Official College Football - Week 5 Thread

[DeToxRox]

USF @ Pitt gets us rolling Thursday.

Saturday then brings:

A&M vs Arkansas
Auburn vs South Carolina
Clemson vs Va. Tech
Alabama vs Florida
Nebraska vs Wisconsin

Nebraska vs Wisky will be of the most interest to me. Wisconsin has yet to play any team of relevance but has been impressive regardless. They are 9 point favorites (or at least were as of last night) and could easily blow Nebraska out as the Huskers haven't exactly looked amazing this year, but at the same time the Huskers D is built perfectly to go head to head with the Badgers.

[DeToxRox]

Also, we haven't discussed the fact that Mike Locksley was fired from New Mexico after an underaged player was pulled over for a DWI in a car registered to Locksley. Now some places have reported it was Locksley's sons car and he let a football player borrow it, but considering the absolute piece of shit Locksley himself is, it wouldn't shock me if he just gave it to the kid to use.

Feel bad for New Mexico now. How will they ever host another high level recruit from Maryland again?

[Ksyrup]

Who was the really high-profile recruit from 2010 that he got? I remember him being from Miami, having his presser, and choosing between like Miami, FSU, Alabama, and New Mexico, and picking NM. That right there should have sparked an investigation into Locksley.

[bronconick]

Who was the really high-profile recruit from 2010 that he got? I remember him being from Miami, having his presser, and choosing between like Miami, FSU, Alabama, and New Mexico, and picking NM. That right there should have sparked an investigation into Locksley.


Calvin Smith. 4* DT.

[Logan]

Excited for the Rutgers-Cuse game Saturday. We have a couple years worth of revenge to pay back.

[Marmel]

Excited for the Rutgers-Cuse game Saturday. We have a couple years worth of revenge to pay back.

Marrone >>>>> Shady

[MacroGuru]

In a game nobody outside of Utah cares about except maybe me and BYU14....Utah State @ BYU....and the way USU and BYU are playing...I'm worried.

[Logan]

Marrone >>>>> Shady

Clever.

[Matthean]

Alabama vs Florida
Nebraska vs Wisconsin

The two key games for me. Nebraska vs. Wisconsin could be a preview of the Big Ten title game. This is really the only big test for Wisconsin all year as they will be solid favorites from here on out. It would be interesting to see picking between teams going to the title game and you have an undefeated Wisconsin team versus a one loss SEC team.

I think Florida is far more an issue than people are giving them credit. It's at night and in The Swamp so it will be interesting to see how this goes. If 'Bama wins here, only against LSU would they not be decently favored so this is huge for them. Florida plays 'Bama and then LSU. I don't think a team can channel it two weeks in a row against that good of a tandem.

Minor side note, MSU vs. OSU. OSU has been a thorn in the side of MSU for some time. OSU won't get their players back until after this and OSU looks rather human. MSU got beat in the only game that they played somebody with a pulse. This is definitely a "little brother" type of game for State. They need to drive a stake into the heart of OSU when they have a chance to.

[bronconick]

Florida is going to score like 6 points on Alabama. They're horrible in the red zone and don't use their wide receivers.

[Marmel]

Clever.

and true.

[MrBug708]

Stanford is going to boatrace UCLA this weekend. Spread is -21, which is really low

[Logan]

and true.

I'm sorry that Cuse fired Pasqualoni and Ray Rice and Courtney Greene chose to go somewhere else. Beyond that, cite something or STFU.

[Passacaglia]

Nebraska vs. Wisconsin could be a preview of the Big Ten title game.

Are you telling me you actually remember which team is in which division? I've got some catching up to do...

[General Mike]

Excited for the Rutgers-Cuse game Saturday. We have a couple years worth of revenge to pay back.
We need to beat them like they stole something. Because they did. Pitt as well. :popcorn:

[General Mike]

Are you telling me you actually remember which team is in which division? I've got some catching up to do...

Dola, It's really quite simple. All the teams that start with M and N are in the division with Iowa. Everyone else is in the other division.

[Matthean]

Are you telling me you actually remember which team is in which division? I've got some catching up to do...

Why of course...after I had the Big Ten standings loaded in a different tab. :D

[Marmel]

I'm sorry that Cuse fired Pasqualoni and Ray Rice and Courtney Greene chose to go somewhere else. Beyond that, cite something or STFU.

I love Rutgers fans. Marrone is 2-0 against Shady.
Syracuse is 30-10-1 All-Time against Rutgers.

You were better for a 5 year stretch, which coincided with the worst 5 year stretch in Syracuse history. Is that what you want to hang your hat on? Really?

Maybe if you are lucky you'll get to 30-11-1 before we stop playing you. Have fun in the Big East.

[tarcone]

Iowa has a bye week. We have unveiled the no huddle offense. Cant wait to see what the next game against PsU brings on Oct. 8th.

Im really looking forward to NEB-WISC. Should be a fun game.

[Logan]

I love Rutgers fans. Marrone is 2-0 against Shady.
Syracuse is 30-10-1 All-Time against Rutgers.

You were better for a 5 year stretch, which coincided with the worst 5 year stretch in Syracuse history. Is that what you want to hang your hat on? Really?

Maybe if you are lucky you'll get to 30-11-1 before we stop playing you. Have fun in the Big East.

Such typical trash from you. I didn't talk one ounce of smack. Just asked for a reference to his "shadyness". Which you have none. Carry on dickhead.

[molson]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again, the Syracuse/Rutgers rivalry is the most heated and emotional in the history of sports. It's really too bad it's going away, with Syracuse moving to the ACC and Rutgers moving to the big 10 to deliver the NYC market.

[Chief Rum]

Stanford is going to boatrace UCLA this weekend. Spread is -21, which is really low

Yeah, this one's gonna get ugly.

[Logan]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again, the Syracuse/Rutgers rivalry is the most heated and emotional in the history of sports. It's really too bad it's going away, with Syracuse moving to the ACC and Rutgers moving to the big 10 to deliver the NYC market.

God forbid someone says they are looking forward to a game without the results of the 1980's being brought up.

And you shouldn't have edited your post, it was good.

[molson]

God forbid someone says they are looking forward to a game without the results of the 1980's being brought up.

And you shouldn't have edited your post, it was good.

Well, you posted that you wanted "revenge" for something, not sure what, I think that's what prompted the response (And I think that qualifies as mild smack, maybe an ounce, ounce and a half). The response was disproportionate, sure, but I think it also ties in with the Rutgers fanbase bragging about being in huge demand last year and that having it not pan out.

