FOFC Super Team Draft - Picks Thread

[larrymcg421]

Rules reposted for reference:

1. You will draft a team of heroes in the following main categories:

Leader
Muscle
Scrapper
Magic
Science/Gadgets
Investigator
Firepower
Protector
Arch Nemesis
Love Interest (will not be a fighting member of the team)
Sidekick
Base/Hideout

2. You must also fit them into these categories:

Literary
Film
TV
Comic Book
Video Game
Animated
Female
Mythology/Folklore
21st Century
20th Century
19th Century
Pre-19th Century


3. For each draft pick, you must specify the creator of the character. The creator can only be used once per player and once per main category.

4. For the date categories (21st, 20th, 19th, Pre-19th), we are using the time that the character was originally created.

5. For Literary, Film, TV, etc. categories, you can draft a character that did not initially debut in that format if you feel they are more notable for a different format.

6. You can draft real people. In this case, the creator should be designated as "Real" and this is subject to the same limitations as above.

7. You can draft characters created by unknown people. In this case, the creator should be designated as "Unknown" and is subject to same limitations as above.

8. Please bold your selections and use the following format - "1.1 Your Mom, Muscle, Pre-18th Century (Real)"

9. I will be lenient on enforcing time limits as long as we are making good progress each day. If you are not going to be available during normal daytime hours, please try to submit lists.

10. At the end of the draft, I will post a voting thread including everyone's picks. FOFC members will vote on the best Super Team.

[larrymcg421]

Round 1

1.1 Batman --Science/Gadgets, Comic Book (Bob Kane--artist, Bill Kane--writer)
1.2 Superman, Protector, 20th Century (Jerry Siegel)
1.3 Jesus of Nazareth, Leader, Pre 19th century (Real)
1.4 Spider-Man, Protector, 20th Century (Stan Lee)
1.5 Merlin Magic, Pre- 19th Century Creator(Geoffry of Monmouth)
1.6 The One Above All, Leader, Comic Book (Writer - Steve Englehart, Artist - Gene Colan)
1.7 James Bond, Arch Nemesis, 10th Century (Ian Fleming)
1.8 Son Goku, Scrapper, Animated (Akira Toriyama/Bandai)

Round 2

2.1 Sherlock Holmes, Investigator, 19th century (Sir Arthur Conan Doyle)
2.2 Satan, Leader, Pre-19th Century (John Milton)
2.3 Silver Surfer, Sidekick, 20th Century (Jack Kirby)
2.4 Robin Hood, Protector, Film (Michael Curtiz, Errol Flynn)
2.5 The Man With No Name, Scrapper, Film (Sergio Leone)
2.6 Indiana Jones, Investigator, Film (Lucas)
2.7 Lara Croft, Investigator, Female (Toby Gard/Eidos)
2.8 Gandalf-- Magic, Literary (JRR Tolkien)

Round 3

3.1 Achilles-- Muscle, Pre-19th Century (Homer)
3.2 Chewbacca/Sidekick/Film (Lucas)
3.3 Harry Potter, Magic, Literary (Rowlins)
3.4 Tintin, Investigator, Comic Book (Hergé)
3.5 Wonder Woman ,Muscle,Female Creator(William Marston)
3.6 Hercules, Muscle, Mythology/Folkore (Unknown)
3.7 The Death Star, Base/Hideout, Film (George Lucas)
3.8 The Doctor, Science/Gadgets, Television (Sydney Newman, C. E. Webber
and Donald Wilson/BBC)

Round 4

4.1 The Hulk, Muscle, 20th Century (Stan Lee and Jack Kirby)
4.2 Al Capone, Firepower, 19th Century (Real)
4.3 Leonardo da Vinci, Science/Gadgets, Pre-19th Century (Real)
4.4 The TARDIS , Base/hideout, TV (Sydney Newman, C.E. Webber, Donald Wilson)
4.5 Count Dracula, Arch-Nemesis, 19th Century (Bram Stoker)
4.6 Ellen Ripley, firepower, female (Dan O'Bannon and Ronald Shusett)
4.7 Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Scrapper, TV (Joss Whedon)
4.8 Dr. Manhattan-- Firepower, 20th Century (Alan Moore writer, Dave Gibbons artist, colorist John Higgins)

Round 5

5.1 Capt. James Tiberius Kirk, Leader, TV (Gene Roddenberry)
5.2 Guinevere, Love Interest, Pre-19th Century (Chretien de Troyes)
5.3 Rocky Balboa, Scrapper, 20th century (sly Stallone)
5.4 Helen of Troy, Love Interest, Pre-19th Century (Homer)
5.5 Zeus Leader, Mythology/Folklore (Unknown)
5.6 Tyler Durden, Scrapper, Literary (Chuck Palahniuk)
5.7 Raistlin Majere, Magic, Literary (Margaret Weiss and Tracy Hickman)
5.8 Kratos, Arch Nemesis, 21st Century (Sony Computer Entertainment)

Round 6
6.1 Supergirl, Sidekick, Female (Otto Binder and Al Pastino)
6.2 Ben Linus, Protector, TV (Jeffrey Lieber, J. J. Abrams, Damon Lindelof)
6.3 Brock Samson, Protector, 21st Century (Jackson Publick and Doc Hammer)
6.4 Professor James Moriarty Arch nemesis, 19th century (Sir Arthur Conan Doyle)
6.5 He-Man, Muscle, Animation (Mattel)
6.6 Beowulf, Protector, Mythology/Folklore, unknown
6.7 Wyatt Earp - firepower, 19th century (real)
6.8 Mount Olympus-- Base/Hideout, Mythology/Folklore (Unknown)

Round 7

7.1 Han Solo-- Scrapper, Film (George Lucas)
7.2 Batcave, Base/Hideout, ComicBook
7.3. Dr. Watson, Sidekick, 19th century (Doyle)
7.4 Samus Aran, Science/Gadgets, Female (Makato Kano)
7.5 Walter Bishop Science/Gadgets, 21st century (JJ Abrams,Alex Kurtzman, Roberto Orci)
7.6 Charlene 'Charlie' McGee, Firepower, Female (Stephen King)
7.7 Daedelus, Science/Gadgets, Mythology/Folklore (unknown)
7.8 Paul Muad'Dib Atreides, Leader, Literary (Frank Herbert)

Round 8

8.1 Revan, Magic, Video Game (Casey Hudson/LucasArts)
8.2 Bowser, Muscle, Video Game (Shigeru Miyamoto)
8.3 Genie of the Lamp, Magic, Film (Eric Goldberg and Robin Williams)
8.4 Master Chief Firepower, Video Game (Marcus Lehto, Rob McLees, Shi Kai Wang)
8.5 Aragorn, Son of Arathorn, Leader, Literary (Tolkein)
8.6 Lois Lane, Love Interest, Comic (Jerry Siegel)
8.7 Gordon Freeman, Science/Gadgets, Video Game (Gabe Newell/Valve)
8.8 Selene-- Protector, Female (Kevin Grevioux, Len Wiseman, Danny McBride, Kate Beckinsale)

Round 9

9.1 J. Edgar Hoover-- Investigator, 19th Century (Real)
9.2 Daenerys Targaryen, Magic, Literary (GRRM)
9.3 Solid Snake Science / Gadgets, Video Game (Hideo Kojima)
9.4 USS Enterprise, Base/Hideout, TV (Roddenberry)
9.5 Mary Jane Watson , Love interest, Comic Book (Stan Lee, John Romita, Steve Ditko)
9.6 Jessica Rabbit, Love Interest, Animated (Gary K. Wolf)
9.7 Harley Quinn, Sidekick, Comic Book (Paul Dini, Bruce Timm)
9.8 Apollo, Firepower, Mythology (unknown)

