All My Rowdy Friends, Cut from MNF

[A-Husker-4-Life]

ESPN pulls intro after Williams' Obama comments - NFL - Yahoo! Sports (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AhuXDyxXw3pJOtAhArEaWXU5nYcB?slug=ap-mondaynightfootball-hankwilliams)

No F'ing way...

This is one of the best intros ever..

[stevew]

I wish whomever made this call would stop acting like Goebbles.

[JediKooter]

Hank Williams Jr Godwin'd himself out of that job.

[Toddzilla]

ESPN pulls intro after Williams' Obama comments - NFL - Yahoo! Sports (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AhuXDyxXw3pJOtAhArEaWXU5nYcB?slug=ap-mondaynightfootball-hankwilliams)

No F'ing way...

This is one of the best intro's ever..
We need a Grammar N....evermind

[A-Husker-4-Life]

We need a Grammar N....evermind

Fixed for your pleasure..

[Schmidty]

What an idiot that guy is.

[Schmidty]

What an idiot that guy is.

Ok Yoda.

[GreenMonster]

What a joke..

[Pumpy Tudors]

wait what do you mean i cant
a) be promoted by a company that has millions of consumers and
b) say something publicly that a large number of those consumers will consider inflammatory and
c) keep getting promoted by that company

i dont understand how does this all work help

[Ksyrup]

I was supposed to open for Kathy Griffin, but SOMEONE directed her to my posts on this forum.

[Pumpy Tudors]

I was supposed to open for Kathy Griffin, but SOMEONE directed her to my posts on this forum.
lol ksyrup has to go sit with hank williams jr in the "i screwed up" corner

[Ksyrup]

I consider it an upgrade in the booty department.

[Pumpy Tudors]

WHY DO YOU HURT ME

[JediKooter]

Pumpy should do the song for MNF.

[CU Tiger]

meh....so if I agree with his point, and like his musical intro (hypothetically) I am supposed to what?
Boycott MNF?
No fawking way.

[Crapshoot]

I think if you agree with his point suggesting that Obama is analagous to Hitler, you have larger issues...

[MacroGuru]

meh....so if I agree with his point, and like his musical intro (hypothetically) I am supposed to what?
Boycott MNF?
No fawking way.

I basically did that when it went to ESPN.....

[JPhillips]

He replied "true" when the Fox hosts said he compared Obama to Hitler. His apology today seems weaselly IMO.

He has a right to say whatever he wants, but I completely understand why ESPN wouldn't want to deal with the fallout.

[TCY Junkie]

He replied "true" when the Fox hosts said he compared Obama to Hitler. His apology today seems weaselly IMO.

He has a right to say whatever he wants, but I completely understand why ESPN wouldn't want to deal with the fallout.

I didn't think that was an apology, just explaining for people who like to assume things.

[CU Tiger]

I think if you agree with his point suggesting that Obama is analagous to Hitler, you have larger issues...

I think if you think that was his point, then you are the one with larger issues.

Besides Germany prospered under hitler regime, no?

[Mustang]

I hope people pissing and moaning about this piss and moan when people compare other politicians to Hitler that are Republican.

If you don't, go fuck yourself.

Absolutely ridiculous to compare ANYONE to Hitler.

[Tigercat]

There are lots of enemy negotiating with enemy examples that he could have used. Do you really think that he just so happen to compare the guy he hates with the person most Americans see as history's great evil? That it was a coincidence? Maybe it was, but rational thought suggests otherwise.

Common sense says he wanted to compare Obama to something unfavorable, so he picked something unfavorable. You exaggerate and compare the US president to a genocidal maniac, you lose a job representing a US company. Very simple, and very understandable.

[Tigercat]

I hope people pissing and moaning about this piss and moan when people compare other politicians to Hitler that are Republican.

If you don't, go fuck yourself.

Absolutely ridiculous to compare ANYONE to Hitler.

There were some freaks that compared Bush to Hitler back in the day, but we are mostly talking about over the top left wingers that protest as a career and don't have enough of a real job to ever represent anyone. I would hope if anyone in the public spotlight ever did/does it, they will feel repercussions.

[Mustang]

There were some freaks that compared Bush to Hitler back in the day, but we are mostly talking about over the top left wingers that protest as a career and don't have enough of a real job to ever represent anyone.

People were comparing Scott Walker to Hitler here in Wisconsin. You bust out a Hitler comparison, any valid point you have pretty much gets ignored and you get put in the idiot column.

[Mustang]

On a separate german note, I really wish Herman Cain would rename his nine nine nine idea to something else...

just sayin. :)

[molson]

There were some freaks that compared Bush to Hitler back in the day, but we are mostly talking about over the top left wingers that protest as a career and don't have enough of a real job to ever represent anyone.

Except for that Minnesota congressman.

You got to know your audience is all. A far left or far right representative, fringe media type, or non-working celebrity might be able to get away with it. But a corporate endorser/spokesman is going to get dumped for anything controversial. Tiger Woods got dumped by companies just for banging lots of skanks.