[rowech]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again, the Syracuse/Rutgers rivalry is the most heated and emotional in the history of sports. It's really too bad it's going away, with Syracuse moving to the ACC and Rutgers moving to the big 10 to deliver the NYC market.

You'll keep needing to say it in order to get anyone to believe it.

[Buccaneer]

Got to back up my friends Marm and molson. Rutgers, in the 70s and 80s, wsa one of those teams that you didn't realize was playing in Division 1. Sort of like Temple. They had a nice 5 year stretch, so that's a legacy, along with playing the first game. But man, their fans have such an inferiority complex; defensive too.

[mauchow]

I'm pumped for the Badger/Husker game - I'm tempted to fork out a few hundo and get over to the game. My wife will be home with the baby and I can enjoy an atmosphere similar to the Ohio St game last year at Camp Randall. I still have yet to make it to a game there.

[Logan]

Got to back up my friends Marm and molson. Rutgers, in the 70s and 80s, wsa one of those teams that you didn't realize was playing in Division 1. Sort of like Temple. They had a nice 5 year stretch, so that's a legacy, along with playing the first game. But man, their fans have such an inferiority complex; defensive too.

So which is it...do we think we're better than we are, or do we have an inferiority complex? Breaking news...neither Rutgers or Syracuse is relevant on the national scene.

This is why I normally stay out of these threads. But for the hell of it, I'll ask again for Marmel to explain the Shady comment without citing historical records as the basis. Put up or shut up.

[Matthean]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again, the Syracuse/Rutgers rivalry is the most heated and emotional in the history of sports. It's really too bad it's going away, with Syracuse moving to the ACC and Rutgers moving to the big 10 to deliver the NYC market.

So heated it never gets mentioned when talking about the top rivalries.

[molson]

So heated it never gets mentioned when talking about the top rivalries.

I was joking. It was just funny to see Rutgers and Syracuse fans all fired up about a game.

Edit: (myself included)

[Buccaneer]

I was joking. It was just funny to see Rutgers and Syracuse fans all fired up about a game.

Lol. I think it came from that five year stretch where Rutgers fans were deservedly crowing about being world-beaters. Before that, however, no one had heard of them.

[Logan]

Ha...didn't think some people would miss that. And for the record, I wasn't being sarcastic with the "you shouldn't have edited that" comment. The Big Ten expansion thread will go down in FOFC history.

[General Mike]

Syracuse fans make it so easy to hate them. Never met a Syracuse fan who wasn't a douchebag.

[molson]

Ha...didn't think some people would miss that. And for the record, I wasn't being sarcastic with the "you shouldn't have edited that" comment. The Big Ten expansion thread will go down in FOFC history.

I had originally posted, "with Syracuse moving to the ACC and Rutgers moving to the big 10 to deliver the NYC market (per 2010 blog reports helpfully posted on FOFC)", but then cut the parenthesis part for being unnecessary, since it was clear I was joking. But yes, that would have made it more clear that I was mostly making fun of that thread, as I've done many times in that thread.

[molson]

Syracuse fans make it so easy to hate them. Never met a Syracuse fan who wasn't a douchebag.

We've reached stage 3 in the rivalry!

Though, I admit, most Rutgers fans I've met are pretty cool. Of course, if you think everyone in a group has characteristic X, you might want to look in the mirror and see how you treat them. Nice people don't usually get douchebag responses from people for no reason.

[Logan]

Craig Carton is the only d-bag Cuse fan I've met, for the record.

[Marmel]

Such typical trash from you. I didn't talk one ounce of smack. Just asked for a reference to his "shadyness". Which you have none. Carry on dickhead.

Please show me where you asked for a reference to his Shadyness. If you did ask, I honestly missed it. You said cite something, I assumed you meant to cite that Marrone is > than Shady.

For the record, he is not Shady in the way he runs a program. It is an affectionate nickname cause he looks like a greasy shady dude.

Finally, are personal insults like yours really allowed on this forum? :(

[Marmel]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again, the Syracuse/Rutgers rivalry is the most heated and emotional in the history of sports. It's really too bad it's going away, with Syracuse moving to the ACC and Rutgers moving to the big 10 to deliver the NYC market.

Nice!

[Logan]

Please show me where you asked for a reference to his Shadyness. If you did ask, I honestly missed it. You said cite something, I assumed you meant to cite that Marrone is > than Shady.

For the record, he is not Shady in the way he runs a program. It is an affectionate nickname cause he looks like a greasy shady dude.

Finally, are personal insults like yours really allowed on this forum? :(

You said Shady is "true". I immediately said to cite something. I'm not sure how that could be misconstrued. Thank you for answering.

[Marmel]

I meant Marrone > Shady is true, and I thought you were doubting that somehow. Good luck Saturday.

[JonInMiddleGA]

I just hope that Rutgers & Syracuse don't find the transition from 8 to 11 man football too rough.

edit: Syracuse probably should never had stopped playing the traditional game while Rutgers, well, if they wanted to be competitive in the B10 they probably should have made the switch a lot sooner.

[Buccaneer]

I just hope that Rutgers & Syracuse don't find the transition from 8 to 11 man football too rough.

edit: Syracuse probably should never had stopped playing the traditional game while Rutgers, well, if they wanted to be competitive in the B10 they probably should have made the switch a lot sooner.

Rutgers was playing football right after the Civil War, while the South wasn't doing too well. :)

[miked]

Lol. I think it came from that five year stretch where Rutgers fans were deservedly crowing about being world-beaters. Before that, however, no one had heard of them.

Don't forget our nappy headed hoes.

Seriously, I got nothing to add except that Syracuse sucks and they needed a botched call to beat Toledo. I got nothing. :p

[JonInMiddleGA]

Rutgers was playing football right after the Civil War, while the South wasn't doing too well. :)

Any yet somehow, despite the War of Northern Aggression, Southern football is actually relevant. Rutgers football on the other hand ... oh wait, that's right, they're the cornerstone of the Big East.

[molson]

Seriously, I got nothing to add except that Syracuse sucks and they needed a botched call to beat Toledo. I got nothing. :p

That extra point was so confusing. On the angle from the front, I clearly saw the ball pass in front of the upright (no good). On the angle from the side, I clearly saw the ball behind the upright (good). Live, it sure looked no good.

Whatever, 3 more wins to bowl eligibility!

