spell does.

I knew what mine did and I read it.

J23

09-20-2011, 03:30 PM

Three votes based on his inactivity when he has clearly been active enough each day to keep moving is harsh. If you want to vote him for some other reason fine. But all of his votes up to that point were based on inactivity, which is a farce IMO.

I guess I didn't notice Jackal put his vote on him as well if he got up to 3. I thought it was just Tyke and I, and I had even said that it was pretty much a placeholder. If what Tyke was inferring with it being a parchment rather than a spell right after CF's flavor text mentioned combining the three parchments or something along those lines, I thought it was important to get to the bottom of it. I think most would agree that putting votes on people tends to inspire them to be more active in the thread.

dzilla77

09-20-2011, 03:33 PM

Investigate main cabin

dubb93

09-20-2011, 03:33 PM

I guess I didn't notice Jackal put his vote on him as well if he got up to 3. I thought it was just Tyke and I, and I had even said that it was pretty much a placeholder. If what Tyke was inferring with it being a parchment rather than a spell right after CF's flavor text mentioned combining the three parchments or something along those lines, I thought it was important to get to the bottom of it. I think most would agree that putting votes on people tends to inspire them to be more active in the thread.

I think you are confused by the word parchment. I found a "parchment." It was a parchment to me b/c I couldn't read it. I'm assuming it was a spell and Jackal seems to confirm this, but to me is was just a "parchment with gibberish."

A spell is just a parchment to those who can't read it. I can confirm that.

tyketime

09-20-2011, 03:34 PM

Here's the deal, dubb. WW games in general are tough enough. When it's compounded with us all in separate rooms, and very little information about what's going on elsewhere, we need to make the best use of time & information.

I said above I passed the parchment along to dzilla because he said he was a Spell Expert. That was on Friday night. He had all weekend and posted very little. When CF posted last night that there were three pages of a book, this was the first I had heard of that. It got me thinking whether I passed him a spell or a book page. Today, I've asked all sorts of generic questions to try and pin down specifics regarding the objects. But as the day went on, and my already stated concern regarding my availability tonight, I started having doubts about having passed the object to him. In fact, you also asked me whether I had doubts and concerns, and I said yes. As time has passed, I've been more & more specific because I want the information out there for everyone to see.

To say that I have railroaded him is a stretch. I've asked a couple of specific questions. he answered both of them with what appears to be less than the truth. Instead of going in to specifics to defend himself, he backtracks & immediately casts a vote on me calling me wolfish. You've both been in the Study & the Main room. The only two rooms I've been in. I doubt you will find any specific wolf move on my part. To date, I've been one of the most vocal players with lots of analysis and specific details. I cast my vote at 1:30, not exactly early in the day. But with enough time to have some discussion before I head out. My limited experience tells me the devil is in the details, the specifics.

tyketime

09-20-2011, 03:36 PM

I think you are confused by the word parchment. I found a "parchment." It was a parchment to me b/c I couldn't read it. I'm assuming it was a spell and Jackal seems to confirm this, but to me is was just a "parchment with gibberish."

A spell is just a parchment to those who can't read it. I can confirm that.
I can confirm that the item I had and passed along to dzilla was also a parchment. So you may be right that a parchment to us is a spell to an expert.

There is now this issue that one expert said he knows what a spell does before casting it, and the other seemed less sure of it's effect.

dubb93

09-20-2011, 03:37 PM

dubb93

09-20-2011, 03:38 PM

The more I think about it the less I think I can trust Jackal after the demon/deadite came out of the cellar last night. I'm going to go with my gut.

Vote Tyke

dzilla77

09-20-2011, 03:39 PM

tyketime

09-20-2011, 03:41 PM

Tyke if you are claiming not to be a master of spells and to have "details" about the "parchment" you passed you are not being truthful. It would simply be a parchment with gibberish to you. You can't catch the spellmaster in a lie about the spell if you aren't one yourself. You would know nothing about what you passed. Just like I can only go by what Jackal tells me about it. I know nothing about it other than I found it and can't read it.

I will wait on Jackal to determine if you know who passes you an item or if you just get it. If it is the first then I will vote DZ, if it is the latter then I will be voting for you.
I am a weapons expert. I have said what I found in the investigation. But before you condemn, please re-read my posts. There may be a distinction between book pages and spells. I don't know for sure.

