Jeremy Lin - Superstar or Flash in the pan

[AgustusM]

I tend to think guys like this come back to earth and is overhyped because he is playing in NY (no way he gets all this hype if was doing exact same thing for Milwaukee)

On the "sure to be the next Chris Paul" side is the fact that the team I have rooted for the past 40 years, your Golden State Warriors simply cut him this year and letting go a desperately needed star is exactly the type of things the Warriors have been doing for most of my years following the team.

interested in less biased opinions on Mr Lin and his future.

[JediKooter]

I think the Rockets let him go too.

It could be one of those things like Tom Brady. Backed up Bledsoe for a while and then all of sudden he's a hall of famer.

[lighthousekeeper]

I was watching highlights from his last few starts and was shocked that he wasn't getting called for traveling.

[Daimyo]

I don't think anyone knows because either way it would be completely unprecedented.

Fivethirtyeight had a post about his run after the first four games. Only 41 players in the last 30 years have had a streak of four games at any point in their careers with 20+ points, 6+ assists, and 50+ FG% in four consecutive games and most of them were really, really good. Lin, of course, is the only one to do it in his first four starts.

Jeremy Lin Is No Fluke - NYTimes.com (http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/02/11/jeremy-lin-is-no-fluke/)

[whomario]

(no way he gets all this hype if was doing exact same thing for Milwaukee)



Brandon Jennings last year got it :confused:

[larrymcg421]

If I have to guess based on the small sample size, I would say leaning toward the superstar side, but not quite all the way there. Either way, it's a great story and to think we almost missed it due to the lockout.

[Chief Rum]

I think he's legit. From what I have seen, he has excellent ball and body control and a quick first step. I think eventually teams will decide his shot is less dangerous than his drive and will take a step back from him. If he continues to hit from outside, though, they will need to rethink that.

He will have issues on defense, I would guess, judging from most opinions of his athleticism. But frankly he seems to be a young, Asian Steve Nash, who, of course, won two MVPs running this system for D'Antoni. And Nash isn't blessed with all sorts of athleticism either.

He's probably not this good in the long run, but a borderline All Star, one of the top 5-7 PGs in the league? I can see that.

[Chief Rum]

Brandon Jennings last year got it :confused:

whomario is right. Jennings got all sorts of hype when he dropped 51.

He would have kept getting it, too, if he didn't prove to be a bit too inconsistent. He's actually been better this year, but now no one's paying attention. :)

[Matthean]

I'm still waiting to see how the team runs once they get healthy.

[EagleFan]

http://www.theiostorm.com/wp-content/uploads/Flash-in-the-pan2.jpg

[DougW]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-qO6B0vHtpUo/TeVZitBDhxI/AAAAAAAAAhA/A9igLNUw5ts/s1600/37410-biggest_superstar.jpg

[spleen1015]

Coach K was on the Herd today and basically said it was a perfect storm situation. Lin fits perfectly into D'Antoni's system.

I hope he's for real and has a long Stockton like career.

[stevew]

He certainly has a chance to become the basketball Tebow.

[Lathum]

This should really be a poll

[mauchow]

8 turnovers and 4 missed free throws in a game they're losing by 5 with two minutes to go... not shooting well either.

and as I type that - they tie it up.

[spleen1015]

He certainly has a chance to become the basketball Tebow.

As I stated in another thread, Lin is actually good. He's not getting credit that belongs to others.

[mauchow]

And a big 3 pointer... lol

[Young Drachma]

Who cares? He'd a badass right now out of Harvard. History will tell it, but it's a hell of a fun ride.

[mauchow]

And knicks win again - they were down as much as 13 in the 3rd quarter.... Lin with another big game - He made some big buckets down the stretch for sure. I think he might be something...

[rjolley]

I think he's in the right system for his abilities. He's a solid player that bounced around because he didn't fit well. I don't think he's a dominant point guard like Rose, Paul, D Williams, etc, but he's a solid guard who can be the answer in the system that the Knicks are running...a Nash clone, more or less. He's still got a lot to prove as he needs to do this for a long period of time, but for now, he's doing a great job on one of the biggest stages that's looking for just about anything to be excited about basketball-wise. So, love him or hate him, you'll hear a lot about Lin for the rest of the season.

Didn't Nash come from a non-basketball power school and bounce around a little before settling in as Phoenix's Great Canadian Baller?

[JPhillips]

Boy is there a ton of pressure on Carmelo.

[Apathetic Lurker]

I'd say he ends up being upper middle of the road type player

[Honolulu_Blue]

As I stated in another thread, Lin is actually good. He's not getting credit that belongs to others.

He also wasn't a five star recruit coming out of high school who was being recruited by every major college, wasn't on two college national championship teams and wasn't a first round draft pick.

[Young Drachma]

Steve Nash got a scholarship at Santa Clara the only school to offer him. But he was the 15th overall pick in his draft year. So no parallels there in the slightest.

[Young Drachma]

This inference that the hype is unwarranted is really dim. He's doing stuff no one has ever done bursting on the scene as a starter and it's fun to watch. He's leading his team and they are playing well. It's like watching the movie and asking halfway through about the sequel.

[cartman]

And tonight he drains a 3 with less than a second left to win the game.

[M GO BLUE!!!]

It doesn't hurt that he is doing all this in a city that has been starving for a team to root for in MSG for over a decade & stuck watching disappointments and jokes.

If he continues to be even a good player, D'Antoni owes him his career. He was damn close to being done. They started Lin just to see what he could do before they cut him so as not to guarantee his salary.

Nobody saw this coming. Nobody.

It's like watching a kid that stutters step into the spotlight and nail all four hours of Hamlet. Then Macbeth the following night.

[rjolley]

I think the comparisons to Magic, Paul, and the other point guards are dim as well. Lin is a solid guard who plays well in the system he's in. Is that a bad thing? No, not at all. Does that make him a potential All-Star? Yep, just like, in the same system, it made Steve Nash an All-Star. But it's been 6 games. After over a year in the league. Saying he's the next coming is a bit too much. Saying he's not a good player is not right either.

I hope he continues to play well. Hopefully the Knicks will become a good team again. The Bulls-Knicks battles from the Jordan days were always fun to watch.

[cartman]

Nash was also an all-star and 2nd/3rd team all-pro with the Mavs before going back to Phoenix.

[rjolley]

Was he? My bad, thought he wasn't until he got to Phoenix.

[Young Drachma]

I think the comparisons to Magic, Paul, and the other point guards are dim as well. Lin is a solid guard who plays well in the system he's in. Is that a bad thing? No, not at all. Does that make him a potential All-Star? Yep, just like, in the same system, it made Steve Nash an All-Star. But it's been 6 games. After over a year in the league. Saying he's the next coming is a bit too much. Saying he's not a good player is not right either.


