College Football Recruiting (2013 Class) Discussion

[bigdawg2003]

Longhorns get things started with a commitment from Celina OL/DL prospect Jake Raulerson, who's considered one of the top line prospects in the country.

[cartman]

There should be quite a few more commitments after next weekend's Junior Day in Austin.

[DeToxRox]

Michigan has two early pledges; Nearly consensus 5* QB Shane Morris and consensus 4* S Dymonte Thomas. They have a big lead for Illinois OT Logan Tillman who is likely going to be a 5* with the way he is blowing up on the National scene. It's going to likely be a tremendous year for Michigan in 2013.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Michigan has two early pledges; Nearly consensus 5* QB Shane Morris and consensus 4* S Dymonte Thomas. They have a big lead for Illinois OT Logan Tillman who is likely going to be a 5* with the way he is blowing up on the National scene. It's going to likely be a tremendous year for Michigan in 2013.

Let's hope so!

Following Madonna's endorsement of Michigan yesterday, I think things are only going to keep getting better.

Go Blue!

[Logan]

As of a few weeks ago, Rutgers was supposedly expecting a few 2013 verbals after this NSD but with Schiano leaving, that's been thrown off a bit. The bigger issue with this class, as I posted in the 2012 thread, is that Schiano is taking virtually our entire staff with him to TB, including the best recruiter in the area in Jeff Hafley. It's not official yet so hopefully he and a couple others can be convinced to stay, but we've done so well in Jersey recently that losing that momentum can really hurt.

NJ is looking real good again. Greg Webb will contend for the top spot and got offered by Alabama on Wednesday, and will eventually get from everyone. Muhammad out of Bosco is their next big DE recruit after Darius Hamilton, a bit more athletic but not nearly as strong. Eli Woodard also has offers from all the powerhouses but unfortunately for us, he's been a lock to Ohio State since even before Meyer got hired.

[Matthean]

Michigan has two early pledges; Nearly consensus 5* QB Shane Morris and consensus 4* S Dymonte Thomas. They have a big lead for Illinois OT Logan Tillman who is likely going to be a 5* with the way he is blowing up on the National scene. It's going to likely be a tremendous year for Michigan in 2013.

Both are out recruiting for Michigan and they have said their goal is the number one class in the country. I think that's asking a lot with the typical big name schools out there, but it's nice to see that kind of dedication.

I know my Dad said 'Bama had seven already, but I'm not sure if they are commits or just commits plus players they are targeting.

[Eaglesfan27]

5 star DL Kenny Bigelow is the Trojans 1st commit.

[bhlloy]

5 star DL Kenny Bigelow is the Trojans 1st commit.

Hanging onto him is going to be absolutely key. I can't remember the last time we got a legit top 3 talent at that position and we are desperate on DL. He sounds solid but 14 months is a long time and our record with commits in their junior year isn't very good.

[Chief Rum]

UCLA has commits from QB Eddie Printz (Georgia) and CB Dashon Hunt (California). I have no idea how they will rate in the long run; neither are ranked on scout.com yet.

[vex]

Rivals 2013 rankings come out next week btw.

[MrBug708]

Su'a Cravens has been recruited by USC forever and will likely be the top prospect in the West. I'm hopeful UCLA can get on him, but it would be a small miracle if he goes anywhere but USC

[MrBug708]

Hanging onto him is going to be absolutely key. I can't remember the last time we got a legit top 3 talent at that position and we are desperate on DL. He sounds solid but 14 months is a long time and our record with commits in their junior year isn't very good.

Uko was #3 DT two years ago.

[CU Tiger]

2014 future 5* QB DeShawn Watson committs to Clemson.
lulz

[JPhillips]

Michigan has two early pledges; Nearly consensus 5* QB Shane Morris and consensus 4* S Dymonte Thomas. They have a big lead for Illinois OT Logan Tillman who is likely going to be a 5* with the way he is blowing up on the National scene. It's going to likely be a tremendous year for Michigan in 2013.

I agree they'll have a great year. I'd be very surprised if they aren't the second ranked team in the conference. :p

[Matthean]

I know my Dad said 'Bama had seven already, but I'm not sure if they are commits or just commits plus players they are targeting.

That's actually seven commits.

I agree they'll have a great year. I'd be very surprised if they aren't the second ranked team in the conference. :p

Meh. Both schools will be bringing in top 10 if not top 5 classes as long as those coaching staffs are in place. Thankfully for Michigan that will likely be for longer. :devil:

[DeToxRox]

Michigan adds a 2013 TE in Detroit TE Khalid Hill. He will be a top 10 kid in the state next year. TE's are such a boom/bust position that I like taking a kid earlier and then focusing elsewhere with the rest of the class. Especially when we need TE's still.

[Matthean]

Just came to post about it too. 4.0 student that was a life long Michigan fan so he was just waiting for the offer.

[cartman]

Texas is up to 4 verbals:

QB Tyrone Swoopes (nephew of Sheryl Swoops)
OL/DL Jake Raulerson
OL/DL A’Shawn Robinson
WR Jake Oliver

All four are in the top 10 of Texas HS recruit rankings.

[Logan]

Texas is up to 4 verbals:

QB Tyrone Swoopes (nephew of Sheryl Swoops)
OL/DL Jake Raulerson
OL/DL A’Shawn Robinson
WR Jake Oliver

All four are in the top 10 of Texas HS recruit rankings.

Do they really spell their names differently? I remember being amazed that Rutgers' Jonathan Freeny was related to Dwight Freeney.

[DeToxRox]

Illinois 4* OL Kyle Bosch committed to Michigan today.

[cartman]

Do they really spell their names differently? I remember being amazed that Rutgers' Jonathan Freeny was related to Dwight Freeney.

No, I left the 'e' out of her last name.

[DeToxRox]

Michigan 4* ATH Wyatt Shallman commits to Michigan.

[Matthean]

This belongs in the "Things that make you old" thread. Fred Taylor's son commits to Florida.

[Mantle2600]

Ohio State already has 5* athlete Jalin Marshall, 4* corner Cameron Burrows, 4* dt Billy Price and 4* corner Eli Woodard

[Matthean]

Ohio State already has 5* athlete Jalin Marshall, 4* corner Cameron Burrows, 4* dt Billy Price and 4* corner Eli Woodard

I read an article on Rivals that OSU might be the one to challenge 'Bama for #1 overall class from an early guess point. 'Bama already has 7 from the top 250 and looking at maybe getting the top 2 overall. Michigan I think will be up there as well. It's suppose to be a good year for the Midwest including Iowa and Wisconsin so the Big Ten might do well in recruiting this year.

[DeToxRox]

Michigan has two more commits coming. No names as of yet.

[DeToxRox]

4* OG David Dawson and 4* DB Jourdan Lewis of Detroit Cass Tech commit to Michigan.

[DeToxRox]

Michigan isn't even having a Junior Day today, there just happens to be a dozen kids in town for the Michigan/Ohio State hoops game.

[DeToxRox]

Add 4* OL Chris Fox out of Colorado and 4* DE Taco Charlton out of Ohio to the board.

[Matthean]

Reminds me when Michigan played ND at night and pulled in recruits from it. Players see the environment there and when Michigan wins it becomes difficult to say "No" to. I know they sent out an offer to a DL in Cal. but I think the player is taking their time in deciding. Getting Fox is also the 6th 4* player outside of Big Ten country that Hoke and gang have brought in.

[DeToxRox]

4* TE Jake Butt out of Ohio is number seven in the past 36 hours and yes are last two are Taco Butt.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Sweet!

[Matthean]

In one weekend Michigan got verbals from what should be more than 25% of it's class. Rivals only has one listed as not rated. If a player is rated, they are a four star. Michigan had twelve 4*/5* players last year. They are already at nine 4* players this year. Craziness.

[DeToxRox]

Illinois 4* OT Logan Tuley-Tillman commits to Michigan tonight. Pretty fucking nuts. Four 4* OL in 36 hours.

[Matthean]

Michigan recruiting chat

Chat: Chat with Tom VanHaaren - SportsNation - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/42575)

[Matthean]

Sounds like one of OU's coaches tweeted to a number of recruits giving them his number, saying they had offers, and to call him back, which is a violation. It's suppose to be talked about on ESPN's SoonerNation.

[DeToxRox]

#12 for Michigan - 3* WR Jaron Dukes out of Ohio. Not the flashiest kid but he is a legit 6'3 and growing and has good hands. He faced 5* OSU commit Cam Burrows last year and had 170 yards which is always nice to see.

Still, UM needs at least one legit playmaker at WR in this class, though we lead with top 50 WR Laquon Treadwell out of Illinois. He would be the one we desperately need.

[Honolulu_Blue]

#12 for Michigan - 3* WR Jaron Dukes out of Ohio. Not the flashiest kid but he is a legit 6'3 and growing and has good hands. He faced 5* OSU commit Cam Burrows last year and had 170 yards which is always nice to see.

Still, UM needs at least one legit playmaker at WR in this class, though we lead with top 50 WR Laquon Treadwell out of Illinois. He would be the one we desperately need.

Welcome aboard, Jaron.

Laquon, you're on notice. Make the wise choice, young man.

[bigdawg2003]

Sounds like one of OU's coaches tweeted to a number of recruits giving them his number, saying they had offers, and to call him back, which is a violation. It's suppose to be talked about on ESPN's SoonerNation.

D'oh!

Ricky Seals-Jones was one of the players Norvell offered via Twitter. Committed to the Longhorns this afternoon. Guess he should've tried Facebook instead...

[Matthean]

#12 for Michigan - 3* WR Jaron Dukes out of Ohio. Not the flashiest kid but he is a legit 6'3 and growing and has good hands. He faced 5* OSU commit Cam Burrows last year and had 170 yards which is always nice to see.

Still, UM needs at least one legit playmaker at WR in this class, though we lead with top 50 WR Laquon Treadwell out of Illinois. He would be the one we desperately need.

Yahoo has him 6'4" and Scout has him 6'5". Michigan's currently tallest receiver is 6'3".

[cartman]

Seals-Jones is from Sealy, TX, and is a cousin of Sealy's most famous athlete, Eric Dickerson.

[MrBug708]

UCLA had two verbals, 4/5* CB Dashon Hunt, locally here in LA and Eddie Printz, from Georgia who is a 3/4* QB.

Apparently they've picked up a verbal from Keyante Green, a RB/LB from Georgia whose offer list includes Florida State, UGa, GT, tOSU, Tenn, USC (SEC), and VT.

Any Georgia residents able to shed some light on either of the Georgia kids?

[DeToxRox]

One of the better LBs in the 2013 class, E.J Levenberry named Michigan his leader today in an article on ESPN. Though other schools will be involved it is likely a UM/FSU battle.