[stevew]

I'm pretty sure I can self determine my readiness level for American football without vocal prompting from a hillbilly.

[molson]

I'm pretty sure I can self determine my readiness level for American football without vocal prompting from a hillbilly.

I'm actually not sure whether I can yet, but Colts/Buccs were perhaps not the best test.

[stevew]

Dola

Faith Hill needs to say something dumb now, as well.

[Crapshoot]

I think if you think that was his point, then you are the one with larger issues.

Besides Germany prospered under hitler regime, no?

Dude, I like you just fine - but Williams was comparing Obama to Hitler as his follow up shows. Shit, no one's suggesting you gotta love the president - invoking Godwin's law is ass stupid, and Williams is a dumb ass for it.

[TCY Junkie]

Dude, I like you just fine - but Williams was comparing Obama to Hitler as his follow up shows. Shit, no one's suggesting you gotta love the president - invoking Godwin's law is ass stupid, and Williams is a dumb ass for it.

Dude, what about me. Do you like me?

[Matthean]

Dola

Faith Hill needs to say something dumb now, as well.

I thought that was The Dixie Chicks job?

[CU Tiger]

Dude, I like you just fine - but Williams was comparing Obama to Hitler as his follow up shows. Shit, no one's suggesting you gotta love the president - invoking Godwin's law is ass stupid, and Williams is a dumb ass for it.

To be fair, I am just pot stirring a bit here.
And I feel pretty sure HWJ was as well....heck it sure has made him more relevant in the national conversation than he has been since at least what, 1985?
With an upcoming congressional bid, in a pretty red state it could be a good tactic, as sad a statement as that is.

All that said, the schtick was getting a bit longin the tooth and I'm (along with most of America I assume) ready for a cange

[Scoobz0202]

Dola

Faith Hill needs to say something dumb now, as well.

:rant:

[TCY Junkie]

Dola

Faith Hill needs to say something dumb now, as well.

I do

[mckerney]

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[M GO BLUE!!!]

Hank Williams Jr. gets to hang out with Gilbert Gottfied now.

Dumb & Dumber.

And Williams had ample opportunity to clarify his statement. He did. He made it more clear in followup questions that he considers the President of the United States to be equal to a man who thought the torture and murder of millions of people whose only crime was being Jewish, gay or any other obscenely stupid thing he could come up with was a reason to exterminate human lives.

Way to go Mr. Williams. Yee-fucking-ha.

[TCY Junkie]

Hank Williams Jr. gets to hang out with Gilbert Gottfied now.

Dumb & Dumber.

And Williams had ample opportunity to clarify his statement. He did. He made it more clear in followup questions that he considers the President of the United States to be equal to a man who thought the torture and murder of millions of people whose only crime was being Jewish, gay or any other obscenely stupid thing he could come up with was a reason to exterminate human lives.

Way to go Mr. Williams. Yee-fucking-ha.

I know people who almost seem to brag about getting an unemployment check, people used to be embarrassed to do that. Too many people just don't give a shit anymore, feel they are entitled. The situation is so f'd up I don't even like to think about it much. The government has crippled the economy and this president only wants to make government bigger.

I just don't understand people being so political correct. If someone killed 30 people in a neighboring town would you dislike them less if they only killed your family. This is happening to our nation so I can see why people would dislike him even more than hitler.

I thought this was a discussion, why is everyone saying the same thing.

[DaddyTorgo]

I know people who almost seem to brag about getting an unemployment check, people used to be embarrassed to do that. Too many people just don't give a shit anymore, feel they are entitled. The situation is so f'd up I don't even like to think about it much. The government has crippled the economy and this president only wants to make government bigger.

I just don't understand people being so political correct. If someone killed 30 people in a neighboring town would you dislike them less if they only killed your family. This is happening to our nation so I can see why people would dislike him even more than hitler.

I thought this was a discussion, why is everyone saying the same thing.

So you're doubling down on the dumber?

*Whoosh*

That's the sound of my opinion of you going down the toilet. Adios.

[SirFozzie]

I thought this was a discussion, why is everyone saying the same thing.

Because everyone agrees that comparing people to Nazis is a stupid thing to do, and is liable to piss people off? Well.. not quite everyone...

[RainMaker]

I know people who almost seem to brag about getting an unemployment check, people used to be embarrassed to do that. Too many people just don't give a shit anymore, feel they are entitled. The situation is so f'd up I don't even like to think about it much. The government has crippled the economy and this president only wants to make government bigger.
Unemployment is an insurance you pay through your own wages (6.2% of your first $7000 paid in wages). This is like saying that filing an auto or health insurance claim is an entitlement. People who collect unemployment paid their premium. I don't know why anyone would be ashamed of that.

I just don't understand people being so political correct. If someone killed 30 people in a neighboring town would you dislike them less if they only killed your family. This is happening to our nation so I can see why people would dislike him even more than hitler.
It's not being politically correct, it's business. Michael Jordan had a quote that fits in perfect to the situation when asked why he didn't get political. "Republicans buy sneakers too".