I haven't read one article proclaiming him the next anything and I've read lots of them. They might compare his game favorably, but if Magic Johnson says that the kid reminds him of Steve Nash in some ways -- and Earvin said it -- then I tend to take his word for it.

Everyone including Lin himself is horribly cautious about anointing him as anything and he 's been humble about it. The fact that it's turning casual fans into bandwagon fans and that Asians are excited to see "one of their own" do well doesn't equate to "everyone is hyping him up" because I don't see any evidence of that anywhere. It's getting a lot of ink, but that's New York for you. It's a basketball city and a pro sports city.

But the kid has game. He's not going to just disappear. I think that's pretty apparent. I'm not enshrining him in Springfield or anything, but at some point you have to say "damn, this isn't happening in a vacuum." Because it's not anymore.

[rjolley]

Yeah, we're saying the same thing. He's a good player who's doing well with the chance he's been given.

I like his game a lot and I hope he continues to do well.

[digamma]

With the exception of maybe Dark Could and wademoore, I probably watched Lin play more hoops prior to 10 days ago than anyone on the board. I was a huge fan of him when he was in college, but I didn't necessarily think he was an NBA player. But, as one of his teammates wrote this week, he always seemed to elevate his game against better competition. His best games in college were against UConn and Boston College.

Anyhow, watching him over the last week, I had forgotten two things. One, his first step is ridiculously good. He's quick. When he was in college, I wrote that off to hustle and being a little more athletic than the average Ivy League guard. But he is legit quick. Second, he is a really good shooter, particularly in the mid-range. That's a forgotten skill, but hugely valuable.

So, in the end, I come down where DC is. He's not going to just disappear. He may not keep up his current pace, but his skills are good enough to keep him around for a while. And for now, I'll enjoy the ride. It's pretty cool.

[RainMaker]

He's a good player who is in a perfect position. His game is just built for Dantoni's system and running high screens with Chandler is a plus. Still think he would ball for a lot of teams, but this is the ideal coach for his game.

[whomario]

actually the player i´d most compare him to is a smaller Manu Ginobili with his great first step, creativity around the basket, ability to keep their drible and excel in the Pick and Roll and sneaky shooting ability (both don´t really have a classic good jumpshot but both get the seperation they need to get it off comfortably). Also defensively both are pretty similar imo.

Imo he didn´t "bounce around before finding the right system". Chauncey Billups did that, Lin simply bounced around till someone was forced to play him. (i hope no one makes D´Antoni or the Knicks out as geniuses here, they only stumbled onto this because it was down to either him or the Garden Janitor at Point Guard ad aparently the Janitor missed the team bus)
That happens with undrafted players quite a bit, you are just way less enclined to give them a shot compared to other young players.

Not to say the system isn´t a good fit, just saying that this isn´t proof that he isn´t any good elsewhere.

I am certainly glad he´s having this success and think he´ll be a starting calibre (or 6th man type) player,

[jbergey22]

Id say hes neither. I think he will end up being a very good backup point guard in that Ramon Sessions mold. He is already sort of proving to be kind of a defensive liability and once teams figure out how to best defend him I would expect a solid backup PG is his future.

[whomario]

I also need to say that the crowd reaction in Toronto was both awesome and terrifying, i sounded like a knicks homegame at the end.

[jbergey22]

I think he's in the right system for his abilities. He's a solid player that bounced around because he didn't fit well. I don't think he's a dominant point guard like Rose, Paul, D Williams, etc, but he's a solid guard who can be the answer in the system that the Knicks are running...a Nash clone, more or less. He's still got a lot to prove as he needs to do this for a long period of time, but for now, he's doing a great job on one of the biggest stages that's looking for just about anything to be excited about basketball-wise. So, love him or hate him, you'll hear a lot about Lin for the rest of the season.

Didn't Nash come from a non-basketball power school and bounce around a little before settling in as Phoenix's Great Canadian Baller?

I am not sure if Nash is a good comparison to be honest. Lin is a shoot first point guard and doesnt have anywhere close to the skill of Nash as a passer. I think people want to label him as a Nash clone simply because they played in similar offenses. Lin will be more effective as a scorer than he will a passer IMO.

[Butter]

Flash in the pan.

[Logan]

Flash in the pan.

Someone had to say it. Will you consider yourself right if he slows down from his pace of doing something that has never been done in the NBA before?

[lighthousekeeper]

Front Office Football Central - View Single Post - Adam Morrisson is awesome. (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showpost.php?p=998336&postcount=1)

[jbergey22]

Someone had to say it. Will you consider yourself right if he slows down from his pace of doing something that has never been done in the NBA before?

This.

I am already starting to feel bad for the kid. You can just tell he is just having the time of his life out there and has played very well and saved this Knicks team from complete disaster. Suddenly the expectations for him are unreasonable. From being an undrafted free agent being an average NBA point guard is an amazing feat should that be all he achieves from now on. People need to keep this in perspective. The bright lights of New York.

[JonInMiddleGA]

I just keep thinking about how Jose Constanza hit .423 for the Braves over a 22 game stretch last year. He finished up by going 6/37.

Anybody can get hot.

I think Lin is a decent to good player, but he isn't going to sustain this level of play over the long haul.

[Logan]

Of course he can't, it will literally be impossible for him to score at this rate once Carmelo comes back.

[spleen1015]

There's no way he can play like this day in and day out. But he could maintain enough to be a good starting PG in the NBA.

[Blackadar]

I haven't watched Lin play, so I can't say whether or not he'll be a flash in the pan or not. My guess is that he's a good fit for the system and will wind up being neither a superstar nor a bust, but an effective system player who can contribute as a starter.

One thing that makes me suggest caution are his excessive turnovers. He's averaging 5 turnovers per game and his Assist/TO ratio is pretty poor - 1.645. The top 15 PGs in the league have a ratio far better than that. Since that's such a crucial stat, it will be interesting to see how that changes once Mello and Amare come back.

[Logan]

One thing that makes me suggest caution are his excessive turnovers. He's averaging 5 turnovers per game and his Assist/TO ratio is pretty poor - 1.645. The top 15 PGs in the league have a ratio far better than that. Since that's such a crucial stat, it will be interesting to see how that changes once Mello and Amare come back.

Not to be overly optimistic, but on his two main criticisms - turnovers and defense - I think it's important to mention that his NBA experience right now totals 577 minutes. This year, in these six games, he's going up against other starters for the first time in his career. You have to expect a bit of a learning curve. It's not to say those issues can't continue of course, but you have to put it in perspective.

