Official College Football thread - Week 7

[cartman]

Another weekend of games is quickly approaching! Only a few matchups of Top 25 teams this week:

Oklahoma State at Texas
Arizona State at Oregon
and one of the big rivalry games: Michigan at Michigan State

[MJ4H]

Arkansas plays BYE this week. Have to be careful, I hear they gave Florida State a pretty rough time last week.

[Ksyrup]

UK plays BYE as well, and is guaranteed not to lose.

Although they just lost their freshman RB for the season. As if it could get any worse...

[MacroGuru]

BYU heads to Oregon State this week...I can watch it on a 6 hour tape delay...or find a bar that has the sports packages and beg them to play the regional broadcast.

The fact BYU had to negotiate with the PAC 10 and Fox to get this game on TV and then get it tape delayed pisses me off..

"Hi, we have this state of the art HD truck and tv production facility, we are willing to foot the bill on this and drive up to Corvallis and show the game nationally, you guys ok with that?"

"No"

"Are you sure...we have money."

"Maybe"

"Maybe? Well, what happens if you can show it on your on fox channel, could we, pretty please?"

"Sure, but you have to tape delay for 6 hours to show it on your own station....."

[Kodos]

Hopefully Indiana can keep the score in the upcoming Wisconsin game closer than 83-20.

[Ksyrup]

I laughed so loud at this that someone came to see WTF was going on in my office. So, here:


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[dawgfan]

Washington gets a really banged-up Colorado at home this Saturday. Good test to see where this program is - do they take care of business and easily dispatch the Buffs, or do they get cocky and overlook them while thinking about the following week's game at Stanford?

[Matthean]

and one of the big rivalry games: Michigan at Michigan State

I think the amount of talking between fan bases after the game might be more interesting than the game. I think their combined record is being a wee bit kind in saying how good both of them are though. Offensively, MSU isn't as good this year, but their D is decent. I'm still not sure how good, or not Michigan is. Robinson has to prove he can throw against a defense that's tougher than a stiff wind. MSU hasn't run well against physical defenses, but Michigan isn't exactly physical just yet.

[Ksyrup]

FauxPelini (http://twitter.com/#!/FauxPelini) Fake Bo Pelini
SOMEBODY GIVE ME A TODDLER TO SCREAM AT RT <S>@</S>ESPN_BigTen (http://twitter.com/#!/ESPN_BigTen): Big blow for Big Red: Crick out for season

[digamma]

Georgia Tech has only won in Charlottesville once since its national title season in 1990. Of course, it was the last time they played there in 2009, but still not a very good track record on visiting God's country.

[General Mike]

Hopefully Rutgers can stay focused.

[Matthean]

Text From Last Night is coming to E. Lansing for the game. I wonder the over/under on tales of debauchery that come out of it.

[tarcone]

Great. We get Northwestern. They love to play Iowa. Its a home game for the Hawks, but I dont know if that will help.

[Ksyrup]

Pat Forde leaving ESPN for Yahoo. I wonder what part the Bruce Feldman thing played in this, and whether others might take the opportunity to look around.

[Eaglesfan27]

I'm very excited to see what Farmer does at RB tonight.

[Matthean]

Pat Forde leaving ESPN for Yahoo. I wonder what part the Bruce Feldman thing played in this, and whether others might take the opportunity to look around.

His Forde Yard Dash one of my favorite things to read.

[knolysis]

Arkansas plays BYE this week. Have to be careful, I hear they gave Florida State a pretty rough time last week.

Nice.

[bhlloy]

I'm very excited to see what Farmer does at RB tonight.

Sorry, Farmer is never a running back in a billion years. He just doesn't have the frame for it. Another desperation move and a burned redshirt from Kiffin, and Baxter is almost certain to transfer now (not that I'm nearly as concerned about that as I would have been a year ago, he looks like crap).

That being said, great game. This team finally looks like it has a backbone and found a couple linebackers who can make some plays. Very encouraging.