ESPN is simply saying "Democrats watch Monday Night Football too".

[CU Tiger]

Unemployment is an insurance you pay through your own wages (6.2% of your first $7000 paid in wages). This is like saying that filing an auto or health insurance claim is an entitlement. People who collect unemployment paid their premium. I don't know why anyone would be ashamed of that.


And now that benefits have been extended beyond 52 weeks....how much has been paid in?

Which leads to an interesting question, why cant we require some "work" for unemployment. Heck there is enough trash on road sides we could require everyone on unemployment to log say 20 hours a week doing community service type work...I bet that would A) benefit America and B) eliminate quite a few recipients if they actually had to you know, work for their pay.

[Pumpy Tudors]

now i dont understand how
1) people are insulting hank williams jr for saying something inflammatory and
2) i am agreeing with hank williams jr and
3) people are insulting me

please help me i failed propositional logic in school

[Ksyrup]

Dola

Faith Hill needs to say something dumb now, as well.

Don't worry - I'm sure ESPN is working with Shania Twain to "rewrite" a Pat Benatar song to be the new opener for MNF.

[Young Drachma]

And now that benefits have been extended beyond 52 weeks....how much has been paid in?

Which leads to an interesting question, why cant we require some "work" for unemployment. Heck there is enough trash on road sides we could require everyone on unemployment to log say 20 hours a week doing community service type work...I bet that would A) benefit America and B) eliminate quite a few recipients if they actually had to you know, work for their pay.

i've never been on unemployment buf I believe every state requires you to look for a job while you're on it. It's not welfare, as Rainmaker said you pay into it. Extended benefits aren't for people to live off "your tax dollars" bug rather to ensure they can keep the lights on/feed their families/themselves while they look for work.

This isn't a bygone era where that's necessarily an easy task, either.

[A-Husker-4-Life]

It's simple.. No prior work = No Unemployment pay..

[Honolulu_Blue]

I had no idea that MNF was still using this song as an intro.

[cuervo72]

They could call Pink.

[King of New York]

Are you ready for some Hitler?
A lebensraum party?
Operation Barbarossa
Let's get it kick-started.

[Crapshoot]

I know people who almost seem to brag about getting an unemployment check, people used to be embarrassed to do that. Too many people just don't give a shit anymore, feel they are entitled. The situation is so f'd up I don't even like to think about it much. The government has crippled the economy and this president only wants to make government bigger.

I just don't understand people being so political correct. If someone killed 30 people in a neighboring town would you dislike them less if they only killed your family. This is happening to our nation so I can see why people would dislike him even more than hitler.

I thought this was a discussion, why is everyone saying the same thing.

Are you fucking serious? the President is comparable, neigh worse than Hitler? You need help.

[TCY Junkie]

Unemployment is an insurance you pay through your own wages (6.2% of your first $7000 paid in wages). This is like saying that filing an auto or health insurance claim is an entitlement. People who collect unemployment paid their premium. I don't know why anyone would be ashamed of that.


It's not being politically correct, it's business. Michael Jordan had a quote that fits in perfect to the situation when asked why he didn't get political. "Republicans buy sneakers too".

ESPN is simply saying "Democrats watch Monday Night Football too".

Maybe I run into the wrong people all the time but they seem happy on unemployment and will look for a job when it runs out. There is no way they paid in as much as they have gotten back, and celebrate when unemployment gets extended.You are absolutely right, they don't seem ashamed. I'm not some heartless guy, just the system is totally messed up. Some people do really deserve it but far away from all shouldn't feel ashamed.

[TCY Junkie]

now i dont understand how
1) people are insulting hank williams jr for saying something inflammatory and
2) i am agreeing with hank williams jr and
3) people are insulting me

please help me i failed propositional logic in school

Ha, I bowl monday's with my dad.

[JPhillips]

The average unemployment benefit is $295 a week and they are treated as income for tax purposes. That's well under 40 hours of minimum wage. Anyone who is thrilled to stay on unemployment rather than work is a fool.

The problem now may be that unemployment is a good option because there are few jobs. I'd rather work, but if I can't find a job I'd rather get unemployment than starve.

[Drake]

Absolutely ridiculous to compare ANYONE to Hitler.

What about this guy?

Alois Hitler - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alois_Hitler)

[Ronnie Dobbs2]

Are you fucking serious?

You mean he isn't a gimmick account? :confused:

[JPhillips]

What about cats?

http://www.catsthatlooklikehitler.com/kitler/pics/kitler30.jpg

[TCY Junkie]

Are you fucking serious? the President is comparable, neigh worse than Hitler? You need help.

Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. Really? The guy tortured millions. The guy was the worse person to live I know. I just don't deal with hitler daily, and things the president is doing is making things I do deal with worse in the future I feel when things are already getting bad. Am I saying he's the worst president ever, no. We won't know that for years.