Round 10

10.1 Green Lantern (Hal Jordan), Protector, Comic Book (John Broome and Gil Kane)
10.2 Dexter, Investigator, 21st Century (James Manos, Jr.)
10.3 Moby Dick, Arch Nemesis, 19th Century (Herman Melville)
10.4 Popeye, Scrapper, Animated (E.C. Segar, Max Fleischer)
10.5 Heka, Magic, Mythology/Folklore (unknown)
10.6 The Master, Arch Nemesis, TV, (Sydney Newman, C. E. Webber, Donald Wilson)
10.7 Rick Grimes, Leader, 21st Century (Robert Kirkman)
10.8 Donkey Kong, Arch Nemesis, Video Game (Shigeru Miyamoto/Nintendo/Sega)

Round 11

11.1 Bumblebee, Sidekick, Animated (Hasbro)
11.2 Shrek, Muscle, Animated (William Steig)
11.3 Mr. Incredible, muscle, 21st century
11.4 Mega Man, Firepower, Video Game (Capcom)
11.5 Friday Sidekick, Literary (Daniel Defoe)
11.6 High Hrothgar, Base/Hideout, Video Game (Bethesda Game Studios)
11.7 Wile E. Coyote, Scrapper, Animation (Chuck Jones)
11.8 N.S.E.A. Protector, Base/Hideout, Film (David Howard, Robert Gordon and Dean Parisot)

Round 12

12.1 Cleopatra, Love Interest, Pre-19th Century (Real)

[larrymcg421]

Leader

1.3 Jesus of Nazareth, Leader, Pre 19th century (Real)
1.6 The One Above All, Leader, Comic Book (Writer - Steve Englehart, Artist - Gene Colan)
2.2 Satan, Leader, Pre-19th Century (John Milton)
5.1 Capt. James Tiberius Kirk, Leader, TV (Gene Roddenberry)
5.5 Zeus Leader, Mythology/Folklore (Unknown)
7.8 Paul Muad'Dib Atreides, Leader, Literary (Frank Herbert)
8.5 Aragorn, Son of Arathorn, Leader, Literary (Tolkein)
10.7 Rick Grimes, Leader, 21st Century (Robert Kirkman)


Muscle

3.1 Achilles-- Muscle, Pre-19th Century (Homer)
3.5 Wonder Woman ,Muscle,Female Creator(William Marston)
3.6 Hercules, Muscle, Mythology/Folkore (Unknown)
4.1 The Hulk, Muscle, 20th Century (Stan Lee and Jack Kirby)
6.5 He-Man, Muscle, Animation (Mattel)
8.2 Bowser, Muscle, Video Game (Shigeru Miyamoto)
11.2 Shrek, Muscle, Animated (William Steig)
11.3 Mr. Incredible, muscle, 21st century

Scrapper

1.8 Son Goku, Scrapper, Animated (Akira Toriyama/Bandai)
2.5 The Man With No Name, Scrapper, Film (Sergio Leone)
4.7 Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Scrapper, TV (Joss Whedon)
5.3 Rocky Balboa, Scrapper, 20th century (sly Stallone)
5.6 Tyler Durden, Scrapper, Literary (Chuck Palahniuk)
7.1 Han Solo-- Scrapper, Film (George Lucas)
10.4 Popeye, Scrapper, Animated (E.C. Segar, Max Fleischer)
11.7 Wile E. Coyote, Scrapper, Animation (Chuck Jones)

Magic

1.5 Merlin Magic, Pre- 19th Century Creator(Geoffry of Monmouth)
2.8 Gandalf-- Magic, Literary (JRR Tolkien)
3.3 Harry Potter, Magic, Literary (Rowling)
5.7 Raistlin Majere, Magic, Literary (Margaret Weiss and Tracy Hickman)
8.1 Revan, Magic, Video Game (Casey Hudson/LucasArts)
8.3 Genie of the Lamp, Magic, Film (Eric Goldberg and Robin Williams)
9.2 Daenerys Targaryen, Magic, Literary (GRRM)
10.5 Heka, Magic, Mythology/Folklore (unknown)

Science/Gadgets

1.1 Batman --Science/Gadgets, Comic Book (Bob Kane--artist, Bill Kane--writer)
3.8 The Doctor, Science/Gadgets, Television (Sydney Newman, C. E. Webber
and Donald Wilson/BBC)
4.3 Leonardo da Vinci, Science/Gadgets, Pre-19th Century (Real)
7.4 Samus Aran, Science/Gadgets, Female (Makato Kano)
7.5 Walter Bishop Science/Gadgets, 21st century (JJ Abrams,Alex Kurtzman, Roberto Orci)
7.7 Daedelus, Science/Gadgets, Mythology/Folklore (unknown)
8.7 Gordon Freeman, Science/Gadgets, Video Game (Gabe Newell/Valve)
9.3 Solid Snake Science / Gadgets, Video Game (Hideo Kojima)


Investigator

2.1 Sherlock Holmes, Investigator, 19th century (Sir Arthur Conan Doyle)
2.6 Indiana Jones, Investigator, Film (Lucas)
2.7 Lara Croft, Investigator, Female (Toby Gard/Eidos)
3.4 Tintin, Investigator, Comic Book (Hergé)
9.1 J. Edgar Hoover-- Investigator, 19th Century (Real)
10.2 Dexter, Investigator, 21st Century (James Manos, Jr.)
12.3 Columbo, Investigator, TV (Richard Levinson and William Link)
12.4 Hercule Poirot , Investigator, 20th century (Agatha Christie)

Firepower

4.2 Al Capone, Firepower, 19th Century (Real)
4.6 Ellen Ripley, firepower, female (Dan O'Bannon and Ronald Shusett)
4.8 Dr. Manhattan-- Firepower, 20th Century (Alan Moore writer, Dave Gibbons artist, colorist John Higgins)
6.7 Wyatt Earp - firepower, 19th century (real)
7.6 Charlene 'Charlie' McGee, Firepower, Female (Stephen King)
8.4 Master Chief Firepower, Video Game (Marcus Lehto, Rob McLees, Shi Kai Wang)
9.8 Apollo, Firepower, Mythology (unknown)
11.4 Mega Man, Firepower, Video Game (Capcom)

Protector

1.2 Superman, Protector, 20th Century (Jerry Siegel)
1.4 Spider-Man, Protector, 20th Century (Stan Lee)
2.4 Robin Hood, Protector, Film (Michael Curtiz, Errol Flynn)
6.2 Ben Linus, Protector, TV (Jeffrey Lieber, J. J. Abrams, Damon Lindelof)
6.3 Brock Samson, Protector, 21st Century (Jackson Publick and Doc Hammer)
6.6 Beowulf, Protector, Mythology/Folklore, unknown
8.8 Selene-- Protector, Female (Kevin Grevioux, Len Wiseman, Danny McBride, Kate Beckinsale)
10.1 Green Lantern (Hal Jordan), Protector, Comic Book (John Broome and Gil Kane)

Arch Nemesis

1.7 James Bond, Arch Nemesis, 10th Century (Ian Fleming)
4.5 Count Dracula, Arch-Nemesis, 19th Century (Bram Stoker)
5.8 Kratos, Arch Nemesis, 21st Century (Sony Computer Entertainment)
6.4 Professor James Moriarty Arch nemesis, 19th century (Sir Arthur Conan Doyle)
10.3 Moby Dick, Arch Nemesis, 19th Century (Herman Melville)
10.6 The Master, Arch Nemesis, TV, (Sydney Newman, C. E. Webber, Donald Wilson)
10.8 Donkey Kong, Arch Nemesis, Video Game (Shigeru Miyamoto/Nintendo/Sega)
12.7 Pharoah, Arch-Nemisis/Mythology (Moses, Book of Exodus)

Love Interest (will not be a fighting member of the team)

5.2 Guinevere, Love Interest, Pre-19th Century (Chretien de Troyes)
5.4 Helen of Troy, Love Interest, Pre-19th Century (Homer)
8.6 Lois Lane, Love Interest, Comic (Jerry Siegel)
9.5 Mary Jane Watson , Love interest, Comic Book (Stan Lee, John Romita, Steve Ditko)
9.6 Jessica Rabbit, Love Interest, Animated (Gary K. Wolf)
12.1 Cleopatra, Love Interest, Pre-19th Century (Real)
12.2 Poison Ivy, Love Interest, Female (Paul Dini, Bruce Timm)
12.8 Sookie Stackhouse-- Love Interest, 21st Century (Charmaine Harris)

