WW CXLVI: Portal GAME OVER - Test8

[britrock88]

vote for another tester using your new tools.

Hmm.

[Narcizo]

Britrock88? What like The Wonderstuff and The Wedding Present and stuff?

[Narcizo]

So on to the eternal warewolf (sic) question of whether day one no shows should be voted out asap or not. I don't like voting guys just because they missed a day so I won't be going there. Leaving things pretty much/exactly where we were yesterday.

Say we assume that the wolves were equally in the dark about the stuck vote mechanic. Assume one (or more) of Autumn, Golden Eagle or Jackal are wolves. I think you might see a late move to protect one of them by one (or more) wolves who hadn't voted before it became clear that there was no vote-switching allowed. Leaving Ragone, tyketime and, possibly, Passacaglia (might have realised without commenting on it) with a potential connection with one of Autumn, GoldenEagle or The_Jackal. Not much to go on but, you know, there's not going to be that much to go on after a day one like that.

Vote Ragone

For now.

[Barkeep49]

Last time I checked in I thought everyone was all about the not voting for people who aren't around D1. You know what with the potential role-reveals and whatnot. Then again with no roles listed I've no idea what sort of role reveal would be accepted in this sort of game anyway.

Doing some major catch-up here (wasn't around after 9 AM Central) but I am a firm believer that a more active game is more fun.

[Barkeep49]

Alright given what's transpired, I would like to propose the following: Crimson is gradually introducing WW game mechanics, in the same way that Portal gradually introduces its game mechanics.

So, this would mean:
1. We were all Vanilla Villagers on Day 1.
2. We now have a BG in the game, in the form of the cube. Could be the cube is a player or an object, I would lean towards object and thus the BG is not a person but whoever has the cube.
3. I have a 3rd supposition but I hesitate to post it at this time. I post this here now, so that I can later cite it should it come into play.

Questions I still have:
*Are we going to see a lynch today?
*Have wolves been gradually introduced into the game yet as well?

[Narcizo]

So, this would mean:
1. We were all Vanilla Villagers on Day 1.


Um... that's a big assumption right there isn't it? I hadn't thought of it and it's a neat idea so it's worth considering but I don't think it's something we want to assume. Might explain why there was no lynch but then again the tied vote might explain it as well.

I think we're going to see a lynch today - but the only way to be sure is to vote and see.

[PackerFanatic]

Alright given what's transpired, I would like to propose the following: Crimson is gradually introducing WW game mechanics, in the same way that Portal gradually introduces its game mechanics.


That's an interesting thought...and definitely something to consider based on how things played out yesterday.

There is definitely a lot still up in the air and it would be dangerous of us to be so hasty in our assumptions.

[Marc Vaughan]

Rubs eyes .... never ever do international travel when subscribed to a WW game ;)

(now where were we again ;) )

[Simbo Klice]

Hmmm, so the first day was just a joke vote, nothing happened at night, and this will now be the official start of the regular game then? I guess I'll wait and let some of the vets hypothesize and take the initiative before I throw a vote down on anyone.

[Marc Vaughan]

Unfortunately MV being a no-show doesn't surprise me. I think I've been in a couple of games "with" him and never seen him post.

Aha - I'm back in the US now, so have to spoil my record with you ;)

(previously the games I played were when I was in the UK which always made it challenging as I tended to find alliances setup and myself voted out before I even woke up ;) )

For me:

Vote Marc Vaughan

As I'm feeling a bit left out .... normally by now someones thrown me to the wolves, this time I'm so hard done by I'll have to do it myself :D

[Autumn]

I wonder three things:

1. today CF introduces unvoting, but perhaps actual lynching won't be introduced until tomorow?
2. Do his instructions imply that we need to do an unvote if we want our vote to stick?
3. At what stage will night kills be introduced? I think BK may be on to something with the introduction of roles as well. It's an interesting ruleset.

I will make sure to unvote at some point today just in case.

[hoopsguy]

I think that BK's theories are as good as any at this point.

But if we assume that the BG came into the game, then I would also expect that we now have a wolf in the game as well. So how would the wolf/wolves have been assigned last night? Would it be driven in some way by the "non vote" yesterday or an entirely different mechanic?

My initial thoughts are to return to the candidates from yesterday with the idea that there would be some correlation between the people we voted yesterday and the emergence of wolves as roles evolved. Otherwise, the Day 1 vote was an even bigger waste of time than normal :)

[Julio Riddols]

UNVOTE JAG

[JAG]

I would guess the lynch happens starting today, at least I'm going with that, though I'm open to the idea it might not since it's not spelled out. Two days with no lynching would be a pretty slow start.

[Ragone]

Honestly Narcizo, i felt as if this wasn't going to be a standard lynch.. and that jackal was getting railroaded as goldeneagle had voted for him. Thats why i tied it up, in hopes that it would save jackal. Or at worst lynch both of them and get a wolf with a villager sacrifice.

I do also like the theory that everyone was villagers on day 1... and roles will be gradually introduced..

[Ragone]

As i consider a villager sacrifice to be a worst case scenario..

[PackerFanatic]

I would find it hard to believe if there was not at least one wolf yesterday. The way things are playing out so far, it's not farfetched to think that that wolf (or wolves) will not be given a NK until somewhere down the road (tonight, tomorrow) - or based on the tie, he wasn't able to use it?

[Simbo Klice]

I agree, PackerFanatic. I would have to think at least one person started as GlaaDos. Do you guys ever have cults in your games?

[Ragone]

We have the cube in game now.. so we are assuming its bg power.. so its also giving the assumptions that wolf or wolves will get a nk tonight

[Passacaglia]

So MV has checked in with an excuse, that makes me ready to roll on Chubby.

VOTE CHUBBY

I plan to unvote later after CF posts a vote count, just to make sure I can. But if I can't, I won't be torn up about it.

[The Jackal]

This is some interesting theorizing. I find it hard to believe that everyone was vanilla on D1. Unless we can be fairly sure of that mechanic as the days progress that would put the village at a huge disadvantage in terms of analyzing posts. Flinging wild accusations and such. But maybe's that what Crimson wants. Crazy bastard.

[The Jackal]

Analyzing posts AND votes, missed that.

[Passacaglia]

This is some interesting theorizing. I find it hard to believe that everyone was vanilla on D1. Unless we can be fairly sure of that mechanic as the days progress that would put the village at a huge disadvantage in terms of analyzing posts. Flinging wild accusations and such. But maybe's that what Crimson wants. Crazy bastard.

I kind of feel the same way, that this all may be barking up the wrong tree, in a way. On the other hand, I don't really have anything better to talk about, so felt no reason to speak out against it.

I guess it would be interesting to see who's on what side of this argument, then maybe we can look back and see if someone was trying to dismiss Day 1 voting as invalid, knowing that it could be potentially useful to us? Although I don't see how it would be with no unvoting allowed, and no lynch.