I just got captivated by this, that being no one knows people that abuse the system and fine with even bigger government. It should be cracked down on and not expanded til functioning properly. Let's make another department agency so we can "help" the people more. I understand why espn pulled him, just thought there might be some people on this site who would point out that the system needs to be fixed and not expanded. I had hopes of seeing that and some discussion on that matter, me I don't really want to talk about it just wanted to see it discussed. It's pretty obvious even to me that even a toddler should know that hitler was worse than the president. I guess I didn't want to bring up the system being bad because I don't want people I know hurt, but it bothers me. It's pretty fucking obvious to me things are screwed up so me saying something bad about the president to me should be reflected on that and not I agree with hank. He's a singer.

[Ronnie Dobbs2]

If you want to argue politics, there are plenty of useless threads here where that is done on a daily basis.

[JPhillips]

Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. Really? The guy tortured millions. The guy was the worse person to live I know. I just don't deal with hitler daily, and things the president is doing is making things I do deal with worse in the future I feel when things are already getting bad. Am I saying he's the worst president ever, no. We won't know that for years.

There's something delightfully Tyler Sloan-esque about this.

[Julio Riddols]

Dola

Faith Hill needs to say something dumb now, as well.

This. That Sunday Night Football ripoff copycat bullshit pisses me off - And why is it always a country singer that they use for these theme songs? Why not just do it week by week now and let a different artist/band/interesting person put their spin on it each week?

Or, just as acceptable, why do it at all?

Or, third option, let Weird Al write a polka version.

[Julio Riddols]

Dola - Actually, what I would really prefer is if someone that sounds like John Facenda would read a matchup relevant monologue accompanied by some Sam Spence music prior to the game.

[Ksyrup]

This. That Sunday Night Football ripoff copycat bullshit pisses me off

I have no doubt Joan Jett and Desmond Child are getting paid for this, and are probably more than happy about it.

[TCY Junkie]

So you're doubling down on the dumber?

*Whoosh*

That's the sound of my opinion of you going down the toilet. Adios.

Wow, didn't see this earlier. I had no clue you could think lower of me than you already do. Looks like I need to be a little more open minded.

If you want to argue politics, there are plenty of useless threads here where that is done on a daily basis.

I'm good just wanted to vent. He said what he did because the president wants to expand government. The government is in debt and is asking for more control when they can't run things as is? How about giving money to an investor for years and years and years and then hear they want to expand and need even a bigger percentage of money. I don't open political threads usually, I don't want to argue if the nation is in debt or not.

[BlackJack]

I know people who almost seem to brag about getting an unemployment check, people used to be embarrassed to do that. Too many people just don't give a shit anymore, feel they are entitled. The situation is so f'd up I don't even like to think about it much. The government has crippled the economy and this president only wants to make government bigger.

I just don't understand people being so political correct. If someone killed 30 people in a neighboring town would you dislike them less if they only killed your family. This is happening to our nation so I can see why people would dislike him even more than hitler.

I thought this was a discussion, why is everyone saying the same thing.


I hope for your sake that you're 14 and there's time to shake off the stupid, otherwise life is going to be a long painful ride for you and your ignorant ass.

[Ronnie Dobbs2]

That's fine, all I'm saying is that if you want to have those sorts of conversations they happen all the time here.

[JediKooter]

What about cats?

http://www.catsthatlooklikehitler.com/kitler/pics/kitler30.jpg

So Hank Williams Jr has a cat that looks like Hitler?!?!? At least he didn't call the president, Col. Klink.

[TCY Junkie]

I hope for your sake that you're 14 and there's time to shake off the stupid, otherwise life is going to be a long painful ride for you and your ignorant ass.

I admit I don't like you. Last time I went to Vegas I won 500 on the horses and then lost 120 in a blink of an eye at a card game.

[frnk55]

This. That Sunday Night Football ripoff copycat bullshit pisses me off - And why is it always a country singer that they use for these theme songs? Why not just do it week by week now and let a different artist/band/interesting person put their spin on it each week?

Or, just as acceptable, why do it at all?

Or, third option, let Weird Al write a polka version.
Hell of a lot better than Pink. I am in favor of Weird Al though. :)

[JediKooter]

I would love to see/hear a Weird Al MNF theme song.

[RainMaker]

Faith Hill got rid of the short skirt in the intros which is disappointing since her song sucks.

[BlackJack]

I admit I don't like you. Last time I went to Vegas I won 500 on the horses and then lost 120 in a blink of an eye at a card game.

cool. How much for the hookers?

[CU Tiger]

i've never been on unemployment buf I believe every state requires you to look for a job while you're on it. It's not welfare, as Rainmaker said you pay into it. Extended benefits aren't for people to live off "your tax dollars" bug rather to ensure they can keep the lights on/feed their families/themselves while they look for work.

This isn't a bygone era where that's necessarily an easy task, either.

This varies state by state, but in NC you can submit an application through monster for any job whether you qualify or not and it counts towards your monthly 10. BTW the one person I personally know draws 495 per week and it is not taxed......