[Eaglesfan27]

I don't know about that. He was a good RB in pop warner, and he looked good on a few of his runs. He ran tough on the one near the side line and one inside. The fumble is concerning, but he has too much potential to not get back into the game - particularly with Tyler's injury looking like it will keep him out for a while. That being said, Moody had a nice game. Agreed about the linebackers and defense showing some backbone. Overall, it was a good game to watch, although I was disappointed in the offense's failure to capitalize more.

[bhlloy]

If you can name a RB who has had any success with his kind of lanky frame, I'd like to hear it. Closest I can think of at the college level is CJ Gable, but Gable was a little shorter and was much bigger in the lower body.

I just don't see him having near the impact at RB that he would at WR. As a change of pace guy and a receiver out of the backfield - maybe. But I can't see an everydown back, and I see an instant contributor at WR. It's a shortsighted move

[knolysis]

Here's to hoping the Seminoles can pull the car out of the ditch this week against the Blue Devils.

[bronconick]

Here's to hoping the Seminoles can pull the car out of the ditch this week against the Blue Devils.

If not....

http://www.maniacworld.com/Tsar-Nuclear-Explosion.jpg

[knolysis]

If not....

http://www.maniacworld.com/Tsar-Nuclear-Explosion.jpg


Hah! Yes, but let's hope it doesn't come to that...

[Lathum]

This Hawaii-Sna Jose State game may be the ugliest thing ever.

[tarcone]

I read that 20 recruits are visiting Iowa City this weekend. Its under the lights, lots of color (odd sections are black and even are yellow and the fans get cards to make and american flag theme during the national anthem and to celebrate America Needs Farmers), and playing a rival thats owned us. If we win it will be a big boost. If we lose, its a big hurt. Some good recruits are showing up. Come on Hawks.

[Thomkal]

Big game in the Big South this week. Coastal Carolina travels to Liberty in a battle of conference leaders. Coastal is somehow #20 in the rankings after beating just one good team (Furman) and three weak teams (Catawba, North Carolina A&T, VMI) so this game will show if they really deserve the ranking or not. Coastal beat Liberty last season, so I'm hoping for a repeat performance. ;)

[bronconick]

MSU and Michigan are wearing some of the shittiest jerseys I can recall seeing.

[DeToxRox]

MSU and Michigan are wearing some of the shittiest jerseys I can recall seeing.

It's awful lol.

[Matthean]

Michigan actually switched after seeing MSU.

[Matthean]

Michigan 7-0 after a key fake field goal that was painfully obvious from the start and more so once the guy went into motion.

[mauchow]

Montee Ball may score 5 touchdowns today.. maybe just three.

[Galaxy]

MSU and Michigan are wearing some of the shittiest jerseys I can recall seeing.

Uniforms in college football are getting out of control. Thanks Nike and Under Armour.

[Matthean]

Uniforms in college football are getting out of control. Thanks Nike and Under Armour.

We can think Nike and Oregon for that.

Michigan tied at 7. MSU made it look painfully easy as we start to see Michigan's D look more like it actually is.

[mauchow]

We can think Nike and Oregon for that.

Michigan tied at 7. MSU made it look painfully easy as we start to see Michigan's D look more like it actually is.

You gotta think the game will be nearly identical to that of ND and Michigan a few weeks ago.

[bronconick]

Indiana just punted into their own lineman for a one yard punt.

They should probably go NCAA '12 and replace them with the MAC Champions for a year.

[Matthean]

Not sure how much the dropped passes are a part of it, but the high winds I think favors Michigan since they aren't winning through the air anyway.

[mauchow]

Montee Balls third TD on the day - one of them throwing TD to Russell Wilson.

[Matthean]

Michigan can't throw and haven't been taking advantage of field position. MSU can't seem to get past themselves.

[cuervo72]

MSU and Michigan are wearing some of the shittiest jerseys I can recall seeing.

At least Michigan is somewhat recognizable as Michigan. MSU OTOH...wtf.

[DeToxRox]

Michigan is incredibly improved. Too bad that improvement took them from awful to below average.

[larrymcg421]

Hi Jacory Harris. It's been so long since I've seen you!

[Matthean]

Robinson will be the most hyped Michigan player that the fan base will be joyous when he leaves.

