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spleen1015
01-24-2012, 09:23 AM
I'm rooting for the Giants. I would rather see Eli get another ring instead of Brady. I think it would be pretty special for Brady to get another ring and get into the record books, but he can do that next year. :D

Here is an article about Peyton Manning. He's talked to Bob Kravitz last night and gave some insight into what's going on with him and the Colts.

http://www.indystar.com/article/20120124/SPORTS15/120124015/Peyton-Manning-Irsay-not-Grigson-will-decide-his-future-Colts

Rizon
01-24-2012, 10:14 AM
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz ... for the SB. What about the commercials???

gstelmack
01-24-2012, 10:16 AM
Expecting a good game. As a Pats fan, the Giants defense scares me. If it comes down to a tight 4th quarter, I fully expect Eli to pull another late-drive miracle out, but if the Pats can get up 10 or 14 points by the middle of the fourth, I'll be happier.

NorvTurnerOverdrive
01-24-2012, 10:28 AM
i love eli. you look at those bambi eyes and think, 'there's nothing goin on in there.'

and yet, here we are. again.

Lathum
01-24-2012, 10:42 AM
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz ... for the SB. What about the commercials???

What matchup would have made you happy?

Take away the team names and you have great matchups and players. An awesome pass rush against arguably the greates QB ever. A tight end no one can stop ( i realize he may be hurt), 2 electric receivers, a great over the middle receiver, a QB who has kept his team in games and led multiple exciting 4th quarter comebacks, 1 coach who is for sure a hall of famer and another likely going.

What is there to not like? Would you have rather seen the Harbaugh bowl again?

Butter
01-24-2012, 10:43 AM
I don't get the hate for this matchup. I think it is going to be a really good game.

sterlingice
01-24-2012, 11:10 AM
I'm going to take advantage of it being here and go to Media Day and the NFL Experience early next week

SI

Scoobz0202
01-24-2012, 11:16 AM
What matchup would have made you happy?

Take away the team names and you have great matchups and players. An awesome pass rush against arguably the greates QB ever. A tight end no one can stop ( i realize he may be hurt), 2 electric receivers, a great over the middle receiver, a QB who has kept his team in games and led multiple exciting 4th quarter comebacks, 1 coach who is for sure a hall of famer and another likely going.

What is there to not like? Would you have rather seen the Harbaugh bowl again?

For me, it stems from what somebody mentioned I believe on this forum. Was a great season of the unexpected. Bengals. Lions (Not too shocked but were fun to watch). 49ers. AFC West. A lot of new blood. And then at the end. The same old boys in the Super Bowl. Just a disappointing ending. And you can't really take the team names away (im a cowboys fan :( )

Oh, and speaking for me, I really wanted the 49ers to win because I wanted to see that defense take on that Patriots offense.

Rizon
01-24-2012, 11:17 AM
What matchup would have made you happy?



Anything but NY and Boston. And I hate the Pats.

Ronnie Dobbs2
01-24-2012, 11:26 AM
First time in my life I've ever seen Tom Coughlin referred to as a likely HOFer.

Wasn't he about to get fired a few weeks ago?

edit: not saying he doesn't belong, per se, just that the turnaround is quick and I've never thought about it before.

Arles
01-24-2012, 11:29 AM
What matchup would have made you happy?

Take away the team names and you have great matchups and players. An awesome pass rush against arguably the greates QB ever. A tight end no one can stop ( i realize he may be hurt), 2 electric receivers, a great over the middle receiver, a QB who has kept his team in games and led multiple exciting 4th quarter comebacks, 1 coach who is for sure a hall of famer and another likely going.

What is there to not like? Would you have rather seen the Harbaugh bowl again?
Non NY/Boston fans tire of the eat coast championship games. That said, I think this should be a pretty interesting matchup.

From a gambling standpoint, a lot of action on the Giants. I got in on NY at +3 (+105 juice) and now it's +3, but -125. I wouldn't be surprised to see the line move to 2.5 or even 2 by the end of the week.

Crapshoot
01-24-2012, 11:31 AM
Rooting for the Pats this time around. :D

MIJB#19
01-24-2012, 11:45 AM
The playoffs, overall, resulted in many close and exciting games. Given which teams made the playoffs this year, this is about the 5th best matchup possibly. I think I preferred the Saints or Packers versus the Ravens or Steelers, but Giants vs Patriots will do.. I'll like these more than, say, Patriots vs Packers or Patriots vs Saints. Heck, any game not involving the Bengals or Broncos, or maybe the Falcons would have been a good matchup.

Kodos
01-24-2012, 11:52 AM
Rooting for the Giants, of course. Stick it to the Pats again, Manning!

Rizon
01-24-2012, 11:57 AM
What matchup would have made you happy?

Take away the team names and you have great matchups and players. An awesome pass rush against arguably the greates QB ever. A tight end no one can stop ( i realize he may be hurt), 2 electric receivers, a great over the middle receiver, a QB who has kept his team in games and led multiple exciting 4th quarter comebacks, 1 coach who is for sure a hall of famer and another likely going.

What is there to not like? Would you have rather seen the Harbaugh bowl again?

Granted, 2/3 of NFL teams are on the east side, but still ...
Super Bowls since 2000:

And the Seachickens, Redbird Chickens and Ghetto Chickens had no chance in hell of winning.

Just a bone throw a little more often would be cool.

BillJasper
01-24-2012, 12:01 PM
Tell the West Coast teams to play better then. :lol:

johnnyshaka
01-24-2012, 12:03 PM
No more Flere Diagrams...but could we be seeing the first instalment of Rizon's Google Map Sketches?

BillJasper
01-24-2012, 12:06 PM
Though this is probably why the NFL needs to look at a Western/Eastern Conference setup at some point in the future...

Rizon
01-24-2012, 12:06 PM
Tell the West Coast teams to play better then. :lol:

No more Flere Diagrams...but could we be seeing the first instalment of Rizon's Google Map Sketches?

Let me clear this up then:

http://i.imgur.com/5cE34.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/TVKdY.jpg

Rizon
01-24-2012, 12:14 PM
...
http://i.imgur.com/1PsfI.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/4432y.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/HpWmS.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/6UGom.jpg

spleen1015
01-24-2012, 12:15 PM
I don't get the 'small old teams' argument.

The last time either of these 2 teams were in the Super Bowl was 4 years ago.

Packers beat the Steelers last year. Did you want them?
Saints beat the Colts the year before that. Did you want the Saints?
Steelers beat the Seahawks in 2008. Want the Steelers?

I don't see how folks can say this is a boring matchup. Both teams have the ability to march down the field and put up lots of points. We're going to see a 34-31 final. It is going to be a good game to see a lot of big plays, IMO.

BillJasper
01-24-2012, 12:16 PM
I'm torn on who to pick in this game...

I'd pick the Patriots but two words scare me to death: Julian Edelman.

If I'm the Giants, I'd have audibles that target him everytime he's on the field on defense. Toss sweeps, screens, slants and go deep. I'd have Nicks, Cruz or a TE line up across from him every play. I'd wear him out, force Belichick to give him help, opening up other areas of the field or take him out.

Autumn
01-24-2012, 12:28 PM
No more Flere Diagrams...but could we be seeing the first instalment of Rizon's Google Map Sketches?

+1

bronconick
01-24-2012, 12:40 PM
I don't get the 'small old teams' argument.

The last time either of these 2 teams were in the Super Bowl was 4 years ago.

Packers beat the Steelers last year. Did you want them?
Saints beat the Colts the year before that. Did you want the Saints?
Steelers beat the Seahawks in 2008. Want the Steelers?

I don't see how folks can say this is a boring matchup. Both teams have the ability to march down the field and put up lots of points. We're going to see a 34-31 final. It is going to be a good game to see a lot of big plays, IMO.

Wanted the Cardinals in 2008 and Saints to win as they hadn't before. Leaned toward GB last year because of Greg Jennings, no Favre, and I had forgotten how farking annoying Packer fans were, which I re-learned this season.

I think it's meh because just four years ago it was the unstoppable 18-0 Patriots against the plucky underdog Wild Card Giants. What's this year's storyline? Whatever it is, it's nowhere near as interesting as a 18-0 team.

Rizon
01-24-2012, 12:46 PM
I think it's meh because just four years ago it was the unstoppable 18-0 Patriots against the plucky underdog Wild Card Giants. What's this year's storyline? Whatever it is, it's nowhere near as interesting as a 18-0 team.