[CU Tiger]

Printz is a good athlete will likely be a DB on the next level, if he qualifies and keeps his act together

[MrBug708]

Printz is a good athlete will likely be a DB on the next level, if he qualifies and keeps his act together

A db?

[CU Tiger]

A db?

I know several local schools who liked the kid as an athlete/S but dont see D1 QB...then again some others...

[DeToxRox]

This is absurd now. 4* OL Patrick Kugler (Son of the Steelers OL coach) out of PA committed to Michigan today. He visited yesterday when Hoke wasn't even in town and fell in love with Ann Arbor. What's even worse is he was in Michigan to go to MSU's Junior Day today but decided to stop in AA first and never made it to East Lansing. He is going to play center at Michigan.

[Matthean]

I'm curious to see how MSU's Junior Day goes today.

[MrBug708]

I know several local schools who liked the kid as an athlete/S but dont see D1 QB...then again some others...

Well, if anything, it shows his athleticism

[Matthean]

As of 6:22pm, MSU still sits at 2 verbals, which is what they had before their Junior day. You have to figure to try and make some positive noise on this day. Ow.

[MrBug708]

Michigan had success with their junior day, but that doesnt mean MSU needs to as well.

[mckerney]

MSU picked up a junior day commit from RB R.J. Shelton out of Wisconsin. Also had offers from Iowa, Minnesota and Wisconsin.

[cartman]

The Horns had their second Junior Day last weekend, and have picked up a verbal from the #2 OL in the nation, Kent Perkins. They are up to 10 verbals for 2013, which is half of the slots they have for the coming year.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Notre Dame Fighting Irish football recruit Davonte Neal withdraws from high school - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/story/_/id/7621978/notre-dame-fighting-irish-football-recruit-davonte-neal-withdraws-high-school)

[BishopMVP]

Notre Dame Fighting Irish football recruit Davonte Neal withdraws from high school - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/story/_/id/7621978/notre-dame-fighting-irish-football-recruit-davonte-neal-withdraws-high-school)He got recruited there to play football, why not transfer back to spend his last semester closer to home with friends? (Mostly tongue in cheek - I've posted here before saying we'll see how long he lasts @ Notre Dame, and if getting away from his dad can help him straighten out.)

On a different note, I'm curious if those who follow football recruiting are seeing an increase in earlier recruiting, or if it's just more publicized? The reason I ask is that in lacrosse now Sophomore commitments are exploding (which means they're being scouted on the club circuit summer/fall after 9th grade), basically after 1 coach (Breschi @ UNC) started offering them 2 years ago, cleaned up, and forced everyone but the Ivies to jump on board. Football is even more reliant on physical development, so maybe they will hold the line, but it seems like Junior Day is becoming even bigger and I wonder if any school will try to jump the gun soon and start offering sophomores. (I know that there is the occasional outlier like Lane Kiffin offering that 8th grade QB, but I mean seriously jump in and try to get half or more of their class.) Any of the bigger recruitniks seeing this?

[MacroGuru]

He got recruited there to play football, why not transfer back to spend his last semester closer to home with friends? (Mostly tongue in cheek - I've posted here before saying we'll see how long he lasts @ Notre Dame, and if getting away from his dad can help him straighten out.)

On a different note, I'm curious if those who follow football recruiting are seeing an increase in earlier recruiting, or if it's just more publicized? The reason I ask is that in lacrosse now Sophomore commitments are exploding (which means they're being scouted on the club circuit summer/fall after 9th grade), basically after 1 coach (Breschi @ UNC) started offering them 2 years ago, cleaned up, and forced everyone but the Ivies to jump on board. Football is even more reliant on physical development, so maybe they will hold the line, but it seems like Junior Day is becoming even bigger and I wonder if any school will try to jump the gun soon and start offering sophomores. (I know that there is the occasional outlier like Lane Kiffin offering that 8th grade QB, but I mean seriously jump in and try to get half or more of their class.) Any of the bigger recruitniks seeing this?

I do know Bronco @ BYU was targeting Sophs for the past few years but with him bringing in DuPaix as the recruiting coordinator, the plan changed and they came out and said there would be less in the early offering stage from now on.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Mizzou gets a commit from four-star athlete Chase Abbington. Really nice early pick up for Mizzou. Cited move to the SEC and proximity to home as his primary reasons for commitment.

[Cuckoo]

Slow recruiting start for the Sooners, likely due to the last second scrambling to get guys in the 2012 class. But after this weekend's junior day, OU adds its first commitment of 2013, Houston RB Keith Ford, ranked as the top back in Texas and, by some, as the top overall player in Texas.

[cartman]

Texas continues to load up on the offensive line, getting a verbal from the #1 ranked center in the country, Darius James. That puts Texas up to 12 verbals. Of those 12, seven are in the top 11 ranked recruits for the state.

[DeToxRox]

Texas continues to load up on the offensive line, getting a verbal from the #1 ranked center in the country, Darius James. That puts Texas up to 12 verbals. Of those 12, seven are in the top 11 ranked recruits for the state.

Only 12? Amateurs.

[DeToxRox]

Michigan gets #14 in Ohio 4* LB Michael McCray. He is kind of overrated because he's so raw but he has nice potential.

[cartman]

Texas gets a verbal from the top TE in the state, Durham Smythe out of Belton. He was slated to take a visit to Stanford, but cancelled it. Michigan was another school he had an offer from.

[dawgfan]

Washington is still looking for their first commit for 2013. What's interesting so far is seeing how wide of a net the staff is casting - with Justin Wilcox, Peter Sirmon and Tosh Lupoi on staff now, we're seeing far more offers to kids outside of Washington's usual recruiting areas (Pac-12 states + Hawai'i). Part of that is from relationships Wilcox & Sirmon already had with kids from their time on Tennessee's staff as well as the more national reach Lupoi had with Cal.

Be interesting to see if they can pull 2 or 3 of these kids - probably need to get some of them out west for Spring Practices on an unofficial.

[Brownkeg8]

Michigan gets #14 in Ohio 4* LB Michael McCray. He is kind of overrated because he's so raw but he has nice potential.


most likely going to end up growing into a DE.

[DeToxRox]

Michigan adds #15 with the commitment of DB Gaeron Conley out of Ohio. He's a 4* on Scout, 3* on 247 and likely a 3* on Rivals for now. Hasn't done any camps but most agree hes the 2nd best DB in Ohio. He's 6'1, 170 right now so he had intriguing size for the position.

[Matthean]

most likely going to end up growing into a DE.

Which Michigan is lacking in with this group so it might be a bigger gain for them.

Michigan adds #15 with the commitment of DB Gaeron Conley out of Ohio. He's a 4* on Scout, 3* on 247 and likely a 3* on Rivals for now. Hasn't done any camps but most agree hes the 2nd best DB in Ohio. He's 6'1, 170 right now so he had intriguing size for the position.

This may kill them getting Countess's buddy they were looking at but he's like 5'10" so having two smaller DBs might have been an issue. As talented as Mathieu is, it was interesting to see 'Bama throw his way with taller WRs and have success. You need some size at CB.

[DeToxRox]

Which Michigan is lacking in with this group so it might be a bigger gain for them.



This may kill them getting Countess's buddy they were looking at but he's like 5'10" so having two smaller DBs might have been an issue. As talented as Mathieu is, it was interesting to see 'Bama throw his way with taller WRs and have success. You need some size at CB.

They'll still take one more DB but Fuller seems like he is going to VT with the rest of his brothers. You never know though.

[MrBug708]

UCLA lands 4* OT, Eric Bunte

[Matthean]

#16 for Michigan, RB Deveon Smith.

EDIT: Rival had a 4* rating, but when you look at Michigan's list there isn't any rating.

[MrBug708]

UCLA lands the #16 OLB in the nation, Deon Hollins, from Texas. He's a four star kid who had offers from ND, Oklahoma, OK State, OSU among others. It's nice to be part of this thread after a year off.

Not done taking visits though either

[Chief Rum]

UCLA lands the #16 OLB in the nation, Deon Hollins, from Texas. He's a four star kid who had offers from ND, Oklahoma, OK State, OSU among others. It's nice to be part of this thread after a year off.

Not done taking visits though either

Yeah, this time of year, as much as I love to see my Bruins get some nice commitments, I really put very little value on verbals. There is just so much left to go, so much can happen.

[MrBug708]

USC is poised to land Browne, Hutchings, Justin Davis, Mathis Goodwin, Willis, Baugh, and Redfield.

Gonna be a great class for USC

[bhlloy]

Far too early to be getting too excited, but it certainly looks good for Browne and Goodwin, on top of Hutchins who committed last week. Whether we hold on to any of them, who knows.

[Eaglesfan27]

USC is poised to land Browne, Hutchings, Justin Davis, Mathis Goodwin, Willis, Baugh, and Redfield.

Gonna be a great class for USC

Just got back from a cruise yesterday, and was excited to hear Browne made it official. Su'a Cravens is reportedly already recruiting for USC as well... should be a great class unless something unexpected happens.

[tarcone]

6'5" 250 lb DE David Kenny out of Indianapolis is Iowas first commit.

[DeToxRox]

Michigan picks up #17 with Ohio 4* LB Ben Gedeon.

[Cuckoo]

Big commit for Oklahoma today. Rivals top 100 and possible 5-star DE D.J. Ward made it official at the spring game. Recruiting folks were optimistic, since he's an in-state kid, but he had a ton of offers and there was talk he might be one of those wait until the last minute guys. Extremely happy he decided not to wait.

This comes about a week or so after OU picked up a commit from Florida RB Greg Bryant, their 2nd ESPN 150 RB of the class (Keith Ford out of Texas the other).

[Eaglesfan27]

Word is USC got two commits this weekend at their spring game including four star DE Kylie Fitts who is the seventh ranked DE in the nation.

[kcchief19]

Missouri's move to the SEC is helping them shut the borders on in-state kids. So far 8 of the top 12 kids in Missouri in 2013 have committed, including 4-star LB Nick Ramirez and athlete Chase Abbington. Discounting DBG, the 2013 class is already outpacing the 2012 class.

Only one top 12 in-state player has committed out of state -- 4-star RB Ezekiel Elliott to Ohio State. But I don't think Mizzou has given up on him yet.

There were a trio of Georgia kids in for the spring game today, including QB Eddie Printz who has given a verbal to UCLA but is still looking at other schools.

Amazing the impact the SEC move has had on recruiting. Last year's class was slow to develop and was also ensured as a strong class by landing DGB. Doesn't look like that will be a problem this time around.

[hoopsguy]

Illinois got their first big signing under Coach Beckman - 4* QB Aaron Bailey.

This is supposed to be the best collection of in-state talent in at least a decade, but a bunch have already declared for Michigan, Notre Dame, Iowa ... pretty much anywhere but Illinois. I'm not delusional enough to think that Illinois should get all of the best in-state players, but it sure makes recruiting easier when you have a shot at guys in your back yard.