[Julio Riddols]

I'm with Passacaglia on this one.

VOTE CHUBBY

[The Jackal]

FWIW, I could definitely see Crimson pulling something like this, where roles are doled out as the days go on. Hard to speculate at this point, so will try to make an educated vote based on yesterday.

[bhlloy]

I can't believe Ragone is a wolf tying it up there. A bad villager play maybe but a wolf is more careful. So I'm not lookin there yet

Not much we can go on from day one, but I'm going to go here for now

Vote britrock88

[Autumn]

I can't imagine CF would so transparently tie the vote in with the introduction of wolves. I can imagine that there werne't any wolves day one, but I assume the introductoin would be random.

I don't know anythinga bout the bad guys in Portal. Are there any clues there in the game as to what hte mechanics might be?

[Marc Vaughan]

I don't know anythinga bout the bad guys in Portal. Are there any clues there in the game as to what hte mechanics might be?

From what I remember of 'Portal' the only bad guy was the computer who was running the tests ....

It could be that the entire thing is just one big psychological test to see how many people will be sacrificed for no real reason, would be kinda cool :D

That being said I'd have also thought the Portal setup would suit people being 'offered' assistance by the (slightly demented) computer system and thus gaining roles during the game ..... in return for doing certain things for the computer possibly? ..... dunno, working this out will be all part of the fun ... :D

[The Jackal]

It's been awhile since I played portal, I don't remember much about it except how cool advancing through the beginning part of the game was. Come to think of it I'm not sure I ever finished it.. need to rectify that.

[The Jackal]

VOTE RA

[The Jackal]

His was the 8th vote placed on a person (me)! Moreso this is for the timing of the vote, as 6 people had 1 vote and two had just gotten their second.

[The Jackal]

Well, Julio had been at 2 for a bit, but yeah.

[tyketime]

I'm also willing to go with Barkeep's theory regarding a gradual introduction of abilities (as others have pointed out - consistent with the game). Wouldn't that support the idea that perhaps the wolves didn't have the NK ability Night 1, but now with the protective cube in play, NK will most certainly begin tonight?

[PackerFanatic]

I'm also willing to go with Barkeep's theory regarding a gradual introduction of abilities (as others have pointed out - consistent with the game). Wouldn't that support the idea that perhaps the wolves didn't have the NK ability Night 1, but now with the protective cube in play, NK will most certainly begin tonight?

That was my thinking as well.

[KWhit]

I'm also willing to go with Barkeep's theory regarding a gradual introduction of abilities (as others have pointed out - consistent with the game). Wouldn't that support the idea that perhaps the wolves didn't have the NK ability Night 1, but now with the protective cube in play, NK will most certainly begin tonight?

I'm leaning toward this theory as well. But I think the wolves were probably already assigned at the beginning of the game. Otherwise day 1 would have no game play purpose whatsoever, right? Other than to confuse us by making it harder to get a handle on voting patterns later on.

[tyketime]

My initial thoughts are to return to the candidates from yesterday with the idea that there would be some correlation between the people we voted yesterday and the emergence of wolves as roles evolved. Otherwise, the Day 1 vote was an even bigger waste of time than normal :)
On one hand this could possibly prove valuable. Yet, if the wolves know that the candidates are all Villagers, it would be a good way to waste another vote or two.

[GoldenEagle]

Interesting. Essentially, we at a Day 1A. Today's vote will be another crapshoot with votes all over the place.

I tend to agree with bholiy that Ragone is not a direction we need to go today. I don't see him making that vote either if he is a wolf.

It looks like Chubby may be the choice as even a couple of people vote for him he will probably still have some form of punishment. I am curios if MV's votes will carry over as well, even though he has woken up.

[Narcizo]

Honestly Narcizo, i felt as if this wasn't going to be a standard lynch.. and that jackal was getting railroaded as goldeneagle had voted for him. Thats why i tied it up, in hopes that it would save jackal. Or at worst lynch both of them and get a wolf with a villager sacrifice.


I've no problem with your vote, it's probably the one I would have made in the circumstances as well. But you've got to look for information where you can get it and finding out if you are a wolf will give us (very little) information. But if it was all-villager on day one then the whole day was a waste and reveals nothing (except as a control experiment of how people act when it's all villager).

I just have difficulty seeing a whole day go by when it's all-villager. What's the point of that? But I'll agree it makes sense in terms of what (hasn't) happened.

[tyketime]

In reading over CF's instructions for today, he mentions a Special Test at 3PM PST today. I checked to see if there was any correlation with votes being locked in yesterday, but that message was at 5:46pm. So I don't think time is necessarily the mechanic in play.

[PackerFanatic]

I just have difficulty seeing a whole day go by when it's all-villager. What's the point of that? But I'll agree it makes sense in terms of what (hasn't) happened.

That's been my feeling too.

[PackerFanatic]

Thank you for your concise and brief interrogative. The tie mechanism is as follows. Those involved in a tie will be processed in the tie-evaluation chamber and be put through a series of tests involving, in no particular order of importance, their age, their weight, the number of hairs on their head, how much cake they have eaten that day, how much cake they can eat, the amount of posts made, and how much everyone hates them.

And the most important factor, beyond any previously listed is...ASFIJIUFAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIEEEMNMEZZZZZZHHZZHHEEEEEEF--*FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF*

*>CHIRP<*

Unless I missed it, has this been looked into at all? Do we know how many posts Jackal and GE had at the time of the vote?

[Narcizo]

I can't believe Ragone is a wolf tying it up there. A bad villager play maybe but a wolf is more careful. So I'm not lookin there yet


Why not? He's got to vote - he thinks there are two people left to vote. He can't make a throwaway vote because that would look terrible. I'd say he's pretty much got to make that vote whether he's a wolf or a villager. I certainly don't see it as a bad villager play.

[tyketime]

My unofficial tally:

Ragone (1) - Narcizo (253)
Marc Vaughn (1) - Marc Vaughn (260)
Chubby (2) - Passacaglia (270), Julio Riddols (274)
Bitrock88 (1) - bhlloy (276)
Raiders Army (1) - The Jackal (280)

[tyketime]

...But you've got to look for information where you can get it and finding out if you are a wolf will give us (very little) information. But if it was all-villager on day one then the whole day was a waste and reveals nothing (except as a control experiment of how people act when it's all villager).
Why not? He's got to vote - he thinks there are two people left to vote. He can't make a throwaway vote because that would look terrible. I'd say he's pretty much got to make that vote whether he's a wolf or a villager. I certainly don't see it as a bad villager play.
But if it turned out he was a wolf, wouldn't that point us towards one of the other two as another probable suspect?

[bhlloy]

Why not? He's got to vote - he thinks there are two people left to vote. He can't make a throwaway vote because that would look terrible. I'd say he's pretty much got to make that vote whether he's a wolf or a villager. I certainly don't see it as a bad villager play.