It's redemption for the NY/Boston area as they look to end their 1 season championship dry spell ... and maybe reach their 900th hockey, NFL, MLB and NBA championship in the last 10 years.

NorvTurnerOverdrive
01-24-2012, 12:47 PM
What's this year's storyline?
didn't you get the memo?

eli better than peyton?
eli better than brady?
brady/belichek better than walsh/montana?
what's david tyree up to nowadays?

these are important questions!

molson
01-24-2012, 01:31 PM
Great matchup, and possibly a developing rivalry. I know the NFL wants to push parity and It's sad to me that they're right, that's what fans what. They want different teams to be good every year with no year-to-year continuity. I think that would suck, but I guess I'm in the minority on that I can't believe so many people would be so cool with Harbaugh family retrospectives and the constant family shots in the crowd. That's fine for a single regular season game but it would be nauseating and repetitive for a super bowl.

As for the game, I'm fired up the Pats are there, but I do see Brady with one or two picks, a offense that is slowed down by the giants, and tons of yards through the air for the Giants. Something like 30-20 Giants would be my guess, but if a few plays go the other way, it could easily be a big Pats win as well.

EagleFan
01-24-2012, 01:36 PM
Football season is over... Unless I have a chance of winning the SB block pool.

molson
01-24-2012, 01:38 PM
What's this year's storyline?

Somebody pointed out some storylines for this year, but if you're really into storylines, doesn't new super bowl teams every make it much more difficult to develop those storylines? When teams win, have success over time, stars are born, legends grow, that's where the storylines develop. Let's say we got the crazy random super bowl that the board wants, I don't know - Texans v. Falcons. And then the next year it's Chargers v. Saints. Then the year after that it's Ravens v. Cardinals. Then Jets v. Bears. Is that kind of thing really conducive to storylines? It just comes off as random and arbitrary to me. I want to see upstart teams rise up, and then either fall apart, or reach their peak. Then they have a window of greatness, which eventually closes. I mean, those are natural kind of stories that are developed. Yes, Brady was great very early, and the Patriots are a very well-run organization, so their window is longer than most, but even they don't win every year. (and why, it what universe, would that universe be closed already, still in Brady's prime?) And by now, we know them, we know the stories going in, a 10-year story is going to have a lot more wrinkles and ups and downs than having a 1-year flash in the pan every year.

Football in the 80s and 90s was fun because you had these kind of storylines. The Giants and 49ers in heavyweight-fight type games, the Cowboys rising from the ashes before being dethroned by Green Bay, and then the Colts/Patiots stuff last decade. I mean, you get a sense of the history of football when you have great teams with some kind of consistent success facing each other. I'm glad the Colts and the Patriots got to play all those times, that's a storyline if I ever saw one, and football history would be a lot less interesting if we only had one Manning/Brady playoff game, and instead everybody else in the conference cycled through those games and those playoff appearances equally.

ColtCrazy
01-24-2012, 01:42 PM
My burning question is wondering if my principal will get mad if I use all 3 of my personal days next week to hang out in Indy. I'm really looking forward to hanging out and seeing the fanfare, getting some autographs, and just enjoying the moment. As for the game, honestly, I probably won't watch it. I just don't enjoy watching the Patriots play football. If they win, so be it, but it's like trying to watch a Kentucky basketball game. I like IU, don't like Kentucky, why would I want to watch them play? Looks like I'll have to dive into Skyrim to keep me from checking the score.

As for the Manning issue, that'll definitely be on my mind while I'm around Indy. I'll wear my Manning jersey and scope out any other Colts' fans on the ledges around downtown. His comments definitely make me feel what Kravitz said...he seems at peace with it. Manning has done so much for this town. Hell, I've been a season ticket holder through the Jeff George years, Lindy Infante, Ron Meyer, Gary Hogeboom, 1-15....we may never see another Manning again in this town. I'm bummed about it, but I think I'm going to have to get over it and realize the change will be absolute.

Matthean
01-24-2012, 06:27 PM
Chicago Bears' Brian Urlacher gets shots, would lie to stay on field - ESPN Chicago (http://espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/story/_/id/7497340/chicago-bears-brian-urlacher-gets-shots-lie-stay-field)

Desnudo
01-25-2012, 12:34 AM
I'm torn on who to pick in this game...

I'd pick the Patriots but two words scare me to death: Julian Edelman.

If I'm the Giants, I'd have audibles that target him everytime he's on the field on defense. Toss sweeps, screens, slants and go deep. I'd have Nicks, Cruz or a TE line up across from him every play. I'd wear him out, force Belichick to give him help, opening up other areas of the field or take him out.

Why bother? Just throw at their starting CBs.

I'm suprised the Patriots are favored in this one actually. The only way the Patriots win is if Wilfork and co. can collapse the pocket and they actually stick with the run for long enough to burn some clock (which they never do). I think the Vegas line is an ode to brand power rather than talent levels.

Vince, Pt. II
01-25-2012, 12:50 AM
Despite the fact that I'm still bitter about last weekend, I think this will be a very good game.

sterlingice
01-25-2012, 05:49 AM
Of all the people in the baseball thread, you guys all know how I hate the NY-BOS thing, but I'm actually fine with this matchup. Different sport, different economics (tho some of the same douchey fans). I find the Giants kindof boring, frankly, and was hoping for the 49ers. They were one of the good stories from this year and I wanted to Pats offense vs the 49ers defense angle. But this one is fine- nothing special but not bad either.

Also, I feel a little cheated out of the Packers not making it. Rather than choking, it seems like they'll join the 1998 Vikings in the pantheon of "best teams to not make the Super Bowl" because of injuries. But in this year of offense, I'd love to have had a Pats vs Packers/Saints crazy scoring game.

SI

BlackJack
01-25-2012, 03:45 PM
Of all the people in the baseball thread, you guys all know how I hate the NY-BOS thing, but I'm actually fine with this matchup. Different sport, different economics (tho some of the same douchey fans). I find the Giants kindof boring, frankly, and was hoping for the 49ers. They were one of the good stories from this year and I wanted to Pats offense vs the 49ers defense angle. But this one is fine- nothing special but not bad either.

Also, I feel a little cheated out of the Packers not making it. Rather than choking, it seems like they'll join the 1998 Vikings in the pantheon of "best teams to not make the Super Bowl" because of injuries. But in this year of offense, I'd love to have had a Pats vs Packers/Saints crazy scoring game.

SI

In all seriousness, what injuries did the Packers have? I know last year they had tons and won it all. What were the big injuries that caused them to lose at home by 17 points. After receiving several gifts from the refs, mind you

dzilla77
01-25-2012, 03:59 PM
I'm going to take advantage of it being here and go to Media Day and the NFL Experience early next week

SI

Definitely worth it - went to these events when it was in Detroit a few years ago and had a blast.

ColtCrazy
01-25-2012, 06:16 PM
Well, I have next Tuesday and Friday off to go up to Indy. Media Day fix are sold out, but getting ready to get my NFL experience tickets. Still considering a third day. Principal seemed to frown on the 2 I did take, but luckily the stomach bug is going around school. Maybe I'll catch it! ;)

sterlingice
01-25-2012, 07:42 PM
Well, I have next Tuesday and Friday off to go up to Indy. Media Day fix are sold out, but getting ready to get my NFL experience tickets. Still considering a third day. Principal seemed to frown on the 2 I did take, but luckily the stomach bug is going around school. Maybe I'll catch it! ;)

Stubhub has Media Day tickets for $32 aka what it cost me once the ticketmaster "screw you" fee was tacked on. You then have to add on the stubhub "screw you" fee but it's totally doable.

SI

kingfc22
01-25-2012, 09:18 PM
I'd rather see Brady get #4 and absolutely cement his legacy as one of the greatest, but my mind says the Giants will win as they are balanced on offense and defense.

DaddyTorgo
01-25-2012, 09:35 PM
I dunno - I can see a path to victory for the Pats.

Everyone is talking about the Giants pass rush, but what if the Pats get a favorable (to them) set of defensive personnel on the field and just go hurry-up and rip up the field and exploit some of the TE/LB coverages or pick on some of the corners?

Vince, Pt. II
01-25-2012, 10:27 PM
I think I'm leaning Patriots. I've been leaning against the Giants every round in the playoffs though, so what do I know.

jbergey22
01-26-2012, 01:14 AM
I think it will be a fine game.