[Matthean]

Instead of pulling of a NW type 2nd half, Michigan looks to have regressed and they were exactly doing much before the half. This is just bad football.

[Mustang]

Montee Balls third TD on the day - one of them throwing TD to Russell Wilson.

52-7 3rd quarter.. so, in the last 7 quarters Wisconsin has put up 135 vs Indiana.

[DeToxRox]

How was Gholston not ejected yet? Kid's apparently got the same roid rage Vernon had.

[Matthean]

Stay classy MSU.

I like how Gardner came in and the offense moved a little and then Robinson came in and the offense stalled. I think Garner is only going to get more reps as the year passes on.

[MrBug708]

Michigan State's uni's look nice, Michigan's, not so much. But 17 year old kids will love them and that's all that really matters

[Matthean]

And as usual Robinson does just enough to where the game is 21-14 in the 4th. State fans have to be a little concerned that Michigan is playing this bad and is hanging around.

[Matthean]

And there's the fumble. Michigan's ball.

[DeToxRox]

Michigan State's uni's look nice, Michigan's, not so much. But 17 year old kids will love them and that's all that really matters

I think both look like shit but that's me. UM didn't even announce their jerseys, they just changed into them after warm ups.

[bronconick]

Holy derp, Sparty.

[DeToxRox]

Between the Lions/Bears on MNF and this game today, the football fans of Michigan have seen some abysmal games this week.

[DeToxRox]

Worst 4th down play call ever? I think so.

[bronconick]

That was the least manball call I've ever seen.

[Matthean]

I did a post on FB before the game saying neither were top 10 teams. Congrats U of M/MSU for confirming my point.

[Matthean]

And there's the mandatory INT by Robinson.

[Thomkal]

NC A&T is actually pretty good this year. Coastal is 20 in the coaches poll, 24 in the championshipsubdivision.com poll, and not ranked in the TSN poll which is the one the Big South uses to determine tiebreakers.

Liberty's 2 FCS losses are both 27-24 to JMU (TSN #13) and Lehigh (TSN #8). Should be a very good game and ESPN3 is showing it. The key, as is the case in nearly every LU game, is whether or not Mike Brown turns the ball over. If he doesn't, Liberty should take this by about a touchdown, if he does then Coastal could run it up as high as a 10 point win. Considering the way Brown has played in his last 4-5 big games, I expect the latter.

There was a report in today's local paper that Liberty's star receiver was hurt in practice this week and may not play. That would be a big boost for Coastal as he put up big numbers in the game last year. Liberty also plays very well at home and put up 50+ points when Coastal last played there. Coastal best offensive player perhaps TE David Duran won't be playing, either will a pretty good backup. I think its going to be very tough for Coastal to win, but we shall see shortly as the game is at 3:30. Keep me updated :)

[DeToxRox]

I'm impressed with how dirty MSU is.

[Matthean]

Two more classes acts by State

[bronconick]

HAHAHAHA. Nice work Gardner.

[TroyF]

I did a post on FB before the game saying neither were top 10 teams. Congrats U of M/MSU for confirming my point.


Considering neither one were in the top ten before the game, I think the entire world probably agreed with you before the game even started. The only reason Michigan was #11 is because they hadn't lost and the rules say teams who haven't lost need to be ranked high. Of all the unbeaten teams left in college football, only three had less respect than Michigan. (Georgia Tech, Illinois, Houston)

This has been an ugly game all the way around from both sides. I think the officiating has been a joke. #2 on Michigan State should have been ejected from the game twice. (I'm sorry, jerking a guys head around when the play is over is every bit as bad as a punch)

As far as how the teams have looked, though, I don't really think you can underestimate the weather. Not many teams are going to look good with a constant 25 MPH breeze with gusts up to 45 or 50 at times. Even the team with the wind has had issues. I still don't think either team is a top ten team, but with normal weather conditions I think this is a far more entertaining game.

[TroyF]

Quick side note here: I've always liked the Michigan State head coach. I will lose a MASSIVE amount of respect for him if he reviews the film and doesn't suspend #2 for next weeks game.