[DeToxRox]

And Tennessee is on the clock

An assistant coach during Lane Kiffin’s tenure at the University of Tennessee wired $1,500 to a talent scout in July 2009, funding the airfare for an unofficial recruiting trip by then five-star prospect Lache Seastrunk and his mother, Yahoo! Sports has learned.
In an apparent NCAA violation, then-Volunteers secondary coach Willie Mack Garza sent the money to one-time scout Will Lyles, who had paid for plane tickets for Seastrunk and his mother Evelyn. Garza, who joined Kiffin’s staff at USC in 2010, stepped down from his position with the Trojans in September citing “some personal issues unrelated to USC that I need to address.” His resignation came shortly after Lyles informed NCAA investigators in August of the transaction. Lyles said NCAA investigators were conducting a wide-ranging look into Tennessee recruiting practices.





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Moneygram from Willie Garza to Will Lyles, who paid for plane tickets for Lache Seastrunk and his mother.

Houston-based Lyles was a talent scout and mentor to several area players, including Seastrunk ofTemple, Texas, in the central part of the state. Lyles said he told the NCAA he organized and paid for Seastrunk and his mother to travel to Knoxville June 20-21, 2009 for an unofficial visit. Lyles said he wasreimbursed via MoneyGram by Garza on July 5. Lyles said he provided the NCAA receipts for the plane tickets and a hand-written MoneyGram receipt.

Yahoo! Sports, with Lyles’ cooperation, requested and received an independent receipt of the transaction directly from MoneyGram International. Under transaction history request, the receipt lists “Willie Garza” as the “sender” and “Will Lyles” as the “receiver” of $1,500. An additional $76 processing fee was charged to Garza.
When reached by cell phone, Garza declined comment. USC sports information director Tim Tessalone declined to comment. The NCAA declined comment, citing its policy of not discussing potential cases.
“We are aware of the situation as is the conference office,” Tennessee associate athletic director for communications Jimmy Stanton said. “We’ve been verbally contacted by the NCAA enforcement staff regarding a recruiting issue in 2009 related to the former coaching staff and a student-athlete who never attended Tennessee.”
Evelyn Seastrunk acknowledged she and her son made the trip to Knoxville but declined comment on who paid for the plane tickets or where they stayed during the trip.
“I’m so sick and tired of this ‘Willie Lyles said this and Willie Lyles said that,’” Evelyn Seastrunk said. “I don’t care what Willie Lyles says. I don’t care as long as my son is OK.
“Whatever undercover dirty stuff that they’re doing, I’m pretty sure that Willie Lyles is not the only person. He’s just the only one that’s been caught. This is something that they’ve been doing forever.”
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Willie Mack Garza
While colleges are allowed to pay airfare for recruits during “official” visits, they are prohibited from doing so prior to the first day of a player’s senior academic year. Seastrunk, who had just completed his junior year at Temple (Texas) High School, was thus responsible for transportation costs for any “unofficial visit” as the June 2009 trip would be classified.
Seastrunk never took an official visit to Tennessee and signed with the University of Oregonin February 2010. After one season in Eugene he transferred to Baylor in August of 2011 where he is currently sitting out.
An NCAA finding of a major violation would be particularly troubling for Tennessee. The Volunteers athletic program was cited in August for “failure to monitor” when its men’s basketball program was placed on two years probation for a variety of major infractions under former coach Bruce Pearl.
The school could be deemed a “repeat offender,” which would call for additional and stiffer sanctions.
Lyles spoke with the NCAA on Aug. 30 in Los Angeles. Two days later Garza, who had followed Kiffin in 2010 to the University of Southern California, resigned abruptly from the Trojans’ staff.
Lyles told Yahoo! Sports what he explained the NCAA: that Garza set up Seastrunk’s June 2009 unofficial visit through him, that Lyles paid $1,446.80 for the initial airline tickets for Lache and his mother to fly from Waco, Texas to Knoxville, Tenn., and that Garza later wired the money to Lyles.
Lyles said he only agreed to speak to NCAA investigators if they guaranteed Seastrunk immunity from any penalties associated with this incident. Lyles said immunity was granted on the condition that both he and Seastrunk were completely honest and forthcoming (Lyles said Seastrunk has already spoken to the NCAA). He said the NCAA was already investigating Tennessee’s recruiting practices.
“I wanted to make sure Lache would be fine, this isn’t about him,” said Lyles, who maintains a close relationship with the player. “It’s the NCAA’s rules and the schools not following them. During our meeting it became clear the NCAA already had knowledge of what was going on at Tennessee.”
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Will Lyles
Lyles, now 32, was employed at the time by Elite Scouting Services, based in Florida. Lyles had fashioned a career as both a scout who could inform college coaches about talent while also serving as a mentor and personal trainer to Texas high school players. He developed close relationships with a number of Lone Star State players, including Seastrunk and Oregon All-America running back LaMichael James, a native of Texarkana.
In January of 2009, he started his own company, Complete Scouting Service. He made headlines earlier this year when it was revealed he’d received a $25,000 payment from the University of Oregon for his national recruiting package. The NCAA is currently investigating both Oregon and LSU, another Lyles’ client, for their ties to the scout.
Lyles said he had never met Garza until the spring of 2009 when the recruiter called about Seastrunk, then one of the most coveted running backs in the country.
“[Garza called] and he says ‘Hey, how are you doing. I’m Coach Garza. I recruit the state of Texas for Tennessee. We need to talk about Lache Seastrunk getting here on an unofficial visit,’” Lyles said. “And I said ‘OK.’ I told them that I would let Evelyn [Seastrunk] know. When I told her about it, she said ‘That’s cool.’”
Lyles said he worked with the Seastrunks and Garza to find an agreeable date. He bought the tickets through Expedia, charging $1,446.80 to his Visa debit card. He said the price was high because it was a last-minute fare, due to uncertainty over the travel availability of the Seastrunks. The tickets were purchased June 19 for a June 20 departure.
After the visit, Lyles said Garza called to discuss reimbursement.
“Coach Garza said, ‘How do you want me to give the money to you,’” Lyles said. “I said, ‘You can send it Western Union or MoneyGram.’ … I had already come out of my pocket for over $1,400 for plane tickets.”
On July 5, his money came in. The MoneyGram was sent from a location in Lancaster, Texas, a Dallas suburb. Lyles said he didn’t know why it came from Lancaster. Garza is a native Texan who played at the University of Texas from 1988-92 and as a coach has actively recruited the state for years.
Lyles acknowledged he kept the remaining $53.20.
Lyles said Tennessee reimbursing a third party for the cost of an unofficial recruiting visit is clearly against NCAA rules. But the scout said the practice isn’t uncommon in college football. Lyles said coaches often seek someone with the financial means to pay the initial cost of the trip. He declined to cite other schools that engaged in the practice or detail any of his other testimony to NCAA investigators.
Contact Yahoo! Sports investigative reporter Charles Robinson at [email protected]

[molson]

This does not bode well for Boise St. (old joke).