[cartman]

Unemployment taxation might vary by state, but they are gonna get sent a 1099-G for federal tax purposes.

[sterlingice]

We need a Grammar N....evermind

This post did not get nearly enough love! :D

So, I present to you 10 dancing bananas:

:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:

SI

[Julio Riddols]

I have no doubt Joan Jett and Desmond Child are getting paid for this, and are probably more than happy about it.

If it benefits Joan Jett, I suddenly find myself more supportive of it.

[GreenMonster]

If sacrificing Hank Williams means I will never hear the Dixie Chicks or Kayne West on ESPN it may be worth it.

[RendeR]

This varies state by state, but in NC you can submit an application through monster for any job whether you qualify or not and it counts towards your monthly 10. BTW the one person I personally know draws 495 per week and it is not taxed......


No it is not taxed at the time, however you MUST account for it as income when you file your income tax return, therefore you will pay tax on it.

[CrimsonFox]

What about cats?

http://www.catsthatlooklikehitler.com/kitler/pics/kitler30.jpg


This. OMG this.

[M GO BLUE!!!]

TCY... I'm confused. Do you think President Obama is worse than Hitler or not? You hav e said both in this thread. If you want to submit a new theme for MNF, I suggest you clarify your opinion...

As for whether the government is screwed up... Duh. Fucking duh. If you think Republicans really want to fix it you are seriously not paying attention. It is a shell game. R's want to make government smaller, but only where it doesn't effect their districts and/or campaign contributors. Sure, we could use a welfare reform (why did you pick on unemployment over welfare?) but nobody in either party has proposed making it a program that is designed to get people off it... with incentives to do so, like unemployment.

If I were to name all of the things that the government has its hands in that you take for granted, we'd be here a while... Wanna cut meat inspectors? Feel like filling potholes yourself? Want to drive across a bridge that the government doesn't give a damn about inspecting or drink water from a river that companies can dispose of whatever they wish in?

Government has its place.

But this thread was actually about a country music singer that more than half of the people out there couldn't name a single thing he sang other than the MNF theme saying something really stupid & losing that gig. I bet his dad (who he was lucky to be named after) would have been proud of him for making the simplistic Hitler comparison.

As for me, there's a tear in my beer...

[CrimsonFox]

I hope Hank is replaced by Lady Gaga

[CrimsonFox]

This post did not get nearly enough love! :D

So, I present to you 10 dancing bananas:

:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:

SI


and I add one :funkychickendance: funky chicken for an awesome joke. :)

[CU Tiger]

No it is not taxed at the time, however you MUST account for it as income when you file your income tax return, therefore you will pay tax on it.


True, but of course when you figure, what 42%, have zero tax liability you can pretty much guess that those on unemployment won't have a tax burden....unless you believe that A) 42+% of the US is on unemployment or B) there are people working full time jobs making less than others on unemployment.

So either you agree unemployment income is untaxed OR you agree the system is royally fawked. (or C both)

[molson]

True, but of course when you figure, what 42%, have zero tax liability you can pretty much guess that those on unemployment won't have a tax burden....unless you believe that A) 42+% of the US is on unemployment or B) there are people working full time jobs making less than others on unemployment.



There are definitely a bunch of "B" out there depending on the state, and how much they made before. I'm not saying that's a bad thing, I'm not saying it's unfair, but depending on your circumstance (usually single, no kids, renting), unemployment checks can be a pretty great thing and something you stretch out as long as possible and not something you voluntary give up for some crappy job.

[CraigSca]

Purely anecdotal, but I had a family member, living in a dual income household, gladly accept that check every week without looking for a job, only doing so after the 52+ week period ended. I really don't know how you fix this, however.

Also, while it's true you pay into unemployment income insurance every week, so does the employer. So, it's not completely funded by the workers.

[SirFozzie]

Meanwhile, Hank doubles down on stupid:

ESPN -- Hank Williams Jr. theme song won't return to Monday Night Football - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7066449/espn-hank-williams-jr-theme-song-return-monday-night-football)

""After reading hundreds of e-mails, I have made MY decision," he wrote. "By pulling my opening Oct 3rd, You (ESPN) stepped on the Toes of The First Amendment Freedom of Speech, so therefore Me, My Song, and All My Rowdy Friends are OUT OF HERE. It's been a great run."

So much for the apology etcetera. So long Hank. Enjoy being completely irrelevant once again. Maybe in his now copious amounts of free time he and his rowdy friends can get a hold of the constitution and figure out that pesky first amendment :)

[Honolulu_Blue]

Meanwhile, Hank doubles down on stupid:

ESPN -- Hank Williams Jr. theme song won't return to Monday Night Football - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7066449/espn-hank-williams-jr-theme-song-return-monday-night-football)

""After reading hundreds of e-mails, I have made MY decision," he wrote. "By pulling my opening Oct 3rd, You (ESPN) stepped on the Toes of The First Amendment Freedom of Speech, so therefore Me, My Song, and All My Rowdy Friends are OUT OF HERE. It's been a great run."