[bronconick]

Quick side note here: I've always liked the Michigan State head coach. I will lose a MASSIVE amount of respect for him if he reviews the film and doesn't suspend #2 for next weeks game.

Lose...respect? Dantonio picks up safeties at the front of the county jail in his car so they can catch the plane to Iowa.

[Matthean]

Quick side note here: I've always liked the Michigan State head coach. I will lose a MASSIVE amount of respect for him if he reviews the film and doesn't suspend #2 for next weeks game.

I fully expect him to not miss a game. Wisconsin is next.

[TroyF]

Lose...respect? Dantonio picks up safeties at the front of the county jail in his car so they can catch the plane to Iowa.

I know, I've heard the stories, but to see a guy act this classless on the field and not do anything would be a disgrace. If he doesn't, I hope the Big 10 takes action. I read today Hoke crushed him in in-state recruiting this year. I'm a parent and watch how the two teams act on the field, I think I'd be happier sending my kid to play for Hoke. Just my opinion of course.

In other news, Lattimore is in a full leg brace and on crutches going off the field. It would be sad to see a talent like that have his year ruined.

[Atocep]

What the hell Rutgers?

I expected Pitt to lose to Utah (high octane punting!), but you need to pull your heads out of your asses.

[Matthean]

I read today Hoke crushed him in in-state recruiting this year. I'm a parent and watch how the two teams act on the field, I think I'd be happier sending my kid to play for Hoke. Just my opinion of course.

More players and better average rating. Here's all I need to know about Dantonio in terms of recruiting. Michigan is going through it's worst hire and is 0-3 against MSU. Michigan due to it's painfully late switching of coaches is left with 10 commitments 2-3 weeks before signing day. I would say at that point 18 is far more the norm. ND isn't exactly doing much noteworthy. OSU has NCAA speculation swirling. MSU is coming off a co-Big Ten title. If there was ever a chance for MSU to swing in and pull off a quality class, it was last year. Michigan still beat them.

State even up to that point hadn't really surged in terms of recruiting either despite having the free reign. You see games like the bowl game last year and you start to see the sheer difference in talent. It's why I shook my head last year at seeing them split the conference when you watch them play and they came off as rather pedestrian. FYI, Dantonio has yet to win a bowl game with MSU. The local paper said last year that State seems to the team who gets matched up against a highly talented team for their bowl game. This is basically admitting your team isn't really all that talented. I really hope Wisconsin pays them back for that loss last year and buries MSU.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Pick 6 for the Jackets (following a blitz sack on the previous play) ... it's 14-14 in Charlottesville.

[Thomkal]

Coastal Carolina with another fumble. CCU then drops a sure INT in the end zone and Liberty capitalizes and scores another TD on 4th and goal from the 1. Liberty has run 20 plays for 165 yards so far. 21-0 with 4:30 remaining in the 1st quarter.

:::sighs::: Like I said, I didn't think that ranking was very legit. Thanks for the updates.

[mauchow]

Ohio St hockey whupping up on Illinois 3-0 going into intermission.

[hoopsguy]

Yep, the Buckeyes ran the ball on their first 19 plays.

Illini can't get anything going on offense, in part because they keep dropping 3rd down passes.

[Matthean]

OSU vs. Illinois. Combined 1-12 for third down conversions. 6-15 passing for 46 yards. Ladies and gentlemen, Big Ten football. :lol:

[Lathum]

Huskies offense looks awesome and Price is dialed in. 18-22 and 4 TD passes in the first half. His named needs to start being mentioned in Heisman talks.

[hoopsguy]

OSU vs. Illinois. Combined 1-12 for third down conversions. 6-15 passing for 46 yards. Ladies and gentlemen, Big Ten football. :lol:

In fairness, there are 40 mile per hour winds that are dictating some of the playcalling.

[JonInMiddleGA]

GT goes back down 24-14 to UVA at the half.

[M GO BLUE!!!]

Wish I had got to see the game, but had to work. Sounded like State showed what classy winners they are...