As a Knick fan, I would put his "superstar" potential (on-court only) at about 10%, All-Star potential at 20%, reliable starting PG% at 30%, quality backup PG 30%, and flash in the pan 10%.

[spleen1015]

Did he have turnover issues in college?

[JonInMiddleGA]

Did he have turnover issues in college?

Looks like 90 TO's in 29 games his senior season, so about a 4.5 to 3.0 TO/A ratio there

Jeremy Lin Stats - Harvard Crimson - College Basketball (http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/player/harvard/jeremy-lin)

edit to add: I had no freakin clue, so I Googled

[Butter]

Someone had to say it. Will you consider yourself right if he slows down from his pace of doing something that has never been done in the NBA before?

Depends on what you mean by "slows". If he continues to hit circus shot after circus shot, draining 3's at the buzzer, and keep his A/TO ratio above 1, then no, I will be wrong.

I would consider myself right if he is not a starter anymore within the next 2 years. Because I think at this point, they are liable to ride him as far as D'Antoni thinks he'll take them.

[whomario]

A/TO don´t really translate from College to the NBA as far as i know, it´s not like with rebounds that there is a strong correlation because of the difference in offensive and defensive schemes.

As for his TOs, his Turnover ratio actually isn´t that bad.
His TOR in his heavy-minute games has been : 4.3 / 27.6 / 10.7 / 17.3 / 18.1 / 24.4

Some benchmark season averages : Nash 24.4 / Rubio 22.7 / Rondo 22.4 / D.Williams 17.7 / Calderon 16.9 / Paul 11.9

He simply had the ball a shitload with the lack of other ballhandlers/good players next to him, his Usage was in Kobe Bryant territory every game.

His Ast ratio is fairly low, as other said he´s a scorer that also passes the ball a bit, not the other way around like Nash.

[Young Drachma]

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That fucking crowd.

[Young Drachma]

Why Knicks Jeremy Lin is much better story than Tim Tebow - Michael Rosenberg - SI.com (http://cnnsi.com/2012/writers/michael_rosenberg/02/14/lin.tebow/index.html?eref=sihp&sct=hp_t12_a7)

People just don't do what Lin has done unless they're really good. Watch him and you see uncanny court vision, very good length for a point guard and the ability to score in a variety of ways, even though he is not a great pure shooter. The league will start taking away his strengths and he'll have to adapt. But he is clearly a starting point guard in that league.

Now, imagine if Tebow went to Harvard, and was undrafted, and played a year in the Canadian Football League, then signed with an NFL team as a third-string quarterback, and suddenly played like a Pro Bowler. In other words: Imagine he had a career path like Kurt Warner, who went from bagging groceries to NFL MVP.

If you want to compare Warner to Lin, you're onto something. But if Lin keeps this up, he can become a more amazing story than Warner. Why? Because it's much harder to shock us in the NBA than in the NFL.
Tom Brady was the 199th pick in the 1999 draft. Joe Montana went 82nd in 1979. Warren Moon went undrafted. (Racial stereotypes of the era surely played a part in that one.)

They were exceptions, of course -- plenty of top quarterbacks, like the Manning brothers, Elway and Troy Aikman, were No. 1 overall picks. Still, good starting quarterbacks do come out of nowhere sometimes.
Compare that to the NBA. Of the 24 players picked for this year's NBA All-Star Game, 18 were top-10 picks and five of the other six went in the first round. (The only exception: Marc Gasol.)

Jeremy Lin came from nowhere in a league where nobody comes from nowhere. He is a better story than Tim Tebow, and that's not a shot at Tebow. At the moment, Lin is a better story than anybody else in pro sports.

[BishopMVP]

He can't really go left, and his outside shot is inconsistent. He may be able to work on these weaknesses and become a quality NBA starter in a year or two, but I think he'll have a hard crash this season as teams start watching film on him, focus on forcing him left/sink off him, and his shot goes cold for a few games. Brandon Jennings' rookie season might be a very good comp for how his year will go imo.

[Ksyrup]

Flash in the pan.

Very disappointed that no one has called him a flash in the wok.

[Young Drachma]

Very disappointed that no one has called him a flash in the wok.

Sorry, my racist sayings mechanism is broken. I'll have to get it fixed.

[Ksyrup]

Oh come on, that's just funny. There's no racism intended.

[Young Drachma]

Oh come on, that's just funny. There's no racism intended.

I was mostly trolling, not being especially serious that time.

[spleen1015]

ESPN had a little montage of Lin on SC yesterday. It showed all of his great plays and then it showed a bunch of Knicks fans etc. The last guy they showed was clearly of Oriental descent and he said "We rove Jemery Rin!!"

I was surprised ESPN included the guy at the end.

[Ksyrup]

Personally, I find cooking with a wok superior to the average pan, so I think it was actually a compliment.

[stevew]

I don't think it becomes racist until someone starts talking about the Rinsanity.

Anyways, with the China voting, i can see him being an all star starter next season. Assuming he puts up 15ppg and like 8 assists.

[wade moore]

Oh come on, that's just funny. There's no racism intended.

"I have a lot of asian friends!"

:shurg:

I thought it was a bit racist fwiw.

[Ksyrup]

Really? Doesn't it have to be derogatory to be racist? It's just a play on words. I guess I come from the perspective that racism involves a conscious effort to demean or hurt someone, and that a joke based on a play on words involving a cultural reference to a cooking utensil doesn't really qualify.

Things like this always remind me that maybe I need to be a little more sensitive about my heritage. But I guess it's precisely that I don't give a shit or take it personally that makes it hard for me to understand how something like that could upset someone.

This one is hardly an original - I've already heard it 2-3 times in the past several days. But it's certainly not as popular as the one that's burning up peoples' FB statuses about driving. And I've yet to see a flame war break out on FB about it, but maybe I've just missed the outrage.

Learn something every day, I guess...

[spleen1015]

Really? Doesn't it have to be derogatory to be racist? It's just a play on words. I guess I come from the perspective that racism involves a conscious effort to demean or hurt someone, and that a joke based on a play on words involving a cultural reference to a cooking utensil doesn't really qualify.

Things like this always remind me that maybe I need to be a little more sensitive about my heritage. But I guess it's precisely that I don't give a shit or take it personally that makes it hard for me to understand how something like that could upset someone.

This one is hardly an original - I've already heard it 2-3 times in the past several days. But it's certainly not as popular as the one that's burning up peoples' FB statuses about driving. And I've yet to see a flame war break out on FB about it, but maybe I've just missed the outrage.