[Chief Rum]

Any yet somehow, despite the War of Northern Aggression, Southern football is actually relevant. Rutgers football on the other hand ... oh wait, that's right, they're the cornerstone of the Big East.

Isn't it just sad that somehow the South still managed to lose the war to those twits?

[JonInMiddleGA]

Isn't it just sad that somehow the South still managed to lose the war to those twits?

Tragic, but better coaching can't always overcome superior depth.

[Marmel]

There is something to be said about running a clean program and graduating players, not that southern football knows much about that. Its no wonder the SEC dominates...it is one big cesspool. Syracuse was a national player, has a rich history and will return to BCS bowls doing it all the right way.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Syracuse was a national player, has a rich history

Which I alluded to.

[Chief Rum]

Tragic, but better coaching can't always overcome superior depth.

Deep pockets, too. Hard to beat that. Along with 50 million morons from Europe.

[Ksyrup]

Tennessee will not be the last school caught up in the Lyles thing, according to some reporters on twitter.

[CU Tiger]

Syracuse was a national player, has a rich history and will return to BCS bowls doing it all the right way.

And for their victory parade leprechauns will dance in the street and unicorns will shit rainbows.

2 things there that will never happen again: Syracuse consistently returning to national prominence and Any team winning a national title without at least a small slap on the wrist within 5-10 years.

I'm just hoping that Clemson actually you know, wins something before we get slapped, unlike Miami, UNC and up next SC.

[Easy Mac]

Tragic, but better coaching can't always overcome superior depth.

The difference is, the "athletes" now play for the south.

[Ksyrup]

Greg Reid had all charges dropped, 2 days after being arrested. Sounds like the initial comments out of Tallahassee about this being a load of BS were true. Apparently the perjury charge was for naming the guy he knew as 'Trel as Montrel, when his real name was Rontrel. Seriously.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Sorry if this was already posted here, I hadn't seen it or even heard about it until last night. Aside from the obvious sympathy that goes with anyone who loses a child, the thing that struck me about this story was the reminder that the phrase "personal issues" or whatever really can mean just about anything & that it's not always a euphemism for substance abuse/legal trouble/etc.

Georgia's Bacarri Rambo plays on with a heavy heart *| ajc.com (http://www.ajc.com/sports/uga/georgias-bacarri-rambo-plays-1190178.html)

[Ksyrup]

Not exactly sure where this goes:

slmandel (http://twitter.com/#!/slmandel) Stewart Mandel
USA Today: NCAA committee likely to recommend up to $2,000 scholarship increase, multi-year scholarships

[Logan]

Did no one watch USF-Pitt last night? Tight into the 3rd quarter (believe it was 14-13 USF at one point in the 2nd) and ended 44-17 Pitt. All I have to say about USF is "new coach, same team".

[Ksyrup]

BJ Daniels is massively overrated.

I watched more of the Houston/UTEP game than that one. UTEP should have at least tied that game. No defenses, and 2 teams clearly not playing top-level football (I know Houston's likely to be undefeated, but sheesh that defense!), but it was an entertaining game.

And oh yeah, no Craig James.

[General Mike]

Did no one watch USF-Pitt last night? Tight into the 3rd quarter (believe it was 14-13 USF at one point in the 2nd) and ended 44-17 Pitt. All I have to say about USF is "new coach, same team".

Agree. Heck, while Skip Holtz did a good job at ECU, its not like he was ever banging on the door for BCS bids.

[gstelmack]

Did no one watch USF-Pitt last night? Tight into the 3rd quarter (believe it was 14-13 USF at one point in the 2nd) and ended 44-17 Pitt. All I have to say about USF is "new coach, same team".

Yup, sigh.

[Ksyrup]

So, uh, yeah...UK's receivers coach is Tee Martin, the former Tennessee QB.

As bad as the team has been across the board, the receivers have been horrid. There's like one kid who's even remotely able to play at the major college level, and I think he may be a freshman. The few times Morgan Newton makes a decent throw, the chances are better that a receiver will drop the pass than catch it. I've honestly never seen a worse corp of receivers on a major college team.

Anyway, after last week's debacle against UF, a local reporter asked Tee what's up with all the dropped passes. His response:

"I don’t know. [shrugs] I never played the position."

Ladies and gentlemen, THIS is Joker Phillips' staff!

[Ksyrup]

How do you really feel, Coach?


Clark: Is it tough for you to watch? Have you sat down and watched any Maryland games or is it tough for you to do that? I know you love the kids, but I also know you’re a Maryland alum, and it’s got to be a little painful.

Friedgen: Well, it’s not painful because I watch it for the kids. I could care less about Maryland. I’ve burned my diploma. I’m flying a Georgia Tech flag right now.

Clark: [laughing] That’s hurtful. I don’t want to hear that, Coach. I’m a Maryland alum.

Friedgen: Well, they talk about Maryland pride. They didn’t show me a whole lot of Maryland pride, either getting the job or getting fired.

[bronconick]

That whole thing was hilarious because they were all about "the football program has stagnated, and people are losing interest in buying tickets/etc."

So they hire Edsall.

o.O

[BYU 14]

Holy shit, I hate to get excited about a comeback win over Utah State, but BYU pulled it out after being down by 11 in the 4th!! 96 yards in 2 minutes with our backup (now starter) QB. :D

Our all-world 5 star QB was crap and a weak armed kid with HEART got it done.

[MacroGuru]

Holy shit, I hate to get excited about a comeback win over Utah State, but BYU pulled it out after being down by 11 in the 4th!! 96 yards in 2 minutes with our backup (now starter) QB. :D

Our all-world 5 star QB was crap and a weak armed kid with HEART got it done.

Yeah...I have kept my kids up by yelling and screaming at the last 3 minutes of the game....I am a little hoarse...It was a great comeback, and I told you, I was confident we would score.

[BYU 14]

Yeah...I have kept my kids up by yelling and screaming at the last 3 minutes of the game....I am a little hoarse...It was a great comeback, and I told you, I was confident we would score.