So much for the apology etcetera. So long Hank. Enjoy being completely irrelevant once again :)

Heh!

No, ESPN didn't step on the Toes of The First Amendment Freedom of Speech, Hank. In fact, ESPN was just exercising its First Amendment Freedom of Speech by pulling your opening Oct 3rd.

[A-Husker-4-Life]

Meanwhile, Hank doubles down on stupid:

ESPN -- Hank Williams Jr. theme song won't return to Monday Night Football - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7066449/espn-hank-williams-jr-theme-song-return-monday-night-football)

""After reading hundreds of e-mails, I have made MY decision," he wrote. "By pulling my opening Oct 3rd, You (ESPN) stepped on the Toes of The First Amendment Freedom of Speech, so therefore Me, My Song, and All My Rowdy Friends are OUT OF HERE. It's been a great run."

So much for the apology etcetera. So long Hank. Enjoy being completely irrelevant once again. Maybe in his now copious amounts of free time he and his rowdy friends can get a hold of the constitution and figure out that pesky first amendment :)

WOW, Hank Jr is f'ing crazy. He had a chance to make things right and just shat on it.

[JediKooter]

Nobody stepped on your 1st Amendment rights Hank, as I'm sure both parties signed a contract that more than likely had a clause in it that they could cancel the contract. Hank, ESPN never said you can't say what you want. They said you can't work there anymore. Big difference.

[Crapshoot]

Brings to mind one of my favorite Onion articles: Area Man Passionate Defender Of What He Imagines Constitution To Be | The Onion - America's Finest News Source (http://www.theonion.com/articles/area-man-passionate-defender-of-what-he-imagines-c,2849/)

[M GO BLUE!!!]

Williams is talking about running for Senate next year. Would the theme have had to be pulled anyway?

Good riddance.

[Ksyrup]

Quick, someone pen some football-related lyrics for Hit Me With Your Best Shot!

[DaddyTorgo]

Heh!

No, ESPN didn't step on the Toes of The First Amendment Freedom of Speech, Hank. In fact, ESPN was just exercising its First Amendment Freedom of Speech by pulling your opening Oct 3rd.

This. Man I love when stupid people totally misunderstand the First Amendment.

Just goes to show how fucking stupid they really are.

[Ksyrup]

Quick, someone pen some football-related lyrics for Hit Me With Your Best Shot!

On second thought, given the state of the NFL these days, this probably wouldn't be appropriate without a subtitle:

Hit Me With Your Best Shot (But Not There or There or There)

[stevew]

Love is a Battlefield would be better.

And why do they have these themes in the first place? I'm guessing it's is some relic of TV regulations so that the show can be counted for ratings purposes.

[wishbone]

I think Hank Williams Jr was proposing that Obama and Boehner golfing was as ridiculous as Hitler and Netanyahu golfing together. The biggest problem here is not political ideology but space and time. Netanyahu was not born until 4 years after Hitler had died. Think about this carefully, this golf pairing could only occur if one of them traveled through time. Hitler obviously can't have a time machine or WWII would have ended better for him. The alternative is that Netanyahu traveled in time to play golf with Hitler, something that also seems unlikely given his birth in Israel and special forces background.

In conclusion Hank Williams Jr is wrong. It is much less ridiculous for 2 golf-playing politicians in the same country at the same time to play together than 2 politicians playing after one of them has traveled through time.

I think that someone at Fox should be fired for bringing Hank in as a political commentator - why would anyone care what he has to say?

[TCY Junkie]

TCY... I'm confused. Do you think President Obama is worse than Hitler or not? You hav e said both in this thread. If you want to submit a new theme for MNF, I suggest you clarify your opinion...



Thought I was somewhat clear. If someone dealt with trying to fix the system and felt a smaller government was better, after dealing with it nonstop, emotions could get them so frustrated to see someone like the President as the person they hate most in life. Me, I'm not emotionally pissed at the president. I don't care for him, but definitely don't think he worse than hitler. The basis I felt he said what he did was because the President wants to expand which is crazy if you can't run things as is. I would like a smaller government but know many things are needed. And things are difficult, if we went to a straight tax many people would be out of jobs. Even with this guy bowling a 752 series last night against us, his team was the tax cutters, I still don't want him out of a job.

I don't know of a more feared enemy than hitler would have been to Isreal. The guy was a lunatic and had power. Definition of an enemies since you can't ignore hitler if you're Isreal. To me enemies in the dictionary should have Hitler and Isreal. I see how many might not view it this way but it's definitely also there in my eyes if you're talented enough to also think like stupid people.

[Crapshoot]

I take it back, you are beyond crazy. Also, its Israel, not "Isreal".

[Kodos]

Are you ready for unemployment?! A pick your nose parttttty!

[JediKooter]

Israel (est. 1947ish) didn't exist until after Hitler was dead. So they couldn't be and can't be enemies. Now Nazis on the other hand...Nazis would be the enemy of Israel and as a matter of fact, Israel hunted down a bunch of Nazis and still do to this day. Though, there aren't as many now as there was in the mid 20th century.

