HornsManiac Jr. - help you "Dads"

[HornsManiac]

This morning while lying in bed trying to build up the urge to get in the shower and come to work an observation popped into my head. I looked over at my wife, who was sitting at her make-up desk trying to make her curling iron heat up faster, and asked her what had happened to this month's time of the month. It seems this month's time of the month is running late. My wife has a routine appointment with her OB/GYN next week already scheduled, so we are just going to let her doctor do the test then. I must say that becoming a Daddy was not one of my New Year's Resolutions, but she has wanted a baby for almost two years. I guess things could be worse, so I am sure I will adjust to it.

Okay, now I need some advice from you Dads who became Dads just a little sooner than you were expecting. Was the adjustment a tough one?

Thanks, HornsManiac

[superbama]

Not for me, but it was profound. The birth of my child was the single most incredible event in my life. Congrats!

[Fritz]

Horns, you said on another board that you were "single again."

In any case, congrats.

[Franklinnoble]

Eh... once you get over the financial shock that comes with having a kid, it's not so bad.

[Samdari]

I hereby resign my citizenship in society.

[Marmel]

Just reading this thread makes me feel dirty. I need to go take a shower.

[sachmo71]

Congrats, Horns!

[FBPro]

It was different, however I can think of few things that I have enjoyed more and have gotten more pleasure out of than being a "dad", I have 2 teenage boys BTW.


PS-Just moved to "Division 1" with this post :)

[Qwikshot]

God Help Us All

Actually...if you are serious about being a parent, it's very hard but very rewarding (I have a two year old, ask me again when she's a teenager).

You have to be willing to commit to it, dirty diapers, midnight feedings, tantrums at restaurants, clothes stores, parties, gatherings, during your favority shows, etc...but when my daughter says "I love you"...it's the best feeling in the world.

Good luck, you still have to endure the pregnacy part...

[HornsManiac]

Originally posted by Fritz
Horns, you said on another board that you were "single again."

In any case, congrats.

I am not sure what you are referring to unless it was way back when we had our very brief breakup last year.

Regardless, thanks for the well wishes. :)

HornsManiac

[Marmel]

Fritz, heh.

[Butter]

I've got some advice for you that works with ALL kids. ALL kids love being spanked. If you don't spank your kids, then you're really doing a disservice to yourself and them. If they cry while you're doing it, it doesn't mean they don't like it, because deep down they ALL do. It just means that you're a wussy and not a real dad who knows how to get across to his kids.

Anyway, take that tip if you want to be a real father. If not, then don't come crying to me when your kid is 15 and gets his nipples and tongue pierced.

[Marmel]

Fritz is in his 30's and just got his penis pierced. Of course, he loves spankings to this day.

[Franklinnoble]

While you're at it, spank your wife for me... she told me she likes it.

[SunDancer]

Originally posted by Qwikshot
God Help Us All



I second that.

[VPI97]

Sell it to the circus

[HornsManiac]

Originally posted by Qwikshot
Good luck, you still have to endure the pregnacy part...

I am serious about my wife's period being late. Maybe she is pregnant and maybe not. My gut says she is, so she probably is.

LMAO Actually, the pregnant wife part is what worries me the most. I once dated a woman who was pregnant (not my child) and from time to time I got caught up in the whole "I am pregnant.... so excuse everything I do" ordeal. *sigh* She used to wake me up in the middle of the night to go to the store and buy her Cookies N' Cream ice cream and Reese's Peanut Butter Cups. Geez, I hope she doesn't have midnight cravings like that.

HornsManiac

[Hammer755]

Wouldn't it be easier to try a home pregnancy test rather than wait a week to find out?

[HornsManiac Jr.]

Daddy, will you teach me to be cocky and funny?

[digamma]

Originally posted by HornsManiac
LMAO Actually, the pregnant wife part is what worries me the most. I once dated a woman who was pregnant (not my child) and from time to time I got caught up in the whole "I am pregnant.... so excuse everything I do" ordeal. *sigh* She used to wake me up in the middle of the night to go to the store and buy her Cookies N' Cream ice cream and Reese's Peanut Butter Cups. Geez, I hope she doesn't have midnight cravings like that.

HornsManiac

I think the ball is certainly teed up. Anyone...anyone?

[heybrad]

Originally posted by digamma
I think the ball is certainly teed up. Anyone...anyone?
It would be like shooting fish in a barrel.

[HornsManiac Jr.]

Daddy, I want to learn how to edit. :)

[Buzzbee]

Hey Brad!

[WSUCougar]

...must...not...post...here...

[JeeberD]

Originally posted by digamma
I think the ball is certainly teed up. Anyone...anyone?

I thought about it, but decided against it. It's obvious enough...

[Buzzbee]

Come on Coug, it's too hard to resist.

I'm just wondering, when little Miss Horns is old enough to date, will HM teach her how to be cocky and funny so that she can pick up girls?

[Ksyrup]

"Dude, you're having a kid!"

[Buzzbee]

Anyone have suggestions for names?

I say if it's a boy he should name him Kevin.

[heybrad]

Originally posted by Buzzbee
I say if it's a boy he should name him Kevin.
There has to a Dell City somewhere in the US. Then he would have Kevin from Dell.

[korme]

way to ruin an honest thread guys

[Qwikshot]

Originally posted by Shorty3281
way to ruin an honest thread guys

I think I answered him just fine.

I don't think it really matters...Mrs. Horns is pregnant then Horns is going to be a daddy whether he's ready or not to be.

I willingly went into a relationship with a woman who was pregnant when I met her...I was more than prepared for the responsibility of raising my daughter, the first few months were the hardest as I had to commute every weekend on a 2 hour drive to see both of them...then we got an apartment where I lived.

My friend got married, and then his wife got pregnant way before they expected...now it's high stress for them, they are both high strung people...they had to give up living on their own (private school teacher salaries in PA are pretty bad), they were knee deep in debt to begin with...so now that they with his in-laws...he was working two jobs...

It all comes down to being willing to sacrifice...babies do not care what time it is, babies don't care about your feelings, babies don't care who you are...they are in a state of constant flux, and a state of constant need...you will wear down.

My daughter is quite active, but I've learned that a few walks around the block, and about two hours at the playground, followed by a quick bath, leads to a state of quiet time...you have to bring toddlers onto a schedule, you have to be the boss.

Being a dad is an awesome task, I've realized now that I'm a parent, what hell I put my parents through (and I was considered to be a good kid)...

But all in all, you have to be selfless, and you have to expect that your kids may never realize what you've given up (until they are much much older).

[HornsManiac]

Amazing. Even I am disgusted by the sadism displayed here by many of our so-called upstanding and Christian posters. I have said some things here, flamed with some guys, and been at the center of A LOT of controversy, but I have NEVER said anything like this to anyone about their innocent wives and children...


Anyone else hoping this is a joke?

While you're at it, spank your wife for me... she told me she likes it.

Daddy, will you teach me to be cocky and funny?

I hereby resign my citizenship in society.

Just reading this thread makes me feel dirty. I need to go take a shower.

God Help Us All

Sell it to the circus

I'm just wondering, when little Miss Horns is old enough to date, will HM teach her how to be cocky and funny so that she can pick up girls?