I thought you were crazy when you sent that text, LOL. But you were right, the team just plays harder for Riley. Feel bad for Heaps, but he needs to mature a lot.

[MacroGuru]

Everybody comes back on Utah State this year. Even Colorado State scored a TD and 2pt conversion to tie them with :42 left in the game last week.

Yeah, our luck hasn't been that way this season. I thought the game was going down hill when they busted off a 80 yd TD run with the first play of the game.

[mauchow]

Wisconsin's only decent pass rusher, DE Gilbert is out 6-8 weeks. This will hurt but we still will have some depth to hopefully step it up in his absence. Gilbert wasn't a JJ Watt or anything but he seemed to be coming into his own little by little.

Ah, well.

Now we'll most likely see Borland coming off the edge a little bit more than usual, where he will certainly excel much as he did as a freshman.

[miked]

My wife is so sure that Syracuse is going to beat RU that she offered me lovin if RU wins.

[cartman]

No way that the play A&M scored on was a designed play. If it was, that was the strangest statue of liberty play I'd ever seen.

[Chubby]

SU fumbles on 1st offensive play, the Rutgirls RB gets WRECKED for a scoop and score by SU D!

[MJ4H]

Well this is disappointing. Maybe we could have a few more injuries, too, thanks.

[MJ4H]

Our offensive line is terrible and our defensive line is completely gone to injuries. This is going to be a fun year.

[Matthean]

Minnesota is completely lifeless right now. I'm amazed this is a team that had a chance to beat USC. Robinson is 8-8 for 93 yards. Michigan is running plays with Robinson and Gardner. Michigan is up 14-0 and inside the 20 again.

[Matthean]

21-0 on a pass from Smith. So, we have QBs as RBs and RBs as QBs. Total yards is 240-4 just into the second quarter.

[cartman]

Kansas is just manhandling Texas Tech. It is 20-0 with 4 minutes left in the 1st quarter.

[Matthean]

Twitter (http://twitter.com/#!/UMGoBlog/status/120177476784758784)

minnesota switching up the play at the line of scrimmage -> re-arranging deck chairs on the Titanic.

[MJ4H]

Defense playing horribly, Arkansas down 21-7 to Texas A&M in the second quarter. Shown a couple of signs of waking up, but apparently it takes more than the bullhorn in their ear to get there.

[Matthean]

9:38 in the second quarter. Michigan has 304 yards total offense. Robinson is 10-10 for 129 yards. 28-0. The bad news for Minnesota is Michigan just using it's running game to run the clock is actually playing to it's strength.

[bronconick]

If Denard Robinson is perfect throwing the ball against your team, you should probably just fold the program.

[cartman]

That is amazing. It is now 21-20 Texas Tech.

[hoopsguy]

Been watching the Illini on their homecoming day (5th game, they haven't played a road game yet, so I'm not sure I understand what homecoming means) fall behind Northwestern 28-10. They have hit a couple quick TDs, shut down the Mildcats, and are down 28-23 early in the 4th when forcing a 3 and out. Then Northwestern ends up with a 65 yard punt, because the return guy can't find a way to get under it for a fair catch.

Stuff like that isn't very apparent in a boxscore, but it is a killer. Now looking at 95 yards to get a go-ahead score. Ugh, ugh, ugh.

[miked]

This RU team is infuriating to watch. Not that we deserve to win, but just got hosed on a fumble call. The QB was in the grasp, tried to throw the ball away and threw it off his own foot. The amazing thing is, it was confirmed by video review when he clearly threw the ball. Shrug, this game is painful.

[hoopsguy]

And the Illini do go 95 yards, then stop Northwestern on 4th down on the following drive. 31-28 lead, about 3 1/2 to go.

Illini knocked out Persa, who had 4 TDs, on the last drive. So Northwestern had their backup - who doesn't throw so well, from what I've seen - in for the last series.

[hoopsguy]

Ugh, senior RB fumbles on first play, Northwestern gets ball back on Illini 40.

Illini fans have been sour on him all year. Add flames to that fire. I want to puke.

[MJ4H]

Texas A&M holding on 35-27 early 4th quarter.

[hoopsguy]

TD Northwestern, without a single pass, and up 35-31 with 1:14 to go.

I guess I'm grateful that they got in this fast so Illinois could try to get the win back. But with Northwestern missing their starting QB and starting RB, was it too much to ask to hold them to a field goal in this spot?

[tarcone]

LSU is manhandling Kentucky.
NW couldnt be stopped on that go ahead TD drive. But the Cheatin' Illini are trying to make it interesting.

[MJ4H]

35 all in Dallas.

[tucker rocky]

35 all in Dallas.

Another week, another blown lead for Texas A&M.
:popcorn:

[tarcone]

2nd and goal at the 2 with 25 seconds left for the Cheatin' Illini. TO Illinois.

[M GO BLUE!!!]

I really thought this would be a much tighter game. Wow...

[hoopsguy]

Illini punch it in, up 38-35 with 13 seconds to play.

Knowing the Illini, they will kick this out of bounds.

[M GO BLUE!!!]

Now for Sparty to kick a bit of arse... :)

[MJ4H]

In the middle of the drive where Arkansas just took the lead, Dish Network cut out to a "This game is blacked out in your area" dialog. The game is on plain old ESPN.

What.
the.
Fuck??

[Ksyrup]

Is Arkansas channeling Al Davis or what? I haven't seen this many personal fouls since early 2000s FSU games.

[tucker rocky]

In the middle of the drive where Arkansas just took the lead, Dish Network cut out to a "This game is blacked out in your area" dialog. The game is on plain old ESPN.

What.
the.
Fuck??

College Football Live on ESPN News, with a live look in.

Same happened to me on DTV.

[MJ4H]

Injuries have forced a ton of youngsters in the game is my best guess for the cause. They are being called almost exclusively on young ones. It is really annoying.

[MJ4H]

booya

[Ksyrup]

Arkansas stopped a 4th and 2 and that's pretty much it.

[tucker rocky]

It's over in Arlington, Arkansas holds TexasA&M

[General Mike]

Rutgers has tied the game.

[MJ4H]

First down. Ball game. My God. How about let's avoid that kind of start in the future.

[Ksyrup]

A&M should schedule Utah State for next weekend.

[Ksyrup]

Winner of A&M/Utah State gets the Vikings.

[General Mike]

Overtime in Syracuse.

San San Te blows.