I just have in my memory of how pathetic the Giants were looking a little ways past midseason(losing 4 straight and 5 out of 6). Kind of hard imagine them being in this situation.

Wish the Giants would just go out and dominate the regular season one of these years they end up making the Super Bowl.

My two top choices were ended because of the Giants and they earned it but I would have liked to have seen
1. Packers vs Pats
2. Ravens vs 49ers

Packers/Pats kind of had that dream matchup feel to me if it would have happened. The old dynasty vs the potential new dynasty with a potential passing of the guard at QB matchup.

BishopMVP
01-26-2012, 02:52 AM
In all seriousness, what injuries did the Packers have?O-Line.What's this year's storyline?Which kid that lived in a dorm with me gets a ring? ;) As a (well now that we're in the MAC I guess ex-) FCS/1AA fan, it's pretty awesome to have probable starters (Cruz /Ihedigbo) on both sides of the ball. And it makes me feel a lot better about the beatings they used to give me in pick-up basketball :lol: Why bother? Just throw at their starting CBs.

I'm suprised the Patriots are favored in this one actually. The only way the Patriots win is if Wilfork and co. can collapse the pocket and they actually stick with the run for long enough to burn some clock (which they never do). I think the Vegas line is an ode to brand power rather than talent levels.True enough on defense, particularly if Arrington is hobbled. (And btw, the fact I care about a 2nd year UFA's health is testament to how dire it is.) I also don't want to say Edelman (or, god forbid, Slater) has been good in man to man, but clearly zone and pick routes are the bigger issue. On offense, we've basically patented the ball control WCO, and depending how the Giants match up vs our 1 TE/1 slot receiver/1 hybrid (Hernandez) I could see a lot of 4-6 yard WR screens that control the clock. (BTW, I would be more worried about Gronk's ankle if I was convinced he was a human being.)

OldGiants
01-26-2012, 07:23 AM
I live amongst Foreskins fans (the least sports-knowledgeable group of fans east of the Mississippi by a wide margin) and I've pointed out to several of them that Washington's past season was totally irrelevant to determining who got in the Super Bowl this season. The few games they won did not prevent the Giants from both winning the division and reaching the SB, while they won just enough to not be in the Luck-lottery. None of Washington's games mattered at all, their fans could have saved their time and money and stuck to NASCAR.

I can't think of another season in which one team's wins did not prevent anyone from advancing, and their loses did not 'bless' another team with a playoff spot that they otherwise would have earned.

Any examples I've missed?

Ksyrup
01-26-2012, 07:32 AM
Are you just going off of memory, or did you do research on that point? Because I can't imagine being able to think through, after a season, every team's schedule to figure out after the fact what each win/loss might have meant to another team. It wouldn't shock me to find out that happens fairly regularly, but I have no idea. Maybe it's just an oddity this one time.

Either way, I don't think I've ever thought of it, let alone kept track of it.

RomaGoth
01-26-2012, 10:06 AM
My two top choices were ended because of the Giants and they earned it but I would have liked to have seen
1. Packers vs Pats
2. Ravens vs 49ers



Remember that turkey you ate on Thanksgiving? Well, you were watching this game while eating that bird.

Oh, and the Ravens won 16-6. ;)

Rizon
01-26-2012, 10:15 AM
Interesting, if I did my math right:

No 16-0 team has ever won the Suberbowl
Only 2 of 5 15-1 teams have ever won the SB, the last being the 85 Bears
And I think 7 of 17 14-2 teams have won the SB, last being 04 Pats

If you win 14 or more games, you only have a 41% chance of winning the SB.

Winning = losing!

sterlingice
01-26-2012, 11:45 AM
Interesting, if I did my math right:

No 16-0 team has ever won the Suberbowl
Only 2 of 5 15-1 teams have ever won the SB, the last being the 85 Bears
And I think 7 of 17 14-2 teams have won the SB, last being 04 Pats

If you win 14 or more games, you only have a 41% chance of winning the SB.

Winning = losing!

Not exactly. Care to do the math for all the 13-3, 12-4, all the way down to 7-9(?) teams? I bet those top ones still have a better winning percentage (tho, yes 16-0 is 0 for 1).

It's still a 12 team winner-take-all tourney. Even with a bye, you have to win 3 games in a row. Your odds aren't great.

SI

sterlingice
01-26-2012, 11:48 AM
O-Line.

What he said.

SI

Pyser
01-26-2012, 11:55 AM
I think it will be a fine game.

I just have in my memory of how pathetic the Giants were looking a little ways past midseason(losing 4 straight and 5 out of 6). Kind of hard imagine them being in this situation.

yeah, they looked really pathetic losing to the 15-1 packers, the 13-3 49ers, and the 13-3 saints in those games.

Rizon
01-26-2012, 12:04 PM
Care to do the math for all the 13-3, 12-4, all the way down to 7-9(?) teams?

SI

Maybe later on today I'll do it.

jbergey22
01-26-2012, 02:04 PM
Remember that turkey you ate on Thanksgiving? Well, you were watching this game while eating that bird.

Oh, and the Ravens won 16-6. ;)

Completely forgot about that game. Thanks for the reminder. Yeah, I dont think we need to watch that rematch.

jbergey22
01-26-2012, 02:07 PM
yeah, they looked really pathetic losing to the 15-1 packers, the 13-3 49ers, and the 13-3 saints in those games.

It wasnt who they lost to it was that they appeared to quit a couple of times.

They were 9-7 scoring 394 giving up 400 points in the regular season. I realize they are a much better team right now but their regular season resume was poor for a super bowl team. I wonder if a team has ever won the Super Bowl when getting outscored in the regular season?

Ronnie Dobbs2
01-26-2012, 02:18 PM
Giants are first team to ever get to a Super Bowl being outscored in the regular season.

jbergey22
01-26-2012, 02:32 PM
Giants are first team to ever get to a Super Bowl being outscored in the regular season.

This makes Tuck's comments a little more laughable IMO. He's saying that no one is giving his team a chance when in reality it seems a lot more people are giving his team a chance than they maybe even deserve.

MIJB#19
01-26-2012, 02:44 PM
Maybe later on today I'll do it.I'm on it. ;)
16-0 - 0/1 (0%)
15-1 - 2/5 (40%)
14-2 - 7/19 (37%)
13-3 - 7/34 (21%) excl 2011 Patriots
12-4 - 9/63 (14%)
11-5 - 3/78 (4%)
10-6 - 3/106 (3%)
9-7 - 0/112 (0%) excl 2011 Giants
8-8 or worse - 0/507 (0%)

Playoffs only:
16-0 - 0/1 (0%)
15-1 - 2/5 (40%)
14-2 - 7/19 (37%)
13-3 - 7/34 (21%) excl 2011 Patriots
12-4 - 9/63 (14%)
11-5 - 3/76 (4%)
10-6 - 3/89 (3%)
9-7 - 0/55 (0%) excl 2011 Giants
8-8 - 0/10 (0%)
7-9 - 0/1 (0%)

This only includes seasons with a 16-game schedule (1978-2011 minus 1987 (15 games), and 1982 (9 games)).

Ronnie Dobbs2
01-26-2012, 03:03 PM
Might be slow, but 2 16-0 teams?

QuikSand
01-26-2012, 03:05 PM
16-0 - 0/2 (0%)

:confused:

QuikSand
01-26-2012, 03:06 PM
...might have been that team of Mini Ditkas. I don't think anyone ever beat them.

MIJB#19
01-26-2012, 03:11 PM
Do I look silly now. That was suppoed to be 0/1. Double checked it, the rest is as it should be. :D

Fixed it above.

Passacaglia
01-26-2012, 03:12 PM
Do I look silly now. That was suppoed to be 0/1. Double checked it, the rest is as it should be. :D

Fixed it above.

You forgot to change the percentage, it's still the same.