Better a throwaway vote than a vote that ties it up with no vote switching and the two people left nowhere to be seen. If he is a wolf and he was advised to make that play then we have some bad wolves. I hope if we have roles he was scanned or is on the radar to be scanned just in case but it's enough of a non wolf move that I feel very comfortable not using a lynch there today.

[bhlloy]

If anyone cares why I have britrock btw, the early vote with the disclaimer that he won't be around for the rest of the day, and then apologizing to Zinto and saying he wouldn't have voted for him if he'd been around but not actually unvoting him is interesting to me. In the kind of could be a wolf trying to avoid attention and doing his hardest to not piss anyone off way

But I'm sure I'm reading way too much into day one, as usual

[Narcizo]

I disagree - better a tie than a throwaway vote.

Okay there's the risk that a tie will result in a no-lynch but otherwise I don't understand why everyone is so down on ties. And even if it results in a no-lynch there's still information to be gained from the voting. A throwaway might as well be a no vote.

All pretty theoretical however. I'm still trying to decide if there is any information at all to be taken from day one or if it's just time to start a-fresh. I really hope it isn't the latter.

[Barkeep49]

Have I missed it or have neither of the winners explained what they won from the vote yesterday? I have to think something happened such that Day 1 wasn't a complete waste of time. We know it wasn't a lynch, so I'm really curious what it might have been.

[Barkeep49]

Have I missed it or have neither of the winners explained what they won from the vote yesterday? I have to think something happened such that Day 1 wasn't a complete waste of time. We know it wasn't a lynch, so I'm really curious what it might have been.
Winners and won should be in quotes in this post.

[GoldenEagle]

I didn't "win" anything special from the vote yesterday. That means either The Jackal beat me in the duel and won whatever there was to win or it was a complete waste of time.

[JAG]

Vote bhlloy

For only one reason.

[JAG]

Unvote bhlloy

And that was it.

[JAG]

Vote Raiders Army

I don't really have a lot of thoughts on things at this point. This vote is a simple 'I feel mildly ok about Jackal and mildly un-ok about RA so I'm 2 * mildly ok with this vote.'

[hoopsguy]

I'm going to return to my Day 1 vote because I haven't had any reason to change it up to this point. Willing to be persuaded, since I see JAG feels "mildly OK about Jackal" ... wondering about the foundation for any kind of vibe feelings at this point.

VOTE THE JACKAL
UNVOTE THE JACKAL
VOTE THE JACKAL

[bhlloy]

Why me JAG, if I can ask?

As for the tie, the other outcome is we kill two villagers on day one and put ourselves in a hole. The chance of two villagers being in the lead on day one before the herd is thinned out is pretty high. I'd rather see a throwaway or somebody pushed ahead, but it's entirely possible I've always been looking at it the wrong way

[PackerFanatic]

Does everyone really think they need to unvote for their vote to count?

[bhlloy]

Well if all the cool kids are doing it...

I do wonder if unvotes are the actual votes for this round, which is why I am interested in knowing why JAG chose me an then voted for someone else

Unvote britrock
Vote britrock

[bhlloy]

Does everyone really think they need to unvote for their vote to count?

Considering how far out of his way CF went to mention it, I think it's a definite possibility

[KWhit]

Considering how far out of his way CF went to mention it, I think it's a definite possibility

What do you mean by this?

[KWhit]

From reading back through CF's posts there is nothing that makes me think you HAVE to unvote for your vote to count. Where are you guys getting that theory?

[bhlloy]

I mean unvotes are a regular part of WW. Everybody knows how to use them. So why does CF go into such detail unless this is today's test? I think it's very likely that unvoting specifically has something to do with how today's votes are going to be tabulated

[PackerFanatic]

Unvotes are a regular part - if mentioned in the rules. Which they were not. If you look back at page 1 now, he has added it to his list. I think it's more likely that he is introducing things gradually (as has been said) than trying to draw attention to particular things.

[CrimsonFox]

Don't forget that Aperture Science "Take Your Daughter To Work" Day is the perfect time to have her tested.

>*CHIRP*<

[bhlloy]

Well I guess we will find out this evening. Put it this way, I don't see any harm in doing it

[KWhit]

I mean unvotes are a regular part of WW. Everybody knows how to use them. So why does CF go into such detail unless this is today's test? I think it's very likely that unvoting specifically has something to do with how today's votes are going to be tabulated

Yeah, I just think he was "cleverly" letting us know that this is now a part of the ruleset.

[PackerFanatic]

That's the way I am looking at it too, KWhit - but I do agree with you on that bhlloy. No harm in it - was just asking :)

[Ragone]

As of right this second.. we have no real basis to vote on.. if someone does happen
To have seer ability(I don't think the role is active in game yet) we need more time to
Flesh out the good from the bad.. I'm willing to change vote later on if a revelation comes out.
vote chubby

[Simbo Klice]

From what I remember of 'Portal' the only bad guy was the computer who was running the tests ....

It could be that the entire thing is just one big psychological test to see how many people will be sacrificed for no real reason, would be kinda cool :D

That being said I'd have also thought the Portal setup would suit people being 'offered' assistance by the (slightly demented) computer system and thus gaining roles during the game ..... in return for doing certain things for the computer possibly? ..... dunno, working this out will be all part of the fun ... :D

It would be kind of funny to just have all vanilla townies, and just have it come down to last man standing... I guess we'll know more after this day and night phase.

[JAG]

We're testers. Not participating in a test is a bad thing. Today's test is on unvoting. bhlloy, I just picked someone I didn't have feelings about one way or another and someone I didn't see myself voting for today. hoops, like I said, I don't have anything firm to back up my feelings. My hunch is the trio of Autumn / GE / Jackal are regular testers.

[bhlloy]

I think any votes on Chubby are probably pretty redundant if yesterday's rules hold. Usually I'm a big fan of voting out the inactives but if he gets +3 just for not showing up I don't see the rush

Disclaimer: I have no idea if he will get +3 but I still think we might be better to look elsewhere and get some voting history seeing as we got close to zero yesterday

[JAG]

I think voting Chubby is a mistake, unless he shows up. If he doesn't show up, then you've probably wasted your votes because CF is likely to strike him down anyway.

[JAG]

Jinx

[GoldenEagle]

I don't know if the unvote is the test or not. To me, it was more along the lines of CF saying we could now unvote. But I will go ahead and unvote just to comply with the test.

UNVOTE THE JACKAL

[KWhit]

We're testers. Not participating in a test is a bad thing. Today's test is on unvoting.

That's a good thought. That didn't occur to me.

[Marc Vaughan]

Unvote Marc Vaughan

[Marc Vaughan]

(what can I say - the unvoting being the test kinda makes sense to me)

[Barkeep49]

We're testers. Not participating in a test is a bad thing. Today's test is on unvoting.

I think there might be wisdom here.