[Scarecrow]

I haven't seen Andrew Luck play, but RGIII is amazing.

That being said, if Bill Snyder keeps up the 'run for 4 yards' every play, then K-State might win this game.

[bhlloy]

Robert Woods is incredible. Just so much fun to watch

[tarcone]

Now for Sparty to kick a bit of arse... :)

I know Michigan fans hate OSU. But Sparty is in our division. So, shouldnt you root for OSU. :D

[Scarecrow]

dola...


JINX!!!!!!

[tarcone]

What to watch on ESPN3. I love the triple option and GT is on. But I want to see that Baylor QB. He is fun to watch. Split screen I guess.

[MJ4H]

Stephen Garcia is drunk-throwing playing QB for South Carolina on CBS. That might be worth watching.

[General Mike]

To all the Syracuse fans, I've got 2 words for ya

Suck It!!!!!!!!!!!!

[cuervo72]

To all the Syracuse fans, I've got 2 words for ya

Suck It!!!!!!!!!!!!

Same words miked has for his wife.

[Ksyrup]

GT is fun to watch. And not see on FSU's schedule.

[Ksyrup]

I know it won't last, but Miami is getting beat up by Bethune Cookman in front of like 15K fans. Only down 7-0, but outgained at one point 116-35 and stuffed on a 4th and short. Delicious.

[miked]

Same words miked has for his wife.

I don't know which one I'm happier about! This game was brutal to watch, but the rewards will be sweet. Nookie for me and a loss for an overrated SU team :p

[Logan]

One of the worst games I've ever had the pleasure of watching. The ref who threw the flag on Beauharnais calling it a "live ball unnecessary roughness penalty", which erased a blocked FG return for a TD, should be fired. The Syracuse player threw a shoulder INTO HIM 20 yards behind the play.

Neither team deserved to win. Gross.

[fpres]

SMU is looking good early against TCU, up 17-0. It's beginning to look like benching Padron in the season opener = best decision ever.

[Atocep]

Bowling Green's gameplan against WVU appears to be have a defensive player cramp in 45 degree weather every 4-5 plays.

[Atocep]

Maryland 7-3 over Towson at the half. The only reason Maryland is ahead is the 4 drops by Towson WRs, 2 of which were likely TDs. Randy Edsall is a significant step down from Ralph Friedgen.

I'm sure they're playing nice, fundamental football.

[Galaril]

Wow Air Force beats Navy 35-34 in OT thanks to a missed XP in OT that was set back 15 yards thanks to Navy's QB taunting AF after scoring the TD. Thanks Navy;)

[Atocep]

It's Bowling Green, but WVU may have finally found a RB. 2-star true freshman Dustin Garrison has rushed for 233 in the first half.

[cuervo72]

Maryland 7-3 over Towson at the half. The only reason Maryland is ahead is the 4 drops by Towson WRs, 2 of which were likely TDs. Randy Edsall is a significant step down from Ralph Friedgen.

No no, this is all Ralph's fault for bringing in crappy players and for fostering an atmosphere of no discipline.

:rolleyes:

[Matthean]

OSU's offense is just sad.

[Matthean]

To clarify, the 8th grade game I watched today had better offensive execution than what OSU is doing right now. OSU has 98 total yards and it's in the 4th quarter.

[Logan]

Syracuse, after the arrogant/indignant way they dismissed having the refs hand them a game last week, can shove hot pokers up their own asses before they dare complain about any officiating decision.

Probably didn't phrase it correctly. The call went against Rutgers (on a Rutgers TD) despite the Syracuse player initiating the contact. Nevermind the fact that it was 20 yards behind the play as the Rutgers player was 5 yards from the endzone in a convoy.

[MrBug708]

LMJ and Andrew Luck might win all of the accolades in the PAC-12, but Robert Woods might be one of the best WR's in recent memory

[Logan]

A late RGIII interception leads to a come from behind upset by Kansas State.

[Lathum]

Utah fumbles the opening kick and UW returns it for a TD!! Go Dawgs!!!

[fpres]

SMU beats TCU 40-33 in OT. Huge win for the Mustangs who improve to 4-1.

[bronconick]

Western knocks off UConn 38-31, Alex Carder throws for 471 yards and 5 tds.

[Suicane75]

It does? The guy running the clock can stop it without hearing a whistle? I'm honestly asking.

[Suicane75]

Meh, he would have had to spike it, which would would have eaten up any time anyway.

[mauchow]

Not good. Great return by Abby only to fumble it. Turnovers are key in big games like this. Cannot afford them especially in your territory. Hold 'em badgers D

[mauchow]

them's the way the bounces go. Huskers have fumbled twice and recovered both of them. Wisconsin once and lost it. Bend don't break here D. Field goal would be nice.

[mauchow]

If Martinez can complete those bombs like that tonight the Badgers will have to outscore them tonight.. One of the weakest arms in CFB and you have a WR that wide open with the ball in the air that long.

[mauchow]

VT continues their over-ratedness for the past few seasons.

[mauchow]

I remember when Wisconsin's special teams used to be top-notch. Now for the past few seasons it's been very average to sub-par. A fumble on a punt return and a blocked extra point. *sigh*

[mauchow]

Time to jam it down their throats Bucky.


or a three and out. lol

[Eaglesfan27]

I was on call, working today so this is late...

Wow. Robert Woods is really good.

[mauchow]

Another Martinez interception. Badgers getting another six before halftime would be ginormous. I'll take three though.... let's go, 1:18 left, let's go Heisman hopeful.

[tarcone]

Wisky is turning it up a notch. And Russell Wilson scares me.

[Toddzilla]

VT continues their over-ratedness for the past few seasons.wow they got exposed tonight.

i think i'd rather see frank beamer leave and take brian stinespting with him than keep this up for another 3-4 years.

[JPhillips]

Yeah, Russell Wilson is a badass.

[mauchow]

BOOOOM, NICK TOON!

Toon is climbing the draft charts quickly, I imagine. He's off to a great start this year.

[tarcone]

Welcome to the B1G, Cornshuckers.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Looks like Florida woke Bama up

[mauchow]

This could get out of hand quickly if they continue to rely on Martinez's arm. Pick number three.

C'mon Badgers, touchdown is a must here. Step on their throats.

[tarcone]

Cant stop 3 yards and a cloud of dust.

[mauchow]

Hell yeah, RW.

I'd love to win 55-14.