Learn something every day, I guess...

For some your intent doesn't matter. It is all about how what you've said impacts them. The fact that they can or want to interpret what you said as racist makes it racist. Why should you have to censor yourself for them? That's what I think.

[Ksyrup]

I didn't mean to derail the thread or anything. We've had this discussion around here before. Nothing to see here.

[Groundhog]

My own call on Lin from what I've seen (3 of his super games) is that at this stage there are three things I know he can do well at an NBA level - #1 get to the basket and finish, #2 hit open jumpers, and #3 defend the perimeter fairly well (although needs to work at getting over screens).

The biggest issue I have with him is his carelessness with the ball and his erratic passing, which at this stage I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt considering he's only played a handful of games with meaningful minutes. The Knicks lousy floor spacing doesn't help with his passing, either.

There's no way he keeps up this current Prime Tebow Pace but really, I don't see why he can't be a 15ppg on this squad with Carmelo back, and I don't see Baron replacing him unless he really falls off.

[rjolley]

I think they're crazy to even consider going with Davis unless Lin turns into...hell, I think they'd be crazy to go with Davis under any circumstance.

[Desnudo]

Really? Doesn't it have to be derogatory to be racist? It's just a play on words. I guess I come from the perspective that racism involves a conscious effort to demean or hurt someone, and that a joke based on a play on words involving a cultural reference to a cooking utensil doesn't really qualify.

Things like this always remind me that maybe I need to be a little more sensitive about my heritage. But I guess it's precisely that I don't give a shit or take it personally that makes it hard for me to understand how something like that could upset someone.

This one is hardly an original - I've already heard it 2-3 times in the past several days. But it's certainly not as popular as the one that's burning up peoples' FB statuses about driving. And I've yet to see a flame war break out on FB about it, but maybe I've just missed the outrage.

Learn something every day, I guess...

Ask this guy if you want to be sure

Yo, Is This Racist? (http://yoisthisracist.com/)

I'd be willing to bet that Asian people probably wouldn't find it particularly funny, if you want the sniff test.

[Galaxy]

He also wasn't a five star recruit coming out of high school who was being recruited by every major college, wasn't on two college national championship teams and wasn't a first round draft pick.

Wasn't he California's high school hoops player of the year? He certainly produced and led in his high school years. The guy has be a very, very productive player at each level he has played at, and seems to play his best in the biggest moments.

I also need to say that the crowd reaction in Toronto was both awesome and terrifying, i sounded like a knicks homegame at the end.

Toronto has a very, very large Asian, and particularly Chinese (biggest in North America I believe), population. Not surprised at the reaction at all.

[Young Drachma]

Wasn't he California's high school hoops player of the year? He certainly produce and led in his high school years?


BOYS PLAYER OF THE YEAR: Jeremy Lin / A knack for the big play (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/04/02/SPG6FI1UJF1.DTL)

Northern California D2 player of the year and First-team all-state.

[Young Drachma]

From some guy in the ESPN comments:

24, 22, 24, 24, 29, 20, 16, 26, 31, 26, 21

Those are Flip Murray's scoring numbers in his first 11 starts. He was a 2nd round draft pick from a DII college who barely played his rookie season. When Ray Allen went down he got the surprise start and exploded, leading the Sonics to a 7-4 start. Then teams figured him out, he got demoted back to the bench, and faded to a 12.4 ppg average. He never managed to match that again the rest of his career and never became an NBA starter

[Uncle Briggs]

I'd be willing to bet that Asian people probably wouldn't find it particularly funny, if you want the sniff test.

My wife is asian. I asked for an authoritative opinion. She says if he is from somewhere that they cook with woks instead of pans, it's funny. If not, it's racist but still funny.

[Groundhog]

Re: Flip Murray, yeah, that happens, and that's what seperates the good players and the fringe players. People are going to start gameplanning Lin, and I saw the Lakers and the Raptors doing exactly that, trying to take him out of what's been working for him. So far so good. What separates him from Murray and Dajuan Wagner (as another example of a guy that blew up for a short period of games as a rookie) is that the rest of his game appears like it could be better rounded than any of those guys.

What I'm most interested in is what happens when he doesn't shoot the ball well or has a bad game. How is he going to bounce back from that? If he has a 2-12 shooting night with more turnovers and assists, how is he going to perform the next night and, more importantly, how are Carmelo and Stoudamire going to react when it happens?

[Groundhog]

6 points on 2-4 shooting to go with 9 assists and just 1 turnover at the half. Sure, it's against the Kings, but still, the kid is showing he can do more than score the ball.

[BillyNYC]

Lin has led the team in scoring since the streak due to necessity. With Melo and Amare (until last night) out, there were limited options to score points. Someone like Novak picked up the slack, but Lin has shown the ability to create his own shot and/or get to the FT line, so he has.

He's also been the ballhandler due to necessity. Toney Douglas was mainly the primary PG pre-Lin and was averaging 2.3/1.8 (assists/turnovers): Toney Douglas Game By Game Stats and Performance - New York Knicks - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/3979/toney-douglas) Lin is turning the ball over a bunch, but obviously runs the offense better and has led to many easy baskets for his teammates.

Fatigue has to play a role, regardless of how well-conditioned he may be. Someone mostly riding the bench suddenly has to play 35+ minutes every night, almost all of it being the ballhandler AND primary scoring option on every possession. Some of the turnovers and bad shooting spells relate to that.

Long-term, I think the first half tonight is a bit more representative of what he'll contribute: 6 points, 9 assists, 1 TO in 17 minutes. He won't have 15+ assists/game, nor a 9:1 A/TO ratio, but he'll be more of a distributor than a scorer. Especially when Melo comes back, he won't have to score 25 points. He can focus more on creating, which will lead to less turnovers, more assists, and less scoring. As a Knicks fan, that's fine by me.

(And as a Cornell alum, I should note that Lin was 1-5 against Cornell as a starter for the Crimson.)

[Matthean]

6 points on 2-4 shooting to go with 9 assists and just 1 turnover at the half. Sure, it's against the Kings, but still, the kid is showing he can do more than score the ball.

I was going to make a comment about the lack of TOs, but he ended up with 6.

[JS19]

Has anyone in sports ever had a more malleable name? The play on words, or his name in this case, doesn't seem to end. Linsanity, Linbelievable, Linderalla Story, Super Lintendo, Linception, Linsational, Linning, All he does is Lin Lin Lin.. it goes on and on.

Haven't been much of a basketball fan in years but this kid has got me watching quite a bit lately. Not sure what he'll end up being, but it's been a fun ride so far.