MIJB#19
01-26-2012, 03:15 PM
You forgot to change the percentage, it's still the same.* throw shoe *

Rizon
01-26-2012, 03:34 PM
I'm on it. ;)
16-0 - 0/1 (0%)
15-1 - 2/5 (40%)
14-2 - 7/19 (37%)
13-3 - 7/34 (21%) excl 2011 Patriots
12-4 - 9/63 (14%)
11-5 - 3/78 (4%)
10-6 - 3/106 (3%)
9-7 - 0/112 (0%) excl 2011 Giants
8-8 or worse - 0/507 (0%)

Playoffs only:
16-0 - 0/1 (0%)
15-1 - 2/5 (40%)
14-2 - 7/19 (37%)
13-3 - 7/34 (21%) excl 2011 Patriots
12-4 - 9/63 (14%)
11-5 - 3/76 (4%)
10-6 - 3/89 (3%)
9-7 - 0/55 (0%) excl 2011 Giants
8-8 - 0/10 (0%)
7-9 - 0/1 (0%)

This only includes seasons with a 16-game schedule (1978-2011 minus 1987 (15 games), and 1982 (9 games)).

Thanks! I looked at the stats and was like ughghhghgh I don't wanna do this ...

PraetorianX
01-26-2012, 04:29 PM
Personally, I'm really hoping that the Giants can win this one. As a Colts fan, I'd hate to have Brady and the Pats win #4 in our house.

sterlingice
01-31-2012, 08:01 PM
Yesterday, we hit up the village (before it opened), NFL Experience, and then village after dark. Today, we saw Media Day. Pictures are attached but in spoiler text

Monday - Around Town

Letters at Monument Circle
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y268/sterlingice/2012%20Super%20Bowl/IMG_4875.jpg

Super Bowl Team Indy Cars
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y268/sterlingice/2012%20Super%20Bowl/IMG_4895.jpg

JW Marriott (Media Hotel for Super Bowl)
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y268/sterlingice/2012%20Super%20Bowl/IMG_4898.jpg

Downtown at the Village
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y268/sterlingice/2012%20Super%20Bowl/IMG_4905.jpg

Zipline above Super Bowl Village
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Monday NFL Experience



Making a Football
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Super Bowl Footballs
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Player Lockers
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NFL Command Center (Officials)
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Super Bowl Rings
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Lombardi Trophy
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Monday Evening

Crowds as we left
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View down Georgia Street
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Concerts
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Media Day Assorted Pictures


Lucas Oil Stadium
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Lucas Oil Stadium Suites
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Lucas Oil Stadium Interior
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Whole field view
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This crazy dude
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This crazy dude again
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NFL Network at work
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Media Day - Patriots


Patriots Hexabox
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Bill Belichick
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Blue Foam Fingers
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Tom Brady
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Japanese Interview
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Wes Welker in a silly hat
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Kissing a reporter
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Media Day - Giants


Giants Hexabox
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Tom Coughlin
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Random Interview
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Justin Tuck
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Nicktoons Interview
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Giants Team Picture
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End of Media Day
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SI

cartman
01-31-2012, 08:11 PM
70 degrees today in Dallas. I bet Jerry is shaking his fist at the sky wondering where this weather was last year for Super Bowl week.

spleen1015
01-31-2012, 08:18 PM
70 degrees today in Dallas. I bet Jerry is shaking his fist at the sky wondering where this weather was last year for Super Bowl week.

Karma.

sterlingice
01-31-2012, 08:22 PM
60 here today. 4th warmest last day of January on record, according to the news. Ridiculously good weather

SI

ColtCrazy
01-31-2012, 09:35 PM
Did my first of two days in Indy for the NFL experience. Great weather, good crowd. Indy really did a good job getting things ready. The NFL experience is a blast. Lots of great games for the adults and kids. Night time crowd was really packed. Only disappointment was my autograph hunt. The big 2 today were Pierre Garcon and Von Miller. They were both at the same time, so I went with Miller since I've met Garcon before but the Miller session was not an autograph session but a kids only play 60 event. No biggie. I'll be back Friday with my son and my dad. Think my son is going to love doing all the competitions. No way I'm doing the zip line though..much higher than I thought it'd be!!!

Grover
01-31-2012, 11:11 PM
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Vn0-_kjG5Aw" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

You're welcome.

spleen1015
02-01-2012, 05:50 AM
I love you Chunk!

molson
02-01-2012, 09:09 AM
I watched that video and I thought, "damn, I hope that guy has expressed himself on video regarding a variety of other topics that interest me", and it turns out HE HAS! He has an entire portfolio of video opinions.

stevew
02-01-2012, 09:26 AM
He has an opinion to asshole ratio that far exceeds 1:1

Arles
02-02-2012, 11:50 AM
I predicted the New England - Baltimore score exactly two weeks ago. Here's my blog on the GDS forums predicting the score for the big game, as well as 7 props to consider:

GDSBlog: New York vs. New England - Super Bowl! - Grey Dog Software (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1744637#post1744637)

spleen1015
02-02-2012, 12:01 PM
I predicted the New England - Baltimore score exactly two weeks ago. Here's my blog on the GDS forums predicting the score for the big game, as well as 7 props to consider:

GDSBlog: New York vs. New England - Super Bowl! - Grey Dog Software (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1744637#post1744637)

Concerning your first prop pet, something I heard on the radio the other day, ever since Brady has returned from his knee injury, the Patriots have deferred every time they have won the toss.

jbergey22
02-02-2012, 01:36 PM
I predicted the New England - Baltimore score exactly two weeks ago. Here's my blog on the GDS forums predicting the score for the big game, as well as 7 props to consider:

GDSBlog: New York vs. New England - Super Bowl! - Grey Dog Software (http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1744637#post1744637)


As far as the Ware no TD prop goes. Does he need to have a carry for that bet to be legit? Sportsbooks can be tricky in their wording. Sometimes they will say(must play) which some books will say means he has to have a carry.

Arles
02-02-2012, 02:28 PM
Good question, I was using bookmaker and no carries are required. If you do find dodgy wording, you can also go for the under 2 carries bet. It's better odds (-145) and he hasn't had a carry since Bradshaw's been back (mid Dec).

Arles
02-02-2012, 02:55 PM
Concerning your first prop pet, something I heard on the radio the other day, ever since Brady has returned from his knee injury, the Patriots have deferred every time they have won the toss.
Exactly. Plus, the Giants have asked for the ball in over half the times they've won the toss. So, basically, there's between a 60 and 75% chance the Giants start with the ball (based on how much Giants data you use).

Ksyrup
02-02-2012, 03:14 PM
I watched that video and I thought, "damn, I hope that guy has expressed himself on video regarding a variety of other topics that interest me", and it turns out HE HAS! He has an entire portfolio of video opinions.

The shirt made me immediately think it was a set-up/joke.

spleen1015
02-02-2012, 04:40 PM
Peyton has been cleared to resume his NFL career. WTF does that really mean?

Doesn't mean he's ready to throw bullets today, I guess.

Matthean
02-02-2012, 04:47 PM
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y268/sterlingice/2012%20Super%20Bowl/IMG_5082.jpg


She made a bet with a coworker. If the Pats win, he has to wear a Pats cheerleader outfit. If the Giants win, she has to wear a Giants bikini.

bhlloy
02-03-2012, 11:40 AM
Peyton has been cleared to resume his NFL career. WTF does that really mean?

Doesn't mean he's ready to throw bullets today, I guess.

It means that Irsay came out today and shredded any small chance there was that this might be resumed amicably after all. So much for the truce.

Also I have to say Pey-Pey isnt exactly smelling of roses here. You couldn't wait until after the SB in Indy that your brother is playing in to release that nugget of information? Starting to look a little like #4 right now

spleen1015
02-03-2012, 11:51 AM
I don't know if it is Peyton releasing the info or not. If he wanted to release the info, I would think he would have done it earlier in the week when he gave the interview to ESPN.

From a PR point of view, it doesn't matter what Peyton does. The fans love him no matter what. He's nothing like Favre. Irsay tweeting like he did last night is laughable to me. Why tweet it? You've already decided to cut him, you just haven't said it yet.

Everything that comes out of the Colts, whether it is Irsay, Grigson, Pagano, Arains, etc talks about the future. They're all talking about moving on but no one has come right out and said Peyton's not part of the plan. So, there's no use in fighting a PR battle today when you're going to be hated once you cut him regardless of what you do between now and then.

Ksyrup
02-03-2012, 11:55 AM
A ton of news being dropped by the NFL today. Thursday schedule is being increased to 13 games:

NFL: all 32 NFL teams will play at least one primetime game in 2012. Also, every club will play on one Thursday following a Sunday game.

gstelmack
02-03-2012, 12:01 PM
I don't know if it is Peyton releasing the info or not. If he wanted to release the info, I would think he would have done it earlier in the week when he gave the interview to ESPN.

He also could have held off on the interview until after the Super Bowl.

Ksyrup
02-03-2012, 12:03 PM
He could have hired Scott Boras to announce it at the start of the 3rd quarter of the SB, too.

Jughead Spock
02-03-2012, 12:08 PM
From a PR point of view, it doesn't matter what Peyton does. The fans love him no matter what. He's nothing like Favre.



Yet.

spleen1015
02-03-2012, 12:09 PM
He also could have held off on the interview until after the Super Bowl.

I agree with that 100%. I believe the interview was setup by Gatorade. He mentioned that during the interview anyway.

sterlingice
02-03-2012, 12:28 PM
A ton of news being dropped by the NFL today. Thursday schedule is being increased to 13 games:

NFL: all 32 NFL teams will play at least one primetime game in 2012. Also, every club will play on one Thursday following a Sunday game.

That's excellent news. This is why the NFL is beating the snot out of other leagues- it's the sign of a very forward thinking league and model. Whereas baseball keeps trying to focus on only on the large markets or basketball only a few star teams, the NFL wants to promote the league as a whole and it helps them stay healthy across the country in every market.

SI

Ksyrup
02-03-2012, 12:35 PM
Except they also announced they are keeping the existing blackout rules, which sucks.

sterlingice
02-04-2012, 05:48 PM
3 of the 4 local networks have a 2+ hour Super Bowl special on tonight. It is fun to soak this all in, tho.

SI

Buccaneer
02-04-2012, 06:21 PM
He also could have held off on the interview until after the Super Bowl.

What? And spoil the non-stop Manning News that we've been having for two weeks? It's pathetic of those complaining that we would have two weeks of nothing but Brady and Bellicheck, whereas we got two weeks of the worst team of the 2011 NFL and a QB who did not even play. :banghead:

molson
02-04-2012, 06:42 PM
What? And spoil the non-stop Manning News that we've been having for two weeks? It's pathetic of those complaining that we would have two weeks of nothing but Brady and Bellicheck, whereas we got two weeks of the worst team of the 2011 NFL and a QB who did not even play. :banghead:

Manning and Irsay are both whores.

But anyway, I did cleanse myself and and listened to a ton of ESPN and WEEI podcasts about the actual game today while doing some chores, and that got me a lot more fired up for tomorrow. It's an interesting matchup. It's interesting how the Pats are still favored in Vegas (last I checked), when the clear consensus is that the Giants are the better team. I agree with the consensus. But I also remember that the Giants won 9 games this year and had some very bad losses. And I see the way they're talking this week, and while I don't have problem with a team talking, I wonder if there are some mental issues going on there - the Giants have had some problems when they're expected to do well, and they maybe have to turn the talking up to 11 to motivate themselves, even if it's the super bowl. Maybe that's a stretch, but it does seem like an excellent team that has mental switches that are a little off at times. Where as the Patriots have been more consistent - an up and down first few weeks and now 10 wins in a row, and the defense has improved along the way and now peaked in the playoffs.

And I think I'm more afraid of the Giants' offense than their defense. Everybody talks about the defense and getting to Brady, which is important, but I think it's true that the Pats are much less susceptible to the pass rush this year then when they've had a more vertical offense in years past. I think they can figure it out. But the Giants offense v. Patriots defense, there's just going to be scary on every possession.

RainMaker
02-04-2012, 07:05 PM
She made a bet with a coworker. If the Pats win, he has to wear a Pats cheerleader outfit. If the Giants win, she has to wear a Giants bikini.
Go Giants!

spleen1015
02-04-2012, 07:17 PM
I don't think people are giving the Patriots enough credit. We are talking about a 13-3 team here. A lot of the 'experts' are saying the Giants are going to win by a lot. Remember the Rams were supposed to beat the Patriots, too.

I expect a good game that comes down to the last possession.

jeff061
02-04-2012, 07:38 PM
13-3 against a ridiculously soft schedule, now playing against a team that matches up damn near perfectly against them.

As a Pat's fan I'm nervous :D.

sabotai
02-04-2012, 08:40 PM
As a Giants fan, I'm nervous because the last time this many people were picking the Giants in a Super Bowl, they got spanked by the Ravens.

(But yeah, 13-3, but 0-3 against teams above .500 in the regular season I think. They didn't beat a team with a winning record until the championship game against the Ravens, and they barely won that.)

cartman
02-04-2012, 10:33 PM
The Pats cut Tiquan Underwood the day before the Super Bowl.

2012 Super Bowl -- New England Patriots cut Tiquan Underwood on eve of Super Bowl - ESPN Boston (http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/id/7541297/2012-super-bowl-new-england-patriots-cut-tiquan-underwood-eve-super-bowl)

Lathum
02-04-2012, 10:36 PM
Oddly enough both Rutgers guys. That is a shitty thing to do to someone

molson
02-04-2012, 10:38 PM
The Patriots v. teams with winning records thing is one of the more overrated stats out that's getting a lot of play. Would their season have been considered more impressive, if they say, beat the Steelers and the Giants, and instead, lost to to the Dolphins and the Redskins? Is that the mark of a better team?

It seems more a scheduling quirk than anything else. There were 8 teams that finished 8-8 in the NFL this year. Including the playoffs, Patriots were 8-0 against that group. So, including the playoffs, the Patriots were 9-2 against teams that were .500 or better. The Giants were 8-4 against teams that were .500 or better, including the playoffs. And the Giants also lost twice to the Redskins, and to the Seahawks at home. So were they really all that much more impressive during their season?

Scoobz0202
02-04-2012, 10:39 PM
The Pats cut Tiquan Underwood the day before the Super Bowl.

2012 Super Bowl -- New England Patriots cut Tiquan Underwood on eve of Super Bowl - ESPN Boston (http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/id/7541297/2012-super-bowl-new-england-patriots-cut-tiquan-underwood-eve-super-bowl)

That's cold... I understand it's part of the business but 24 hours before the damn game??

jeff061
02-04-2012, 10:39 PM
I don't think it's knock against them. Especially since those 0-3 games were close.

But I certainly don't think you can tout their record as proof of their abilities either.

molson
02-04-2012, 10:45 PM
I don't think it's knock against them. Especially since those 0-3 games were close.

But I certainly don't think you can tout their record as proof of their abilities either.

It's maybe a "softer" 13-3, but I'm not sure what that tells us....would they have had a much worse record if some of those 6 8-8 teams they beat won one more game during the season?

DaddyTorgo
02-04-2012, 10:47 PM
That's cold... I understand it's part of the business but 24 hours before the damn game??

It's a roster move I'm sure. I'm sure he'll get his full playoff share and everything.

stevew
02-04-2012, 11:25 PM
When i saw they cut a WR right before the super bowl, I just assumed that it was Ochocinco. The headline I saw was "Patriots cut WR on eve of Super Bowl"

Matthean
02-04-2012, 11:30 PM
Giants.com accidentally put up a version of the website based on the Giants winning the Superbowl and then taken it down after a brief period.

molson
02-05-2012, 12:04 AM
The Patriots are not a sentimental organization.

I'm sure it's as simple as they wanted another DE on the roster and this is the only way to do it. And Underwood was going to be inactive anyway. People are wondering though if doing it this late prevents the Giants from signing him (is there a waiver period)? Also, Silvestro ending the season on the 53 man roster gives them control over him for next season, otherwise he'd be a free agent. Apparently teams have added guys to the main roster right before their last game/playoff game for this reason. Also, they'll probably be looking to replace Gronk on special teams, and Silvestro can do that. (these are all thoughts I've read over at SOSH).

stevew
02-05-2012, 01:33 AM
I'd hate to see the Patriots win, but winning one for Myra Kraft would be pretty special.

tucker rocky
02-05-2012, 01:49 AM
This years version of the SB smells like a bad sequel to a movie.

I name this SB:

NY Giants vs NE Patriots pt.II
Electric Boogaloo

:lol:

stevew
02-05-2012, 01:54 AM
Minor point unrelated to this game. I didn't realize there were two players named Will Allen in the league. I just assumed the Will Allen on the Steelers was the one who used to play for the Giants.

Autumn
02-05-2012, 10:28 AM
The Patriots are not a sentimental organization.