Sidekick

2.3 Silver Surfer, Sidekick, 20th Century (Jack Kirby)
3.2 Chewbacca/Sidekick/Film (Lucas)
6.1 Supergirl, Sidekick, Female (Otto Binder and Al Pastino)
7.3 Dr. Watson, Sidekick, 19th century (Doyle)
9.7 Harley Quinn, Sidekick, Comic Book (Paul Dini, Bruce Timm)
11.1 Bumblebee, Sidekick, Animated (Hasbro)
11.5 Friday Sidekick, Literary (Daniel Defoe)
12.5 Alyx Vance, Sidekick, 21st Century (Valve)

Base/Hideout

3.7 The Death Star, Base/Hideout, Film (George Lucas)
4.4 The TARDIS , Base/hideout, TV (Sydney Newman, C.E. Webber, Donald Wilson)
6.8 Mount Olympus-- Base/Hideout, Mythology/Folklore (Unknown)
7.2 Batcave, Base/Hideout, ComicBook
9.4 USS Enterprise, Base/Hideout, TV (Roddenberry)
11.6 High Hrothgar, Base/Hideout, Video Game (Bethesda Game Studios)
11.8 N.S.E.A. Protector, Base/Hideout, Film (David Howard, Robert Gordon and Dean Parisot)
12.6 Castle Greyskull, Base/hideout, Animated

[larrymcg421]

Here is your draft order:

1. Chief Rum
2. hoopsguy
3. Danny
4. Grover
5. ntndeacon
6. TheJackal
7. wade moore
8. oykib

As usual we are doing a snake draft round, so oykib will start off the 2nd round.

[larrymcg421]

Chief Rum

1.1 Batman --Science/Gadgets, Comic Book (Bob Kane--artist, Bill Kane--writer)
2.8 Gandalf-- Magic, Literary (JRR Tolkien)
3.1 Achilles-- Muscle, Pre-19th Century (Homer)
4.8 Dr. Manhattan-- Firepower, 20th Century (Alan Moore writer, Dave Gibbons artist, colorist John Higgins)
5.1 Capt. James Tiberius Kirk, Leader, TV (Gene Roddenberry)
6.8 Mount Olympus-- Base/Hideout, Mythology/Folklore (Unknown)
7.1 Han Solo-- Scrapper, Film (George Lucas)
8.8 Selene-- Protector, Female (Kevin Grevioux, Len Wiseman, Danny McBride, Kate Beckinsale)
9.1 J. Edgar Hoover-- Investigator, 19th Century (Real)
10.8 Donkey Kong, Arch Nemesis, Video Game (Shigeru Miyamoto/Nintendo/Sega)
11.1 Bumblebee, Sidekick, Animated (Hasbro)
12.8 Sookie Stackhouse-- Love Interest, 21st Century (Charmaine Harris)

Hoopsguy's Heroic Horde

1.2 Superman, Protector, 20th Century (Jerry Siegel)
2.7 Lara Croft, Investigator, Female (Toby Gard/Eidos)
3.2 Chewbacca/Sidekick/Film (Lucas)
4.7 Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Scrapper, TV (Joss Whedon)
5.2 Guinevere, Love Interest, Pre-19th Century (Chretien de Troyes)
6.7 Wyatt Earp - firepower, 19th century (real)
7.2 Batcave, Base/Hideout, ComicBook
8.7 Gordon Freeman, Science/Gadgets, Video Game (Gabe Newell/Valve)
9.2 Daenerys Targaryen, Magic, Literary (GRRM)
10.7 Rick Grimes, Leader, 21st Century (Robert Kirkman)
11.2 Shrek, Muscle, Animated (William Steig)
12.7 - Pharoah, Arch-Nemisis/Mythology (Moses, Book of Exodus)

Danny's Dashing Defenders

1.3 Jesus of Nazareth, Leader, Pre 19th century (Real)
2.6 Indiana Jones, Investigator, Film (Lucas)
3.3 Harry Potter, Magic, Literary (Rowlins)
4.6 Ellen Ripley, firepower, female (Dan O'Bannon and Ronald Shusett)
5.3 Rocky Balboa, Scrapper, 20th century (sly Stallone)
6.6 Beowulf, Protector, Mythology/Folklore, unknown
7.3. Dr. Watson, Sidekick, 19th century (Doyle)
8.6 Lois Lane, Love Interest, Comic (Jerry Siegel)
9.3 Solid Snake Science / Gadgets, Video Game (Hideo Kojima)
10.6 The Master, Arch Nemesis, TV, (Sydney Newman, C. E. Webber, Donald Wilson)
11.3 Mr. Incredble, muscle, 21st century
12.6 Castle Greyskull, Base/hideout, Animated


Grover's Merry Muppets

1.4 Spider-Man, Protector, 20th Century (Stan Lee)
2.5 The Man With No Name, Scrapper, Film (Sergio Leone)
3.4 Tintin, Investigator, Comic Book (Hergé)
4.5 Count Dracula, Arch-Nemesis, 19th Century (Bram Stoker)
5.4 Helen of Troy, Love Interest, Pre-19th Century (Homer)
6.5 He-Man, Muscle, Animation (Mattel)
7.4 Samus Aran, Science/Gadgets, Female (Makato Kano)
8.5 Aragorn, Son of Arathorn, Leader, Literary (Tolkein)
9.4 USS Enterprise, Base/Hideout, TV (Roddenberry)
10.5 Heka, Magic, Mythology/Folklore (unknown)
11.4 Mega Man, Firepower, Video Game (Capcom)
12.5 Alyx Vance, Sidekick, 21st Century (Valve)

Deacon's Helpful Band

1.5 Merlin Magic, Pre- 19th Century Creator(Geoffry of Monmouth)
2.4 Robin Hood, Protector, Film (Michael Curtiz, Errol Flynn)
3.5 Wonder Woman ,Muscle,Female Creator(William Marston)
4.4 The TARDIS , Base/hideout, TV (Sydney Newman, C.E. Webber, Donald Wilson)
5.5 Zeus Leader, Mythology/Folklore (Unknown)
6.4 Professor James Moriarty Arch nemesis, 19th century (Sir Arthur Conan Doyle)
7.5 Walter Bishop Science/Gadgets, 21st century (JJ Abrams,Alex Kurtzman, Roberto Orci)
8.4 Master Chief Firepower, Video Game (Marcus Lehto, Rob McLees, Shi Kai Wang)
9.5 Mary Jane Watson , Love interest, Comic Book (Stan Lee, John Romita, Steve Ditko)
10.4 Popeye, Scrapper, Animated (E.C. Segar, Max Fleischer)
11.5 Friday Sidekick, Literary (Daniel Defoe)
12.4 Hercule Poirot , Investigator, 20th century (Agatha Christie)

Jackal's Jousting Jabberwocks

1.6 The One Above All, Leader, Comic Book (Writer - Steve Englehart, Artist - Gene Colan)
2.3 Silver Surfer, Sidekick, 20th Century (Jack Kirby)
3.6 Hercules, Muscle, Mythology/Folkore (Unknown)
4.3 Leonardo da Vinci, Science/Gadgets, Pre-19th Century (Real)
5.6 Tyler Durden, Scrapper, Literary (Chuck Palahniuk)
6.3 Brock Samson, Protector, 21st Century (Jackson Publick and Doc Hammer)
7.6 Charlene 'Charlie' McGee, Firepower, Female (Stephen King)
8.3 Genie of the Lamp, Magic, Film (Eric Goldberg and Robin Williams)
9.6 Jessica Rabbit, Love Interest, Animated (Gary K. Wolf)
10.3 Moby Dick, Arch Nemesis, 19th Century (Herman Melville)
11.6 High Hrothgar, Base/Hideout, Video Game (Bethesda Game Studios)
12.3 Columbo, Investigator, TV (Richard Levinson and William Link)