[Ramzavail]

Really? Taking Credit?

In a interview with Rick Quan, Rex Walters responded to the question of feeling that he was a pioneer for Asian-Americans. He responded - "I consider myself Japanese-American. I just don't look it. People are always surprised. Now we got a guy like Jeremy Lin breaking barriers, I'd like to think I played a small part in that". He later added, "People ask me who I am? what I am? I am a Japanese-American, I take great pride in that."[4]

[Groundhog]

Only reason I remember Rex Walters is that I had a basketball card of his from what must've been around 94 or 95 with the Nets, which I remember because it was an early example of a terrible photoshop, which showed him dunking on a backdrop that he'd clearly been pasted on to.

[Ramzavail]

Well I'm a Net fan and vividly remember him sucking and never thinking he was Japanese let alone thinking he played a small part in breaking down barriers for future Asian basketball players like Jeremy Lin.

Drazen Petrovic and Detlef Schrempf broke down barriers for European basketball players like Dirk Nowitzki. Rex Walters didn't do shit.

[stevew]

I thought Rex Walters was actually Rex Chapman for a second. I guess we had 2 Non-grossman Rex's.

[Neon_Chaos]

Speaking of puns... My friend is already preparing "Lindenburg", in case Lin has a string of bad games.

[Galaxy]

Jeremy Lin and the Guy Who Saw Linsanity Coming - WSJ.com (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204880404577225562995441868.html?mod=WSJ_hp_MIDDLENexttoWhatsNewsThird)

[Klinglerware]

(And as a Cornell alum, I should note that Lin was 1-5 against Cornell as a starter for the Crimson.)

Speaking of Cornell basketball (and adding to the "scouts vs statheads" player evaluaton debate, as sort of a counterpoint to Galaxy's post)...

The Cornell Basketball Blog: “When I played against Jeremy Lin” (http://cornellbasketball.blogspot.com/2012/02/when-i-played-against-jeremy-lin.html)

[Logan]

The All-Linsanity Mailbag - Grantland (http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7579097/linsanity-bag)

Simmons' analysis of his game, where it could go, and some of the racial stuff down towards the bottom.

[Logan]

Forgot to mention that I thought the LeBron angle was one of the better aspects of that column.

[Easy Mac]

Was anyone else hoping for a "Lin Ten Ten" headline after his first double-double?

Also, I don't really think Linbelievable works. It needs to be words that start with "in". Lindescribable works better.

[Young Drachma]

Lin Vs. Tebow : NPR (http://www.npr.org/2012/02/15/146955598/lin-vs-tebow)

http://www.npr.org/news/graphics/2012/02/linsanity-tebowmania-948.gif

[Julio Riddols]

Linconceivable?

[Logan]

Are New York’s Most Exclusive Restaurants More Eager To Seat Jeremy Lin Or Eli Manning? Deadspin Investigates (http://deadspin.com/5885495/who-are-new-yorks-most-exclusive-restaurants-more-eager-to-seat-jeremy-lin-or-eli-manning-deadspin-investigates)

[mckerney]

http://i.imgur.com/HfSNo.png

http://cache.ohinternet.com/images/thumb/7/73/JeanLucPicardFacepalm.jpg/618px-JeanLucPicardFacepalm.jpg

[RomaGoth]

Poor Jean-Luc....like he doesn't have enough to worry about running a top-of-the-line spacecraft.

[Young Drachma]

Are New York’s Most Exclusive Restaurants More Eager To Seat Jeremy Lin Or Eli Manning? Deadspin Investigates (http://deadspin.com/5885495/who-are-new-yorks-most-exclusive-restaurants-more-eager-to-seat-jeremy-lin-or-eli-manning-deadspin-investigates)

This was great.

[whomario]

Knicks are close to signing JR Smith.

If Lin manages to still produce and keep the team functioning with not just Anthony but also Davis and JR Smith joining him the i´ll be very impressed ;)

[Galaxy]

This was great.

I like how Lin would go from sleeping on his brother's couch to having an assistant, and eating out at the most exclusive ($$$!) restaurants in NYC within a matter of basically hours.

[stevew]

Yeah, that gives them like 8 or 9 players. Chandler/Amare/Melo/Fields/Lin. Plus Smith, Davis, Jeffries

[stevew]

Still need another big though.

[Groundhog]

You know, watching all these Knicks games, I've gained an appreciation for Jared Jeffries. He should never ever ever ever take a shot from more than 2 inches away from the rim, but I'm starting to see how the Big Blank Boxscore has stuck in the league for so long.

[Young Drachma]

Knicks&rsquo; Jeremy Lin added to roster of players for Rising Stars Challenge in All-Star weekend - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/wizards/knicks-jeremy-lin-added-to-roster-of-players-for-rising-stars-challenge-in-all-star-weekend/2012/02/16/gIQAjXFcIR_story.html)

[whomario]

Yao(mania) commenting on Lin :

Yao among many Chinese fans rooting on Lin's success story | NBA.com (http://www.nba.com/2012/news/features/fran_blinebury/02/16/yao-ming-discusses-jeremy-lin/index.html)


"What I see from Jeremy and what I hear in his interviews is he appreciates everything. He pursues his dream. His attitude is so peaceful, but there is strength to him. It is not a violent strength like fire or something aggressive. It is like the ocean, very peaceful, very quiet when you look at it. But you can never underestimate the power that is in there."


Bill Walton couldn´t have said it any better :) (btw, is he still doing commentary for the Kings sometimes ? We need him on ESPN or sth for a Lin game asap, that´s propably the last thing missing in this story)

[Logan]

So apparently last night, ESPN's mobile site had a headline of "Chink in the Armor". It was up for about a half hour before being taken down, and they apologized. What are your thoughts? I feel like it is so ridiculously racist, it almost had to be an accident.

[Suburban Rhythm]

So apparently last night, ESPN's mobile site had a headline of "Chink in the Armor". It was up for about a half hour before being taken down, and they apologized. What are your thoughts? I feel like it is so ridiculously racist, it almost had to be an accident.

Didn't see it last night, but just caught this

ESPN sorry for offensive headline on Jeremy Lin story - NBA - SI.com (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/basketball/nba/02/18/jeremy.lin.headline.apology.ap/index.html?sct=hp_t2_a11&eref=sihp)

[gstelmack]

So apparently last night, ESPN's mobile site had a headline of "Chink in the Armor". It was up for about a half hour before being taken down, and they apologized. What are your thoughts? I feel like it is so ridiculously racist, it almost had to be an accident.