[TCY Junkie]

I think because Hitler killed Jews, Jews live in Israel now is what he was going after. When it was established doesn't matter in his mind. I can still understand what he was trying to say. And he has a right to speak his mind or just grab things out of the air and not go to jail.

[Honolulu_Blue]

I think because Hitler killed Jews, Jews live in Israel now is what he was going after. When it was established doesn't matter in his mind. I can still understand what he was trying to say. And he has a right to speak his mind or just grab things out of the air and not go to jail.

Hank Williams is in jail?!?!?

:eek:

[Schmidty]

Hank Williams is in jail?!?!?

:eek:

You're thinking of Johnny Cash.

[JediKooter]

Obama said that ESPN wanted to put Hank Williams into a concentration camp??? Someone call the ACLU, stat!

[M GO BLUE!!!]

Confused I am.

[SirFozzie]

Apparently Hank is not the only one doubling down on dumb statements. :/

[TCY Junkie]

Hank Williams is in jail?!?!?

:eek:

ha, not that I know of. The thought of anyone actually believing he thinks hitler and obama are equals is ridiculous. I just see him throwing that out there to be entertaining. He has rights not to be thrown in jail for saying ridiculous things and those are covered in the first amendment. EPSN said since you expressed your thoughts you're getting pulled. He didn't like it, don't see him suing them as they didn't break any laws. Maybe I have too much faith in people. I see it as somewhat of a joke that got out of hand. Would like to think ESPN could take the joke but maybe they know their audience better than I and think they don't realize he can't seriously think obama and hitler are equals. I truly believe what he said was for entertainment. Crazy to be blown up that he believes they are equals.

[JPhillips]

I'm disappointed in the lack of intellectual consistency from Bocephus.

[sterlingice]

I think Hank Williams Jr was proposing that Obama and Boehner golfing was as ridiculous as Hitler and Netanyahu golfing together. The biggest problem here is not political ideology but space and time. Netanyahu was not born until 4 years after Hitler had died. Think about this carefully, this golf pairing could only occur if one of them traveled through time. Hitler obviously can't have a time machine or WWII would have ended better for him. The alternative is that Netanyahu traveled in time to play golf with Hitler, something that also seems unlikely given his birth in Israel and special forces background.

"1937: Hitler joins the Thule Society, a group of German aristocrats obsessed with the occult. In 1938, he acquired the spear of Longinus, which pierced the side of Christ. He who holds it becomes invincible. Hitler's power increases tenfold. 1943: President Roosevelt decides to fight back. The Bureau of Paranormal Research and Defense is born. 1958: the Occult Wars finally come to an end with the death of Adolf Hitler."
"1945, you mean. Hitler died in '45."
"Did he now?"

SI

[JediKooter]

Wait. Is this the new Indiana Jones movie or is this Hell Boy?

[sterlingice]

That was Hellboy. But I could see how the anachronisms could throw you

SI

[JediKooter]

That was Hellboy. But I could see how the anachronisms could throw you

SI

Looks like I'm going to have to watch Hellboy soon.

[Ksyrup]

I'm disappointed in the lack of intellectual consistency from Bocephus.

You mean the guy who sang, "If the South would have won we woulda had it made"?

[Pumpy Tudors]

ha, not that I know of. The thought of anyone actually believing he thinks hitler and obama are equals is ridiculous. I just see him throwing that out there to be entertaining. He has rights not to be thrown in jail for saying ridiculous things and those are covered in the first amendment. EPSN said since you expressed your thoughts you're getting pulled. He didn't like it, don't see him suing them as they didn't break any laws. Maybe I have too much faith in people. I see it as somewhat of a joke that got out of hand. Would like to think ESPN could take the joke but maybe they know their audience better than I and think they don't realize he can't seriously think obama and hitler are equals. I truly believe what he said was for entertainment. Crazy to be blown up that he believes they are equals.
Please dig up. Please.

[TCY Junkie]

Please dig up. Please.

Ha, this is the best thing I've read in ages.

[TCY Junkie]

Purely anecdotal, but I had a family member, living in a dual income household, gladly accept that check every week without looking for a job, only doing so after the 52+ week period ended. I really don't know how you fix this, however.

Also, while it's true you pay into unemployment income insurance every week, so does the employer. So, it's not completely funded by the workers.

While I am bothered by this, I didn't like the reaction of pulling his song. It doesn't surprise me though, just something I couldn't let go easily. I understand why they did it, but it just crazy to me. Why can't everyone get along. I think pumpy was saying I was oblivious if I didn't understand it being pulled, I don't want to understand is the point. I don't think there was any hate involved but maybe there is and if so I should dig up to get my head out of the sand. Anyway, I'm trying to be more social online so thanks for your input.

[Ksyrup]

Toes of The First Amendment


Possible band name, that is.