Some of you are some sick motherfuckers is all I am going to say. Anyone who says some of the shit said here about a man's innocent wife and children is the lowest scum on earth. I would even respect the wife and children of Ted Bundy, because they had nothing to do with what he did. I hope I never read any of you guys talking about integrity, Christianity, or anything else that implies you guys are model citizens.

Hell, even Fritz and Hammer755 (two of my usual foes) refrained from making cruel comments. BTW, thanks guys for the decency.

SkyDog, you may just have to ban me for life over this outburst, but I don't give a shit. This is totally unacceptable and I hope you do something about it. :mad:

HornsManiac

[Anrhydeddu]

I hope you do something about it... just have to ban me for life

Sounds about right. :D

[Qwikshot]

Oh Chill Out...I at least answered your question.

[HornsManiac]

Originally posted by Qwikshot
Oh Chill Out...I at least answered your question.

Not the first time, you didn't. You went back and added some reasonable advice after your initial remark sat for a while.

HornsManiac

[Qwikshot]

I still think God Help Us All...is true...I could care less if you are offended by this remark...it was the first thought in my head when I read your post...

You bring a lot of shit on yourself...then you come pandering for advice, and you expect everyone to behave...that's moronic. Deal with the jabs, wipe the dirt of your face, and sift through on the stuff that actually answers your question...you should be used to this by now...

[Franklinnoble]

Did anyone catch the license number of the bug that just drove up Horns' ass?

[Qwikshot]

Originally posted by HornsManiac
Not the first time, you didn't. You went back and added some reasonable advice after your initial remark sat for a while.

HornsManiac

Your right, it took me a while to get over the fact that anti-Christ might be coming...:p

[Qwikshot]

Actually, I retract that...

I hope you and your wife have a healthy baby girl.

[couriers]

It's really sad that people can't either say something kind or refrain from saying something rude.

Congrats Horns and best of luck.

[korme]

half of the shit said wasn't needed, everyone always chiming in because it makes them feel better to rip on Horns.

We talk about how we don't flame, how we're a more civilized board... shit like this makes all of that seem very untrue.. I'm tired of every fucking thread Horns starts to have you guys make your jokes.. yeah it was fun 6 months ago.. but get over it.

[astralhaze]

To quote Sky Dog, "if you play with the piper you have to write the tune and record it on an 8 track"

At least that is how I remember it, but I may have been stoned at the time.

[heybrad]

Break it up... the fun police have arrived.

[couriers]

Originally posted by Franklinnoble
Did anyone catch the license number of the bug that just drove up Horns' ass?

No but the member names are rather clear.

[CamEdwards]

Horns, if you're going to get pissed off about some of the comments here, I can't wait until your kid is three and and you have to deal with temper tantrums every day, all day.

That being said, I wish you the best of luck. Your life should change dramatically. It has to stop being about you, and has to start being about what's best for your child. It can be a big challenge if you're not ready... so good luck.

BTW, despite what you may have heard, birthing classes are NOT a good place to pick up women. Trust me on this one. :)

[astralhaze]

Originally posted by Shorty3281
half of the shit said wasn't needed, everyone always chiming in because it makes them feel better to rip on Horns.

We talk about how we don't flame, how we're a more civilized board... shit like this makes all of that seem very untrue.. I'm tired of every fucking thread Horns starts to have you guys make your jokes.. yeah it was fun 6 months ago.. but get over it.

Except Horns does bring it on himself, and don't pretend he doesn't. Constant trolling and seeking of attention, not in this thread but countless others, are part and parcel of his act. None of us exist in a vacuum and past actions color our perception of people, you don't need me to tell you that. I'm not just talking about things that happened six months ago, or a year ago, but all the time. You are expecting too much to expect him to post things like he did in this thread or in his thread yesterday or two days ago, and then just ignore it and act like that never happened

[Buzzbee]

HM - I stand by my comments. You made your bed. Now lie in it. (No pun intended, honestly).

In regard to our "integrity, Christianity, or anything else that implies you guys are model citizens" don't EVEN begin to PRETEND that you know anything about our integrity, Christianity (or lack thereof for some) or our model citizenship. Remeber HM, we are just personas on an internet forum. Or have you forgotten that.

That's all I'm going to say. I don't get into flame wars unless it's Friday.

[TroyF]

Horns,

Why don't you take the advice you give the rest of us with women and use it on the board? Why would you care what was said? Why wouldn't you see the humor in some of the posts?

First question my friends ask when I start dating someone new is if she's blind or on drugs. Should I scream and demand that they renounce my friendship? It's a j-o-k-e, lighten up.

Beyond all of that, what on Earth did you expect the responses to be? Don't tell me you couldn't guess some of them before they were ever posted.

Congrats on the kid.

TroyF

[HornsManiac Jr.]

Daddy, can I borrow one of your Tommy Hilfigure shirts? I have a big date with Her Real Name tomorrow evening.

[heybrad]

Originally posted by HornsManiac
Okay, now I need some advice from you Dads who became Dads just a little sooner than you were expecting. Was the adjustment a tough one?
I have 2 kids myself and a number of my friends have dealt with this issue when they had kids, so I'll take a shot at a serious answer.

The adjustment is as easy or as hard as you make it. My wife and I obviously dont do all of the things we used to do. We may not be as spontaneous as we used to be (Vegas trips on whim, etc...), but we make plenty of time for ourselves and our children. I have friends who act as though their lives are over and they are chained to home once they had kids. Dont be afraid to take your baby out into the world. If you hung out with the guys and you still want to, take the kid with you (if possible). Dont be afraid to utilize baby sitters if you feel you need some time for yourself or your wife. I actually think its healthy to have your child learn to spend time with others early on. It gets them used to things like pre-school and kindergarden and being in new environments.

Hopefully that helps.

[korme]

Originally posted by astralhaze
Except Horns does bring it on himself, and don't pretend he doesn't. Constant trolling and seeking of attention, not in this thread but countless others, are part and parcel of his act. None of us exist in a vacuum and past actions color our perception of people, you don't need me to tell you that. I'm not just talking about things that happened six months ago, or a year ago, but all the time. You are expecting too much to expect him to post things like he did in this thread or in his thread yesterday or two days ago, and then just ignore it and act like that never happened

ok, right now find a recent thread HM has participated in where he has shown signs of 'constant trolling' or 'seeking of attention'. You probably won't, but if you did, I'd expect you to have a hard time. Nothing I have seen resembles either of these accusations, all I've seen is HIS OWN ADVICE, which, obviously, isn't for everyone, nor should it be. He may see things a little differently than everyone else, but so what? Who are you to say that it is WRONG?

He makes a thread about his potential baby, and the next thing I see is insulting remarks. It's stunning and embarassing....



Last bit taken out because of the above post.

[korme]

Originally posted by TroyF
Horns,

Why don't you take the advice you give the rest of us with women and use it on the board? Why would you care what was said? Why wouldn't you see the humor in some of the posts?

First question my friends ask when I start dating someone new is if she's blind or on drugs. Should I scream and demand that they renounce my friendship? It's a j-o-k-e, lighten up.

Beyond all of that, what on Earth did you expect the responses to be? Don't tell me you couldn't guess some of them before they were ever posted.

Congrats on the kid.

TroyF

Troy, dude, its funny like that if its your friends.. but the guys that make those comments in this thread don't like Horns, they're just being asses, not trying to be witty or hoping he'll take it light heartedly. They just want to be like everyone else.