Hard to say. I've seen so many bad attempts at wordplay in CNN headlines, for example, that it may have been intentional. This is a common saying, but what was the article and did the title fit? If it was an article about his turnovers, I could see someone just not paying attention when they titled it, but if that was just a sidelight in the article then yeah someone did it intentionally.

[hoopsguy]

So apparently last night, ESPN's mobile site had a headline of "Chink in the Armor". It was up for about a half hour before being taken down, and they apologized. What are your thoughts? I feel like it is so ridiculously racist, it almost had to be an accident.

I guess I'm just oblivious, but I saw the headline last night while it was up and didn't make the correlation. Only after seeing the news report did I realize what it said, shake my head, and say "wow".

It isn't as if I've never heard the term "chink" before, but it really didn't register for me at the time. With that in mind, I guess I can sort of accept that same thing happened for the person writing the title for the story, but it is a really unfortunate accident if that is indeed what happened. And just ridiculously stupid if it was deliberate.

[Young Drachma]

A copy editor trying to be too cute. A massive fail.

[Bigsmooth]

Great word play that a stand up comedian could get away with but not a newspaper.

[Desnudo]

Great "racist" word play that a stand up comedian could get away with but not a newspaper.

Fixed for you. Unless you think chink is a commonly acceptable word to use when developing clever terms.

[RainMaker]

Is ESPN really part of the news media though?

[stevew]

I wish that ESPN would stop Indian giving us all this racist shit to talk about

[JonInMiddleGA]

Only after seeing the news report did I realize what it said, shake my head, and say "wow". It isn't as if I've never heard the term "chink" before, but it really didn't register for me at the time. With that in mind, I guess I can sort of accept that same thing happened for the person writing the title for the story, but it is a really unfortunate accident if that is indeed what happened. And just ridiculously stupid if it was deliberate.

Pretty much this for me. That's so over the top that I can't imagine how it could have been intentional, so much so that I honestly had to read it at least twice to get what the hubbub was about.

[jaygr]

I feel like it was bad either way. If it was intentionally, obviously it is in horrible taste. If it was a case of an editor missing it, it was still pretty bad.

[JonInMiddleGA]

If it was a case of an editor missing it, it was still pretty bad.

I suspect that, even at ESPN levels, the amount of supervision that takes place during the 24-hour nature of news these days is virtually nil.

[stevew]

Saturday Night Live's Linsanity Cold Open Officially Exhausted The List Of Lin Puns (http://m.deadspin.com/5886296/saturday-night-lives-linsanity-cold-open-officially-exhausted-the-list-of-lin-puns)

[molson]

Great word play that a stand up comedian could get away with but not a newspaper.

Great word play?

Even if we lived in some alternative universe where that's not a deragatory racial slur that's always used to insult someone, he's not even chinese. So even if was an acceptable term, you still have the "all asians are the same" thing.

I feel like it's 1987 and doug williams is starting in the super bowl. People are just losing their minds over this. You'd think the world was ready for an asian nba superstar, but i guess in a lot of ways, it wasn't. It's still a big part of the story. We just need a commentator to ask, "how long have you been an asian basketball player?"

[JonInMiddleGA]

Maybe there's a 3rd option for the headline after all: "somebody else said it first"

ESPN statement on offensive Jeremy Lin comments - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/id/7591778/espn-statement-offensive-jeremy-lin-comments)

snip We have since learned of a similar reference Friday on ESPN Radio New York. The incidents were separate and different. We have engaged in a thorough review of all three and have taken the following action:

• The ESPN employee responsible for our Mobile headline has been dismissed.

• The ESPNEWS anchor has been suspended for 30 days.

• The radio commentator is not an ESPN employee.

edit to add: When did the ESPNEWS anchor become part of the story? All I knew about was the online headline.

[Young Drachma]

The twittervers and blogosphere raked ESPN over the coals for this. So there was awareness of people who'd been doing these things for days and I think it was critical for folks to know it wasn't just some kind of rubber stamp deal where they say "we fixed it" when the opposite was true.

[Chief Rum]

Saturday Night Live's Linsanity Cold Open Officially Exhausted The List Of Lin Puns (http://m.deadspin.com/5886296/saturday-night-lives-linsanity-cold-open-officially-exhausted-the-list-of-lin-puns)

lmao

[Wolfpack]

I suspect the headline thing, had it happened rather early on (say, if the Knicks lost the second game Lin played in), then it might not have gained the notice it did now. It was after several good games by Lin that people were starting to get a little twitchy about "Yellow Mamba" jokes and the like (strangely enough, wouldn't this have the effect of making Kobe's "Black Mamba moniker more racial in some way than it was before? I mean, I never considered it as a racial marker, just a sign of respect for Kobe's desire to beat anyone he played). Once the sensitivity started picking up, this sort of headline had no chance of getting by without protest.

[molson]

I suspect the headline thing, had it happened rather early on (say, if the Knicks lost the second game Lin played in), then it might not have gained the notice it did now. It was after several good games by Lin that people were starting to get a little twitchy about "Yellow Mamba" jokes and the like (strangely enough, wouldn't this have the effect of making Kobe's "Black Mamba moniker more racial in some way than it was before? I mean, I never considered it as a racial marker, just a sign of respect for Kobe's desire to beat anyone he played). Once the sensitivity started picking up, this sort of headline had no chance of getting by without protest.

Black mamba is actually a thing, yellow mamba is just a racial twist on it.

I'm surprised so many people are seeing this stuff as people being "a little twitchy" and "sensitivity" I'm not the most PC guy in the world but I think we've reached a place, really decades ago, that racial slurs and race-based characterizations are almost never utilized in regular media outside of comedy/gritty satire type stuff. Now, though, is it open question again? Have we taken a step back? Don Imus created a national news story when he called some black basketball players "nappy-headed hos", which was probably racist, but it was pretty indirect. "Chink", and the driving jokes, and the dick size jokes, and the eating dog jokes seems to be to be way, way, way beyond that.

[ColtCrazy]

Maybe there's a 3rd option for the headline after all: "somebody else said it first"

ESPN statement on offensive Jeremy Lin comments - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/id/7591778/espn-statement-offensive-jeremy-lin-comments)

snip We have since learned of a similar reference Friday on ESPN Radio New York. The incidents were separate and different. We have engaged in a thorough review of all three and have taken the following action:

• The ESPN employee responsible for our Mobile headline has been dismissed.

• The ESPNEWS anchor has been suspended for 30 days.

• The radio commentator is not an ESPN employee.

edit to add: When did the ESPNEWS anchor become part of the story? All I knew about was the online headline.

Same here. What was the anchor incident? I can't find anything on it anywhere.