Vote Marc Vaughn
Unvote Marc Vaughn

[Barkeep49]

I didn't "win" anything special from the vote yesterday. That means either The Jackal beat me in the duel and won whatever there was to win or it was a complete waste of time.
Jackal?

[GoldenEagle]

Jackal?

I would be interested in hearing what he has to say as well. CF went out of his way to explain the tiebreaker rule and then obviously nothing came out of it, at least publicly. If Jackal also got nothing, I think that means one of two things:

1) There is some validity about things slowing evolving. There was no Day 1 lynch because Day 1 is still evolving.
2) Jackal has a duke sort of role and used it to save himself (and me I guess as well)

[Narcizo]

I don't know if the unvote is the test or not. To me, it was more along the lines of CF saying we could now unvote.

Ex-bleedin'-actly. All this unvoting is doing my head in. Are we all turning into Danny as the Joker? Test = day as far as I can see at the moment, with Test 1 being getting signed up.

As to why no-one got lynched it seems that there's a very important but hidden mechanic used as a tie-breaker. I wouldn't be surprised if it's longest held vote or something banal like that. If that's the case then it would support there being no real contest on day one as otherwise one of them would have been lynched.

I don't think we should read too much into all these posts by CF - most of them seem to be ways of introducing the rules whilst causing confusion.

[The Jackal]

I didn't "win" anything special from the vote yesterday. That means either The Jackal beat me in the duel and won whatever there was to win or it was a complete waste of time.

Nothing happened to me either

[The Jackal]

Just in case..

UNVOTE GE
UNVOTE RA
VOTE RA

[The Jackal]

I probably failed both of these tests, missed the lack of unvote D1, voted before unvoting D2. Go me!

[The Jackal]

Give them cake!

[KWhit]

Actually, I bet the 3 votes that Chubby and MV got yesterday is because they failed yesterday's test (voting). They didn't vote.

So if you don't unvote today, you'll be getting a 3 vote bump.

Makes sense, right?

[KWhit]

Vote Chubby

Unvote Chubby

[GoldenEagle]

What is the logic on voting for RA? He has not done anything out of the ordinary but he seems to be the vote leader at this point.

[The Jackal]

What is the logic on voting for RA? He has not done anything out of the ordinary but he seems to be the vote leader at this point.

In a day that's hard to analyze, I'm voting for him mostly because he placed the 8th vote on a person (me, call it subconscious revenge if you like) when two others had two. It's hardly much considering some are still arguing that there may not have even been wolves yesterday.

[PackerFanatic]

I think pretty much everyone, to this point, as unvoted first...so in order to help prove the point one way or another about the tests, I am going to be a willing guinea pig and see what happens.

VOTE JACKAL

[The Jackal]

I like how I'm part of people testing things. I trust in the craziness of this game to either save me, or provide an epic death.

[Passacaglia]

I think pretty much everyone, to this point, as unvoted first...so in order to help prove the point one way or another about the tests, I am going to be a willing guinea pig and see what happens.

VOTE JACKAL

I'm with you, actually -- have not unvoted.

[hoopsguy]

I like how I'm part of people testing things. I trust in the craziness of this game to either save me, or provide an epic death.

If we're talking about a werewolf lynch vote, my money is on ****ZZZAAAAPPPPPPP!!!!!***** over some kind of a save scenario.

[Passacaglia]

In a day that's hard to analyze, I'm voting for him mostly because he placed the 8th vote on a person (me, call it subconscious revenge if you like) when two others had two. It's hardly much considering some are still arguing that there may not have even been wolves yesterday.

You've mentioned his placing the 8th vote twice now. Are you ascribing some sort of significance to the 8th vote, or are you just choosing a random ordinal number?

[JAG]

Ex-bleedin'-actly. All this unvoting is doing my head in. Are we all turning into Danny as the Joker? Test = day as far as I can see at the moment, with Test 1 being getting signed up.

As to why no-one got lynched it seems that there's a very important but hidden mechanic used as a tie-breaker. I wouldn't be surprised if it's longest held vote or something banal like that. If that's the case then it would support there being no real contest on day one as otherwise one of them would have been lynched.

I don't think we should read too much into all these posts by CF - most of them seem to be ways of introducing the rules whilst causing confusion.

I disagree:

We wait in joyful anticipation for the following to complete this test.


Have not voted: Ragone, Chubby, tyketime, Passacaglia, Marc Vaughn

The test is complete and two have failed. Congratulations to the rest of you who tested in the 90th percentile of all testers who took this test.

Stand by for radioactive tabulations. Please don the protective radioactive-proof suits which will be arriving to your location in 3...2...2...2...2...2...22...2222.2.22..22.2.22.2.22.2.2.2.222...
>*CHIRP*<

Test 3 - Unvoting
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Unvoting is the art of removing a previously made vote. Some people make a living at it. You all remember how to vote?

Let's use Mary again.

VOTE MARY

You see what I did there? I voted for Mary.
Now let's unvote Mary

UNVOTE MARY

The same principals apply. Use boldface just as you would a vote. Now it is as if you never voted and can now vote for someone else like Chuck or even better the person that--**FFFFFFFFFFFFFFF..**

>CHIRP<

[KWhit]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox
The test is complete and two have failed. Congratulations to the rest of you who tested in the 90th percentile of all testers who took this test.


Right. I originally thought the 2 he was talking about were the ones who tied for the most votes. But that's not what he meant at all. He meant the two that failed the test by not voting at all - Chubby and MV.

[KWhit]

Calculations tabulated. Test Results complete.

GoldenEagle 4 - bhlloy, Narcizo, Passacaglia, Ragone
The_Jackal 4- Raiders_Army, hoopsguy, GoldenEagle, tyketime
Marc_Vaughan 3
Chubby 3
Autumn 3 - PackerFanatic, Zinto, Darth_Vilus
Julio Riddols 2 - JAG, Simbo Klice
JAG 2 - Barkeep, Julio_Riddols
Narcizo 1 - The_Jackal
KWHIT 1 - Autumn
Chubby 1 - KWHIT
Zinto 1 - britrock


The winner of the vote is The_Jackal and GoldenEagle. There will now be a special party just for them. A pity party.


Although I think there is an error in his writeup - or something else weird is going on.

Hey, Gladdy! Should Chubby actually have 4 votes and tied with the other 2 guys? He's on this list twice - once for when I voted for him, and then the 3 vote extra thing.

[Autumn]

Julio Riddols 2 - JAG, Simbo Klice
JAG 2 - Barkeep, Julio_Riddols
Zinto 1 - britrock
Autumn 3 - PackerFanatic, Zinto, Darth_Vilus
Narcizo 1 - The_Jackal
KWHIT 1 - Autumn
GoldenEagle 4 - bhlloy, Narcizo, Passacaglia, Ragone
The_Jackal 4- Raiders_Army, hoopsguy, GoldenEagle, tyketime
Chubby 1 - KWHIT

This is the vote count CF posted at the time that he mentioned that his apparatus (hey!) could even count votes from the future. I want to double check - is everybody's vote accurate here? Are there any votes here that weren't actually placed in thread?