I couldn't read the parchment. All I can tell you is that it had red ink and symbols I could not recognize. It is possible that "gibberish" and "symbols I don't recognize" are the same thing as well.

tyketime

09-20-2011, 03:43 PM

Tyke you can believe what you want. Like I said, i have no problem being lynched. I will be revealed as a vanilla villager (human in this game). With the other info I have, it will make you look extremely suspicious.
OK dzilla - let's play the benefit of the doubt. Since you don't want to reveal the effect of the spell, can you at least describe it? I'm sure CF gave you some description.

dzilla77

09-20-2011, 03:50 PM

OK dzilla - let's play the benefit of the doubt. Since you don't want to reveal the effect of the spell, can you at least describe it? I'm sure CF gave you some description.

It was SEANCE spell. It can be used as a night action to speak with the dead professor. I could ask him to tell me if a single individual was good or evil.

So basically it is a scan.

dubb93

09-20-2011, 03:56 PM

It was SEANCE spell. It can be used as a night action to speak with the dead professor. I could ask him to tell me if a single individual was good or evil.

So basically it is a scan.

Why in gods name would you not want to reveal your scan result? I mean if you tell me you used it on Tyke at this point you may as well be telling me you are a wolf.

dubb93

09-20-2011, 03:58 PM

Personally when I am the seer my biggest fear is getting caught with my "pants down" and not getting my scan results out prior to me biting the dust. If I had a one time scan I can't for the life of me imagine why I would sit on that information.

J23

09-20-2011, 03:59 PM

Well that description certainly seems more informative than what Jackal shared earlier. Maybe he didn't tell us everything he knew about the summon demon spell at the time.

J23

09-20-2011, 04:00 PM

Why in gods name would you not want to reveal your scan result? I mean if you tell me you used it on Tyke at this point you may as well be telling me you are a wolf.

I'd agree with this. If you got the spell two nights ago, what were your scan results last night? There's no reason I can think of to tell us you have a scan and not share the results.

dubb93

09-20-2011, 04:01 PM

Commo, I keep seeing you lurking on and off during the day. I need to know what you make of all of this. I don't like lurkers.

J23

09-20-2011, 04:02 PM

Heading home from work in a few. Hopefully I'll come back to all of this making more sense.

dubb93

09-20-2011, 04:02 PM

Heading home from work in a few. Hopefully I'll come back to all of this making more sense.

I think you are being optimistic. Nothing in the study today makes any sense.

Commo_Soldier

09-20-2011, 04:05 PM

I'm mainly lurking because I'm on my phone and it is a pain to write lots. I'm not sure what to name right now, but I think tyke is a villager. I'm most suspicious of dz and jackal. I was really confused why dz would only say what the spell did right before death.

dzilla77

09-20-2011, 04:09 PM

Why in gods name would you not want to reveal your scan result? I mean if you tell me you used it on Tyke at this point you may as well be telling me you are a wolf.

Since everyone is so interested in the result and I will likely be lynched today, here it is:

Dubb is good.

Commo_Soldier

09-20-2011, 04:21 PM

Since everyone is so interested in the result and I will likely be lynched today, here it is:

Dubb is good.

I really question why you would keep this from everyone and only share if you might be lynched. I see no way how this being out in the open is a bad thing. That sad is it worth lynch ing you over I don't know.

dzilla77

09-20-2011, 04:25 PM

Lynch me - it will confirm that dubb is good. Although he is likely to be night killed. That is why I didn't reveal immediately.

The Jackal

09-20-2011, 04:26 PM

Jackal, when you got my parchment did it say I passed it to you or were you left to assume?

It didn't say who gave it to me, just that I received an item. I knew it was from you, obviously.

The Jackal

09-20-2011, 04:27 PM

Crazy amount happened while I was out of thread, jeez, trying to catch up.

The Jackal

09-20-2011, 04:29 PM

Well that description certainly seems more informative than what Jackal shared earlier. Maybe he didn't tell us everything he knew about the summon demon spell at the time.

I've told you everything I know. At first all I knew was the name of the spell, so I asked if I knew anything about it and all I got in response was the picture of the winged creature. I have no idea what it will do when/if I recite it. I'm hoping it has to do with winning the game rather than just summoning an evil creature to wreak havoc - but if the latter is the case then it's not getting used.

The Jackal

09-20-2011, 04:30 PM

The more I think about it the less I think I can trust Jackal after the demon/deadite came out of the cellar last night. I'm going to go with my gut.

Vote Tyke

There was a demon in the cellar? I must have missed that. I can prove to you I still have the parchment if you really want..