Wish I caught the game today. Other than highlights, I haven't seen him play. Would like to see a whole game just to see why he's doing so well.

As for the race issues, it's just a shame...ESPN points out that in the end, a lot of media types are fixated on race. I'd be nice is a good player was simply a good player, but alas...

[Glengoyne]

...

I'm surprised so many people are seeing this stuff as people being "a little twitchy" and "sensitivity" I'm not the most PC guy in the world but I think we've reached a place, really decades ago, that racial slurs and race-based characterizations are almost never utilized in regular media outside of comedy/gritty satire type stuff...

I don't have the context of the article. However given that "a chink in the armor" is an actual meaningful phrase, I can absolutely see this as unintentional. If the headline was applicable or even on point with the article, then that goes even further and shifts the response into the "over reactive" or "overly sensitive" range.
If the writer was actually intentionally trying to make a play on the phrase, then yeah, this is about as bad as it gets. "Chink" isn't in the debatable racial slur range. Not a gray area at all.

[Thomkal]

Same here. What was the anchor incident? I can't find anything on it anywhere.

Wish I caught the game today. Other than highlights, I haven't seen him play. Would like to see a whole game just to see why he's doing so well.

As for the race issues, it's just a shame...ESPN points out that in the end, a lot of media types are fixated on race. I'd be nice is a good player was simply a good player, but alas...

The anchor was Max Bretos. He asked a question: "If there is a chink in the armor, where can Lin improve his game?"

a question that would have not even been noticed, let alone got him suspended for 30 days had it been for any other player but Lin.

ESPN fires writer of offensive headline about Jeremy Lin - CNN.com (http://www.edition.cnn.com/2012/02/19/sport/espn-lin-slur/index.html)

[jaygr]

The anchor was Max Bretos. He asked a question: "If there is a chink in the armor, where can Lin improve his game?"

a question that would have not even been noticed, let alone got him suspended for 30 days had it been for any other player but Lin.

ESPN fires writer of offensive headline about Jeremy Lin - CNN.com (http://www.edition.cnn.com/2012/02/19/sport/espn-lin-slur/index.html)

An article I saw also said that Max Bretos tweeted that his wife is Asian, so it seems unlikely his was intentional.

[Klinglerware]

edit to add: When did the ESPNEWS anchor become part of the story? All I knew about was the online headline.

When an ESPNEWS anchor says something when nobody is watching, does he make a sound?

[Wolfpack]

The anchor was Max Bretos. He asked a question: "If there is a chink in the armor, where can Lin improve his game?"

a question that would have not even been noticed, let alone got him suspended for 30 days had it been for any other player but Lin.

ESPN fires writer of offensive headline about Jeremy Lin - CNN.com (http://www.edition.cnn.com/2012/02/19/sport/espn-lin-slur/index.html)

Seriously? That's the context? He got suspended for that?? That's ridiculous. In the context of his job, that was a legitimate question. The headline writer I can understand to some extent because there is no context to the headline and it probably looked worse if it appeared underneath his face (even if my first instinct would never have been to make such an association). But that? That's going overboard. We are seriously going to have to start moving to newspeak at some point because too many words in common English are offending people even in proper context.

[Rizon]

I guess we learn something new every day! I always thought it was "kink in the armor".

[Rizon]

I guess we learn something new every day! I always thought it was "kink in the armor".

Well, I'll be damned! (http://www.grammarist.com/usage/chink-kink/)

[ISiddiqui]

Holy crap, that's as ridiculous as the D.C. officially who used the word "niggardly" properly. Heck, this is likely worse, because the "chink in the armor" phrase is used far more widely.

[miami_fan]

I can't wait for the next time someone says Carmelo is a black hole.

[Young Drachma]

'An Outdated And Ignorant Stereotype' - Ta-Nehisi Coates - Entertainment - The Atlantic (http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2012/02/an-outdated-and-ignorant-stereotype/253323/)

Heh. SNL goes there, while ESPN fires the anonymous employee who wrote the "Chink In The Armor" headline for Jeremy Lin. It also suspended Max Bretos for using the phrase in an interview with Walt Frazier. I actually am sympathetic to Bretos.

Making catchy puns is part of writing headlines. Headlines are also written--you actually have to take a moment to think about them. With that in mind, it's really hard to believe that the person who wrote "Chink In The Armor" to describe Lin didn't see the double-entrendre. If they didn't, they shouldn't be writing headlines anyway.

Bretos's case is a little different. The phrase a "chink in the armor" is often applied to the weaknesses of athletes presumed to be unstoppable--not as a pun off of their name or ethnicity, but as a way to strictly describe a weakness in their game. In text you probably want to avoid that sort of phrase--much as you'd want to avoid referring to a Tiger Woods triumph as a "a black day for Woods' opponents," though it would less egregious than a headline.

But I think on air is considerably harder. I can easily see how Bretos used that phrase with no ill-intent at all, and he certainly didn't seem like he was going for a pun. My sense is that ESPN is covering themselves. An on-air apology (in Bretos) case probably would have sufficed.

[larrymcg421]

My guess is that ESPN was confident the headline was racist, but were worried about legal action if they fired the headline writer but didn't take action against an anchor using the same phrase, so they had to give Bretos something.

[Butter]

I bet Bretos wishes he was back at Fox Soccer Channel now, where no one would've noticed if they had a half hour of Asian racism hidden inside a show called "Best 50 goals of all time!!!"

[Easy Mac]

I bet Bretos wishes he was back at Fox Soccer Channel now, where no one would've noticed if they had a half hour of Asian racism hidden inside a show called "Best 50 goals of all time!!!"

I, for one, am glad Bretos landed somewhere where no one has to watch him.

[Easy Mac]

An article I saw also said that Max Bretos tweeted that his wife is Asian, so it seems unlikely his was intentional.

I heard he also has a Jewish cousin and a black friend.

[Dutch]

I've actually forgotten that "chink" was a slang word for a Chineese person. Until now, whew, I'd hate to have forgotten that piece of slander. Now I can re-add it to my subconscious and hope I am never fired for accidentally using it.

[Desnudo]

An article I saw also said that Max Bretos tweeted that his wife is Asian, so it seems unlikely his was intentional.

the old "my best friend is black" defense...

[Desnudo]

I heard he also has a Jewish cousin and a black friend.

My best friend is black, btw you know black people are [insert racist comment here]

[stevew]

I don't know if anyone would want Amare, but he needs to go. He was -18 in Sundays 7 point win vs the Mavs.

[ISiddiqui]

the old "my best friend is black" defense...