[astralhaze]

No problem.

http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8335

I am sure you take Horns at his word when he says he was just trying to help or thought it was interesting or whatever, but that is just b.s. He knew full well what would be coming and you do too. This thread was obviously not trolling, but when he makes posts like the rant he had here, it's not exactly going to make people want to lighten up. On the contrary.

[astralhaze]

Originally posted by Shorty3281
Troy, dude, its funny like that if its your friends.. but the guys that make those comments in this thread don't like Horns, they're just being asses, not trying to be witty or hoping he'll take it light heartedly. They just want to be like everyone else.

Why do you, HM, and couriers think the people making these jokes "just want to fit in"? Maybe they just think it is funny, perhaps? That is the most obvious explanation.

[heybrad]

Shorty...

Taking out the attack on me before I could respond... Nice.

[korme]

Because I fail to see the humor in making fun of someone relentlessly?

Because of this though, people will probably just assume I have lost my humor.. shame.

[korme]

Originally posted by heybrad
Shorty...

Taking out the attack on me before I could respond... Nice.

Do you seriously not understand why I did? Why would I leave it up there when I saw that you had a nice post at the top..

I'm not going to be a fuckin' dick if you give nice advice like he asked for, man.. chill.

[couriers]

Like I have said before, it has become painfully obvious that some members are only interested in making themselves feel better by making other feel like crap. Horns has not asked for any of this bullshit by simply posting about the possibility of becoming a father. The disrespect is sickening. Past behavior should remain in the past at some point and a discussion about someone possibly having a child is as good a place to start as any.

Those that have attacked Horns in this thread for the sake of being funny have failed. They have also failed at making him look bad. Their only achievement was to have made themselves look like Asses.

This kind of backlash only goes to make the fanboys of this board look as stupid as the fanboys of the OOTP board that they always rag on.

[korme]

Done. No more fights... this is all I've been doing at FOF lately and it is all by defending HM and I'm just sick of it.. it's not me to be arguin' all the time.

Take your shots, cause I'm not looking. :p

[heybrad]

Look... I dont want to start some flamewar here. I just found it interesting that your dig at me is that I dont know you or where you're coming from, but you make comments like... "They just want to be like everyone else," as if you know everyone.

[couriers]

Originally posted by astralhaze
Why do you, HM, and couriers think the people making these jokes "just want to fit in"? Maybe they just think it is funny, perhaps? That is the most obvious explanation.

Because if they thought it was funny and that Horns would join in the fun then they wouldn't resort to the excuse that he has brought it on himself and therefore deserves to be treated disrespectfully. If I am wrong then so be it but I am only calling it like I see it.

EDIT: I'm following Shorty's advice: Take your shots, cause I'm not looking. :p

[heybrad]

Dola... I know there was a good reason I stayed out of HM threads.

[HornsManiac]

Originally posted by TroyF
Beyond all of that, what on Earth did you expect the responses to be? Don't tell me you couldn't guess some of them before they were ever posted.


The problem is not jabs at me. I do expect those. The problem is cruel insults directed at innocent members of my family that none of you have any reason to dislike.

Also, not intending to open old wounds but Shorty was probably the MOST upset with me out of all of you back when the "incident" went down. He is even starting to get past the disappointment, frustration, and hatred he felt towards me. The rest of you should as well.

Then, we have some respected posters who are not blind to the reality of what is happening here. Here is an example for you...

Originally posted by TheLionKing
I'm convinced you could come on here and save somebody's life and still get shit for it.


Now let me address the following stupid comment and explain why if you were Christians you would not be acting this way.

Originally posted by Buzzbee
In regard to our "integrity, Christianity, or anything else that implies you guys are model citizens" don't EVEN begin to PRETEND that you know anything about our integrity, Christianity (or lack thereof for some) or our model citizenship.


Matthew 18:21-22 - Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times? Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.

Matthew 6:14-15 - For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

Ephesians 4:32 - And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.

Mark 11:25 - And when ye stand praying, forgive, if ye have ought against any: that your Father also which is in heaven may forgive your trespasses.

Okay, God fearing Christians have I shown you enough reasons why yet?

HornsManaic

[korme]

Originally posted by heybrad
Look... I dont want to start some flamewar here. I just found it interesting that your dig at me is that I dont know you or where you're coming from, but you make comments like... "They just want to be like everyone else," as if you know everyone.

point taken brad

[astralhaze]

Horns, you do realize these things would stop if you didn't make a big humongous colossal deal out of it everytime it happens, right?

I have had arguments with people in this board and other boards all the time but I don't do flamewars. If someone starts to get personal I back of. If you really don't care what we think or your "reputation", why is is so hard for you to just let it go?

[HornsManiac]

Originally posted by astralhaze
Horns, you do realize these things would stop if you didn't make a big humongous colossal deal out of it everytime it happens, right?

I have had arguments with people in this board and other boards all the time but I don't do flamewars. If someone starts to get personal I back of. If you really don't care what we think or your "reputation", why is is so hard for you to just let it go?

No, it will not ever stop. I have tried everything including not even posting here for weeks at a time. However, there will always be the cruel sadists of this community who are after my blood. If this is TRULY a decent community made up of generally quality members of society then why aren't more of you rising up to stop the cruel sadism?

I think Eminem can relate and he sums it up quite nicely with these few lines...

Then quit bringin my flos, quit giving me my ammo
Can't you see why i'm so mean? if y'all leave me alone, this wouldn't be my M.O.

HornsManiac

[RonnieDobbs]

martyrdom=boring

[Franklinnoble]

Originally posted by HornsManiac
No, it will not ever stop. I have tried everything including not even posting here for weeks at a time. However, there will always be the cruel sadists of this community who are after my blood. If this is TRULY a decent community made up of generally quality members of society then why aren't more of you rising up to stop the cruel sadism?

I think Eminem can relate and he sums it up quite nicely with these few lines...



HornsManiac

Hmm... I had no idea how truly disturbed and insane you are until you posted:

1. That people on an internet message board were after your blood.
2. That more decent people should rise up to defend you.
3. Eminem and Garth Brooks lyrics in the same space.

[Buzzbee]

HM - I don't know your lifestyle and what your are used to. Therefore I can't tell you how much, if any your life will change. However, I'm guessing that it will.

My situation is a little different from yours, so my comments probably more appropriate for years down the road rather than in the next year or two. I went from single batchelor with no kids to married with two kids and a dog. Boom! Instant family. Going from batchelor to family man was a switch, and at times a difficult one. Anyway, on to the more relevant comments.

You can't reason with a two year old. No matter how much you try to explain to them why they can't sleep with bubble gum over their eyes as a mask, they won't listen. A related corrlary - kids don't understand logic. They would rather argue for thirty minutes that they don't have to use the bathroom rather than go into the bathroom, stand for two minutes, and flush the toilet.

Be prepared for the (insert wee hour of the morning here) "I can't sleep". Different parents have different ideas and methods for how to handle this. However, remember my comment above regarding reason and logic when determining your course of action.

If you don't already, start working out. When babies become toddlers, they can run faster than Jessie Owens, disappear quicker than David Copperfield, and hide better than Osama.