[Ragone]

unvote goldeneagle
Unvote chubby

Just covering my bases just in case votes are possibly carried over from yesterday

[GoldenEagle]

So there was supposed to be a test at 3 PM EST today, right? If so, did we need to unvote before the test deadline?

[JAG]

From my quick look through the thread, only 7 people have properly voted and then unvoted: britrock88, JAG, hoopsguy, bhlloy, Barkeep49, The Jackal, and KWhit. The rest of you need to unvote properly (make a vote then unvote it) at some point during the day or else you will likely incur penalty votes. Of course if you're a wolf, I recommend not doing this as a courtesy to us testers.

[JAG]

KWhit, that's a nice catch. I missed that.

[JAG]

Maybe the upcoming special test is the lynch vote?

[Autumn]

hey, let's repeat yesterday, since I know nothing more nwo than I did.

<b>VOTE KWHIT
UNVOTE KWHIT
VOTE THE JACKAL</b>

[PackerFanatic]

I almost feel bad for CF having to keep track of these votes...but he brought it on himself :-D

[GoldenEagle]

VOTE AUTUMN
UNVOTE AUTUMN
VOTE THE JACKAL

I see no reason to change my vote from yesterday either.

[Passacaglia]

So there was supposed to be a test at 3 PM EST today, right? If so, did we need to unvote before the test deadline?

PST bro

[Narcizo]

Just want to test posting from my iPhone.

And I disagree with Jag disagreeing with me.

Bah I see no square brackets. So no bold

Oooh lets try this

[bhlloy]

Unvote EVERYBODY

Just covering the bases

[Ragone]

Hmm I unvoted a bit ago jag.. don't think it was valid?

[CrimsonFox]

Although I think there is an error in his writeup - or something else weird is going on.

Hey, Gladdy! Should Chubby actually have 4 votes and tied with the other 2 guys? He's on this list twice - once for when I voted for him, and then the 3 vote extra thing.

You are very smart. You must be the pride and joy of **SUBJECT HOMETOWN HERE**.
Why don't you go perform a special test in the traffic over there?

**(ELECTRIC SHOCK) BZZZZZZT**

[KWhit]

Hey! That stings!

[Narcizo]

I have this, adding onto tykes vote count in #293

Ragone (1) - Narcizo (253)
Chubby (3) - Passacaglia (270), Julio Riddols (274), Ragone (317)
Bitrock88 (1) - bhlloy (276)
Raiders Army (2) - The Jackal (280), JAG (303)
Jackal (4) - Hoops (304), Packer (339), Autumn (353), GoldenEagle (355)

All the unvoting makes me extremely unsure if that's right.

[JAG]

Hmm I unvoted a bit ago jag.. don't think it was valid?

You posted while I was writing mine, I think you're fine.

[GoldenEagle]

PST bro

Ah, I see. I guess I missed that.

[Narcizo]

Looks like an iantersting "run" on teh Jackal. I was leaning that way as well but I'm rethinking. Pretty wary of people voting Chubby - if he's a villager then it's a great place to vote as a wolf as you're hoping for the +3 to get him lynched. If he's a wolf and I was a wolf I'd be throwing him under the bus anyway at this stage.

I'm wondering why Jackal has a bee in his bonnet about Raiders having the 8th vote. Has there been some sort of extensive research that shows that a wolf is likely to vote 8th? If there is then I should keep my vote on Ragone. I don't want to leave my vote standing alone when I leave and I don't have a decent read on anyone - other than faintly good vibes from Jag and KWhit. So I'll

Unvote Ragone
Vote Raiders Army

[Ragone]

Did you all also consider that maybe we can unvote only once thisss test?

[Autumn]

Narc, I assume Jackal's reasoning is not htat 8th is important, but that there were a lot of choices at that point, but that RA added another choice instead of casting a second vote.

[GoldenEagle]

We don't need another tie today.

[Narcizo]

Narc, I assume Jackal's reasoning is not htat 8th is important, but that there were a lot of choices at that point, but that RA added another choice instead of casting a second vote.

Ahh! I should probably have read more closely. I thought it seemed bizarre how he was banging on about it like it was the Third Law of Werewolf. Seems to me that people land on either side of the fence of whether it's too soon or too late to consolidate the vote at any given time based on a plethora of other factors.

[Narcizo]

That will be the last from me. You can lock my vote as it's not going to change now.

[Ragone]

vote Raiders Army

I'm also on board with narcizo's reasoning

[GoldenEagle]

So this is the second day in a row there has been a run to save The Jackal after he was the early vote leader. Yesterday it was me who accumulated the votes and today it is Raiders Army.

I am not sure how to use this information yet, but I find it interesting.

[The Jackal]

You've mentioned his placing the 8th vote twice now. Are you ascribing some sort of significance to the 8th vote, or are you just choosing a random ordinal number?

It's partially because it was a vote on me, and being that I have little to go on other than I know I'm not a wolf, that ever so slightly increases the odds in favor of RA being one.

8th isn't necessarily worse or better than 7th or 9th, just referencing how many votes had been spread out.

[The Jackal]

Narc, I assume Jackal's reasoning is not htat 8th is important, but that there were a lot of choices at that point, but that RA added another choice instead of casting a second vote.

This. Sorry I mentioned the number 8 twice, I guess, I was just clarifying my reasoning for GE since he missed it in the first place. :)

[The Jackal]

People take my signature to heart, GE, it's cool, that's why there are early runs!

[The Jackal]

Can't really argue with people voting for me. Potential to clear up or at least have a piece of info to help decipher D1 voting, and now D2. Don't expect me to come out with a reveal, unless it's about how much I hate New Jersey. Which isn't really a reveal, since that's common knowledge.

[The Jackal]

So this is the second day in a row there has been a run to save The Jackal after he was the early vote leader. Yesterday it was me who accumulated the votes and today it is Raiders Army.

I am not sure how to use this information yet, but I find it interesting.

Early game runs are always fishy, at the time it's hard to tell who pushes them (and it's almost always villagers), so there needs to be a second candidate to make people feel better. Runaways don't do anything for the village, only benefit the wolves (unless it's a wolf, of course). But even if it is a wolf, you still aren't smoking any other wolves out by having 2-3 candidates to see vote movement.

All that jibber jabber aside, I get your point. People like me, what of it?!

[The Jackal]

But even if it is a wolf, you still aren't smoking any other wolves out by not having 2-3 candidates to see vote movement

Forgot the negative there

[The Jackal]

Or is that now a double negative? I've answered too many emails today, brain fuzz.

[The Jackal]

People letting me post eight times in a row, they must enjoy the sound of my voice because it makes them reminisce about the drunken harp.