Marrying someone of that ethnicity is a far cry from "best friend". One, you can exaggerate how close of a friend the ethnic person is - you can't really exaggerate how married you are. Secondly, being married requires a bit more trust than being a best friend.

[Lathum]

I think we have seen the bubble burst with this whole thing. The funny thing is I don't think it will be Lins fault. They have a very rough stretch over the next ten games, Melo is coming back and they will have to learn to play together, plus I think the biggest thing is other teams star players are tired of hearing about Lin and are going to elevate their games when they play him. IMO it is no coincidence Williams went off last night.

I see the Knicks going something like 3-7 over their next ten.

[Groundhog]

I think we have seen the bubble burst with this whole thing. The funny thing is I don't think it will be Lins fault. They have a very rough stretch over the next ten games, Melo is coming back and they will have to learn to play together, plus I think the biggest thing is other teams star players are tired of hearing about Lin and are going to elevate their games when they play him. IMO it is no coincidence Williams went off last night.

I see the Knicks going something like 3-7 over their next ten.

He still had 21-7-9 with 4 steals and 3 turnovers (which, considering his issues there, must have seemed like 0 for him), while Deron shot 8-14 from behind the arc.

I don't know that the bubble has burst just yet... I don't see him averaging 20+ppg over the duration of the season, but if he can score, rebound, and pass the ball, I don't see why he can't finish around 15-4-7 for the year, which is impressive.

[Young Drachma]

Yeah, no bubble burst at all. Deron was chucking and he was due for a good game after what Lin did to them the last time the two teams met. Melo was having a hard time adjusting, J.R. Smith is brand new and there's too much change on that team with Amare still acclimating to the team for them to have played well. Plus, they were on a back to back after grinding out a win against Dallas.

I'd hesitate to call the whole thing off and I don't buy them going completely flat. But if it does happens, it'll be a jolt. I doubt Lin is making teams want to "burst' the bubble, because I mean...the idea so many presuppose is that he's all hype, that he's not that good and that eventually he'll come crashing down. But he's proven that he's better than that and I think it's no different than hearing "too much" about Kobe or some other star who plays.

Is Lin on their level? No. But I think dismissing him as a fad at this point is completely ignoring what's happening in the games he's playing and I've watched every one of his starts and it's not a fluke. The kid can ball.

[Lathum]

Political correctness spun completely out of control

New York Knicks' Jeremy Lin -- Ben & Jerry's apologizes for 'Lin-Sanity' flavor - ESPN New York (http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/7617213/new-york-knicks-jeremy-lin-ben-jerry-apologizes-lin-sanity-flavor)

[Solecismic]

Political correctness spun completely out of control

New York Knicks' Jeremy Lin -- Ben & Jerry's apologizes for 'Lin-Sanity' flavor - ESPN New York (http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/7617213/new-york-knicks-jeremy-lin-ben-jerry-apologizes-lin-sanity-flavor)

I don't know. I'm not much for political correctness, but this strikes me as Linsensitive. Not to mention Linappropriately opportunistic. Ben and Jerry will get a free pass because of their well-known political views, but this is the first time in this whole Linfantile debate that I've felt uncomfortable. Notice the non-apology apology from Ben and Jerry. They're just happy to get back into the headlines.

[Matthean]

I'm mad because I now want fortune cookies in ice cream. :D

[miami_fan]

Are those that say he is a smart kid being insensitive? I mean talk about just going to the old stereotype.

[Easy Mac]

No, they're being fucking elitists.

[Klinglerware]

No, they're being fucking elitists.

Or is it more elitist to say that Lin isn't that smart because a 3.1 Harvard GPA is actually pretty mediocre?

[M GO BLUE!!!]

Lin needs to come out & say "put the fortune cookies back in the ice cream. there's nothing wrong with a little fun, as long as it doesn't get to the point of stupidity, Confucius say."

[fpres]

As a minority person with multiple ethnicities represented in my family tree, I can honestly say that I'm as offended by fortune cookie flavored ice cream as I would be if Ben and Jerry's introduced a nacho variation or a fried chicken variation. Read into that what you will.

[Bigsmooth]

As a minority person with multiple ethnicities represented in my family tree, I can honestly say that I'm as offended by fortune cookie flavored ice cream as I would be if Ben and Jerry's introduced a nacho variation or a fried chicken variation. Read into that what you will.

Whoa that's racist. Fried chicken isn't really a cultural cuisine like chinese food and mexican food.

[M GO BLUE!!!]

Whoa that's racist. Fried chicken isn't really a cultural cuisine like chinese food and mexican food.

They should replace the fortune cookies with fried chicken.

Fried Chicken & ice cream? It's LIN-SANE!

[Groundhog]

They should get the Spanish national basketball team to advertise it! :D

[Matthean]

Taste so good it would make you go linsane in da membrane.

[Neon_Chaos]

Dumpling flavored icecream. With free soysauce and chilli. Mmmmmm.

[Lathum]

I think we have seen the bubble burst with this whole thing. The funny thing is I don't think it will be Lins fault. They have a very rough stretch over the next ten games, Melo is coming back and they will have to learn to play together, plus I think the biggest thing is other teams star players are tired of hearing about Lin and are going to elevate their games when they play him. IMO it is no coincidence Williams went off last night.

I see the Knicks going something like 3-7 over their next ten.

Knicks 2-5 since I posted this with their only wins coming over Atlanta and Cleveland. They have lost 4 in a row and their next 5 games are the sixers, bulls, Portland and Indiana twice.

[M GO BLUE!!!]

Mentioning the Knicks PG by anything other than "PG Knicks" is now considered racist.

[sterlingice]

Mentioning the Knicks PG by anything other than "PG Knicks" is now considered racist.

Is "PG Knicks" as fast as "QB Eagles"?

SI

[M GO BLUE!!!]

Is "PG Knicks" as fast as "QB Eagles"?

SI

Well, he apparently can just run around everybody if you run one certain play to the left.

[EagleFan]

That loud sucking sound that you hear is coming from New York...

[sterlingice]

That loud sucking sound that you hear is coming from New York...

A loud sound of sucking can always be heard from New York...

SI

[cartman]

Lin will have knee surgery that will end his season.

Lin to have knee surgery, likely out for season (http://www.newsday.com/sports/basketball/knicks/lin-to-have-knee-surgery-likely-out-for-season-1.3635662?cmpid=Breaking_News_newsletter)

[Young Drachma]

Still, the kid solidified his NBA status and that's a heck of an ascent from almost being cut.

[Groundhog]

Yah. Sitting out the rest of the season is probably good for him too, as his stock can't get much higher as a FA but can probably sink lower.