[Matthean]

Illinois got their first big signing under Coach Beckman - 4* QB Aaron Bailey.

This is supposed to be the best collection of in-state talent in at least a decade, but a bunch have already declared for Michigan, Notre Dame, Iowa ... pretty much anywhere but Illinois. I'm not delusional enough to think that Illinois should get all of the best in-state players, but it sure makes recruiting easier when you have a shot at guys in your back yard.

Might take a year of being decent to start to win them back over. Schools like Michigan and ND are going to be easy sells right now.

[hoopsguy]

Might take a few years of being decent to win them back over. Just frustrating to give up a 6-0 start last year when the first good in-state class, on a national level, is waiting in the wings.

I actually think it is for the best, in the long term, to have that collapse and remove Zook from the head coaching seat. He left the program in a better place than he found it, but it was hard to watch his game day management and the team's preparation week to week. I know there is a danger in thinking the grass is always greener, but it would be really difficult to be worse in those areas than they were with Zook.

[Chief Rum]

There were a trio of Georgia kids in for the spring game today, including QB Eddie Printz who has given a verbal to UCLA but is still looking at other schools.

That's actually rather interesting. While it is certainly known to UCLA that Printz is still visiting other schools, the two sides had apparently agreed to commit fully to one another after his Auburn visits, with UCLA stating they will not pursue any other QBs in the 2013 class, and presumeably, Printz not wavering in his commitment.

I don't know if continued visits were or were not discussed in this, but I would guess they had to be, since to my knowledge, the impetus behind the handshake agreement was the Auburn visits.

As such, I wonder if maybe we will see UCLA get back involved with more western signall callers. Game of chicken, anyone?

[MrBug708]

I would love us to chase Bateman from Utah

[dawgfan]

I would love us to chase Bateman from Utah
Get in line :)

Sounds like he's pretty infatuated with some SEC schools right now, but he did just visit the UW and his parents apparently love the area.

[tarcone]

I was disappointed we missed out on Bailey. Good get for Illinois.

[Eaglesfan27]

USC recruiting momentum is building. Today, they got a commitment from 4 star WR Elridge Massington out of Texas. He is a 4 star WR with size (6'3") and speed who had a bunch of offers.

[bhlloy]

That one came out of nowhere. I'm always pretty skeptical OOS kids who commit without visiting will stick but he looks like he has potential off the charts.

[CU Tiger]

He grew up a huge Reggie Bush fan and said to a friend (rivals reporter) If USC offered it would be hard not to commit on the spot, "but I can't go ike that. Id have to make them sweat it a day or so"

[Matthean]

OSU commit decommits after photos of him and a sex offender surface even though the sex offender and him have no real ties.

Ohio State recruit decommits after convicted sex offender posted photo on the Internet of himself and junior linebacker - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/football/story/_/id/7892108/ohio-state-recruit-decommits-convicted-sex-offender-posted-photo-internet-junior-linebacker)

[Lathum]

OSU commit decommits after photos of him and a sex offender surface even though the sex offender and him have no real ties.

Ohio State recruit decommits after convicted sex offender posted photo on the Internet of himself and junior linebacker - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/football/story/_/id/7892108/ohio-state-recruit-decommits-convicted-sex-offender-posted-photo-internet-junior-linebacker)

Just read this. Someone needs to tell him and his Daddy about the real world that exists outside their small town PA bubble.

[Eaglesfan27]

That one came out of nowhere. I'm always pretty skeptical OOS kids who commit without visiting will stick but he looks like he has potential off the charts.

He grew up a huge Reggie Bush fan and said to a friend (rivals reporter) If USC offered it would be hard not to commit on the spot, "but I can't go ike that. Id have to make them sweat it a day or so"

What CU Tiger said. This kid has wanted to be a Trojan for many years - I'm not worried about him sticking. He is raw in running his routes and his hands could be better, but his size and speed make him very intriguing and he has good hip movement from watching his tape.

[Matthean]

OSU commit decommits after photos of him and a sex offender surface even though the sex offender and him have no real ties.

Ohio State recruit decommits after convicted sex offender posted photo on the Internet of himself and junior linebacker - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/football/story/_/id/7892108/ohio-state-recruit-decommits-convicted-sex-offender-posted-photo-internet-junior-linebacker)

You know, this thread (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=83983) seems rather relevant. :lol:

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Nick pickup for Mizzou this Morning. Jake Campos (4 star, OT from West Des Moines, IA) committed to Mizzou. Starting to really get some great depth at the offensive line positions.

[Eaglesfan27]

Ty Isaac a four star RB with speed from Illinois verbally committed to USC today.

[bhlloy]

Another one I won't get too excited about until the ink dries as I think the parents would still rather he ends up at UM or ND because of distance

However it seems like the sanctions might really have helped in a perverse way for the future. It's like a reset button where the depth chart is wide open in most positions. This class has the potential to be better than any of the Pete Carroll classes

[Eaglesfan27]

Another one I won't get too excited about until the ink dries as I think the parents would still rather he ends up at UM or ND because of distance

However it seems like the sanctions might really have helped in a perverse way for the future. It's like a reset button where the depth chart is wide open in most positions. This class has the potential to be better than any of the Pete Carroll classes

Mom came out to USC last week and loved the city, so I am not worried. Love his combination of size, speed, and agility. Agreed with your 2nd paragraph.

[bhlloy]

Justin Davis also committed to USC, two of the top three backs in the country in the same week. Both will get some serious playing time as true freshmen, as there just isn't anyone else

[Eaglesfan27]

Justin Davis also committed to USC, two of the top three backs in the country in the same week. Both will get some serious playing time as true freshmen, as there just isn't anyone else

Yes. Great kid, great pick up. Added bonus is that he is on pace to be an early enrollee and not count towards the 15 scholarships.

[MrBug708]

Is any kid who goes to USC not considered a great kid? :)

[MrBug708]

Get in line :)

Sounds like he's pretty infatuated with some SEC schools right now, but he did just visit the UW and his parents apparently love the area.

Bama it is

[dawgfan]

Bama it is
Yeah, not a shocker. UW can now focus exclusively on Troy Williams.

On Davis - I like any kid that knows how to use "synergy" in a sentence.

[MrBug708]

Why Troy hasnt committed to Oregon, I dont know why. I wish UCLA would recruit him harder, but they seem to like Prinz and we wont take two guys

[dawgfan]

Why Troy hasnt committed to Oregon, I dont know why. I wish UCLA would recruit him harder, but they seem to like Prinz and we wont take two guys
From what I've read, he's not even considering Oregon. Not sure he's got an offer from them.

Biggins seems to think it's a two-horse race between Washington & Arizona, with Washington holding a definite lead.

[MrBug708]

He should go to Arizona. (No offense) Them missing out on Fuller was curious as he would have slotted right into the starting spot as they have no one to run that offense past Matt Scott and he's here for a year

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Urban Meyer already working his magic......

'Smith and alumni association CEO Archie Griffin, a former star running back for the Buckeyes, recorded a personalized video for football recruit Ezekiel Elliott for his official visit to Ohio State on March 31. Recruiting videos are prohibited by the NCAA. Elliott verbally committed to Ohio State as part of the 2013 recruiting class.'

[Cuckoo]

Couple of days late on this, but OU got a commit from Cody Thomas, 4-star QB out of Colleyville, TX, one of the top pro-style QBs in the country that had offers from USC, Alabama, Florida and about 17 others. There's talk he could be a top pick in the baseball draft next season, but if not, it's a nice consolation for losing out on Max Browne. It would add to what is already a solid QB situation at OU after Landry Jones leaves.

Now if our wide receivers could just stop getting suspended...

[MrBug708]

Cravens picked USC

[bigdawg2003]

Ricky Seals-Jones, one of the top 10 recruits in the country, de-committed from Texas yesterday. A lot of rumor$ about why he's now considering A&M, LSU and Baylor on the message boards and Kirk Bohls, the Austin American Statesman sports columnist, gave a lot of 'no comments' in a chat this morning about why RSJ bolted. Will be very interesting to see how this plays out.

[Eaglesfan27]

Cravens picked USC

Another 5 star. This class could end up with the highest average star rating ever.

[JonInMiddleGA]

QB Anthony Jennings: LSU gets son of ex-UGA player | AJC College Sports Recruiting (http://blogs.ajc.com/recruiting/2012/06/07/anthony-jennings-lsu-gets-qb-son-of-former-uga-player/)

Anthony Jennings, a 6-foot-2, 200-pounder from Marietta High School, picked LSU out of his final list of 10 schools, which also included Alabama, Arkansas, Missouri, Oregon, Wisconsin, Nebraska, Ole Miss and Mississippi State. ... Jennings was one of the country’s most-heavily recruited quarterbacks with 39 scholarship offers. Jennings and UGA did not have much contact because the Bulldogs already had a QB commitment from Camden County’s Brice Ramsey.

[Eaglesfan27]

USC got a commitment for 2014 from Junior tackle Jordan Poland who is already 6 foot 8 and 335 pounds.

[Eaglesfan27]

USC got commit #9, WR Steven Mitchell. He is a 4 star from California who had over 20 offers including Oklahoma.

[dawgfan]

Washington picked up a big commitment from QB Troy Williams last Friday. He's a 4-star kid out of SoCal. Landing him takes a lot of the sting away from losing Max Browne to USC. Williams is probably a better fit for the UW right now since our OL is still mediocre (at best) - Williams is a lot more mobile than Browne.

Williams is also widely regarded as a very charismatic kid, and he should help Sark, Tosh & Co. in reeling in some more Cali kids. With Mitchell committing to the Trojans, that leaves Washington in a really good spot with Darrell Daniels & Demorea Stringfellow - both 6'3", big, highly-rated WR's. In fact, Biggins thinks Stringfellow is all but committed to the Huskies and is just waiting to publicly announce.

[Eaglesfan27]

USC got their 2nd huge linemen for the class of 2014 in 3 days as Toa Lobendauhn committed to USC. He is a 6'3 275 pound guard who had offers from multiple schools in the Pac-10. He was offered after he dominated the lineman skills camp at USC this past weekend.

[MrBug708]

UCLA got a verbal from 4* LB from Oaks Christian, Cameron Judge

[CU Tiger]

Greyson, GA 3* DB David Kamara commits to Clemson tonight and agrees to not take anymore visits.

Now anyone who knows me knows I dont get excited much about recruiting especially a 3* CB...but Greyson has 3 D1 players entering their senior seaon. 3/4* borderline running back Wayne Gallman, 3* CD David kamara, and national consensus #1 overall Robert Nekmediche.