Michigan got beat by a better team. State came into this season one of the favorites in the Big Ten. They are an established team with a senior QB and played at home. They are as good as they will ever be.

Michigan is on the way back. Next year should be fun.

[whomario]

back to back kickoff return TDs for Ok.State and Texas !

[General Mike]

I think both look like shit but that's me. UM didn't even announce their jerseys, they just changed into them after warm ups.

I agree. They were both terrible.

[General Mike]

What the hell Rutgers?

I expected Pitt to lose to Utah (high octane punting!), but you need to pull your heads out of your asses.

What? We won. :popcorn: It was ugly, but we won.

[Matthean]

In fairness, there are 40 mile per hour winds that are dictating some of the playcalling.

So that's the excuse to throw it like Robinson does at Michigan? Glad to see Illinois getting exposed though.

[Matthean]

'Bama creating a trend. 3rd play goes for a huge pass play against them. 7-0 Ole Miss.

[Izulde]

41-14 loss to Wyoming. This is why Hauck didn't deserve an extension. Shit, this team is playing WORSE than it did last year and I didn't even think that was possible.

[BYU 14]

The Pac 12 has the worst fucking officials in the country......I hate when we play teams from that fucking conference!!!!!

OSU lineman gets his ass kicked so bad on a TD run it has to be holding, then a PI on what would have been a 1st down on the same drive that somehow gets missed......

[hoopsguy]

So that's the excuse to throw it like Robinson does at Michigan? Glad to see Illinois getting exposed though.

Funny, I felt the same way seeing Wolverines go down today.

[M GO BLUE!!!]

By the way... looking at the highlights (lowlights?) MSU's look today seemed like the St. Louis Rams & Notre Dame's green jerseys were put in a blender

Michigan should never wear the stripes again... (I kinda liked the M on the chest in the Notre Dame game though)

[Matthean]

Funny, I felt the same way seeing Wolverines go down today.

Michigan is who I thought they were. Anybody who saw something else in that team was drinking the Hoke Kool-Aid.

[JonInMiddleGA]

GT looks like The Great Pretenders.

Washington turned into Nesbitt, Virginia appeared to be physically head & shoulders better than a manhandled GT defense. A fucking embarrassment of a performance.

[MrBug708]

Sark is going to be a force at USC in a few years

[Matthean]

Richardson is kind of good. 4th and 2. Wildcat so you know it's a run. He gets hit early, but keeps going forward. Just past the first, he gets gang tackled to where an Ole Miss player leaps onto the pile, but Richardson contiunes to move forward and gets about 7 yards out of it.

[M GO BLUE!!!]

Seems to be a lot of chest thumping by Spartan fans...

Enjoy it! You deserve it today

[Matthean]

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For those who didn't see the punch thrown by Gholston. He missed all of one play.

[MrBug708]

Did they call the offsetting penalty for lifting the guy by his facemask?

[M GO BLUE!!!]

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For those who didn't see the punch thrown by Gholston. He missed all of one play.

In all fairness, we don't know what Lewan was saying to him. I doubt it was "You're doing a great job out here. Keep up the good work!"

[BYU 14]

Finally something that resembles a BYU offense pulling away from Oregon State 38-21!!

[Lathum]

Sark is going to be a force at USC in a few years

I don't know about that. You can recruit here, it is a great area to live, we are undergoing a renovation, and UW is a destination job when you are winning here. He has us rolling right now with the kids he is bring in and will have this group competing for a PAC 12 title in a couple of years. Not sure he leaves all that for a USC reclamation project.

[bhlloy]

Damn, what a missed call in the Florida-Auburn game. The Auburn player bumps into the Florida player calling a fair catch and they don't call the interference, Auburn ball.

[Matthean]

Michigan State defensive coordinator Pat Narduzzi couldn't get too mad about the six 15-yard penalties called on the Spartans for some form of unnecessary roughness Saturday. "That's what we try to do," Narduzzi said after Michigan State's 28-14 win against Michigan. "Sixty minutes of unnecessary roughness. I'm just happy it didn't get called on every snap."

I get at what he is saying, it's just poorly worded.