[Darth Vilus]

I'm soooo confused lol

[tyketime]

So this is the second day in a row there has been a run to save The Jackal after he was the early vote leader. Yesterday it was me who accumulated the votes and today it is Raiders Army.

I am not sure how to use this information yet, but I find it interesting.
I am not sure whether it is relevant or not, but I would like to find out. So I'll vote him up again to see if there is additional movement to save him.

VOTE THE JACKAL

[tyketime]

oh - I do agree with those who state we should all participate in the testing, so...

UNVOTE THE JACKAL
VOTE THE JACKAL

[tyketime]

I'm heading out to dinner now - so I will miss the 6pm festivities. Will someone save me a piece of cake, please? I will be back before deadline though...

[CrimsonFox]

They don't make testers like they used to.
(A panel in the floor opens up under Chubby and he falls through and disappears.)

Let me replace this tester with a fresh new Aperture Science Tester, now with more teeth.

You can call it mckerney.

(Another tester falls through a hole in the ceiling and lands in front of you)

>*CHIRP*<

[Darth Vilus]

We've been bamboozled!!!!!!!

[CrimsonFox]

(DM note...I have replaced Chubby with mckerney if that wasn't obvious enough)

[CrimsonFox]

Oh, that wasn't the surprise. Did you think that was the surprise? It wasn't really that surprising was it?

>*chirp*<

[CrimsonFox]

The Aperture Science Ultracrimsonized Hypercolliding Super Button is a wonderful thing. You can do all sorts of things with it. You can...well, you can PRESS it. If you want to press it, go ahead. You're just dying to press it aren't you. It kind of looks like candy. However, we are not responsible for loss of life caused by eating the button.

3933

If you wish to press the button, simply say PRESS BUTTON. This precludes any other test duties you have for the day. YOu will not be able to vote today as you will be too busy pressing the button. The button just wants to be pressed.

[Zinto]

I am really confused on why everyone seems to think that any movement away from Jackal is an effort to save him. A runoff on day two will give us no information for the future.

[Zinto]

Oh and I love buttons so...

Press button

[Zinto]

I may get stuck here since everyone who plays portal knows that someone has to stay on a button so we can advance. Usually it was my best friend who I left behind

[Zinto]

Oh and I find it extra weird that people have decided to start their votes and unvotes with an unvote since clearly the tester asked us to vote then to unvote.

[Zinto]

And for full disclosure I would vote for whoever was in second to Jackal today even though I have no idea who that is currently.

[CrimsonFox]

Oh, you pressed the button? Oh I see. Very well. I did not think you would press the button. Really? You really pressed it. That is the fastest recorded time of button pressing ever.

(A crashing noise is heard elsewhere)

[The Jackal]

It's RA, Zinto.

[The Jackal]

PRESS BUTTON

[The Jackal]

If you're going to sacrifice me, I'm at least gonna have some fun.

[bhlloy]

My vote choice doesn't seem to be getting any traction today and I'm not sold on Jackal so

Press button

[Zinto]

If pressing the button multiple times does nothing I think we have to be smart about more than one person doing an action so that way, in this case, three people are not voting.

[Zinto]

Pretty much it is an easy way to avoid making a decision if you can and it is not going to help the village in the future if no one is voting.

[CrimsonFox]

Starting up the Radioactive Voting Tabulator. Please put on your protective shades.

mckerney 3 - Passacaglia Julio Ragone
britrock 1 - bhlloy
Raiders Army 4 - Jackal JAG Narcizo Ragone
Jackal 5 - hoopsguy PackerFan Autumn GoldenEagle tyketime

If there are any corrections, please shout loudly into this vacuum tube.

>*CHIRP*<

[Ragone]

You got me down as voting twice cf..

[CrimsonFox]

Please Speak Into the tube please...

[bhlloy]

So it seems like pressing the button may have been the catalyst for the votes bring locked in today? Interesting

[JAG]

It doesn't say votes are locked, no?

[bhlloy]

No, it doesn't I guess

[The Jackal]

So overtime and my semi-media blackout lead me to JUST finding out that Giroux is suspended. CRAP.

[KWhit]

Let's see if they're locked in (though we won't know unless CF posts another vote tally).

VOTE JACKAL

[KWhit]

I'm voting Jackal right now mainly because I don't want another tie. And it might give us a little information since he was in the running both days. But I have no reason to really suspect him as being a wolf.

[CrimsonFox]

mckerney 2 - Passacaglia Julio
britrock 1 - bhlloy
Raiders Army 4 - Jackal JAG Narcizo Ragone
Jackal 6 - hoopsguy PackerFan Autumn GoldenEagle tyketime KWHIT

[bhlloy]

Unvote britrock
Vote Raiders Army

Didn't seem to be much downside to a tie yesterday and I don't think a runaway on Jackal helps us much. And this button seems to be busted.

[Zinto]

I guess we can throw away my thoughts about multiple people pressing buttons since it seems it is a first come first serve kind of thing. More than likely I pressed my only button for the game and let some others have their fun next time.

[mckerney]

Hello everyone, just your standard shower curtain developer salesman here.

[CrimsonFox]

Radioactive Voting Tabulator

mckerney 2 - Passacaglia Julio
Raiders Army 5 - Jackal JAG Narcizo Ragone bhlloy
Jackal 6 - hoopsguy PackerFan Autumn GoldenEagle tyketime KWHIT

[mckerney]

Unfortunately I don't have a lot of time before the deadline, getting as caught up as I can. In the meantime, it looks like I can take part in an activity here at Aperture Science that I enjoy, voting for someone who isn't me.

Vote mckerney
Unvote mckerney
Vote Raiders Army

[CrimsonFox]

Radioactive Voting Tabulator update

mckerney 2 - Passacaglia Julio
Raiders Army 6 - Jackal JAG Narcizo Ragone bhlloy mckerney
Jackal 6 - hoopsguy PackerFan Autumn GoldenEagle tyketime KWHIT

[KWhit]

I guess we can throw away my thoughts about multiple people pressing buttons since it seems it is a first come first serve kind of thing. More than likely I pressed my only button for the game and let some others have their fun next time.

Did anything happen? Did you get a PM about something after pressing the button?

[KWhit]

Hmmmmm........ I wonder why my name is in all caps in CF's posts.


I was the one who voted right after the button press. Interesting......

[Darth Vilus]

i don't really have an opinion on either raider nor jackal.

Vote Jackal

Let's see if we can catch a wolf today (are they called wolves in this game?)

[The Jackal]

That's either really good or really bad for me. Probably really bad.

[Darth Vilus]

Vote Jackal

[The Jackal]

DV voted for me, surprise!

[The Jackal]

He's just jealous that he played a bard who was in no way shape or form entertaining.

[The Jackal]

CF, if they kill me, please let me come back as a ghost or some machine to terrorize them. Thank you.

[Raiders Army]

Ok. Catching up on my phone. Worked late and at my daughters concert

[Raiders Army]

I'm not getting the votes on me unless there's something to Jackal and possibly Autumn.