wade moore

1.7 James Bond, Arch Nemesis, 10th Century (Ian Fleming)
2.2 Satan, Leader, Pre-19th Century (John Milton)
3.7 The Death Star, Base/Hideout, Film (George Lucas)
4.2 Al Capone, Firepower, 19th Century (Real)
5.7 Raistlin Majere, Magic, Literary (Margaret Weiss and Tracy Hickman)
6.2 Ben Linus, Protector, TV (Jeffrey Lieber, J. J. Abrams, Damon Lindelof)
7.7 Daedelus, Science/Gadgets, Mythology/Folklore (unknown)
8.2 Bowser, Muscle, Video Game (Shigeru Miyamoto)
9.7 Harley Quinn, Sidekick, Comic Book (Paul Dini, Bruce Timm)
10.2 Dexter, Investigator, 21st Century (James Manos, Jr.)
11.7 Wile E. Coyote, Scrapper, Animation (Chuck Jones)
12.2 Poison Ivy, Love Interest, Female (Paul Dini, Bruce Timm)

oykib

1.8 Son Goku, Scrapper, Animated (Akira Toriyama/Bandai)
2.1 Sherlock Holmes, Investigator, 19th century (Sir Arthur Conan Doyle)
3.8 The Doctor, Science/Gadgets, Television (Sydney Newman, C. E. Webber
and Donald Wilson/BBC)
4.1 The Hulk, Muscle, 20th Century (Stan Lee and Jack Kirby)
5.8 Kratos, Arch Nemesis, 21st Century (Sony Computer Entertainment)
6.1 Supergirl, Sidekick, Female (Otto Binder and Al Pastino)
7.8 Paul Muad'Dib Atreides, Leader, Literary (Frank Herbert)
8.1 Revan, Magic, Video Game (Casey Hudson/LucasArts)
9.8 Apollo, Firepower, Mythology (unknown)
10.1 Green Lantern (Hal Jordan), Protector, Comic Book (John Broome and Gil Kane)
11.8 N.S.E.A. Protector, Base/Hideout, Film (David Howard, Robert Gordon and Dean Parisot)
12.1 Cleopatra, Love Interest, Pre-19th Century (Real)

[wade moore]

*Note: I made a small change. I excised one of the century categories as I felt they'd be too limiting and replaced it with an Animated category.

You're killing me smalls ;).

[Danny]

*Note: I made a small change. I excised one of the century categories as I felt they'd be too limiting and replaced it with an Animated category.

No biggie i havent actually done any research yet. Im going to jeffrey winger it

[wade moore]

Oh, and the dice are killing us placing a West Coaster at 1.1 ;). No harm no foul, but bad dice rolls for sure.

[Grover]

No biggie i havent actually done any research yet. Im going to jeffrey winger it

Winging is the way I'm going

[Chief Rum]

Okay, coming up with my pick. Sorry for being on the West Coast, guys! lol

[Chief Rum]

1.1 Batman --Science/Gadgets, Comic Book (Bob Kane--artist, Bill Kane--writer)

[Chief Rum]

I edited to add the dashed line in my selection above to separate the character name/choice from the other info.

[larrymcg421]

From his list, hoopsguy selects:

1.2 - Superman, Protector, 20th Century (Jerry Siegel)

[Chief Rum]

It's amazing how difficult a choice this was. Not only am I not all that well-versed in the comic book superhero world (from which I figure a number of characters will be used in this draft), but just the wealth of characters and information was immense and very hard to navigate.

I had many considerations. Do I go with the most powerful character I can think of, thinking of team versus team conflict? Do I go with the most popular character I can think of, because in the end this draft will come down to a popularity contest? Do I go with the character who is the best choice in a scarce category, like drafting a C or a SS higher in a baseball draft? What category do I select if my choice applies to many?

I ended up going with the popularity option. Batman is generally considered the 2nd most popular comic book character of all time, from what I have found anyway. Combine with the coming movie in the very popular series by Nolan, I thought he was the best fit, going popular.

Batman is not even technically a superhero in that he has no innate superpowers. He is instead just a guy with a lot of money and intelligence and drive. Because of his knowledge of science and his heavy use of gadgetry, I am hopeful I am not stretching him too much by placing him in the Science/Gadgets section. I felt that would be a more difficult category to fill.

I could have put Batman in a number of different source categories, and went with Comic Book, for the reason that that is his original source and because I felt that for me it is a pretty limiting category, as I don't really read comic books. I realize for those that do, the Comic Book category will be a wealthy source material.

I don't know which between the artist and writer is most responsible for creating Batman so I have included both. As I have heard of neither (no doubt they are both well accomplished in the comic book realm, but of that I am ignorant), I wasn't too concerned about having them unavailable to me going forward.

[Chief Rum]

Good choice by hoops. Superman was the superhero generally placed at the top of the most popular lists, and only one I found consistently ahead of Batman.

[wade moore]

I think this was a pretty obvious 1/2 punch. Curious where it goes from here.

[Danny]

If would could get PM's when we are up that would be cool!

[Danny]

Wow, I feel like picking 3rd in the Odom / Durant year

[The Jackal]

I think you mean Oden. Odom is actually a useful player.

[The Jackal]

Have new hires at work today so there will be a couple of periods about an hour long where I can't check, but other than that I'll be here.

[Danny]

I have my pick, just deciding which category to place him / her under

[Danny]

1.3 Jesus of Nazareth, Leader, Pre 19th century (Real)

[The Jackal]

For clarification, can we only use a real person once, or unlimited?

[The Jackal]

Eh, I think I get it from the rules, so now that Danny has used a real person in leader, we can't use anymore real leaders.

[Grover]

Eh, I think I get it from the rules, so now that Danny has used a real person in leader, we can't use anymore real leaders.

I think we can still use one, just not fitting those categories as Jesus would be a Creator.

[The Jackal]

Hmm, I'm still not super clear on it then. Sorry, work is distracting my brain.

[wade moore]

What he's saying is that now a real person can't be used by Danny at all and not by the rest of us in the leader category.

I think he slipped that second part in, I don't remember that being there before.

[The Jackal]

That makes sense to me.

[Danny]

What he's saying is that now a real person can't be used by Danny at all and not by the rest of us in the leader category.

I think he slipped that second part in, I don't remember that being there before.

Yes I did, I didnt read the rule that said to post creator

[Grover]

1.4 Spider-Man, Protector, 20th Century (Stan Lee)

[Danny]

Though obviously not everyone agrees on his creator, I'm going with real

[Danny]

Such inside the box thinking with picks 1, 2 and 4!

[TRO]

Batman was the clear 1. He beats Superman head to head, so it is a no contest really.

[Chief Rum]

Such inside the box thinking with picks 1, 2 and 4!

Oh, I thought about Jesus. I also thought about putting him in as Mythology/Folklore and creator as Anonymous, just to piss off the Bible thumper crowd.

But in the end, Jesus doesn't have all the cool toys Batman has.

[wade moore]

Yes I did, I didnt read the rule that said to post creator

Well, I meant that larry slid in the "creator can't be used in that category by anyone" bit fwiw. I could be wrong though.

[hoopsguy]

I just wasn't going to do someone like Jesus - it comes up in every one of these drafts and is always polarizing.

I'll provide longer bios/rationale stuff around picks when I'm home tonight.

[Danny]

I just wasn't going to do someone like Jesus - it comes up in every one of these drafts and is always polarizing.

I'll provide longer bios/rationale stuff around picks when I'm home tonight.

I'm sure it will be polarizing in the voting, but I plan to send some mass emails to local church groups with this site and voting instructions when it is time for that.

[larrymcg421]

The creator limitation for drafter and category was in there from the beginning. I wanted to have some strategic limitations, but didn't want to completely cancel out too many people, so I decided against a creator being eliminated for the entire draft.

However, the creators are not limited by the subcategories. So for example Seigel is now eliminated for Protector, but not for 20th Century.

[Logan]

I can never participate in these drafts because I'm not even smart enough to understand the rules.

[Danny]

I wish Izulde was playing too. He always has a unique way of picking that makes things interesting.

[wade moore]

The creator limitation for drafter and category was in there from the beginning. I wanted to have some strategic limitations, but didn't want to completely cancel out too many people, so I decided against a creator being eliminated for the entire draft.