I'm sure it's as simple as they wanted another DE on the roster and this is the only way to do it. And Underwood was going to be inactive anyway. People are wondering though if doing it this late prevents the Giants from signing him (is there a waiver period)? Also, Silvestro ending the season on the 53 man roster gives them control over him for next season, otherwise he'd be a free agent. Apparently teams have added guys to the main roster right before their last game/playoff game for this reason. Also, they'll probably be looking to replace Gronk on special teams, and Silvestro can do that. (these are all thoughts I've read over at SOSH).

Silvestro sounds suspiciously like Sinestro. This smells like Bellichik evil genius in the works.

Rizon
02-05-2012, 11:07 AM
For those who are playing 100 grid squares. Odds per score based on NFL history:

The number 0 appeared 99 times - 27.50%
The number 7 appeared 75 times - 20.83%
The number 3 appeared 56 times - 15.56%
The number 4 appeared 38 times - 10.56%
The number 6 appeared 30 times - 8.33%
The number 1 appeared 20 times - 5.56%
The number 9 appeared 15 times - 4.17%
The number 2 appeared 9 times - 2.50%
The number 8 appeared 9 times - 2.50%
The number 5 appeared 9 times - 2.50%

General Mike
02-05-2012, 03:27 PM
Giants.com accidentally put up a version of the website based on the Giants winning the Superbowl and then taken it down after a brief period.

fucking idiots. Way to screw the whole thing up. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

sterlingice
02-05-2012, 03:42 PM
Yes, if the Giants lose- that will definitely be the reason

SI

Lathum
02-05-2012, 03:53 PM
wife and I doing some super bowl props

Me "Kelly Clarkson, over or under 1 minute 34 seconds for the national anthem?"
My Wife " under, she's fat and is going to want to get off the field"

sterlingice
02-05-2012, 04:23 PM
The consensus for Indy is that things have happened pretty much perfectly so far. The weather has been amazing- this time last year we were digging out from in ice storm. And all people can seem to talk about is how nice it is to have everything downtown in the Super Bowl Village and how friendly Hoosiers are. So, all in all, everyone is extremely pleased here

SI

Draft Dodger
02-05-2012, 04:36 PM
For those who are playing 100 grid squares. Odds per score based on NFL history:

The number 0 appeared 99 times - 27.50%
The number 7 appeared 75 times - 20.83%
The number 3 appeared 56 times - 15.56%
The number 4 appeared 38 times - 10.56%
The number 6 appeared 30 times - 8.33%
The number 1 appeared 20 times - 5.56%
The number 9 appeared 15 times - 4.17%
The number 2 appeared 9 times - 2.50%
The number 8 appeared 9 times - 2.50%
The number 5 appeared 9 times - 2.50%

we have 0-0 on one and 7-3 on another. I bet we find a way to not win a cent

molson
02-05-2012, 04:38 PM
The consensus for Indy is that things have happened pretty much perfectly so far. The weather has been amazing- this time last year we were digging out from in ice storm. And all people can seem to talk about is how nice it is to have everything downtown in the Super Bowl Village and how friendly Hoosiers are. So, all in all, everyone is extremely pleased here

SI

Ya, FWIW, all the Boston sports radio guys I was listening to on my mini podcast marathon were unanimous in praise. I think they were surprised by the dining options and nightlife and general atmosphere.

spleen1015
02-05-2012, 04:40 PM
The consensus for Indy is that things have happened pretty much perfectly so far. The weather has been amazing- this time last year we were digging out from in ice storm. And all people can seem to talk about is how nice it is to have everything downtown in the Super Bowl Village and how friendly Hoosiers are. So, all in all, everyone is extremely pleased here

SI

The local radio guys were asking every one of their guests their opinions on how well Indy has done as the Super Bowl host city and pretty much all of them said that Indy has been the best host city they've ever been to.

I hope it means Indy gets to host another one down the road. I'm proud of the job the city has done.

sterlingice
02-05-2012, 05:01 PM
I think the city really looked at this as a chance to come out and show people that it can put on a good party and isn't just flyover country. I've been pleasantly surprised in the time I've lived here- it seems like the city has good municipal leadership and is forward thinking, on the whole. It's good to see that rewarded

SI

bob
02-05-2012, 05:16 PM
I'm watching the game streaming on nbc's website. Looks like they aren't showing the broadcast commercials but a separate set of online ones. Kinda sucks.

EagleFan
02-05-2012, 05:21 PM
Okay, the anthem helped me pick a team. Go Giants! More of them were respecting the anthem and more of the Patriots seemed to be looking around like they could care less, sad for a team with that name. Also, Eli looked focus while Brady looked like some cocky a-hole pretty boy.

Lathum
02-05-2012, 05:22 PM
Eli looked crazy focused. And Kelly Clarkson made me some money by singing a fast anthem!

EagleFan
02-05-2012, 05:26 PM
Jeez, who is 51 on the Patriots? Wouldn't even acknowledge the Giant with his hand out to him after the coin toss.

stevew
02-05-2012, 05:27 PM
Tails always fails.

sterlingice
02-05-2012, 05:30 PM
Game time

SI

EagleFan
02-05-2012, 05:30 PM
And Kelly Clarkson made me some money by singing a fast anthem!

If they didn't say who it was I wouldn't have guess that was her. Not sure when I saw a picture of her last but never would have guessed.

sterlingice
02-05-2012, 05:32 PM
Jeez, who is 51 on the Patriots? Wouldn't even acknowledge the Giant with his hand out to him after the coin toss.

I know we like to micro-analyze everything today, but first the national anthem, then how Brady looks like a pretty boy (isn't that his default?), and now the coin toss?

SI

EagleFan
02-05-2012, 05:32 PM
This pains me to say but I think if you take the regular season play of Peyton and the playoff play of Eli you may have the perfect quarterback.

EagleFan
02-05-2012, 05:33 PM
I know we like to micro-analyze everything today, but first the national anthem, then how Brady looks like a pretty boy (isn't that his default?), and now the coin toss?

SI

What else do I have to do?

sterlingice
02-05-2012, 05:35 PM
What else do I have to do?

I suppose that is the flavor of the day, being the Super Bowl

SI

sterlingice
02-05-2012, 05:38 PM
This pains me to say but I think if you take the regular season play of Peyton and the playoff play of Eli you may have the perfect quarterback.

How do I put this delicately? If Eli and Peyton had to take the SAT or IQ test today, the one who doesn't score as high would be more unflappable because, well, he just doesn't get it... (tho, of course, being QB isn't building a rocket or performing brain surgery so there's only a baseline required)

SI

EagleFan
02-05-2012, 05:38 PM
lol, that is about the most pumped up I have seen a punter after a punt. :)

EagleFan
02-05-2012, 05:41 PM
Whoa. Interesting start.

sterlingice
02-05-2012, 05:41 PM
Interesting call

SI

GrantDawg
02-05-2012, 05:41 PM
That is the greatest qb to ever play the game.

Abe Sargent
02-05-2012, 05:41 PM
Well, that' a first

EagleFan
02-05-2012, 05:41 PM
Who had 2-0 on the block pool? Big surprise for them!

Radii
02-05-2012, 05:42 PM
we have 0-0 on one and 7-3 on another. I bet we find a way to not win a cent

Almost there!!

sterlingice
02-05-2012, 05:42 PM
Jynx, you owe me a... Pepsi? Damn ads

SI

stevew
02-05-2012, 05:42 PM
Safety

bulletsponge
02-05-2012, 05:42 PM
lol wow! if you bet on that you made out like a bandit

sterlingice
02-05-2012, 05:43 PM
Man, lots of car ads

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EagleFan
02-05-2012, 05:43 PM
Kind of liked that commercial.

sterlingice
02-05-2012, 05:45 PM
Pats seem to be botching quite a few first tackles so far

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EagleFan
02-05-2012, 05:45 PM
That was some bad tackling.

sabotai
02-05-2012, 05:46 PM
The Giants have been taking advantage of that "FB in the flat" AI exploit all season.

EagleFan
02-05-2012, 05:47 PM
The Giants have been taking advantage of that "FB in the flat" AI exploit all season.

Next year's version may address that bug. :)

britrock88
02-05-2012, 05:51 PM
This is how you build a time of possession advantage.

sabotai
02-05-2012, 05:52 PM
Pumpy's happy!

sterlingice
02-05-2012, 05:52 PM
Nice job, jumping guy who jumped like 5 yards in front of the pass

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spleen1015
02-05-2012, 05:52 PM
Fuck yeah, baby.