In self defense
VOTE THE JACKAL

[Darth Vilus]

He's just jealous that he played a bard who was in no way shape or form entertaining.

I'm sorry, are you talking about me? See it's hard to understand, I don't speak Little Bitch :D

[CrimsonFox]

Radioactive Voting Tabulator update

mckerney 2 - Passacaglia Julio
Raiders Army 6 - Jackal JAG Narcizo Ragone bhlloy mckerney
Jackal 8 - hoopsguy PackerFan Autumn GoldenEagle tyketime KwHiT Darth Raiders

[Darth Vilus]

Just kidding Jacky :) It was fun kicking your ass last game

[Raiders Army]

Also I was the first vote on Jackal so why me? Anyhow I'm pretty much out for the next couple of hours. The concert is about to begin

[CrimsonFox]

Also I was the first vote on Jackal so why me? Anyhow I'm pretty much out for the next couple of hours. The concert is about to begin


<iframe width="480" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/2XGRmaiCpPU" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Is it this? A nice cheery story about a creature that comes to life and kills things?

>*CHIRP*<

[Darth Vilus]

You know peeping through a window to a men's locker room doesn't count as a concert right?

[The Jackal]

Also I was the first vote on Jackal so why me? Anyhow I'm pretty much out for the next couple of hours. The concert is about to begin

Have fun at the concert!

I voted for you 1) because of the timing of your vote yesterday, the 8th, yes I said 8th. That's #8. You'll understand why I'm repeating later. Just because it spread the vote out more. And 2) Because it was a vote on me.

I honestly didn't know that I would be such a strong candidate today, not that it's out of the blue. It's kind of strange that everyone voted for who I voted for, but whatever.

[Barkeep49]

I want to believe winning yesterday's vote meant something, I just have a hard time believing it means Jackal is bad.

[b]Zvote RA[\b]

[KWhit]

KwHiT


I think Gladdy has a crush on me.

[CrimsonFox]

I want to believe winning yesterday's vote meant something, I just have a hard time believing it means Jackal is bad.

Zvote RA[\b]
[B]
Formatting Error. Weaponry deployed. Shooting commencing.
*RAT-a-tat-tat-tat*

[hoopsguy]

I'm sorry, are you talking about me? See it's hard to understand, I don't speak Little Bitch :D

Jackal was right - still not entertaining :D

[CrimsonFox]

I think Gladdy has a crush on me.

There is even a little heart to dot the i.

[Darth Vilus]

When you get to level 10 in a dungeon game without the aid of any other players I might listen to what you have to say Hoopsy :lol:

[Barkeep49]

Let's try again.

Vote RA

[CrimsonFox]

Radioactive Voting Tabulator update

mckerney 2 - Passacaglia Julio
Raiders Army 7 - Jackal JAG Narcizo Ragone bhlloy mckerney Barkeep
Jackal 8 - hoopsguy PackerFan Autumn GoldenEagle tyketime kWhIt Darth Raiders

[britrock88]

Here for the stretch run. As a VV and a first-time WW participant, I'm having a hard time trying to justify a lynching when we have no real idea of any wolf's identity. It's a 25% proposition.

[KWhit]

Here for the stretch run. As a VV and a first-time WW participant, I'm having a hard time trying to justify a lynching when we have no real idea of any wolf's identity. It's a 25% proposition.

You can't make an omelet without lynching some eggs.

[The Jackal]

You can't make an omelet without lynching some eggs.

I'm getting poached

[Ragone]

Pretty sure you are about to be scrambled.. but once its revealed.. we will have a good list of potential wolves.. just hping my hunch was right

[Passacaglia]

UNVOTE MCKERNEY
VOTE RAIDERS ARMY

[KWhit]

Why?

[Raiders Army]

Have fun at the concert!

I voted for you 1) because of the timing of your vote yesterday, the 8th, yes I said 8th. That's #8. You'll understand why I'm repeating later. Just because it spread the vote out more. And 2) Because it was a vote on me.

I honestly didn't know that I would be such a strong candidate today, not that it's out of the blue. It's kind of strange that everyone voted for who I voted for, but whatever.

Back home now. I understand the #2 reason. The #1 reason is okay I guess, but right now it's strange that so many other people agree with you.

Anyhow, I don't have any strong feelings one way or another. The only strong(-ish) feeling I have is about Autumn and yesterday's vote. It seemed a strange mechanic to lock the votes and whether he initiated the lock or if it was just coincidence, I would've gone his way today.

[CrimsonFox]

Radioactive Voting Tabulator update

mckerney 1 - JuLiO
Raiders Army 8 - JaCkAl JaG NaRcIzO RaGoNe BhLlOy McKeRnEy BaRkEeP PaSsAcAgLiA
Jackal 8 - HoOpSgUy PaCkErFaN AuTuMn GoLdEnEaGlE TyKeTiMe KwHiT DaRtH RaIdErS

[CrimsonFox]

If anyone sees the Metabolic Capslock Key Contoller, please let me know.

>*BLEEPZ*<

[britrock88]

I would bet a lot that yesterday's votes were locked without any triggering.

[Raiders Army]

Radioactive Voting Tabulator update

mckerney 1 - JuLiO
Raiders Army 8 - JaCkAl JaG NaRcIzO RaGoNe BhLlOy McKeRnEy BaRkEeP PaSsAcAgLiA
Jackal 8 - HoOpSgUy PaCkErFaN AuTuMn GoLdEnEaGlE TyKeTiMe KwHiT DaRtH RaIdErS

Hrm. So is the hidden message "JLO JCAJAGNRIORGNBLOMKREBREPPSAALA HOSUPCEFNATMGLEEGETKTMKHTDRHRIES"? Maybe I'm reading too much into it.

[GoldenEagle]

I am going to change my vote if no one else does. We don't need another tie.

[Raiders Army]

I would bet a lot that yesterday's votes were locked without any triggering.

Could be, but then again I wouldn't assume anything right now.

[Passacaglia]

Anyone not voted yet?

[Raiders Army]

I am going to change my vote if no one else does. We don't need another tie.

Man, let JAG do it, not you! I don't wanna be lynched!

[Passacaglia]

I think britrock?

[Passacaglia]

I am going to change my vote if no one else does. We don't need another tie.

I don't think that will be needed, if everyone else sticks, britrock decides.

[Passacaglia]

britrock, you've got five minutes to decide -- after that, GE and I are both changing our votes to avoid a tie.

[Raiders Army]

BTW since I haven't stated it, I'm a simple Aperture Science Tester. You won't lose any big role by lynching me if that helps. :)

[Raiders Army]

britrock, you've got five minutes to decide -- after that, GE and I are both changing our votes to avoid a tie.

Ummm....if both of you change your votes, won't that create a tie?

[Passacaglia]

Ummm....if both of you change your votes, won't that create a tie?