However, the creators are not limited by the subcategories. So for example Seigel is now eliminated for Protector, but not for 20th Century.

I think it's a good rule fwiw, I just didn't notice it before (the 2nd part of it).

[wade moore]

Danny - did you PM Grover?

[Grover]

Danny - did you PM Grover?

I picked. ntn has been PM'd Post #30

[wade moore]

duh, sorry Grover.

[Grover]

duh, sorry Grover.

s'all good(man)

[ntndeacon]

1.5 Merlin Magic, Pre- 19th Century Creator(Geoffry of Monmouth)

[The Jackal]

1.6 - The One Above All, Leader, Comic Book (Writer - Steve Englehart, Artist - Gene Colan)

[Danny]

Never heard of him Jackal

[wade moore]

1.7 - James Bond, Arch Nemesis, 10th Century (Ian Fleming)

[Grover]

Never heard of him Jackal

I had to google.

[Danny]

I love the pick of Bond, but not for that category at all

[Danny]

He is always facing different villians and Gadgets or Investigator would have worked much better

[hoopsguy]

One Above All - I read a ton of Marvel comics in 80s/90s and know some of the stuff I saw in the Wikipedia entry, but I didn't recognize the name. I think this might be a tough one to sell to the voters, relative to other picks that could have been had in that spot.

[The Jackal]

It was a risk, I know. I'm going to have fun discussing the reasoning though.

[The Jackal]

I figure there are going to be a lot of comic book characters picked in this, especially Marvel. So, having the most powerful entity and creator of the Marvel Universe sounded good to me.

[Chief Rum]

James Bond, Arch Nemesis? I don't get.

[larrymcg421]

I'll update the 2nd and 3rd posts with picks once I get home. We're making good progress.

[oykib]

1.8 - Son Goku, Scrapper, Animated (Akira Toriyama/Bandai)

[oykib]

2.1 Sherlock Holmes, Investigator, 19th century (Sir Arthur Conan Doyle)

[ntndeacon]

I like the Sherlock Pick. I was hoping he would make it back to me.

[Grover]

I like the Sherlock Pick. I was hoping he would make it back to me.

Same.

[wade moore]

2.2 Satan, Leader, Pre-19th Century (John Milton)

This is specifically Satan as portrayed in Milton's Paradise Lost.

[Danny]

Is that Goku from dragonball?

[The Jackal]

2.3 - Silver Surfer, Sidekick, 20th Century (Jack Kirby)

[hoopsguy]

Add me to the list that was hoping to get Holmes at some point - thought he was the easiest one to think of for that time period.

[Subby]

Jesus FTW!

[oykib]

Is that Goku from dragonball?

Indeed it is.

[oykib]

2.3 - Silver Surfer, Sidekick, 20th Century (Jack Kirby)

That one's good. He is, technically, a sidekick.

[ntndeacon]

2.4 Robin Hood, Protector, Film (Michael Curtiz, Errol Flynn)

[Grover]

2.5 The Man With No Name, Scrapper, Film (Sergio Leone)

[Suburban Rhythm]

1.3 Jesus of Nazareth, Leader, Pre 19th century (Real)

Jesus going 3rd made me think of this bit Gene Collier, of the Pittsburgh PG, does about an early 80s NFL draft.


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[Danny]

Finishing my workout will look and pick once im done, sorry for holdup

[Danny]

2.6 Indiana Jones, Investigator, Film (Lucas)

[Danny]

Cant believe my other option for my first pick was still around

[The Jackal]

I shoulda done some prepwork this weekend.

[ntndeacon]

I have no idea what I am going to find for 21st century.

[Danny]

I have no idea what I am going to find for 21st century.

Take Enrique Iglesias

He can be your hero baby!
He can kiss away the pain!
He would stand by you forever!
You can take his breath away.

[Coffee Warlord]

There's always 1 person who uses their first rounder on something/someone entirely wacko and out there.

[hoopsguy]

2.7 - Lara Croft, Investigator, Female (Toby Gard/Eidos)

I think this is going to be a challenging category, so I wanted to get this one out of the way early.

[Danny]

You took the female version of Indiana Jones, copy cat

[hoopsguy]

And now we wait for Chief or larry (assuming list).

My earlier list to larry still has one name on it - I'll work on updating it in the event that we might get back around to me when I'm on the way home from work.

[larrymcg421]

Just to clarify due to a question I received. Creators can be used multiples times in the draft, just not by the same person or in the same main category.

For example, Sergio Leone can no longer be used in Scrapper but he can be used in any other category.

Edit to add further clarification: The secondary categories (film, tv, 20th, 19th, etc) do not have the same limitation.

[Chief Rum]

My picks...

2.8 Gandalf-- Magic, Literary (JRR Tolkien)

3.1 Achilles-- Muscle, Pre-19th Century (Homer)

[Chief Rum]

hoops is up

[hoopsguy]

I suppose I can post it now that I've hashed out rules questions with Larry

3.2 - Chewbacca/Sidekick/Film (Lucas)

[Danny]

3.3 Harry Potter, Magic, Literary (Rowlins)

[The Jackal]

I think you lose because you picked Harry Potter over Dumbledore.

[The Jackal]

There's always 1 person who uses their first rounder on something/someone entirely wacko and out there.

It's like, a celestial being, man.

[Grover]

3.4 Tintin, Investigator, Comic Book (Hergé)

[Danny]

I think you lose because you picked Harry Potter over Dumbledore.

Coming from someone who picked someone no has ever heard of, I am confident I made the the right choice there ;)

[oykib]

1.1 Batman --Science/Gadgets, Comic Book (Bob Kane--artist, Bill Finger--writer*uncredited)

Fixed

There's a semi-interesting story (http://www.comicscube.com/2010/07/reclaiming-history-bill-finger-real.html) about why Kane is credited with the creation of Batman even though Finger is just as responsible for the character we're all aware of.

[The Jackal]

Coming from someone who picked someone no has ever heard of, I am confident I made the the right choice there ;)

In retrospect, despite the urge to pick someone cool and unexpected, I probably should have waited on that one. The draft is made in the later picks anyways.

[Danny]

There are two other people I really want, hopefully they make it back around

[hoopsguy]

There are two other people I really want, hopefully they make it back around

Smaller draft, in terms of participants, than several I've seen before. I guess I like your chances, based on what I've seen with picks so far.

[The Jackal]

Headed home from work, will be back in 45 mins - an hour.

[larrymcg421]

No picks from ntndeacon, but no worries. Middle of 3rd round on the first day is pretty damn good.

[Chief Rum]

Hi

[hoopsguy]

1.7 - James Bond, Arch Nemesis, 10th Century (Ian Fleming)

All the focus on the Arch Nemesis category has distracted from Bond being over 1,000 years old :)

I was all set to make a joke about his "double O" mission around the Battle of Hastings before realizing that was 11th century.

[ntndeacon]

3.5 Wonder Woman ,Muscle,Female Creator(William Marston)

[The Jackal]

3.6 - Hercules, Muscle, Mythology/Folkore (Unknown)

[larrymcg421]

3.6 - Hercules, Muscle, Mythology/Folkore (Roman Mythology?)

The creator here would be unknown and no other unknown picks may be made in the Muscle category.

[oykib]

Add me to the list that was hoping to get Holmes at some point - thought he was the easiest one to think of for that time period.

The two guys I picked were at the top of my board. I think Holmes is the Jerry Rice of this draft. He's far and away the #1 Investigator in my mind. He also takes care of a really rough time period. It's probably not the premier category. But I'm happy to clear it out in the second round.

[hoopsguy]

So what are odds that wade has a list submitted for night-time hours?

[hoopsguy]

The two guys I picked were at the top of my board. I think Holmes is the Jerry Rice of this draft. He's far and away the #1 Investigator in my mind. He also takes care of a really rough time period. It's probably not the premier category. But I'm happy to clear it out in the second round.

I had to Google your other pick, but once I saw it I said, "oh, the Dragonball guy" and it made sense ... or at least relative to the other 1st round pick I had to Google.