[mauchow]

It's amazing how different this season would be for the Badgers without Russell Wilson. We would have had Bdumyer, a sophomore be the leader for the starting job, who would go onto get hurt leaving a freshman at the helm.

Thank you NC St. Thank you.

[mauchow]

Another reason losing Jacoby Brissett hurts so much. Hopefully Bart Houston will be the real deal.

[tarcone]

Wisky has an easier road to the Title game then any other team this season in the B1G. I see an undefeated season ahead.

[tarcone]

Good to see Iowa guys doing so well in Mad Town.

[Tigercat]

Up until this week, I thought LSU was more complete than Alabama, as of this week I give Bama that edge. If LSU can beat Florida next week, LSU Bama is going to be epic.

[tarcone]

I would say Wisky is one of the top 2 teams in the nation, if not the best team. They are a complete team. Wilson gives them the type of QB that can play with the SEC teams. A dual threat QB. Plus Wisky has a great O Line. Man, they are going to roll through the B1G this season. I would be shocked if someone beats them.

[Tigercat]

When you have LSU, Bama, and Oklahoma just as complete, and with 2x the depth of talent, I don't see how anyone could give Wisconsin the benefit of the doubt.

That's not to say that Wisconsin couldn't beat those teams, or that they might not outlast those teams to be the top at the end of the year. But OU, LSU, and Bama have played good teams as well and they have a clear overall talent advantage.

[mauchow]

An undefeated Wisconsin team still gets MNC over a 1 loss SEC team though,

[Tigercat]

Probably so.

[tarcone]

Im not sure they do have a clear overall talent advantage. Wisky will roll out O Linemen all day long. They have several very good RBs. Their WRs are big and good. If Wilson goes down, it would hurt them, but with that line, Wisky goes back to smashmouth and still rolls over teams.
Defensively, that may be another story. But they have shut down a good offensive team tonight. They may not be as deep on that side of the ball
But offensively, they can match up and surpass anyone.

[mauchow]

i love jj watt...

JJ Watt
Russell Wilson is the real deal. Welcome to the Big Ten, Nebraska. We are the Real Big Red.

[Bigsmooth]

I was on call, working today so this is late...

Wow. Robert Woods is really good.

Barkley putting together a pretty great season. Looking like a decent consolation prize for whoever loses the Luck sweepstakes. Although I wouldn't be at all surprised if Luck stayed in school.

[mauchow]

When you have LSU, Bama, and Oklahoma just as complete, and with 2x the depth of talent, I don't see how anyone could give Wisconsin the benefit of the doubt.

That's not to say that Wisconsin couldn't beat those teams, or that they might not outlast those teams to be the top at the end of the year. But OU, LSU, and Bama have played good teams as well and they have a clear overall talent advantage.
Last years Badgers seniors/early entries class has the most players on a current NFL roster than any CFB team with 11 or 12 I can't remember.

[Vegas Vic]

Welcome to the Big Ten, Nebraska. Now it's time to come down from the clouds and familiarize yourself with the Insight Bowl.

[Tigercat]

Last years Badgers seniors/early entries class has the most players on a current NFL roster than any CFB team with 11 or 12 I can't remember.

Quick check on ESPN, total players active this year in the NFL: Wiscy has 18 total, Bama and Oklahoma are lower than I thought they would be at 24. LSU has 39(!). I will admit, Badgers are more competitive there then I would have guessed, but I thought Bama and Oklahoma numbers would have been closer to LSU's....

[mauchow]

Quick check on ESPN, total players active this year in the NFL: Wiscy has 18 total, Bama and Oklahoma are lower than I thought they would be at 24. LSU has 39(!). I will admit, Badgers are more competitive there then I would have guessed, but I thought Bama and Oklahoma numbers would have been closer to LSU's....

Right, I'm talking NFL Rookies, the Badgers have the most currently with 11 or 12. That number is a more accurate depiction to the notion if the Badgers are as talented as the SEC teams mentioned. The initial talent levels (recruiting rankings) of LSU, Bama, Oklahoma but the Badgers get 3/4 star players who turn into special players.

Edit: I'll also add that I'm surprised at the number of Bama/OU players compared to LSU.

[M GO BLUE!!!]

I know Michigan fans hate OSU. But Sparty is in our division. So, shouldnt you root for OSU. :D

I can't figure out the damn divisions & who is in them. Don't even know offhand which one Michigan is in. Don't care either. :D

As for Sparty... nothing against them, save for one game a year that Michigan should always win. Always.

[mauchow]

Games I'm looking ahead to next week:

Florida @ LSU

OU @ Texas - One of the few games OU has a slight chance of losing.

Ohio St @ Nebraska - Who bounces back with a win?

Michigan @ Northwestern

Auburn @ Arkansas

Boise @ Fresno?

A pretty "Meh" week overall. Some good matchups just not very many big ones.

[tarcone]

Iowa travels to PsU. Always a good time.
Iowa is going no huddle 100% of the time and blitzing 50% of the time according to reports. This is a huge change of philosophy.

[Matthean]

This won't be a good year for a team trying to get into the title game with a loss. Oklahoma, 'Bama/LSU, Wisconsin, Boise, Clemson have legit chances of going undefeated.

[Matthean]

Games I'm looking ahead to next week:

Florida @ LSU

Ohio St @ Nebraska - Who bounces back with a win?

A pretty "Meh" week overall. Some good matchups just not very many big ones.

LSU is an easy pick and all the more so depending on the QB situation. Straight up pick I would say Nebraska. It's one thing when a team does bad and the announcers shift the praise to the other team. It's another when they just flat out admit how god awful something is. Trust me, I was serious about the comment in regards to OSU's offense and seeing a better run offense by eighth graders.

[bronconick]

Do Florida and Ohio State play at the same time? If so, comparing their offenses to each other (assuming Brantley is done) might be the most competitive thing you get out of either game.

[miked]

RU home against PIT. We are not very good, but would love to see us knock out both overrated ACC jumpers.

[Swaggs]

This won't be a good year for a team trying to get into the title game with a loss. Oklahoma, 'Bama/LSU, Wisconsin, Boise, Clemson have legit chances of going undefeated.

I'd throw Stanford in there, too. They have been consistently beating the crap out of teams this season and have Oregon and Notre Dame at home (and USC on the road).

[tarcone]

Think the cry for a playoff would be louder this season if there were 6 undefeated teams? I imagine it would be.

[hoopsguy]

Think the cry for a playoff would be louder this season if there were 6 undefeated teams? I imagine it would be.

I would settle for 3 from BCS conferences. I think that has only happened one time, when Auburn was coming off probation if memory serves me correctly (Jason Campbell team).

If you left out Oklahoma, Stanford (with Luck), or this Wisconsin team for one of the others against LSU/'Bama winner, I think that one massive hissy fit would emerge. Probably not enough to change anything in the near term, but might as well keep building more compelling reasons to dismantle the current inane system.

[General Mike]

RU home against PIT. We are not very good, but would love to see us knock out both overrated ACC jumpers.

They're beatable. We can't turnover the ball 4 times and miss 3 FGs again, but I don't think we will. :popcorn:

[Matthean]

I'd throw Stanford in there, too. They have been consistently beating the crap out of teams this season and have Oregon and Notre Dame at home (and USC on the road).

Oregon has a good enough chance to win the game I didn't want to just put Stanford in there as well.

I'll slightly call Illinois as being this year's team who gets into a bowl game they shouldn't be in. Their schedule is as bad as Wisconsin's in terms of lack of quality games. They have a decent chance of being 9-0 before playing Michigan and Wisconsin. If they go 11-1/10-2, they could be a team matched up against somebody like the #3 team from the SEC. I'm guessing a Illinois vs. Arkansas type game wouldn't go to well for them.

[mauchow]

Oregon has a good enough chance to win the game I didn't want to just put Stanford in there as well.

I'll slightly call Illinois as being this year's team who gets into a bowl game they shouldn't be in. Their schedule is as bad as Wisconsin's in terms of lack of quality games. They have a decent chance of being 9-0 before playing Michigan and Wisconsin. If they go 11-1/10-2, they could be a team matched up against somebody like the #3 team from the SEC. I'm guessing a Illinois vs. Arkansas type game wouldn't go to well for them.

that would be ugly...

[Suicane75]

Big 10 Network has some wonderful commercials. Catheter adds and girls rapping about online college or some shit.

[dawgfan]

The 2 best teams USC has played are Utah and AZ State. Against those 2 teams Barkley has 2 TD and 3 INT. He's got a top 5 LT protecting his blindside. He's a product of running up the score against vastly inferior opponents. He's, at best, a distant 3rd to Luck and Landry Jones.
Yeah, there's a pretty big gap between Luck & Barkley IMO. I've watched a fair amount of both as a big Pac-10/12 fan, and Barkley comes up well short of Luck. Not as much arm strength, far less mobility, not as accurate, makes a lot more mistakes, doesn't seem to have nearly the same ability to read defenses.

I'd actually take Nick Foles over Barkley.

[bhlloy]

Yeah, there's a pretty big gap between Luck & Barkley IMO. I've watched a fair amount of both as a big Pac-10/12 fan, and Barkley comes up well short of Luck. Not as much arm strength, far less mobility, not as accurate, makes a lot more mistakes, doesn't seem to have nearly the same ability to read defenses.


I can't disagree with any of that except maybe the bit about arm strength. Barkley will throw 30+ INT's in the NFL right now with his decision making process and his willingness to force the ball and trust his arm. A very good respected NFL QB coach/offensive mind could turn him around but he's had the same problem at every level he's played at. Million dollar arm and two cent decision making.

[dawgfan]

I'd put Barkley just slightly ahead of a group of Foles, Tannehill, Weeden, Griffin III, and maybe Kirk Cousins. Barkley does have the disadvantage of playing for maybe the worst gameday coach in FBS.
I can't say I've seen very much of the rest of those guys. But having watched quite a bit of both Foles and Barkley, I'd take Foles.

[DeToxRox]

Barkley needs to mature before he gets to the NFL. Sadly, I don't see that happening under Lane.

Speaking of Lane, how awkward will it be when he has to fire pops? Or is it assumed he will just fall on the sword before he does that?

[Ksyrup]

Something's going on at Ohio State (again). Supposedly a press conference later with the AD to provide follow-up on the tattoo boys, and now some rumors leakingthat Herron and Posey may still not be cleared to play even after the 5-game suspension is done.

[gstelmack]

Clemson, Michigan among five most surprising undefeateds - Stewart Mandel - SI.com (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/stewart_mandel/10/02/surprise-undefeated-teams/3.html)

So wait, Hawaii got to receive BOTH the opening and the second half kickoff, not to mention the refs took 22 minutes to determine if they got a 5th down? They must really be playing in obscurity for that not to be talked about much.

[Ksyrup]

I saw that yesterday, Wow.

On the kickoff issue, the ONLY explanation can be that the refs believed LATech won the toss and chose to kick to start off the game, right? Because then hawaii gets choice to start the 2nd half, which would result in LATech kicking off both times. It's certainly possible a kid accidentally told the ref they want to kick instead of deferring to the 2nd half.

Otherwise, if this was just a simple error by the refs, then if I'm LATech's coach, I literally lay down in the middle of the field until they get it right. Or I just tell my kicker not to kick-off and let them 5 yard penalty me back to the goal line and then see what they do about it.

[bronconick]

Did LA Tech win the toss and choose to "Kickoff" instead of "defer their choice to the 2nd half"?

[Ksyrup]

Yeah, I got it backwards. That's what I meant. If LATech won the toss and made a choice to kick, then Hawaii would choose to receive the 2nd half kick. But it sounds like that was not what was communicated and the ref got it wrong (queue Jerome Bettis in OT), judging by the number of people still talking about it.

[Ksyrup]

If all Brantley has is a high ankle sprain, then he got lucky. I mean, it's bad having to go into LSU with a true freshman at QB, but I was sure his season was over when I saw that.

[bronconick]

If all Brantley has is a high ankle sprain, then he got lucky. I mean, it's bad having to go into LSU with a true freshman at QB, but I was sure his season was over when I saw that.

Wasn't sure what I wanted there. Driskel seems the sort who sucks until he sees a Seminole defense and then throws for 200 and runs for 120 in a 31-27 come from behind win.

[Ksyrup]

I'd definitely rather face the freshman - although by then, he'd have 5 or 6 games under his belt.

[Ksyrup]

<S>@</S>brdispatch (http://twitter.com/#!/brdispatch): Gene Smith announces additional allegations, an employment violation involving 3 players - Posey, Marcus Hall & Boom Herron.

[Ksyrup]

Coach Will Muschamp said Monday that Brantley has a lower leg injury that won't require surgery, but it will keep the senior sidelined at least a week. Muschamp said he will update Brantley's status every Monday, an indication it might not be a short-team setback.*