EagleFan
02-05-2012, 05:52 PM
That looks a little funny on replay, the defender not looking with his hand up diving one way and the ball goes behind his back.

sabotai
02-05-2012, 05:53 PM
Nice job, jumping guy who jumped like 5 yards in front of the pass

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Looked like me when I played Madden.

kingfc22
02-05-2012, 05:53 PM
M&M's in the early lead in my book.

sterlingice
02-05-2012, 05:54 PM
Looked like me when I played Madden.

Me, too

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EagleFan
02-05-2012, 05:55 PM
Hmm, now the Patriots need to get 8 points somehow (since I have 9-8).

EagleFan
02-05-2012, 05:56 PM
Looked like me when I played Madden.

Me, too

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Glad I'm not the only one.

bob
02-05-2012, 05:56 PM
Confirmed that online its the same five commercials over and over. Wonder why

sterlingice
02-05-2012, 05:56 PM
Chevy: The Official Truck of Fallout 3?

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RendeR
02-05-2012, 05:57 PM
APOCALYPSE AD! ! I think I just peed. LOL

spleen1015
02-05-2012, 05:57 PM
M&M's in the early lead in my book.

Chevy just took the lead, IMO.

frnk55
02-05-2012, 05:59 PM
Chevy: The Official Truck of Fallout 3?

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ha, was thinking Fallout right away.

bulletsponge
02-05-2012, 06:03 PM
battleship? really?

sterlingice
02-05-2012, 06:04 PM
battleship? really?

Michael Bay needs to do something in between Transformer movies, right?

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cartman
02-05-2012, 06:04 PM
More info on the Go Daddy body paint girl, please.

sterlingice
02-05-2012, 06:06 PM
battleship? really?

Also, I didn't realize Liam Neeson was that hard up for money

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Matthean
02-05-2012, 06:08 PM
Michael Bay needs to do something in between Transformer movies, right?

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Not done by Michael Bay.

sterlingice
02-05-2012, 06:10 PM
Not done by Michael Bay.

Just totally looks like it

Also, why is the Prince of Persia fighting Star Wars monsters for Disney?

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Matthean
02-05-2012, 06:11 PM
Super Bowl XLVI: Did Chevy Ad Hurt Ford’s Feelings? (Video) - Driver's Seat - WSJ (http://blogs.wsj.com/drivers-seat/2012/02/05/did-chevy-super-bowl-ad-hurt-ford%E2%80%99s-feelings-video/?mod=google_news_blog)

spleen1015
02-05-2012, 06:12 PM
Many of the local sports guys tweeting that the police were escorting a drunk fan out and he fell down the stairs while leaving. $2k well spent.

Matthean
02-05-2012, 06:12 PM
Just totally looks like it

Also, why is the Prince of Persia fighting Star Wars monsters for Disney?

SI

You mean Riggins?

britrock88
02-05-2012, 06:15 PM
Volkswagen in the lead?

spleen1015
02-05-2012, 06:15 PM
No Peyton sightings yet? WTF is NBC doing?

sterlingice
02-05-2012, 06:16 PM
You mean Riggins?

You are taking all the fun out of this. Yeah, Riggins from FNL but I was going more for what the character looked like- not the actor

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GrantDawg
02-05-2012, 06:17 PM
Volkswagen in the lead?

I loved it.

spleen1015
02-05-2012, 06:17 PM
My wife just asked me who that actor was. I told her he was on FNL. She says "I should have watched that show with you, I think."

sterlingice
02-05-2012, 06:19 PM
Haha

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hoopsguy
02-05-2012, 06:20 PM
Who had 2-0 on the block pool? Big surprise for them!

Yep, this wrecked some perfectly good numbers for me as well.

sterlingice
02-05-2012, 06:22 PM
I'm kindof happy that Coke has gone back to cute ads for the year. Won't score huge with the ad meter but helps build the brand

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JonInMiddleGA
02-05-2012, 06:27 PM
Confirmed that online its the same five commercials over and over. Wonder why

Broadcast ads & online ads were sold separately.

In New-Media First, Super Bowl to Be Streamed Online | MediaWorks - Advertising Age (http://adage.com/article/mediaworks/media-super-bowl-streamed-online/231681/)

edit to add, from a different article -- The digital stream -- the first time the Super Bowl will be shown in such fashion in the U.S. -- will contain fewer ads than the TV broadcast, including just a portion of the game's overall TV ad roster. "There are going to be fewer advertisements with less messaging, something that would be more conducive to how you would expect the digital experience to be," Mr. Winter said.

bob
02-05-2012, 06:29 PM
Broadcast ads & online ads were sold separately.

In New-Media First, Super Bowl to Be Streamed Online | MediaWorks - Advertising Age (http://adage.com/article/mediaworks/media-super-bowl-streamed-online/231681/)

I guess that makes sense I just wish it wasn't the same four ads each break.

sterlingice
02-05-2012, 06:30 PM
Giants punter for MVP!

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hoopsguy
02-05-2012, 06:31 PM
Giants punter is killing it right now. Pats aren't ideally constructed for 90+ yard drives, unless they are facing the Dolphins.

britrock88
02-05-2012, 06:32 PM
Weatherford's punting is reminding me of how I thought LSU's punter was the MVP of the first LSU-Bama game, especially for that 75-yarder when LSU was pinned deep after the interception of Alabama.

JonInMiddleGA
02-05-2012, 06:33 PM
I guess that makes sense I just wish it wasn't the same four ads each break.

I'd be curious to see if they change after halftime, or at certain times on the clock or something. It's possible they sold them by the quarter or the hour (as opposed to more common rotations).

Matthean
02-05-2012, 06:34 PM
Weatherford's punting is reminding me of how I thought LSU's punter was the MVP of the first LSU-Bama game, especially for that 75-yarder when LSU was pinned deep after the interception of Alabama.

This game sucks. Who wants a rematch? The Saints or Packers would have at least scored more than this. :lol:

sterlingice
02-05-2012, 06:36 PM
This game sucks. Who wants a rematch? The Saints or Packers would have at least scored more than this. :lol:

Yeah, we should totally go for a horribly flawed beauty pageant to determine who plays in the Super Bowl

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britrock88
02-05-2012, 06:38 PM
Tip o'th'hat to the cars.com ad.

sterlingice
02-05-2012, 06:38 PM
That was the first weird and creepy ad for me

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bob
02-05-2012, 06:39 PM
I'd be curious to see if they change after halftime, or at certain times on the clock or something. It's possible they sold them by the quarter or the hour (as opposed to more common rotations).

I hope. So far the same since 30 minutes before game time.

GE
Samsung Galaxy phone
Chevy Dwight schrute ad series that never shows a car
Act of valorous movie
budweiser

britrock88
02-05-2012, 06:42 PM
A full first half in about 75 minutes. Impressive!

cartman
02-05-2012, 06:45 PM
That Doritos ad was pretty good.

EagleFan
02-05-2012, 06:45 PM
cars dot com ad sucked.

Winner of the night so far is the flower commercial. :D

JonInMiddleGA
02-05-2012, 06:47 PM
cars dot com ad sucked.

Yeah, I think that's the first real clunker I've seen so far, although I wasn't much on the Chevy Sonic spot either.

JonInMiddleGA
02-05-2012, 06:47 PM
Well fuck

EagleFan
02-05-2012, 06:48 PM
Wasn't there a major hold on that play?

sterlingice
02-05-2012, 06:48 PM
98 yards after the penalty?

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britrock88
02-05-2012, 06:48 PM
Wait, JIMGa... you root against patriots?

kingfc22
02-05-2012, 06:48 PM
Hell of a drive there

sterlingice
02-05-2012, 06:49 PM
Wasn't there a major hold on that play?

Honestly, isn't there something close on every play in football?

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Suburban Rhythm
02-05-2012, 06:50 PM
Wasn't there a major hold on that play?

I was thinking the same...but we've gone all year without those getting called, why start now?

JonInMiddleGA
02-05-2012, 06:51 PM
Odd observation but ... my Facebook is a virtual ghost town. That's definitely not what I would have expected to happen, not in the whole "second screen" era.

EagleFan
02-05-2012, 06:51 PM
Honestly, isn't there something close on every play in football?