Don't get your feelings hurt if at some point your kid wants Mommy rather than Daddy. Just realize that at the first sight of a bug, they will come running to YOU.

You WILL have to make sacrifices. Either for your kid or for your wife. It may be eating cold food because you had to cut up your kid's steak. It may be sacrificing sleep. It may be sacrificing time alone or watching Texas football or even sacrificing a cookie or the last piece of cake.

Be very aware of helping out as much as you can with the baby. Some fathers do this naturally. Others have to work at it. And many simply don't do it at all. This, in my opinion, is the greatest contributor to strain and breakups in marriages with newborns.

Lastly, consider your thoughts, attitudes, and beliefs in how to raise your child. Contemplate what you want to teach your child and how you want your child to grow up. What do you want your child to believe in? How do you want your child to act? Should I spank or not spank? Will you have a "kids will be kids" attitude, or will you be a strict disciplinarian?

I wish you the best of luck. I hope that the pregnancy goes off without a hitch and you and your wife have a healthy baby. I also hope that this child stregthens your marriage.

[TroyF]

Originally posted by Shorty3281
Troy, dude, its funny like that if its your friends.. but the guys that make those comments in this thread don't like Horns, they're just being asses, not trying to be witty or hoping he'll take it light heartedly. They just want to be like everyone else.

Shorty,

This has been going on long enough that ANYONE, including Horns can see it a million miles in advance. I find it hard to cry for Horns because of a couple of insults thrown around.

I really hate to break the news to you, while I didn't post my jokes, after initially reading the post I came up with about 20 of them. Some were posted by others here and I laughed at them.

Awhile back, I remember asking an individual to stop cussing in his posts, not because it offended me but because I read the forum at work and had a computer screen which could be viewed by many people.

That request has never been granted (the initial response to the request was 200X more of an attack than anything in this thread), in fact the individual to whom that request was made is still doing it. I learned it was my choice to either stay and deal with it or get the hell out. Horns needs to make the same decision.


Horns,

Please. Your immediate family? Most of the jokes are talking about an unborn kid. There isn't a person in this forum who wishes harm on your wife or her unborn child. These are being soley directed at you for reasons which others have discussed at length. If you can't see that, there truly is no hope for you.

TroyF

[Qwikshot]

Then quit bringin my flos, quit giving me my ammo
Can't you see why i'm so mean? if y'all leave me alone, this wouldn't be my ammo

I think some of your critics could say the same thing...and couriers...fuck off man, go back to hassling John Galt..

[Buzzbee]

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Originally posted by Buzzbee
In regard to our "integrity, Christianity, or anything else that implies you guys are model citizens" don't EVEN begin to PRETEND that you know anything about our integrity, Christianity (or lack thereof for some) or our model citizenship.

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Matthew 18:21-22 - Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times? Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.

Matthew 6:14-15 - For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

Ephesians 4:32 - And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.

Mark 11:25 - And when ye stand praying, forgive, if ye have ought against any: that your Father also which is in heaven may forgive your trespasses.

Okay, God fearing Christians have I shown you enough reasons why yet?

HornsManaic

Forgive me?

[Senator]

Also, not intending to open old wounds but Shorty was probably the MOST upset with me out of all of you back when the "incident" went down.

What incident are you talking about? Since the Anniversary is here.

This is meant to clear HM. I was as hard on him as anyone, but after reading this, I felt obligated to tell him I was sorry and I was wrong.

INCIDENT (http://www.further-down.com/Horns2.html)

[korme]

Originally posted by Qwikshot
I think some of your critics could say the same thing...and couriers...fuck off man, go back to hassling John Galt..

Classy!

[HornsManiac]

This is the gist of my existence here and although controversial at times it is TRULY me and I should NOT have to change in order to be an active member of this community...

Folks call me a maverick, guess I ain't too diplomatic. I have just never been the kind to go along just avoidin' confrontation for the sake of conformation and I'll admit I tend to sing a different song, but sometimes you just can't be afraid to wear a different hat. If Columbus had complied this old world might still be flat.

It is well known and understood that I don't think like a lot of you, but what needs to be understood is I am just being myself. Because I am different doesn't make me bad and doesn't mean I deserve relentless harassment for being the "maverick" of this community.

There are things posted in this thread that are a thousand times more harsh than anything I have ever posted here - with the exception of a few times where I lost my cool and blew up due to the harsh criticism becoming unbearable. I did not start those "fights" but I did finish them. This thread and the responses to it prove beyond a doubt that TheLionKing's comment was right on the money. I could donate one of my kidneys to save one of your lives and some bastards here would still INSIST I am a worthless piece of scum and attack me accordingly for it. That, folks, IS THE COLD HARD TRUTH.

HornsManiac

[astralhaze]

If it is goddamned hard on you, why do you keep posting here?

[sabotai]

HM,

A couple things.

1) Start sleeping for only 4 or 5 hours a night. In fact, what you need to do is go to sleep around 9. Wake up around midnight to an alarm clock that is LOUD. Wake up again and 2, 4 and possibly one more time in between. Get used to it now.

2) Kiss luxaries goodbye. No more gifts for the spouce. It all goes to diapers, clothes, formula, doctor visits (for every little thing that comes up), etc. It'll cost you plenty.

3) No more talking to the spouce for any significant amount of time. In fact, forget about doing anything for a significant amount of time (so learn to become a minuteman in the sack, or sex will be a thing of the past). The reason is because once you start up something, that's when the baby decides it needs attention.

4) Get used to the smell and sight of poop in a diaper. Those little shit machines produce all kinds of colors and smells, and you have to be prepared for them all.

[korme]

Originally posted by astralhaze
If it is goddamned hard on you, why do you keep posting here?

Because negativity isn't going to get the best of him.

[astralhaze]

Originally posted by Shorty3281
Because negativity isn't going to get the best of him.

If that is the case, and he realizes nothing is going to change and accepts this, why does he keep bitching about it?

[Qwikshot]

Originally posted by Shorty3281
Classy!

I think so:cool:

[Marmel]

I ripped on you and don't feel bad about it.

I am not a God-fearing (or even believing person), and don't claim to be a good citizen or anything like that. I do it because I don't take kindly to lying, cheating, deceiving people. I do it because I take offense to trickery by people using multiple nicknames. I do it because I don't think you bring any worth to this forum, and as long as you are here, I might as well make the best of it by entertaining myself. I don't care for your condescending, know it all, I don't give a fuck, I'm better than you, I'm innocent attitude.

I also don't feel I need to defend myself by posting this, but if you wanted to know why, there it is.

[Malificent]

If HM doesn't care about people on the internet, why is he asking for advice from them?

I met my wife on the internet, we've been married 5 years (together for 8) and have a 3 month old daughter. I pretty much stopped caring what HM says except for entertainment purposes when he said that people on the internet were meaningless.

[HornsManiac]

Originally posted by Marmel
I ripped on you and don't feel bad about it.

I am not a God-fearing (or even believing person), and don't claim to be a good citizen or anything like that. I do it because I don't take kindly to lying, cheating, deceiving people. I do it because I take offense to trickery by people using multiple nicknames. I do it because I don't think you bring any worth to this forum, and as long as you are here, I might as well make the best of it by entertaining myself. I don't care for your condescending, know it all, I don't give a fuck, I'm better than you, I'm innocent attitude.