All 3 have played together since pop warner and are good friends. In fact David and Rovert actually lived together for 18 months a couple years ago due to some extenuating circumstances. All three have repeatedly said they dreamed of playing college ball together. At this point Gallman and Kamara are both commited to be Tigers....time will tell where big Robert ends up.

But I can definitely promise you this. At the time of his commitment David, Robert and Coach Swinney were in Coaches office together. Just the three of them. When they came out to announce it to the other coaches (this is Clemson's Junior camp week) Robert N had tears in his eyes....

This is a meh clas by our recent standards and we need a whale to anchor it....I hope that whale is Robert Nicantspellyourlastnamebutwetalkedfor45minutesearliertoday....

[CU Tiger]

dola...i need to find that ping drunk guy thread

[JonInMiddleGA]

Nkemdiche is a beast.

And at 6'4 270 he runs a 4.6. forty and had 528 yards and 17 touchdowns on 107 carries.

All-class player of the year: Grayson’s Nkemdiche stands out like few others | Prep Zone: High School Sports (http://blogs.ajc.com/georgia-high-school-sports/2011/12/23/all-class-player-of-the-year-graysons-nkemdiche-stands-out-like-few-others/)

edit to add: Best part about him is, according to a guy I know at Grayson, he's about as nice a kid as you'll ever find.

[CU Tiger]

I interviewed the young man on site yesterday for my buddy's website I help with. I was AMAZED. I would like to meet his parents, or whomever and shake their hand. Very, very respectful. Very polite. Very focused. Talked about the NFL and how his projection arc should put him there if he worked hard and got lucky, but also realized that he needed to get an education and picked a major that would translate into a job in case something happened.

He also is very advanced physically. He has a 25-26 year old body.
Yesterday evening we went to a dinner deal and the family joined me, one of Clemson's coaches and an old friend rode with us to the room (which was maybe 3 miles away from the stadium) when we brought him back I walked in with him because he had something for my son, we bumped into Robert again then and he acted like he and I were old friends and engaged my son. He got my son to get into a football stance, and actually was genuinely interested in him.

He's all class in my book, and I havent seen him play. I hope he is a Tiger just because he is the type of man I like associated with our program.

[Chief Rum]

Sounds like a great kid.

[CU Tiger]

Robert N just committed to coach Swinney and agrees to shut down his recruiting and take no further visits.

Marking Clemson's 3rdcommitt of the day.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Factoid (for those unfamiliar) Nkemdiche's HS head coach roomed and played football together at Alabama with Clemson coach Dabo Swinney.

[CU Tiger]

Damn Jon...it sounded cooler without that factoid ;)

[JonInMiddleGA]

Top prospect Robert Nkemdiche commits to Clemson Tigers - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/football/story/_/id/8054055/top-prospect-robert-nkemdiche-commits-clemson-tigers)

[dawgfan]

Washington got a commitment last night from 4-star WR Darrell Daniels. He's up in Seattle on an unofficial visit. I'm sure Sark will have to work hard to keep him in the fold, but he's a big-time get, right out of the USC mold that Sark likes.

[CU Tiger]

Clemson continues its awesome camp week landing IN 4* DE Elijah Daniel.
Has to be rare to pull a kid from IN who grew up a ND fan with a ND offer and get him to come to the south to an ACC school no less.
Daniel appears very fast on the hoof, he needs to add some strength and size to be an ideal every down DE on the next level

[MrBug708]

UCLA lands 4* OLB from WA, Myles Jack. He's the second highest ranked kid from the state after #1 QB Max Browne. While the kid isn't in trouble, I heard that it's best for him to get out of the state

[dawgfan]

UCLA lands 4* OLB from WA, Myles Jack. He's the second highest ranked kid from the state after #1 QB Max Browne. While the kid isn't in trouble, I heard that it's best for him to get out of the state
Arguable about him being #2 in the state - strong cases could be made for Sean Constantine and Danny Mattingly too.

I've also heard some talk about him needing to get away from home, though it should be noted that he's only been in the state for the last two years and was originally from Georgia. I've also heard some talk that he has some work to do in the classroom to get qualified.

Sounds like he developed a really good relationship with Mora through Mora's son, a teammate of Jack's at Bellevue H.S.

Kid is a good-looking football player, would have liked to have seen him in purple & gold.

[MrBug708]

Jake Worthen (spelling) said that the grades thing was an unfounded mb rumor, but I guess we will know in a few months

[dawgfan]

Jake Worthen (spelling) said that the grades thing was an unfounded mb rumor, but I guess we will know in a few months
Yeah, on the Dawgman boards it's been a battle of sources between Worthen and Eklund regarding Jack's situation.

I was really hoping Sark could make a clean sweep of the in-state LB crew; he got Constantine, but missed on Jack, and Mattingly may be tough to get with Notre Dame being a childhood favorite and programs like Alabama offering.

[MrBug708]

UCLA landed another 425er today in Zach LaVine, but in hoops. Now to recruit Cali better haha

[dawgfan]

Big day for Washington as seven 2013 prospects and one 2014 prospect committed today. All are in town for the UW's Rising Stars camp, and the 2013 guys all decided to announce together publicly during their lunch break. The list includes:

OLB/DE Caleb Tucker
RB Lavon Coleman
DT Elijah Qualls
DE Daeshon Hall
WR Demorea Stringfellow
OL Poasi Moala
DT Andrew Basham

Hall decommitted from Texas, and Stringfellow is generally considered one of the top 2-3 WR on the West Coast; Tucker is from Louisiana. All in all, an impressive group. Hopefully Sark can hang on to all of them through Signing Day...

[Chief Rum]

Funny quote from a Bruin poster at Scout, about these UDub recruits:

All seven of them were quoted as saying "I grew up dreaming of playing in the Las Vegas Bowl for four straight years and I'm finally going to have that chance."

:D

(Yes, I realize how silly that is coming from a supporter of a school which has sucked even more the past decade)

Seriously, though, great pickups for the Dawgs. It will be interesting to see if they are able to keep the out of staters.

[dawgfan]

Seriously, though, great pickups for the Dawgs. It will be interesting to see if they are able to keep the out of staters.
History would say no. Given the quotes from Moala from a few days ago about how his immediate family really wants him at UCLA, I'd guess he's especially going to be a tough one to hang on to. And if the kid from Louisiana blows up his Sr. season, would he turn down an offer from a high-level SEC program?

That said, this is evidence of the impact Tosh Lupoi, Justin Wilcox & Peter Sirmon are having in recruiting for Washington.

[digamma]

Robert N just committed to coach Swinney and agrees to shut down his recruiting and take no further visits.

Slight revision. Recruiting shut down if Clemson offers a scholarship to another Grayson teammate (http://blogs.ajc.com/recruiting/2012/07/06/robert-nkemdiche-clemson-can-seal-the-deal-if-they-offer-another-grayson-teammate/). Gotta love the bargaining.

CU, how are Mr. Nkemdiche's grades and scores? Will he have any issues with the clearinghouse?

[Solecismic]

Slight revision. Recruiting shut down if Clemson offers a scholarship to another Grayson teammate (http://blogs.ajc.com/recruiting/2012/07/06/robert-nkemdiche-clemson-can-seal-the-deal-if-they-offer-another-grayson-teammate/). Gotta love the bargaining.

CU, how are Mr. Nkemdiche's grades and scores? Will he have any issues with the clearinghouse?

What do you do if you're Swinney and you don't think Carter is worth a scholarship?

If you go ahead and offer Carter, you win the battle, but do you lose the war? What does this say about Nkemdiche and his own character issues? There are great players who never come close to greatness because they put themselves first.

I think if I were a Clemson fan, and this story is true, I'd want Swinney to pull the offer to Nkemdiche and use this to motivate the 84 scholarship players still with the program.

[digamma]

What do you do if you're Swinney and you don't think Carter is worth a scholarship?

If you go ahead and offer Carter, you win the battle, but do you lose the war? What does this say about Nkemdiche and his own character issues? There are great players who never come close to greatness because they put themselves first.

I think if I were a Clemson fan, and this story is true, I'd want Swinney to pull the offer to Nkemdiche and use this to motivate the 84 scholarship players still with the program.

I agree with you that you can only offer the Carter kid if he would merit a scholarship on his own. With the 85 ship limit, you can't have many misses and can't take too many fliers on non-contributors--this is particularly true if Nkemdiche is as advertised and is only with the program for 3 years. The other kid is almost certainly a red shirt, so you have him for 5, unless you cut him loose, a tactic which brings its own recruiting issues.

I don't think I'd pull the offer to Nkemdiche, but at the same time, you can't capitulate.

[CU Tiger]

Slight revision. Recruiting shut down if Clemson offers a scholarship to another Grayson teammate (http://blogs.ajc.com/recruiting/2012/07/06/robert-nkemdiche-clemson-can-seal-the-deal-if-they-offer-another-grayson-teammate/). Gotta love the bargaining.

CU, how are Mr. Nkemdiche's grades and scores? Will he have any issues with the clearinghouse?

What do you do if you're Swinney and you don't think Carter is worth a scholarship?

If you go ahead and offer Carter, you win the battle, but do you lose the war? What does this say about Nkemdiche and his own character issues? There are great players who never come close to greatness because they put themselves first.

I think if I were a Clemson fan, and this story is true, I'd want Swinney to pull the offer to Nkemdiche and use this to motivate the 84 scholarship players still with the program.

I agree with you that you can only offer the Carter kid if he would merit a scholarship on his own. With the 85 ship limit, you can't have many misses and can't take too many fliers on non-contributors--this is particularly true if Nkemdiche is as advertised and is only with the program for 3 years. The other kid is almost certainly a red shirt, so you have him for 5, unless you cut him loose, a tactic which brings its own recruiting issues.

I don't think I'd pull the offer to Nkemdiche, but at the same time, you can't capitulate.


First, RN is a high 3.8+ guy and scored a 1100 SAT as a Junior....he will full qualify anywhere he wants to play....Ive said before I consider him to be a great kid and this story today which pisses me off doesn't change that.

Now all that said....Michael Carvel of the AJC who wrote this article may be the biggest piece of shit in American journalism...and thats saying something.

The interview was conducted with RN's defacto father in the room, a friend of mine who is a reporter has been in touch with RN and the father figure today. According to both the question was asked like this,

"So it looks like 3 Grayson seniors are going to Clemson and now news that last year's starting QB Nick Schuessler But thats up to the Clemson coaches and Ryan. But it would be great to play with him

Carvel: So that is something that could change your committment, if another school was to offer Ryan and wanted to take all 4 of the Grayson seniors.?

RN: Wow. Yeah I mean we would have to talk about that I know we would all like to play together.


Left out in all this is RB Wayne Gallman and DB Kamara committed to Clemson before RN, and each have said today they are firm and not interested in looking further. So essentially RN is only open to looking if an opportunity comes iup for all 5 to play somewhere together and thats not happening because the other 2 arent leaving. And his defacto parents biological son has enrolled at Clemson.