SI

Doesn't make it any less a penalty.

britrock88
02-05-2012, 06:53 PM
F@$%. That "enjoy better" series of ads I was intrigued by turned out to be a Time Warner piece. Grumble grumble.

EagleFan
02-05-2012, 06:54 PM
dola: If the defense is handicapped by flags for just looking at a receiver wrong they shouldn;t get screwed over by refs allowing holds on every play.

Not talking about the calls in this game but in general.

RendeR
02-05-2012, 06:55 PM
First half analysis:

Game *YAWwwwwwwwwwwwwwn*

Commercials: 3.5 stars out of 5.

Lathum
02-05-2012, 07:01 PM
If you had asked me yesterday if I would be happy being down 1 at the half I would have gladly taken it. Now not so much, feels like we dominated that half and should be winning, plus Pats getting the ball to start the half makes me really nervous.

Suburban Rhythm
02-05-2012, 07:02 PM
dola: If the defense is handicapped by flags for just looking at a receiver wrong they shouldn;t get screwed over by refs allowing holds on every play.

Not talking about the calls in this game but in general.

That knock on your door is Roger Goodell

I don't like it either, but have accepted that it's not changing back now.

kingfc22
02-05-2012, 07:03 PM
First half analysis:

Game *YAWwwwwwwwwwwwwwn*

Commercials: 3.5 stars out of 5.

Let me add:

Half time: Milli Vanilli esque. BOOOOO!!!

gstelmack
02-05-2012, 07:03 PM
Doesn't make it any less a penalty.

Well, they didn't call it on the helmet catch 4 years ago, so...

Enjoying the game, and ecstatic to be up 1 given the boneheaded mistakes early on. Pats defense doing their usual "give up yards not points" routine, and the offense starting to get on track. Still expecting a close game that could go either way.

sterlingice
02-05-2012, 07:03 PM
Doesn't make it any less a penalty.

Well, yes and no. If it's not being called on every play then it's a bit hypocritical to point it out just on the touchdown play.

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sterlingice
02-05-2012, 07:04 PM
Madonna is all about subtle

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AlexB
02-05-2012, 07:06 PM
Let me add:

Half time: Milli Vanilli esque. BOOOOO!!!

Maybe she saw how bad Black Eyed Peas were singing live last year

britrock88
02-05-2012, 07:06 PM
Afro'd trapeze balancing guy is a highlight.

Matthean
02-05-2012, 07:07 PM
Pats ending the half and start the second half with a 31 minute half time wait and the Giants offense is going to be sitting for some time.

kingfc22
02-05-2012, 07:07 PM
Maybe she saw how bad Black Eyed Peas were singing live last year

That was more about poor audio engineers than the talent.

molson
02-05-2012, 07:07 PM
If you had asked me yesterday if I would be happy being down 1 at the half I would have gladly taken it. Now not so much, feels like we dominated that half and should be winning, plus Pats getting the ball to start the half makes me really nervous.

Yup, and from the opposite side, stunned and thrilled to be up 1 after the half I just saw.

spleen1015
02-05-2012, 07:08 PM
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Julio Riddols
02-05-2012, 07:09 PM
Haha, this makes me think of football.

sterlingice
02-05-2012, 07:10 PM
Should I know this song?

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bob
02-05-2012, 07:10 PM
They aren't even showing madonna online.

PilotMan
02-05-2012, 07:10 PM
Can I safely say that this is one of the worst halftime shows in years?

spleen1015
02-05-2012, 07:11 PM
Can I safely say that this is one of the worst halftime shows in years?

No. It is the worst one ever.

kingfc22
02-05-2012, 07:11 PM
Can I safely say that this is one of the worst halftime shows in years?

This is pretty horrible.

Julio Riddols
02-05-2012, 07:12 PM
I kinda wish it WAS Milli Vanilli.

sterlingice
02-05-2012, 07:12 PM
Worst? Really? Can I go and dig up last year's comments and see the same? And the year before? And the year before?

Honestly, it's pedestrian. There's nothing really notable. But there's nothing terribly bad about it either. It's just there

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EagleFan
02-05-2012, 07:13 PM
Jeez, it's still on. I didn't take long enough to walk the dog.

AlexB
02-05-2012, 07:13 PM
To be fair the visual show is great, just completely devalued by the fact she's not actually singing

Danny
02-05-2012, 07:13 PM
I have no idea who any of the guest talent is this year.

Chief Rum
02-05-2012, 07:14 PM
Madonna has a hairy chest.

Matthean
02-05-2012, 07:14 PM
My friend said "At least it's not Nickelback." :lol:

EagleFan
02-05-2012, 07:14 PM
Wasn't last year Black Eye Peas? That one sucked royally. This one sucked but maybe a slight bit less than last year.

spleen1015
02-05-2012, 07:14 PM
The thing about it is, Madonna is totally irrelevant. Give us Katy Perry or someone that is relevant today.

molson
02-05-2012, 07:15 PM
It's time to try something different with the halftime show. Why does it always have to be a music act? How about a magician, or some sketch comedy, or bring the puppy bowl to the big stage.

Danny
02-05-2012, 07:15 PM
Worst? Really? Can I go and dig up last year's comments and see the same? And the year before? And the year before?

Honestly, it's pedestrian. There's nothing really notable. But there's nothing terribly bad about it either. It's just there

SI

Yeah probably the most accurate comment, though you'd certainly think they could do a lot better.

rowech
02-05-2012, 07:15 PM
To be fair the visual show is great, just completely devalued by the fact she's not actually singing

Visually it was outstanding. In person it was probably even more impressive.

Glengoyne
02-05-2012, 07:16 PM
Can I safely say that this is one of the worst halftime shows in years?


I was going to say this was like 100% better than last year's. Granted i had expectation for the BEPs. So madonna far exceeded what I feared she would do.

Matthean
02-05-2012, 07:17 PM
The thing about it is, Madonna is totally irrelevant. Give us Katy Perry or someone that is relevant today.

The only advantage there is Kathy is younger. She's horrid singing live.

Chief Rum
02-05-2012, 07:17 PM
They should do like hockey. Let a couple Pop Warner teams out there to play a few plays. Dress them up in the actual teams' unis.

molson
02-05-2012, 07:17 PM
I know my mother didn't watch the game but made my father let her know when Madonna was starting with the halftime crap. She's representative of why we get this nonsense every year.

EagleFan
02-05-2012, 07:17 PM
The thing about it is, Madonna is totally irrelevant. Give us Katy Perry or someone that is relevant today.

:lol: This post made me laugh, thank you.

sterlingice
02-05-2012, 07:20 PM
Definitely a fan of Chrysler's recent ad campaigns that started with Eminen and how Detroit is fighting back

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spleen1015
02-05-2012, 07:21 PM
From twitter

"Nice shout out to Ron Artest at the end there by Madonna." :D

sterlingice
02-05-2012, 07:21 PM
The thing about it is, Madonna is totally irrelevant. Give us Katy Perry or someone that is relevant today.

Shelf life of Katy Perry is... what? 5 years, tops?

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Julio Riddols
02-05-2012, 07:21 PM
It would be interesting to see how much the ratings differ between the game action and the halftime show. I also agree fully that this was wayyyy better then the Black Eyed Peas halftime. Couldn't they get someone like Tom Petty or the Rolling Stones or something?

Matthean
02-05-2012, 07:22 PM
They should get the Foo Fighters.

jbergey22
02-05-2012, 07:22 PM
Worst? Really? Can I go and dig up last year's comments and see the same? And the year before? And the year before?

Honestly, it's pedestrian. There's nothing really notable. But there's nothing terribly bad about it either. It's just there

SI

Haha.

Yeah, last years comments were much more critical. I really didnt mind it. The songs are 15-25 years old. They have to find a person that kind of pleases everyone a little bit and isnt going to make some people crazy. Putting snoop dog or White Zombie up there would probably go over worse.

spleen1015
02-05-2012, 07:23 PM
Shelf life of Katy Perry is... what? 5 years, tops?

SI

Ok. But no one gives a shit about a "I don't want to be American anymore with my lame ass British accent" Madonna.

EagleFan
02-05-2012, 07:23 PM
Definitely a fan of Chrysler's recent ad campaigns that started with Eminen and how Detroit is fighting back

SI

With all the ads going for funny, cute or stylish that one may end up being one of the better ones of the night.