I also don't feel I need to defend myself by posting this, but if you wanted to know why, there it is.

Well, Marmel, your post pretty much sums up your feelings, doesn't it? You strongly dislike me. Now tell us something we didn't already know.

You left out something very important. You not liking me does NOT give you the right to constantly cause me grief. I have just as much right to post here as you do. If I don't like someone that I see everyday at the grocery store I do not have the right to harass him constantly, because he has as much right to be there shopping as I do. If I did it I would certainly end up in jail.

Marmel, your post doesn't justify anything and in fact makes you look worse than you already did and that is not easy to do. Oh, and by the way.... I may be here longer than you, because I am not leaving anytime soon. :)

HornsManiac

[CamEdwards]

Horns,

You might go a long way towards changing peoples opinion if you did something like... oh, I don't know.. engage the people who have offered you sincere advice instead of once again bashing and rehashing this tired old debate.

Turn the other cheek, remember?

[HornsManiac]

Originally posted by CamEdwards
Horns,

You might go a long way towards changing peoples opinion if you did something like... oh, I don't know.. engage the people who have offered you sincere advice instead of once again bashing and rehashing this tired old debate.

Turn the other cheek, remember?

Trust me, Cam, the people here who have offered sincere advice will be thanked for it. I am smart enough to realize that. :)

This "tired old debate" needs to be rehashed until the crap stops. No, I am not going to turn the other cheek any longer. I have tried that in the past too and that did not help. When I appeared to not notice the sarcasm and criticism they just continued to intensify it until they did finally get a reaction out of me. I can assure you it did not fade away when I chose to ignore it.

HornsManiac

[The Afoci]

Originally posted by HornsManiac
You left out something very important. You not liking me does NOT give you the right to constantly cause me grief.

Not trying to start a fight here, but could you clarify your stance on this point. I thought you said you are different from most on this board because you don't care. If you don't care, how can someone on it cause you grief? Just a question.

[CamEdwards]

exactly. You go from "I don't care what you say, you're just on the internet" to "quit bothering me, I've had enough".

You're not going to get it to stop, Horns. You're just not. You've got an abrasive personality, you tend to egg things on rather than let them go, and you're an easy target because of your past history and the fact that you get ticked off so easily.

I'm not trying to pick on you (although I reserve my right to do that in the future), I'm just letting you know that if you're fighting back hoping that the jokes at your expense will stop, then you're wasting your time.

My advice is to just slap that ignore feature on anybody who gives you grief. It's hard to get riled up when you don't pay any attention to what's being said.

[astralhaze]

But then how would he realize he is getting attention?

[couriers]

Originally posted by Qwikshot
Then quit bringin my flos, quit giving me my ammo
Can't you see why i'm so mean? if y'all leave me alone, this wouldn't be my ammo

I think some of your critics could say the same thing...and couriers...fuck off man, go back to hassling John Galt..

Wow. That was amazing. Is that really the best you have got because I just can't get over how bad you just made me feel? Should I bend over now or wait a bit longer?

[astralhaze]

Well, my theory still stands. Both of the people who claimed they were not going to post anymore in this thread have now posted again in this thread.

[couriers]

Who said anything about not posting in this thread any more?

[astralhaze]

Originally posted by couriers
EDIT: I'm following Shorty's advice: Take your shots, cause I'm not looking. :p

I guess you didn't say you weren't going to post, I take that back. You did imply that you were done with the thread. I'm not saying you are a jerk or anything for doing it, it's just a definate trend that I have noticed.

[HornsManiac]

Originally posted by CamEdwards
exactly. You go from "I don't care what you say, you're just on the internet" to "quit bothering me, I've had enough".


Now you are trying to put words in my mouth. I never said it like that. The gist of my internet stance is that none of us REALLY know anyone else with the exception of some actual real world friends that post here. Then, I went on to add that I don't look at anyone on any message board the same way I do a true friend for the reason I just stated. I never said I don't mind being ridiculed on a constant basis.

I'm just letting you know that if you're fighting back hoping that the jokes at your expense will stop, then you're wasting your time.

My advice is to just slap that ignore feature on anybody who gives you grief. It's hard to get riled up when you don't pay any attention to what's being said.

Well, let me just say that as long I am treated like a caged animal I am going to act like one. I will NEVER and I repeat NEVER just stand by and be punked by anyone. So, if you don't want to see the aggressive HornsManiac don't push me that far.

Hmm. You offer great advice about the ignore feature, so why haven't you done that yourself when I started a thread or posted about things that you did not agree with? That would not be as fun as being a sadistic and heartless bastard, would it?

HornsManiac

[thesloppy]

http://www.pg-ca.com/russian/prod/images/tampax.jpg

[couriers]

Originally posted by astralhaze
I guess you didn't say you weren't going to post, I take that back. You did imply that you were done with the thread. I'm not saying you are a jerk or anything for doing it, it's just a definate trend that I have noticed.

I implied no such thing. I said go ahead and take your shots and that they weren't going to bother me. When I say that I am done with a thread then I mean it. Look at the QoTM thread as proof. The only trend that I have noticed as of late is people twisting words around to mean what they want them to. Not saying that you specifically are always doing that since you were kind enough to admit the initial mistake.

I'm not trying to start some stupid flame war with you but I had to respond since it seemed that you were calling me a liar, which is obviously something I take seriously. See the same QoTM thread mentioned above for proof of that.

[astralhaze]

Originally posted by couriers
I implied no such thing. I said go ahead and take your shots and that they weren't going to bother me. When I say that I am done with a thread then I mean it. Look at the QoTM thread as proof. The only trend that I have noticed as of late is people twisting words around to mean what they want them to. Not saying that you specifically are always doing that since you were kind enough to admit the initial mistake.

I'm not trying to start some stupid flame war with you but I had to respond since it seemed that you were calling me a liar, which is obviously something I take seriously. See the same QoTM thread mentioned above for proof of that.

No problem man. I just missunderstood you comments. I take them back. As I said, I don't do flame wars.

[Qwikshot]

Originally posted by couriers
Wow. That was amazing. Is that really the best you have got because I just can't get over how bad you just made me feel? Should I bend over now or wait a bit longer?


ZZzzz Zzzzz Zzzzz

[CamEdwards]

Originally posted by HornsManiac


Hmm. You offer great advice about the ignore feature, so why haven't you done that yourself when I started a thread or posted about things that you did not agree with? That would not be as fun as being a sadistic and heartless bastard, would it?

HornsManiac

True dat.

Originally posted by HornsManiac


Well, let me just say that as long I am treated like a caged animal I am going to act like one. I will NEVER and I repeat NEVER just stand by and be punked by anyone. So, if you don't want to see the aggressive HornsManiac don't push me that far.

You're not being treated like a caged animal. You're being treated like a hopeless dork. And please, go ahead and tell me to fuck off in all capital letters. I love to see the aggressive HornsManiac. :)

[Buzzbee]

Ok, here is an example of one of the reasons why I feel that HM gets hammered so much around here. Here is a quote from Cam:

exactly. You go from "I don't care what you say, you're just on the internet" to "quit bothering me, I've had enough".

You're not going to get it to stop, Horns. You're just not. You've got an abrasive personality, you tend to egg things on rather than let them go, and you're an easy target because of your past history and the fact that you get ticked off so easily.