Clemson's entire coaching staff is on a 3 week vacation, but this will be shut down quickly by coach Con down at Grayson and I've heard he in fact has already had a meeting today with RN about the impact of his words being misrepresented.

Further I am told Carvel is no longer welcome on the HS campus.

Now RN is a kid and a good kid, I'm not 100% confident he doesnt start to look around, especially if Clemson stumbles this year, but this dirt bag's story is a fabrication.

[CU Tiger]

Dola - Carter is a D2 fringe D1 guy. He would do well at Ga St or ECU. Hes good enough to play beyond HS but would ride the pine anywhere in the ACC....assuming he doesnt grow and such this year.

[CU Tiger]

Double Dola - RN tweet tonight "Man I don't like ajc twisting up my words.. Go Tigers"

[Crapshoot]

What do you do if you're Swinney and you don't think Carter is worth a scholarship?

If you go ahead and offer Carter, you win the battle, but do you lose the war? What does this say about Nkemdiche and his own character issues? There are great players who never come close to greatness because they put themselves first.

I think if I were a Clemson fan, and this story is true, I'd want Swinney to pull the offer to Nkemdiche and use this to motivate the 84 scholarship players still with the program.

Wait, seriously? The college scholarship is the biggest piece of crap around, a one way contract for 4 years that the school (and I use that word lightly when referring to the SEC) can withdraw at any time. More power to the kid; why on earth is he not allowed to use leverage the way everyone else can? I'm with Staples here.

No. 1 Robert Nkemdiche leveraging Clemson scholarship - Andy Staples - SI.com (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/andy_staples/07/06/robert-nkemdiche-clemson-scholarship-demand/index.html?eref=sihp&sct=hp_wr_a4)

[CU Tiger]

BTW one final piece....Carter has a 2.2 GPA with 2 incompletes he is attempting to improve in SS this summer. If not it goes sub mendoza...he isnt even scholly eligible most likely.

So if he were dirty Swinney would offer, accept the commitment and then after signing day apologize because young Ryan couldnt qualify.

[Eaglesfan27]

USC got commit #12 today from 4 star OL Khaliel Rodgers. He is a big nasty linemen who plays with toughness. There are reports that 3 more commits are going to announce in the next few weeks as well. Decent chance the class could be full before the season even starts.

[MrBug708]

Nico Falah should be committing tomorrow to you guys.

[Eaglesfan27]

Nico Falah should be committing tomorrow to you guys.

Yep. Also, I expect 4 star (probably 5 star soon with his recent camp performances) CB Jalen Ramsey to commit to USC soon. Wouldn't be surprised if Max Redfield pulls the trigger soon too.

[MrBug708]

UCLA should land Christian Morris, 4* OT from Tennessee, tomorrow. Nebraska is also in the running

[CU Tiger]

Morris is UCLAs

[bhlloy]

Trojans gets Falah as expected but also get Eddie Vanderdoes which is an absolutely huge commitment and not expected at all. If this class sticks, it's an all-timer

[MrBug708]

Probably will end up USC's second best class of the past ten years

[Eaglesfan27]

Trojans gets Falah as expected but also get Eddie Vanderdoes which is an absolutely huge commitment and not expected at all. If this class sticks, it's an all-timer

Yep. Great class! I thought Vanderdoes was all Duck - big surprise! Going to be time pressure for more to commit before all of the spots fill up. Only 4 or 5 (if Darreus Rogers doesn't qualify) spots left.

[Chief Rum]

Yep. Great class! I thought Vanderdoes was all Duck - big surprise! Going to be time pressure for more to commit before all of the spots fill up. Only 4 or 5 (if Darreus Rogers doesn't qualify) spots left.

4 or 5? Last I checked you guys only had 1-2 left, assuming Ramsey commits. You were already at like 9-10 commits before the commits from the past few days, and you only have 15 rides.

[Chief Rum]

Regardless, BTW, damn good class, assuming it sticks. USC turned the sanctions around and made recruits commit early to "keep their spot". Smart strategy.

[Matthean]

Scout has USC listed at having one spot left.

[Eaglesfan27]

4 or 5? Last I checked you guys only had 1-2 left, assuming Ramsey commits. You were already at like 9-10 commits before the commits from the past few days, and you only have 15 rides.

We can take 18 (with 3 EE's) if Rogers qualifies, 19 (with 4 EE's) if he doesn't. We already have 4 good candidates for those EE spots as Ty Isaac's school has approved his request to be allowed to graduate early.

[Chief Rum]

How many EEs did you have last year?

[Eaglesfan27]

How many EEs did you have last year?

I don't recall for sure, but I think 4? I think that only 12 of last year's class counted towards the 15, but I'm positive we have 3 EE's available this year and 1 more if Rogers doesn't academically qualify.

[dawgfan]

I don't recall for sure, but I think 4? I think that only 12 of last year's class counted towards the 15, but I'm positive we have 3 EE's available this year and 1 more if Rogers doesn't academically qualify.
Yeah, everything I've read is that USC can take up to 18 if they get 3 early entry kids. They'll probably get even more commits than that and pare back as they get to Signing Day, or ask some kids to greyshirt.

[Eaglesfan27]

Yeah, everything I've read is that USC can take up to 18 if they get 3 early entry kids. They'll probably get even more commits than that and pare back as they get to Signing Day, or ask some kids to greyshirt.

Some offers won't be there anymore if the kids don't commit soon. I also wouldn't be surprised if Kiffin pulls offers if kids take visits after committing. They already have at least 4 kids on pace to be EE's.

[MrBug708]

UCLA landed Christian Morris!

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Ouch. A tweet from Raekwon McMillian, a five star recruit in the 2014 class......

"Got letters from Penn St. ,, they ALL went in the trash lol"

[Eaglesfan27]

4 star CB (likely soon to get his 5th) Jalen Ramsey committed to USC today. His commitment puts USC at #1 in the Rivals Rankings.

[MrBug708]

Is he getting Nico's fourth star?

[Eaglesfan27]

4 star S Max Redfield committed to USC today. They also got a commitment for 2014 from OL Casey Tucker.

[Matthean]

And so it begins, Ross Douglas, 4* CB, commits to Michigan after he was committed to PSU. He de-committed from PSU, and Michigan offered again. Losing the guy is one thing. Losing him to an in conference rival is worse.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8195590/ross-douglas-commits-michigan-wolverines-de-committing-penn-state-nittany-lions

[muns]

Penn State Nittany Lions -- Silas Redd undecided as other players get openly recruited - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8199175/penn-state-nittany-lions-silas-redd-undecided-other-players-get-openly-recruited)

This to me again is just sending the wrong message and is just plain stupid by the ncaa.

So you are going to let other college coaches go to the campus and camp outside their football facility? They are making the "us vs the world" argument even worse.

In the 48 hours since the NCAA levied unprecedented sanctions against the program, an extraordinary recruiting frenzy has played out on Penn State's campus, where players are working out. At noon Wednesday, several groups of coaches from opposing teams were waiting in the Lasch Football Building parking lot to recruit Penn State players.

"Our players are in our building right now and they don't want to leave the building because there are coaches from other schools in the parking lot waiting to see them," said O'Brien, who spent the morning at ESPN's Bristol, Conn. campus.

[Logan]

Penn State Nittany Lions -- Silas Redd undecided as other players get openly recruited - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8199175/penn-state-nittany-lions-silas-redd-undecided-other-players-get-openly-recruited)

This to me again is just sending the wrong message and is just plain stupid by the ncaa.

So you are going to let other college coaches go to the campus and camp outside their football facility? They are making the "us vs the world" argument even worse.

Is your issue that they're allowing the players to be recruited, or that they're allowing opposing schools on PSU's campus to recruit them?

[muns]

Is your issue that they're allowing the players to be recruited, or that they're allowing opposing schools on PSU's campus to recruit them?

On campus to recruit them. They can call however many times a day that it is allowed and set up visits, heck I wouldn't mind them coming to campus if that kid wanted them to be there (I understand some might now have cars and such to go off campus). Just to sit out and camp there, or to come feel them out though seems wrong to me.

[Lathum]

I find this weird

Quarterback Tate Martell, 14, commits to Washington Huskies - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8200394/quarterback-tate-martell-14-commits-washington-huskies)

[dawgfan]

I find this weird

Quarterback Tate Martell, 14, commits to Washington Huskies - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8200394/quarterback-tate-martell-14-commits-washington-huskies)
My guess is this is mostly about publicity for Clarkson. A number of his pupils have signed with Sark, and this may be a return favor of sorts.

[MrBug708]

Tosh playing Xbox?

[MrBug708]

Vernon Hargreaves picks Florida as he didnt want to compete

[Logan]

Vernon Hargreaves picks Florida as he didnt want to compete

This is big for Rutgers fans. 4* CB Nadir Barnwell had RU and Florida in his top 2, and he was heading down there for their Friday Night Lights camp this weekend. Hargreaves is their 3rd DB commit so they might be done.

[Eaglesfan27]

4 star DE Jason Hatcher committed to USC today. He is their 17th commitment.

[tarcone]

Isnt USC limited to 15 schollies?

[Chief Rum]

Isnt USC limited to 15 schollies?

They have four EEs, so they can take up to 19 players, so long as four of them fill the EE spots.

They could also grayshirt players, although not sure that would help them too much since that just takes away scholies from the 2014 class.

I haven't seen official confirmation yet, but I believe they are getting Silas Redd to transfer in from PSU, too. He will take up one of those "EE" spots.

USC is indeed reaching the end of their scholies, though. Kennard getting hurt and maybe redshirting won't help either, since they are also still limited by 75 rides total for their roster and they are pretty close to right at that limit.

[Eaglesfan27]

USC got a commit from 4 star DE Torrodney Prevot out of Houston today. A surprising commit who wasn't high on the radar.

[MrBug708]

Wonder where Fitts will go now :)

[Eaglesfan27]

Not a 2013 recruit, but Penn State running back Silas Redd is transferring to USC and will play immediately bolstering the depth for a NC run.

[Matthean]

Not a 2013 recruit, but Penn State running back Silas Redd is transferring to USC and will play immediately bolstering the depth for a NC run.

I'm shocked somebody wants to leave a hell hole and go play for a title. :D

[dawgfan]

I'm still skeptical USC's depth overall will hold out enough to allow for an undefeated season, but getting Redd helps a great deal in adding quality depth to one of their thinnest positions.

[dawgfan]

dola -

Washington lands a pretty good OL prospect in Sean Harlow (son of former USC 1st round pick Pat Harlow). He's a 3-star in both Scout.com and Rivals.com databases, but his offer list suggests he may be underrated as he supposedly had offers from everyone in the Pac-12 other than USC & Stanford, plus Nebraska, Wisconsin & Boise State among others.