I think both of us have made picks so far on categories that we thought were top-heavy. But I've definitely shifted my feelings on the depth of a couple of categories this evening as I actually sat down and put some work into compiling more detailed lists/classifications rather than just the free-form association I did when seeing I had pick 1.2 this morning.

[The Jackal]

The creator here would be unknown and no other unknown picks may be made in the Muscle category.

Cool, edited.

[Danny]

I had to Google your other pick, but once I saw it I said, "oh, the Dragonball guy" and it made sense ... or at least relative to the other 1st round pick I had to Google.

I think both of us have made picks so far on categories that we thought were top-heavy. But I've definitely shifted my feelings on the depth of a couple of categories this evening as I actually sat down and put some work into compiling more detailed lists/classifications rather than just the free-form association I did when seeing I had pick 1.2 this morning.

Im still winging it. We'll see if I end up with some bad spots

[oykib]

I had to Google your other pick, but once I saw it I said, "oh, the Dragonball guy" and it made sense ... or at least relative to the other 1st round pick I had to Google.

I think both of us have made picks so far on categories that we thought were top-heavy. But I've definitely shifted my feelings on the depth of a couple of categories this evening as I actually sat down and put some work into compiling more detailed lists/classifications rather than just the free-form association I did when seeing I had pick 1.2 this morning.

I think getting Superman with #2 was about the best pick you could've made. When I realized I had #8, I knew I wouldn't be getting him.

[hoopsguy]

Right, there was no way I wasn't ending up with Superman/Batman to start the draft - just depended on where CR went. But after that it was time to start thinking about categories more than stuff like my personal favorite (as in, semi-obscure and underrated) comic book characters.

Anyway, I've watched enough of these in the past to have ideas about what I wanted to do but it is fun/different to actually be making the picks and worrying about the "Shia LaBeouf" moment.

[oykib]

Right, there was no way I wasn't ending up with Superman/Batman to start the draft - just depended on where CR went. But after that it was time to start thinking about categories more than stuff like my personal favorite (as in, semi-obscure and underrated) comic book characters.

Anyway, I've watched enough of these in the past to have ideas about what I wanted to do but it is fun/different to actually be making the picks and worrying about the "Shia LaBeouf" moment.

I don't know the Shia reference. What draft is it from?

[hoopsguy]

FOFC Sex Symbol Draft - picks thread - Front Office Football Central (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=65462) - 2nd post, PurdueBrad delivering what I consider the biggest "WTF!?!?!?!?!?" moment for me in one of these drafts.

[Danny]

I think he got him mixed up with Brad Pitt.

[larrymcg421]

Poor Marilyn Monroe. One of the most obvious 1.1 picks in any draft and she loses out to Shia Labeouf. Maybe PurdueBrad = Cam Cameron and Shia was a close family friend.

[oykib]

Ouch!

[Radii]

FOFC Sex Symbol Draft - picks thread - Front Office Football Central (http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/showthread.php?t=65462) - 2nd post, PurdueBrad delivering what I consider the biggest "WTF!?!?!?!?!?" moment for me in one of these drafts.

I enjoyed that draft immensely. Re-reading over the first few rounds is hilarious.

[Grover]

I am just glad my strange 2nd and 3rd round picks haven't been criticized yet.

[wade moore]

3.7 - The Death Star, Base/Hideout, Film (George Lucas)

[The Jackal]

Ohh, I like that pick.

[hoopsguy]

3.7 - The Death Star, Base/Hideout, Film (George Lucas)

Good pick, was wondering when we might see the top choices in this category come off the board.

[hoopsguy]

Actually, thinking further on the Death Star one ... not really a lot of heroes holing up in that particular base.

[The Jackal]

Actually, thinking further on the Death Star one ... not really a lot of heroes holing up in that particular base.

That's because heroes are smart and would cover minor defective aesthetic abnormalities on the outside of your massive space station.

[Coffee Warlord]

I am just glad my strange 2nd and 3rd round picks haven't been criticized yet.

Thanks for the heads up. :)

...Yeah...WTF?

[hoopsguy]

Hoping oykib shows soon, or that he submitted a list to larry ...
But if he had sent a list I expect larry would have updated it an hour ago.

[oykib]

I'm here. I'm on the West Coast. So I just got up.

[oykib]

3.8 The Doctor, Science/Gadgets, Television (Sydney Newman, C. E. Webber
and Donald Wilson/BBC)

[Coffee Warlord]

I was waiting for that pick to show up. Very nice.

[oykib]

4.1 The Mighty Thor, Protector, 20th Century (Stan Lee, Larry Lieber and Jack Kirby, Based on the mythological character)

[Grover]

Thanks for the heads up. :)

...Yeah...WTF?

Thinking outside of the box ;)

[oykib]

I was waiting for that pick to show up. Very nice.

I had him locked in as my number three pretty early. I think Science/Gadgets is a category like RB. There are different #1s depending on viewpoint. But another one of my possible #1s for this category was cleared fairly early. I wanted to make sure to pick him up.

[The Jackal]

4.1 The Mighty Thor, Protector, 20th Century (Stan Lee, Larry Lieber and Jack Kirby, Based on the mythological character)

Can you use these guys since Spiderman/Stan Lee was already used in Protector?

[wade moore]

4.2 Al Capone, Firepower, 19th Century ([insert deity of choice here])

This was a last minute change from a different choice in the same category I had mapped out. I felt like this was the most likely on my grid to be "knocked out", so even though he'd be available later, I was worried about real being blocked in this category.

[oykib]

Can you use these guys since Spiderman/Stan Lee was already used in Protector?

Different category. Each creator can be used once per category and contestant.

[wade moore]

4.1 The Mighty Thor, Protector, 20th Century (Stan Lee, Larry Lieber and Jack Kirby, Based on the mythological character)

Can you use these guys since Spiderman/Stan Lee was already used in Protector?

I was wondering about that. Stan Lee likes to stamp his name on everything at Marvel. My gut tells me it shouldn't be allowed, but I'll defer to larry.

[wade moore]

Different category. Each creator can be used once per category and contestant.
Spidey was taken as Protector. Same category as you've used for Thor.

[lordscarlet]

Different category. Each creator can be used once per category and contestant.

Just to clarify due to a question I received. Creators can be used multiples times in the draft, just not by the same person or in the same main category.

For example, Sergio Leone can no longer be used in Scrapper but he can be used in any other category.

Edit to add further clarification: The secondary categories (film, tv, 20th, 19th, etc) do not have the same limitation.

see above

[The Jackal]

4.3 - Leonardo da Vinci, Science/Gadgets, Pre-19th Century (Real)

[larrymcg421]

You can still pick Thor, but you can't pick him in Protector.

[wade moore]

Then I'll switch him out.

4.1 The Hulk, Muscle, 20th Century (Stan Lee and Jack Kirby)

:thumbsup:

[Coffee Warlord]

I had him locked in as my number three pretty early. I think Science/Gadgets is a category like RB. There are different #1s depending on viewpoint. But another one of my possible #1s for this category was cleared fairly early. I wanted to make sure to pick him up.

While I'm not a fan of your Goku pick as a first rounder, your next 3 picks have been absolutely stellar.

[oykib]

Spidey was taken as Protector. Same category as you've used for Thor.

Then I'll switch him out.

4.1 The Hulk, Muscle, 20th Century (Stan Lee and Jack Kirby)

I'm assuming the overlap rule only applies in the first category. If it's the second category too, I couldn't have used either of these guys.

[larrymcg421]

Surprised Hulk lasted that long.

[larrymcg421]

Then I'll switch him out.

4.1 The Hulk, Muscle, 20th Century (Stan Lee and Jack Kirby)

I'm assuming the overlap rule only applies in the first category. If it's the second category too, I couldn't have used either of these guys.

Yes, the rule only applies for the main category, so you are fine.

[ntndeacon]

Sorry, I did not realize it was me that was up.

Pick will be in a second

[The Jackal]

Surprised Hulk lasted that long.

I was thinking about him with Hercules, but I didn't want to be too comic book heavy.

[The Jackal]

Sorry forgot to PM you NTN, got caught up at work.

[ntndeacon]

4.4 The TARDIS , Base/hideout, TV (Sydney Newman, C.E. Webber, Donald Wilson)

[Grover]

4.5 Count Dracula, Arch-Nemesis, 19th Century (Bram Stoker)

[Grover]

Meant to make that 19th Century, oops.

[larrymcg421]

Meant to make that 19th Century, oops.

You can change it, since no one else has picked yet.

[Danny]

4.6 Ellen Ripley, firepower, female

[hoopsguy]

4.7 - Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Scrapper, TV (Joss Whedon)

[Danny]

damn it, that was my other pick

[Danny]

i even had buffy typed out

[larrymcg421]

Buffy was one of the characters I was thinking of when I decided a Scrapper category would be necessary.

[The Jackal]

I like this run of picks. I was considering Dracula and Ripley as well.

[ntndeacon]

I had not thought of Buffy, but I figured Ripley would get gotten at some point.

[Chief Rum]

Can someone give me a bit of an explanation as to just what a Scrapper is?

[Grover]

Can someone give me a bit of an explanation as to just what a Scrapper is?

All-Around type of fighter, I would think. Someone who's resourceful.

[larrymcg421]

Can someone give me a bit of an explanation as to just what a Scrapper is?

Brawler/martial arts/hand to hand/short range weapon combat. Primarily not a ranged fighter.

[Grover]

Brawler/martial arts/hand to hand combat. Primarily not a ranged fighter.

This makes my scrapper pick look terrible, haha.

[wade moore]

I took it more to mean.. "resourceful". Not so much a straight-up fighter, trained, etc - but finds ways to make stuff happen. Wins fights you wouldn't necessarily expect, etc.

Maybe "unconventional" would be another good word.

[Danny]

Why hasnt Chief picked yet, I have my next pick ready

[hoopsguy]

Hmm, was out for 90 minutes and fully expected to have larry process my next pick as a result. We need to be providing larry more lists :)

[Coffee Warlord]

I took it more to mean.. "resourceful". Not so much a straight-up fighter, trained, etc - but finds ways to make stuff happen. Wins fights you wouldn't necessarily expect, etc.

Maybe "unconventional" would be another good word.

Yeah, this is more of a fitting definition in my mind.

Think this may be one of the categories that people will have to defend with their own personal opinion of scrapper.

[Chief Rum]

Actually I got thrown by Danny not posting a number and then commenting on the Buffy pick by hoops. It made me think Danny's pick was still coming, and it wasn't me that was up. Sorry about that, everyone. I'll pick now.

And blame Danny.

[Danny]

Awww, I guess our love affair is over :(

[lordscarlet]

Actually I got thrown by Danny not posting a number and then commenting on the Buffy pick by hoops. It made me think Danny's pick was still coming, and it wasn't me that was up. Sorry about that, everyone. I'll pick now.

And blame Danny.

Good defensive maneuver. ;)

[Chief Rum]

4.8 Dr. Manhattan-- Firepower, 20th Century (Alan Moore writer, Dave Gibbons artist, colorist John Higgins)

[Chief Rum]

Awww, I guess our love affair is over :(

Even lovers quarrel sometimes. :D

[Chief Rum]

5.1 Capt. James Tiberius Kirk, Leader, TV (Gene Roddenberry)

[Chief Rum]

All right, hoops, you're up!

[hoopsguy]

5.1 Capt. James Tiberius Kirk, Leader, TV (Gene Roddenberry)

Nice pick, didn't think of this one at all.

[Danny]

Man this 19th century thing is going to suck

[Grover]

Man this 19th century thing is going to suck

That's why I went for Dracula early.

[Chief Rum]

Nice pick, didn't think of this one at all.

Gracias. :)

[hoopsguy]

5.2 Guinevere, Love Interest, Pre-19th Century (Chretien de Troyes)

[hoopsguy]

Man this 19th century thing is going to suck

Yep, I also wanted to address this one (relatively) early rather than late. Getting shoe-horned into categories at the end on 19th century did not sound ideal.

[Danny]

5.3 Rocky Balboa, Scrapper, 20th century (sly Stallone)

[larrymcg421]

I'm fine with that definition of scrapper, especially since anyone under my definition would likely fall into that as well. As always, it will up to you to make your case to the voters.

[wade moore]

5.3 Rocky Balboa, Scrapper, 20th century
fwiw, for what's in my mind, this is a dictionary definition of scrapper.

[Logan]

5.3 Rocky Balboa, Scrapper, 20th century

Great pick, but no Sly Stallone creator credit?

[Danny]

Great pick, but no Sly Stallone creator credit?

Thanks, I've been forgetting to put in the creator.

[larrymcg421]

Grover selects:

5.4 Helen of Troy, Love Interest, Pre-19th Century (Homer)

[Danny]

Thats a good one for that category

[ntndeacon]

5.5 Zeus Leader, Mythology/Folklore (Unknown)

[Danny]

Arch nemesis is supposed be a the nemesis of a hero right? Like the dracula pick? I would think so, but the Bond pick throws me off.

[larrymcg421]

Arch nemesis is supposed be a the nemesis of a hero right? Like the dracula pick? I would think so, but the Bond pick throws me off.

Yes, the arch nemesis pick is the main person your team will be fighting.

[The Jackal]

5.6 - Tyler Durden, Scrapper, Literary (Chuck Palahniuk)

[Grover]

Nice picks on the last few Scrappers.

Happy I got Helen in for Love Interest

[larrymcg421]

Updated the round by round selections. Will update the category selections tonight.

[wade moore]

5.7 - Raistlin Majere, Magic, Literary (Margaret Weiss and Tracy Hickman)


I'm headed out of work, so if oykib posts right away, I can pick when I get home.

[Danny]

So is Wade going with a team of villians against his lone Bond hero? It sure looks like it

[Chief Rum]

Grover selects:

5.4 Helen of Troy, Love Interest, Pre-19th Century (Homer)

I selected Homer for Pre-19th century. I think you're going to either have to find a different creator for Helen or select another source category besides Pre-19th.

[Chief Rum]

My pick was Achilles

[Danny]

Creator only goes for the main category though doesnt it, so love interest in that case?

[oykib]

5.8 Sun Tzu, Leader, pre-19th Century (Real)

[Danny]

Chief, so is your arch nemesis going to be arrow?

[Chief Rum]

Creator only goes for the main category though doesnt it, so love interest in that case?

Ahh okay, then he's fine. I am confusing my categories.

[Grover]

Creator only goes for the main category though doesnt it, so love interest in that case?

Yeah, I feel like larry would've gone down a peg on my list if it didn't fit the parameters

[Chief Rum]

Chief, so is your arch nemesis going to be arrow?

Why would I want to fight the one thing that can kill my Muscle, lol? ;)

[ntndeacon]

I don't know if I am understanding the rules right, but if all myth picks are unknown, we might have to have one myth per category.

[The Jackal]

This may have already been answered but I don't have time at work to go digging back - I know only one real creator can be used per category, but can one person use two reals on their team in different categories, or are we limited to one real creator?

[oykib]

6.1 Kratos, Scrapper, 21st century (Sony Computer Entertainment)

I'll switch Goku to Protector. His versatility is why I drafted him so high in the first place.

[ntndeacon]

This may have already been answered but I don't have time at work to go digging back - I know only one real creator can be used per category, but can one person use two reals on their team in different categories, or are we limited to one real creator?

I think you can only use one real as a creator

[The Jackal]

I think you can only use one real as a creator

Yeah that makes sense. Like you couldn't use Stan Lee twice, so you can't use Real twice. Cool, got it.

[The Jackal]

Nevermind my PM then, Larry.

[Danny]

6.1 Kratos, Scrapper, 21st century (Sony Computer Entertainment)

I'll switch Goku to Protector. His versatility is why I drafted him so high in the first place.

I dont think we should be able to switch mid draft because other peoples picks could be impacted.

[Danny]

In fact, I feel pretty strongly about that. As an example, if someone switched say Hulk from Muscle to something so he could pick another stan lee in muscle because no one else was allowed ot pick anyone there the whole draft. It just doesnt work to swap your categories unless it was right after.

[Danny]

ie before other picks are made.

[The Jackal]

5.8 Sun Tzu, Leader, pre-19th Century (Real)

fyi this doesn't work, jesus was used for real in leader

[The Jackal]

In fact, I feel pretty strongly about that. As an example, if someone switched say Hulk from Muscle to something so he could pick another stan lee in muscle because no one else was allowed ot pick anyone there the whole draft. It just doesnt work to swap your categories unless it was right after.

I agree with this as well

[Logan]

Only an observer but AFAIK, switches have always only been allowed if it was before another pick was made.

[Danny]

Yeah, so you have to switch both your picks oykib.

[The Jackal]

I forget, do we have to use a female in a category other than love interest?

[oykib]

I dont think we should be able to switch mid draft because other peoples picks could be impacted.

That's not how most drafts have worked. I mean you can draft a corner and change him to a safety. But I'll wait for the decision.

[larrymcg421]

5.8 Sun Tzu, Leader, pre-19th Century (Real)

This needs to be changed asw e already have a real Leader.

[hoopsguy]

As someone who has read along, I've seen the moderators be pretty flexible on allowing a change in category in the case of Sun Tzu (oops, invalid pick for category due to previous pick blocking it) but not so much 4 rounds later to give more flexibility in later picks.

I'm fine with whatever larry wants to enforce, but I figured I would chime in on the topic since I'm around.

[oykib]

Okay I'll get rid of those two then.

[oykib]

Give me a minute to check my list for the next one.

[larrymcg421]

A category cannot be changed once other picks have been made. It wouldn't be fair to allow that since people that drafted after you were blocked from picking that creator in the original category and they may have drafted different accordingly.

[lordscarlet]

That's not how most drafts have worked. I mean you can draft a corner and change him to a safety. But I'll wait for the decision.

As someone who has read along, I've seen the moderators be pretty flexible on allowing a change in category in the case of Sun Tzu (oops, invalid pick for category due to previous pick blocking it) but not so much 4 rounds later to give more flexibility in later picks.

I'm fine with whatever larry wants to enforce, but I figured I would chime in on the topic since I'm around.

Agreed. Moderators are flexible on switching things if they violate the rules, I guess. But overall, no, you can't just go switching. Especially based on what Danny said, you have blocked someone for a couple dozen picks and now suddenly that spot is free and someone may have selected differently because of it.

[lordscarlet]

dola: this is not like a sports draft. In a sports draft, another team can select a corner from Alabama even if you select a corner from Alabama. That is not the case here.

[larrymcg421]

From the original thread:

With the original rule, I felt that everyone would simply use their female pick for Love Interest. When I changed it from Female to Female Hero, I realized people would just pick a powerful female hero in the Love Interest category, going against the intent of that category which was meant to include characters whose main function was as a love interest.

So what I'm going to do is just stipulate that the Love Interest category will not be a fighting member of the super team, so if you pick a powerful character in that category, it will be a waste and voters should count that against you. I'll also change Female Hero back to Female, just in case someone wants to use their Female pick on an Arch Nemesis.

So yes, the female subcategory should be a hero or Arch Villain.

[hoopsguy]

With three females in my first five picks it is obvious that I'm trying to squeeze everyone else on this category.

[wade moore]

From the original thread:



So yes, the female subcategory should be a hero or Arch Villain.

You're contradicting yourself it seems?

My reading of your statement above was that we could use a female as love interest, they just wouldn't be a "fighter".

Is that wrong?

[hoopsguy]

Date - Capone = 19th century? I understand date of birth is 19th century, but there was no notoriety until the 20th century.

I just want to make sure I understand the logic here for when I'm making picks in that category.

[hoopsguy]

Dola - rules suggest creation date, but does that still apply for "Real" in terms of date of birth? That is the gist of the question.

[larrymcg421]

Yes, for a real person we are using their date of birth.

[oykib]

5.8 Kratos, Arch Nemesis, 21st Century (Sony Computer Entertainment)

6.1 Supergirl, Sidekick, Female (Otto Binder and Al Pastino)

I sent a PM to Larry to check these. He hasn't gotten back to me. So I assume that they're okay.

[wade moore]

6.2 Ben Linus, Protector, TV (Jeffrey Lieber, J. J. Abrams, Damon Lindelof)

[larrymcg421]

You're contradicting yourself it seems?

My reading of your statement above was that we could use a female as love interest, they just wouldn't be a "fighter".

Is that wrong?

My explanation was more convoluted than necessary. What I meant was when I renamed the category to "Female Hero", I thought people would take advantage by picking say Wonder Woman as Love Interest, going against the intent. So to counteract that I stated that the female would not be a fighting member of the team. As I said in the convoluted statement, I changed female hero back to female only so you could pick an archvillain in that category. I should've just said that "love interest, female" was not a valid combo, but then I was worried that people would think you couldn't pick a female love interest. Everyone should pick one female outside of the love interest category.. Sorry this got so complicated and hope it doesn't screw anyone up.

[larrymcg421]

5.8 Kratos, Arch Nemesis, 21st Century (Sony Computer Entertainment)

6.1 Supergirl, Sidekick, Female (Otto Binder and Al Pastino)

I sent a PM to Larry to check these. He hasn't gotten back to me. So I assume that they're okay.

Sorry I was replying but my laptop died. I would make the creator for Kratos David Jaffe, Shannon Studstill, and Dave Matthews. Both picks are fine.

[The Jackal]

6.3 - Brock Samson, Protector, 21st Century (Jackson Publick and Doc Hammer)

[Grover]

6.3 - Brock Samson, Protector, 21st Century (Jackson Publick and Doc Hammer)

Damn you!

[oykib]

6.3 - Brock Samson, Protector, 21st Century (Jackson Publick and Doc Hammer)

"But see, that’s what I’m talking about! Now Venture’ll send Samson after the rest of us, and he’ll go totally sickhouse on our asses. I LIKE my ass, gentlemen."

One of my favorite Venture Bros. quotes...

[ntndeacon]

6.4 Professor James Moriarty Arch nemesis, 19th century (Sir Arthur Conan Doyle)

[Grover]

6.5 He-Man, Muscle, Animation (Mattel)

[Danny]

6.6 Beowulf, Protector, Mythology/Folklore, unknown

[The Jackal]

Good pick Danny, I almost picked Beowulf in the first round

[Danny]

Thanks, so far I am very happy with my draft, but I have a feeling that as we get later I am going to have to start taking some people I may not really want to.

[Danny]

Really hoping my guy is still around with my next pick

[hoopsguy]

6.4 Professor James Moriarty Arch nemesis, 19th century (Sir Arthur Conan Doyle)

Hmm, had been hoping this might come back around.

[hoopsguy]

6.7 - Wyatt Earp - firepower, 19th century (real)

[Danny]

Wyatt Earp vs. Ellen Ripley. Hmmm, wonder who will win that one ;)

[hoopsguy]

Wyatt Earp vs. Ellen Ripley. Hmmm, wonder who will win that one ;)

Ripley, but you have to take into account that Earp is 170 years old :)

Earp is his prime was the top gun in the Wild West. Ripley was carried through a couple of movies by a good supporting cast.

[larrymcg421]

Clarification on the female issue due to an inquiry I received:

You may use the Love Interest, Female combo as long as you draft a female somewhere else.

The simplest way to put the rule: You should have at least one female outside of the Love Interest category.

[wade moore]

Did anyone PM Chief Rum? Surprised to see him not pick last night with him being a west coaster.

[wade moore]

So is Wade going with a team of villians against his lone Bond hero? It sure looks like it

:banana:

[ntndeacon]

Hmm, had been hoping this might come back around.

I had been trying to decide when would be the right time to grab him. I am glad I got him before it was too late.

[hoopsguy]

Did anyone PM Chief Rum? Surprised to see him not pick last night with him being a west coaster.

I dropped the ball on this after my pick. Sorry about that. Not sure if it would have made a difference but I wish I had.

[Danny]

I dropped the ball on this after my pick. Sorry about that. Not sure if it would have made a difference but I wish I had.

No surprise here :D