I'm not trying to pick on you (although I reserve my right to do that in the future), I'm just letting you know that if you're fighting back hoping that the jokes at your expense will stop, then you're wasting your time.

My advice is to just slap that ignore feature on anybody who gives you grief. It's hard to get riled up when you don't pay any attention to what's being said.

And here is HM's response:

Originally posted by HornsManiac
Now you are trying to put words in my mouth. I never said it like that. The gist of my internet stance is that none of us REALLY know anyone else with the exception of some actual real world friends that post here. Then, I went on to add that I don't look at anyone on any message board the same way I do a true friend for the reason I just stated. I never said I don't mind being ridiculed on a constant basis.


Well, let me just say that as long I am treated like a caged animal I am going to act like one. I will NEVER and I repeat NEVER just stand by and be punked by anyone. So, if you don't want to see the aggressive HornsManiac don't push me that far.

Hmm. You offer great advice about the ignore feature, so why haven't you done that yourself when I started a thread or posted about things that you did not agree with? That would not be as fun as being a sadistic and heartless bastard, would it?

HornsManiac

Obviously Cam's response wasn't "Pro Horns". However, I didn't see anything in his post that would warrant being called a "sadistic and heartless bastard."

[Qwikshot]

Horns is a caged animal...someone alert PETA...

[couriers]

Originally posted by astralhaze
No problem man. I just missunderstood you comments. I take them back. As I said, I don't do flame wars.

Except on Fridays, while I like to wait until Saturdays myself. :)

[couriers]

Originally posted by Qwikshot
ZZzzz Zzzzz Zzzzz

Exactly my point.

[Qwikshot]

Originally posted by couriers
Except on Fridays, while I like to wait until Saturdays myself. :)

Nor do I, I was just proving the point that you would come back to this thread...couriers I could care less what your position is, but I didn't judge you when the fit hit the shan for the QoTM, I don't like being pegged as a Horns baiter...I could care less about a lot of the things Horns does, but I couldn't resist with this whole post...I don't think God Help Us was exactly an abrasive or confrontational post...one could think of Michael Jackson's children and think the same thing...it's not so much the kid...it's the idea that there will be a little Horns running around...I wish him all the best in family matters, but of course, I was taken out of context, so I decided to be a little abrasive...I don't hold much respect for Horns, but I think that the feeling is mutual.

[astralhaze]

Originally posted by Qwikshot
Horns is a caged animal...someone alert PETA...

That gives a whole new meaning to the term "unleash the fuckin fury" doesn't it.

[Qwikshot]

Originally posted by astralhaze
That gives a whole new meaning to the term "unleash the fuckin fury" doesn't it.

Perhaps we should call pest control instead?!?

[Qwikshot]

Originally posted by couriers
Exactly my point.

Get down with your bad self couriers...you da man, guess you've been reading up on Horns recommended literature.

[Ksyrup]

To get somewhat back on topic...

HM, do you have relatives near you? If not, be prepared to give up a lot of your life to your child. We have no one near us (although my wife's folks may be moving to within 2-3 hours of us, thankfully), and we've only had a handful of nights to ourselves since our daughter was born. We don't really like the idea of babysitters, so we use them sparingly, but it's been hard. Since August 1999, I've seen exactly 2 movies at the theater (well, 4, if you count The Piglet Movie and Jungle Book II).

If you do have relatives around, especially grand parents, abuse the shit out of their babysitting services. I look forward to being able to drive a couple of hours on a Friday night, dropping the kid off, and heading to the beach or flying somewhere for a quick weekend away with the wife.

[couriers]

Qwikshot,

Your feelings for HM really doesn't bother me. What bothers me is when people say shit about others without the thought of remaining silent instead of rude. I never once categorized you in that group yet you felt it was necessary to say, "and couriers...fuck off man, go back to hassling John Galt.." as if I had. Your remark towards me doesn't hurt in the least but that doesn’t change the fact that it was uncalled for. I had done nothing to you up to that point and didn't deserve to be brought into your personal beef with Horns.

EDIT: Take my thoughts for what you may consider them to be worth but please don't take them as flame bait because I have no intention of getting into something stupid with you or anyone else. At least not until Saturday. :)

[Qwikshot]

Originally posted by couriers
Qwikshot,

Your feelings for HM really doesn't bother me. What bothers me is when people say shit about others without the thought of remaining silent instead of rude. I never once categorized you in that group yet you felt it was necessary to say, "and couriers...fuck off man, go back to hassling John Galt.." as if I had. Your remark towards me doesn't hurt in the least but that doesn’t change the fact that it was uncalled for. I had done nothing to you up to that point and didn't deserve to be brought into your personal beef with Horns.

EDIT: Take my thoughts for what you may consider them to be worth but please don't take them as flame bait because I have no intention of getting into something stupid with you or anyone else. At least not until Saturday. :)

Fair enough, I apologize to you, I felt you had corralled me into that category. Yeah, yeah, flame bait...whatever...anyway, I apologize and I will move on. Saturday I believe I'll be watching the FLyers, so you can have free reign of the board.;)

[CamEdwards]

Originally posted by Ksyrup
To get somewhat back on topic...

HM, do you have relatives near you? If not, be prepared to give up a lot of your life to your child. We have no one near us (although my wife's folks may be moving to within 2-3 hours of us, thankfully), and we've only had a handful of nights to ourselves since our daughter was born. We don't really like the idea of babysitters, so we use them sparingly, but it's been hard. Since August 1999, I've seen exactly 2 movies at the theater (well, 4, if you count The Piglet Movie and Jungle Book II).

If you do have relatives around, especially grand parents, abuse the shit out of their babysitting services. I look forward to being able to drive a couple of hours on a Friday night, dropping the kid off, and heading to the beach or flying somewhere for a quick weekend away with the wife.

Excellent point. My nearest family is 3 hours away. My wife's nearest family is 30+ hours away. It sucks, not only for getting out (my 16 year old stepdaughter babysits), but in case of emergency it can be a bitch. I don't even want to tell you what I had to go through to get the kids to school and daycare when my wife had to fly back to NJ for a funeral two weeks ago.

[astralhaze]

Wow, everyone is like apologizing and stuff. It's a very special episode of FOFC. If only Alan Thicke were here.

[vtbub]

Your life no longer belongs to you.

[Qwikshot]

Originally posted by astralhaze
Wow, everyone is like apologizing and stuff. It's a very special episode of FOFC. If only Alan Thicke were here.

On a special Growing Pains...

[The Afoci]

I like the kinder, gentlier HM. No longer does he say he doesn't care, now he feels pain like the rest of us...Group hugs make everything better...

And if it is true, congrats on the kid and good luck.

[panerd]

Originally posted by couriers
Like I have said before, it has become painfully obvious that some members are only interested in making themselves feel better by making other feel like crap. Horns has not asked for any of this bullshit by simply posting about the possibility of becoming a father. The disrespect is sickening. Past behavior should remain in the past at some point and a discussion about someone possibly having a child is as good a place to start as any.

Those that have attacked Horns in this thread for the sake of being funny have failed. They have also failed at making him look bad. Their only achievement was to have made themselves look like Asses.

This kind of backlash only goes to make the fanboys of this board look as stupid as the fanboys of the OOTP board that they always rag on.