[JediKooter]

Martyrs for the 1st

They could be fronted by Dr. Laura, with Hank playing guitar.

[Pumpy Tudors]

While I am bothered by this, I didn't like the reaction of pulling his song. It doesn't surprise me though, just something I couldn't let go easily. I understand why they did it, but it just crazy to me. Why can't everyone get along. I think pumpy was saying I was oblivious if I didn't understand it being pulled, I don't want to understand is the point. I don't think there was any hate involved but maybe there is and if so I should dig up to get my head out of the sand. Anyway, I'm trying to be more social online so thanks for your input.
I certainly think you're capable of understanding why it was pulled, so I wouldn't necessarily call you oblivious. It's just more of a "put yourself in their shoes" thing. ESPN had absolutely nothing to gain and a lot to lose by keeping him around. There's money on the line here. ESPN's not really trying to make a social statement. They're not really taking a stand. They're just not going to create a bad situation for themselves. That's just bad (and stupid) business.

[sterlingice]

Please dig up. Please.

I believe this is what you were looking for:

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y268/sterlingice/smileys/ttiuwpp.gif

Oops... I meant this:

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y268/sterlingice/smileys/digup.gif

SI

[kcchief19]

The Hitler As Symbol Chart
Rule 1: It is never a good idea to invoke the name of Hitler to make an unrelated sports-related point — or any unrelated point.
Rule 2: However, if you plan going to bring up Hitler in historical context, see Rule 1.
Rule 3: In certain rare cases, when you are interested in using Hitler to prove a larger truth, see Rule 1.
Rule 4: The one exception to this is … See Rule 1.
Rule 5: Yeah. Rule 1. Always.

[Buccaneer]

You mean the guy who sang, "If the South would have won we woulda had it made"?

:lol: Good thing I don't pay attention to ignorant rednecks.

[TCY Junkie]

I certainly think you're capable of understanding why it was pulled, so I wouldn't necessarily call you oblivious. It's just more of a "put yourself in their shoes" thing. ESPN had absolutely nothing to gain and a lot to lose by keeping him around. There's money on the line here. ESPN's not really trying to make a social statement. They're not really taking a stand. They're just not going to create a bad situation for themselves. That's just bad (and stupid) business.

I was thinking about that but mainly being in hanks shoes because he didn't deserve being labeled a certain way for trying to have a good time. They pull his song which totally makes it look like there might be some merit to that he believes they are equal. What you said is a given. There are things I like to discuss, I tend to jump over things obvious. I don't have an opinion one way or the other, or trying to prove something with talking about him getting shafted. Just like to say things and explore possibilities. If my exploring things not likely makes people think I'm dumb than feel free to think that. I don't jump off a bridge which is inspected for safety just because others are doing it.

[Passacaglia]

Why can't everyone get along.

Because apparently, just because you're leaders of opposing political parties who both want what's best for the same country, it's as if you're mortal enemies?

[TCY Junkie]

Because apparently, just because you're leaders of opposing political parties who both want what's best for the same country, it's as if you're mortal enemies?

Hey Pass,
I know it's pretty stupid. I didn't think he would apologize because he wasn't sorry for the comparison. He wasn't comparing hitler to obama. Probably thought he was being cute and got offended when it came back to it bite him in the ass.

What I've been kicking around my brain was dropping him effecting his name more than it would have effect Espn if they kept him. What he said was absurd. Espn at the minimum should have said they dropped him for being an ass. What they did gave some merit to people that he may feel they are equal.

[JPhillips]

Let's go to the tape.

Fox Host: I don't understand that analogy actually.

HWJ: I'm glad you don't brother, cause a lot of people do.

And later:

Fox Host:You used the name of one of the most hated people in all of the world to describe the, uhh, I think, the president.

HWJ: Well that's true. That is true.

Still want to say he wasn't making the comparison?

[CrimsonFox]

I think Hank Williams Jr was proposing that Obama and Boehner golfing was as ridiculous as Hitler and Netanyahu golfing together. The biggest problem here is not political ideology but space and time. Netanyahu was not born until 4 years after Hitler had died. Think about this carefully, this golf pairing could only occur if one of them traveled through time. Hitler obviously can't have a time machine or WWII would have ended better for him. The alternative is that Netanyahu traveled in time to play golf with Hitler, something that also seems unlikely given his birth in Israel and special forces background.

In conclusion Hank Williams Jr is wrong. It is much less ridiculous for 2 golf-playing politicians in the same country at the same time to play together than 2 politicians playing after one of them has traveled through time.

I think that someone at Fox should be fired for bringing Hank in as a political commentator - why would anyone care what he has to say?

+10000
and the highlighted part was my favorite.

[TCY Junkie]

Let's go to the tape.



And later:



Still want to say he wasn't making the comparison?


He wasn't comparing them overall. If you think he believes obama is as bad as hitler than fine. Convincing me he believes that would be like convincing me that tony romo is as bad as andre ware.

[CrimsonFox]

They could call Pink.


You think he's kidding...

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