[Logan]

Zach Bradshaw decommitted from Penn State. He's a 3* WR with good size and a nice offer list.

[Kodos]

Hoosiers score four-star Antonio Allen - On The Trail Blog - ESPN (http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/ncfrecruiting/on-the-trail/post?id=18023)

Hoosiers get commitment from 4* safety Antonio Allen. Please, not repeat of the Gunner Kiel recruitment...

[cartman]

UCLA Bruins coach Jim Mora says 'We don't have murders one block off our campus' - ESPN Los Angeles (http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/ncf/story/_/id/8253684/ucla-bruins-coach-jim-mora-says-murders-one-block-our-campus)

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

USC under investigation for possible major violations.

Report -- NCAA looking into allegations surrounding former USC Trojans players - ESPN Los Angeles (http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/ncf/story/_/id/8339246/report-ncaa-looking-allegations-surrounding-former-usc-trojans-players)

[Chief Rum]

USC under investigation for possible major violations.

Report -- NCAA looking into allegations surrounding former USC Trojans players - ESPN Los Angeles (http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/ncf/story/_/id/8339246/report-ncaa-looking-allegations-surrounding-former-usc-trojans-players)

What's stupid about this is that the Joe McKnight thing was all over the local boards and the local Internet talk right around the same time the NCAA was wrapping up the Bush investigation. Everyone presumed at the time that the McKnight thing would be a part of that, and then the NCAA publication on the sanctions didn't mention one word of it.

It's really odd to see this be "breaking news" now.

It was suggested at the time that the NCAA would continue to look into McKnight, but honestly, I don't think anyone believed it.

[JonInMiddleGA]

I ain't got no particular love for Clemson, but I hate to see crap like this.

Robert Nkemdiche’s mother “unhappy” with Clemson, per ESPN | AJC College Sports Recruiting (http://blogs.ajc.com/recruiting/2012/09/05/robert-nkemdiches-mother-unhappy-with-clemson-per-espn/?cxntfid=blogs_recruiting)

[cartman]

Ricky Seals-Jones might have blown out a knee in his high school game tonight. He was carted off the field in an air cast.

[Matthean]

Ricky Seals-Jones might have blown out a knee in his high school game tonight. He was carted off the field in an air cast.

Seems less severe. Ricky Seals-Jones suffers knee injury - Texas Longhorns Blog - ESPN (http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/colleges/texas/post/_/id/6631/ricky-seals-jones-suffers-knee-injury)

[cartman]

Hopefully that is the case. They had the game on at the bar last night, and he was in a lot of pain when they carted him off.

[Matthean]

Oops.

Four-star Alabama recruit Deon Johnson charged with second-degree rape - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8348593/four-star-alabama-recruit-deon-johnson-charged-second-degree-rape)

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Oops.

Four-star Alabama recruit Deon Johnson charged with second-degree rape - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8348593/four-star-alabama-recruit-deon-johnson-charged-second-degree-rape)

Was it a legitimate rape?

[CU Tiger]

I ain't got no particular love for Clemson, but I hate to see crap like this.

Robert Nkemdiche’s mother “unhappy” with Clemson, per ESPN | AJC College Sports Recruiting (http://blogs.ajc.com/recruiting/2012/09/05/robert-nkemdiches-mother-unhappy-with-clemson-per-espn/?cxntfid=blogs_recruiting)

Its a non-issue his mother has no legal guardianship over him. She has rarely been a part of his life. She is out of the country because she ran off with a flavor of the month.

His legal guardian is one of the HS assistant coaches whose natural son just enrolled at Clemson as a walk on QB after giving up a scholly to Ole Miss...

There are people who may influence Robert's decision. I do not think Clemson is a done deal here, BUT his mom's opinion will play ZERO factor.

[digamma]

First, RN is a high 3.8+ guy and scored a 1100 SAT as a Junior....he will full qualify anywhere he wants to play....

He seems to disagree.

"The first thing I have to take care of is my grades. I will take the ACT for the first time on May 5th. Right now, I have a 2.6 GPA (http://www.alabamaintel.com/articles/robert-nkemdiche-always-looking-for-ways-to-become-a-better-player) and I want to improve that as well."

Still in full qualifier range, but not a ton of breathing room. Hopefully he buckles down his senior year.

[cartman]

CmfThirdPartyHeader - Houston Chronicle (http://blog.chron.com/prepsports/2012/09/ricky-seals-jones-gets-good-news-after-thursdays-knee-injury/)

An MRI shows that Ricky Seals-Jones didn't suffer any ligament damage, and won't need surgery.

[Ksyrup]

So what's going on with Eddie Printz and UCLA? They withdrew his offer, for what reason? It certainly doesn't look good for the school to be doing that. I think that's twice with Georgia players that I can recall. At first I thought he decommitted because of Hundley, but now it's being reported that they've pulled his offer.

[Logan]

Since I've seen him talked about here...

Reports: Texas No Longer Recruiting Ricky Seals-Jones - SBNation.com (http://www.sbnation.com/college-football-recruiting/2012/9/12/3324552/ricky-seals-jones-no-longer-being-recruited-by-texas-longhorns-lsu-tigers-texas-aggies)

[MrBug708]

So what's going on with Eddie Printz and UCLA? They withdrew his offer, for what reason? It certainly doesn't look good for the school to be doing that. I think that's twice with Georgia players that I can recall. At first I thought he decommitted because of Hundley, but now it's being reported that they've pulled his offer.

The offer was never pulled, but he was told he might as well start looking around. The usual, we'll keep you, but you'll never play.

I'm assuming you read the AJC article? To make a long story short, the dad signed onto ucla.scout.com and was ripping his sons recruiting evaluation by the staff of scout.

Much ado about nothing, but since the coaches cannot comment on kids, they are the victim 10 times out of 10.

[Ksyrup]

I saw it in passing on twitter yesterday and then a short article this morning, but not sure where from. Initially reports on twitter were he decommitted. I guess the spin from his dad/coach this morning has changed the discussion. I know it's probably not all that unusual, but if it's true they kept stringing him along for months and then started giving him hints he ought to look elsewhere without coming out and telling him they don'twant him and why, then I can understand the frustration from the family.

[MrBug708]

I think UCLA was dumb for promising him to be the lone kid and UCLA isn't even recruiting an uncommitted QB or on they haven't had an offer out for awhile. I would imagine his bad Sumner at camps and Hundley looking good is the biggest reason

[MrBug708]

Here is Greg Biggins take. Sorry for the formatting
Kind of an amateurish article, very one sided obviously but here's my take on a few errors in the article.

This is the second time within the last couple of months that a top Georgia prospect and UCLA have parted ways.Keyante Green, a running back from Eagles Landing Christian Academy, switched to Purdue over the summer because he hadn’t heard much from UCLA after committing to the Bruins last February.

One of the big reasons coaches love early commits is to alleviate having to recruit said player during the season. Once a player commits, they can move on to other non-committed prospects. I know now a days, committed recruits still want to be shown the love but to me, it's kind of a week reason to de-commit and in no way, did UCLA ever approach Green and tell him they were pulling his offer. I thought it was a weird fit in the first place and Lee is a huge upgrade but that's another topic.

“I really shocked and disappointed with how this went down with UCLA,” Lassiter coach Jep Irwin said. “They haven’t been genuine and forthright through this whole thing. It appears they used Eddie, maybe to attract other recruits. Or maybe they have another recruit closer to home they ended up liking better.

Used Eddie to attract other recruits? Yeh, last I checked, and forgive me for being blunt here but it's the truth, Eddie is an average, mid to low level Div I QB. Top recruits aren't exactly beating down the door to play with guys like that. As for liking another recruit closer to home- I would say that's accurate but also don't see anything wrong with pursuing another player you feel helps your program. To quote my guy Dan Hawkins- "It's Division I football! It's the Big 12 (sub in Pac 12 here)! It ain't intramurals!

Printz’s father said he had to do some investigative work to find out the scholarship offer was no longer being honored.

My understanding is UCLA never said they weren't honoring the scholarship, only said they're evaluating other QBs. Does UCLA deserve some blame for telling the family they were done with QBs and then going back on that? Sure, not excusing that, but again, as an elite program, you're constantly evaluating what's best for your program and if you see other players out there who can help you, you would be foolish not to recruit them. At the time UCLA offered and brought in Printz, he was the top guy on their board. Fast forward a few months and that's no longer the case. What would be more honorable, signing Printz, having him to sit the bench for a few years and then transferring out or since scholies are one year renewable, telling him after a year they want to go in a different direction?

And as for the staff not getting right back to Printz' father, if they called or emailed him back every time he had a question or concern, trust me, they would spend half their day on the phone, that man is a lot of work.

Eddie took classes so he could graduate early and start college early at UCLA. He didn’t go visit colleges over the summer, and probably turned down 20-25 offers, because he was a 100-percent Bruin. Eddie was always planning to graduate early, even before he committed to UCLA so that was a non-issue. He actually did visit colleges, Auburn twice, who despite what the family claimed, never actually offered him along with every other program in the SEC outside of Arkansas, Vandy and Kentucky.

Ironic how Eddie's coach uses the word, 'disgusting' to describe the treatment he feels his QB received while not acknowledging they basically did the same exact thing to SMU.

I guess the real issue here is, did UCLA drop Printz or did they decide to recruit another QB which caused Eddie to de-commit, feeling like UCLA broke a promise made to him. We see the side of the Printz family in this article and I'm sure if UCLA could comment, the story would likely lean towards wanting to bring in another QB and never actually telling Eddie his offer was being pulled.

It's definitely an unfortunate situation and i do feel for Eddie, who's a good kid. As Tracy pointed out though, moving forward, I think it's definitely a win-win for both party's. Printz was never going to play at UCLA, just not good enough and hopefully he'll find a new home where he'll be given that opportunity. For UCLA, even if they don't land Troy Williams or Hayden Rettig, it frees up a scholarship and they can now recruit a 2014 QB and point out they didn't take a QB directly in front of him.

[cschex]

Bug, what's the general UCLA feeling on Rettig? He's said all the right things and seems very solid to LSU, but we have another 4* QB in the class and I remember Cassius Marsh saying all the right things a week before committing to UCLA.

[Chief Rum]

I'll fix this the way it should look. Bold for the article, not bold for Biggins' responses/takes. Biggins is a big time recruiting insider for Scout.com and used to be pretty much the only good thing going for ESPN's recruiting site.

Here is Greg Biggins take. Sorry for the formatting.


GB: Kind of an amateurish article, very one sided obviously but here's my take on a few errors in the article.

This is the second time within the last couple of months that a top Georgia prospect and UCLA have parted ways.Keyante Green, a running back from Eagles Landing Christian Academy, switched to Purdue over the summer because he hadn’t heard much from UCLA after committing to the Bruins last February.

GB: One of the big reasons coaches love early commits is to alleviate having to recruit said player during the season. Once a player commits, they can move on to other non-committed prospects. I know now a days, committed recruits still want to be shown the love but to me, it's kind of a week reason to de-commit and in no way, did UCLA ever approach Green and tell him they were pulling his offer. I thought it was a weird fit in the first place and Lee is a huge upgrade but that's another topic.

“I really shocked and disappointed with how this went down with UCLA,” Lassiter coach Jep Irwin said. “They haven’t been genuine and forthright through this whole thing. It appears they used Eddie, maybe to attract other recruits. Or maybe they have another recruit closer to home they ended up liking better.

GB: Used Eddie to attract other recruits? Yeh, last I checked, and forgive me for being blunt here but it's the truth, Eddie is an average, mid to low level Div I QB. Top recruits aren't exactly beating down the door to play with guys like that. As for liking another recruit closer to home- I would say that's accurate but also don't see anything wrong with pursuing another player you feel helps your program. To quote my guy Dan Hawkins- "It's Division I football! It's the Big 12 (sub in Pac 12 here)! It ain't intramurals!

Printz’s father said he had to do some investigative work to find out the scholarship offer was no longer being honored.

GB: My understanding is UCLA never said they weren't honoring the scholarship, only said they're evaluating other QBs. Does UCLA deserve some blame for telling the family they were done with QBs and then going back on that? Sure, not excusing that, but again, as an elite program, you're constantly evaluating what's best for your program and if you see other players out there who can help you, you would be foolish not to recruit them. At the time UCLA offered and brought in Printz, he was the top guy on their board. Fast forward a few months and that's no longer the case. What would be more honorable, signing Printz, having him to sit the bench for a few years and then transferring out or since scholies are one year renewable, telling him after a year they want to go in a different direction?

And as for the staff not getting right back to Printz' father, if they called or emailed him back every time he had a question or concern, trust me, they would spend half their day on the phone, that man is a lot of work.

Eddie took classes so he could graduate early and start college early at UCLA. He didn’t go visit colleges over the summer, and probably turned down 20-25 offers, because he was a 100-percent Bruin.

GB: Eddie was always planning to graduate early, even before he committed to UCLA so that was a non-issue. He actually did visit colleges, Auburn twice, who despite what the family claimed, never actually offered him along with every other program in the SEC outside of Arkansas, Vandy and Kentucky

Ironic how Eddie's coach uses the word, 'disgusting' to describe the treatment he feels his QB received while not acknowledging they basically did the same exact thing to SMU.

I guess the real issue here is, did UCLA drop Printz or did they decide to recruit another QB which caused Eddie to de-commit, feeling like UCLA broke a promise made to him. We see the side of the Printz family in this article and I'm sure if UCLA could comment, the story would likely lean towards wanting to bring in another QB and never actually telling Eddie his offer was being pulled.

It's definitely an unfortunate situation and i do feel for Eddie, who's a good kid. As Tracy pointed out though, moving forward, I think it's definitely a win-win for both party's. Printz was never going to play at UCLA, just not good enough and hopefully he'll find a new home where he'll be given that opportunity. For UCLA, even if they don't land Troy Williams or Hayden Rettig, it frees up a scholarship and they can now recruit a 2014 QB and point out they didn't take a QB directly in front of him.

Hope that clears up Bug's post a bit.

[cartman]

The Texas boards are discussing the announcement about RSJ. The three main theories are (since coaches can't comment, who really knows): 1) this is a ploy to get him to recommit, 2) his injury is worse than they are letting on, or 3) they are seeing a repeat of Lache Seastrunk

[Chief Rum]

Bug, what's the general UCLA feeling on Rettig? He's said all the right things and seems very solid to LSU, but we have another 4* QB in the class and I remember Cassius Marsh saying all the right things a week before committing to UCLA.

Never say never when it comes to recruiting nowadays, but the word around UCLA's scout.com site seems to be that Rettig remains pretty solid to LSU. Rettig did not attend UCLA's game against Nebraska, despite the fact UCLA's OC was out to see him the night before and presumeably he got an invite (there were a ton of recruits at the Rose Bowl last Saturday). There is reportedly some interest, but in my own judgment of what I have heard about, I would classify that interest as "well, okay, I'll take the phone call if it's just for 5 minutes..." level of interest. I would guess that Rettig and UCLA have only been in contact with one another as fallbacks to this point. If nothing sours Rettig on LSU between now and NSD, I think you're golden.

[MrBug708]

I think with Hundley, the don't care as much about a QB this class. They like Ricks kid as a backup

[JonInMiddleGA]

The claims about how the kid "did the same thing" to SMU ring pretty hollow. The coach that was recruiting him for the Mustangs left, the head coach situation was up in the air. That adds considerable shades of gray to things at the very least.

Mora, on the other hand, is an incredibly unlikable slimeball.

[Ksyrup]

Yeah, he followed his recruiter to UCLA, so I'm guessing he was encouraged to do so by the very people who now have told him they aren't interested months later.

[Chief Rum]

Oh, no doubt. UCLA is not crystal clear on this, and yes, Printz committed to UCLA (sight unseen at the time, in fact), because OL coach and recruiter extraordinaire Adrian Klemm was brought over from SMU.

This is the story of Printz' recruiting, as far as I recall. This is all off of the top of my head, so forgive me if I get a detail here and there wrong. I think it will be by and large mostly correct.

Printz in fact is probably about a good level for SMU. At the time Mora took over at UCLA and Klemm came over, UCLA's QB spot was in a considerable shambles. Printz, a 2013 recruit, committed before signing day last year, in fact, IIRC. At that point in time, UCLA had two senior to be QBs with very mixed records (Brehaut, Prince), a well-regarded but unproven RS frosh QB (Hundley) and the son of the just fired coach (Jerry Neuheisel). The staff had not signed TJ Millweard or Devin Fuller yet. So they offered on Klemm's recommendation and accepted the commitment from Printz. He was regarded as a player with some upside, but maybe a little below the level they would never have accepted. But the position was in a shambles, and they weren't sure they could get a top QB to commit at the time.

To my knowledge, that original commitment did not come with a guarantee that no other QB would be recruited, and in fact, several, such as Browne who committed to USC and Rettig with LSU already had offers from UCLA. It wasn't until later when Printz started camping with schools closer to his Georgia home--Auburn in particular being one--that the two sides committed to each other, Printz would not do more camps, UCLA would not recruit another QB in the 2013 class.

At this point, Printz was still being evaluated based on HS tape and the like. Some scouts back east didn't really think he was all that good, but since he was coming out for a local QB camp and 7 on 7 tourney in June, UCLA and western recruiting scouts bided their time to see him put in some work in front of them. Apparently, Printz did not grade well at these at all. He didn't show the zip on his throws they expected, he had an oddly thrown ball and he made some poor field decisions. Pretty much every scout I read a report on agreed he was not much better than a mid-level prospect and seemed unlikely to ever be good enough to start at UCLA. Despite all this, UCLA did stick with their commitment to him.

To my knowledge, they never backed down from their commitment to him and they never pulled his offer. Where they backed up a bit was to keep tabs on other options, just in case. Who is to know if they intended to actually accept a commitment from another QB? Maybe they would have, I don't know. But all they did here was go see a top level local prospect play. That's not pulling Printz's offer. That's not even accepting a commitment from another QB. That's just normal recruiting. Any kid or parent expecting a school to just completely shut down all of its evaluation or talent analysis at a position because of the scholie commit is deluding themselves.

So UCLA does not look good for promising to not recruit another QB and then still showing interest elsewhere. But I view the promise as unreasonable to begin with, and if that is what Printz required to commit, then, honestly, UCLA should have walked away from the start.

[Logan]

4* ATH Nadir Barnwell to Rutgers.

[dawgfan]

Looks like former 4* CB recruit Travell Dixon has ended up at Washington. He'd originally committed to Alabama out of Eastern Arizona JC but they parted ways after Spring practices. He'll sit out 2012 and have 2 to play 2 starting with the 2013 season.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Excited to see that Laquon Treadwell has scheduled an official visit to Mizzou for the Vanderbilt game. Landing him would give Mizzou the #1 WR two years in a row.

Laquon Treadwell - Yahoo! Sports (http://rivals.yahoo.com/missouri/football/recruiting/player-Laquon-Treadwell-127250)

[Matthean]

Excited to see that Laquon Treadwell has scheduled an official visit to Mizzou for the Vanderbilt game. Landing him would give Mizzou the #1 WR two years in a row.

Laquon Treadwell - Yahoo! Sports (http://rivals.yahoo.com/missouri/football/recruiting/player-Laquon-Treadwell-127250)

If you guys could recruit a QB you could win the national championship in FOF: CY. :lol:

[BishopMVP]

Notre Dame picks up another 4* commitment from WR Torii Hunter Jr. (One of the Angels Torii Hunter's multiple D1 prospect sons, and not the one accused of rape.) Overall, this year doesn't seem to have the drama of past years, but I'm sure it'll pick up in January.

[CU Tiger]

Excited to see that Laquon Treadwell has scheduled an official visit to Mizzou for the Vanderbilt game. Landing him would give Mizzou the #1 WR two years in a row.

Laquon Treadwell - Yahoo! Sports (http://rivals.yahoo.com/missouri/football/recruiting/player-Laquon-Treadwell-127250)


He is a far cry from DGb...rated 23 overall by rivals. And to be fair, Isaac the USC commit is listed as a rb which he plays in HS, will play WR/slot for the Trojans.

Last time I talked to laquon, I left thinking it was a ND/Florida battle. But I haven't tracked him for TI in months.

[MacroGuru]

Well, I know this doesn't affect a lot of teams out there but the Mormon church just announced at their general conference the lowering of missionary ages from 19 to 18. It means that highly touted LDS recruit that chooses to go on a mission will not see your campus for about 2 to 3 years.

This absolutely forces changes at BYU, Utah, Utah State and the other Utah schools. But I think it also causes some serious issues with some of the other schools out there that have been recruiting the talent.

[Matthean]

He gets talked about on Wolverine Nation as well. Michigan could use just about anything at WR, but I have little hope he lands there.

[dawgfan]

Well, I know this doesn't affect a lot of teams out there but the Mormon church just announced at their general conference the lowering of missionary ages from 19 to 18. It means that highly touted LDS recruit that chooses to go on a mission will not see your campus for about 2 to 3 years.

This absolutely forces changes at BYU, Utah, Utah State and the other Utah schools. But I think it also causes some serious issues with some of the other schools out there that have been recruiting the talent.
It's probably a bigger issue for BYU recruits than for most other schools. The vast majority of LDS recruits that have come to the UW - even the ones that were sure they would take a mission - never ended up leaving to take their mission. I would suspect the pressure to take a mission is a lot higher for LDS kids attending BYU, and to a lesser extent the other Utah schools due to peer pressure. That peer pressure likely isn't as strong elsewhere (with the possible exception of Hawai'i).

[MacroGuru]

It's probably a bigger issue for BYU recruits than for most other schools. The vast majority of LDS recruits that have come to the UW - even the ones that were sure they would take a mission - never ended up leaving to take their mission. I would suspect the pressure to take a mission is a lot higher for LDS kids attending BYU, and to a lesser extent the other Utah schools due to peer pressure. That peer pressure likely isn't as strong elsewhere (with the possible exception of Hawai'i).

I know it's a big issue for Utah and Utah State but you are correct on the level it is with BYU, but I wouldn't necessarily call it peer pressure. They are going to BYU because it fits into the plans and they have the coaching to have them ready when they get off their mission.

I am just curious as we are starting to see a lot more LDS athletes recruited into schools outside of Utah and how most of them see it.

[dawgfan]

I know it's a big issue for Utah and Utah State but you are correct on the level it is with BYU, but I wouldn't necessarily call it peer pressure. They are going to BYU because it fits into the plans and they have the coaching to have them ready when they get off their mission.
Maybe peer pressure is the wrong phrasing; I would agree that LDS kids more inclined to want to take their mission are probably more inclined to pick BYU if offered.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Nkemdiche talks about the family turmoil surrounding his recruiting and seems to admit that things are quite completely over just yet.

Robert Nkemdiche: Clemson’s star recruit says family is torn between colleges | AJC College Sports Recruiting (http://blogs.ajc.com/recruiting/2012/10/10/robert-nkemdiche-clemson-de-says-family-is-torn-between-colleges/?cxntfid=blogs_recruiting)

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Eddie Printz Jr. commited to Mizzou yesterday while in Columbia.

[MrBug708]

Haha...good luck with that

[Matthean]

#1 G in the nation David Dawson decommitted from Michigan and will obviously look at other schools. Hoke's policy is if you look elsewhere after you commit, Michigan doesn't keep coming after you. He's a Cass Tech guy, which is a virtual pipeline for Michigan. It will be interesting to see where he goes because I don't see him coming back.

[Kodos]

4* DE David Kenney has decommitted from Iowa and it appears he will be committing to Indiana in the immediate future. This program is making big strides. Lots of excitement around this team!

David Kenney (BasedObama) on Twitter (https://twitter.com/BasedObama)

[tarcone]

Saw that. Too bad for Iowa. But Im surprised he committed to Iowa with his Dad on the IU staff.

[MrBug708]

#1 G in the nation David Dawson decommitted from Michigan and will obviously look at other schools. Hoke's policy is if you look elsewhere after you commit, Michigan doesn't keep coming after you. He's a Cass Tech guy, which is a virtual pipeline for Michigan. It will be interesting to see where he goes because I don't see him coming back.

This is a stupid rule for coaches to have. UCLA had it with Toledo and half of the "uncommitted" top guys have probably already told a coach that he was going there anyways.

[Kodos]

Steve Wiltfong ‏@SWiltfong247
Indianapolis North Central Top100 DL Darius Latham tells me he decommitted from Wisconsin. http://wisconsin.247...-has-13149131 … via @247Sports

Another 4-star player decommits from a Big Ten team and is rumored to be bound for IU...

[mauchow]

THat would sting...

[Kodos]

4* DE David Kenney has decommitted from Iowa and it appears he will be committing to Indiana in the immediate future. This program is making big strides. Lots of excitement around this team!

David Kenney (BasedObama) on Twitter (https://twitter.com/BasedObama)

Alright, Kenney has committed to IU. Now to get Latham and some of the other top guys in-state to commit.

Jordan Littman ‏@jlittman93

Pike HS defensive end David Kenney commits to IU: Hoosier Hype | Indiana Daily Student | idsnews.com | Four-star David Kenney commits to IU (http://www.idsnews.com/blogs/hoosierhype/?p=20456) … #IUFB
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[Kodos]

4-star athlete Rashard Fant out of Georgia committed to IU today. These are heady days for a team that is used to subsisting on a diet of 2- and 3-star players. It is reported that Darius Latham is going to commit as well. Just a matter of when.

[MacroGuru]

Hows this for the new mission rules hitting BYU hard.

Almost every single one of the 2013 commits have stated they will be leaving on their missions almost immediately.

That is a major blow, meaning we will have to hit the JUCO ranks harder than ever to combat this.

[Matthean]

Michigan got a 2014 commit from a 6'9" OL. Hell, put him on the basketball team and have him play center. :lol:

[Matthean]

Michigan adds a 3* WR in DaMario Jones.

[Matthean]

4 star S Max Redfield committed to USC today.

And decommitted with the Irish being in the lead.

USC Trojans recruit Max Redfield announces decommitment - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/football/story/_/id/8594585/usc-trojans-recruit-max-redfield-announces-decommitment)

[Eaglesfan27]

And decommitted with the Irish being in the lead.

USC Trojans recruit Max Redfield announces decommitment - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/football/story/_/id/8594585/usc-trojans-recruit-max-redfield-announces-decommitment)

I think he will end up at Oregon if not at USC.

[dawgfan]

I think he will end up at Oregon if not at USC.
Oregon is a definite possibility, but it sure sounds like Notre Dame is the school really tugging at his heart.

Also, Eddie Vanderdoes has set up official visits, including one to Washington this weekend. Chances are extremely slim he'll end up with the Huskies, but you never know - kid could have a fantastic visit, and with Tosh recruiting him, you can never say "never".

[MrBug708]

Oregon can wow Max for sure. But Notre Dame has long been the fear.

Who knows what Vanderdoes will do.

Tahaan Goodman can announce he is no longer a silent to sc

[digamma]

Nkemdiche talks about the family turmoil surrounding his recruiting and seems to admit that things are quite completely over just yet.

Robert Nkemdiche: Clemson’s star recruit says family is torn between colleges | AJC College Sports Recruiting (http://blogs.ajc.com/recruiting/2012/10/10/robert-nkemdiche-clemson-de-says-family-is-torn-between-colleges/?cxntfid=blogs_recruiting)


Reports are that Mr. Nkemdiche has decommitted from Clemson and visiting Ole Miss again soon.

The joke amongst Ga Tech fans is that Dan Radakovich is already slashing Clemson's "recruiting budget."

[MrBug708]

Isaac Savaiinaea to UCLA?

[dawgfan]

Isaac Savaiinaea to UCLA?
That one could go down to the wire. Even if he flips to UCLA now, I'd guess Stanford keeps working him.

[MrBug708]

Maybe Sark can use it to spin Jack to UW :)

Besides Isaac, UCLA is looking good for Priest Willis, Johnny Johnson, Devon Allen, and if Chizik gets fired, Carl Lawson. They will likely lose Bunte

[dawgfan]

Maybe Sark can use it to spin Jack to UW :)

Besides Isaac, UCLA is looking good for Priest Willis, Johnny Johnson, Devon Allen, and if Chizik gets fired, Carl Lawson. They will likely lose Bunte
From what I'm reading, Jack has been leaning UW for a while now - he just hasn't decided to go public with a switch yet, but I'd be mildly surprised if he didn't sign with the Huskies.

[MrBug708]

That's interesting. Most I have seen on him is that local pressure has been pushing him tp uw, but he is just saying things to get people off his back. We will see

[BYU 14]

Maybe Sark can use it to spin Jack to UW :)

Besides Isaac, UCLA is looking good for Priest Willis, Johnny Johnson, Devon Allen, and if Chizik gets fired, Carl Lawson. They will likely lose Bunte

Willis is a manchild, probably a safety next level, has Ronnie Lott potential. We didn't play Marcos, but I saw film on him a couple of times against our opponents.

[dawgfan]

That's interesting. Most I have seen on him is that local pressure has been pushing him tp uw, but he is just saying things to get people off his back. We will see
Who knows really. Kids are getting more and more media savvy. Could be he's just placating the locals and teammates but is solid to UCLA; could be he's strongly leaning UW but doesn't want to make anything public. I've also heard rumors that if Georgia were to offer he'd jump on it (he's originally from Georgia).

He's been to every Husky home game so far FWIW.

[MrBug708]

He is a local kid so that doesn't surprise me. Plus his teammate is a verbal to UW. FWIW, Huffman thinks it will be tough to keep him

[CU Tiger]

Reports are that Mr. Nkemdiche has decommitted from Clemson and visiting Ole Miss again soon.

The joke amongst Ga Tech fans is that Dan Radakovich is already slashing Clemson's "recruiting budget."

I have a tad bit of inside intel here...and oh boy.
Remind me and I'll post a whale of a story after NSD...this one is crazy.

Robert is still a great kid and I'll pull for him wherever he ends up. And if I were a betting man, Id wager Ill get to watch him a bunch the next few years,

[MacroGuru]

So, I don't know where to post this, but I think the scheduling we are getting plus being on ESPN will help with some recruiting at BYU.

2013
This would be the season I might end up traveling to Provo a lot from Buffalo if I can afford to. Texas, Utah, Georgia Tech and Boise are all coming to Provo. With games against Virginia, Houston, Utah State and Wisconsin it is one hell of a schedule. I think Hawaii will be the weakest of our opponents in the entire schedule. We can add an extra game here with us going to Hawaii, I don't think we will.

Aug. 31 -- at Virginia
Sept. 7 -- Texas
Sept. 14 --
Sept. 21 -- Utah
Sept. 28 --
Oct. 4 -- at Utah State
Oct. 12 -- Georgia Tech
Oct. 19 -- at Houston
Oct. 26 -- Boise State
Nov. 2 --
Nov. 9 -- at Wisconsin
Nov. 16 -- Middle Tennessee State
Nov. 23 -- at Notre Dame
Nov. 30 --
Dec. 7 -- at Hawaii
BOWL: Kraft Fight Hunger Bowl in San Francisco vs. Pac-12 #6
2014
We have Notre Dame coming to Provo this year (Date not sure) with Virginia, Houston, Utah State and Southern Miss. We are playing at Texas, Boise and Middle Tennessee so far. We will add a few more games.

Aug. 30 -- ??
Sept. 6 -- at Texas
Sept. 13 -- ????
Sept. 20 -- Virginia
Sept. 27 -- Houston
Oct. 4 -- Utah State
Oct. 11 -- ???
Oct. 18 -- Hawaii
Oct. 25 -- at Boise State
Nov. 1 -- at Middle Tennessee State
Nov. 8 -- Southern Mississippi
Nov. 15 -- UNLV
Nov. 22 -- ????