Go hang with your little friend.

[panerd]

Originally posted by HornsManiac
No, it will not ever stop. I have tried everything including not even posting here for weeks at a time. However, there will always be the cruel sadists of this community who are after my blood. If this is TRULY a decent community made up of generally quality members of society then why aren't more of you rising up to stop the cruel sadism?

I think Eminem can relate and he sums it up quite nicely with these few lines...



HornsManiac

I just don't get why you keep coming back here and getting upset when people don't like you. And if your response is "Who am I?" I am nobody. I enjoy the I'm with stupid contests, reading the FOF threads, reading some of the funnier posts, and occiasionaly getting into a war debate. I don't pretend that I am an active, popular member of the community. I started coming here about the same time as you and Devanyfan. Unfortunatly your trolling was quite obvious from the beginning and we lost a better member of the community because of it. But do you really think that 50% of the board cares when you post? And then you get pissed off when they show that they don't. Every post of yours turns into you telling 10 or 15 people to fuck off, so I will ask you again why do you do this to yourself?

[couriers]

Gee, I wonder who the real ass is in this thread?

[HornsManiac]

Originally posted by Qwikshot
I don't hold much respect for Horns, but I think that the feeling is mutual.

Actually, I have not had any reason to truly dislike you, so it isn't mutual. I guess you have pretty much tried to make it mutual today though. :(

HornsManiac

[Qwikshot]

Originally posted by HornsManiac
Actually, I have not had any reason to truly dislike you, so it isn't mutual. I guess you have pretty much tried to make it mutual today though. :(

HornsManiac

Actually I don't think I've been harsh at all...I think I was meaner to couriers...but I do feel that some of the jabs you get are warranted, you will always be remembered for certain actions, and you always are here...don't expect the dust to ever settle, and you can't go from one extreme to the other...

Regardless of whatever jabs I've given to you, I do hope that your wife has a healthy pregnacy, and you have a healthy child...if it turns out that your wife isn't pregnant, it should definately make you sit and think over whether or not you want to make sacrifices yet. Either way, best of luck.

[HornsManiac]

Originally posted by panerd
I just don't get why you keep coming back here and getting upset when people don't like you.

You just don't get it, do you? Sadly, you really don't. This is not about demanding people "like" me, but about people respecting me and my right to post here. I couldn't care less who likes and dislikes me, but I do care about being constantly abused. There are quite a few poeple here that I strongly dislike, but I don't attack them every time they post something.

HornsManiac

[HornsManiac]

dola....

Also, I stay here because I know for a fact that I have far more supporters than you think I have. Look at the numbers of people who are starting to defend me. Plus, I have many more private messages from people who actually do respect me, but those people don't want to risk their own pristine reputations here by publicly speaking out on my behalf. Maybe if they could do so without fear of retribution they would. Regardless, they support me and I know it and that is what matters the most.

HornsManiac

[Ksyrup]

Originally posted by astralhaze
Wow, everyone is like apologizing and stuff. It's a very special episode of FOFC. If only Alan Thicke were here.

Speaking of Alan Thicke, he got pegged by a stray hockey puck while practicing for a charity hockey game and lost 4 teeth.

I wish I had pictures.

[RonnieDobbs]

Originally posted by HornsManiac
You just don't get it, do you? Sadly, you really don't. This is not about demanding people "like" me, but about people respecting me and my right to post here. I couldn't care less who likes and dislikes me, but I do care about being constantly abused. There are quite a few poeple here that I strongly dislike, but I don't attack them every time they post something.

HornsManiac

On t'other hand, you'll have to respect people's rights to not respect you, and to post in such a fashion. It's never going to change.

Horns, I have nothing against you. I think you're entertaining. I think you're a troll. I think you post what you do (many times) to get a rise from people. You're not an idiot. You know whats coming. That's why I never get why you go and pull the victim card. It just doesn't fit you well. I honestly believe I have a subjective viewpoint here, and all I've ever seen is you throw some bait out there, one of them bites, and BLAMMO a flame war erupts.

Either deal with it and stop bitching, deal with and keep trying to paint yourself a martyr, or find another bulletin board. (And don't try to say I'm telling you to leave, that's not it at all. These are the three options you have.) I'd pick the first, but definitely don't keep playing the "I'm an innocent victim" game. Like the flame wars it instigates, it gets old fast.

And congrats on the kid coming. I hope he/she grows up to be might cocky and funny. :D

[Marmel]

Originally posted by HornsManiac
people respecting me


You need to earn respect bub, it is not just given to you (unless you are REALLY cock and funny).

[wbonnell]

Horns- just curious, but is this abrasive personality (not that there's anything wrong with that :) ) created stricly for online exploration? Personally I've been with this community for nearly 4 years, and there are only a select few I don't care for (won't read their posts).

Is your real life personality rife with controversy as well?

[B & B]

I HEART Marmel

[HornsManiac]

Originally posted by wbonnell
Horns- just curious, but is this abrasive personality (not that there's anything wrong with that :) ) created stricly for online exploration? Personally I've been with this community for nearly 4 years, and there are only a select few I don't care for (won't read their posts).

Is your real life personality rife with controversy as well?

Actually, my real life is completely opposite of HornsManiac's. I am among the most likeable men you would ever meet and have absolutely zero enemies in my life right now. With that said, HornsManiac has been pushed to madness and that is the reason he is there now. :)

HornsManiac

[astralhaze]

Rickey didn't feel like he need to steal second, but Rickey could have if he wanted to. Remember, Rickey is the greatest of all time.

[Franklinnoble]

Originally posted by astralhaze
Rickey didn't feel like he need to steal second, but Rickey could have if he wanted to. Remember, Rickey is the greatest of all time.

Bwahahahahaha!

Alright... it wasn't really that funny, but, then again, I'm not usually up this late. (Note to Horns - this is to be expected during your impending fatherhood)

[Alf]

HM, did you stop dating girls over the internet recently then ?

[scooper]

Originally posted by HornsManiac
Actually, my real life is completely opposite of HornsManiac's. I am among the most likeable men you would ever meet and have absolutely zero enemies in my life right now. With that said, HornsManiac has been pushed to madness and that is the reason he is there now. :)

HornsManiac

edit: The picture disappeared. It was a picture of Butters from South Park as Professor Chaos.

[scooper]

Dola.

In all seriousness, good luck, Horns, if in fact she is pregnant. I have no advice as we are working on our first now as well. I can see it being a huge lifestyle adjustment, though. My wife and I have discussed some of the changes we will have to make from little things like watching our language to no more spontaneous uh playing around anytime anywhere in the house. One thing we've decided is that there is no way to be completely prepared. We'll just learn it as we go as all first time parents do.

[Maple Leafs]

Horns, Horns, Horns...

You seem to want the fallout from last year's "little incident" to just go away. But here's the problem: you never dealt with what happened in any way that would make it go away. From day one, you handled it in about the worst way possible: the denials, the conspiracy theories, the attempted cover-up, right through to the bizarre alter-egos you created to defend yourself. It was honestly one of the most bizarre online meltdowns I've ever seen anyone have, and it will probably live in infamy on this forum forever.

I'd offer you the advice to come clean about the whole thing, accept responsibility, apologize and move on, but I know it would be wasted. So my only other advice would be to get used to it. You'll always be a punchline around here.