Michigan State Spartans defeat Michigan Wolverines four straight years - Andy Staples - SI.com (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/andy_staples/10/15/michigan.state.michigan/index.html?eref=sihp&sct=hp_t12_a2)

[Matthean]

Ole Miss might not be good, but 'Bama is steamrolling them and almost put up 59 points with a final TD from their 4th string back. They will end up just shy of 400 yards rushing. 'Bama vs. Tenn and LSU vs. Auburn. Bye week for both and then all hell breaks loose.

[sterlingice]

I predict our game with Oklahoma this week will not be pretty

SI

[Matthean]

No love for the Clemson/Maryland game? 38-35 Maryland in the 4th.

[tarcone]

Iowa leads 34-24 in the 4th. Its been back and forth in the 2nd half. Iowa led 17-7 at half time.

[tarcone]

NW burns all 3 TOs after a failed onside kick attempt with 4:35 left. Iowa is on NWs 4th and 1. We go for it and QB Vandenberg rushes 15 yards for a TD. Iowa 41-24. Im so happy to beat NW. They are a thron in our side.

[tarcone]

oops. Not a TD. Vandenberg down at the 1. 1st and goal.

[tarcone]

Coker 1 yard rush for a TD. NOW its 41-24.

[sterlingice]

K-State and Texas Tech with a fun game, too

SI

[tarcone]

41-31, Iowa. NW wont give up.

[MrBug708]

I don't know about that. You can recruit here, it is a great area to live, we are undergoing a renovation, and UW is a destination job when you are winning here. He has us rolling right now with the kids he is bring in and will have this group competing for a PAC 12 title in a couple of years. Not sure he leaves all that for a USC reclamation project.

USC will never be a reclamation project

[Matthean]

Seems to be a lot of chest thumping by Spartan fans...

Enjoy it! You deserve it today

As much as I despise being a Michigan fan as of late, MSU deserves credit for being a team that beats the mediocre teams that they are suppose to, which tends to go against their previous history. I just wish Michigan wasn't one of them. :rant: It will be interesting to see where Michigan goes from here. 2-3 isn't that out of the question. Purdue is the only really gimmie from here on out. I expected next to nothing from this season though. I just wish I didn't have to keep drinking the brain bleach. :lol:

[Lathum]

USC will never be a reclamation project

Really? They were pretty average in the years before Pete got there. They got really good in the early 2000's but in the 90's they were pretty average to below average. People at one point probably said the same thing about Miami, Florida State, Michigan, etc...

[DeToxRox]

http://gif.mocksession.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/RICHARDSON-JUKE.gif

[MrBug708]

Really? They were pretty average in the years before Pete got there. They got really good in the early 2000's but in the 90's they were pretty average to below average. People at one point probably said the same thing about Miami, Florida State, Michigan, etc...

USC was in a BCS game in Carroll's second year, after being average for the better part of two decades. Those down years were due to poor coaching, not lack of talent

[Thomkal]

Liberty went up 42-0 at one point, Coastal cut it to 42-21 early in the 3rd quarter, and then Liberty put it away 63-27. Nearly the exact opposite of last year's game between the two teams.

Liberty is now 4-3, their losses are to FBS NC State and two 3 point losses to top 15 teams. Liberty has 1 remaining game that could trip them up, the final week at Stony Brook. A win there should leave them 8-3 and taking their first trip to the FCS playoffs.

Yep that should decide the Big South, but going all the way up to Stony Brook is never easy. Coastal will likely beat everybody else on its schedule, other than the Stony Brook game, but this loss knocked them out of a playoff chance I'm pretty sure.

[Lathum]

USC was in a BCS game in Carroll's second year, after being average for the better part of two decades. Those down years were due to poor coaching, not lack of talent

How does that change the fact that someone still had to come in there and rescue them from mediocrity? The thought that a program can't ever been a reclimation project just because they have name recognition is silly. How many people do you see lining up for the Ohio State job?

[MrBug708]

How does that change the fact that someone still had to come in there and rescue them from mediocrity? The thought that a program can't ever been a reclimation project just because they have name recognition is silly. How many people do you see lining up for the Ohio State job?

Nothing to do with silliness. UW needed to improve their talent as well as get a new coach. USC just needed a coach. There is a huge difference

[mauchow]

Michigan St hosting Gameday vs Wisconsin. Should be a good game!! Hoping Badgers by 20+.

[Matthean]

Michigan St hosting Gameday vs Wisconsin. Should be a good game!! Hoping Badgers by 20+.

Please do. I find MSU merely to be a decent team and part of me hating them as of late is them being far more rewarded than I feel they deserve, see last year co-Big Ten champs, MSU fans justifying top 5 ranking, and possible title game. The defense is horribly overrated this year as ND did rather well against it and Michigan isn't equipped yet to expose it either. If one is willing to play physical defense against them, MSU becomes rather tame. They are a top 15 team at best and should be shredded by an elite team. Wisconsin should be out for blood since Wisconsin could have made an argument for being in the title game if they had beaten State. I'll never understand why State won that game.

[DeToxRox]

Please do. I find MSU merely to be a decent team and part of me hating them as of late is them being far more rewarded than I feel they deserve, see last year co-Big Ten champs, MSU fans justifying top 5 ranking, and possible title game. The defense is horribly overrated this year as ND did rather well against it and Michigan isn't equipped yet to expose it either. If one is willing to play physical defense against them, MSU becomes rather tame. They are a top 15 team at best and should be shredded by an elite team. Wisconsin should be out for blood since Wisconsin could have made an argument for being in the title game if they had beaten State. I'll never understand why State won that game.

They won because Bielima inexplicably gave up on the run in the third quarter.

[M GO BLUE!!!]

Michigan only dropped to #17? I think they should have dropped out of the top 25 after losing to State.

[mauchow]

They won because Bielima inexplicably gave up on the run in the third quarter.

Lots of injuries in that game - namely Toon one of them.

[tarcone]

That juke in the video looks like something out of EAs NCAA football.

[BishopMVP]

http://gif.mocksession.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/RICHARDSON-JUKE.gifI make more than my share of bad predictions (particularly related to Notre Dame ;) ), so I'll take credit for this one after seeing Richardson touch the ball 11 times vs. Arkansas back on 9/28/09Speaking of highly-touted running back prospects coming out of SEC country - Trent Richardson of Alabama. Wow. It's almost certainly jumping the gun, but I'm driving that bandwagon. He's the best back I've seen since, well, 2 years ago when AP was still in school.

[Butter]

No love for the Clemson/Maryland game? 38-35 Maryland in the 4th.

Sammy Watkins 4 Heisman. Change my username now. (OK, don't actually do it.)

Clemson was behind 35-17 early in the 3rd, and came back to win 56-45. They can score virtually at will when they are on their game. Reminding me of Oregon from last season.

I knew that was going to be a tough matchup, any ACC road game (except maybe Duke) is always tough, especially for Clemson. But they pulled it out and if they can avoid the overlook vs. UNC next week, are setting up for an epic road game at Georgia Tech in a couple of weeks.

[Matthean]

I make more than my share of bad predictions (particularly related to Notre Dame ;) ), so I'll take credit for this one after seeing Richardson touch the ball 11 times vs. Arkansas back on 9/28/09

Part of the problem with putting a Mount Rushmore together for 'Bama is I feel like Ingram should be on there by default and yet Richardson to me is the better player. Hell, at some point one could just make a Saban version of it. :lol:

Sammy Watkins 4 Heisman. Change my username now. (OK, don't actually do it.)

Clemson was behind 35-17 early in the 3rd, and came back to win 56-45. They can score virtually at will when they are on their game. Reminding me of Oregon from last season.

I knew that was going to be a tough matchup, any ACC road game (except maybe Duke) is always tough, especially for Clemson. But they pulled it out and if they can avoid the overlook vs. UNC next week, are setting up for an epic road game at Georgia Tech in a couple of weeks.

I want to like Clemson, but their D isn't strong enough to contend for a title. If they don't make the title game and they are undefeated, I can see why.