Yes, that was a joke.

[britrock88]

I think britrock?

Myself, Zinto, Simbo Klice, Marc Vaughan, as best as I can tell.

[Passacaglia]

Does The Jackal's vote count? He pressed the button.

[Autumn]

Back home now. I understand the #2 reason. The #1 reason is okay I guess, but right now it's strange that so many other people agree with you.

Anyhow, I don't have any strong feelings one way or another. The only strong(-ish) feeling I have is about Autumn and yesterday's vote. It seemed a strange mechanic to lock the votes and whether he initiated the lock or if it was just coincidence, I would've gone his way today.

I don't think that the votes were "locked" yesterday. I think there was no unvoting mechanic yesterday, so there was no way to change your votes afte they were made. I believe it is the case that everyone's original vote was counted. I don't think anything changed after I voted, must that CF didn't give us a vote count until around then.

If you think I'm a bad guy because CF gave a vote count after I voted, well I can probably come up with a better reason than that to vote for me.

[CrimsonFox]

It is commendable, Tester Zinto, how you can sit on your button without a vote when so much strife is around you.

*chirp*

[britrock88]

I don't have a feeling between RA and Jackal. Someone convince me?

[Zinto]

I can not vote I pressed the button!

[Passacaglia]

Myself, Zinto, Simbo Klice, Marc Vaughan, as best as I can tell.

Zinto pressed the button, so he can't vote, and SK and MV are not online now. All you, dude.

[GoldenEagle]

Didn't MV vote this morning?

[Passacaglia]

I don't have a feeling between RA and Jackal. Someone convince me?

Personally, I don't have a problem with a tie, if you don't want to decide.

[Zinto]

I don't think that the votes were "locked" yesterday. I think there was no unvoting mechanic yesterday, so there was no way to change your votes afte they were made. I believe it is the case that everyone's original vote was counted. I don't think anything changed after I voted, must that CF didn't give us a vote count until around then.

If you think I'm a bad guy because CF gave a vote count after I voted, well I can probably come up with a better reason than that to vote for me.


I agree. If you are a wolf and used a vote locking mechanic on day then it would be a poor play, and one that I assume you do not make as a wolf.

[bhlloy]

Unvote RA
Vote Jackal

I don't see the point in another tie TBH. Let's start finding some stuff out. Sorry Jackal.

[Passacaglia]

Didn't MV vote this morning?

He posted, but I don't see a vote, looking back quickly.

[Raiders Army]

I don't have a feeling between RA and Jackal. Someone convince me?

It seems weird that there was a rally around Jackal.

[Passacaglia]

Unvote RA
Vote Jackal

I don't see the point in another tie TBH. Let's start finding some stuff out. Sorry Jackal.

Kind of uncool, IMO.

[britrock88]

VOTE RAIDERS ARMY

I envy Zinto right now, but bhlloy has made it easier to participate.

[bhlloy]

Why? Why shouldn't I vote where I think it should go? There's enough people on to tie it back up if they want to

[Raiders Army]

I don't think that the votes were "locked" yesterday. I think there was no unvoting mechanic yesterday, so there was no way to change your votes afte they were made. I believe it is the case that everyone's original vote was counted. I don't think anything changed after I voted, must that CF didn't give us a vote count until around then.

If you think I'm a bad guy because CF gave a vote count after I voted, well I can probably come up with a better reason than that to vote for me.

Well, I said "strong(-ish)". :)

I would've voted your way in lieu of any better candidate. That's all. BTW, can you provide the better reason to vote for you. :lol:

[Passacaglia]

Wait, didn't bhlloy press the button, too? Or can the button only be pushed once? Sorry if this is distracting more than helping, two minutes to deadline...

[CrimsonFox]

mckerney 1 - JuLiO
Raiders Army 8 - JaCkAl JaG NaRcIzO RaGoNe McKeRnEy BaRkEeP PaSsAcAgLiA britrock
Jackal 9 - HoOpSgUy PaCkErFaN AuTuMn GoLdEnEaGlE TyKeTiMe KwHiT DaRtH RaIdErS BhLlOy

[Passacaglia]

Why? Why shouldn't I vote where I think it should go? There's enough people on to tie it back up if they want to

I just think that "let's not have a tie" is not the best motivation for a vote, when we don't know the tiebreak rules.

[Zinto]

I assume only I pushed the button.

[Passacaglia]

I just think that "let's not have a tie" is not the best motivation for a vote, when we don't know the tiebreak rules.

Also, I don't like that now I can't do something similar. :P

[bhlloy]

When we have more time Pass I'd love to hear why movement and actually making people make decisions is a bad thing in this game.

[britrock88]

Glad I could help you find the Metabolic Capslock Key Controller, CF.

[Raiders Army]

Also, I know I'm tempting fate by throwing Autumn's name out there when his vote is saving me right now.

*who's stupid or what*

[KWhit]

mckerney 1 - JuLiO
Raiders Army 8 - JaCkAl JaG NaRcIzO RaGoNe McKeRnEy BaRkEeP PaSsAcAgLiA britrock
Jackal 9 - HoOpSgUy PaCkErFaN AuTuMn GoLdEnEaGlE TyKeTiMe KwHiT DaRtH RaIdErS BhLlOy

With all of that silly capitalization, I don't feel so special now....

[KWhit]

I just think that "let's not have a tie" is not the best motivation for a vote, when we don't know the tiebreak rules.

Based on yesterday we have to assume that it means No Lynch.

[CrimsonFox]

The concept of Deadline has been successfully tested. Well done.

[Passacaglia]

When we have more time Pass I'd love to hear why movement and actually making people make decisions is a bad thing in this game.

That seems like putting words in my mouth. I think we had a pretty good spot before your vote, where britrock was going to make a key decision. I'm not sure how your vote was "making people make decisions"

[KWhit]

I can not vote I pressed the button!

Why did you wait until 6 minutes to deadline to tell us that? (Unless I missed it earlier which is quite possible)...

[JAG]

So I believe Raiders Army wins this vote then because he did not complete his unvote test for the day and he was only down by a vote at deadline.

[GoldenEagle]

Deadline?

[britrock88]

Portal knowledge explains that. One can't do much else while standing on the button...

[Zinto]

Why did you wait until 6 minutes to deadline to tell us that? (Unless I missed it earlier which is quite possible)...


You missed it earlier, Crimson informed us that if someone pressed the button they could not vote but he could have been lying so maybe I should have tried to vote.

[Passacaglia]

Based on yesterday we have to assume that it means No Lynch.

I don't agree with that -- part of me has been thinking that the Day 1 vote was designed for there to be no lynch.

[KWhit]

You missed it earlier, Crimson informed us that if someone pressed the button they could not vote but he could have been lying so maybe I should have tried to vote.

Ah. Okay, I stand corrected then. No worries.

[britrock88]

And, for that matter, who's to say that there will be a lynch tonight?