P.S. Congratulations on the new addition the family. Really.

[cuervo72]

Originally posted by Ksyrup
To get somewhat back on topic...

HM, do you have relatives near you? If not, be prepared to give up a lot of your life to your child. We have no one near us (although my wife's folks may be moving to within 2-3 hours of us, thankfully), and we've only had a handful of nights to ourselves since our daughter was born. We don't really like the idea of babysitters, so we use them sparingly, but it's been hard. Since August 1999, I've seen exactly 2 movies at the theater (well, 4, if you count The Piglet Movie and Jungle Book II).

If you do have relatives around, especially grand parents, abuse the shit out of their babysitting services. I look forward to being able to drive a couple of hours on a Friday night, dropping the kid off, and heading to the beach or flying somewhere for a quick weekend away with the wife.

Straying on topic again....

Ugh, this is the truth. I don't think we've used a babysitter, except when my mom has been in town or we've visited my wife's parents in Florida. I can't even remember the last movie we went to...Phantom Menace maybe? We don't even watch them at home, there's no way you can pay attention seriously to anything for more than about 15 minutes. And by time they get to bed you're too damned tired to do much of anything, or have a million things you still need to do.

[revrew]

Horns, I didn't even see this thread until it was in its third page. I didn't read the posts that must have so offended you, and I haven't read 1/5 of the posts in this thread. But I'm guessing from what I did read that you haven't gotten what you originally hoped for.

Daddying is the most life-changing experience you may ever have and the most important role in society. You will mess it up, but you may also find forgiveness and grace beyond anything you've ever known. I'm actively involved in messing up my kids for life right now, but am finding each day is another chance to become the kind of man I always hoped I'd be.

I discovered I was a father unexpectedly when I was 18. Since then, my wife and I have had 7 more children (though most of those were expected :) ). If you have sincere questions, please PM me.

"Any Dick can be a father, it takes a special man to be a daddy."

[Craptacular]

Originally posted by revrew

"Any Dick can be a father, it takes a special man to be a daddy."

My first read of that said "Andy Dick can be a father..."

I fear for our planet if that man has kids.

[Qwikshot]

Originally posted by Craptacular
My first read of that said "Andy Dick can be a father..."

I fear for our planet if that man has kids.

Andy Dick has kids by two women...

[Maple Leafs]

Originally posted by Craptacular
I fear for our planet if that man has kids. Nice going. Now Andy Dick is going to show up here and ask the moderators to please make people leave him alone.

[RealDeal]

I say, as a preventative measure, we go on and ban Spawn of HM from the FOFC board right now, to save ourselves a lot of future trouble.

[MrIllini]

has the mailman taken a paternity test yet?

[Willy Wonka]

Another piece of sludge in the ol' Gene Pool!!!


j/k - congrats.


although you might take MrIllini's question into account

[Frozenrope]

Originally posted by MrIllini
has the mailman taken a paternity test yet?


Is that a blood test, or do you have to pee in a cup?


Kids....rough....but fun.......lots of hugs.....just no sleep....

[MrIllini]

Originally posted by Frozenrope
Is that a blood test, or do you have to pee in a cup?


it's a visual test

if the kid comes out and he/she's cute, it's the mailman's

[Daimyo]

First of all, congrats and good luck on the kid. I can't even imagine how my life would change if my wife and I had a child right now.

Second of all, about the larger issue. Why do we have to stop making fun of Horns? No one ever complains when we make fun of Dave Dial, STYX, or any of the other infamous people from fofc's past. You think Horns gets shit on... just see what would happen if one of those guys would post here overtly.

Like it or not, what Horns did is as bad or worse than any of those guys and will forever be a part of our lore. Its actually amazing to me that he hasn't been banned yet... he has certainly "earned" it.

I don't think that Horns is destined to always be mocked, but he's going to have to adjust his attitude for anything to change. As Marmel mentioned above, you have to earn respect and right now Horns is the negative big time. Until he understands the hole he needs to dig out of for a lot of people to respect him, he's never going to get the respect he wants. Of course I'm sure he'll say he doesn't need/want the respect of people on the internet, but if that's true I guess he shouldn't care when we mock him either.

[Willy Wonka]

Originally posted by Daimyo
First of all, congrats and good luck on the kid. I can't even imagine how my life would change if my wife and I had a child right now.

Second of all, about the larger issue. Why do we have to stop making fun of Horns? No one ever complains when we make fun of Dave Dial, STYX, or any of the other infamous people from fofc's past. You think Horns gets shit on... just see what would happen if one of those guys would post here overtly.

Like it or not, what Horns did is as bad or worse than any of those guys and will forever be a part of our lore. Its actually amazing to me that he hasn't been banned yet... he has certainly "earned" it.

I don't think that Horns is destined to always be mocked, but he's going to have to adjust his attitude for anything to change. As Marmel mentioned above, you have to earn respect and right now Horns is the negative big time. Until he understands the hole he needs to dig out of for a lot of people to respect him, he's never going to get the respect he wants. Of course I'm sure he'll say he doesn't need/want the respect of people on the internet, but if that's true I guess he shouldn't care when we mock him either.

http://www.thefobl.com/forums/images/smilies/iamwithstupid.gif

[Marmel]

Very well said Daimyo. It is only a matter of time before we develope a term related to Horns (see: Dola-post). :D

[MizzouRah]

No advice can prepare you for fatherhood.

Nike said it best, "Just do it".



Todd

[Balldog]

Look at the topic:
HornsManiac Jr. - help you "Dads"

He puts dads in quotation marks as to be mocking anyone who is on here who actually is a father of a child.

Anyways good luck if your wife is pregnant, maybe you'll have a daughter and some guy will treat her how you recommend men treat women.

[Franklinnoble]

This thread ought to be locked.

[Anrhydeddu]

Anyways good luck if your wife is pregnant, maybe you'll have a daughter and some guy will treat her how you recommend men treat women.

ohhhh, that was cruel

[Franklinnoble]

Cruel, but appropriate. My only complaint is that I didn't think of it. ;)

[Balldog]

what isn't that how women want to be treated?

[mrskippy]

Crikey ... this looks like a mrskippy thread. The Christian stuff, the Scripture ...

and I didn't post a bit of it. Yikes!!!

But, I just want to say ... to bash HM because he's having a child (or might be) is wrong.

I think I'd respond the same way he has, because regardless of whether you like me or not a child is precious.

SkyDog ... if you read this ... I hope you reconsider.


John 8:7
But when they persisted in asking Him, He straightened up, and said to them, "He who is without sin among you, let him be the first to throw a stone at her."

Since none are without sin here, than nobody should be throwing stones.

[Subby]

I'll just assume this thread is locked, because it would be really really counter-productive to drag this pig back to the top...

edit

D'oh!

[Franklinnoble]

Ass U Me

Why is your title "SuperGay," by the way?

[Marmel]

Subby is like a Superhero, but gay. Not that there is anything wrong with that.

[scooper]

Originally posted by Franklinnoble


Why is your title "SuperGay," by the way?

Because he's not just gay....

[Subby]

That's supposed to read 'SupperGay'

[Franklinnoble]

Originally posted by Subby
That's supposed to read 'SupperGay'

Hmm... yeah, that clears it up for me. :rolleyes: